Pro Ranks Every SPECIAL And SUB In Splatoon 3

[@ProChara]

*Small Note* 17:03 is the losers finals of Stormbreak, a major tournament, I also did not mention it but Crab has a 1 shot combo by using the 90 hit and one normal shot to kill quickly without being fully charged. So yes more points to Crab.

[@cnvsmyth]

Yeah that is very good info on crab thx chara also you forgot to mention the glitch with booyah bomb with splatana stamper lol

[@harmless9336]

How did this special get into the game like this again?

[@ProChara]

@@cnvsmyth I did not its not new or worth mentioning here its too small a detail, splatanas are not that common rn

[@bend4456]

@@harmless9336 most thing in splatoon are very very close to being balanced, even if they’re crazy dominant. Like how 27% paint made k52 way better then everything else. Crab doesn’t need too much change to feel fair, and what seems broken in play testing doesn’t always end up translating competitively

[@Therealdodojojome]

It would be nice if you made like a how to do things like how to play rainmaker correctly like about positioning. Also how to use specials like zipcaster useful. Because for people with lower ranks (like me I’m only an A) have no idea on how to use zipcaster and about different positions.

[@MMOToaster]

4:40 don't forget about the insane effect sub power up has on beacons, effectively giving your entire team quick super jump.

[@vanilla8956]

It's actually more AP than Quick Super Jump. A main of Sub power gives 13 AP worth of super jump which is equal to one main and one sub of it. And a main and one sub of sub power gives 18 AP with is a little less than a pure one main and 3 subs of QSJ, which would be 19 AP And one main and 4 subs of sub power gives 30 AP which is equal to 3 whole mains of QSJ

[@mollylarsen9812]

7:55 Chara: Tacticooler is mid Version 5.0.1: Am I a joke to you?

[@prestonandtom9337]

Nah, it just didn't exsist to him.

[@hadikassir9958]

It's worth mentioning that Wave Breaker is literally a life saver for salmon run. If your teammates are dying and there's too many bosses around, throwing it will save your teammates around including yourself if thrown right before you die. Even if this video didn't account for salmon run, figured it'd be worth mentioning.

[@Voidling242]

Everything is a lifesaver in salmon run.

[@NearyDead]

I think a cool buff for reef slider would be the ability to steer it in a direction. This would allow it to be a little less predictable and give it a bit more power.

[@plasmerus262]

How about make it control like the Jaxi's form Super Mario Odyssey

[@TGCPhilip]

Drifting a Reefslider sounds metal as hell

[@GhostieLev]

It would be to similar to kraken, and teams could move in different directions to make you only Solar one and still get punished.

[@pokaay3163]

Baller 2.0

[@carlos41519]

Only if we can parry it again

[@owenwagner2108]

Changes to the bottom tier subs: Angle Shooter -Now deals damage to any enemy that crosses the line -The line now pierces enemies Toxic Mist -Now deals chip damage to anyone in the mist -Lingers on enemies that are caught in the initial burst -Strips Squid Roll/Squid Surge armor Sprinkler (Reworked) -Now has 50HP -0.5 second setup time after landing -Acts like normal until an enemy gets in range, then starts firing short range, 25dmg shots in the enemy's direction (Closer enemies take priority -Takes 60% of the ink tank I feel like giving the sprinkler a secondary purpose outside of just painting is cool, and also i'm a sucker for building characters in games

[@saket9083]

Personally I think they should turn sprinkler into a mobility option or something

[@StoryTeller796]

And as for Reefslider, make it so that you can set a path beforehand, turning it about. The more you do this, the less distance it travels after the second change to the path. Just fix the poor Ultrastamp. And there's nothing we should do for Tentacooler.

