PRIMARCH TIER LIST | Warhammer 40k Lore

[@Adeptusridiculous]

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[@AdMechTechSupport]

Bruh, I literally bought me some Raycons yesterday. Why must the discount appear when I don’t need it no more?! 😭

[@yuu1584]

Not for international customers I suppose? Just tried your link and I'd have to pay shipping AND also it's not a 20% discount, but 15% ?!

[@Epsilonn-bz6ue]

I've been meaning to try out Zoids but never got around to it.

[@MrAwesome1105]

Russ would be command wolf not liger. Good reference though you're not alone DK😂

[@shawnorr8819]

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[@MrSamulai]

Everywhere in Nostramo, 10 000 Years ago: "Hi guys, it's ya boi Kurze today we're doing an unboxing on this here jaywalker."

[@lukecarter9543]

That’s really damn good

[@Irmarinen]

Definetly canon event. I mean, he did Livestream his murders to the whole populace to maintain control through fear.

[@KIA130123]

I read that in the voice used for Cypher in the "If the Emperor had a TTS device".

[@dr.stronk9857]

Arts and crafts with Kurze

[@GenuinelyHorriblePerson]

I'd join his patreon for a "how to crucify rats" video.

[@thatbirdhasaknife]

DK forgets Curze canonically livestreamed his "justice" to the entire population. So he has experience

[@buttermoth8669]

“Heya guys it’s Konrad your comrade, today we’re gonna pull a prank on this sad lady, she wants to off herself but little does she know, her skin no longer belongs to her”

[@Sogart1]

He would be a great dark web streamer for sure

[@Maxisamo1]

Ah, the Vitaly of Warhammer

[@angry_zergling]

Oh God. Kurze was a youtuber. T_T

[@skarlock5257]

His stream would be the horrific train wreck that you couldn't look away from. All 120 trillion ImperiumTube creators would be making react videos to him on the daily. It would be like Coffeezilla, but he's also the universes most sadistic serial killer at the same time.

[@erike5865]

You accuse Alpharius of view-botting while he's playing geoguessr and the next spot is directly outside your house and he guesses it immediately.

[@burnin8able]

Somehow it's actually a livestream of your house despite geoguessr being old photos

[@nolanbaker2360]

​@@burnin8able of course hes got his own geoguesser stream snipe satellite

[@burnin8able]

@@nolanbaker2360 geoguessr doesn't use satellite images, it uses photos from the google cars as they drove around on the ground. he is in a van outside your house right now.

[@Thecrusader13]

How did NO ONE say the Khan would be the ULTIMATE speed run streamer.

[@Fazbear-po5mm]

He only does 100% no cheat speed runs as he’ll find anything else dishonorable

[@brettmiles8839]

Based

[@tumage8592]

​@@Fazbear-po5mmtheKhanTM is that guy that cracks cheated worldrecords

[@kingoso0]

Also, he killed mortarion, they didn't mention it!!!

[@U1TR4F0RCE]

Well DK also said that there are no religious streams so he is not exactly an expert

[@eduardodiaz9942]

Something tells me Ferrus Manus won't be ahead in this list

[@calmc9655]

That's not very metal dude

[@isaactelesco2141]

Dont lose your head over it ​@@calmc9655

[@gamewatch6861]

@@calmc9655 Oh come on. That joke was head and shoulders above the rest.

[@StephensRambleZone]

@@gamewatch6861 It may need to be ironed out a little more.

[@samhescott348]

He’s definitely off the top

[@dominussharith9016]

“Don’t mansplain murder to me” - the master of murder

[@Dramatic_Gaming]

Big "I know more about this than you do" energy.

[@Boxfortress]

[@brianfarris5676]

@@Dramatic_Gamingyet doesn’t know what murder means

[@jemers22]

Captain genocide at B for murder is a crime though

[@tumage8592]

Nah man Lion is an A at worst and S normally. He destroyed every traitor homeworld and His own. He takes it personal and keeps Professional at the same time

[@YoBen100]

We all know Alpharius Omegon are both top tier and low tier, somehow.

[@JoeyStalley]

Omegon in A tier for Alpharius

[@TheHerrDoctor]

One of them is S tier and the other is in the "I fucking died" tier

[@eduardodiaz9942]

They're all Alpharius, so it makes sense

[@jocosesonata]

Pretty sure Alpharius Omegon is the tierlist itself.

[@cygnusereve4779]

Probably because of integer overflow

[@thewerdna]

Woah there Shy, are you forgetting the time that Guiliman got vented into the vacuum of space and proceeded to run around for hours, without a helmet, punching Word Bearers to death? That alone is worth a C tier on the murder scale

[@trli7117]

I think that falls under warfare rather than murder.

[@robertrichards4718]

Or how about when he was resurrected surrounded by invading Black Legionaires and he just went to work. A murderous, ultraviolent (see what I did there?) rage and stomped em all? How about when he was busy fighting Lorgar and Angron 1 vs. 2 in a murderous rage to claim vengeance for Calth.

