Primary Arms ACSS Platinum 1-8x24mm & ACOG Shootout

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Iraqveteran8888

Iraqveteran8888

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@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 6 жыл бұрын
They're solid optics for sure.
@AdamosDad
@AdamosDad 6 жыл бұрын
Mrgunsngear Channel , Good to see you, I bought the Primary Arms scope on your recommend and love it, killing deer with it.
@PSNGamer
@PSNGamer 6 жыл бұрын
How do they compare to the vortex strike eagle?
@DavidMN-
@DavidMN- 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@Falcon-vu5qp
@Falcon-vu5qp 6 жыл бұрын
@@PSNGamer I believe Grand Thumb has a video comparing them.
@evey0259
@evey0259 5 жыл бұрын
@@PSNGamer It absolutely blows the Strike Eagle out of the water. The Razor Gen 2 is a more apt comparison and even then I'd give the edge to the ACSS because the reticle is just that good.
@until11
@until11 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like a scopecam could have improved this video by a lot. Pretty much the whole video just watching you hold a rifle and can’t see any of what’s happening on the range either. Most of us are watching this on a five inch screen. So we got the benefit of your research, but I think it would have had more impact if we had the feeling of being able to experience it ourselves. Appreciate all your work.
@ThePolareyes53
@ThePolareyes53 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you figured out how the ACSS reticle works.
@cheezwizambullard
@cheezwizambullard 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@adamsowers8957
@adamsowers8957 4 жыл бұрын
5 nut shots in a row. Rounds stacked. Chad, "you're in there". Fuckn love this channel.
@g0hl
@g0hl 6 жыл бұрын
LOVE my primary arms prism 5x. Really good build quality, and the etched reticle is awesome.
@vahnn0
@vahnn0 5 жыл бұрын
I have one of those, it's excellent. Only wish I'd taken the chevron instead of the dot. It's a little tougher to hit those longer shots with the dot. But it's nice and clear glass, crisp reticle, bright illumination in red or green, and great for shooting up close with both eyes open, too. I'll probably pick up another.
@winstonshelton3237
@winstonshelton3237 6 жыл бұрын
Iraqvet8888 continues to put up great vids that we want to see! Yall do a great job
@pyroroyal3641
@pyroroyal3641 6 жыл бұрын
videos like that are perfect to eat in front of the computer. just watch and keep shoveling xD
@rusTORK
@rusTORK 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, 37 minutes to slowly eat food. Not a damn dreakfast or fast food shit. =)
@Mpeterson1286
@Mpeterson1286 6 жыл бұрын
90% of content is in fact consumed during lunch break consumption.
@MrSmith223
@MrSmith223 6 жыл бұрын
Pyro Royal be careful, that’s how blimps are born.
@Salpeteroxid
@Salpeteroxid 6 жыл бұрын
Micheal Peterson Rest on the toilet.
@seanwhite304
@seanwhite304 5 жыл бұрын
That's why LMT MRP is the best platform period . Being able to switch between piston and DI is a game changer . Crazy it's been out since 2004ish. Their CS is absolutely the best for military and commercial market. I fell in love with the 1-8× ACSS, TA31 and TA44 .
@latigomorgan
@latigomorgan 4 жыл бұрын
I got the "cheap" PA 1-8 ACSS. Mounted on a Chilean military Imbel FAL built on a CAI upper receiver using a DSA mount. Shot a 24" gong on a mountainside at ~775 yards, standing with rifle supported on my SUV's spare tire. Ammo: 1973 Indian 7.62x51 surplus 147 ball. Fantastic scope transformed the FAL, even with what is not considered very high quality ammo.
@joerobertson7887
@joerobertson7887 5 жыл бұрын
I may be wrong, but I think Trijicon is now putting the Primary Arms ACSS reticle in the ACOG. I have 20 Primary Arms optics including 6 ACSS 1-6X scopes plus the new Raptor with first focal plane. You cannot beat these things for quality at a great price.
@PROutdoors94
@PROutdoors94 6 жыл бұрын
You guys should have an image of the reticle where you show us your hold for each range! It would be great to know each hold in real time kind of thing.
@Kolby9241
@Kolby9241 6 жыл бұрын
Love Primary Arms. I just ordered a ton of affordable gear from them!