[@mintjamss]

I think sprinkler as a sentry sub would be awesome

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

I would disagree with a few of these things. I feel like you've kinda stripped the identity from some of these things and I feel like you didn't do enough for one of them. Here's what they actually need Angle shooter -Significantly increased range. This is so that it can bounce much more and have that fun bouncing thing that bloblobber has but also like 3x longer than it is currently -Significantly increased area around the line where it marks enemies. This is so that people can't just swim under it and are more likely to get hit -Increased lingering of line (probably about point sensor length of time). This is so that it's actually a barrier that affects the game -10 damage on line. Just cuz. Toxic mist - I actually agree with most of your changes, I just don't think it should have damage, and I have a few other changes -Lingers on enemies for half a second after leaving mist -If you squid roll into it, it cancels squid roll and changes momentum to max running speed within mist -Slightly increased area of effect Sprinkler - I disagree with pretty much all of this. It completely strips the entire point of the sub away and turns it into a weird turret/mine type thing without addressing the actual issues of the sub. Here's what it needs -Increased 'attack speed' (i don't know how else to phrase this but just the speed which it gives off paint). -Stays in stage 1 mode for much longer and only decays to stage 2, never to stage 3 -Reduced damage to objects in stage 1, no change to stage 2 object damage -Increased area around the base of sprinkler that it paints when thrown

[@StoryTeller796]

@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868Disclaimer: The following is a nitpick. It would still work competitively speaking and even for weapon viability, but... well, I mean if you were to remove the ability to swim underneath it, you would also be taking away some cool counterplay from it and basically make it worthless to play with since it isn't fun to use anymore. There is no element of player vs player, it's instead weapon vs player, and there's no sense of fun or honor in that, is there? Aside from that, I like everything else, though I did have a crackpot idea for Sprinkler to essentially give already inked turf a golden coating, basically armoring it so that opponents would need to shoot at the turf the Sprinkler is protecting more. This would make the Sprinkler an actual threat, as it would basically create a sluggish terrain to travel through, and would make other better inking like the Aerospray be way more viable in competitive play. I'm just worried that this idea would backfire and create a meta that is *way too* slow and sluggish, that matches would slow to a crawl and that games such as Rainmaker and especially Splat Zones would become unplayable with this version of the Sprinkler, though if the Sprinkler is balanced perfectly, then it could work and it could do more good than harm in the long run.

[@Style_224]

happy new year pro chara

[@rundomrun]

Happy new year!

[@stix_spl]

Can't believe that is gonna be 2023 tomorrow.

[@kratangg-arang]

And what a fun way to celebrate!

[@stix_spl]

@@kratangg-arang true. A prochara video at the end of the year is a W way to celebrate

[@louctendo1321]

Happy new year in 3 Hour's

[@shybandit521]

I think curling bombs could use any 2 of the following possible major buffs: An actually good reticle that shows where the curling will actually go. More ink on both trail and explosion (same lethal radius though) 45% ink consumption so you can quickly throw out two at the same time to be more vague.

[@waffledoctor87]

Option 4: instantly explode on touching a player

[@babywizard9027]

Option 5: If it bounces off of a wall, it becomes supercharged, when this happens, it will move 50% faster and deal 100 damage on hit, and 220 with the explosion, making it a skill shot.

[@TGCPhilip]

Make it move faster, I want Aggro Blob levels of maths going on in my head on top of the maths required to correctly cook a Curling (which is super duper satisfying to get kills with)

[@sophiegrey9576]

Here's another option: reverse the charge effect so a low charge will detonate quickly and a high charge will slide long distances

[@FlameEcho]

I kind of like the idea of making it cheaper maybe 50%? And making it more consistent but no longer lethal when uncharged. Turn it into a poke mobility combo sub ala fizzy or burst.

[@mileven3ggo3njoyer]

Here’s a buff concept for the shark: Definitely buff it’s vulnerability frames cause it’s terrible (I’d say a near second before the shark explodes). However, now you can jump off the shark for an added flexible option. When you do you will be a bit vulnerable in the air but you can still shoot with your main weapon or go into swim form. The shark will be given a seeker mechanic where it will go after the nearest player or just explode naturally if it can’t find anybody. It makes the special less vulnerable, more helpful for the users safety, and most importantly, a nuisance for the enemy team.

[@zacharywoloszynski4258]

I was thinking that exact same idea

[@vinverita]

I'd say give the player the ability to roll to a chosen direction like drop roller after it explodes

[@FlameEcho]

Hmm I kinda like the minecart option here. Maybe with nerfed damage compared to ride or some other tradeoff so you don't always do it.

[@joshuagabrielcatindig7607]

I'd say give it a standard Dualie roll while Slider is up.

[@rouge-ish324]

Dude I'd kill for it to be like Seeker used to

[@BluVapour]

Toxic Mist being bad is why I want Tri Stringer to get burst bomb, imagine the chip damage.

