PRO DOOM 3

[@albertgore7435]

“The Devil is real. I know... I built his cage.” Is a really well delivered line tho.

[@Mike14264]

That's a pretty cool, kinda badass line, honestly.

[@Chris--kc9xc]

Man, he better have a good warranty on that cage if he gonna break out *that* easily

[@dravendfr]

I thought he said, “I bent his cage” either way it’s awesome.

[@Chris--kc9xc]

@@dravendfr Too bad they never expanded on that though

[@wargreysama]

@@Chris--kc9xc Well, he is supposedly one of the engineers that worked on Cyberdemon's cage... I think that's all there is to it.

[@weaponizedautism8389]

Seriously the Main Theme in this game KICKS ASS. No wonder ID put it as a collectible in Eternal.

[@ashathlok829]

YESSIR

[@stateofopportunity1286]

Mick Gordon also remixed parts of it into new tracks for Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal.

[@xyzxviii3384]

Give Gordons Remix called "Harbinger" a listen. Great stuff

[@TrashRat45]

I always loved the doom 3 theme song cause it gives me TOOL vibes, specifically Lateralus, but im sure you knew that haha

[@jamesedleymusic]

State of Opportunity Yeah but he missed out the better part of the song and changed the key I believe.

[@PenguinDT]

You mentioned the chainsaws being on mars being explained, that isn't the most fun lore tid-bit buried in the logs. The best one has to be Mixom / Moxim. Long story short, id had made an industrial brand name Mixom for DOOM 3 and a lot of the equipment carry their markings. However, some times the mappers had to flip the textures in order for them to fit - and all of the sudden Mixom becomes Moxim. Lazy devs wouldn't care - better devs would create extra textures for the occasion. Mad lads of id? They wrote it into the lore. See, despite Mars base requesting the high-quality industrial Mixom parts and equipment, the cheap-skates of UAC sent them low-quality ones from a knock-off brand Moxim. You wonder why the lighting is borked, half the doors don't work and in general the base feels like a death-trap even without the demons? It's because those darn Moxim parts keep failing.

[@Valkyries733]

I need to read all the doom 3 PDAs

[@StrikeNoir105E]

@@Valkyries733 Doom 3 had some of the best post-apocalyptic logs of any game I've played in terms of presentation, writing, and the occasional voice acting. You really do get a sense of the kind of work issues the people at the UAC were facing, feeding into the bigger picture of how bad working at the Mars facility can be sometimes, while at the same time balanced out by the occasional petty issues that office politics and social gossip you can glimpse.

[@OpenMawProductions]

@@StrikeNoir105E One of my favorites is poor Teresa Chaser. "Everyone is being really nice to me." Yeah, well, that's cause you have a vagina, Ms. Chaser... It must really have sucked to be one of five women on the base. I love Doom 3. I don't care what anyone says. I love it.

[@admiraltonydawning3847]

@@OpenMawProductions Sounds like a nightmare specifically for modern day twitter.

[@seanjc6]

Bruh the fact that I’m not the only one who still plays doom 3 makes me so happy lmao. I remember when i playing years back and i found the id brick on the last mission and reading all of the devs “thank you” to us for the journey. Good times man.

[@samragsdale2301]

There’s a lot of good voice actors in this. Doomguy for instance is voiced by Gordon Freeman

[@BenedictWolfe]

I recognise a ton of the voices from VtM Bloodlines here.

[@sk1fgreen591]

You are funny!🤣🤣🤣

[@mrdrprof99]

Kurt Cobain plays the part of the shotgun.

[@-.MICHAEL.-]

Trent Reznor... Of course in Reznor's sound pack, but he have a voice

[@sohamacharya171]

And Chell as well.

[@ericanightshade]

"It's like whack-a-mole, but sometimes your mallet is a rubber chicken." -Best description for a shotgun ever "Oh shit, that was the John Goodman car game!" -Best review of Rage ever

[@Gruntvc]

At least Rage 1 had John Goodman. I forgot Rage 2 within minutes of hearing about it.

[@jamstonjulian6947]

@@Gruntvc Can Rage 2 even be considered an id game?

[@ViktorKruger99]

@@jamstonjulian6947 If you told me that Rage 2 was an Ubisoft game, I would believe it

[@Kris-ck2md]

@@Gruntvc There was a Rage 2?

[@Enclavefakesoldier]

At least Rage had a better shotgun than doom 3

[@papayer]

"They fire their shotguns faster than you do, and I think they have better accuracy". That's because they do. The D3 shotgunners attended the HL2 school of shotgunners and graduated with honors. Annoying pricks.

[@NerfPlayeR135]

Well, it’s certainly a better school than the one the Stormtroopers went to. _This_ Palpatine got that part _right._

[@connorgolsong290]

Just curious, is this place run by the same people as the Prometheus school of running away from things?

[@louisthomas2776]

And now they have bragging rights...

[@swagguy7515]

Ah HL2 shotgunners, coming outta nowhere and 2-shotting you…

[@papayer]

@@connorgolsong290 Normally you'd stay away from enemies carrying close range weapons, yes.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

Civvie, the trick to the Tentacle Commandos is to plain duck down (while moving forward), they'll lash above your head. Then you can put either the shotgun or the chainsaw up their taint.

[@markhirsch6301]

Thanks, I didn't know that either. That'll definitely help me, plus I'm about to get Perfect Doom 3 and it's more monsters mod so I'll need to use it

[@0kisshun0]

@@markhirsch6301 you dont even need to move, its enough if you just crouch down and pump the commando full of lead... or plasma.

[@m-w-y7325]

you can also straight up crouch-saw Archviles while they are mid teleporting, just like imps, just run up to them quickly, crouch and stick the chainsaw into their nethers. save the soul qube for hell shamblers

[@m-w-y7325]

@Digore Killington I personally think people don't know they can jump and crouch in Doom 3 since you couldn't in Doom1/2.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

@@m-w-y7325 I don't understand how you could come to that conclusion, considering you need to jump and duck to actually proceed on Doom 3.

[@brad1169]

Never make a shotgun terrible in a horror game, make it good so that you can cause tension by making ammo scarce.

[@theother1s220]

That's why I love the shotgun in many video games. When in doubt, pull it out. The shotgun is usually a FPS equivalent to a security blanket, except for this game.

[@DinsRune]

The Resident Evil school of game design

[@DisorientedWanderer]

​@@theother1s220 misunderstood "when in doubt, pull it out" and now I have a restraining order.

[@Stupaipai]

But the Doom 3 Shotgun causes tension though. It forces you to get up close and person with the enemies, which is something you really shouldn't do in a horror game.

[@urbanshorty1670]

​@Dr.PaiPai which i agree with but in the case of doom 3 it gives you so much ammo for the other guns (not so sure about og doom 3 since ive only played bfg) you dont really need to get close, since you can just mow down enemies with the machine gun

[@thefidgetspinnerofdoom]

To be fair, I think the "water on the ceiling" bit was their attempt to make a sort of a reflection effect on the ceiling from the water below...

[@mugwump7049]

They could have just made a proper animated ceiling texture with hand-drawn caustics if that's what they were shooting for. Some Quake custom maps use water in very creative, physics-defying ways, and I love that, but in the Doom universe it doesn't really make sense.

[@m-w-y7325]

or maybe a transparent pipe transferring poop down the sewers

[@kay_luhb]

@@mugwump7049 you cant really make new animated flats in vanilla doom without replacing some other animated texture.

[@mugwump7049]

@@kay_luhb Oh, I didn't know that. Never dabbled into Doom mapping. I'm used to Quake where you can use pretty much any animated texture you like.

[@Jesse__H]

eeeeeeeh, I guess. Maybe.

[@christopherprementine5287]

DOOM 3's Plasma rifle reload has the most satisfying gun sound ever made, hands down.

[@expendableround6186]

And the firing sound.

[@ashdoglsu]

I agree with both comments.

[@MasterBuller]

The only thing I don't like about Doom 3's Plasma Rifle is that I feel like its projectiles are too slow

[@viyhexe131]

I would agree with you if it weren't for the existence of the M1 Garand, both in games and in real life.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

@@MasterBuller That's sort of to your advantage in that it makes it pretty easy to put up a 'wall' of plasma to block incoming projectiles.

[@sunslap]

Fun fact, Civvie made a whole episode about Doom 3 without realizing he can easily dodge tentacles and now half the comments are telling him he can dodge tentacles.

[@esteemedyams]

That's not really how you use the expression "fun fact".

[@Anikinoro]

So fun

[@dechmusic]

Dodge what?

