Pro player breaks down Riots League Fighting Game - Project L

[@OMGthousandrelic]

Leffen Ignoring the controversy like smash players ignoring personal hygiene

[@Elite12Pivot]

Like smash players ignoring age of consent.

[@OMGthousandrelic]

@@Elite12Pivot straight savage lmao

[@Hubin12]

@@Elite12Pivot LMAOO TRUUUE

[@slip9618]

like smashers ignoring controversy and a response for said controversy

[@BattousaiHBr]

im out of the loop, what happened this time?

[@resean2727]

In case anyone is wondering he is hiding in his secondary channel called Big Leff.

[@bumpy_gaming]

Please tell me where I can find this channel

[@aacmbirdzilla2343]

What coward lol, oh, and @@bumpy_gaming...he straight up said his second channel is called Big Leff

[@InoueMizuhashi]

@@bumpy_gaming you can also find it in the main channel tabs, i think is the fifth tab

[@cleander3645]

thanks m8 i wanted to tell him how much i appreciate his dogshit persona^^

[@robburitto4193]

0 dislikes, must be an uplifting, positive, and supportive guy!

[@NickNick-xv6wv]

As of right now the video has 3.1k dislikes

[@tushar_22]

@@NickNick-xv6wv how are you able to see that ???

[@NickNick-xv6wv]

@@tushar_22 extension, lets you see dislikes, atm this vid is at 2483-3387

[@Wa-igi]

舒坦

[@Wa-igi]

舒坦IT

[@bigfropa9873]

Leffen thanking god that YT hid dislikes

[@timothyalexander7006]

LMAO that not about to stop the hate bro. This what happens when you simp to the extreme.

[@justanotherexistingperson4377]

Actually I can still see it, Leffen has 1.6k likes and 1.6k dislikes, Perfectly balanced...

[@rannynihilius8481]

@@timothyalexander7006 so would you say that hating a person for ruining the reputation of a beloved player for no reason but give abuse victims the illusion that he is a hero is only listening to the extremes? Yes ZeRo did text with a underaged girl 7 years ago but does that make making so many lies up about him any more okay to you? You probally go more to the extreme like a sheep than any angry comment on his recent videos. Can you give one good reason why lying with malicous intend about someone is not a normal reason to actually remove you from let's say our community? Didn't get Hax$ get banned for the same ban reasons that very much are confirmed things Leffen did not so long ago? So if the allegations are wrong why is Leffen just ignoring every bit of critism and allegations from day 1 even going as far as putting his chat on follower mode if he is just the victim? Leffen played victim when Hax suddenly started showing people what he was really doing all these years so why shouldn't he do it again? Cmon give one argument why Leffen doesn't deserve to get absolutely thrown out of the fgc community for good that disproves the allegations towards him.

[@canyounotmydude9155]

@@rannynihilius8481 there's not even that much evidence of the katie thing. That's a shifty situation, but the point is that we don't even know. Leffen and Jisu clearly lied about most of the stuff anyways.

[@user-s9eu8ce9fw]

Use the chrome extension that shows them. The dislikes are at 2,6K dislikes right now while the likes are at 2,1K.

[@hennessyypapi]

Can you do an updated reaction to the Zero situation? Thanks!

[@johnlegend2579]

Dude this guy Is a snakes kzbin.info/www/bejne/g37PhmiKh6h9fbs

[@darbling311]

He can't because if he does give this attention, he'll have to give attention to ALL OTHER TIMES he has fucked over people. It would be the domino effect.

[@thetimeninja2178]

You don’t just play fighting games you play with other people’s mental health

[@NSFWTHICC]

That's why everyone loves playing fighting games 😉

[@guyfauks2576]

Playing with groomers health epic

[@TheLonelyMoon]

I wish I could see the dislike button on this video, the guys an actual gas lighter

[@Achallon]

@@TheMercenary04 thank you for this, it feels wrong not being able to see it

[@grunkleg.29691]

If I had to rate you as a person, I'd give you a ZeRo

[@antoinemayrand7348]

This joke is so bad and dark. I love it.

