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[@katangel115]

Derek thinking swans are harmless animals is the funniest shit I've seen in this movie other than his sheer audacity

[@ceeford9919]

He's been shown to not be that bright, I mean he lost to poker to Odette even when he was cheating...but his friend isn't the brightest either. I guess it's like they say, birds of a feather flock together.

[@connorross5341]

Especially due to the fact that swans can be rather bad-tempered bastards at times. Just look at the Greek myth where Zeus impregnated a woman in the form of a swan.

[@rita8274]

I always found people that wanted someone "as beautiful as a swan" always assumed swans are as majestic and kind as they are beautiful, so they expect that personality and beauty in the person they were interested in. WRONG. Swans are aggressive, protective of their home/property/food and will kill not just scare bc they mf can.

[@Lagi42800]

They are harmless, assholes for sure, but harmless ...

[@katangel115]

@@Lagi42800 Swans can break your fingers with ease

[@CheerBear-w9o]

This is how you make Enemies to lovers wrong- also, how was she able to forgive him so quick after all that bullying he did to her- also...WHY IS HE OBSESSED WITH SWANS?! Like...that could trigger Odette's PTSD

[@BabyGirlTiny]

Did we watch the same movie, because bullying??? The only thing you can try to claim was bullying was when he didn’t let her in his fort, but then she kicked it down so

[@CheerBear-w9o]

Well his friend also threw a tomato at her during This Isn't My Idea ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[@monabohamad2242]

@@BabyGirlTiny so then he's/they're met with absolute fairness for the sexist mysoginstic bullying GREAT!!

[@RedMoonSolitary]

​@@BabyGirlTiny dude you're kidding? He was literally using slingshots to throw tomatoes at her.

[@rita8274]

@@RedMoonSolitary TBH I feel like there's def other stuff happening not shown and he was probably even worse "off screen"/ when no one else was around

[@kateiannacone2698]

"Arrange the marriage? Bro, you didn't even like her before just now!" Bro, you didn't even ask her if she wanted that.

[@ghoulruby9871]

arrange the marriage? it's been arranged since he was a sperm!!

[@andreasmeelie1889]

He made a mistake that he regrets. Also his Mom and Odette’s father wanted them to make a decision together but tried to have them fall in love so they can get married. If the arranged marriage was official they would have forced Derek and Odette into marriage. But when Odette said no despite all of those years trying to have them close so that they can fall in love they don’t go through the marriage because at the time they thought it be bad. That’s why Derek did what he did till Odette said no.

[@siobhanmcgoldrick4549]

ano but they loved each othe anyway

[@everydaybuddyfighter1711]

Rothbart: I want my rule to be legitimate so I'll marry the heir to the throne. Also Rothbart: I'm going to murder the king and hope anarchy doesn't occur while I try to get Odette to marry me. Like his plan makes so little sense that I question how no one in the writers room was like "Hey I have this list of plotholes maybe we should address."

[@SophiaPhannn]

90s animated movies rarely cared about plotholes tbh LOOOOL

[@blobbertmcblob4888]

Sort of like Scar waiting around until after Simba is born to enact his plan. MAYBE he needed time to butter up the hyenas, but still. The time for some brother killin' was long before the little hairball was born.

[@sonadowfangirl30869]

Also, Odette just never returns to her kingdom. She's saved, marries Derek, and that's it. The kingdom Rothbart killed the king and kidnapped the princess to get? Never mentioned or shown again. Instead, Odette stays in Derek's kingdom, she never even returns to her own. What are we supposed to think happened to Odette's kingdom? Did it fall apart? Was it taken over? Did some other royal ascend to the throne? This movie did not care for the fate of that kingdom, lol

[@pinkpinkmermayyy]

also even if rothbart was able to marry odette, he wouldn’t be able to become king. He would end up being a prince-consort, and unless the queen or the court decides to make him king (which probably would NEVER happen) then he’s just stuck as a prince-consort and his plan ultimately fails

[@stargirl7646]

@@sonadowfangirl30869 wait what?! Why did I never realize this??

[@elentari15]

I don't think hating prince Derek ist irrational, he literally couldn't think of any other positive thing than "you're pretty" about Odette. Really dude? Especially since they spent every single summer of their life together. Their falling in love never sat right with me, even at the end of the movie, there just wasn't enough reason for him to suddenly risk his life for her, except awakened hormones maybe. That's attraction, not love.

[@kateiannacone2698]

You said it before I could

[@BabyGirlTiny]

Throughout their childhood they didn’t like each other…. Why did ofette fall in love with Derek? Nothing in that lot age showed them falling in love or liking each other

[@mysticloverfairy1]

When Nostalgia Critic did his review of the movie he pointed out that exact point that Derek couldn't think of any other reason why he wanted to marry Odette apart from "She's pretty" lol 😆

[@kateiannacone2698]

And there's NOTHING that changes the relationship between that and Odette being all like "Derek and I were meant to be and he's going to come find me and save me"

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

Yep he was just horny, he didn't love her like the movie tries to convince us lol.