[@sunslap]

@@dechmusic arm noodles.

[@loop5720]

667 comment liker! ;D

[@donskiver]

Back in the day, this was a hardware killer. I remember working at a major electronics retailer at the time and did so many ram upgrades and graphics card installs for customers just so they could play this game. As old as this game is, it still looks pretty good to me.

[@lasarousi]

And a year later fear blew it out of the water.

[@pagb666]

@@lasarousi Hilariously enough, Doom3 aged better

[@lasarousi]

@@pagb666 I love both but FEAR has absolutely better shooting and AI.

[@pagb666]

@@lasarousi Yes, that's out of question. I was pointing at the visuals. FEAR wowed us back then, but today FEAR's locales look bland and blocky, it paid off to have a bunch of artists designing machinery and stuff for Doom3's corridors.

[@lasarousi]

@@pagb666 the blocky scenery is a part of it, if you made the corridors cluttered players would have gotten lost due to the multiple paths and arenas, there's no actual back tracking in fear, but there's entire missions backtracking in D3 Fear is too fast paced to even notice the room is just boxes strung together imo. Fear I play every single year due to the AI making it interesting different each time, d3 is only 3 times because it's the exact same even when the scenery is more rich.

[@shagohad3]

Civvie, the martians in Doom 3 didn't run like cowards. They literally had their souls harvested and put into the soul cube. Millions if not billions of soul, all condensed into a cube for the sole purpose of fucking over hell.

[@idurrani7700]

The ultimate chad move

[@Gator_Queen8188]

That's fuckin metal...... Fitting

[@OhNoTheFace]

Sounds like coward running

[@grahamcarpenter691]

Ironically the “Martians” seem kind of like the Night Sentinels in Doom Eternal.

[@largelump3613]

So?

[@Sora95678]

Something that I appreciated about Doom 3 was that when you looked at computer panels or the Med stations, the little cursor actually shows up on the device's screen. I dunno, it was a nice little detail that stuck with me for some reason.

[@marrvynswillames4975]

yeah, the computers and the holograms in Delta Labs 1 are impressive

[@youdontneedtoseehisidentif4939]

Didn't _Sin_ do that, too..?

[@bakabiru2519]

once id established their technical dominance of the medium, they turned to world-building and just immediately owned that too. hayden and pierce don't know what's coming for them tho

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@soulsphere9242 I don't think ANY game used screen graphics as competently and immersively as Doom 3 did.

[@Ruby.Aurora]

@@DinnerForkTongue Second Sight and Timesplitters Future Perfect also had computers with screens you could use ingame, although it was more for puzzles or extra stuffs like text logs and emails

[@QuietTomato]

I think it was stated that Dr. Sidious was once an intelligent and talented guy rather than evil while doing the teleportation projects at first, he felt bad for the people who went through the portal and decides to go through it by himself, unaware that its hell, and when he returned, that where he changed.

[@CyberKnightMiky]

Never though you would be in this comment, what a surprise

[@NEEDbacon]

I mean, that's a fair enough reason to turn evil. But did no one notice he came out a bit evil? And like I assume all the people who went in before him probably came out wrong so there's precedent to keep an eye on him.

[@LordExor]

Actually no, it was revealed in the BFG Edition that he was always evil and spoke to the demons in his dreams. They offered him ultimate power in exchange for a portal to Earth, and surprisingly, they kept their end of the bargain.

[@Kalrak]

@@NEEDbacon If you work in the army or a something related you would know you don't question orders you do what you are told to ...

[@NEEDbacon]

@@Kalrak I mean, there's not questioning orders. Then there's ignoring the fact your captain or whoever went through a portal known to warp people and corrupt them is acting like an edgelord. Then again common military tend to regard higher up as insane or stupid in some capacity anyway and probably figure they're just now noticing it.

[@ApertureAce]

One of the things I love about the plasma rifle is the reload sound. It just sounds so crisp and chunky if that makes any sense

[@GashimahironChl]

Yep, sound fx on that game was all over the place but the plasma rifle was all right.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@GashimahironChl Weapon firing sounds were ass (mostly, the rocket launcher is neat), but the reloads were great (mostly [looks at pistol]).

[@paperclip6377]

​@@DinnerForkTongue why does everyone hate the pistol reload sound? I think it sounds satisfying.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@paperclip6377 It sounds extremely light and fragile, like a Nerf or a Super Soaker.

[@indeimaus]

before my family had internet I had the DOOM 3 trailer downloaded from somehwere on my PC and would just watch it over and over... I can't believe how old this game is for how it looks

[@hedrocs]

It looks good graphics pleb!

[@meowmymix3957]

@@hedrocs I'm pretty sure that's what he is saying.

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

Doom 3 still has the best lighting of any game ever created. Don't @ me.

[@exiledPostman]

For a 16 year old game, it still looks damn fine.

[@meowmymix3957]

@@GoredonTheDestroyer I wonder if everyone wrote shadows the same way the original fear has very similar dynamic lighting styles even though they are 2 separate engines.

[@kevinrambo6456]

I love the radio chatter when hell invades. They're breaking through the walls!

[@Terf1988]

yeah I'm a sucker for action-horror scenes like that, similar to the police station scene in Terminator 1.

[@DonkeyFish.]

DOOM 3 They're breaking through the walls! me There in the trees

[@jamesedleymusic]

A great way to keep the player on edge.

[@shroudthewolf1105]

@@jamesedleymusic THEY'RE BREAKING THROUGH THE WALLS OH GOD HELP MEE AAAHA THIS IS DELTA TWO WE NEED BACK U..... WE HAVE IJURED HEY WAYCH OUT BEHIND And when you look at the monitor you see an possessed mars security guy kill a marine and walk forward then snapped at the camera then static.

[@MistyRainne]

I appreciate them trying to go in a new direction for the third installment, and I can enjoy it for what it is, but Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 1 and 2 have withstood the test of time much better.

[@thehm3840]

MistyRainne BRUH

[@thehm3840]

Anthony Johnson oh hol up

[@Typanoid]

@Anthony Johnson It was popular to shit on it already when it was a newly released game back in 2004.

[@doomgod314]

I loved this game entirely too much, probably because it was one of my first “real” mods I wrote, modifying the weapons files with notepad. Added bounce to the machinegun rounds, turned the shotgun into a rifle, and extended the glow effect of the plasma rifle to about 30 ft. I increase it to more, but on low-spec graphic settings, the entire screen was bright blue, so I turned it down for compatibility. Oh, and I modified the UAC greeting email to include the locker combinations.

[@muttproductions2536]

Where do I download this mod?

[@doomgod314]

@@muttproductions2536 give me time to find the files and I'll get you a link

[@muttproductions2536]

@@doomgod314 thank you. I've personally had little experience playing DOOM 3, but it's definitely a game I enjoy because I like horror, although iD screwed up somewhere with some of the items, which hopefully this mod will address for me. Still, the vanilla DOOM 3 experience is much better than Aliens: Colonial Marines. (Fuck off, Randy Pitchford)

[@gabrielblanchard3081]

@@doomgod314 did you find

[@dexketristo2349]

@@doomgod314 So yeah... A-About that mod link... How about it, broseidon? :P

[@parker7411]

Palpatine: " I am the board " Counselor Swann: "not yet" Palpatine: "it's treason then" Also palpatine: *sends one email to earth

[@Ribbons0121R121]

oh no not an email what ever shall i do

[@Christopher-D]

Hey Civvie when you make pro half life you should call it "Pro Life" despite the fact that the final boss is a giant fetus.

[@Mortablunt]

There better be a coathanger mod somewhere.

[@CrimsonKnyght]

@@Mortablunt I mean compare that to the crowbar, pretty much the same thing XD

[@Valkyries733]

Chris Dantinne Holy shit

[@Pancombine18]

"Pro" He is playing games on easy or medium.

[@jcdentongaming1304]

@@Pancombine18 tell that to doom

[@ResskCSF]

Best plasma gun sound for sure, at least on the reload. that capacitor whine is bliss

[@0kisshun0]

yeah, doom 3 plasma gun is forever favorite.

[@m-w-y7325]

feels like the hiss of a cold one with the demon bois

[@arodreth]

sound is the best feedback you get from an FPS weapon, and I think that's why the plasma is great in this game. The design is slick too!

[@scottl.1568]

+1

[@Valkyries733]

Perfected doom 3 replaces the shoot sounds with a modified classic DOOM one. It’s amazing. I love the Doom 3 sound too though

[@0v_x0]

John Carmack forgot hyperdimensional reality adjuster in his thank you credits. "Programmer, Co-Owner." So humble.

