Prime Mike Tyson vs Prime Muhammad Ali: Who would win in a fight?

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@BluntmanOO7
@BluntmanOO7 4 жыл бұрын
Ali claimed Tyson would win, Tyson claimed Ali would win, goes to show how much respect two of these greats had for one another!
@romelgonzales2754
@romelgonzales2754 4 жыл бұрын
Yh i saw that interveiw and ali said if tyson could catch him or something then he would win
@joseantoniodelgado109
@joseantoniodelgado109 4 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed, that's respect to the fullest.
@peterchown1552
@peterchown1552 4 жыл бұрын
What Ali said was “ if Mike could catch him he might win “ but no one could catch Ali in his prime .
@redlizerad8268
@redlizerad8268 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Chown yeah also I don’t think Tyson has the fastest foot work
@captaincaveman2040
@captaincaveman2040 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson would drop Ali like a bad habit. And if he couldn't catch him in the ring he would just grab hold and bite his Muslim wang off. Allah Akbar!!!!
@GiantSandles
@GiantSandles 4 жыл бұрын
It's crazy that Ali emerged as the best fighter in probably the best era for heavyweight boxing ever and he wasn't even in his prime for most of it, that's how good he was
@junaidahmed2235
@junaidahmed2235 4 жыл бұрын
GiantSandles exactly
@peterbalac1915
@peterbalac1915 4 жыл бұрын
Corectamundo my freind 👌Ali all day long 👊
@thomybear123
@thomybear123 4 жыл бұрын
Evan Cunningham Honesty they probably don’t even know about Ali being robbed of his prime. They just salivate over “prime Tyson” when they do not realize he never had any wins that compare to Ali or just make excuses when he lost.
@gingeritalianoo
@gingeritalianoo 4 жыл бұрын
But that same argument could be said for Mike too. If Cus stayed alive, then what would mike Tyson of been like by the age of 29. The Mike we actually saw around that age was washed up and ruined by the people around him and his unstable self. He was definitely the weaker of the two mentally but boxing ability with Cus and Rooney, he wasn't human, just a machine.
@markmorris7123
@markmorris7123 4 жыл бұрын
@Evan Cunningham that's because Mike was only really good up until 22.
@fahadfarooq7815
@fahadfarooq7815 4 жыл бұрын
Ali"tyson would win" tyson"Ali would win* Legends❤️
@Mralways
@Mralways 4 жыл бұрын
@Just DabYup, because a couch potato on KZbin will know what the professionals in this video don't lmao get a clue bud
@izrathnizam6364
@izrathnizam6364 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mralways they all have great respect for ali, i think tyson in his prime would beat ali in his prime, tyson in his prime is like joe frazier times 100, if ali was to win it would be on points.
@izrathnizam6364
@izrathnizam6364 4 жыл бұрын
@xthen rx Tyson would end him because muhammad ali never punched hard, he punched with speed and accuracy.
@izrathnizam6364
@izrathnizam6364 4 жыл бұрын
@xthen rx There's been multiple times where ali would rest on the ropes and if tyson was in his prime he would definitely beat ali, he's also much shorter so he will be able to use his style much more effectively, i like ali better but this is clear who would win.
@izrathnizam6364
@izrathnizam6364 4 жыл бұрын
@xthen rx I disagree after watching countless hours of both the fighters. Tyson is a Joe Frazier times 100. Tyson in his prime was pretty much unstoppable and most fighters say he in his prime was the most dangerous.
@dio8684
@dio8684 4 жыл бұрын
People forgot ali beat a lot of those dudes OUT of his prime. In Ali's prime he was without a doubt the greatest heavyweight to ever live, in the George foreman fight he showed glimpses of himself where he was dancing for a short period, and he whooped foreman every time. Imo I don't any fighter ever in the heavyweight division comes close to beating a prime ali.
@babua077
@babua077 4 жыл бұрын
Fax
@kingston6008
@kingston6008 4 жыл бұрын
Any fighter in any division Ali is the goat of boxing period he beat everyone he faced until the Parkinson’s started kicking in
@BenJamin-0707
@BenJamin-0707 4 жыл бұрын
prime ali and prime tyson are the two greatest heavyweights of all time both unstoppable i don’t see any of them losing in their prime. i see honestlya draw between mike and ali
@RazorEdge2006
@RazorEdge2006 3 жыл бұрын
Even the older Ali from the '70s would've beaten Tyson, let alone the prime Ali from the '60s. Prime Ali was untouchable.
@gcg8187
@gcg8187 3 жыл бұрын
@@RazorEdge2006 no, ali never fought someone like tyson. Tyson was crazy fast so dont compare him to foreman
@nasfrom-da-ldn7362
@nasfrom-da-ldn7362 4 жыл бұрын
“Sometimes the will will out do the skill “ Muhammad Ali
@denissssss8579
@denissssss8579 4 жыл бұрын
Nas from-da-Ldn yes
@LastlyMore
@LastlyMore 4 жыл бұрын
I think Mike Tyson said when he found out Ali would die in the ring to win a fight. Tyson said he wouldn't have that mentality. That to me says a lot.
@misternatural1338
@misternatural1338 4 жыл бұрын
It sgows to when he gave up in his later fights and just sat on his behind.
@minkye3365
@minkye3365 4 жыл бұрын
@@misternatural1338 He couldnt touch the tip of his nose, let alone box in his later days
@antonherder1628
@antonherder1628 4 жыл бұрын
No one can best prime Mike literally no one ali cant hit hard at all mike can knew shot many
@crazyviralvideos9299
@crazyviralvideos9299 4 жыл бұрын
@@antonherder1628 precision beats power
@lifebydesign9435
@lifebydesign9435 4 жыл бұрын
Ali has more skill by far. Skill>power
@unclejoe3397
@unclejoe3397 4 жыл бұрын
Fury thinks Ali would win but doesn't want to disrespect the one he was named after.
@legendovbago4716
@legendovbago4716 4 жыл бұрын
Fury and tyson are two humble men
@itubecollection1623
@itubecollection1623 4 жыл бұрын
Smart answer otherwise he'd change his name in Ali Fury next morning
@FrankLucas-pw5hs
@FrankLucas-pw5hs 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, I think Fury's just got a point. All the newer generations are eventually better than the older, because of advancements in biology, supplements and even boxing technique. Our era is the last generation, where technique can't really be improved upon - because with the internet, we can see that every style has finally been tried on world stage.
@legendovbago4716
@legendovbago4716 4 жыл бұрын
@@FrankLucas-pw5hs better than older regimes,, cmon i would watch Ali vs frazer every Day without getting bored but cant watch Fury Vs Wilder or fury vs Joshua every Day, their styles are too soft for 80s class
@w14lee
@w14lee 4 жыл бұрын
Itube Collection 😂brilliant
@whiskeyshots7378
@whiskeyshots7378 4 жыл бұрын
I love arguing this over with friends, it could really go either way. Ali was so smart and such a great boxer and on the other hand Tyson was just an absolute wrecking machine. If Tyson were to win it would be within 2 or 3 rounds, but if the fight went into later rounds Ali would win.
@kunalsethi7192
@kunalsethi7192 4 жыл бұрын
Finally some reasonable statement, all others here are just Ali fanboys smh
@adibsiddiki7409
@adibsiddiki7409 4 жыл бұрын
@@kunalsethi7192 Nah, I just can't imagine anyone knocking out Ali in his prime, especially in the first few rounds. Much lesser boxers survived those early rounds against Tyson so I can't imagine Ali not doing the same with his superior foot work, chin and head movement
@benrobbo2902
@benrobbo2902 3 жыл бұрын
@@kunalsethi7192 tysons barely makes top 10 heavyweights ali is the greatest lmao its the tyson tanboys that are delysional tyson lost to a journeyman buster douglas whem he was in his 20s lmao and lost to every good fighter he fought
@benrobbo2902
@benrobbo2902 3 жыл бұрын
@@kunalsethi7192 to compare hem in a video like this is legitamately a joke
@RazorEdge2006
@RazorEdge2006 3 жыл бұрын
Prime Tyson couldn't KO James Tillis, who was basically a cheap, slow, Ali wannabe. Imagine if that was the real Ali, who had blinding speed, footwork and reflexes. Tyson wouldn't be able to land a clean hit. And even if Tyson did manage to somehow land a clean hit, it wouldn't phase Ali, who had an iron chin and took bigger shots from harder punchers like Foreman and Shavers. There's just no way for prime Tyson to win against a prime Ali.