@kylesonsalla7620
@kylesonsalla7620 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 4-14x44 ACSS DMR scope on my GII 308 Recon and it's immensely fun to shoot. Just point and click.
@texasdeeslinglead2401
@texasdeeslinglead2401 6 жыл бұрын
Kyle Sonsalla same here , its near stupid proof. I love the acss reticle.
@LibertyLou_
@LibertyLou_ 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 3x for the 7.62x39 cartridge and I can hit 600m like nothing.
@leroyatleroys
@leroyatleroys 6 жыл бұрын
No disrespect intended. But I think it is funny when people say 4 power is a limited range. I remember being in the Army and having to qualify with irons, wishing I had a scope to help with the 300. Then I eventually got issued an M16 with an aimpoint dot. Then an M4 the an aimpoint. The dot was a step up, but still no magification. Once I got used to it, I definitely fired better. One time, we had a particularly long day at the range and a lot of ammo to use. My rifle started jamming from all the fire, even after quick cleaning and lubing. So my 1SG made me use his rifle to keep shooting. His had a 2 power ACOG. It may not have been much, but damn did the magnification make a difference. Don't get me wrong, I understand that the 6X's magnification helps much more. I also understand that at the end of the day, it comes down to shooter discipline. But I have a different view on the ACOG. If it is a mid to long range rifle such as the AR platform, I would say that any magnification is helping more than limiting. Still, love your vids. Always informative!
@threesons270
@threesons270 6 жыл бұрын
They didn't charge you because you have millions of people watching.
@C-M-E
@C-M-E 6 жыл бұрын
I was going to inquire if the experience would be the same for those of us without a top-shelf KZbin channel =)
@hurricanepaul1
@hurricanepaul1 6 жыл бұрын
N weezy 6 min in and i was thinking the exact same thing so i scrolled to see if someone else posted lol
@spiritof78
@spiritof78 6 жыл бұрын
You might be surprised by how top shelf companies treat their customers, in a good way.
@threesons270
@threesons270 6 жыл бұрын
lol no crime.. LMT didn't charge him to fix his rifle
@threesons270
@threesons270 6 жыл бұрын
i don't doubt that, though its funny how sometimes low and middle shelf companies have way better customer service overall than top shelf. IE Smith and Wesson, Ruger, walther have amazing CS. Ive never dealt with LMT but I would wonder if they would do that a random customer.
@walterschisser398
@walterschisser398 6 жыл бұрын
You need a scope cam
@Jonno2summit
@Jonno2summit 4 жыл бұрын
I have the same scope, but Silver Series (cheaper glass?); but I love this reticle. It does SO much while being easy to learn and remember. It's just a common-sense reticle that is a serious tool for your eye without cranking on the tube at all.
@glockerbob
@glockerbob 6 жыл бұрын
Damn.... That ACSS is a keeper. Very impressive.
@AdamSmith-hv1tj
@AdamSmith-hv1tj 6 жыл бұрын
Lol.. you can tell Eric is slightly frustrated with Chad's persistent commentary on the wind. Lmfao.
@FK-GOOGLE
@FK-GOOGLE 5 жыл бұрын
Adam Smith so was I! 😂
@randelldarky3920
@randelldarky3920 6 жыл бұрын
I have a PA 1-6. It gives a great advantage
@JohnTaylor-xh9gk
@JohnTaylor-xh9gk 6 жыл бұрын
On these reticle videos you can put a picture of the reticle in the top left corner where there is no action only trees.
@jungle1776
@jungle1776 6 жыл бұрын
Someone loves their PA scope lol
@TexasTrained
@TexasTrained 6 жыл бұрын
I watched the very same comparison on same scope today with 3 guys...one being Dimittri that Invented the ACSS of Primary Arms. It's all fine advertisement for PA...they are one of my favorite companies I buy from. But damn. Spread these out.Last week it was the same deal on the 1-8 Platinum bu 4 guys and also on the O-Light Flashlights
@AoVis
@AoVis 6 жыл бұрын
As a Lithuanian its nice to hear good response about GGG ammo
@spade2you
@spade2you 5 жыл бұрын
Just picked up the ACOG ACSS. Can't wait to test it out.