[@spicymeatballs2thespicening]

lol

[@sourjam4230]

BUT THATS NOT POSSIBLE SO ILL GIVE YOU... D1

[@bailujen8052]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5uTg62ig7aCfdE

[@XWings001]

Here's to Zero hopefully slapping Leffen with a big dirty lawsuit too and winning.

[@user-xz4pv2sw7u]

leffen dead by 2023

[@battlemeow6290]

Although he cant tho... lets be real here man what ZeRo was caught redhanded doing is much more messed up by several leagues. Fkk leffen tho he's the shazh of ssbm

[@XWings001]

@@battlemeow6290 well the facts are that he took back everything he said and he's fighting it legally. On the other side we have defamation of character, Jisu and Leffen proven liars and spreading misinformation about both Zero and his wife, and the one thing they have against Zero(the Skype logs) would be thrown out because it's a faceless accusation, the person can't be contacted, and the people backing it can't be trusted.

[@XWings001]

@@battlemeow6290 honestly a lot of the accusations thrown around were baseless and just weren't true unfortunately as much as I wanted to believe the "victims" and it honestly ruined the smash scene for me at least. Innocent people, even some of the accused when you look at all the facts presented, the wrong people were hit and that will forever leave a horrific scar on the scene as a whole, especially if Zero wins. Sad too because I was hoping to invest money into helping run tournaments but the scene clearly isn't worth it

[@battlemeow6290]

@@XWings001 yeah bud sure i get it if ZeRo kinda admitted to it but he said he did it and is working to be better and just wants the internet to forget the fkked up thing that he did.

[@yanexodus3906]

My man wanted to be the villain of smash ended up just a Villain.

[@akamegakill3707]

This guy isn’t so innocent after all LOL. Deceitful.

[@Zenbon111]

Likes: 2k Dislikes:2.2k keep em coming

[@fel524]

Update it please

[@darbling311]

@@fel524 2.9k dislikes: likes are the same

[@zuikerou7625]

Leffen be like: I will ignore everything that I caused and I will ignore the drama surrounding my name

[@puppelia]

@@daemon7013 ?

[@ThePelleD]

What happened?

[@SuperShadowmetal]

@@daemon7013 alll of that will be handled in privacy, as said by zero, sooo

[@SuperShadowmetal]

He can, he is not a small creator anymore.

[@huh9400]

@@arottedfruit no one “forgot” abt what happened to zero, it was proven wrong

[@oliver-mu1fv]

L BOZO YOU CAN NOW FINALLY FLIP SOME BURGHERS INSTEAD OF PLAYING GAMES EVERYDAY 🚬🚬🚬🚬

[@bailujen8052]

And meet karens who would propabbly get arrested

[@mysteriousstranger6834]

if anyone is curious. 2000 likes vs 3400 dislikes. Ur welcome

[@majestychaneld]

Uh, you want to say something about the ZeRo situation or keep losing fans? You lied about something that was very very serious and almost got someone killed. You’re sick.

[@Saeohh]

"losing fans" lol

[@canyounotmydude9155]

@@Saeohh well 2,000 have gone away so far according to socialblade within the past several days, and I think that will continue

[@mewsmeme]

@@Saeohh He's been losing thousands

[@GothamThotSlayer]

@@Saeohh 🤡🤡🤡

[@bailujen8052]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5uTg62ig7aCfdE

[@flashdr1ve]

why dont you break down that time when you slandered a man to the point of having suicidal tendencies? that would be a pretty cool video leffen 👍

[@randomguy9471]

Who cares about pedos

[@darksignaturesmwahahaha7261]

@@randomguy9471 i care

[@the_ninja436]

@@randomguy9471 zero is innocent and leffen fabricated nothing but bullshit about zero

[@89Valkyrie]

So true. Leffen is not someone who makes mistakes; he intentionally goes out of his way to injure people. He IS a bad person.

[@bruhm0ment6000]

@@randomguy9471 Your comment proves our point that leffen manipulates the masses.

[@Bambow00]

You’re a terrible person, just wanted to stop by & say that. Take responsibility.

[@mellowyellow5427]

I'll second that.