[@marcog.verbruggen674]

My take is that Guilliman is capable of *fantastic* quality and quantity of murder but is generally disinterested in murder or at least sees the necessity for using it as a last resort - but the occasions where he has engaged in murder were pretty impressive. Fear the wrath of a quiet man and all that. Putting him in high C - great potential, some notable feats, but overall not an impressive track record compared to his siblings

[@weareharbinger914]

To be fair, she also forgot Vulkan murdering dark eldar as a youth with blacksmith hammers when they attack nocturne.

[@Nempo13]

G-man is known as the primarch with the most rage. Angron is not the angriest primarch. G-man is capable of going full berserker. Which fits...talk to any accountant or logistics man, they are all filled with rage and hoping some idiot will just give them a reason to let loose.

[@Hellacious-Blue-Liquid]

Dorn would have 8 hour borderline silent streams where he designs the most beautiful buildings and machines

[@christopherpaverd6320]

Perty would do this as well but more angry and one upping whatever dorn did last

[@jidk6565]

​@christopherpaverd6320 Crusade Purt would make something completely gorgeous and unique, and an equal to Dorns, maybe a bit more mechanically complex heresy pert would just want to one up Dorn current pert would just be showing you how make a production line more and more efficient in factorio

[@nolanbaker2360]

​@@jidk6565 and how to modify your computer to run your galactic scale factorio

[@philopoemen1806]

I could see him streaming CAD.

[@vhaelen326]

@@christopherpaverd6320 perturabo would make something equally impressive but he'd constantly bicker with the stream and have no views and then when he's finished he just gets angry for 5 minutes and deletes the entire file of the building

[@rasenshuriken7325]

"I punched out one of his hearts, why does no one remember that!" Magnus the Red.

[@shiranp6]

He didn't score the kill. That's points off.

[@Dokari-l9m]

So leman Russ bullying a nerd is somehow a legendary feat?

[@ericross1121]

Strong agree. But I think there are a lot of Furry fans here, so wolf boy good.

[@UTO7]

Not to mention showing up in Fenris and taking out a good portion of the space wolves and a whole company of Grey Knights.

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

​@@Dokari-l9mWell... massively psychically empowered primarily nerd

[@deaconobvious]

Roboute would be the number one charity streamer, but Vulkan would be his guest that brings the $$.

[@jasonirwin4631]

Vulkan would show up with a deal of "for every 10 dollars you donate I will do one rep of 100lbe curls shirtless the biggest donator will get this hand made flamer". He would also not understand why people want him shirtless.

[@Stolanis]

Logistics (hand-shaking emoji) Production

[@dillonharnden-shea57]

@@jasonirwin4631 Haha "shirt...off? Well okay if yall say so but I dont get it.."

[@patg1094]

Khan streams racing games in the downtime while he's waiting for the parts to be delivered after his bike blows up again.

[@shiranp6]

You're crazy if you think Khan is waiting for something, he'd have a bunch of bikes in his garage and he'd just hop on another one and get the parts himself.

[@Shrrrg]

best trackmania streamer

[@Pazuzu4All]

He has a bunch of world records on Mario Kart and is constantly petitioning Sony for another Twisted Metal game.

[@patg1094]

@@shiranp6 Ferrus has to custom make parts for him or Khan sulks because his bike's too slow.

[@anonamarth4291]

10:50 Lion 20:00 Fulgrim 27:25 Perturabo 34:50 Khan 41:35 Russ 50:30 Dorn 59:36 Curze 1:08:00 Sanguinius 1:13:33 Ferrus 1:17:40 Angron 1:24:25 Guilliman 1:29:00 Mortarian 1:33:25 Magnus 1:39:30 Horus 1:46:29 Lorgar 1:54:36 Vulkan 1:59:39 Corax 2:03:50 Alpharius

[@jordanhatchet1231]

Alpharius would absolutely stream Murder mystery games where he can gaslight everyone

[@Fazbear-po5mm]

The best among us player

[@burnin8able]

Simultaneously playing among us and TTT and wins every round of both games

[@vhaelen326]

sooo... disguised toast from a couple of months/years ago...got it

[@ariloulei814]

Also the game listed in the description would be wrong. It would say Fortnite or something as a means of tricking more into watching him.

[@Origachilies]

It is actually amazing how DK manages to forget almost everything he's learned

[@nathanmorin8304]

Amazing and sad

[@shangalangshalala]

A suggestion for Kirioth's vehicle of choice for Konrad Curze: 2 passenger jets

[@vegladex]

I was thinking he should really be an aircraft, "stealth tank" is kind of a dumb take when Stealth Bomber makes so much more sense. I did not think THAT far though, wow 🤣

[@High-LordHarza]

Jesus christ 😂

[@chrisdufresne9359]

Emperor, look! An alien!

[@jojo_sanders5342]

No, a properly built grot bomb.