@raizlc
@raizlc 6 жыл бұрын
An 8x did better than a 4x at 600 yards? Crazy! Mrgunsngear sold me on the PA 1-6x ACSS. Got one on the way from opticsplanet right now. Thanks for your updated review. Wish I had the cash for the Platinum.
@blackjack3599
@blackjack3599 6 жыл бұрын
Silent capture spring and a suppressed bolt and carrier will make it a quiet rig. A test in the future on that?
@paladin7284
@paladin7284 6 жыл бұрын
I really want that reticle in a 2-7 scout scope. It would be perfect for an m1a
@sad_no
@sad_no 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you like our ammo!
@stevelucier8346
@stevelucier8346 5 жыл бұрын
Select the ACSS 1- 8 a few months back. Just haven't bought one yet.
@grantcrawford5083
@grantcrawford5083 6 жыл бұрын
LMT probably rebuilt that for you because you showed that awesome upper ran like a scalded dog, while taking a bigger pounding than the cheapest lady of the evening. It was a great showing!
@conservativegunsandarmor
@conservativegunsandarmor 6 жыл бұрын
Please make a Gun Gripe about the recent bombings as soon as yall are able to. Yall make awesome videos!
@CoryHobbs2178
@CoryHobbs2178 6 жыл бұрын
Just bought the Gen 3 1-6x ACSS, can't wait to sight it in
@allanryan6014
@allanryan6014 5 жыл бұрын
Cory Hobbs how did the 1x6 work for you or would you wish you had the 1x8 Thanks in advance
@FRECSF1
@FRECSF1 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a direct reference to the recital you are using for the specific yardage so we can get a general idea of the hold overs and exactly how you are using the recital to make these shots.
@kelbini
@kelbini 6 жыл бұрын
New regs suck i voiced my opinion to google i also downloaded full 30 also buying a t shirt to support you eric we love yah man
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 6 жыл бұрын
That Lithuanian ball ammo is awesome! It shot less than an inch group in my PSA! Tell Ray V. I said hi! Good shooting.
@Travelingforlife
@Travelingforlife 3 жыл бұрын
Do all the turrets lock? I don't want to be accidentally turning on the illumination. Thanks
@curtmurtha3236
@curtmurtha3236 6 жыл бұрын
I like to put your videos on while I am at the reloading bench
@minutemanqvs
@minutemanqvs 6 жыл бұрын
The GGG ammo 8s fantastic stuff in 55 and 69 grains, we ar shooting a lot of it here in Switzerland and it compares totally well with our GP90!
@swenledig9054
@swenledig9054 6 жыл бұрын
minutemanqvs yeps, here in Germany I use the 55gr ones too. 20€/50 pieces if you buy 20 packs
@nicholasbecklund3286
@nicholasbecklund3286 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly the video I have been looking for! Thanks!
@billbee235
@billbee235 5 жыл бұрын
I know this video is old but I finally tested my Platinum 1-8x w/ the original ACSS out to 600 yards using 69gr SMK w/ Varget going 2900fps. Managed to smack a 10-inch plate pretty easy! I’m definitely sold, only took me like 2 years to test my scope 😂
@lancecrotwell2542
@lancecrotwell2542 6 жыл бұрын
Could you do a review and meltdown test with an FN FAL
@PSNGamer
@PSNGamer 6 жыл бұрын
How do they compare to the vortex strike eagle?
@bjdenil
@bjdenil 2 жыл бұрын
Is that the ffp or sfp version of the Primary arms?
@gattac900
@gattac900 6 жыл бұрын
That 1-8 is killer!
@disgruntled181
@disgruntled181 6 жыл бұрын
Less talking - More SHOOTING! Seriously though great episode!
@keenanwalker6597
@keenanwalker6597 6 жыл бұрын
So I’m curious how does the acss reticle fair with say the black hills 77gr OTM out of a 16” pipe?
@threexfromwsg
@threexfromwsg 6 жыл бұрын
keenan walker you must zero at a different range.
@PolskiHetzen
@PolskiHetzen 6 жыл бұрын
you pray and hope the reticle is good for your load.
@jackasschicken5922
@jackasschicken5922 6 жыл бұрын
keenan walker It'll be way off. You'll just need to figure out what marks work for you.