[@bailujen8052]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5uTg62ig7aCfdE

[@jerry1192]

Is there any Leffen response yet? I'm suprised he keep uploading content without doing so.

[@indigo_sirgaming]

Not as far as I know. Also, technicals called out Nairo too and it doesn't seem like he's said anything about it.

[@raulnedd7745]

@@indigo_sirgaming The nario video purpose was to keep nario banned from touraments. But he deserves to have his yt and other stuff up.

[@criloof]

Haters gonna hate

[@lapplandkun9273]

@@criloof Nah, its just facts.

[@criloof]

@@lapplandkun9273 I don't think so

[@kylethompson4543]

Address what you and Jisu did. It's long overdue.

[@thedislikeguy3682]

Ratio: 2.3K Likes/ 3.0k Dislikes

[@turt3lz486]

No response yet 💀

[@123natemans]

Bruh you can't just mute your way out of accountability. You are going to have to address the damage you helped cause at some point.

[@randomguy9471]

Who cares about pedos

[@canyounotmydude9155]

@@randomguy9471 ZeRo isn't tho..

[@123natemans]

​@@randomguy9471 You clearly have no idea what that word means. People do however care about false accusations. Just look at the dislikes.

[@CW-cx3bv]

what happened

[@canyounotmydude9155]

@@CW-cx3bv leffen helped slander ZeRo and Sky Williams

[@wordsoflove8787]

Nice accuntability, leffen.

[@bumpy_gaming]

Yeah, it's so nice that it's impossible to see!

[@fel524]

Ac*cunt*ability is pretty accurate

[@bruhm0ment6000]

It's been 10 years now, it's time for you to stop this time for good.

[@bruhm0ment6000]

And every year and every month, you're the center spotlight of FGC controversy.

[@zephronic1062]

Damn. KZbin really got rid of the dislikes at one of the worst times huh. This guy must be thanking god for that

[@hachimelmansouri5613]

I still have the dislike count, and this is slghtly over 50% dislike.

[@Starlisity]

Not for me, it's at 2.2k

[@NickNick-xv6wv]

2.3k at the moment

[@Hibernial]

That dislike extension viewer though.

[@louihuang4804]

Man's been really silent after the Zero defence video

[@Randombootx]

Imagine deleting comments LOL

[@rryyddeerr]

I wonder what the dislikes would look like if we could still see them

[@devoreking]

I can still see them are there are 1,1 dislikes for 1,3 likes

[@nouyellowmoon]

Yeah I can still see them too 🤔 1.3k likes 1.2k dislikes

[@warm-heartedreaction6191]

why so many dislike?

[@xxProjectJxx]

@@coldtea7 to be fair, the majority of allegations were from Jisu. What Leffen did was still shit tho.

[@annie_the_great]

Reposting my comment: KZbin is selectively removing the dislike count from view and soon the feature will be gone entirely so that there will be no accountability for charlatans like Leffen as he can delete comments he doesn’t like. The feature is being removed because it was the _only_ objective measurement of how a video is received and corporations and legacy news media regularly receive negative attention after being astroturfed in recommendations. Now watch time and ad friendliness are the literal sole metric for how a video performs irrespective of what viewers think. Good time to be a scammer or spread lies.

[@pelthepelican6232]

KZbin came through with the blocking of dislikes. Shame, I was looking forwards to see the ratio.

[@IncubearOfficial]

I can still see it. It's at 1.7 likes and 1.6k dislikes at the moment.

[@agav2345]

1900 likes 2000 dislikes

[@user-lm9us]

1.9 likes vs 2.1 dis

[@SaulTeeNutz]

I can still see it.

[@Yaeven]

2k vs 2.3k

[@mellowyellow5427]

I remember once feeling bad for you because you were portrayed as a villain in the community. Now it's more true that you are than ever.

[@aketsuuu]

My friend and I used to say while playing Smash "we livin' like Leffen" whenever we didn't lose a stock. It quickly became "we losin' like Leffen", and has stayed that way since. Good, because on all fronts outside of that one stray Evo win and his GG Strive Evo win, Leffen is losin'.

[@mellowyellow5427]

@@aketsuuu damn right man.