@PlayingCryptic
@PlayingCryptic 4 жыл бұрын
“ Every head must bow and every tongue must confess… he's the greatest fighter God has ever created. “ - Mike Tyson to Muhammad Ali
@abeedal-rashid4263
@abeedal-rashid4263 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@babyting8072
@babyting8072 4 жыл бұрын
And may I humbly add...not just a great fighter but an even greater human being🙏 RIP Greatest of all time champ
@AzizurRahman-gd3zf
@AzizurRahman-gd3zf 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson made that comment on the Arsenio Hall show with Muhammad Ali it was two legends giving and showing respect 👊🏾
@joshuaescoto1029
@joshuaescoto1029 4 жыл бұрын
❤️
@itsZukka
@itsZukka 4 жыл бұрын
Ali said Tyson wild beat him
@kazimiqbal8606
@kazimiqbal8606 4 жыл бұрын
Alis chin was incredible all though he got knocked down a few times in his career he was never KO'd despite fighting the biggest punchers
@H.K.5
@H.K.5 4 жыл бұрын
2nd best chin in history after George Chuvalo.
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 4 жыл бұрын
That's cause those big punchers never landed flush.
@pokerclown7922
@pokerclown7922 4 жыл бұрын
Technically although a far inferior boxer Henry Cooper did nigh on ko him, and there was some shady stuff that went on with his glove to buy him time but in the end the right man won
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 4 жыл бұрын
@@pokerclown7922 Had Dundee not cheated by enlarging a tear on Ali's glove and giving him smelling salts (which were illegal), Cooper would have win by KO.
@pokerclown7922
@pokerclown7922 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Trumph absolutely, cooper should’ve won this fight.
@ChubbyChecker182
@ChubbyChecker182 4 жыл бұрын
Ali in his prime wasn't actually boxing for 3 years.
@Gerbildo123456789
@Gerbildo123456789 4 жыл бұрын
1966-67 is prime Ali.
@bauple4288
@bauple4288 4 жыл бұрын
Gerbildo123456789 yeah his prime could’ve lasted longer if he didn’t get his licence taken
@newman7151
@newman7151 4 жыл бұрын
@@bauple4288 people compare tyson to ali. ali had to fight his whole prime outside the ring. he didnt train in that time. lost partly his agility after 1970
@bauple4288
@bauple4288 4 жыл бұрын
Kubat Altu yeah 100%
@sambeezy007
@sambeezy007 4 жыл бұрын
@@newman7151 basically the question should be Tyson Vs. Clay
@anthonyking5414
@anthonyking5414 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson at his prime was like nothing Ali ever experienced. Tyson was an amazing pressure fighter, equaled Ali’s hand speed, had twice as much power and the thing everyone negates about Tyson was his ring craft. Tyson was an amazing technical boxer with an incredible gift of obscene power and speed.
@Jonas-ti1py
@Jonas-ti1py 4 жыл бұрын
Plus wasn't Mike's peekaboo style designed to fight a long, rangey fighter like Ali?
@JosephAliDeeb
@JosephAliDeeb 4 жыл бұрын
The one fighter that comes close to Tyson is Frazier that Ali fought.
@ملككاتلونيا
@ملككاتلونيا 4 жыл бұрын
@@JosephAliDeeb and Ali never won over Friazer obviously
@heinzbeans2965
@heinzbeans2965 4 жыл бұрын
ملك كاتلونيا Frazier v Ali 1: Frazier wins, Ali comes back and wins twice against Frazier
@somedude3977
@somedude3977 4 жыл бұрын
Difference is Tyson didn’t have heart like Frazier
@jaybest1787
@jaybest1787 4 жыл бұрын
I go for Ali based on his track record. He defeated KO specialists such as Liston, Foreman, Lyle and even the feared Ernie Shavers.
@ronbonora7872
@ronbonora7872 4 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@ronbonora7872
@ronbonora7872 4 жыл бұрын
@KILLING⚡HEROS who cares Tyson lost to Buster Douglas and some other stiffs. LOL
@robertrodriguez787
@robertrodriguez787 4 жыл бұрын
@KILLING⚡HEROS And your forgetting Smokin Joe Frazier a man that hit like a mule
@dannysart3990
@dannysart3990 4 жыл бұрын
I love Ali, but Ali had trouble with Frazier and Mike had a similar style.
@JomoDaMusicMan
@JomoDaMusicMan 4 жыл бұрын
QUARRY KO'ed Ernie Shavers in 1st rd, and Jimmy Young beat him also
@woodybop129
@woodybop129 4 жыл бұрын
*got eem*
@utoresa5193
@utoresa5193 4 жыл бұрын
Holyfield:Yeah yeah who's gonna give me an ear?
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295
@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 4 жыл бұрын
Holyfield: I'm the undisputed Headbut champion of all time
@woggles8100
@woggles8100 4 жыл бұрын
These guys all have brain damage, we cannot trust their judgement
@dochvtech22
@dochvtech22 4 жыл бұрын
Look up Gene kim
@ralphchristianmarcelo6493
@ralphchristianmarcelo6493 4 жыл бұрын
can't hear
@ilikehumans1096
@ilikehumans1096 4 жыл бұрын
Ali and Tyson loved each other, Tyson looking up to Ali as a father figure and Ali seeing Tyson as his protégé/son. They would never fight.
@kitmh_football8018
@kitmh_football8018 4 жыл бұрын
Not true
@rtm7360
@rtm7360 4 жыл бұрын
But if they where both in their prime. They wouldnt have a kind of father son relationship
@chudiksc
@chudiksc 4 жыл бұрын
Never
@aamirarafat3697
@aamirarafat3697 4 жыл бұрын
I think the same bro😊👍
@nicholascauton9648
@nicholascauton9648 4 жыл бұрын
“I’m vain, I know I’m great. But every head must bow, every tongue must profess, this is the greatest of all time.” - Mike Tyson to Muhammad Ali.
@haulem
@haulem 4 жыл бұрын
No one has ever seen either man at their peak. Ali was stripped of his title and not allowed to fight for almost 4 years during his peak. Tyson was in prison during his peak years. When Ali met Frazier during their first meeting, Frazier was at his peak and Ali was already beginning to slide downhill slowly. The greatest testament to Ali's talents was the fact that he continued to be the dominant presence and won championships in the heavyweight division throughout the 70's, when in fact his prime was in the 60's.
@kyleb8672
@kyleb8672 2 жыл бұрын
Tyson reacted his peak because of prison because the only thing he did was train and work out in there so when he came out he was a monster
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 2 жыл бұрын
@@kyleb8672 ...Until he fought Holyfield!
@amogoose2971
@amogoose2971 Жыл бұрын
ali beat frazier 2 times after that
@zackblack8118
@zackblack8118 4 жыл бұрын
“ I am great i know that but in this situation every heads must bow, every tongue must confess this is the greatest of all time”- Mike Tyson on Ali
@Sparkchaser1
@Sparkchaser1 4 жыл бұрын
That’s not the same as saying “Ali would win”😬
@RazorEdge2006
@RazorEdge2006 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sparkchaser1 Tyson has repeatedly said that Ali would win. He knows his own limitations better than anyone else.
@Sparkchaser1
@Sparkchaser1 3 жыл бұрын
@@RazorEdge2006 and those limitations were......?
@RazorEdge2006
@RazorEdge2006 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sparkchaser1 Ali has faster jabs, quicker reflexes, better footwork, tougher chin, taller height, longer reach, greater stamina, higher durability, etc. There's nothing that prime Tyson could do to phase prime Ali.
@Sparkchaser1
@Sparkchaser1 3 жыл бұрын
@@RazorEdge2006 he was taller with a longer reach, just like every boxer Tyson beat. But the rest....you’d never beat Tyson with your jab. Footwork? Debateable. Reflexes, I concur. Stamina goes to Tyson, along with power and chin.
@arsenal-slr9552
@arsenal-slr9552 4 жыл бұрын
"Ali" -Mike Tyson
@RawliglatX
@RawliglatX 4 жыл бұрын
"Tyson" - Ali (ps: it's called being humble)
@utoresa5193
@utoresa5193 4 жыл бұрын
@@RawliglatX it's called being a legend that knows what respect is
@anaesthesia1549
@anaesthesia1549 4 жыл бұрын
Mike had the power but where could he have discharged his power if his target kept moving all the time? Ultimately he would exhaust and succumb to Ali.