[@TasteLikeSushi]

I mean you asking Derek why he likes her, but honestly why exactly does she like him either?? It ain’t his charming personality!

[@SophiaPhannn]

Odette’s taste in men was….. questionable

[@BabyGirlTiny]

@@SophiaPhannnyou can say that to Derek too. Considering she wouldn’t be able to answer that question, The same way Derek couldn’t

[@krisg5078]

yesssss

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

I think it's literally that she feels trapped and needs a guy to rescue her and he's the only one available

[@urmom6701]

I think the only things that Odette would list off about him was the things she *doesn't* like about him.

[@Toniinbetween]

I remember this movie had such an impact on me for pointing out that beauty isn’t everything.. but it falls so flat because of Derek! Odette has absolutely no reason to have any positive feelings towards him. He literally bullied her their entire lives, but that’s somehow redeemed because… he learns to love her? The message ends up being “true love is when he loves you for you, no matter who he is or what he’s done.” The bar went from mutually shallow attraction to a woman should be happy as long as a man actually sees her as a person, and she will still love him even when he doesn’t. The worst part is that that’s basically where the bar is in real life, so it’s really just a reflection of heterosexual love as it is instead of the portrayal of a healthy ideal that they tried to make. I mean, how many of us can relate to Odette pining for the guy who treats her like crap just because he showed the least bit of interest? I know I can. So in a dystopian way, this is more realistic than most romantic movies for kids. And writing that out, romantic movies for kids is already a really creepy concept :’) why are we like this?

[@SophiaPhannn]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 E X A C T L Y

[@BabyGirlTiny]

Ofette was never pining for Derek until he became an adult and attractive to her.. throughout their childhood she was never pining for him.. what, besides his looks, did odette fall in love with.. that’s why I don’t understand this hate for Derek. Neither of them had any reason to love one another. All they had was that they mutually agreed the other was attractive. It was an arranged marriage, what more did they need to be honest, if years of childhood couldn’t make them fall in love, but seeing one another as attractive did

[@uMaud]

I was with you until you claimed it to be a reflection of heterosexual love. Not all men act like this, and a significant amount of women also act like this. This dynamic isn't specific to a particular sex. Pinning on someone who doesn't appreciate you as much as you appreciate them and who treats you like crap reflects you probably have some issues to work on.

[@Toniinbetween]

@@uMaud I absolutely have a lot of stuff to work on, just like Odette! Of course it’s not going to apply to every man, woman or couple ever, that’s the thing about generalizing. This is just one extreme of a larger spectrum of heterosexual love that a lot of us have learned to idealize. The question is how common it is and what messages we are fed in general, because the fact that a lot of us function this way isn’t just because of some inherent flaw in our personality, it’s taught. Like I said, it’s an extreme, but we don’t exist in a vacuum. I really hope I’m just being cynical for thinking this is more common than what, say, Rapunzel and Eugene has.

[@monabohamad2242]

@@uMaud oh god not the obnoxious "namalt" misogynistic bs

[@amnaalhammadi9924]

happy to see another Derek hater. his "she started out as such an ugly duckling" line is the WORST!!!!

[@SophiaPhannn]

I feel so validated 😂🥰

[@l.g.2888]

Irrational? IRRATIONAL?! This dude had known her since he was like. Four years old or something? Spent every summer with her (being a little brat the whole time I might add) since he was like eight or nine? And he still couldn't think of a SINGLE THING he liked about her besides her looks??? He was conceited, self-important, arrogant, and self-absorbed beginning to end. He's like ARRANGE THE MARRIAGE and they haven't even had a CONVERSATION! He didn't even know her well enough to spot an imposter, and it took her LITERALLY dying for him to think of anything he liked about her besides her face. I l o a t h e Prince Derek and if that's irrational, rationality is overrated! 😂

[@l.g.2888]

Like truly, if I were Odette I would have asked him the question again when he found me at the lake. And if he still didn't have an answer? I'm marrying Rothbart, on one condition: he teaches me sorcery so I can light Derek's stupid pageboy haircut on fire.

[@SageMann92]

Liz Callaway is the go-to singer when you're knocking off Disney princesses! Not only is she the singing double for Odette and Anastasia, but even Disney uses her when they're knocking themselves off, lol - she sings for Jasmine in the Aladdin sequels and for Simba's daughter.

[@SophiaPhannn]

Omg I mentioned that she also sang for jasmine in the Aladdin sequels but I cut it out 😅 she’s great

[@happybunnyntx]

Well she was the second choice for jasmine originally. She tried out to be a Disney princess for awhile. She also tried to get the part of Belle but didn't make the cut.