[@darbling311]

Felt bad for him lmao. I always knew he was a snake. Look at his interactions with anyone.

[@BasicLee_]

When will you finally just leave the FGC so people can enjoy the Community?

[@li_bruh8521]

Your silence is making it worse.

[@King-ep2zb]

Ok, so a month in and Leffen hasn't uploaded anything on youtube, (idk about twitch, but I'm guessing it's the same as on youtube). I feel like at this point leffen knows that he wont be able to come back to youtube/twitch, that being said I wanted to put in my own theory as to what happened to leffen as of right now (and do tell me what your theories are, I'm really curious to know from all of you). My theory is that by this point leffen knows that this is pretty much the end of his career, as far as I would think at least, so my theory is that he took what he can (money and such) and ran for the hills and doesnt have any intention of returning. Not to mention I'm sure he made alot of money leading up to that point so I'm sure that there are a few ways leffen could sneak off somewhere we cant find him. But yeah that's my theory. (yes I did see the video Technicals made, it was incredibly well done in my opinion). But that's all I had to say on this, and thank you to whoever is reading this.

[@bubhoward8642]

Leffen's always streaming on twitch. At least his Twitter posts say so. Haven't watched any myself tho

[@King-ep2zb]

@@bubhoward8642 I checked it myself and he seems to be active on twitch so I guess this comment is sorta redundant, but my point still stands on what I talked about in terms of KZbin at least lol

[@HotFootBunny]

He has a second channel that he uploads daily on, go to channel tag on this channel and its right there, I think he's trying to escape to that channel, since he knows this channel is basically done for

[@King-ep2zb]

@@HotFootBunny yeah your right, most big (or somewhat big) channels have an extra channel anyway especially if this happened, I'm not surprised honestly, and at the same time i feel like we ran him out of town if that makes sense but yeah I agree this channel of his is done for, yeah he can move to another channel, but that's not solving the problem, he's more of a coward now than ever.

[@lapplandkun9273]

Great. Him gone the smash community can finally improve

[@IsaacPK]

Come on big man talk about the Zero situation

[@bootleg6595]

Make a video about the controversy

[@gnardawgyt]

Project L aka Leffen's reputation

[@Yaeven]

👍 👎 2.2k 2.7k

[@575gtcFerrari]

You…r….roach…of….kawk:~}

[@MajoraWaffle]

your facade as the god of the smash community is over. respond to your allegations.

[@RainbowLizardOne]

you guys are pathetic

[@littlecocogoat]

overtone how is that pathetic when Leffen does nothing but lie

[@89Valkyrie]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6TcZXhpiMiNjM0

[@MajoraWaffle]

@@RainbowLizardOne sorry for wanting this community to have some fucking integrity and to hold their figures accountable???? how come you were all so vigilant when it came to the massive wave of misconduct allegations last year, yet suddenly leffen is exempt from any sort of consequence when he is accused of heinous shit? where is this community's consistency?

[@jewels7018]

@@RainbowLizardOne i’m sorry the community came after the guy that presses buttons good, my apologies

[@kirbyboi4288]

Would love to see him start turning off comments on KZbin, just to prove he is a child still

[@Aimxer]

Smokin that leffen is a backstabber pack

[@smoochywalus3876]

Been gone for 9 months. Good

[@tuna3875]

Thank god this guy hasnt posted in 5 months.

[@HotFootBunny]

Sadly he has a second channel he has escape too

[@younghacker09]

enough is enough, Leffen.

[@theoriginalralph5141]

Bruh why is everyone saying youtube hid the dislikes? I can still see it. And for anyone who is curious, at the time of this comment this video currently has about 2.1k dislikes.

[@ultimatesoundeffectschannel]

For some reason some channels can still see dislikes

[@obtsfan]

Leffen.. I've been a big fan of you these last few years, but the lack of a statement has really let me down. Why is it that you had no issue inserting yourself into the drama when it centered around others in the smash community, but when the drama actually centers around yourself, you are silent? Isn't this the most relevant and applicable time for you to be making a statement? When all these players and commentators were accused of things last year, they stated their case. Even ZeRo had to address the allegations, multiple times. Do you have the courage to do that, or are you going to stick your head in the sand and prove all of your doubters right? I think the fact that you're ignoring this issue is getting you more condemnation than what you were actually accused of doing in the first place. If you just addressed the allegations in an honest and genuine way (either by justifying your actions or by apologizing), then I think many people would drop it and move on. Hope you can do that, and wishing you all the best.