[@TGCPhilip]

I want it to stay in my imagination

[@agent-4-no.2a73]

It should get point sensor or something

[@Kattail__]

personally I'm more a fan of giving it torp, while I think burst bomb could be good, I like the utility of being able to locate targets and forcing other charge weapons to deal with my torpedo first but yea they did the bow dirty by giving it toxic mist

[@ijustwantedtocomment8319]

@The OG No you're getting angle shooter, obviously.

[@Fridgemasters]

i really wish tri stringer got burst bomb but knowing nintendo i’d expect it to get either sprinkler/point sensor/beacon

[@zenzangzong]

My #1 hot take here is that the curling bomb is massively underrated (bias from an L-3 main). It has decent paint. The delay effect to send it not as far and give it a bigger burst area is way too often disregarded. I think it can defend space from high ground extremely effectively, more so than even splat bombs. It deals damage on contact (which combos with L-3). Lots of people think of curling as a mobility sub, but that's honestly just a small part of it. If you can get good at the charge timing you can send it basically anywhere you want to control tons of space lethally. Yes it struggles in close-quarters which definitely makes burst and splat better, and fizzy still outclasses it in paint, but I think a lot of what curling has to offer has been overlooked.

[@rouge-ish324]

Honestly I think charging curling bomb needs to be bigger, even if its gear dependant. It could get suction bomb range at max charge with like 20 damage but as long as it contests area when charged and it's not just a movement tool, then it would be good

[@johndelanie3649]

I cook those and toss them up ledges, works wonders for catching people off guard, especially on maps like inkblot

[@fernavliz1]

idk why people never says that charging it is important. I throw a ton of curling bombs because I like that weapon. I think like maybe 60% or 80% of the kills I get with the curling bombs are charged curling bombs. I even charge it for middle distance; I feel even charging it for like a fraction of a second, gives it a good confortable distance that is easier to aim, and also it gives a bigger explosion than just throwing it without charging it and that would be too long and maybe bounce somewhere you didn't aim. Unless you intend to bounce aiming, then I suggest always charge your curling bombs.... I don't want to brag, but I feel like after 2k kills with this, I maybe know something about these... though I still feel there is so much to discover from these curling bombs.

[@NeverEverWatchThis]

The combo is overlooked. I use it a lot on reef-lux because if you can aim, they guaranteed get one shot. The only thing holding reef-lux back from one shots is the shot spread taking away *1* bullet. If they are hit with 20 damage, they can very easily get hit by only 2 bullets.

[@stix_spl]

Anyone realize how fast time flies, like only about a month and a half and and it would be the second year anniversary of splatoon 3 being announced. Crazy

[@yinja3406]

when did splatoon 3 get announced

[@stix_spl]

@@yinja3406 February 8th, 2021, so over 2 years ago now

[@theghostcreator776]

Watching this video in cooler meta is jarring af

[@Tyler-iw7ve]

It would be cool if inkstorm also had lightning strikes. Like miniature splashdowns about 3 Inklings diameter

[@Tyler-iw7ve]

@Obi DeBoy I think random... Just enough to make it wall out opponents a bit more.

[@Sp3ctralI]

It could’ve also slowed down opponents who went under the cloud a little bit

[@NeverEverWatchThis]

That would be too random. It should have buffs to the droplets to encourage people to fight in the storm. For example, while getting the droplets on you, you could get ink rec, maybe even an armor effect if you stayed in for 2 seconds.

[@TQThundra]

The Va-11 Hall-A music is definitely a good choice! Loving it!

[@owenwagner2108]

Changing bottom tiers 2: specials edition Reefslider: -You now rapidly heal while riding forward -Gain 50HP armor for 1 second after stopping (This change is a maybe) -Can add a slight curve if you tilt stick to the side before launching -Less endlag Tacticooler -Increase the pickup distance -More buffs, i guess? Ultra Stamp: -Now protects you more from the sides -Increased object damage for close range swings -Less recovery lag

[@kahootcollatera243]

My concept for an ink vac buff is to allow the user to shoot the ink shot without having to fully charge or wait for the timer to run out by clicking the right trigger again, giving the player the option to use ink vac more frequently and act as a tank refill.

[@RinaOfCuteness]

I’d would also like the Ink Vac if players got to close they would get sucked up and get splatted.