@anaesthesia1549
@anaesthesia1549 4 жыл бұрын
James Vergil Prime Ali would hardly let anybody touch him. And prime Mike had no experience of going beyond few rounds.
@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi
@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi 4 жыл бұрын
Conveniently forgetting Ali said the reverse eh?
@pab702
@pab702 4 жыл бұрын
We will never know the answer to this question. We can only speculate. My heart would pick Ali, but my money would pick Tyson.
@MrShitBag
@MrShitBag 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. Those uppercuts would have devastated Ali over a few rounds.
@dirtyjew1974
@dirtyjew1974 4 жыл бұрын
I'm on the fence, there's reasons as to why either could win
@dirtyjew1974
@dirtyjew1974 4 жыл бұрын
@greenmean1 not to sure, a 185lb Henry Cooper who wasnt known as a big puncher almost stopped Ali in the 60s in the 4th round with a left hook. He was smaller, weaker, slower and less powerful than Tyson so lets imagine tyson catching him with that left hook instead. No so sure it would work out to good for Ali. Tyson definatly had a shot.
@sanjaykakurla4256
@sanjaykakurla4256 4 жыл бұрын
@@dirtyjew1974 But u see he survived an entire round of sonny Liston battering him by he was blind
@sanjaykakurla4256
@sanjaykakurla4256 4 жыл бұрын
@@dirtyjew1974 Ali would have whopped him worse than buster Douglas did
@stevebailey5591
@stevebailey5591 4 жыл бұрын
Both fighters had a layoff of several years during their prime. Both then resumed their careers in a heavyweight era that was stronger than the competitive field they'd left. Of the two only Ali went on to dominate his era even post his prime (ie - post the 1970 comeback) - he was unified champion in the seventies and he beat everyone. Tyson didn't manage the same thing in the nineties.
@swadey2.017
@swadey2.017 3 жыл бұрын
Tyson got knocked out before he went to prison
@rahulmishra800
@rahulmishra800 Жыл бұрын
Ali wins hands down...... Tyson just can't beat Ali......
@greengunner4749
@greengunner4749 4 жыл бұрын
Ali could adapt to anyones style, he's been in wars with the best and he beat the best.
@o.al3mrey291
@o.al3mrey291 4 жыл бұрын
He beat the best when he wasn't even in his prime.
@zechrojas2202
@zechrojas2202 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly think that Tyson wouldn't have been able to touch Ali. His reach, speed, and elusiveness would have kept Tyson on the outside.
@GearHedd
@GearHedd 4 жыл бұрын
Adapting to a style is one thing. Adapting to a 19 year old Tyson throwing bombs and moving like a welterweight... He just overhwhelmed people with pure raw physical traits. Hard to adapt to that...
@SuperUltraSugarShit
@SuperUltraSugarShit 4 жыл бұрын
The best have also beat him Ali was good at comming back from a defeat
@vcn9936
@vcn9936 4 жыл бұрын
Green Gunner he was the best no question
@mjjohnson9925
@mjjohnson9925 4 жыл бұрын
The seeds of Ali's victory would be planted as soon as the fight was announced. First, Mike had most of his opponents terrified before the fight started. If Liston and Foreman couldn't do it, Mike couldn't either. 2nd, Ali was a master of mental warfare, something Mike showed weakness in. He'd taunt the sanity out of Mike. So Ali '67 vs Tyson '88? I do see fireworks earlier and Mike may even hurt Ali early but as the fight settles, Ali's legs, fortitude and determination would show. A frustrated Mike either gets beat up or does something erratic to end the fight. Ali TKO 10
@therealFMG
@therealFMG 4 жыл бұрын
Ali could take a beating, his jab was too sick as well and he'd tiree him out
@mattkylie6723
@mattkylie6723 4 жыл бұрын
Ali never fought anyone who was as quick as himself if not quicker and with power to match!!!
@masudsalim9877
@masudsalim9877 4 жыл бұрын
matt kylie he fought foreman and toyed with him and foreman is a bigger puncher than tyson for sure
@therealFMG
@therealFMG 4 жыл бұрын
@@masudsalim9877 I agree with the fact that he toyed with foreman, whether foreman was a bigger puncher than Mike is another debate
@mattkylie6723
@mattkylie6723 4 жыл бұрын
Cryer24597 Patterson was not as fast as Ali or Tyson, they did a punch combo time stat!!! my point is Ali never fought anyone who was as fast as he was if not faster, both head movement and punch agility!!! the punch stat was based upon video footage which can’t lie.
@imadeyoureadthis1500
@imadeyoureadthis1500 4 жыл бұрын
Cryer24597 Patterson was nowhere near as good as Tyson, plus Patterson was 38 when he lost to Ali
@azr_Ħ
@azr_Ħ 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Ali wasn’t in jail and trained.
@bersanderdiyok1247
@bersanderdiyok1247 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Tyson wasn’t in jail
@boogeymann6686
@boogeymann6686 4 жыл бұрын
Ali never went to jail
@yungswish4588
@yungswish4588 4 жыл бұрын
Boogey MANN he was exiled but at least he came back and beat people like foreman .
@SA77888
@SA77888 4 жыл бұрын
?????????
@hhexiee5021
@hhexiee5021 4 жыл бұрын
Boogey MANN he was in prison for five years
@boxerkhan7053
@boxerkhan7053 4 жыл бұрын
No heavyweight in history moved like Ali especially before the layoff he was untouchable and even the one that returned always found a way. Tyson would get frustrated and fall short.
@geedee1264
@geedee1264 4 жыл бұрын
'frustrated' is an understatement
@doedoebird6614
@doedoebird6614 4 жыл бұрын
after 3 or 4 rounds Mike would gas out. he never really was dangerous when fights went the distance
@realhamonwry8620
@realhamonwry8620 4 жыл бұрын
Just stop. Tyson would obliterate Ali in two. Easily.
@doedoebird6614
@doedoebird6614 4 жыл бұрын
Amadeus XLO Ali has a hell of chin and Tyson doesn’t..reach plays an advantage...that’s why Lennox Lewis beat Tyson badly because of reach....learn boxing don’t be biased
@bowjana8128
@bowjana8128 4 жыл бұрын
Ali all day would beat him anytime Tyson stepped up to a Lewis or holyfield he got beat so Ali for me
@andyhayes6817
@andyhayes6817 4 жыл бұрын
"Everybodys got a plan till they get hit". I love that line
@EinsteinKnowedIt
@EinsteinKnowedIt 4 жыл бұрын
Iron Mike was a genius with his quotes. This is my favorite. I'd rather hear him speak than to listen to holyfield for 3 seconds. However, I'd much rather see holyfields correct style of fighting.
@calbo555
@calbo555 4 жыл бұрын
Ali never gets hit in prime :)
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 2 жыл бұрын
Andy Hayes ...Buster Douglas also loved that line.
@sayyid5869
@sayyid5869 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine the 64 Ali in the 70s against Norton,Frazier,Forrman,Holmes,Lyle,spinks. Ali was the greatest heavyweight of all time. Sugar Ray Robinson was p4p best but Ali at that size was another level in his prime.
@gabydicu
@gabydicu 4 жыл бұрын
Spinks was a boom
@sayyid5869
@sayyid5869 4 жыл бұрын
gabyx66 But he could knock us both out in under 10 seconds haha.
@Brotherhood-pp4tf
@Brotherhood-pp4tf 4 жыл бұрын
No real such thing as the best of all time, as there are so many great boxers, it's literally impossible to determine.
@gabydicu
@gabydicu 4 жыл бұрын
@@sayyid5869 maybe a round,just maybe.spinks was cruiser weight,absolute rubbish boxer
@sayyid5869
@sayyid5869 4 жыл бұрын
gabyx66 No i was just stating because of the upset of how he beat Ali, if it was 64 Ali he would be chasing a ghost and getting embrassed same with Holmes.
@ck552
@ck552 4 жыл бұрын
I think Ali would have him beat psychologically before the fight even started.
@francisozoagu1879
@francisozoagu1879 4 жыл бұрын
🧢
@mann-etv
@mann-etv 4 жыл бұрын
That's a dam lie. Tyson will hit him so hard he would not last.
@ck552
@ck552 4 жыл бұрын
@@mann-etv Earnie Shavers and George Foreman couldn't knock him out, and they hit just as hard as Tyson. Shavers probably hit even harder actually.
@Zero-jd4uz
@Zero-jd4uz 3 жыл бұрын
@@mann-etv people hit Ali harder than Tyson could hit, and the chances of Tyson even hitting Ali are so damn low Muhammad Ali would simply be too fast
@thedevilman.