@PolskiHetzen
@PolskiHetzen 6 жыл бұрын
and hold it in space/wrong yardage. Might as well just get a regular milling reticle.
@nc_classics_9610
@nc_classics_9610 6 жыл бұрын
Fine, zero about an inch high at 100 yards
@kennethrich2107
@kennethrich2107 6 жыл бұрын
The Gun Collective just dropped a KZbin bombshell
@lerch400block
@lerch400block 6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't shooting from a raised position screw with the bullet drop calculations? I guess the agnle isn't big enough to effect.
@chris3383
@chris3383 6 жыл бұрын
lerch400block actually you are probably correct without knowing the height of their platform hard to be sure ...they did say one time when they 1st built it
@lerch400block
@lerch400block 6 жыл бұрын
Press Shop at certain angles gravity is affected. Tedsholdover has a great video explaining this.
@Len_M.
@Len_M. 6 жыл бұрын
Press Shop Greater the vertical Height and Angle, the less the actual distance. If you are shooting at a given distance, then shoot from a vertical position, it can require less MILs. That is why an Angle Cosine Gauge is a vital accessory on an ELR setup.
@RossPotts
@RossPotts 6 жыл бұрын
Waiting for my PA 1-8×24 to come in. @2:10. Soooooo, what search terms should we be combing the boards with to get this Lithuanian 556 ammo?
@knox199181
@knox199181 6 жыл бұрын
can you also add the barrel twist in your vids? thanks
@mtncorps8750
@mtncorps8750 4 жыл бұрын
if you graphite lube the follower channel and/or keep it clean, Lancer mags are some of the best. No high temp swell.
@dawnhilbruner2614
@dawnhilbruner2614 6 жыл бұрын
I have hit 700 yard targets with a Tavor using a aces reticle in a 4 power. Acog it a good system
@marzcapone9939
@marzcapone9939 6 жыл бұрын
So, why did that bolt carrier fail from the meltdown? Heat treat I assume?
@BR4INlessBRI4N
@BR4INlessBRI4N 6 жыл бұрын
the ggg nato ball costs about 380€ per 1000round box where i live (austria) and for being just plain factory ammo it holds pretty good groups (2 inches at 100 meters just with a reddot on my friends AUG)
@charlessexton1719
@charlessexton1719 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a review on the victory firefield 2.5-10×40 out to 600 yards. It is a luminated mil dot reticle with a laser built in on the side of it. I bought 1 at accademy sports for $90.00 and it seems to be a good optic but i only have a 100 yard range to shoot at. Thank you for all the valuable information that you provide us with.
@brian3030brown
@brian3030brown 4 жыл бұрын
What is the gun against the tree in the background?
@enginnerdedtohoopajoop4604
@enginnerdedtohoopajoop4604 6 жыл бұрын
if you had a 20" barrel do think u would have had a little more accuracy and precision connecting at 600 yards using the acog?
@reddotshooters
@reddotshooters 6 жыл бұрын
I love the ACSS reticle. Good shooting
@Monte_gabagool
@Monte_gabagool 6 жыл бұрын
how would you compare the PA optic to the vortex razor in terms of durability and ruggedness?
@michaellawton5051
@michaellawton5051 6 жыл бұрын
Can you test the 70 grain barns vor-tex ammo will that reticle. I have a 24" barrel on my AR an they shoot amazing groups with a velocity of 3075 fps. Wanted to see if that reticle would work with the 70 grain pill.
@krono5el
@krono5el 6 жыл бұрын
once you acss you never go back.
@cmaugle
@cmaugle 6 жыл бұрын
You know it.
@jeremymolaison1915
@jeremymolaison1915 6 жыл бұрын
4 sho!
@2000rayc
@2000rayc 6 жыл бұрын
when your thinking about the Vortex Razor HD Gen II i might not go back. i dont know what i WANT!
@TheMadCombat
@TheMadCombat 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly dont like it
@GeorgiaBoy1961
@GeorgiaBoy1961 5 жыл бұрын
Trijicon acknowledged as much, as they licensed the ACSS for the ACOG.
@jklop7841
@jklop7841 6 жыл бұрын
Is this glass better/clearer than the Vortex Razor?