[@matthewperry9183]

Real life baby head spider from toystory

[@SurferBroses-dl1dw]

Sanguinius is the the epitome of Mordin’s phrase “had to be me, someone else might have gotten it wrong” from Mass Effect

[@StygianSkunk]

I like that Shy was essentially an Ork murder-critic. I think Russ would, as a streamer, launch into stories about something that chat said or something in-game.

[@WredFawks]

54:54 "Hello boy*, today we are going to be playing Factorio." *He only has one regular watcher, and that's Sigismund.

[@jurepec5779]

I imagine Perturabo would also watch every stream if just to throw insults and swears towards Dorn. Also constantly arguing about the optimal strategies and designs.

[@Kameth]

Sanguinius would always be a regular chatter, just to support his brother. Dorn is running so many mods for added realism the San would find it incomprehensible but still be there for the whole stream.

[@skarlock5257]

What if Peturabo was a dramatuber though? Like the primarch version of Keemstar. Hear me out... He's super unlikable and abrasive right? But he's also a tactical and strategic genius. So instead of just being an unlikable, petulant man-child who gets mocked and ridiculed by everyone, he unleashes his petulant, unlikable man-child personality on others and attacks people even more hated than himself, expertly, to get the audience on his side. He is the lord of the siege, so as long as he's attacking and grinding down other ImperialTubers, he'll never lose.

[@WredFawks]

@@skarlock5257 unfortunately he's besties with Magnus "Alex Jones was right all along" the red

[@alvar119]

Wow No Shy, Khan killed and send Deamon Primarch Mortarion to the warp, during the siege on Terra(with no magic sword or sheild).

[@Rage_Templar]

and he's reason Orcs used red as speed. (IIRC)

[@vortex594]

I'm like 90% sure the Khan's sword was in fact magic, at least if you count force swords as being magic.

[@13emstr]

@@Rage_Templar That sound like something from 1d4chan.

[@Ransom980]

Siege of Terra Spoiler Technically it killed him, but Dad said death is cringe.

[@VallornDeathblade]

@@Ransom980 "You rest when I say you can! Get up son!" ~ emps

[@rycolligan]

Vulkan would be like if Bob Ross were a V-Tuber but worked his forge rather than painting.

[@potentiallyaheretic9281]

That sounds like the best thing ever.

[@KillerOrca]

Those totally exist

[@Titleknown]

So basically a more firey version of The Crafsman then?

[@roguevector1268]

There's a new zealand-based streamer that streams doing traditional maori carving and tried to give back sub money because he just wanted to do things for fun.

[@S_047]

​@@roguevector1268broxh_ is such a wholesome dude

[@Beandealer]

Finally a list on which primarcs are on top or the bottom

[@Lazare7782]

💀

[@scandor8599]

I feel that there needs to be "Don't Mansplain Murder To Me" merch

[@brokedude9999]

Yes Agreed Send It!!!!!

[@brettmiles8839]

Based

[@coolguy10060]

Yess

[@IapitusMcHeimer]

Super based

[@TheVerruckMan]

Lion deserves to be in A rank for Shy's Murder Ranking, for no other reason than because he DID in fact nuke Ultramar, he just did it behind Sanguinius and Guilliman's backs. It's the whole reason why he got kicked out of the Imperium Secundus.

[@robertrichards4718]

Then had Guilliman call him a punk, and broke his precious sword.

[@jmit126]

1:26:33 I want to offer a counterpoint to this. Guilliman is absolutely the type of guy who would spend a month meticulously researching other streamers to see what things appeal to their audiences, perform rigorous SEO and timeslot analysis to get maximum eyes on him, and keep a finger firmly on the pulse of the trends and how to exploit them, so that he'd have maximum viewer engagement for minimum effort and inexplicable success for folks who don't pay as much attention. And then he'd sell a book on how to make it big as a streamer.

[@Ashtor1337]

Guiliman would be to streaming what MatPat is to KZbin. He would figure out the algorithm and do the work.

[@bonogiamboni4830]

"The Codex Virtualis does not support thus action."

[@wesleymiles8756]

Honestly, a tracked, fully-mechanized form of self-propelled trebuchet is so on-par for 40k I an genuinely surprised it hasn’t already been made a thing for guard/chaos armies.

[@AlexWithington]

I mean the orks that use squigs should get one

[@sheilasherret9596]

If they go the route of knights having serfs on the field, they should get that. It would fit their flavour better than the WW era guard. Then both loyalists and chaos could field it

[@wesleymiles8756]

@@AlexWithingtonoh my god yes a giant ork tank that fucking flings attack squigs at enemies i need this so bad. They’d probably call it the “DEFFLOBBA SQUIGWAGON” or something

[@theenderdestruction2362]

​@@wesleymiles8756isn't that already a thing???