[@albertdeluxe8966]

I'm amazed of how much of Doom 3's iconography made it into Doom 2016.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

It was great iconography, to be fair.

[@Clay3613]

Shame they fucked up the speed of combat in 2016, way too fucking fast and ADHD!

[@wrongemail5242]

Clay3613 that’s good. Doom is meant to be fast

[@albertdeluxe8966]

@@DinnerForkTongue I like it. It feels that it ties all the games together with the gameplay and art style of what came before. Doom 2016 may not be perfect; but a lot of the decisions made were genius. I don't get very excited or hyped anymore; however, I am looking forward to Doom Eternal just to see what they do next and hoping they don't fuck it up (Like Wolfenstein)

[@david_escalante]

@@wrongemail5242 "that’s good. Doom is meant to be fast" Not really, it was fast because the game style or lack of proper technology back then, even the maps in Doom and Doom 2 dont make much sense and they allowed or even needed to be able to move, cmon, you can even outrun a rocket in Doom, that isn't really a design choice but more like a technical issue. Quake3 in the other hand is fast by design, but is fast in a way it makes sense. Current Doom games feel more like a parody of the classic dooms more like a real Doom game. While Doom3 was slow... painfully slow, at least it tried to make sense, current Doom games are just brainless shooters, they don't even have a campaign you can care about.

[@404nonexistent]

"humiliating the cyberdemon" I'm so glad this was a thing you followed through with. I hope to see it continue with Eternal.

[@punctuationman334]

Jimmy ButtWhiff lol, humiliating bootleg cyber demons in eternal.

[@Wolverine2532]

“Tyrants”

[@sorrenblitz805]

The first time I ran into one on Eternal I immediately crucible slashed that thing

[@deltaforce5000]

Respect for the Seb avatar

[@SRGIProductions]

There's a sub-series in Resurrection of Evil that I like "Humiliating the Vulgar".

[@snake698]

Designer: *tries to create realistic water reflections in the sewers* Civvie: ThEre iS watER in ThE ceiLInG

[@newentry.-.8086]

snake698 Water reflections that strong in a poorly lit area? Odd.

[@snake698]

@@newentry.-.8086 It's not like you can create "subtle" reflections with the original doom engine... The reflections work like any other light source haha

[@newentry.-.8086]

snake698 True

[@Mik5757]

@@snake698 You could, with some custom textures.

[@snake698]

@@Mik5757 Or using GZDOOM for modern lightning, yeah. But that's not something the original level designer could do, haha.

[@Lord_Samael_de_Monasteriis]

5:20 Veteran: The Marine takes 170% of the base damage. Nightmare: The Marine takes 350% of the base damage. All med kits are removed from the game, and the player's health steadily drains until it's 25 or below.

[@emildelapena979]

that's why the "nightmare mode" literally a nightmare. the creepiness might be increased because the removed medikits. only your equipped weapons and health station were your allies.

[@raahim11]

@@emildelapena979 Exactly, That is why the Soul Cube is given in the beginning. Or else, you have to genuinely play a no damage to even finish it.

[@emildelapena979]

@@raahim11 Unfortunately, This Ain't No Available In Resurrection Of Evil And The Lost Mission. It Was Replaced With The Ancient Artifact.

[@emildelapena979]

@@raahim11 Soulcube Is The Most O.P Weapon In The Game. Capable To Instakill Any Non-Boss Enemies.

[@raahim11]

@@emildelapena979 a Fully charged Artifact is also pretty OP, being able to just punch a Frickin Hell Knight, Mancubus and Bruiser while no selling their entire attack is a literally POWER Trip.

[@chimerschang]

17:39 "Do we really need so much firepower laying around?" *Nods vigorously*

[@adamgray1753]

I seriously laughed out loud at that part.

[@Schregger]

"Well... yes..."

[@greybayles7955]

The American public @ congressman

[@Billywhitebread4]

Lmfao

[@FractalShoggoth]

I have arrived at this comment four years later to note that it has 666 likes at this time. Perfect.

[@michaelhulcy6680]

Holy crap Civvie. I just played the opening of Doom 3 and I initially thought you or Katie just edited the text the guy was typing out. You weren’t! That shit was real!!

[@hoogachakahoogahooga]

Even at their lowest points, ID Software is funny as hell.

[@michaelhulcy6680]

@@hoogachakahoogahooga I feel ya. They did a decent effort though.

[@paldinox1]

@@hoogachakahoogahooga Eh, I wouldn't really say Doom 3 was their lowest point, late 2000s was much worse.

[@AndalusianPrince]

@@hoogachakahoogahooga "lowest point" you're the reason why this fandom is dogshit.

[@Freaky144]

@@paldinox1 what did they even do in the late 2000's?

[@StarkeRealm]

Fun Trivia: Doctor Betruger's name is absurdly on the nose. It's just the German word for Betrayer.

[@alfadur0466]

Right! Betrüger

[@Maniac536]

I heard it meant deceiver or cheater

[@wurmalex2879]

@@Maniac536 The correct translation for Betrayer would´ve been Verräter, so yeah its more like deceiver. Not like it matters much since both are right on the nose.

[@dakotacross1519]

its said that the old doc was the 1st to enter their portal experiment and came back "changed". even when i was little i felt that the real doctor is long dead but his body is just possessed.

[@StarkeRealm]

@@wurmalex2879 Yeah, there is a bit of nuance there.

[@coyote4326]

"Only one man stands between hell and earth..." *comes off the elevator looking like he has to clench his butt cheeks together so he can make it to the bathroom before he shits his pants* How did ID see that and think... "yeah, this looks badass!" If anything it feels more like something you'd see in a spoof or satire.

[@Kadett-rr7ry]

I like to think that they didn't go for "badass" because you can't really out-badass the Doom Guy.

[@sorrenblitz805]

I assumed he was injured I was used to games not having damage mesh in games at the time. I think by that time the only games I played that had visible damage on enemies were Soldier of Fortune and Chasm the Rift. Ironically Doom3 actually did have damage meshes for their enemy NPC's, it surprised me cause before it'd just be like oh this guy got his leg or arm or head blown off but no Doom 3 had body damage bloody wound meshes it felt very visceral in 2004.

[@sigma6656]

@@sorrenblitz805 Looks like how I walk after I've been driving for 10 hours, or crouched down for a really long time. I wonder if it's supposed to be intentionally funny, because I giggled.

[@videojamesvidj6742]

@@Kadett-rr7ry I have horrific IBS, I appreciate the representation

[@worldcomicsreview354]

I remember somebody was making a Doom 3 mod with it's own cutscenes back in the day, and there was a hilarious scene of an imp just picking up a guy's head off his body like it was nothing.

[@johannlabertaler6095]

24:55 this is a stock sound of a guy screaming, just slightly altered, I used it once for a school project and I keep hearing it everywhere ever since, I hate it

[@senkodan]

I think I heard it in C&C: Tiberian Sun

[@maxonwolf5841]

Johann Labertaler “Nothing breaks immersion like sound assets mostly comprised of stock sound effects..~!” -Dasboschitt

[@MrTehWurld]

It's in Twisted Metal Black as well, all i could think of

[@joshuaxiong8377]

@@maxonwolf5841 I hope boschitt is doing okay. That's a name from a far gone era. XD

[@donnieburnett4622]

Harvester

[@vinesauceobscurities]

"Cyberdemon upskirt" is the last thing I expected to be mentioned in here.

[@GmodPlusWoW]

You'd expect that from something like HDoom, but not in Civvie's Dungeon. Though with that in mind, it wouldn't be too outlandish to have a succubus enemy in Doom. They don't even need to be particularly lewd: hell, they could be reinterpreted as being related to Mancubi, maybe even a little like the Broodmother of Dragon Age.

[@JeanMarceaux]

Vinesauce obscurities was the last thing I was expecting to find in Civvie's comment section

[@mokenetgumshoe1064]

The biggest problem I have with it is how the monsters dissolve into Ash right away. If they need into guts and bloody goo it would be better, or if they'd just pile up, that'd be kool. But I really like the emphasis on horror in this entry

[@gipsydanger5802]

Uhhhhh wtf

[@Allen.Christian]

Oh, they didn't reject Reznor's sound effects. Instead of paying him to come in and score at the end, they had him on retainer to do all the sound work, but they didn't realize it was going to take four years to make the game, so it got to where they couldn't afford him anymore.

[@MasonShmason]

"You can't hide from TNT forever, Civvie" And this prophecy has been fulfilled.