@LPhoenix98
@LPhoenix98 6 жыл бұрын
I was just wondering how a Palmetto Defense lower with a Accu- trigger mounted with the Adams Arms 11.5" Voodoo barrel with a pinned and welded faux moderator would do using the ACSS reticle in ACOG and the 1-8 scope you used for this video would do out to some of the ranges you were shooting. I only ask because I have this setup and am using a NcStar 2-8x28 mil-dot and am getting 1" groups at 200yds. I know everyone is laughing at me hard right now but isn't that sub moa accuracy? I ordered the stripped lower and used a DPMS parts kit with the exception of the trigger. The trigger is a polymer setup from a full polymer lower that broke at the back where the buffer tube screws in from a 2" drop on carpet! So I sought some advice for a good lower and was told to go with Palmetto Defence instead of Palmetto Armory and it mates up to the Adams Arms upper gloriously. It is a very tight fit and the only thing I can think of is that the tight fitting of the lower and upper combined with the 11.5" barrel which is very thick doesn't allow much barrel whip giving it its accuracy. It's also a 1:7 twist and I am shooting 75gr. Privvy Partisan ammo that is Match King bthp. I get the same result from M855 62gr. LAP PMC X-TAC PMC rounds at 2920 FPS. Any chance of trying it out?
@giausjulius4
@giausjulius4 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a personal fan of German surplus. Can't remember the designation since I'm at work on break but it's a nice consistent load.
@greatdrd
@greatdrd 5 жыл бұрын
What is that click after shooting
@charliebrownsd
@charliebrownsd 6 жыл бұрын
How does the Lithuanian compare to PMC M855 in your opinion? I haven't put any of the Lithuanian down range.
@HM1-d4d
@HM1-d4d 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Eric, I like this Primary Arms Platinum 1-8 x 24 product. But what would you compaire it to e.g. Nightforce or Trijicon Accupower ?
6 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s really good shooting with a for power optic out to that distance that’s really good. I actually own the 1to 6 x 24 PA scope. I actually have two of them one set up on my AK-47 and one set up on my Keltec 5.56 bullpup
@JimmyNguyen69
@JimmyNguyen69 6 жыл бұрын
How does the platinum compare to the trijicon 1-8?
@ronpettit3200
@ronpettit3200 5 жыл бұрын
In the paper there is sig called the Romeo and Juliet it's. Scope and red Dot are they any good and can you review them when you get. Change
@kevinbrady75
@kevinbrady75 6 жыл бұрын
Lewis Machine & Tool Company is by far one of the highest quality AR-15 you can get...premium military grade
@nathanalbanese
@nathanalbanese 6 жыл бұрын
This channel has become one giant ad
@turinreza
@turinreza 6 жыл бұрын
can you do a video on how to zero a 6.8 spc or other non 308, 556 for the PA ACSS?
@cjbrockman7007
@cjbrockman7007 6 жыл бұрын
I second that
@mattlangstraaat3508
@mattlangstraaat3508 6 жыл бұрын
Stop picking stupid guns
@marcuschauvin7039
@marcuschauvin7039 6 жыл бұрын
Nikon has good optics as well.
@ghostuscoyote
@ghostuscoyote 6 жыл бұрын
Well thanks to you guys and other gun KZbinrs these scopes are out of stock and you can't get the single mount for free either... I'm mad because I couldn't afford one a few months ago before you guys got to it...
@chevydrum82
@chevydrum82 6 жыл бұрын
Ghostus Coyote yeah I happened with me also and went back in stock I got the 4 - 14 power acss for my ar10
@ghostuscoyote
@ghostuscoyote 6 жыл бұрын
Captain Obvious well the problem is not the price anymore, the problem is I could have had a free scope mount that is not the cheapest thing ever too. Now I would have to buy from some other source and then add another 50$ or so for the mount when I could have just not paid $50. It's the principle. It really sucks to suck...
@talon0863
@talon0863 6 жыл бұрын
optics planet still has some
@ghostuscoyote
@ghostuscoyote 6 жыл бұрын
talon0863 it's about the free mount! Scope mounts cost a lot for some reason. That $50 or so could be spent on ammo or a good sling or something. It was offered and now it's gone. Now it will sit in the back of my mind for what I could have had, but is now gone. Maybe it will come back in stock?