@thedevilman. 3 жыл бұрын
@@ck552 "Shavers probably hit even harder actually" 😭 my guy just stop
@anandh2110
@anandh2110 4 жыл бұрын
Muhammad Ali - He is the greatest..He said that even before he becomes the greatest
@cmguerrero2008
@cmguerrero2008 4 жыл бұрын
I’d say Tyson. There wouldn’t be enough money to convince me to get in the ring with Tyson. I’d be terrified.
@cmguerrero2008
@cmguerrero2008 4 жыл бұрын
Jam I’m not Mexican but if I was I still don’t get your point dude.
@giandeleon1711
@giandeleon1711 4 жыл бұрын
Ray MASSIH yea it feels like he shows mercy
@donstanley9943
@donstanley9943 4 жыл бұрын
For a couple mil, I would not only take a beating from Tyson, but would let him and Holifield tag team me till I dropped. Would probably take less than 20 seconds.
@garyengland9549
@garyengland9549 4 жыл бұрын
I'd fight him for 100 grand . I'd be having a nice snooze after 20 seconds . Nice hospital food . Nice new teeth . It's all gravy baby
@karimchaffai5922
@karimchaffai5922 4 жыл бұрын
@@garyengland9549 some nice brain damage aswell
@BeefheartLynch
@BeefheartLynch 4 жыл бұрын
I've wrestled with this question so many times over the years. And ask me right now, I go with Ali. Ali's speed, jab, and mind games would prevail. Taking nothing from Tyson, ask me tomorrow and I probably pick him. But Ali had it all. Speed, toughness, ring smarts, defense and incredible timing. Ali gets the TKO in Round 9.
@Aj-ik2yd
@Aj-ik2yd 4 жыл бұрын
A prime Tyson could knockout anyone Also no one could knockout a prime Ali
@mohammedfares5509
@mohammedfares5509 3 жыл бұрын
That is the best argument I heard. 🐐 comment.
@jordangroff8978
@jordangroff8978 2 жыл бұрын
I mean technically no one could knockout or even knockdown a prime Tyson (86-88) either...
@EnclosedPoolArea
@EnclosedPoolArea 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordangroff8978 Because prime Tyson fought nobody. Tyson was a big fish in a small pond. Ali was a killer whale in a sea.
@machetejunior3819
@machetejunior3819 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordangroff8978 Ya but tyson wasn't fighting Sonny Liston, Joe frazier, Ken Norton or George foreman (who was a more powerful fighter then Tyson)
@jordangroff8978
@jordangroff8978 2 жыл бұрын
@@machetejunior3819 I don't believe for one second that Liston, Norton, Frazier, or Foreman (he'd be the only one with a chance) would beat a 86-88 Tyson
@annrambo3878
@annrambo3878 4 жыл бұрын
Prime on prime I say Ali but Mike would give him hell !!
@joshdot4602
@joshdot4602 4 жыл бұрын
Ali would not beat tyson 😂😂 tyson would get on the inside of him and one combination he'd knock Ali out, tyson has fought alot tougher opponents then Ali, people don't like admitting it.
@quawey5703
@quawey5703 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshdot4602 if he could touch ali
@usersjs19
@usersjs19 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshdot4602 lol im a fan of tyson but bruh not a single punch of tyson will connect to ali
@Kembo-h3r
@Kembo-h3r 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshdot4602 name tougher opponents Tyson beat then (George foreman, sonny liston, joe Frazier, Earnie shavers and Cleveland Williams) don’t wanna admit what?
@ATATURKdusmanlarininAMK_NJ
@ATATURKdusmanlarininAMK_NJ 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshdot4602 yeah I know that's why he lost to bumb Douglas right lmaoooo
@BW-pc7lv
@BW-pc7lv 4 жыл бұрын
In his prime Tyson was a great boxer. His speed, awkwardness, the way he moved his head. Would've won all his fights without the power. On top of Ali-like boxing skills and movement. He had Foreman-like power. But when he got rid of Rooney and the D'Amato peekaboo philosophy he became just a power puncher. But in his prime he would've been a challenge for Ali. There's no knowing how good Mike could've became if Don King and the other snakes did not come into his life.
@lukepeacham9663
@lukepeacham9663 4 жыл бұрын
BW1994 Brilliantly put
@LondonRoadStudios
@LondonRoadStudios 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree
@thewatcher1950
@thewatcher1950 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson was never a great boxer he was a fearsome box/fighter with super fast hands and a hard punch in both of them,he never had Ali like skills and the good boxers he did come up against took him the distance with one beating him because he was pretty poor going backwards, as to who would win I am a massive Ali fan but I really just could not say it would be close either way.
@BoyDanny93
@BoyDanny93 4 жыл бұрын
@Alex Croton oh shut up!! Tyson became HW champion without the help of Cus. Tyson became champion and went on a winning streak for years AFTER CUS DIED. That excuse is beyond irrelevant.
@geedee1264
@geedee1264 4 жыл бұрын
Ali like skills and foreman like power? Neither of these are true lol, all over romanticised nonsense
@alancalvo2355
@alancalvo2355 4 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna say Tyson at his absolute peak with Cus in his corner totally focused! There was nothing like him!
@TechLinkOnline
@TechLinkOnline 3 жыл бұрын
Really? Foreman regained the HW championship at 45 years old, an old Ali KO'd a prime Foreman, careful there - Ali was the GOAT
@qdontae6
@qdontae6 2 жыл бұрын
Good point 💪
@VeriStrawberi
@VeriStrawberi 2 жыл бұрын
@@TechLinkOnline Tyson's prime was 21-24. He is the youngest Heavyweight Champion ever. A feat no one has trumped in almost 40 years since.
@grinchoi1
@grinchoi1 4 жыл бұрын
Ali has never been knocked out in his entire career and defeated all the greatest heavyweights of his era. Some of the most intimidating boxers of all time with knockout power
@mihai9211
@mihai9211 4 жыл бұрын
He was knocked out by joe frazier
@o.al3mrey291
@o.al3mrey291 4 жыл бұрын
@@mihai9211 Knocked down not knocked out.
@kaidorenji7924
@kaidorenji7924 4 жыл бұрын
@@o.al3mrey291 tyson got knock down but never got knocked out too
@o.al3mrey291
@o.al3mrey291 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaidorenji7924 Except with Buster Douglas
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaidorenji7924 ...Tyson was knocked out, PERIOD!!! Tysonites!!! SMH!!!
@tyroncline5978
@tyroncline5978 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm afraid of that man" -Ali- "Ali begged me not to fight Tyson" -George Foreman-
@irfantariq6981
@irfantariq6981 4 жыл бұрын
Tyron Cline “Every head must bow every tongue must confess this man is the greatest fighter God has ever created.” Mike Tyson to Muhammad Ali
@konnan831
@konnan831 4 жыл бұрын
They respected each other a lot...that usually goes out the window when there's a fight...both were very good at disrespecting their opponents before a fight
@sambeezy007
@sambeezy007 4 жыл бұрын
If I'm correct according to Foreman he was told Tyson was also scared of Foreman and according to Holyfield Foreman has the hardest hands EVER
@rfj1156
@rfj1156 4 жыл бұрын
"If he doesn't die it doesn't count." -Mike Tyson
@RazorEdge2006
@RazorEdge2006 4 жыл бұрын
"When I watch, Tyson, he is good, but he is no Muhammad Ali." - Muhammad Ali
@lifeofkima
@lifeofkima 4 жыл бұрын
My money would be on Ali, he's fought sooo many hard punchers in his prime and way past his prime and was never knocked out. Even if Ali lost, one thing's for sure he'd win a rematch and even a third match
@oliveraherne5547
@oliveraherne5547 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson’s footwork would cause him problems rather than his punching. Tyson has far superior feet to Foreman or Liston.
@SinicizedTurk
@SinicizedTurk 4 жыл бұрын
Against Norton, he was gifted a decision in the third fight, everyone knew the judges robbed Ken. Even Ali admitted that Norton won that third fight. Hell even the second fight was close.
@achmadfaisal4452
@achmadfaisal4452 4 жыл бұрын
Pat Mustard Tyson was scared of Foreman though.
@ninjaman7123
@ninjaman7123 4 жыл бұрын
We never got to see Muhammad Ali's prime. He was in exile during his prime years
@joebarnes100
@joebarnes100 4 жыл бұрын
Ali had the best chin ever in boxing.