[@ZuluRomeo]

The Prophecy requires engagement

[@Intestine_Ballin-ism]

At what cost..

[@TAAAKYON]

​@@Callahan-zg6jnin KZbin shorts

[@InvalidPointer]

Huge Doom 3 nerd, nice to see you playing. A few grognard tidbits: - The shotgun has a pellet spread approaching 22°, or about an order of magnitude larger then what you'd expect from real shot. I think this is intentional as a sort of proto-Glory Kill mechanic-- the theoretical damage potential is in the Revenant-blapping range (as observed) but in order to actually achieve you need to move aggressively and remain in a more risky position to get around the low rate of fire. A direct port of the Doom/Doom II shotgun would likely have been the only weapon players would ever use; while not a slight on that particular iteration I think id wanted some more gameplay variety. Whether or not they succeeded is debatable. - Dead enemies take headshot damage and will actually gib more quickly if shot in the head - In addition to major advancements in graphics technology, Doom 3 also pioneered in audio mixing. It was one of the first games I'm aware of to forego any sort of 'ambient' audio and have every sound in the game have some source in the world-- exceptions for the music in the menu. Unfortunately the re-releases and GPL open-source versions of the game did not include the reverb systems in the original release. - Carmack's Reverse/Z-fail stencil shadowing was actually invented by some engineers at Creative Labs (the Sound Blaster people) prior to JC's rediscovery and dissemination in Doom 3. Later ports and the GPL releases do not use it at all for legal reasons.

[@marrvynswillames4975]

the audio is really good, of course, i'm not an fan of the "let's try to spook with sounds", but is really good.

[@alephnole7009]

That explains the feeling of Dejavoo I get when playing games with my sound blaster card installed.

[@kireta21]

Why crap shotgun? 2 words: small spaces. They had to nerf shotgun into oblivion somehow, because how resource intense engine was. 2 most common performance saving solutions are to either cut down on blows and whistles, or to remove things from sight of player. Because it was meant to be engine selling game, no.1 was not an option, so Id decided to go with no.2, which resulted in short engagement ranges, which would strongly favor shotgun.

[@JarJarBinks4ever]

>Doom 3 also pioneered in audio mixing The Thief games also had a sound system like that

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

I'm a huge Doom 3 apologist, but I don't think the shotgun is excusable.

[@sernoddicusthegallant6986]

"I cant play TNT because its boring" - Civvie "Im gonna do videos on Wiliam Shatner's Tekwar and Postal 3" - also Civvie I see Civvie is dodging his responsibilities like they were mancubus volleys. I hearby request that CV-11 gets locked in a room with cancer mouse for his only company until he complies with regulation.

[@Solidpwner94]

Then again, TNT could just be plain boring, as opposed to the oxymoronic amusingly/fascinatingly boring.

[@Skios]

To be fair, those games are terrible, a waste of data, some of the worst video games of all time, but they're not boring.

[@eduardodiaz9942]

Civvie did videos on those because, while terrible games, they make for entertaining videos. Unlike TNT.

[@sernoddicusthegallant6986]

To those replying saying that those games are bad but not boring, I will grant that for Tekwar, but postal 3 was incredibly boring. Arguably more so than TNT once you get over the shock of how stupid it is. Not to mention he also covered Blood 2 which literally reused map segments and Corridor 7 which speaks for itself. But most importantly, playing TNT may be boring... but that dosent mean watching someone suffer through TNT would be. Civvie has made the above mentioned games fun to watch so he can certainly do it here.

[@mugwump7049]

@Manek Iridius LOL!

[@AcidGlow]

The game had a good story if you stop and read the notes and listen to the audio logs 🙂

[@marrvynswillames4975]

i liked the PDA

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

Again" SHUT THE FUCK UP DEMONS I"M TRYING TO LISTEN TO PDA VIDEOS!!"

[@shroudthewolf1105]

@@sheilaolfieway1885 *beep beep. Downloading PDA file* Me: oooh lore Imp: *screech* Me: SHUT THE FUCK UP *BLASTS IT WITH BFG* now where was I *open PDA*

[@tbone9474]

I loved the little names of where you were. Adds to the immersion

[@kinagrill]

and a lot of those notes and logs were people dying horribly :p

[@nathanmcdonald610]

One of my favorite things about the gore in this game is how people brains just pop out as their bodies disintegrate around them.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Even when the body is headless, which is hilarious 😂

[@DjTake1One]

I always used to make sure to gib every zombie and destroy every dead body just because I thought that it was hilarious when the brain just flew out, perfectly intact.

[@st.haborym]

Yeah it's fucking great

[@scottl.1568]

God, I forgot how awesome the UAC corporate "explainer" videos were.

[@EnjoyCocaColaLight]

Some Portal2 stuff right there.

[@nemtudom5074]

Almost as amazing as the similar explainers in the PS2 ratchet and clank games!

[@DinnerForkTongue]

I tend to look for them to watch on my free time. Same with audio logs.

[@PoisonedAl]

"Power generation on Mars produces two byproducts: Steam and green goo!"

[@Grim_Pinata]

In general, Doom 3's UI and animation was really top notch for 2003. The computer terminals being fully interactive and animated is still pretty impressive to this day.

[@ganstacube2904]

As someone who has done modding to doom3, you are correct about the zsec zombies having more accurate shotguns. Their shotguns have a cone spread of 5, while the player's is 22

[@DinnerForkTongue]

And if you mod yours to have that spread without reducing the buckshot count, hoo boy do you have an overpowered piece of kit.

[@ganstacube2904]

@@DinnerForkTongue Of course. Supposedly to compensate for the spread, the player shotgun fires 13 pellets as opposed to the zsec's 7 pellets (which is also the number of pellets in the original doom games)

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@ganstacube2904 TvTropes/PowerfulButInaccurate much? But yeah, I said that because modding the buckshot count is not in the .def file, so it may confuse the hell out of aspiring young modders like me back in the day. I only found out the projectile count was in the .script file by sheer serendipity a few years ago; never messed with the file out of fear of breaking an animation and causing CTDs.

[@marrvynswillames4975]

Also, i sometimes saw they shot way faster than the player can

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@marrvynswillames4975 That they do, like it's a semi-auto. Probably to compensate for the lower power of their shotguns.

[@Kyntteri]

Talking about voice actors. I think Doomguy and Gordon Freeman are done by the same person.

[@lonewanderer798]

I don't know man, Doomguy voice performance is vastly different than Gordon Freeman. Or maybe the voice actor was that good. Still doesn't have that feel y'know?

[@Logicon1138]

They're waiting for you Doomguy.. in the torture chamber

[@reloadpsi]

Which Doomguy? The one in Doom 1/2 and the one in 3 had different actors.

[@EternallyEve]

@@reloadpsi I think he means the Doom 3 voice actor. Don't forget that they brought back the original VA for Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal! God I love video games..

[@reloadpsi]

@@EternallyEve The funny thing is, I genuinely can't tell if that one's a joke or not, because we do know the name of who did those grunts and screams...

[@sigma6656]

6:04 That's hilarious. The idea of someone being so passive that they'd communicate with someone reading what they write by writing, instead of just turning to them and being like "dude, can you please stop?"

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

The Chainsaw is ridiculously powerful (and fun) in Doom 3, you can fight basically any enemy in the game with some quick maneuvering and ducking, and then splitting them from the groin up. A Chainsaw run is about the most enjoyable way to play the game IMO. If you're really quick, you can take Hellknights by moving into their melee range and constantly baiting them to strike, Mancubodes swing in a wide arc so it's not as easy, but if you manage to circle them to reach their back, it's doable. Cacos go down real easy with the saw as well. Arch-Viles are (regrettably) complete pushovers and if you just get up in their grill while they're casting you can split them in a second or two. Can you tell that I love the Chainsaw?

[@pistool1]

So stupid that enemies just vaporize after killing them. That does not fit in a DooM game at all :D

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

@@pistool1 I was always dissappointed by that, but at the same time I get why it's like that.

[@Sentinello]

Hell knights are pretty easy at range too, there’s a midrange where they’re tough but if you have enough distance it’s really easy to just step forward and duck under their plasma balls. The Spider Queen is a lot of fun to close in on too, she tries to punch you and it’s her only move that doesn’t practically auto-hit.

[@scratchyass2369]

Fuck yeah! I knew i couldn't be the only one who knew about the way of the demon slaying lumberjack!

[@returnofbeaux]

Bruce Campbell would probaby approve.