[@moschbear]

Fulgrim S+ tier whirlpool streamer

[@SeanHoltzman]

A perfect performer to snake their way through Twitch ToS

[@RougeMephilesClone]

Somehow able to jump from pitch-perfect OnlyFans stream to Jerma's Bugelberry streams in an instant.

[@pjmcmurray5802]

Robute Guilliman is a Razorback. Firepower and more importantly, part of the logistics of getting Marines where they need to be.

[@sentryward8744]

Every other one is a single tank. But Guilliman? He would be an entire squad of b tier tank. A whole squad

[@davisdf3064]

@@sentryward8744 Just an entire squad of MBTs (main battle tanks)

[@Poolzors]

"E is for Eldar Child Burning," my SIDES hurt after that

[@PeterTurbo4Ever]

I'm here for some Perturabo glazing. Iron within

[@carlolazol3209]

Iron withour

[@carlolazol3209]

Iron without

[@TheGallantDrake]

Rust protection within

[@strgunlinr2464]

Rust protection without

[@Rage_Templar]

Steel soul

[@irish-italianintrovert.8600]

Peter also told Nurgle to F off. Unironic GigaChad moment

[@mut9942]

Sanguinius would obviously be a close air support gunship, like the AC130. You know, the Angel of Death.(lol) It packs a mean punch and is protective in nature, as well as being loved by soldiers as their "Savior." It just fits.

[@AlexanderAshcroft]

DK with the amazing. "It was all an act, I'm Actually not that stupid." Convincing absolutely no one. Lets Go!

[@Dramatic_Gaming]

Streamer/Vtuber/KZbinr Primarch ideas: -Lion: Climbs the ladders on every fighting game, can't go pro cuz the shit he says keeps scaring off sponsors -Fulgrim: Literally just Mel, but somehow more problematic. -Perturabo: Crafting streams and city-builders, can't stop arguing with his chat, and not in the fun way. -Khan: IRL biking strams. Has a really successful series of car and motorcycle care videos. -Russ: a weird mix of mukbangs, creative writing, and his amateur wrestling matches. Avater is just Blaidd with an axe. -Dorn: city-builders as well, and is constantly stealing viewers from Perturabo. Also does gunpla streams, but only ever does straight builds. -Curze: Banned on all platforms -Sanguinius: Likes Just Chatting. His avater is definitely not Alucard from Castlevania. His female fans keep trying to get him to make an OF page. -Manus: single-handedly revives the old Man At Arms channel. -Angron: Literally just LowTierGod. -Guilliman: No facecam, no model, no overlay. Does a weekly powerpoint about infrastructure and defense economics. Still somehow does numbers. -Mortarion: eats three day bans like they're candy. Somehow has a large NSFW fanbase, but only the really weird tags. -Magnus: TeiflingMelissa but male. Posts a lot on social media about Wicca and crystals. -Horus: Really populer variety streamer. Fell off hard after he started having some *very* bad takes and kept doubling down. -Lorgar: keeps getting invited to collabs despite having some very problematic takes. Friends and fans keeps saying 'you just don't get him' until that one twitlonger drops. -Vulkan: Runs a wholesome Minecraft Creative server. Moonlights in male ASMR. -Corax: posts a bunch of travel pics of where he's been while using a raven plushie as a stand-in. Also the one who released that that one twitlonger about Lorgar. -Alpha/Omega: Twin avatars, but they keep switching whose playing who. Cannot stick to a schedule to save their lives.

[@sheilasherret9596]

I feel like Guilliman would have 2 audiences. One watches him because they're nerdy about the same things as him. The other audience likes listening to him as a form of sleep aid. He releases an audio only vod for them because he thinks it's endearing.

[@SaviourSword995]

Lorgar is just a 40k version of HasanAbi.

[@KillerOrca]

Dorn's Gunpla are screen accurate even if the kit isn't. He'll pause sections of 0079 to get the exact places the Grandaddy got shot and put damage marks there on his model His replica of the Last Shooting is the best anyone's ever seen

[@SpaceMarine4040]

So guilliman is Perun... that tracks and I watch those powerpoint on defence economics and procurement every week.

[@S_047]

I feel Khan would randomly drop the most sage and life-changing advice and then continue on like he said nothing

[@LordZazas]

47:40 "He can turn into the Liger Zero, which is a wolf" And DK says he's putting on an act of stupid

[@RougeMephilesClone]

Some small part of me felt that name was wrong in the moment, but I brushed past it. I'm glad my scattered Zoids viewings weren't wasted.

[@marcog.verbruggen674]

Pls explain i have no idea what this is

[@nathanmorin8304]

​@@marcog.verbruggen674 It's a Mecha anime with animal type mechs called Zoids

[@nathanmorin8304]

That made me very upset. Calling Liger Zero a wolf and saying it has blades coming out the sides.