[@coradussault6515]

❤ ❤❤

[@SrMechaGojira93]

Don’t forget Liz is the singing voice for Mulan

[@SageMann92]

@@SrMechaGojira93 No, that's Lea Salonga. You might be thinking of Jasmine, who is usually sung by Lea but Liz stood in for the two sequels. Lea has always done Mulan, though.

[@lucadev985]

I loved this movie as a kid. These days I find it to be... okay? It's not my first choice when deciding on something to watch but if it were to be on TV for some reason I'd watch it. "This is my Idea" is the best and my favorite song of the movie. It's realistic to an arranged marriage situation, it's the only point these characters are the most expressive with personality, and it's catchy. If this was a animated short, you could have had this movie end on that song with the "they lived happily ever after" assumption.

[@SophiaPhannn]

RIGHT. The kids were so expressive, why were they so boring as adults 😭

[@ActiveAdvocate1]

Point 1: I LOVE your hair Point 2: Derek's a dweeb, and BOTH of them were way more interesting as kids Point 3: If the king and queen had wanted to unite their kingdoms, why didn't THEY get married? They obviously get along, his wife is dead, and you never see whether she still has a hubbie, so why not?

[@astralwyrm3787]

On point 3. Probably because the queen couldn't conceive a child by the time they had this plan available. They couldn't just hand the inheritance of the throne to derek or odette individually because that is a recipe for malcontents claiming a royal line is ruling illegitimately. The heir to the throne needed to be descended from both royal lines so it could not be contested. Hence Derek and Odette needed to marry and rule the kingdoms together; producing an heir who would inherit both kingdoms.

[@LilyShimizu]

Even when Derek finally says some character attributes he likes about Odette, “kindness and courage” feel sort of like a cop out to me for some reason, like you could use those words to describe so many people.

[@andreasmeelie1889]

I just feel like you are just saying that just to pick on him. Everyone has the same thing. What difference is there?

[@AdamFishkin]

Prince Derek is what happens when a bunch of non-Disney animators look at Gaston and say "let's do that, but skinnier and stupider and pretend he's good".

[@monabohamad2242]

LOL😂

[@sS0O0L]

This movie is SO nostalgic to me, and i am glad so many people remember it and talk about it today too, for the pure nostalgia, despite its flaws. Glad you liked it when you were younger too! And i'm glad that me, you, 98% of your viewers and probably everyone who talks about this movie today agree that Derek doesn't deserve Odette. Like, at all. Also HAPPY BIRTHDAY SOPHIA! It's my birthday too and my name is also Sofia lol

[@SophiaPhannn]

OMG HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU TOO SOFIA 🥳

[@NeonAtary777]

I think the BIGGEST Problem with this movie is the fact that they make it about "beauty isn't the only reason to marry someone" but never do we see Derek get to know her other attributes as kindness, being smart, courageous ..ets and THEN fall in love with her. Even the audience, we don't even learn anything about Odette! I think it would have been awesome if Derek realized that he messed up big time when he mistakenly vowed love for the black swan JUST because she is beautiful and never realized she wasn't Odette because he didn't spend enough time with her to marry her. They should have left it as an open but optimistic ending, or maybe show us that they got to spend time together and fall in love truly.

[@imakevideossometimes3908]

It’s odd, like theoretically they SHOULD be a really cute couple? Childhood friends/enemies to lovers?? Oddette and Derek have the makings of all my favorite tropes, but they just…completely butchered it…

[@semperferusartist]

Girl, you're not alone! I watched this so many times as a kid and I still love it for the nostalgia factor even though I know better now that it's not technically great. Songs = iconic.

[@Dez861]

What floors me is that, he's literally known Odette for their entire lives, and legitimately struggles to find a non-superficial reason to love her. That, and from their teenage years into young adulthood, Odette seems to have retained none of the wit, confidence, or humor that we saw in This is My Idea. Remember girls, you can be either a person or you can be beautiful - both is not an option.

[@amy-louisevincent2703]

It’s so funny how easy it could have been fixed by just adding some conversations during the childhood or just some looks xxx but now u gotta react to the second

[@wattsink2009]

18:50 In answer to your question, this movie heavily implies that Odette is unable to speak to people in her swan form, and she is the only one who can communicate with the other animal characters (probably a side-effect of the spell). 🤔 However, this is retconned in the sequels. In the first two sequels, Derek, Odette, Bridget (Rothbart’s former henchwoman), and one of the villains are able to fluently communicate with all of the animal characters (which, to be fair, could be explained by either magic, or Odette teaching them how to understand the animals). Then in the CGI sequels, the animals are able to communicate with anyone. 🙄

[@nationalinstituteofcheese3012]

The fact that Odette actually tried to be nice at first, and Derek runs away and yet everyone acts like they both were bad is laughable. It’s not rivalry, it’s bullying

[@mmmk6793]

your editing of derek getting his ass kicked by the great animal made me laugh so loudly😂😂😂 leader of the derek hate parade

[@DIDisguise77]

I'm a huge Disney fan. This brings me back to my childhood. The fact that you memorized the songs amazes me.