[@matthew55793]

7:01 "Since you're the ranking FNG, you get to find him." I played this game when I was 13 but I only just now understood that.

[@thecoton6152]

Mind explaining ? I still don't understand it.

[@aitorjimenez2705]

@@thecoton6152 FNG means fucking new guy, which is who usually gets the bad jobs

[@thecoton6152]

@@aitorjimenez2705 Oh. Ok I don't know how I missed it now. Thanks.

[@xponen]

I didn't even notice all that locked weapon, I only had rifle and shotgun fought up to the Commando type enemy and gave up... this game is probably too subtle or didn't care if player missed thing.

[@Kitto0]

@Old Liquid perfectly said

[@puppeteerpal3699]

Civvie hates tnt so much hes moving on to future installments, we'll probably get pro doom eternal before tnt

[@nonenothing4412]

LOL

[@eduardodiaz9942]

Well, I think he said all that needed to be said about TNT here

[@Minority119]

Pro Dead Space before he does TNT

[@Tycitron]

Poor TNT, Gets hated on too much imo.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

TNT definitely has its flaws, but it has a lot of good maps, and the music is excellent.

[@youfube-]

5:17 I can't believe how I missed this earlier, when the MARSEC text on his helmet cuts just so that it reads 'ARSE' I bet id did this on purpose.

[@bloodrunsclear]

'Do we really need so much firepower laying around?' *nodding intensifies*

[@sorrenblitz805]

I mean how else will I exterminate all life on Mars.

[@thousandyoung]

Cocaine: The Comic

[@Fragtastik]

"Doom 3 kicks ass in VR, like it was made for it or something" I said this exact same thing, almost word for word, when I experienced the game in VR.

[@AkiRa22084]

It's so good!

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Does it have armswinger locomotion?

[@Fragtastik]

@@DinnerForkTongue Last time I played it had linear motion. Touchpad made you walk around.

[@nana-cc6yk]

exact almost hmmm

[@Web720]

@Chris Martin steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1377965478 Keep in mind it needs the BFG Edition! Not the OG! BFG Edition originally had, and still do, VR elements: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYeniYucl99mh6c In that video John Carmack talks about VR support for BFG Ed.

[@Dylan-cu4ty]

*Doom* to *Doom 3* to *Doom(2016)* is such a wild transition. Still kind of hard to get my head around, but thankful for all of it.

[@spinyjustspiny3289]

Sarge is even more hilarious. I remember back when Doom 3 was relatively new, some tips n tricks videos pointed out how long his intro animation was by showing you could just take the chainsaw out, make out with him while you hold down the attack button for about ten seconds and he STILL dies before he can even attack you

[@here4good]

The fact that most of the game is darker than a Kingdom Hearts villain's wet dream. I shouldn't be able to see my reflection during gameplay. Ah well, at least we can get a "your memory serves you well" message whenever we use a classic doom cheat on console command

[@derlich09]

"Blacker than the blackest black times infinity!!"

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Darker than a chocolate mousse cake stuck in Barry Allen's armpit. (Or something like that, I don't remember 🤷‍♀️)

[@Collins42]

-Pro Doom 3 -Doesn't know you can duck the commando's whip jk luv u civvie bby

[@jamstonjulian6947]

Yeah, even I knew that!

[@ArcturusOTE]

Well he probably shares some of the D3 hate mentality the community had so he doesn't go deep enough learning its quirks

[@restlessfrager]

@@ArcturusOTE I don't get it. Doom 3 is a weird take on Doom but it's a good game for sure.

[@arnox4554]

I don't know. Even besides the commando whip dodging, I think he really pussied out by not doing Nightmare. If anyone has time, watch a Doom 3 Nightmare speedrun. One of the most satisfying speedruns you can watch. A prominent FPS runner (DraQu I believe) also said that it was his absolute favorite game to run.

[@lovecraftcat]

he's basically a boomer games journalist

[@CassandraFortuna]

I remember having a really hard time figuring out the BFG office code as a kid. For some reason it never occurred to me the guy was just an idiot who wanted his code to be 9000, so I spent an hour looking around for a PDA I had missed.

[@stefank188]

You know what that means? Resurrection of Evil and Lost Mission.

[@ultraspinalki11]

I hope he also covers the Co-op mode that was exclusive to Doom 3 on Xbox. It's a goddamn shame the BFG Edition didn't bring it back...

[@stefank188]

@@ultraspinalki11 I didn't even that it had coop mode because I only played the BFG Edition.

[@markhirsch6301]

The Super Shotgun in Resurrection of Evil is amazing. Or at least I remember it being amazing

[@stefank188]

@@markhirsch6301 I think it was I remember running up to a hell knight shooting his head and killing him instantly.

[@markhirsch6301]

@@stefank188 Jesus Christ that's even more powerful than the OG I believe. Now, imagine if you could duel wield them

[@fabledorchid8410]

Doom 3 will always have a special place in my heart.

[@r1too]

I play video games. I am 50+ years old. I was there for Quake. That means I was one of the first humans to play an online game, TCP/IP, with another human. I wish I could show you what I saw and what that was like. You didn't just click multiplayer. You had to know port numbers and IP addresses that were from a list printed out from the internet. It may take 20 minutes to find a server to connect to. I was on a modem and it was awesome. I don't subscribe to gaming channels. (With exception to Angry Joe) I find the content childish and annoying usually. The channels do pop up in my feed, or I search for the game I am interested in.. This dude Civvie recently popped up in my feed. He has it goin' on... All boxes checked. Subbed. Nice work.

[@soylentgreenb]

These things are way older than you expect. Online multiplayer predates the internet and home computers. E.g. Maze War which was playable over ARPAnet in 1974 and is arguably also a first person shooter. There was a graphical MMO for the commodore 64 (habitat) and before that there were MUDs for home computers.

[@nephatrine]

How can someone complain most gaming channels childish... but sub to Angry Joe.

[@aschtheconjurer]

@r1too You might wanna look into a couple of other channels like Mandalore Gaming and LGR: they too are far more mature channels that like doing very long-form essay-like videos, that will often also cover any extra faffing around that needs to be done to get games working; LGR in particular VERY OFTEN likes to actually source things like old 386s and such to try and literally recreate the "back in the 70s/80s/90s" experience for older games like Duke3D and Commander Keen.

[@SRGIProductions]

I hear dial-up tones in my dreams, and I'm only 22.

[@brosephnoonan223]

>childish gaming chanels no >angry joe yes Fucking what?

[@vissova]

imo one of the scariest things about this game isn't even something intentional that the player is ever meant to experience, which is noclipping and exploring outside the maps. For example you can noclip to find the giant flesh thing used in the teleport sequence at 23:05, and it's terrifying because you're just floating in an infinite black void next to this enormous (seriously it's huge) spinning flesh tube illuminated by strobe lights in total eerie silence. This game might have encouraged my weird fear of massive objects floating in large empty spaces. Edit: Here's a video of what I'm talking about /watch?v=p4DV-2XjBBg

[@DaveDexterMusic]

Is there any way you can experience this fear again for a video of this? It sounds fucking wild.

[@man-bq8rh]

Yes, please record this if possible. There are literally NO videos of this on KZbin.

[@vissova]

@@man-bq8rh /watch?v=p4DV-2XjBBg

[@spenceduggs]

That's... A special brand of unsettling

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

Fooking RAW.

[@FloydPinkerton]

I have had the Doom 3 main menu/end theme stuck in my head since my dad first got it for me when I was 10 years old. Also funfact, Doom3 marine's look is based on Kevin Cloud, who originally modeled doomguy's hands in doom 1 and 2.

[@pistool1]

Thanks for the info, never knew about Mr. Cloud :)

[@GiuseppeLombardo4]

I remember even when I was younger thinking the Doom 3 theme was a total rip of Tool - Lateralus. Hearing it again a decade later, yep, it totally is.

[@Terf1988]

I really liked the Doom 3 intro song because it sounded ominous like a John Carpenter song.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

His scabbed knee was also part of a hellish texture, as was the hairs on his arm XD

[@giantzombiechild]

The concept of a "Hell Spaceship" is actually cool as fuck and I wish TNT actually had something like that reenactment.

[@5000Seabass]

Jo291 Jordan event horizon

[@ReticentSparrow]

@@5000Seabass Gah. You beat me to it!

[@TheDevouredEagle]

The Zerg overlords moving through space accompanied by a lot of scourges and mutalisks comes to mind 🤔 or maybe an infested command center just slowly moving towards you while it spawns demons all around you

[@TerrorLTZ]

@@TheDevouredEagle the doom mapping community will start doing some black magic like that wad where it build itself... impressive stuff.