[@sangapeiron2300]

For the record, the Khan did have a primarch kill. He killed daemon Mortarion during the siege. He almost died from it, but he got better. And Mortarion got better too, since he’s a daemon. But the Khan still cut his head off and he blew up, so it counts

[@sirkelendor5429]

I cant believe they picked VEIBEI as their example of "demon vtuber" like of all the demon vtubers they picked the one in a sexy schoolgirl outfit

[@PressAtoDefendEarth]

Who else are they gonna pick? Lucy Pyre? Sinder?

[@Dramatic_Gaming]

Layna was *right THERE.*

[@SeanHoltzman]

Numi would have worked well 😂

[@The_Donvar]

It's on brand though

[@Rodion9920]

It was as a joke probably. U know that Shy is a memelord.

[@jamzee_]

Konrad would genuinely be an S teir streamer. He has experience in the field as he streamed his entire murder spree, but thats not what we’re going to talk about. He has experience with population sociology. And much like Charles Manson, people dont like him for his personality, but for his ability to control. And trust me, as one of the people who has friends who fall in love with killers, and myself being into the archetype, konrad would be on my second monitor all night long. Hes got stories, hes got experience in true crime, and hed be a killer during colabs, manipulating the conversation FOR THE WORSE. Every conversation with him would turn gory and about some weird topic, maybe even getting into conspiracy and alien territory.

[@dzasays5516]

Bricky was right to be pissed about DK thinking that Alpharius was the Primarch of the 2nd Legion

[@dominussharith9016]

Conrad Kurze the one whom I am most conflicted. I play Nightlords, I love him. But he shouldn’t be at the top, but I want him to be

[@ZeroGamerAssassin]

I can’t say much since I’m a certified Konrad Curze glazer. Man flat out died to prove a point to his dead dad. Absolute legend

[@matthewperry9183]

Also his tank would be like somthing out of cids room from toystory like real-life baby head spider

[@dr.stronk9857]

I feel like Corax as a Vtuber would stream halo and exclusively kill people by punching them from behind and would be surprisingly good at it. One day inexplicably his model would become super eldritch and he’d spend every stream tracking down whatever lorgar is playing and ruining his day. Anytime Lorgar isn’t online he’d just start doxxing him.

[@vhaelen326]

i was thinking about good oldschool world of warcraft rogue crit compilations with linkin park music...

[@dr.stronk9857]

@@vhaelen326 that too I guess

[@germanmandalorian3514]

"Step Brick! Help me, im stuck in the Wall!"

[@trentgarton639]

This is probably some of the most cursed phrases this podcast has said to date

[@TheCruefan94]

All in all you're just another step brick in the the wall -Pink Floyd probably

[@ananonymousnerd.2179]

note: There ARE Transformers that turn into Lions. To me, that's the obvious choice for Lion El' Johnson.

[@topcat59]

I can definitely see Leman have a wolf form and tank form.🐱

[@noxion4143]

Thanks Shy for your overtime since monday to deliver this gem to us

[@Volvith]

Don't you dare talk shit about Battleship. It is my favorite movie, and it's solely because of an Iowa class Battleship going full broadside on aliens. Yes, the movie is mid, yes, the premise is dumb, but an Iowa class Battleship dropping anchor and drifting into full broadside and blasting the f*ck out of aliens is both extremely 40K sounding now that i'm typing this, and _badass as _*_F*CK._* Insult my boy again. _I f*cking dare you, upon the grace of the God Emperor's true name, _*_I f*cking dare you._*

[@anexistanthuman2435]

We did it, we found the one guy that liked that movie.

[@jojo_sanders5342]

You found the second one as i also enjoyed battleship.

[@aatndrmoskavfav9712]

THIRD ONE. BROAD SIDE

[@power-armoured_german9856]

Number four here. Dumb fun is important

[@Mamba8460]

Make it five

[@dyer4677]

I would say Guilliman should get a boost to his murder score just from The Betrayal at Calth when he got blasted into space from an explosion and was so unfathomably furious he was barehanded pulping Word Bearers without a helmet in pure void for hours before he made it back into breathable atmosphere.

[@lewispatton6550]

Shy: "killed his own sister, relatable".

[@manbearpiglett-4110]

Konrad Kurze Vehicle: A police van. Constructed entirely from bone, flesh, sinew and lifeless, milky eyeballs. With the detainment compartment filled with mutilated corpses. Leaking blood out of its fleshy back doors as it drives around. With a horn that's just a tremendous death scream.

[@DarkKnightroolz]

i find it funny both of my favorite primarchs, Kurze and Angron, can be summed up as "had the possibility of being two of the most geniunely good people to be primarchs, next to Sanginius and Vulkan, but thrown in the literal shittiest and most absuive situations those individuals could've been in and it made them two of the most vile primarchs, only fulgrim being one id definitively call worse.

[@monoclesquid9667]

I just like that the Raven Guard and (for the most part) their successors are actually *functional*

[@gunnarschlichting9886]

Raven Guard and White Scars, managing to stay out of the spotlight by just not fucking up and doing whatever needs to be done.

[@ganjiblobflankis6581]

Horus is a case of "Tell don't show" Everyone is always going on about how charismatic he is, but he barely displays it.