[@SophiaPhannn]

I rewatched this movie so many times, it’s hardwired into my brain 😭

[@wesmcinerny4524]

This is not a Disney film, it's a Nest Entertainment film.

[@Albino_Wolf]

I don't think Swam Princess is a Disney movie.

[@wesmcinerny4524]

@@Albino_Wolf It's not. It's a Nest Entertainment movie.

[@Albino_Wolf]

@@wesmcinerny4524 That's what I just said. I know that, you just said it too.

[@chloesantos8637]

I like this movie (for nostalgic reasons) but I really wished they established the relationship/childhood enemies to crush thing better! Like "This Isn't My Idea of Fun" is my favorite song and basically the only thing I continue to remember from this film years later

[@elezeiaz]

I gotta say it, the swedish dub makes Derek suuuuuuch a more likeable character holy shit 😂😂

[@QueenCloveroftheice]

Listen, even the Swan Princess fandom makes fun of Derek, so you’re not alone lol

[@rainwitchansy]

Here’s the thing that gets me lol: if Huberta & William wanted to unite their kingdoms, why didn’t THEY get married? Clearly their spouses are gone (interesting that there wasn’t any grieving for Odette’s mom btw), and clearly they at the very least get along very well. Soooooo yeah why waste this time and drama? Except we wouldn’t have a movie. Sighhhhhh

[@Ninjaair64]

"You should write a book, how to offend a woman in five syllables or less." Is still one of my favorite lines. Lord Rodgers had the best lines hahahaha

[@raralovely13]

Omg you're literally just one month older than me!! A 97 child 💅 Happy birthday 🎉💕 I wanted to emphasize once again how your videos always give me serenity, especially now that I am in much need of them since I have gone through the big earthquake and endless aftershocks of Turkey - Syria :( Thank you again for your sweet content💖 Love from Syria 🥰

[@mayahuel-v2q]

I saw the notification and I was like: "Omg yass queen that's the movie I've been waiting for GO ROAST DEREK" also happy birthday! 🥳

[@SophiaPhannn]

Hehe thank you 🥰 ‘twas fun roasting that man 🤩

[@NightmareVixen12art]

I love your singing voice Edit: "Can you say Rothbart?" 😂😂😂😂 That gave off Dora the Explorer vibes Edit x2: I am still convinced that Derek didn't love her for her in the end. I think that he was only attracted to her turning into a swan. He wanted the ball swan centric, her wedding dress was swan themed, and they moved to the swan lake after marrying. The second movie is based around him neglecting her after they got married after she became human.

[@kiaraeijo]

Fun fact: Richard Rich was a Disney Animator and then he was fired from Disney in the mid 80’s because Peter Schneider who was Vice President of Disney Animation at the time had issues with him. Liz Callaway also did the singing voice for Jasmine for The Return of Jafar and Aladdin and The King of Thieves and the singing voice for Kiara in The Lion King II Simba’s Pride

[@janeyrevanescence12]

From what I understand of the situation, he was fired because of the massive flip that was The Black Cauldron…which itself suffered from massive Executive Meddling to the point Jeffrey Kratzenburg personally cut out several minutes of film in the cutting room after a test screening resulted in several crying children and parents complaining about the film being too scary. Ironically enough, the failure of The Black Cauldron and subsequent mumblings about the animation department being shut down is what convinced the animators left to bring their A Game to the next project, The Great Mouse Detective. It was just enough of a success (despite An American Tail coming out that same year) that executives had enough confidence to put more money into the animation department, which led the way to the Disney Renaissance of the late 80’s to the end of the 90’s. So yeah, thank Richard Rich and Don Bluth for getting the ball rolling.

[@BabyGirlTiny]

The issue with this movie, is that odette also had no reason to fall in love with Derek either. Like, if someone asked her that same question, what would she say??? Because they didn’t fall in love through their childhood. That’s why binding fully understand the hate for Derek. Sure he’s the one who said it out loud, but she only fell in love with him because of his looks too.. she wasn’t in love with him when he was younger and was hoping he would fall in love with her too. And then it was an arranged marriage that neither wanted in the first place.. why do people out so much on Derek, when his answer made sense lol

[@marcuscarana9240]

"What else is there?" Largest red flag in a relationship ever in the universe.