[@0lionheart]

@@TheDevouredEagle Tyranid Hive Fleet?

[@theycallmejojo6090]

You can’t run from Daikatana forever, you must confront it.

[@cropathfinder]

he still has doom RoE and doom 2016 to go before eternal or as we already know it doom eternal fuk up

[@Dragonfury3000]

Is daikatana that bad? Never played it

[@Terf1988]

he should play with the 1.3 patch! I don't see why he'd have to play the original if the patch significantly improves things

[@RetroDeathReviews666]

@@Dragonfury3000 No it's really really not. The first episode is pretty boring/terrible, and the sidekick AI is piss poor (mainly where the negativity comes from, which can now be fixed with the 1.3 patch), but everything else is actually quite good with the game. I mean, nobody really seems to know this but the air control in that game is actually even *better* than Quake's, Romero himself said that and when I actually gave it a chance and tried it out I was really surprised.

[@MegaFat1]

How could he possibly miss out on Superfly Johnson? Truly the best character of Daikatana.

[@RegalRoyalWasTaken]

People who say the shotgun sucking increased tension 1: Most of the other weapons are solid and very useful so this is completely inconsistent with the design philosophy of the rest of the game’s arsenal. 2: That doesn’t make it good design. You can have good weapons in horror games! Lost in Vivo is a really good horror game with by and large good, useful weapons. They’re somewhat situational but they feel good to use. Especially the shotgun. Yeah it shoots salt pellets instead of shells(which makes it immensely good against ghost enemies), so it’s not a total powerhouse, but it’s well animated, it sounds good, and it feels impactful at mid range as well. And it’s CONSISTENT.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

The D3 shotgun is a classic case of "two wrongs don't make a right". They bestowed upon it far too much firepower, and rather than, say, removing some of it, they decided to offset it with melee range. I say with a full mouth that I can mod the shotgun to a much better version than vanilla, and what it SHOULD have been: at 7 degrees of spread with 7 pellets, it has reasonable (but still short) range and can _consistently_ one-shot an imp still, but only if you score a solid headshot. Whiff even one buckshot and guess what? It's still alive, still pissed, and that ratchets up the tension. And considering plenty of demons are way tougher than imps...

[@RegalRoyalWasTaken]

@@DinnerForkTongue Would you happen to have that mod anywhere because I got around to playing doom 3 and I am in zero mood to even TRY putting up with the shotgun for an entire game after experiencing how bad it is

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@RegalRoyalWasTaken Not right now, but when I get access to the files, I can give you instructions. As long as you have Notepad and WinRAR/7-Zip, it's dead easy.

[@RegalRoyalWasTaken]

@@DinnerForkTongue Very much appreciated!

[@scampers789]

Ah, Doom 3. It certainly was a different direction, but damn I loved that game. For me, my earliest memories of Doom was fear. I was a very young child when I was first introduced to the original Doom. I'd watch my older brother play and was absolutely terrified. I'd always refuse when he offered to let me play. But then one night at like 11pm the curiosity got the best of me and I sat down and played through all of the original episodes in one sitting. The atmosphere and gorey imagery (soldiers impaled, crucified, squirming on chains, hellscapes, etc) scared the SHIT out of 12 year old me. I had nightmares for weeks, filled my notebooks with gorey Doom art, I was absolutely addicted. I never got into the custom map community or anything like that, just loved the game for scaring the shit out of me. Of course, I got older and the feelings of fear whenever I played faded. But Doom 3 dropped when I was 18 and those old feelings of sitting in a dark room in the middle of the night having a game scare the shit out of me was back! It was very satisfying. It might not have had the gameplay nostalgia, but for me it definitely brought back the fear nostalgia. It doesn't scare me anymore, but I still replay Doom 3 every couple years or so.

[@aaz1992]

I first played when I was 4. Not scary when you don't realize what anything is. Lol

[@francescoperi7810]

Exactly that! Most people don't remember that original Doom was sometimes dark as hell on certain VGA monitors and that jumpscares, fear, monsters in the closet, more fear, more darkness, and slow exploration were as much a part of the fun as the big slaughterfests we got used to later, when everybody got better and faster and insane .wads came out. I loved Doom3!

[@fpaltenhoff86]

I played the ps1 version of doom originally and I feel that Doom 3 best aligns with that port of the original game. They turned it from you feeling like a badass mowing down demons from to feeling totally isolated and taking caution with each step just from changing the music and making some graphical tweaks to make it darker

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@soulsphere9242 Back to Saturn X (two 32-level wads so far), Eviternity, Ancient Aliens, Plutonia 2, Valiant, Memento Mori II, the Doom The Way Id Did series, Sunlust (an accessible challenge for everyone in lower difficulties), Vanguard, Plutonia Revisited, Sigil... the list of awesome goes on.

[@MegaSmouke]

Yep. Also on pair with great sound desing. This working machinery in Doom 3 make so creepy sound. Also one of scariest game I ever played. I remember when I played it at night in headphones, without saving during level and just stopped playing and decided to continue at the morning because I was horrified. It so funny when people on youtube playing Doom 3 on easiest difficulty, saving after every corner, talking that Doom 3 is nothing special and not scarry at all.

[@BalgaBear]

Doom 3 is a legend to me still. I love the aesthetic, the overall fear and the amazing graphics for the time.

[@marrvynswillames4975]

the graphics doesn't look that good when compared with half life 2, the lighthing was great, still

[@independentthought3390]

@@marrvynswillames4975 They're hard to compare, very different art styles. Doom 3 did amaze me more when I first saw it back in 2004, though.

[@marrvynswillames4975]

@@independentthought3390 maybe it's nostalgia, i played both for the first time past year and HL 2 looks way better, it's models aged way better. maybe it's like some people say, that id tech 4 was made for dark games, since in the light secitions in, let's say, Quake 4, the models looks bad.

[@Dickkickem460]

@@marrvynswillames4975 I'm just going to throw it out there now for everybody I like half life 1 better than I like Half-Life 2 the episodic thing was bullshit and is also the same reason why we never got the story wrapped up because they were going to release a long game and segments instead of a relatively long game all at once and Half-Life 2 episode 2 was kind of shit I'm just going to say it

[@DriveCarToBar]

You should try The Dark Mod. It's a community game that uses the Tech 4 engine but with a number of improvements. It's basically a revamping of the original Thief and Thief 2 games but with all community made maps. It started as a mod for Doom 3/Quake 4 but is now standalone. It's a stealth game, so none of the action of Doom or Quake but it's awesome if you liked Thief. Some missions are quick and goal oriented and others are long, incredibly detailed with different objectives. Lots of them are just beautiful and really show what that engine could do. www.thedarkmod.com/main

[@grimthelover]

When my Parents were Seperated I was hanging out with my Dad in his apartment and He went out to go do something So I stayed in his apartment. about an hour later he Called me from Hollywood Video and told me He sees two cool games with awesome Cases that he wants to Rent and I got to choose. Either House of The Dead or Doom 3. Doom 3 will always be special to me no matter what because it helped me through a rough patch in my young life.

[@Terf1988]

Doom 3 was the first game I played when I got my first computer around that time so I'm nostalgic for it too.

[@Eric_Nomad_Hixtone]

OH GOSH The House of The Dead, this game also was part of my childhood as well... SO is D3 tbh, i even have a disk still!

[@DinnerForkTongue]

That's wholesome ❤

[@RockinEnabled]

Shit, the feels... I've gone through a similar experience too. But we were playing Doom 3 years before all of that happened.

[@MrLim-wq2gn]

26:05 I absolutely love the Soul Cube Voice acting.

[@MrSoopSA]

U S E U S !

[@Outcrow]

Marine: Don’t shoot civillians Civvie: *Proceeds shoot civillians* I knew I wasn’t the only one!

[@thenightcapnebulapod]

The shotgun is fine on the first two difficulty levels because of how forgiving the enemies are, but unacceptable after that. You have the expansion to do.....MUAHAHAHA!!

[@KitAkira1989]

With the super shotgun that isn't garbage, the "totally not the gravity gun from Half-Life 2, honest" weapon, and the OP-as-hell artifact that turns you into Saitama.

[@MegaSmouke]

Played on Veteran Difficulty without saving during levels. And shotgun is pretty good against particular monsters. In Doom 3 weapon works different compare to original Doom, there are usefull weapon against some particular monsters, like: Zombie - Pistol, Imp - Shotgun, Pinky - Plasmagun, Deamon Babie - Assault Rifle, and so on. Sad that people didn't recognize it and tried to use shotgun against everything like in original Doom and complains that shotgun is too weak.