@houndofuladh587
@houndofuladh587 4 жыл бұрын
Even Mike would slap ya for picking him over Ali
@itubecollection1623
@itubecollection1623 4 жыл бұрын
Well said hahaa
@JustMe-ws2pe
@JustMe-ws2pe 4 жыл бұрын
That's him being modest
@reoscorpio
@reoscorpio 4 жыл бұрын
@@JustMe-ws2pe truthful modesty
@joshelxiour1404
@joshelxiour1404 4 жыл бұрын
And that the reason Mike is better because he could slap everybody
@juliorosenberg9968
@juliorosenberg9968 4 жыл бұрын
When Marciano fought Joe Lewis after Lewis was retired and out of his Prime. Rocky said, "I never would have won 9--10 years ago 🤔🤔 excellent athletes
@timwilliam9855
@timwilliam9855 4 жыл бұрын
I'd go for a 20yo Tyson. He was a caged beast at that point in his career. I hear what everybody says about heavy punchers, but none of them were as fast as Tyson
@stickthatinyourpipeandsmok2457
@stickthatinyourpipeandsmok2457 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson could knock down a tree.
@robertrodriguez787
@robertrodriguez787 4 жыл бұрын
Again Mike Tyson in his prime never faced a man with the skills and power of a Muhammad Ali
@SA77888
@SA77888 4 жыл бұрын
@Original Prankster If Mike didnt fight anyone of worth.......how did he manage not only to become world champion.........but to become undisputed world champion, linneal champion, ring magazine champion......surely all that cant be achieved by fighting people of no worth? If it were that easy wouldnt we all be doing it?
@stickthatinyourpipeandsmok2457
@stickthatinyourpipeandsmok2457 4 жыл бұрын
@Original Prankster Making them look wooden was testimony to the accuracy of his punches.
@robertrodriguez787
@robertrodriguez787 4 жыл бұрын
@Tutu Flave it's a fact name me one boxer who had Ali power and skills Mike had to face
4 жыл бұрын
Frampton and Gorman make a great points. Ali fought some monsters, including monster punchers. I just always favour the boxer versus the puncher.
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson was not just a puncher, u clueless dummy. Tyson destroys Ali.
@sombremerde
@sombremerde 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaeltrumph121 Tyson lost in 2 rounds LMAO.
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 4 жыл бұрын
@@sombremerde Tyson never lost in 2 rounds, u clueless dummy, not even when he was completely washed up and didn't train at all. And we are comparing prime vs prime here, not who would win when they were both 40.
@Danny-qy9bz
@Danny-qy9bz 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaeltrumph121 ''Tyson was not a puncher'' lol what was he then?.. a featherfist? of course he was a puncher.. and a dangerous puncher to. But Ali had a granite jaw, he was hard to hit but the few times he did get hit his granite jaw absorbed the punches well. Mike Tyson in his prime age 23 was beaten badly and stopped by james douglas.. an incredibly poor mans verison of Ali. He was also smothered beaten up and stopped by an ageing past prime 35 year old holyfeild coming off losses. Ali would of beaten Tyson comfortably..
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 4 жыл бұрын
@@Danny-qy9bz I meant that Tyson was not just a puncher, he was much more than that. It was his skill that set him apart, not just punching power. Tyson was completely unprepared when he faced Douglas. And that was not his prime, his prime ended when he fired Rooney. And that "aging" Holyfield was roided to the gills and lost to a in form Bowe, someone who would have beaten Ali with ease. Holifyeld was match sharp, while Tyson was washed up and half the boxer he used to be. Plus he had barely fought before facing Holyfield. A fully focused and prepared Tyson beats Ali with ease. So do the likes of Bowe, Lewis, Klitschko, Roydifield.
@fahadfarooq7815
@fahadfarooq7815 4 жыл бұрын
The most important thing that differentiates Ali From tyson is character.Ali always toughened up under pressure While Tyson Always cracked under pressure.
@nathanieljames1981
@nathanieljames1981 4 жыл бұрын
True.
@yoryorsmith1695
@yoryorsmith1695 2 жыл бұрын
Ali in his prime is impossible to beat, even tyson acknowledges that
@tonyfas4741
@tonyfas4741 4 жыл бұрын
Reality is, Ali would win, never mind his superior boxing skills, engine and granite chin. His mind tricks would have made tyson UNHINGED, unravel before the fight, tyson wouldn't be able to intimidate Ali which was Tysons trick piece. Tyson punching power was immense but he was no Foreman. It was Tyson speed and agility behind the power that made the knockouts but against Alis ring IQ and reflexes he would still struggle. ALI was special, there could be another tyson but never an Ali.
@ftankfregacalleja6434
@ftankfregacalleja6434 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone that knows something about boxing well said! The only thing that I don't agree with is a doubt there could be another Tyson
@kotekiller123
@kotekiller123 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson would rip him apart
@ftankfregacalleja6434
@ftankfregacalleja6434 4 жыл бұрын
@@kotekiller123 Tyson is overrated in his prime he struggled and went the distance against tucker and bonecrusher then got floored by Buster. None of those guys are nowhere near Ali's level. Ali easily wins this
@joshauroberts7711
@joshauroberts7711 4 жыл бұрын
ftank frega calleja i would say calling Prime Mike overrated is absurd
@ftankfregacalleja6434
@ftankfregacalleja6434 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshauroberts7711 well most people believe prime Tyson is the greatest heavyweight of all time. Reread my previous comment on who went the distance with prime Mike. Plus the fact the only notable win in Tyson's prime was an over the hill washed up Holmes. Like I said extremely overrated
@Tails7212
@Tails7212 4 жыл бұрын
Ali would have won. He was completely fearless with insane reach, speed, agility and technique on his side. He would have outsmarted and frustrated Tyson twice as much as Lennox did.
@CuongNguyen-kz4lv
@CuongNguyen-kz4lv 4 жыл бұрын
The Tyson that fought lennox isn't prime Tyson tho
@johnburke4931
@johnburke4931 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more. In his prime he was the greatest boxer on the planet. I don’t think a lot of these Tyson fan-boys know anything about Ali, or just boxing in general. They see Tyson pull of a fast KO against feeble opponents and think he’s unstoppable.
@iLoveLucy420
@iLoveLucy420 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnburke4931 ugh ali fanboys.lol it's kinda stupid to call some1 a fanboy since your also a fanboy your self since everyone's a fan of something or someone.and they were both so dominant at what they do honestly it could go either way
@johnburke4931
@johnburke4931 4 жыл бұрын
Benefit true, however Ali was dominant in the greatest period in the history of heavyweight boxing. Tyson was dominant in one of the worst periods. Then, in the 90’s when the division started picking up and getting great again, he lost to every decent fighter he fought. I honestly don’t think he could beat Ali in his prime. When Ali lost to Frazier, he lost a closely fought fight by decision, which could be scored either way. He was suffering from severe ring rust and was nowhere near as good as he was in 67. We most likely missed out on his best years as he was banned. In his prime, I’d say he’s the closest thing to unbeatable in heavyweight boxing. Tyson was a great boxer with a good skill set, heavily overrated though. There’s a lot of great heavyweights that would make light work of him, George Foreman being one of them.
@imadeyoureadthis1500
@imadeyoureadthis1500 4 жыл бұрын
Bringing up Lennox is like bringing up holmes
@severusfloki5778
@severusfloki5778 4 жыл бұрын
2:07 At least this man gives an argument
@elbuddy
@elbuddy 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Ali fought in the 60’s and most ppl didn’t see him live and still pick him to win speaks tremendous volumes. It took an Undisputed Champion, 3 year lay off and 15 hard fought rounds in Frazier to hand Ali his first loss…. Just think about that.
@mallyrichards7951
@mallyrichards7951 4 жыл бұрын
Something no ones even mentioning is Ali woulda tore tyson apart in the mental games fight woulda been over before it started
@YouareI-r8q
@YouareI-r8q 4 жыл бұрын
Mally richards Tyson’s mind was unbreakable when Cus was around.
@martinreynolds4973
@martinreynolds4973 4 жыл бұрын
@@YouareI-r8q but he wasnt on Ali's level mentally
@dnimon936
@dnimon936 4 жыл бұрын
dreaming sunshine......mike wouldnt have cared or noticed,,,,,,he would have smashed straight in and wiped the floor with ali
@Mralways
@Mralways 4 жыл бұрын
@ Even Tyson says he'd lose to Ali so maybe take your mouth of his sack? Smh
@yyabdullah8899
@yyabdullah8899 4 жыл бұрын
Prime muhammad ali because he was comfortable with the power and he was the best jabber
@kevinmunday5782
@kevinmunday5782 4 жыл бұрын
Ali could take punches from shavers, liston , foreman , lyle, frazier , no way Tyson is gonna knock him out . Ali forever the greatest.....