[@pyrettablaze86]

I had the Odette Barbie as a kid but I've really only seen this maybe 15x as opposed to the 100+ of most Disney Princess films. Happy birthday, princes! You have the most beautiful voice and I love how you always sing along with the songs during your reactions which makes them unique and special 🥰✨ I hope your day is as lovely as you! Mwah! 💕

[@SophiaPhannn]

Thank you lovely 🥰🥰

[@wattsink2009]

3:00 I think Rothbart is one of the most underrated animated villain performances. 😎 Granted, there’s not much to his grand plan, and he probably should have had more screen time than he got. But, he has some of the best lines in the movie (second only to Lord Rogers) and he delivers them perfectly in a way that’s both hilarious and threatening!

[@SophiaPhannn]

He was so zany, I couldn’t find him scary 😂

[@wattsink2009]

@@SophiaPhannn Oh, just wait until you see the villains in the sequels! 😏 The villain of the second movie (Clavius) was still at least legitimately funny. But from the third movie onward, they clearly stopped caring all together. 🙄

[@Overwatch2010]

6:46 I would like someone that doesn’t say “Your handsome” the first time we talk I want them to go “Your so funny” or “Your so smart” PERSONALITY IS KEY, Even my ex said “I like you because of your laugh and smartness when you try to be” now that’s a person with personality

[@GGD849]

I don’t if anyone has said this yet but can we talk about how pretty Sophia’s singing voice is because, omg!

[@katherineashby1381]

While the movie was fun I was always salty that they didn’t die like they do in the ballet…the scene is so dramatic and beautiful yet in this somehow Dereck manages to live 😤 😂

[@J3rs3y_G1rl]

You all hate on Derek. You forget, Odette is guilty of the same thing. She was as man to him as a kid, and suddenly she loves him cause he's handsome. Why was she never asked her reason for calling for him? Turnabout is fair play.

[@LtCaswell]

8:11 "If you wanna worry about something, worry about that hairline" Jeez, that's savage xDD

[@lisaleyendekker8305]

Busting out the tiara, I like it! Happy Birthday, Sophia! this is also a movie I watch with nostalgia glasses. the song "Practice" lives rent free in my brain, sometimes.

[@SophiaPhannn]

Thank you 🥰

[@reedsylvier5250]

I watched this a few times as a child and I'm sure it was purely for visual reasons. I distinctly remember kinda having a hyperfixate on the way Odette's hair was animated/how it moved so smoothly, to the point of being a core memory lol

[@vik_tika]

Call me picky But something that have always confused me is their ages In the scene where Odette is a baby, DEREK IS A FUCKING 4/6 YEAR OLD But when they start meeting each other for their parents they're the same age???

[@WovilettaNr2]

Its funny how Odette had a swan themed wedding, got married in the dress Rothbart designed for her, and then moved in to his castle.

[@xylocarpyeahxylocarp]

Happy birthday! I think the French frog is because frog legs are a commonly known French delicacy. that's the only reason I could think of lol

[@SophiaPhannn]

Honestly that’s probably the reason 😭

[@xylocarpyeahxylocarp]

​@@SophiaPhannn it feels like a lot of commitment for a throw away joke tbh

[@idkjade]

No, but I swear Derek gets WORSE in the second movie. Odette sings a whole song about how he doesn’t love her anymore and doesn’t spend any time with her.

[@iamjustheretomakechillvide2234]

“Is see him smiling and my knees start buckling. I see inside him and my doubts are gone.” “SHE STARTED OUT AS SUCH AN UGLY DUCKLING” The difference is…..

[@bjp1101]

Happy birthday! I watched all the movies but even as a child I thought Derek was trash

[@SophiaPhannn]

Thank you hehe 🥰 AND IKR

[@eyden1562]

I'm convinced that the only reason I liked this movie as a kid was the music, striking animation, great voice actors, but it was never really the storyline lol.

[@diannamacmillan375]

That hatred towards Derek is so understandable I have the exact same feelings I watch the show when I was younger too I really liked Odette’s character watching her grow up

[@kevinyonan2147]

I think the best way to describe the story is that it's very "boomer" in terms of lessons. The writers could've taken the time to make a better story and give Derek a way to really redeem himself in terms of character. Rothbart's "evil plan" made really no sense in any regard. I guess the writers were like "fack it, it's a kid's movie, they won't care too much about plot and growth or lessons". EDIT: Scratch that, it was ONE writer. I don't think he had much people take a look at his script.