[@gamemaniac2013]

Someone did make a mod to fix the bullshit shotgun.

[@Lt.Commander_Data]

​@@gamemaniac2013 I downloaded that and the duct tape before I even started playing Doom 3. The stock Shotgun sound sounds like absolute piss and is so unsatisfying, it sucks.

[@Nergalsama01]

Which shouldn't take too long.

[@nomercy8989]

I just realized that for the first time in 16 years we are getting a new DOOM and Half-Life game the same year

[@marrvynswillames4975]

Also a New halo

[@theshellderinslowbrostail5422]

The boys are back

[@MMMercia]

Apparently, DOOM 2016 doesn't exist

[@skotomogilnik6305]

@@MMMercia what part of half life released in 2016?

[@MMMercia]

@Nazi Zombie The comment sounds like both Half-Life: Alyx *AND* DOOM: Eternal are the first games in the series in 16 years. No biggie tho it's just a little youtube comment it's alright

[@GlycerinGhost]

"Pro Doom 3: RoE when Civvie?" In all seriousness, I do eventually see you finishing Doom 3, to include the Lost Mission, but after a solid period of pumping out Doom, I can't blame you for taking a break. I look forward to it! Other side notes: I honestly thought your comment of "And then you creep" was a gag you edited in, I wasn't expecting it to be in the game til I revisited it. The tentacle arm Commandos attack can be ducked under, not that you'll see many of them in RoE.

[@neon_pixels]

Here also to plead for some RoE goodness. We need Civvie's expert opinion on the double barrel shotgun. Also, there's this innovative device, the grabber, which totally has never been seen in other games.

[@neonman54]

Hey Civvie, your geuss about the shotgunners being more accurate is right. It says on the Doom wiki that thier shotgun spread is much more narrow then the player's

[@Klausinator451]

Bullshit! God that's lame!

[@sorrenblitz805]

Like what do they somehow get better shells than you do despite taking their ammo when you kill em? The barrel on their shotgun longer than yours somehow? That's horse shit. If it's the same shotgun the shotgun should work the same for both of us

[@neonman54]

@@sorrenblitz805 just how they programmed the game

[@shroudthewolf1105]

Guess the shotgunner have the Felwinter's Lie (Destiny 2 sniper crammed into a shotgun)

[@NEEDbacon]

@@sorrenblitz805 Maybe it just happened the first shotgun you picked up happened to be missing it's choke. A choke if you don't know tightens the spread on a shotgun.

[@beeeffgee10k]

Love that ending theme, even with how loudly it yells "TOTALLY NOT LATERALUS"

[@pistool1]

The bat demon thingy in the end sounded like a Godzilla :D

[@MaggitJef]

This felt, to me, like a DooM game where you weren't Doom guy

[@kungfuskull]

Canonically, you're not. You're just some guy.

[@MaggitJef]

@@kungfuskull I thought some of the recent lore made it so it was the Doom guy? I’ve a terrible memory so I couldn’t point to an example, sorry

[@kungfuskull]

@@MaggitJef there's a lineage of sons and grandsons between wolfenstein, commander keen, and doom. Doom 1+2 is the same person as doom 64, (as well as tnt and plutonia) who then dedicates himself to staying in alt dimensions and killing *all the things* to protect humanity and because he's gone a little nuts. In doom 4 (2016) he was tricked, trapped, then awoken and continues his work. And continues it further in Eternal. Doom 3: is just some dude. Source: literally all of the aforesaid games in all their series, as well as the official novelizations. There's tons of lore tidbits here and there, easter eggs, references, in-jokes, and flat-out disclaimers; all scattered about these various sources. Hope that helped. But yeah, d3 guy is just... a guy. Either very lucky or unlucky, depending on how you look at it.

[@linkandshiek5522]

@@kungfuskull I mean he's still a marine. Even Doomguy started out as a marine.

[@Masked_SVincent]

@@kungfuskull to me this almost explains slower gameplay too, you’re just kinda some dude tryna survive and what not, while doom guy turned into some hardened demon murdering machine

[@Sypaka]

Wait, lol. At 6:44 This guy is called "Dr. Malcolm Bertruger". Now, if you take his lastname and read it in german, you get "Betruger" or "Betrüger". Translate it in english, you get "fraud", "cheater", "scammer", something along the lines.

[@DJL3G3ND]

I just finished the game today, and Ive never understood why its so hated except for some gameplay elements. I actually struggled and died a lot and I was on marine difficulty, and I didnt even know you could duck under commando whips or shoot projectiles till right near the end. generally I loved it though, the story was somehow exciting and it was fun pretty much all. why am I writing a review in the comments idk

[@marrvynswillames4975]

i kinda get why some people complain, but i think it's an ok game

[@evan8654]

Agreed, I just finished today and the game really grew on me. I think the negativity comes from the first part of the game that relies so heavily on jump scares and the fact that the shotgun sucks.

[@DJL3G3ND]

yeah Id say some of the horror was pretty crappy but some was cool, personally I kinda like the shotgun cus if a point blank shot on an imp doesnt kill it I finish it off with pistol or punch it its really satisfying lol

[@StrikeNoir105E]

Most of the divisiveness comes from it being a far slower-paced game with more emphasis on survival horror elements. Not to mention a lot of the time fighting enemies in the dark was never very good in terms of execution, and the game pretty much pushes the feeling of the player being a hapless survivor at its fore. The main gist is that this game would've been better had it been pushed as its own IP, instead of being shackled by the idea of trying to be a "Doom" game.

[@independentthought3390]

​@@evan8654 That shotgun would be horrible in most games, but I loved it so much in Doom 3, that I finished the game using practically no other weapons. I like the sound too, I guess I love it because it's different. All other games at the time used the conventional type shotgun, and some of us welcomed the change.

[@Ziggy_Rotten]

Was that "a shot in the dark" midi? During the shotgun segment, if so ozzy would be proud.

[@davorbrijacak]

Yeah, just wanted to comment it's Shot in the Dark in midi. Glad I'm not the only one who noticed.

[@kankeydong2500]

"A shot in the dark" Very clever, civvie.

[@xmm-cf5eg]

clever girl

[@LaserfaceJones]

Ohhhhh shitttt what that's awesome.

[@cameronnewkirk5853]

Sure was

[@AOTD3025]

Ah, the Doom 3 shotgun. It might as well be a melee weapon for how close you have to be for it be effective. I distinctly remember modding the game to cut the spread on the shotgun in half to make it more usable.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

You're generous. I cut the spread to 7° every time I play, though it was so ridonkulously overpowered I rarely used it. It took me opening the script file out of curiosity one day to find out I could also alter the buckshot count; now I cut that by about half. And presto, classic workhorse shotty.

[@fcoonjj4844]

@@DinnerForkTongue how do you go about doing that?

[@k.vanagan382]

@@DinnerForkTongue ...When I played through D3 I had no idea about editting files. I now want to re-play through it doing this...

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@k.vanagan382 Definitely worth a try. It's much better without the shotgun being a constant source of frustration and insecurity.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@fcoonjj4844 There's this pk4 file, pak000. The files for the shotgun are in it - spread is in def, pellet count is in script. Alter the values to what you desire and boom, you're golden.

[@msmlover5628]

Timestamps/Chaperts Intro: 0:00 1, The Legacy: 2:40 2, The Shotgun: 9:08 3, Ultra-Violence and Darkness: 10:52 4, I Nerfed The Demons: 16:59 5, Execute Order 666: 19:04 6, Seven Minutes In Hell: 24:26 7, The End: 27:12 Awesome Music (Outro): 31:28

[@Terf1988]

I still use the line "took your sweet time marine". also I LOVE Betruger's laughs

[@expendableround6186]

Betruger’s laughter was awesome.

[@VagueLuminary]

THE MAD MAN DID IT PRO DOOM 2016 WHEN CIVVIE YOU'VE GOT A MONTH GET 'ER DONE

[@GreatDavu]

I think you mean "GO 2 IT"

[@TheGundamDude8045]

@@GreatDavu Look at all dem Cyberdemons, Archviles and Revenants.

[@Grease-Goblin]

I can picture him putting that out on the day that Doom Eternal launches.