@youshouldnot3956
@youshouldnot3956 4 жыл бұрын
When I think about prime ali I realized that most of the people that Ali had trouble with fought him not in his prime. I genuinely think that prime ali is untouchable
@JLeeT21
@JLeeT21 4 жыл бұрын
Ali whooped hard hitters who fought on the inside. Ali was too fast.
@joshuatree5620
@joshuatree5620 4 жыл бұрын
He did get beaten by Joe Frazier,the 1st man to defeat Ali.but we'll just forget about the fight of the century.
@sierramtmist1911
@sierramtmist1911 4 жыл бұрын
Joshua Tree. And he heavily relied on the clinch in there second fight.
@JLeeT21
@JLeeT21 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuatree5620 post prison. If it was his prime there would be no contest
@antapps
@antapps 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, but Tyson was very similar to Joe Frazier but faster, more movement and hit way harder. So I don't know in terms of greatness and competition, but in a purely stylistical perspective, I would lean towards Tyson. Ali fought Frazier post prison, but Tyson was Frazier on rocket fuel🤣
@duramax78
@duramax78 4 жыл бұрын
Antony jose george 92 this is the best comment on this video.
@Shaq756
@Shaq756 4 жыл бұрын
Ali used the full ring in his fight, Tyson would not be able to move in like he did in his early days, he may have landed a few knock out blows but Ali would have brushed them off mind over matter, look at Ali vs Frazier 1, the punch Frazier threw in the final round would have knocked out anyone, while Ali got back up a shook his head,
@rodplays3726
@rodplays3726 2 жыл бұрын
Looking it up right now
@zechwilson5934
@zechwilson5934 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought Frazier vs Tyson would of been a good match up
@dawb86
@dawb86 4 жыл бұрын
It would've been Hagler-Hearns for the heavyweight division...
@davidmorel373
@davidmorel373 4 жыл бұрын
No way. Like father like son. And Tyson took that boy on a journey across the Milky Way.
@rocketguardian2001
@rocketguardian2001 4 жыл бұрын
I'd honestly be afraid that one of them would die.
@eesahussain5515
@eesahussain5515 4 жыл бұрын
Zech Wilson nah the reason Ali lost was because he was really old but still boxed Ali would have easily won if he was young Er
@nieczerwony
@nieczerwony 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson would have wiped out Frazier. Bigger power, lot greater speed and more lunch varieties. Frazier had good left Hook and that's it.
@spinningdogsc
@spinningdogsc 4 жыл бұрын
Ali Beat a wide array of legends, PAST his prime. Whenever he showed flashes of his prime, dancing in those fights, it was obvious he was untouchable in those moments or rounds. I think Prime Ali honestly can’t lose to anybody. I love Tyson but man i look at how he handled a Prime Frazier, past his prime, and it makes me think it could deffinitely be a tough fight, even in Ali’s prime but it goes to Ali
@kimmolaine8069
@kimmolaine8069 Жыл бұрын
Tyson 1986-1990 however was nothing that Ali ever experienced. Tyson was ahead of Frazier in every regard in the ring, except heart. I'm still picking Ali but it's very close to 50/50.
@MichaelCorleone_
@MichaelCorleone_ 4 жыл бұрын
Muhammad Ali was willing to die in the ring while Mike was just trying to prove something to his coach, the world, and himself.
@KingJachai
@KingJachai 4 жыл бұрын
Bullshit Ali wanted Dundee to cut his gloves off in Thrilla in Manila.
@joshuatree5620
@joshuatree5620 4 жыл бұрын
@@KingJachai the point was,Tyson could never match Ali's heart.Tyson would not have survived Thrilla in Manilla.
@الياسغالب-خ8ز
@الياسغالب-خ8ز 4 жыл бұрын
@@KingJachai he said that was the closest he's ever felt to dying I don't blame him.
@KingJachai
@KingJachai 4 жыл бұрын
He also wanted to quit against Cooper after he got knocked down الياس غلب
@aviv1002
@aviv1002 4 жыл бұрын
the willingness to live is stronger than the willingness to die
@yasu4257
@yasu4257 4 жыл бұрын
It’s so hard my heart keeps saying Ali would win but my mind keeps saying tyson
@simonnolan2063
@simonnolan2063 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson all the way, he was the greatest prime fighter ever as far as I’m concerned
@C-Jay7
@C-Jay7 4 жыл бұрын
Ye
@gdaym8635
@gdaym8635 4 жыл бұрын
Simon NolaN ali was better.
@skisky3
@skisky3 4 жыл бұрын
@@gdaym8635 nah mike was better.
@joshuatree5620
@joshuatree5620 4 жыл бұрын
@@skisky3 everyime tyson stepped up He Got Flattened,Holyfield,Lewis,Douglas.Everyrime Ali stepped up he won.Liston,Foreman,Frazier.
@haydenbonat1042
@haydenbonat1042 4 жыл бұрын
All these pro boxers are saying Ali would win and so did Mike Tyson this clearly shows they have more experience being in the ring and the different emotions they face when fighting
@Narration___Nation
@Narration___Nation 2 жыл бұрын
Muhumid Ali and sugar ray Robinson said sugar ray Lenard would beat Duran. He didn’t tho
@Mankind-ik4ie
@Mankind-ik4ie 4 жыл бұрын
Ali! Ali! Ali!
@samuelbrown1
@samuelbrown1 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I think Mike in his prime would stop Ali because although Muhammad’s movement to float around the ring was great, I think Mike would slowly creep up on him and open up but it would definitely be a big struggle and would go the rounds👍🥊
@danielraynolds9502
@danielraynolds9502 Жыл бұрын
Well if Tyson fought ali of 1965 he would of lost. Ali was alot faster I'm the 1960,s around the ring. Too slick.
@isaacsantos9186
@isaacsantos9186 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson is very similar in style to Joe Frasier, who beat Ali once and lost to him twice. However Tyson is certainly a more formidable puncher than Frasier so that might close the gap a little bit.
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson is twice as good as Frasier, he destroys Ali with ease.
@marincosong909
@marincosong909 4 жыл бұрын
@Great Lakes delusional idiot
@guillaumefrancois3942
@guillaumefrancois3942 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaeltrumph121, I agree.
@guillaumefrancois3942
@guillaumefrancois3942 4 жыл бұрын
Ali was very hittable. Mike would have him for cake.
@habibhussain1808
@habibhussain1808 4 жыл бұрын
@@guillaumefrancois3942 not in his prime. He was untouchable in his prime Mike would be swinging air.
@KidChardonnay
@KidChardonnay 4 жыл бұрын
IQ, Speed, Footwork and mentality goes to Ali, he KOs Tyson between the 6th-8th
@flyingpuma9729
@flyingpuma9729 4 жыл бұрын
Prime Ali had no Problem whatsoever to deal with hard hitting explosive fighters. They were toys for him. Just watch the fight with sonny liston, he moved like a lightweight, with 95 kg. His reflexes were literally superhuman.
@razwanakhan7748
@razwanakhan7748 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is i would say Mike Tyson in his prime had the unbelievable speed and not many top Heavywights had his speed and punch power it was either one or other.
@Icyhotboo
@Icyhotboo 4 жыл бұрын
Ali was the only HW that had something for everybody looking through the history of HW boxing. He beat the punchers, the boxer's, and those that had both. GOAT
@StevieRevbo
@StevieRevbo 4 жыл бұрын
"Mike didn't fight the Foremans, Liston etc" well he fought Holyfield
@ilhamsyamsul1067
@ilhamsyamsul1067 4 жыл бұрын
Rajah O'bagal Foreman gave Holyfield hell of a match at a very old age. Imagine if he fought prime Foreman?