@ghostuscoyote
@ghostuscoyote 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, they went back in stock and I bought one, but they still only offered the scope rings for free and not the cooler single mount... oh well, better than nothing!
@_Moonshiner_
@_Moonshiner_ 6 жыл бұрын
Gonna miss you Eric rip it channel my friend
@iphsniper6490
@iphsniper6490 6 жыл бұрын
Would like to see a video on the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8
@john-jc5nn
@john-jc5nn 6 жыл бұрын
Idk if anyone is even on this anymore but what’s the difference between the silver and platinum series?
@ghostshadow9046
@ghostshadow9046 6 жыл бұрын
need an adjustable gas block so you can turn it down a bit when you put the suppressor on, a bit over gassed.
@aaronorr5586
@aaronorr5586 6 жыл бұрын
Ghost Shadow ...🤔😐😑. I sincerely hope that was sarcasm or a facetious comment.
@garyjohns4711
@garyjohns4711 5 жыл бұрын
Lancer had some bad followers from their supplier, you prob have one, contact them with your mag info and they can tell you and ship you new ones lancers are the best mag available so far...
@matthewcarle8912
@matthewcarle8912 6 жыл бұрын
Does that Lithuanian ammo run this well in most AR's?
@legallimitoutdoors9917
@legallimitoutdoors9917 2 жыл бұрын
How come no one talking about what zoom too be on why using the range finder?
@VanXHydrA
@VanXHydrA 2 жыл бұрын
I'm considering buying the Primary Arms FFP ACCS reticle offa Amazon to try out. It's $400 without a mount.. and Iits aboit twice what I can even begin tk afford to spend. However ide really like to compare it to the Monstrum 1-6x FFP with their MOA whatever reticle... I really wish Monstrum would make a FFP 1-6/1-8x LPVO with the ACSS reticle for like $275 with the one peice mount... That would rock.
@PROutdoors94
@PROutdoors94 6 жыл бұрын
Man it’s my dream to have a range like this where I can walk my rifle from 100 yards and up :(
@allenaussie7041
@allenaussie7041 6 жыл бұрын
Would it be acceptable to tap a k31 to mount a scope for a cheep precision rifle?
@openmythirdeye
@openmythirdeye 6 жыл бұрын
Allen Aussie don't do it bubba
@joshbryan8028
@joshbryan8028 6 жыл бұрын
If you haven't already you should make an AR wildcat cartridge video comparing several, like .277 wolverine, 7 raptor, .25-45 sharps ect...
@guigui78340
@guigui78340 6 жыл бұрын
what's the grey thing with the cables?
@kennethrich2107
@kennethrich2107 6 жыл бұрын
Eric, where are you scoring the M855 ?
@mitch920
@mitch920 6 жыл бұрын
i have looked thru most your vidios was looking for some info about the ati omni max hybred when you have time thank you
@The.Southern.Outdoorsman
@The.Southern.Outdoorsman 6 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me who makes the suppressor cover used in this video? Thank you
@army209538
@army209538 5 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on your thoughts on a Acog clones aka Fakcog
@bigcountrysshippingcontain6513
@bigcountrysshippingcontain6513 6 жыл бұрын
I'd really like to see the prism 3x vs the acog go head to head see if the pa prism is a tuff and rugged as the acog drops slaps hits. We all know the 1200 bucks for the acog is rugged as a tank but can the prism take the same abuse
@danieldunlap4077
@danieldunlap4077 6 жыл бұрын
I think we need to see you shoot an AR-15 with an ion bonded bolt carrier and a 1 to 6 magnification Trijicon accupoint. I believe this setup was described as robust and precise
@adorabledeplorable1045
@adorabledeplorable1045 6 жыл бұрын
Love the ACOG on my 300 blk. 👍🏻
@dangerousfreedom4965
@dangerousfreedom4965 6 жыл бұрын
What sight do you prefer?
@JohnW1711stock
@JohnW1711stock 6 жыл бұрын
Go for the Gofer! I like that.
@boldie24
@boldie24 2 жыл бұрын
I have and love both optics
@McRawDog90
@McRawDog90 6 жыл бұрын
How about trying with the 5.45x39.
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