[@Suntensatsu21]

I think the only way Perturabo could handle streaming is if he did minecraft build with comments turned off.

[@SweetOddBoi]

As a lifelong Perturabo stan, PLEASE read Angel Exterminatus for the book club. You get lots of fantastic Perturabo bits in addition to lots of Fulgrim, plus their legions interacting. Great book, and features lots of my favorite boy.

[@vokkera6995]

Let’s be real- fulgrim as a tank more or less means an ice cream truck with a T-shirt cannon that fires belessa sponsorship gear

[@shiranp6]

I was thinking he'd be a Ferrari. Excessive, values luxury and appearance above all else. And most importantly, would be immediately be destroyed in combat.

[@ethansolomon2126]

DK describing Perty as a streamer is literally just LTG

[@minibotas9496]

“Your life literally… is as valuable as a summer ant…” - Perturabo’s start of his speech to his sons after a successful invasion on a NonImportantXenonian planet, circa 29-30k, colorized

[@Ashtor1337]

DK lets his dislike of religion blind him. As stated by Shy, he turned human against it's self with words. He has personality and talking power. You don't start 2 massive cults with out being able to entertain the populations.

[@Myomer104]

A correction for Kirioth: Those inflatable tanks weren't decoys for German bombers, but recon planes. To prevent the Germans from figuring out what D-Day's target was, an entire fictional army (including those inflatables, fake radio traffic, and General George Patton) was set up at the ideal location for a staging area for an invasion force intending to cross the narrowest part of the English Channel, directly across from the French town of Calais. It worked, with Hitler ordering substantial redeployments that left several units unable to oppose the landings.

[@krispykrisps7108]

The British used the inflatable tanks like Kirioth described: deployment near the front lines to draw enemy bomber fire. They were very successful at it. Kirioth simply got the army’s nationality confused.

[@graziano2308]

When Bricky said "he's graduated from the walls" i was expecting to hear: "i'm in your ceiling"

[@darrenmills3943]

Id love a tier list episode on the space marine chapters too

[@jameshewitt4706]

Oh come on! With Perturabo, we cant forget "Ive got you, brother! No harm shall befall you, or your magnificent hair!"

[@lorenzogoglee1320]

DK shoud do a Detectiv ridiculous on the killdozer

[@brokedude9999]

Yes Yes & Yes some more

[@matthewyeldig4608]

To the Battleship movie, I love watching that movie as a case of a bunch of crashed astoroid miners that can't catch a break. "COMMANDER THEY'RE SIGNALING THE FLEET!" "H'THOG, THEY'RE TRYING TO BLOW-UP THE DESTRESS BECON!"

[@ernstbergerbrent]

Next detective ridiculous episode: killdozer

[@ЯАга-я4л]

I think giving Fulgrim S-tier for murder of primarchs is kinda generous, cos only one of those actually died, which only leaves one Ferus, while Leman Russ (supposedly) killed two primarchs. Also, Khan would be great at speedruns.

[@raptorxrise5386]

"Sanguinius doesnt like murder" ... What? Do people forget that there was a reason Kabanda REALLY wanted the blood angels?. They were absolutely murderous. To anyone curious i recommend looking up the Burning of Anahktor.

[@Dokari-l9m]

I thought the blood angels where the legion khorne wanted. Before sanguinius they were raging psychopaths that almost got wiped out by the emperor. After they were slowly decaying bombs of blood thirsty nightmares

[@cassidywoodliff]

Shy out here forgetting that the Khan not only Killed Mortarion, but did it after proving he could handle pain better than him.

[@thewerdna]

Shy out here forgetting that Khan killed demon Mortarion

[@RougeMephilesClone]

To be fair, I didn't know he did that, and I'm shocked to hear that the Warp jump incident happened before the Siege of Terra. I'd always thought it was right afterward.

[@stardestroyer19]

​@@RougeMephilesClone It's probably because you haven't read the actual books lmao.

[@minibotas9496]

@@stardestroyer19in their defense, how many Horus Heresy books are there and of what length *each* ?

[@stardestroyer19]

@@minibotas9496 I mean there's a bunch, but idk why would you be surprised at not knowing something from a book, if you haven't read the said book lmao.

[@complexhero5064]

If Dorn was a transformer, he'd be Metroplex: the Autobot that turns into a city 😂

[@KillerOrca]

I AM the fortification on this position

[@supershifter2180]

Seeing Metroplex in Transformers fall of Cybertron was such a cool thing to witness

[@infernaloz6486]

All I can think of with Fulgrim as a Vtuber is his version of Bao's clip when she is "Down Bad for Blaidd". I think a collab between those two would be both awesome and exceptionally cursed

[@bonogiamboni4830]

Well if we're bringing up bao, and specifically her reaction to blaidd, i think she would also need to collab with 40k's own wolf boy.