@iforgor7883
@iforgor7883 4 жыл бұрын
@@ilhamsyamsul1067 holyfield would be out r2
@soap7794
@soap7794 4 жыл бұрын
@@iforgor7883 Not really
@juliomenoyo4989
@juliomenoyo4989 4 жыл бұрын
mike in his prime is considered “greatness”
@millioneyegaming237
@millioneyegaming237 2 жыл бұрын
Ali in his prime was considered 'greatest'
@honestyfenix530
@honestyfenix530 4 жыл бұрын
After seeing how Ali (not in his prime AND OLD) beat Foreman (in his prime), I have no doubt Ali would have won. He had the Determination to win, and WAS NOT A BIT AFRAID of Foreman: important b/c this allowed him to think clearly. And Ali COULD TAKE a lot of punches! Let's face it: Tyson could have never beaten George Foreman. Tyson had the problem lions have. They have a very strong but heavy muscle mass. After 3 or 4 rounds they get tired and lose power in their punch. To beat Ali he would have had to knock him out in the first 3-4 rounds and THAT would have been unlikely due to Ali's smarts, speed and ability to take hard punches.
@elpedrino01
@elpedrino01 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson had a style much more like joe Frazier. Frazier beat Ali...............Tyson was faster and hit harder with both hands. Your boy George Foreman stated he wanted nothing to do with Tyson and ducked fighting him. Tyson did not have too much muscle, he was built to fight much like a pit bull.
@danielogunlana6118
@danielogunlana6118 4 жыл бұрын
elpedrino01 no way Tyson catching prime Ali
@elpedrino01
@elpedrino01 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Ogunlana prime Tyson was way faster than prime Ali.
@honestyfenix530
@honestyfenix530 4 жыл бұрын
@@elpedrino01 Ok. And Foreman was faster, bigger, stronger and much younger than Ali, and still lost. Ali outsmarted his rivals. He was an intelligent man and also a good man. He never hurt anyone, he fought to win, never to hurt or destroy.
@elpedrino01
@elpedrino01 4 жыл бұрын
James Brice please share a shred of evidence showing that Tyson ducked Foreman. The only interview that I can find is Big George stating he wanted no piece of iron mike. Try and keep your comments somewhat relevant and intelligent.
@berhane71
@berhane71 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson said “I know I’m great but in this situation every head must bow and every mouth must confess he’s (Mohammed) the greatest fighter of all time”
@freemoable
@freemoable 4 жыл бұрын
Both in thier respective primes.... this question has made my mind explode LOL
@TruthSeekerAll
@TruthSeekerAll 4 жыл бұрын
Ali was an all rounded boxer, a complete and supreme specimen that the world has ever seen. He can brawl, he can bang and he can adapt to any style. Even tyson’s. So In their primes I would go with Ali.
@denissssss8579
@denissssss8579 4 жыл бұрын
Ali simply the best! DESERVED!
@paulberesford9360
@paulberesford9360 3 жыл бұрын
In his prime, Tyson was a brutal puncher who was generally considered to be invincible, but so were both Sonny Liston and George Foreman....
@OtomoTenzi
@OtomoTenzi 2 жыл бұрын
Both neither of them were quite as fast as Tyson, and his punching power is at least comparable to Liston's... 🤔
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 2 жыл бұрын
@@OtomoTenzi ...False!
@davidwalter2002
@davidwalter2002 4 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with what seems to be the majority in this video: Ali in his prime would beat Tyson in his prime. No disrespect to Iron Mike, but I see him as a fighter more in the mold of Liston and Foreman -- fighters with very hard fists. But Ali was a technician; a practitioner of the Sweet Science, and, just as he beat Liston and Foreman, he would adjust, he would change on a dime, he would analyze as each round progressed, and he would ultimately prevail. Ali wasn't bragging when he called himself The Greatest.
@m17jr-m
@m17jr-m 2 жыл бұрын
Mike tyson prime would beat ali prime, ali the goat tho
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 2 жыл бұрын
@@m17jr-m ...False!
@Panchkula007
@Panchkula007 3 жыл бұрын
I just feel Ali would win because of experience, calmness and mind games !!!
@nathancooper6589
@nathancooper6589 4 жыл бұрын
Ali was so good at adapting his style to his oppenent. He also had unreal skills such has, speed, endurance, toughness, focusness, intelligence, good reflexes, fitness and all out pure boxing skill. But it only takes a deadly combo from mike.... it depends if he ever land on ali and if ali would get up if he did land. But i'd put my money on ali cause i believe he beat all styles of fighters pritty easily and that was when he wasnt in his prime. Also i dont think mike would ever land clean on ali and i if he did i think ali would get back up.
@Timmypup
@Timmypup 4 жыл бұрын
The weight classes have changed over the years, but I’d give it to Tyson. He had a way of getting inside of all long reach fighters which came down to brute force an fearlessness.
@Timmypup
@Timmypup 4 жыл бұрын
Bob Allen Unfortunately we’ll never know. Ali also lost some fights he shouldn’t have.
@irfantariq6981
@irfantariq6981 4 жыл бұрын
Ian Comerford so did Tyson got KO by Lewis and Lower caliber fighters
@Timmypup
@Timmypup 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny Abbt that’s what I was saying about. All fighters lose fights they shouldn’t. We’ll never know. The weight classes are different anyway and there are so many variables, hence why fighters win twice out of three and vice versus against the same opponent.
@LouieOcean2
@LouieOcean2 4 жыл бұрын
Ali would take a beating early but he was the toughest he’s not getting knocked out. The fight would end up like the rumble in the jungle
@niekoelen4355
@niekoelen4355 4 жыл бұрын
Rumble in the jungle wasn't prime Ali. Prime Ali was before he lost his boxing license. The version of him who came close to perfection on the night when he destroyed Cleveland Williams wouldn't even need the rope a dope to beat Foreman.
@revenant9277
@revenant9277 4 жыл бұрын
It is interesting because they were 2 fundamentally different fighters. Mike likely had more brute punching power and would work his way in to find the right angles to get in your face as much as possible where as Ali was so elusive and would wait for the opponent to make a mistake or for the right moment to inflict a flurry of punches. Lots to consider
@TheKassidy01
@TheKassidy01 4 жыл бұрын
We didn't even experience ALI in his prime, and he was still that good
@slingbladejeff
@slingbladejeff 4 жыл бұрын
THE GREATEST WINS.
@scabab90
@scabab90 4 жыл бұрын
Prime Mike Tyson never beat anyone of any worth, just second tier opposition. Even the faded Ali beat better opposition than Tyson ever did.
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson's opponents were far better than the weak bums Ali faced.
@scabab90
@scabab90 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaeltrumph121 The only good people Tyson ever fought he lost too. He lost to Holyfield and Lewis and never fought Bowe or Foreman. The best person Tyson ever beat was a 39 year old Holmes and the light heavyweight Spinks.
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 4 жыл бұрын
@@scabab90 Tyson was washed up when he lost to the roided cheat Holyfield and when he lost to Lewis. Ali beat slow bums. Tyson wins with ease.
@harveydodd8803
@harveydodd8803 4 жыл бұрын
@Michael Trumph Tyson was 30 when he fought Holyfield. Holyfield had a tougher time with George Foreman who was in his late 40s. Ali beat Foreman when he was a mean killing machine and beat him (and that was well past Ali’s prime). Tyson wouldn’t have bear prime Foreman, much less Prime Ali. And Frazier at his best was better than Holyfield or Lennox Lewis. Tyson is not in Ali’s league.
@Danny-qy9bz
@Danny-qy9bz 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaeltrumph121 Holyfeild was 35 year old washed up, inactive and coming off losses when he smashed tyson, tyson was closer to his prime then holyfeild was. also lewis was old and literally at the very end of his career when he destroyed tyson with ease. Lewis was not in his prime either. James Douglas was 30 years old when he made 23 year old tyson look like an AMATUER. So u can't use prime as an excuse for ANY of his losses.
@ryanmccarthy8625
@ryanmccarthy8625 4 жыл бұрын
Regardless of the outcome, a fight between those two would've been an all-out war in the ring. Both were lightning-quick with their respective styles but Mike was definitely more powerful and aggressive. Then again, Ali was very durable and tactful.
@CultureBoxing
@CultureBoxing 4 жыл бұрын
Mike tyson only dominated in a weak era, then the big boys came along and battered him. ALI ALL DAY EVERYDAY
@peterbalac1915
@peterbalac1915 4 жыл бұрын
SPOT ON 👏🤙
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson's era was better than Ali era. Tyson all day everyday.
@AllUAreIsHistory
@AllUAreIsHistory 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaeltrumph121 your trolling game is so poor it's embarrassing
@NSB25445
@NSB25445 4 жыл бұрын
Ali wins. Ali had one weakness, it was shown in the Frazier fights. Tyson is average inside, despite what people think. He was great when he was mid range, coming in towards the guy, but once he was inside he was average. Ali would get out of the way expertly while Tyson was going towards him, and he would work his jab for 5-6 rounds until a TKO is called because Tyson wouldn't be able to breathe anymore, let alone fight.