[@AlottaBoulchit]

Oh my GOD this movie!! I hated this movie so much but then I became absolutely OBSESSED with this movie for the longest time??? I watched it and it's sequels obsessively for a period. It was so bizzare to me. lol I am SO glad to hear so much frustration and hate towards Derek. That manchild haunted my nightmares with how stupid he was. Also his teeth freaked me out because they didn't go all the way to his mouth edge?? It felt so weird. This movie feels like an unfinished project they just hurried out. There feels like such a lack of explanation for events and reasonings.. Things just happened because they need to for the story to advance. It reminds me of when I was a kid and I wrote awful fanfics that were basically plot point to plot point speedruns and absolutely no "meat" to chew on. lmaooo The only other movie that I ever disliked entirely then became absolutely obsessed with for no reason was The Princess and The Goblin. That one at least felt like it had logical reasoning to it's world and characters. Happy (Belated) Birthday!!🎉

[@flo8800]

not the lower taxes 😭😂😂

[@chaoticneutral7976]

They had such a good concept because at that point, most Disney couples had known each other for a few days at most but we hadn't seen the main prince and princess grow up together. It could have been cute childhood enemies to lovers but we see that they only start to be interested in one another when they've matured enough to be considered attractive.

[@nassursauls7717]

Happy birthday gorgeous❤love your vids. Continue growing and putting smiles on people's faces

[@SophiaPhannn]

Thank you 🥰🥰🥰

[@rapunzelgirl353]

Prince Derek and the infamous “what else is there?” Line. That is why you hate him lol

[@coolbreeze-x5x]

Feliz Cumpleanos Sophia! 🎂 Lol "Why do you love me Derek??" ....Umm, You're hot. 😆 I don't know when 2-D animation will come back, if ever. But, I'm glad we can still revisit films like these.

[@SophiaPhannn]

Thank you 🥰

[@kitflixstudios516]

Thank you! Prince Derek is an idiot of a red flag, which is why, I’m planning on doing a retelling of “The Swan Lake” in my own fantasy version! Still like the movie, but overall Prince Derek is the absolute worse😤

[@MineKurtMininer]

I have the best way to remake this and improve upon it What if we had them grow up from enemies to friends before they would be lovers

[@landorjonze5308]

Happy birthday, Sophia! That was the greatest segue to a sponsor read ever. Brava! 👏👏👏 Love the unhinged hatred for Derek. Don't ever change.

[@SophiaPhannn]

Thank you hehe 🥰

[@mimmipigg99]

First of all, Happy Birthday!🎉 Thank you so much for the smiles and laughter your videos bring!💝 Second of all, this movie is one of my favorite childhood movies!! Me and my sisters used to watch it all the time on VHS (also the 2nd and 3rd one)! To this day we will still randomly start singing Far Longer Than Forever from time to time. I even baught it on DVD so I can watch it whenever. Looking back on it as an adult there are definitely some things I whished were different but it still has a special place in my heart❤ Also that crown with your hair looks amazing! And with that voice!? hello?! A real disney princess is walking among us!

[@SophiaPhannn]

Aww thank you hehe 🥰

[@chelseashurmantine8153]

I’ve honestly never met a good Derek. Strike that, only one single good Derek

[@lydiah12]

Thank you for posting and happy (belated) birthday! Like you, I loved this movie as a little kid but became disenchanted with it watching it again in college. Knowing that it's not going to be top tier, though, there are still fun little bits scattered throughout. Not only did they steal the dancing in the clouds thing from Sleeping Beauty, they also stole the young prince meeting the infant princess/his future bride! We can only hope that was an unused boot on the "moose's" face. I like that you pointed out the animation - this movie has some of the best water splashes, for instance. And I've really gotten into the songs, lately. There are intimidating villain songs and there are fun villain songs, and Rothbart's is firmly in the latter camp! The footmen's intro to the ball is on the same track as "Princesses on Parade" (a favorite scene in childhood and now!) on the soundtrack. I love their snazzy dance moves. And my VHS had a music video for "Eternity" by Dreams Come True, which I LOVED (thank you TV Tropes - until a few months ago I could not remember the name of the song and so couldn't find the video. I was 99% sure it wasn't just a pop cover of "For Longer Than Forever").

[@gachathis4858]

I can tell you exactly what's worse than "is beauty all there is?" "What else is there?" And it's this. "Why do you want me?" "Because there's no one else who is willing to be with me or do anything with me. you're my only option." (Basically only settling for you bc they considered you literally their only option. There's no reason at all. Not even beauty. It's just they don't think they could get anyone else. So to them their settling for something they don't actually want bc they have no choice -_-)

[@reallyseriouss]

I made the vow for HER. Do you HEAR? THE VOW I MADE WAS FOR HERRRRRR!!

[@janeyrevanescence12]

No need to shout!

[@Interestingenough4]

As a Millennial guy who watched many animated movies as a kid, one of the few things I remembered about this movie was Lord Rothbart transforming himself into the Great Animal and fighting Derek. For all the movie's flaws, the battle was well done (albeit short), and Rothbart's Animal form was both pretty cool and unsettling. Honestly, here are moments that look like he could've come straight from an 80s Don Bluth flick.