[@Xanirii]

Guilliman is the kind of streamer that would be like, really efficient and successful (heavily supported/promoted) but his content would just be a stream of the game, minimal commentary. Good for the people that would want to watch for the sake of the game rather than the player

[@ngominh259]

Imagine SeaNanners - Adam Montoya. His vids are all just laughs, Ws, Ls, banter, cheatsydoodles, etc. Just fun overall. Very unproblematic and mature.

[@dashanimasandman65]

"Fulgrim would have ineffective guns as atank" Bro forgot that the man built effectiveness of his home planet from ground up to 110+%

[@azamatfleming5427]

The Khan honestly is a S tier Primarch due to his characterization from his books and the SOT. He banished Mortarion and was able to prove his point, he had to endure the loss of his closest friends, ponder the nature of the War and if the Emperor is even the right choice, and was an underrated bringer of Morale to the Loyalists.

[@Pragabond]

Yeah the bit with Magnus and that whole talk is still the most emotional thing in 40k for me the close second being the loss of Yesugai. He has amazing quotes but they're not just amazing quotes they're amazing characterization too. Like him dressing Mortarion down and being RIGHT on the money about every last thing he said. The fact he did reasonably criticize the Imperial Truth and how he felt about and respected psykers and the use of the warp as just something to be careful with. He doesn't have any major faults or big trauma to speak of beyond like his dad dying and him getting mad but I don't think you need the same level of trauma so many primarchs have going on to be interesting and deserving of S tier. Bricky saying we just need to see how he handles conflict more when most of the lore IS him dealing with conflicting alliances is bonkers to me.

[@azamatfleming5427]

@@Pragabond Chris Wraight understood perfectly that Jaghatai needed to be a straight man of sorts when compared to his brothers. You said it perfectly when it came to his conflict, it’s not about melodrama or issues, for the Khan it’s about the nature of Inaction vs Action. When he was at the trial for one of the White Scars who sided with Horus, the tension and conflict in that scene wasn’t about betrayal and traitor sons, but about honor vs integrity. The moral conflict of sons who wanted to please their father and made an irrational vow doing so. I’ll say it anyday of the week, but the Khan is S-tier because he’s the Primarch who sits and thinks about causes, effects, and the emotions in a situation, but is also the first one to rush into battle when there is good to be done. I love Vulkan, and his character is meant to be the “gentle giant who bears the great burden”, while the Khan is the “wise and honest Warlord”

[@TheRealStyxo]

Strongly disagree with Bricky on Horus' evaluation! We dont see his childhood, but we see him at his highest highs (Triumpf of Ullanor) and his lowest lows (Atrocity of Istvaan V, "then let the galaxy burn") peaking in the final confrontation with Big E and Horus' realization during the End and the Death. I understand Shys argument, that we have not seen his rise to power, we have not seen his heros journey so to say, but since we started with him at his highest, we witnessed his downfall in detail, including the madness that took the galaxy in its wake. In short: After his promotion to Warmaster, he had nothing left to gain (last substantial enemy that could threaten the Imperium was crushed, probably the reason for Big Es timing to leave), but still all to loose (quite emberrassing to loose against the trash leftover enemies now that daddys gone, oh and any failure falls back to you since youre in charge of all fighting in the galaxy basically). Picture being promoted at your job with all the extra work and none of the benefits. And as icing on top: all of your previous coworking bros now hate you because daddy put you above them. Highly recommend the first trilogy of the Horus Heresy series as well as the last trilogy of the Siege of Terra series, i dont believe you would find him dull after that. :)

[@benmccarthy4482]

Fulgrim didnt kill Perturabo, he drained him to attempt to become a demon primarch but had his plans ruined by some random iron hands and 1 ravenguard. Perturabo gets restored and then kills fulgrim, who turns into a demon anyways. Perturabo doesnt turn into a demon before the siege of terra. This is all in Angel Exterminatus.

[@Ashtor1337]

Facts!

[@teejay1646]

I hope they retcon it so vashtorr is the one who ascends perty. It just fits so well and takes away from of the narrative dissatisfaction of having him fall fully to chaos even though he can't stand them

[@annabanana42069]

This is legitimately my first adeptus ridiculous podcast. I'm already a fan. Kudos.

[@ericross156]

Does anyone remember the time gilly made a joke at his situation

[@sheilasherret9596]

Yes, his most powerful opponent, a piece of paper lmao

[@ishmeilmathis2218]

Then the depression hit again when his bodyguard went, "Was that supposed to be a joke?" Realizing no one knows him for anything other than being blueberry boy scout taxman

[@Loki730r]

This was the first episode I chose to listen to. I do not regret starting here at all.

[@stainedvictory5764]

The Khan injustice for the murder tierlist is real but understandable cause Shys a Ork fan he easily should be S tier. To quote " But by then, the Khan himself was almost invisible, hidden behind a curtain of severed flesh and thrown blood, a primordial force burning through the xenos tanks, inviolable and darkly magnificent. For the first time that entire campaign, the greenskins tried to run, to scramble away from the hungering devil that raced to devour them....." the Khan cuts down a large swath of an army as well as a warboss by himself and they never even landed a blow on him. He murdered them and walked back to his sons covered in gore like it was another tuesday.