@ImEmpTy295
@ImEmpTy295 4 жыл бұрын
Cough* Norton fight. Ali's weakness was also exposed there. A boxer with good reflexes tk counter jabs could get a chance at beating Ali
@Kembo-h3r
@Kembo-h3r 4 жыл бұрын
@@ImEmpTy295 *Cough Prime Ali....his bouts with Ken was in 1973 and 1976 clearly out of his prime, Ali prime was before he got striped 3 years of his boxing license....In 1970 before his return vs Joe Frazier even Cus called it that Ali would be hella sluggish and he was, his heart and Iron chin pulled him to the the full distance so my point stands that in the early to mid 60s was Ali in his prime
@Arizite
@Arizite 4 жыл бұрын
Mike. Tyson lost against most of the elite fighters he faced, Ali beat the best of his era. I think. Ali's movement and reach would be too much
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson was washed up when he lost. He beats Ali with ease
@AllUAreIsHistory
@AllUAreIsHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Don't mind this idiot,he's clearly delirious with fever from having Corona.
@lukegarrett2598
@lukegarrett2598 4 жыл бұрын
Mike wasn't well at the end of his career
@AllUAreIsHistory
@AllUAreIsHistory 4 жыл бұрын
@@lukegarrett2598 23 is the end of his career? 29 is the end of his career?
@AllUAreIsHistory
@AllUAreIsHistory 4 жыл бұрын
@Tsang Tsung he lost his skills 11 fights in did he? 17 fights before he even won a belt and 27 fights before he even lost a fight?
@sf3567
@sf3567 4 жыл бұрын
Ali Bumaye. Rest in Peace, my brother. Till we meet again when Kingdom comes.
@julianalakhras2140
@julianalakhras2140 4 жыл бұрын
This is the most 50/50 fight possible for me, i'd say out of 8 fights between the two, each one would win 4.
@sess9561
@sess9561 4 жыл бұрын
I say out of 100,000 tyson would win 50,001 of them.
@ravinegi995
@ravinegi995 4 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see Ricky Hatton it automatically reminds me his match with floyd. Man Ricky look so weird now as compared to floyd
@sherekhan420u2
@sherekhan420u2 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. It happens to a lot of us. We get old and fat
@brenmc5103
@brenmc5103 4 жыл бұрын
Robbed against Mayweather.
@nestorramirez5605
@nestorramirez5605 4 жыл бұрын
I know the respect that everyone has on Ali but in my opinion if we’re talking about prime wise Tyson would’ve knocked him out in the 3rd round , it’s an opinion and respect for both fighters that are both legends.
@Lanse1984
@Lanse1984 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. At 20-21 years old he was a monster. An absolute demon
@mahmudulkhan3672
@mahmudulkhan3672 4 жыл бұрын
Ali’s footwork is really fast. It would’be impossible to catch Ali in 4th, 5th round. After 10,11 round Ali would be tired. And there is a chance of tyson to catch him and knock him out. But I don’t think it’s possible in Ali’s prime.
@ZFoxandMcFalcon
@ZFoxandMcFalcon 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think Ali would have been knocked out, he endure the most hard punchers in the heavyweight division of all time such as Sonny Liston, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Ron Lyle, Earnie Shavers and even beyond his prime
@chrisnga6910
@chrisnga6910 3 жыл бұрын
Ali would win this hands down,I’m tired of people and their whole “pRiMe miKe tYsON” bullshit
@mallyrichards7951
@mallyrichards7951 4 жыл бұрын
Something no ones even mentioning is Ali woulda tore tyson apart in the mental games fight woulda been over before it starte
@mohamedabdi8433
@mohamedabdi8433 4 жыл бұрын
Agree this point. But can not defeat 20 yrs old Mike tyson in the ring
@JustMe-ws2pe
@JustMe-ws2pe 4 жыл бұрын
No he wouldn't..19 year old with cus at his side a sure win.
@reoscorpio
@reoscorpio 4 жыл бұрын
i mentioned that.. see my long comment above. ALI would have owned Tyson before the fight started.. he did that to Sonny Liston.. who was Tyson before Tyson was even an embryo lol
@mallyrichards7951
@mallyrichards7951 4 жыл бұрын
Reo Scorpio the thing is w tyson is hes an emotional guy and when cus died he was lost if cus was alive I’d give mike the edge but no cus no real mike
@3rdpersonality48
@3rdpersonality48 4 жыл бұрын
@@mallyrichards7951 cus died in 85 tyson lost to Tillman in 84 the second trial Olympic boxing match .Tyson whooped Tillman in the pros without cus ,,it's a myth. Ali all day to much skill that goes along with the mentality 9 out of 10 for Ali
@Heavyweight-kh8ss
@Heavyweight-kh8ss 4 жыл бұрын
Prime for prime Ali ('64-'67) and Tyson ('86-'88). Both of them possess the tools to beat the other, we can all agree on that im sure. It comes down to who can hurt who first. If we go off of their past tendencies, Ali is gonna flick his jab out while circling arpund ring and Tyson is gonna stalk him slipping his way inside Ali's range. This is where Ali (in my opinion) could get in trouble. If he lets Tyson stay insode even if he's grabbing ahold of Tyson clinching hes at a major risk of getting chopped down. I think Ali would have to move at all times as long as Tyson is throwing with bad intentions. One punch is all it would take, an Ali could be slept quickly. I could see Tyson in trouble if he's hesitant on throwing his punches and stalking Ali. If Ali can beat Tyson to the punch and keep stuffing his jab in Tyson's face often, and mixing in his straight right and land a few strong rights to get Tyson wobbly, then i could see Ali's blinding hand speed and combos finishing tyson off or at very least have Tyson discouraged and win it on points. But i can't see that happening. Tyson is too good at slipping his way in and doing damage quickly. It would take the best ever version of Tyson to pull it off for sure. But when Tyson was on his game and well conditioned and focused, he was a wrecking ball. Had crazy power, and combined with that hand speed, he got thw punches off so fast and clean. Opponent couldn't see all of them coming.
@Marcellus-ro4ko
@Marcellus-ro4ko 2 жыл бұрын
But if we are being honest yes Ali 64-67 was the closest to prime Ali that we had but I don’t really believe we got a full fledged prime Ali. Yes we saw major glimpses especially in 66-67 but I believe he was stripped of his prime. With that being said, I would take Ali by decision in a competitive fight.
@CabdalaAxmad-cb5ug
@CabdalaAxmad-cb5ug Жыл бұрын
The Mohammad ali
@01faisall
@01faisall 4 жыл бұрын
I like Tyson but ali is another level iron chin strength never get tired always moving footwork
@doublequarterpounderwithal1868
@doublequarterpounderwithal1868 2 жыл бұрын
Guy in the crusaders t shirt doesn’t know what he’s on about, he said Ali could punch as hard a Mike Tyson.
@CoachDre721
@CoachDre721 4 жыл бұрын
Ali beat a lot of Monsters. I would say Ali
@Gerbildo123456789
@Gerbildo123456789 4 жыл бұрын
Watch the first 2 rounds of the Muhammad Ali x Sonny Liston 1. That's what Ali would do to Tyson.
@DavidXtinguishor
@DavidXtinguishor 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson had the the same fighting style as Joe Frazier , Joe Frazier whooped Ali btw
@Gerbildo123456789
@Gerbildo123456789 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidXtinguishor Frazier never whooped prime Ali, in fact, nobody whooped prime Ali. Frazier fought an Ali without reflexes and slower. He couldn't get near the Ali of 65-67 (just like every fighter Ali faced during that time).
@DavidXtinguishor
@DavidXtinguishor 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gerbildo123456789 it's funny how even tho Frazier was slow and had no reflex he still beat ali 😂
@Gerbildo123456789
@Gerbildo123456789 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidXtinguishor the slow fighter with no reflexes I was referring to was Ali.
@DavidXtinguishor
@DavidXtinguishor 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gerbildo123456789 I like how u make up excuses for ali saying he was slow and had no reflex , and didn't even gave the respect to Frazier of how much he was the better fighter
@silver933
@silver933 4 жыл бұрын
Best answer came from Tyson Fury! A wise chap he is 👏
@diazromario7586
@diazromario7586 3 жыл бұрын
Tyson beats anyone except ali. Ali would've got into his head in the press conferences leading up to the fight then he would've psychologically tortured him in the ring. It would be like watching a matador and a bull.
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