[@JohnYannoulas]

Wasn;t the situation that he called out Zero for preying on minors?

[@bun2206]

@@JohnYannoulas Yeah but what Leffen was calling out proved to be false. Leffen literally spread false information and endorsed it yet refuses to apologize for his shitty mistake.

[@JohnYannoulas]

@@bun2206 Hasn;t zero himself admitted to abusing minors? When it's about pedophilia people are acting like a mob of apes when Hansen does his thing exposing them, and now they're ganging up on a single pro player because he supposedly did the same thing?

[@bun2206]

@@JohnYannoulas He admitted it when he was about to commit suicide and had no evidence to defend himself. Evidence was brought forward that acquitted him and he recanted his confession. Zero is innocent.

[@JohnYannoulas]

@@bun2206 on one count. I read that he quit esports and said that one of the allegations was true though. Like, why would he ever admit it if he hadnt done it in the first place?

[@chango7771]

can you at least own up to your actions? sooner or later, karma will bite you. #banleffen

[@bailujen8052]

#BanLeffen #BanJisu #UnbanHax destroy and rebuild the smash community

[@allezgamingforever]

Hmmm Leffen hasn't made a vid on KZbin in a while. Him using his tactic of staying silent about the situation to get through it thinking it's gonna pass. Not this time Leffen. Time to pay back for what you did.

[@jameskosolofski7677]

Welcome back zero I expected a response with something that fixes or appoglize to zero

[@BeegYoshi.]

#WelcomeBackZeRo

[@silentlamb3290]

You can run but you can’t hide

[@mileven3ggo3njoyer]

For everyone who's wondering, Leffen now posts to his second channel BIG LEFF cause of the outrage on his main. Coward.

[@angeljoelfrancis9174]

Leffen: If you don't know me. I play...... Us: Yeah, we know you and all your douche moves

[@lisreal2007]

Feel like addressing all your targeted harassment of other people after crying to your fans about how Hax$ did it to you?

[@darbling311]

This is precisely why I was so annoyed with Haxs apology. Leffen actually had it coming for a LONG time.

[@agneskennicott7851]

LOL @ you failing at Summit. Come on Leffen, do your thing! Run to Twitter to post your routine excuses!! 😂

[@Caesarsal4d]

bro got 7 straight comments of straight hate LMAO. ok “agnes”

[@agneskennicott7851]

@@Caesarsal4d Hopefully one day I'll be able to decipher what the hell you're attempting to talk to me about, "Ethan." I'll let you know.

[@spaceace9103]

@@agneskennicott7851 DAYUM get his ass Agnes

[@fel524]

@@spaceace9103 Simp. But I guess I second that

[@darbling311]

@@Caesarsal4d Dayamn you got dropped.

[@kurimiaisukurimu]

Never liked Leffen, but now... I'm glad I finally have a good reason to lmao, what a sad sack.

[@inkredibill6352]

No more uploads? Hooray!

[@foxmccloud7]

Don’t main me. Falco doesn’t want to be mained by you either.

[@tyberiousb5176]

He seems like a great Tekken player

[@ViperDivinity]

Oh dont bother we dont want his ego in Tekken and Im coming from Tekken btw known for biggest egos in FGC

[@sonzaun5262]

Can we atleast get this guy to attempt one good thing in his life

[@cherryb0ng]

Apparently not

[@antoinemayrand7348]

I bet he will make a normal video soon and never adress it. It's been over a month, what are you waiting for? For us to forget, to forgive? That ain't happening.

[@Yaeven]

👍 👎 2.1k 2.5k

[@nice3297]

he's also an immature little kid that bullies and never admits fault.

[@friesengarett1376]

Leffen hasn't posted in a month now. Yea that ain't shady. Grow up man, stop drinking the Kool aid

[@ChrisVanished]

Second channel.