[@VivoDraconis]

Guilliman would be a techer-streamer working on excel all day and being fkin excited about it and also stoic as shit

[@jordinagel1184]

I know AdRic is all about entertainment before facts, but I’m getting reaaaally tired of them (and a lot of other 40k fans, mind you) peddling this “All it took for Horus to fall was being stabbed by a stupid poisoned knife” narrative, because that’s an idiotic simplification of what happened. That would be like saying Anakin betrayed the Jedi because he wasn’t getting enough sleep. What actually caused Horus to turn wasn’t the stabbing in and of itself, but rather the visions he saw during his coma, courtesy of Erebus, which in turn wouldn’t have influenced him this much if he didn’t already have nagging doubts about his father’s intentions. Horus still was badly underwritten for being the eponymous engineer of the Heresy, but let’s not make it any worse by lying, okay? Since I mentioned Star Wars before, if you want an actual stupid case of “Virtuous warrior gets stabbed by evil knife and is now evil because of the evil poison,” look no further than Ulic Qel-Droma, an ancient Jedi knight who was captured by some stupid frat siblings who thought the dark side was cool and was stabbed with a special knife that immediately made him evil. One of the stupidest things I’ve ever seen, even including the sequel movies.

[@refurbishedtechpriest9076]

I feel ya. I actually unsubscribed from these guys for a while because of how often they seem to prioritize "entertainment" above conveying actual lore. And I'm thoroughly convinced Bricky is no where near the lore-expert he claims to be. He might know a fair bit, but he stumbles over basic lore often enough and some of his opinions are just questionable at best... Reeking of ignorance and/or personal-biases at worse.

[@Atrahasis7]

Guiliman turned from D to Solid A in the past over the long years to me. Not only he has character, the fact that hes comparatively the most humble of all of them and now has the gigantic task to do the impossible and save the Imperium, and honestly hes the best choice of them all. Its like dying splinter asking Leonardo to help his brothers. Seems like nobody likes Leo, but we always fall back on them.

[@GreaterSeraph]

The other Primarchs are playing Souls-likes and Bethesda games on Legendary difficulty and the enemies are endless. Guilliman is playing the worst game of Civ that he inherited after 100 people each put 100 hours of bad decisions into the playthrough and now he has to deal with it. He doesn't just need to repel constant war, he also needs to fix and respec nearly every asset he has because someone else either didn't notice or didn't care that it's spec'd stupidly.

[@damonatherstone9195]

Not giving kurze a batmobile covered in knives is criminal

[@oj8475]

Perturabo would get stream-sniped by an imperial fist in Rust, try to get revenge and seethes for the entire wipe because the base is so immaculately defended

[@1tankdestroyer778]

Purturabo is now furious that Dorn is next to him.

[@LordOfOracle]

The boys questioning Sanguinius' S tier murder potential while he solo'd a warlord titan and made its warhound escorts flee in fear during the siege of terra is kind of on point. Don't mansplain Shy when it comes to murder.

[@mitchellscott-young5501]

I could hear the lazer pig Reee when the T-34 was mentioned.

[@indi6007]

The corax slander is astounding

[@Tastylettuce12]

Magnus’ chat being like Bricky’s makes sense. Magnus lost an eye and it opened up all that real estate for more forehead.

[@lyndenbartlett2512]

This was my first episode, nice job boys

[@gunnarbrown5087]

Vulkan would defiantly be a Churchill Crocodile

[@Scottoest]

Guilliman might've killed Lorgar had Angron not intervened and then turned into a demon primarch. He also went on a murder spree in space with no helmet or gun.

[@user-jl2ev9el8c]

I feel like the fact that bricky and dk haven’t read a lot of heresy books affects their judgements a fair amount. Like if bricky had read scars, path of heaven, buried dagger and Warhawk he’d place khan and mortarion a lot higher. Not that deep though, still enjoyed the episode

[@Ottakazi]

Honestly, it's pretty fun and entertaining format for a video

[@MinchPlayer]

Dorn would exclusively stream dwarf fortress, change my mind

[@Dirt1061]

Bro, two long podcasts this week! Amazing work from AR and PH!!!

[@RoxxieRaeVA]

"Liger Zero is a mecha wolf." DK ARE YOU SERIOUS?? I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE ASHAMED IN ALL MY DAYS. For shame, good sir, for shame.

[@holdenbaker8844]

This is in fact the first pod ep I’m listening to 😎

[@joerobertson9168]

Bobby G got ejected into space without a helmet and went on a killing spree against the word bearers

[@dzasays5516]

I had a terrible day at work today and I knew listening to this would most definitely turn my day around. Thanks very much Shy and guys! I love Adric so much.