[@LauraGarcia-ys4dt]

my questions is... why don't the parents get married???? like they seem to be single, right? and the kingdoms would unite in lie three seconds... girl idk

[@JoeyTakinawa]

That Puffin is probably my favorite character out of this whole thing lol

[@KnightLightXL]

why does everyone just forget the ending, its not that he just loved her for beauty, he just couldnt say it, he didn't just pull those traits out of a hat, was this movie perfect? no, it def could have been done better but Derek and Odettes love story is better than people give credit for PRINCE DEREK: Forgive me, Odette. Forgive me. I only wanted to break the spell. To prove my love. I love you for your kindness and courage... I always have.

[@SEELE-ONE]

What angers me about Swan Princess is that it makes some simple, yet effective changes to the story to “fix it” and make it logically consistent throughout. Yet, it fumbles the most basic and important one of all, thus negating the great strides made when adapting the story into movie format! Very little changes are required to make the story work much better!

[@susanstorm7910]

Michelle Nicastro will be missed

[@wallacephillips9880]

The sidekicks in this movie remind me of how I feel about the Gargoyles from Hunchback, where only two of them serve a purpose and one is mostly annoying. In Hunchback, Victor and Laverne serve a purpose and Hugo is kinda annoying. In Swan Princess, Speed and Puffin are tolerable, and Jean Bob is annoying.

[@janellewoods6571]

Happy birthday!! Your makeup always looks beautiful, but that blue is STUNNING, I love it

[@SophiaPhannn]

Aww thank you 🥰 I was pretty proud of this look hehe 💙

[@POTO_Phan]

I could swear that they were hinting that he was falling in love her during their teen years. But then when he can't even say why he likes her outside of "damn, she's hot" making the comment by Bronly completely pointless.

[@joselinvalle6219]

Gahhh the opening number is honestly such a great setup for a fun “learning how to love each other” plot. I wish they would’ve sprinkled in some instances of the two getting along to help with the mutual attraction later. Cause watching them as kids was so fun and felt real. Too bad they wrote Derek to be a dud, and Odette to have low standards.

[@EverythingFan02]

I wish this movie was better. The first act is pretty solid and has uncommon, for the time, character flaws for the male and female protagonists that all kids could still relate to and they both act like real kids and young adults. If This is My Idea was a bit slower and had an interlude that showed them actually bonding over or realizing their shared interests, both of them realizing they like each other could have been sweet. Derek being unable to express his feelings and Odette being disappointed and distant but civil in calling off the engagement, and later confiding in her father, and Derek vowing to prove his feelings and make it up to Odette, after the movie tries to make it clear that he loves her for her but just is horrible at expressing his feelings, are good character beats. But then the movie proceeds like none of this happened. Odette and Derek act like they were happily engaged before Odette was kidnapped. Which is even weirder because Odette is still pretty active and opinionated like she was in the beginning of the film and tries to save the situation herself multiple times. The songs also drop off. This Is My Idea established and progressed character, setting, and story while still being entertaining. Every song after becomes an exposition dump or an entertaining but pointless diversion from the plot.

[@sarahhenry3607]

"What else IS there?" I took this not as Derrick only thinking beauty is all that matters, but it being her only good trait. As if to say, "You got nothing else going for you other than being hot"

[@ameliabond5244]

I just rewatched this movie and honestly, I think most of the issues of this movie could have been solved with more character introduction. Like why does Odette know the animals already? To us, it seems like she’s only just met them. Also, I think them growing to love each other could also have been a lot better

[@jackiesliterarycorner]

Hi, new here. Your visceral hatred for Derek is hilarious. I personally, liked the side characters the best like Derek's mom and Jean Bob. I love the same songs you do too. There should be a story where Odette has a third option and he actually likes her for her personality not just her looks or the Kingdom.

[@greyvvaren]

Derek is the WORST love interest. And even though "For Longer Than Forever" is a beautiful song it makes zero sense at that point in the movie cause they just called off a wedding and ended things on bad terms lol

[@confetti3503]

Rothbart: I'm okay with murder, and holding someone hostage, but I draw the line at forcing my hostage to marry me

[@flower_productions7213]

He definitely has his prioritises straight-

[@TheAeroAvatar]

Remember Quest for Camelot? What a mess they had trying to establish Kayley's character? It seems Derek was a similar case of this. Like, your hate isn't an isolated thing, he pissed off the test audiences during the first screening.

[@terribIe.]

Happy birthday Sophia! Hope you enjoy your day, you deserve it! 🥳🤎

[@SophiaPhannn]

Thank you 🥰

[@TheHitListPodcast]

Happy birthday! As a gift, I'm watching ALL THE ADS!!!