[@321Tdog]

He ran away to a new channel

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

What does Kool aid taste like?

[@bumpy_gaming]

Lol, he hasn't uploaded in two weeks. I *wonder* what's up with that 🤔

[@rsbqc4653]

I’m really glad this guy is gone :)

[@bumpy_gaming]

*imitates The Count from Sesame Street* That's 3, THREE weeks Leffen has gone without uploading! Ah-ah-ah!

[@bumpy_gaming]

FOUR WEEKS! Ah-ah-ah! That's 4 weeks Leffen has gone without uploading or addressing the controversy! Ah-ah-ah!

[@georgejohnson8751]

People like leff should be in 1 mandatory cage match a month for all that shit he’s talkin. Make him put up or finally shut up

[@justinianthe1st790]

I have to admire the gall Leffen has to actually be doing this. But then again its clearly effortless. Leffen will never face any genuine consequences to his actions. He never really has so why now?

[@yamato8000]

What do you mean?

[@justinianthe1st790]

@@yamato8000 I'm so tired of typing it up. But tldr Leffen is manipulative liar who made up accusations about Zero which contributed to his attempted sui-ci-de. It's also bad because he also accuses Japanese players of doing bad things with zero too technically. Someone will probably read this thread and inform you on what exactly happened. I'm too exhausted to talk about it anymore.

[@yamato8000]

@@justinianthe1st790 Oh shit, I don't really know much about smash or leffen so I wasn't aware of that.

[@chrisludwig4729]

@@yamato8000 That's because it's entirely a lie. Don't believe everything random crazies tell you online.

[@cinemapills3839]

@@chrisludwig4729 it is not, there is more that one video full of evidence.

[@cherryb0ng]

1893 likes to 1971 dislikes at the time of this comment, exactly 3 days since uploading.

[@niclas3406]

r u ever gonna adress the situation? You're making the situation worse by ignoring rather than admitting it.

[@ilovewaffles070]

Why is this getting dislike bombed?

[@benhanson4199]

Technicals (professional diaper sniffer) made a vid about zero where he said "leffen bad" n stuff and now the technicals fans are demanding a response

[@Kirin_the_Bouncing_Unicorn]

For further context, Zero got banned from the Smash community for being a creep and Technicals is trying to rehabilitate him but somehow Leffen is the baddie.

[@dragonballshipuden]

Is not "somehow" if you watch the video

[@chrisludwig4729]

@@dragonballshipuden I watched the whole video. It's just Tech sperging out and saying things like "I had a person tell me sth that contradicts Leffen's account... but he doesn't want to be named. So just trust me brah."

[@roblux7370]

@@chrisludwig4729 Ah but when Leffen said the same with ZeRo now his opinion matters, lmao the bias

[@frda2938]

not very big leff... disliked

[@muro_mayo4134]

Gotta love it when you install a google extension to see the dislikes: rn its at 2.8k

[@SPMask]

Over 3,000 viewers on his twitch stream, seriously, WAKE UP PPL!

[@huh9400]

ive made like 10 twitch accounts to harass this guy in his streams lmao its hilarious

[@niclas3406]

lmao I also got banned a while ago just cause I want this mf to speak up and tell the truth

[@d_rock1219]

My nigga you have nothing better to do💀

[@pksprite6401]

Excellent 🙏

[@niclas3406]

when u gonna apologise to zero?

[@salvadors6669]

#LeffenLiedPeopleDied

[@JO3Lzzz7948]

Can you explain the recent allegations about yourself please? Don't be a coward and act like a proper man. Thank you.

[@user-lm9us]

he isnt a man, he is a child

[@Zero-rj6re]

Dude this man is a snake and was jealous of ZeRo because he's a bigger smash name then him. Leffen literally created fake lies to get him off and ruin his career and was one of the causes that made zero have a failed suicide

[@oliver-mu1fv]

rip now he can enjoy minimum wage jobs that he said were so much more fun than playing games daily L BOZO

[@Dysphoros]

Disliked until a new statement about the ZeRo's fiasco is made. I won't bash him if he haven't released a good statement yet.