[@Tactical_wulf5.56]

We've squeezed all the juice there possibly is to squeeze out of that game. There's nothing more to say about it other than it was awesome and a stick in the mud compared to what doom eternal is gonna be

[@Nero5th]

gotta do resurrection of evil first :)

[@JeanMarceaux]

"Welcome to the dungeon, Marine" *Here Boy starts playing*

[@kirillassasin]

*DEEP DARK FANTASIES* - id unknown 2145

[@zelg.5551]

"Welcome to the club, buddy." *assgrab*

[@SimaoRodrigues...]

*COME ONE COLLEGE BOY*

[@jackmcgwire2078]

Zel G. Best way to great

[@jordanjoestar9096]

18 doomslayers on a hell ranch, throbbing bfgs and shotguns cocked!

[@MrStephenRGilman]

"I gotta say, this whole situation going tits up, the radio chatter, the chaos, is..." ...remarkably similar to the Black Mesa incident?

[@Baegus]

"Why did they reject Trent Reznor's sound effects?" Because money. That's literally the reason.

[@kacperciesowski6198]

But that sound mod happens

[@jordanjoestar9096]

Its weird to realize this company that made doom 3 also made doom(2016) and are also doing doom eternal

[@BlazingShadowSword]

Is that why the guns sound like they couldn't frighten a jumpy rabbit? Is that why the shotgun sounds like it does less damage than it already does? My god.

[@TheSanvichMann]

Having never played doom i cant speak for the rest of the soundtrack but the end song sounds similar enough to lateralus by tool to put that earworm in my head

[@uncleteo8201]

@@TheSanvichMann My thoughts exaclty, and theres a little bit of third eye in there too

[@GreatFox42]

I really want that shotgun rant just by itself. Years of frustration released into one all-encompassing ball of catharsis.

[@Sayyar615]

69th like.

[@mal0561]

The “water on the ceiling” wasn’t water. It meant to emulate the light reflecting onto the ceiling from the water

[@beetheimmortal]

But the sewer is completely dark, so no light would reflect.

[@valletas]

Doom engine reflections everyone But really i think it looks kinda neat

[@noop9k]

@@beetheimmortal Duke3D does this a lot too.

[@roboticjanitor3332]

Key word being "meant"

[@Ayeloo]

finally someone else that got what it's meant to be There's am actual texture in the doom 2 iwad that's supposed to be metal plates with liwuid reflections tho, so it's odd they used regular slime

[@newnamesameperson397]

Just like how stroggification sequence is what people remember from quake 4 the radio chatter of hell breaking loose is what people remember from doom 3. it really sets the mood and yeah now a days looking back at the game it's goofy and not all that scary but we are looking at it in hindsight. Back in 2004 this game scared the shit out of me, just when you get used to the panic and mayhem on the radio it all stops and you realize you are all alone now, the opening honestly is the best part of the game and lives rent free in my head

[@H0MEW0RKtm]

Love it or hate it this game still gets talked about 16 years later...

[@godmagnus]

Because it's Doom. If it went by another name, it wouldn't be.

[@zachariasnoack4894]

And the originals are still relevant to this day.

[@zoltancsikos5604]

Robin Sequira Quite the contrary.

[@Comkill117]

Robin Sequira Honestly I feel like people would probably feel more unanimously positive about the game if it wasn’t doom. The level design is great, the atmosphere is amazing, and that main theme is worth the price of admission alone.

[@Disconnect350]

@@Comkill117 I wouldn't be a Doom fan if it wasn't for Doom 3, it's a worthy installment and is only hated by dudebro fanboys.

[@AngryGerbils]

Doom Marine's walk looks like he pooped in his armor.

[@Valkyries733]

He did

[@who_this_king]

That's Doom Marine, not Doomguy Don't do my boi like that

[@majorbensonwinifredpayne2158]

That animation is from alpha though. Movement animations in the final game are pretty good.

[@DarkOmegaMK2]

OH MY GOD SHIT HUMOR AM I RI GHT GUYS LOL PIOUFHXMHOM54HGO4U5X!!!!

[@DarkOmegaMK2]

@N M fuck you

[@HUDZHERRELL]

I could never once get scared playing this game. I was too busy laughing at the rag dolling imps and zombies gibbing into floating brains. The zombie soldiers with the long arms become completely harmless when you remember there is a crouch button.

[@Camper_Lv]

Lucky u. It was so spooky for my dumb ass that it took years to finish it and my brother who was watching me play, jumped from one of them imps behind the door that he wrecked my usb.

[@MulekeTrairao]

I was going to say the same thing about those soldiers. You can easily avoid their attacks by crouching.

[@Hubert_Cumberdale_]

@@MulekeTrairao yeah just do the imp dance with them

[@GuntanksInSpace]

Kid me enjoyed gibbing the Zombie ragdolls with the damn flashlight

[@Terf1988]

I was pretty spooked when I played it at 15, but now that I've seen plenty of horror movies it doesn't spoop me too much.

[@RaevenCCA]

I only now realised, while rewatching this, that the whole 1:37 bit about water in the ceiling is actually a primitive attempt to emulate caustic by TNT devs

[@Kevin-jb2pv]

28:37 that high score on turbo turkey puncher is the biggest achievement Civvie has ever accomplished on this channel.

[@guyvizard549]

PDA: "This is Frank Delahue, Engineer on Mars City...." Me: "No. You are Rob Paulsen, the original Raphael, Pinky, and Yakko Warner."

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Oh my god, you're kidding me.

[@goonerw27]

Dinner-fork tongue it’d be harder to name a 90s US cartoon in which he “didn’t” voice a character.

[@bannedaccount3752]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6LIaIaqgshkjtE

[@guyvizard549]

@@goonerw27 Exactly. He and Maurice LaMarche I can pick out within seconds of hearing them.

[@guyvizard549]

Also, Phil LaMarr does a couple voices!

[@vyrhem]

I'm glad you did this. Doom 3 is one of my favorite games. For the record, you can duck under the zombie commando's whip attacks. They become one of the least dangerous enemies.

[@keithprice1950]

I love Doom 3. I've always enjoyed the darker soundtracks, like the Aubrey Hodges soundtracks for PSX/N64 Doom and Quake 64, so I loved the atmosphere and feeling of Doom 3. The fact that you had to choose either a flash light or a gun. It felt slower but way more intense.

[@mrwiffler9942]

Yeah man, those weird arse soundscapes are so good.

[@darkzircon8165]

"How am I supossed to see the black guy die?" -Civvie, Doom movie review

[@CathrineMacNiel]

It WaS a SeArCh MiSsIoN!!!

[@razordoom1]

@@CathrineMacNiel [correction: first mission, the kid]

[@CathrineMacNiel]

@@razordoom1 oh. Oh! That makes so much more sense.

[@razordoom1]

@@CathrineMacNiel It's an honest mistake, Karl really hams the line

[@chaircheck2424]

You can do WHAT?!

[@ThePageofRage]

Well, that was fun, now onto Resurrection of Evil, right? *Less than one minute in the video* Oh.

[@TerrorLTZ]

the rest will be Doom RPG

[@nemtudom5074]

I dont get it? Why isnt resurrection of evil the next?

[@CaveyMoth]

Play the Classic Doom mod for Doom 3, as well!

[@WelcomeToTwinklePark]

so i'm a voice actor. whenever i'm in the booth or recording something at home, when they ask for a mic check I always say "Mars sec radio check"

[@bmann14k]

Nice. Work on any notable titles?

[@Yooonsi]

@@bmann14k No because he's a liar.

[@WelcomeToTwinklePark]

I was in beyblades burst and sword of the stars 2

[@WelcomeToTwinklePark]

@@Yooonsi wow you sound salty

[@WelcomeToTwinklePark]

@JapaneseGiant Lizard1234 I was never in doom 3. When you pass by the guard to get your pistol and com link in game, he does a test on the com and says "Mars sec radio check." It just stuck with me and when I'm in the booth and they ask for a mic check, I always say that

[@deadeyereaper2080]

Funny story about the shotgun. In DOOM 3 VR for the PSVR, the shotgun is God-tier and Armature, the devs responsible made the spread a lot tighter, making mid range combat viable. Not to mention, they've upped the damage for it as well. Downside, the Super Shotgun was mega-nerfed and became the new vanilla DOOM 3 Shotgun. Unless you are pointblank, the spread in the PSVR version for the Super Shotgun is 2 - 3x wider than the regular vanilla shotgun, which is bonkers. Worse yet, even if you're point blank, you can still miss majority or all Super Shotgun pellets even at close range. It's that bad!

[@Darusamon]

I'm glad you mentioned the VR source port, because yeah, it really does feel like the game was designed with it in mind. In fact, it's kind of crazy how good of a fit Doom 3 is for VR.