[@SophiaPhannn]

HAHA THANK YOU FRIEND

[@shadowm2k7]

Oh boy oh boy oh boyyyyyy I love this movie so much, INCLUDING DEREK 😂😂😂!!! He is pretty flawed in this one but i really do think he grows as a character and he does actually like Odette for more than looks cause in the song he gets jealous when Odette flirts with the guards and he's not attracted to her physically yet and they have spent years together so i don't believe he doesn't know anything about her, though i do wish we got to see more of their interactions! He is A lot better in the next few movies, and he's one of the only animated princes EVER to actually get any character development and that's got to count for something lol

[@julianpeppers1889]

I USED TO LOVE THIS MOVIE AS A KID. I always begged my dad to rent it from the video store for me haha. I think the character design and voice acting is good, but the story definitely has issues, and they should have made Derek go through character development. LIKE for example: He should have mourned Odette, and refused all the other princesses BEFORE he found her again. His mom or advisor could say "but they're beautiful aren't they? isn't that all that matters?" and make him have an epiphany about how Odette was different, and that he loved her for HER. Also makes no sense that Odette would sing a love song about him when their last interaction went so poorly.

[@DimaRakesah]

I used to love this movie as a little girl. As an adult I wonder why I couldn't shake this thought that being ugly would make me invisible and unlovable and only my looks would make men want to love me. Then I watched this... "You're beautiful!" ok..... and? Well shit. Hello to my childhoold trauma that I didn't even see coming. "No more Mr Nice Guy" just sums of up the "Nice Guy" phenomenon in general. A dude who isn't really nice, but uses the excuse that being nice makes him a target for being walked all over so that he can justify being the jerk he has always been.

[@Suited_Nat]

23:11 I just realized that the prince definitely inspired Farquaad. Also- damn I haven’t seen this movie in years.

[@jswatch9270]

"Far longer than forever" is one of my favorite love songs ever.

[@cammies7365]

Omg I had a thing with a childhood friend of mine and I was like ugh look at us the perfect love story, friends since we were kids and now we're together, THEN HE TURNED OUT TO BE A DEREK!! It was great at first but I soon saw all his issues and now we don't talk at all LOLLL

[@justindenney-hall5875]

Sophia Phan Your blue hair looks so pretty.

[@SophiaPhannn]

Thank you hehe 💙

[@justindenney-hall5875]

@@SophiaPhannn You're welcome, again you beautiful blue haired birthday girl🤣🥰

[@zsedcftglkjh]

To be fair, most girls can't give a reason why they should be loved OTHER than they are beautiful.

[@jswatch9270]

R.I.P. Michelle Nicastro (the speaking voice of Princess Odette).

[@Albino_Wolf]

Guess we should all agree that Prince Derreck is the true embodiement of a simp. Also, Feliz Cumpleaños. 🥳🎂 Also, like your videos. And I was wonder if you're going to watch Quest for Camelot. Another nostalgic movie, probably you're going to cry. If you manage not to cry, I owe you $20.

[@SophiaPhannn]

Thank you!! And I’ve never seen it :o

[@Albino_Wolf]

@@SophiaPhannn Then better add the movie on your watchlist, you're going to like it. It has some music music on it. But there will be one song that will make your heart warm or wish that someone sing it to you at your wedding. You'll find out what I'm talking about.

[@sleepyghostgirl]

why does the frog look like prince naveen 😭

[@hameley12]

Three things that I disliked about the Derek character were one, he was selfish and kept going after Odette only because of her looks. He never apologized for his behaviour or his dumb answer. Two, the writers did a horrid character build-up between Derek and Odette, they don't even have feelings of "love" for each other they only cared for each as siblings /friends. Three, Prince Phillip from Sleeping Beauty did more to get to his soon-to-be bride by fighting the dragon and nearly dying in the process. Here in Swan Princess, Derek whines, cries, stands and pauses around instead of helping Odette out of the curse. Then we find out in the second movie that they are still getting to know each other! This is funny because they reuse the same character Rothbart. Instead of setting up the stakes for Derek and making him and Odette fight back against the new antagonist. The second solution could have been for the recent King and Queen could have married and let Derek and Odette be siblings. Then Derek meets another nice and smart Princess from another kingdom and the same for Odette, she could have met a handsome, smart and brave Prince or Knight. The story arc and characterization are all over the place. I love your reviews, Sophia! Thanks so much!

[@IronMaidenLeigh]

If we're being completely fair, Odette clearly was only into Derrick for his looks, too, considering she showed zero interest in him until that point. And I don't think she says anything after about any trait she likes him for.

[@monabohamad2242]

And?

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

I feel like this movie could have been improved without Derek and Odette’s argument about what else is there to Odette. They could still have an argument about them not wanting to be together and see something is starting to change. Then have Odette be kidnapped and have them being apart make them both realize they’re in love. The sudden change in how they treat each other after the montage just feels really…off.