[@lapplandkun9273]

Nope. Zero was terrible for what he did but leffen is worse m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/roaZeZ6cn9CgsKs

[@kermit_the_sloth]

Leffen fans be wild out here. "Leffen’s sick. Idc if he bullies nerds, that’s not a crime. Stop crying over forum posts and watch his sets, they’re entertaining as fuck. 1000 nerds can k*** themselves over his bullying and I would still not care. There will always be bullies and liars; it’s a fools errand to try to ban them. "Just grow thicker skin" and appreciate Leffen for the skill he brings. No matter how many pandering videos like this come out the mob of 12 year olds will never take Leffen away from melee. It’s naive to think otherwise. Enjoy your clout" -TudsonsToomer

[@jordansarkisian]

And one of the most important aspects, it’s gonna have a ton of big tournaments with top shelf production and either tons of prize money or orgs shelling really good money for people to play same as LoL/VAL…or both:)

[@ray_9211]

It certainly won't have this. The only reason Valorant got that support, is because of the massive FPS fanbase (mainly CS). The FGC never had anything big, so they most likely wont highroll with this, just l ike TFT and LoR

[@jordansarkisian]

@@ray_9211 TFT and LoR have decent scenes for the size of games they are and the hype they bring imo. You can't compare a card game or TFTRNG to a fighting game, fighting games can make entire stadiums go apeshit as seen with EVO.

[@ray_9211]

@@jordansarkisian I mean, EVO is the only really big event when it comes to FGCs. Don't act like there are 3-4 evos a year. One of the main reason why EVO is so insanely huge, is the very nature of it. It isn't an event for a single fighting game, it's an accumulation of various fighting games that bring their own audience to the event. I could elaborate further on why a single fighting game can't have tons of prize money and tonz of huge 1k+ entrants tournaments, lemme know if you are interested in it! I do believe that it can have a healthy tournament scene with a lot of new player, mainly league players or some arcane watchers.

[@jordansarkisian]

@@ray_9211 We'll see what happens, but just saying Riot, this may draw people from many fighting games which could end up being over 1k entrants easily, and Riot love the attention of a big esport. Even the new Halo has a year of tournaments ahead of it, over 3 million in prize money with crowdfunding, and their first online tournament already had over 400 teams sign up...and imo it's much easier to get 1k individuals to enter something than trying to coordinate over 400 teams of 4 people even if it's just online lol Hoping for the best, and I think it's capable, people trust Riot to make top shelf games and support their scene, it's got promise especially with good online and a skill gap. (most fighting games have sloppy online/lag/etc so it's already benefitting if that's done right)

[@monkehotdogs2227]

@@jordansarkisian People only like Smash. Look at the twitch view counts, SFV 2.5K, DBFZ 1.7k, GGST 2K, Tekken 1.8k, and smash just so much higher. No one really cares about these types of games because they are so hard to get into and they require losing to learn which MANY people don’t like. It’s very sad the FGC is not well but maybe with this we can come back

[@vig0s221]

#leffenliedpeopledied

[@bun2206]

Apologize to zero

[@HIIIBEAR]

He’s not going to even acknowledge the controversy then you guys will go on with your lives. Doesn’t it suck to know that you’re just a bot some Internet personality can weaponize for clout?

[@bun2206]

@@HIIIBEAR Not really. This dude cannot even crack 50k views on his video and has overwhelming dislikes (FYI: Dislikes on a video puts your channel in a worse position on the algorithm) Not to mention he barely gets 300 viewers on stream, when ZeRo starts his stream back up, he'll easily have 1k to start with. Meanwhile, the person he tried to make commit suicide is cracking 200k views with overwhelming likes. Whether this cringe dude makes an apology or not does not matter in the long run, it is satisfying enough to see someone be less successful than the person they tried to destroy and fail at.

[@HIIIBEAR]

@@bun2206 lmao it’s crazy you say he tried to make the dude vomit suicide. How desperate are you to live in that fantasy land.

[@bun2206]

@@HIIIBEAR Don't see why else he would jump on the Jisu train and make up shit about someone. The fact Leffen still hasn't apologized makes me think it was intentional. He made up shit about someone, that someone attempted suicide, and Leffen says nothing about it. If Leffen would stop running away and make a statement on this, maybe that rumor that he intentionally did this for that reason wouldn't exist.

[@HIIIBEAR]

@@bun2206 So now you’re asserting leffens motive based on your own imagination of his intent to not apologize. You’re a hypocrite making false accusation on leffen based on feelings 😂 of course though. Stay passionate about shit that doesn’t concern you bro. I’m sure that will make your life interesting or whatever you’re looking for lmao

[@plneet3504]

Coney in commentary said if anyone was R Kelly in the Smash community that they wouldn't do anything based on there track record. Him being disliked bombed on YT which doesn't even have dislikes isn't justice he shouldn't be in tournies and Hax should

[@goatman7012]

you arent forgivable

[@pksprite6401]

Lmao hiding out on the secondary channel. How the “mighty” have fallen.

[@jhonxiolon]

Flitering comments

[@codeaccuna]

wdym?

[@prosoccer728]

He can filter whatever he wants, we gotta contact all of his sponsors and make him lose everything like he did to his so called friends M2k and zero

[@codeaccuna]

@@EphYxRS I wouldn't be asking if i knew...

[@uprollsariotvan]

Leffen is worse than Ultimate online

[@monkehotdogs2227]

This man couldn’t make it in 2D fighters so he switched to smash then screws up again 💀 Just be a good person

[@rainkid5226]

I literally cannot stand this guy

[@ProfKisuto]

Why is leff getting so many thumbs down all of a sudden? Did something happen?

[@AceVortux]

@@-t4173 Except we can't prove that nor does Jisu that this certain individual actually did do that to the victim. The only evidence we have is just his false confession where he later said its his suicide note because he couldn't defend himself or disprove it if it never happened at all.

[@AceVortux]

@@-t4173 I was referring to Katie.

[@AceVortux]

@@shortyboymoran483 I was referring to Katie.

[@IncubearOfficial]

@@AceVortux I hate this argument. EVERYONE jumped against Zer0 without any proof. They bandwaggoned Leffen and Jisu. Now that it's the other way around, everyone wants a "where's the proof"?

[@AceVortux]

@@IncubearOfficial I'm not saying it as if I'm against him, I'm all in favor of him for the sake of his mental health and his encouragement for defending himself. I can't even say his name because Leffen censored it but yeah, him. I'm talking about him. I said it because I was being transparent about it and more leaning to take [redacted by Leffen]'s side, I mean Jisu and Leffen has legit no proof at all about the Katie situation and people are still assuming [redacted by Leffen] still did it because of his confession but yet he said it's a false confession, it was his suicide note because he was prepared to take his own life.

[@TheBeggies95]

You fucked up so bad. Can't wait to see what you have to say but i'm so disapointed. I hope you did not make false allegation to cancel him

[@luigiplayer14]

Can you respond to Hax’s video( it’s on an archive channel now )? They may be deleted, but it still seems credible.

[@overdrive_srs]

Why do Leffen's videos have so many dislikes?

[@slippinjenny7410]

This melee player who's had a long time feud with him put out a video accusing Leffen of being a literal sociopath trying to control the Super Smash Bros. Melee community and compared him to Hitler. And after this video was put out and everyone understandably reacted poorly, he proceeded to put out basically the same video three more times toning it down more each time. And now his fans believe him and think Leffen like a psychopath who abuses people and stuff. And now they dislike all his videos and talk shit to him on Twitter and stuff

[@homeyworkey]

@@slippinjenny7410 nah its cos of technicals bruv

[@Permafrost1]

i just dont fucking like him lmao

[@chrisludwig4729]

He triggered the most toxic / pathetic sub genre of the Smash community.

[@Silverhazey_]

@@Permafrost1 You go to people's videos that you don't like to dislike them? Most people with brains don't give them views or watch time. Jesus. Your life must be so sad.

[@kayanono]

Game looks good. You are still a snake tho.

[@masterchef2875]

Dislike

[@edwardsmith3274]

I'm not really sure who is more of a drama queen. Leffen or lowtiergod.

[@island3609]

This man is a walking L.