[@giornogiovanna6576]

They should give armor to inkjet and stamper as a secondary effect. Just like, you pop Inkjet/stamper and it's like if you activated splat 2 armor (with the same "it takes a little to activate" thingy to avoid making it a panic button) but just for yourself

[@QuiteTheBandNerd]

I absolutely love the splash wall right now. I’ve been playing a lot of splash zones and since most the maps are extremely open it can block snipers from hitting you so you can actually make a move on the zone.

[@babywizard9027]

An idea I have to buff Angle Shooter is to make it a skill shot. It can keep its location effect, and everything it has right now, but I'll add new effects that will increase its depth and options. First of all, the damage that the marker deals with a direct hit is increased from 30 to 50. And now, if the marker bounces off of a wall, floor, or any surface, it will deal double damage, meaning that if you manage to throw the marker, it bounces off of something, and then gets a direct hit, it will do 100 damage, enough to be a 1 hit KO. Of course, this will be extremely hard to do, but for extremely skilled players that can calculate the angles and learn how to effectively bounce off of walls and hit people, they will be rewarded with a one hit KO, rather than a measly 30 damage. This will actually encourage players to try to bounce it off walls and land this skill shot, which is exactly what makes this sub unique. Right now no one bothers with the bounce, because it's unreasonably hard to do, and the reward is pathetic. Now that the reward is high, there's finally a reason to use the main gimmick of the Marker, and not just throw it straight forward, making it more than just a worse Point Sensor.

[@ijustwantedtocomment8319]

This is really clever, I honestly hope nintendo does something like this.

[@AmapolaMystery]

EXCELLENT idea, huge fan

[@Sickmmaner]

Keep the damage to 30, or maybe 35, and then make it double if it bounces. This thing would be able to instantly cover a choke point with no reaction time for the opponent. Having it 1 shot would be too strong.

[@blunderbus2695]

It's not super hard to throw the Angle Shooter at the ground and have it bounce pretty much parallel along it to hit someone who's not jumping. Turning that into a practically zero warning oneshot from outside E-litre range sounds waaaaaay overtuned.

[@RinaOfCuteness]

If they did this they’ll have to make make the ink cost higher by an extra 15% and 1 second recharge cooldown.

[@JL-jz3]

As someone stuck with curling, cooking them can be situationally useful, but they are STUPIDLY EXPENSIVE. Like any positive you could maybe get from curling is nullified by the fact that they use up so damn much of the ink tank. So even if you wanted to cook one, you better be doing so very effectively.

[@evancraftgc6271]

Video suggestion: Making a chart that shows what counters what(maybe different colored arrows would indicate hard and soft counters)

[@necrosoma]

They should make the shark like a Dva bomb you can jump off of if you choose, playing into the number of mixups that are possible. It would continue to the full possible length if you hop off, but you still have the options to either ride it there or stop it prematurely if you stay on

[@JuggerNATE93]

I'm still really new and dont play a lot of ranked,but I think reefslider is good for new players to the game. Helps you learn how to gauge distance, teaches you to watch for a moment when the opponents are focused on something else to catch them off guard, and it's always fun when you accidentally hit the panic button in a bad fight and find yourself still alive :) glass-half-full I guess

[@TheOnlyKrispy]

So true! I used to love the reefslider and use it in every turf war match (The feeling u get when you line up a good shot and end up splatting more than 2 players is just *Immaculate*). But when I got to level 10 and started playing ranked, the players got too good and it didn't work anymore :(

[@NunnyNugget]

I feel like Point Sensor could actually do object damage, it kind of makes sense as an E.M.P like ability, so maybe being caught in the initial blast from Point Sensor deals ~150 damage to objects (maybe less to rainmaker shield) which would also make the sub great on weapons with lower object damage to make them viable in the meta

[@Ennbeard]

Unironically I don't understand why Sprinkler needs to decay. If it's in a contested area, the enemy will likely kill it either intentionally or with AoE. If it's NOT in a contested area, it just paints turf that it already painted after awhile. It has a natural timer built in, in that regard. Doesn't need an artificial timer on top of that.

[@ED-gw9rg]

Yeah, I don't get it either. Wish it got some sorta range buff, so it could cover more turf.

[@tabdeugo]

A visual change i would really want for tri-strike is for the landing mark to be able to switch between inkling and octoling icons. It's somthing they did for splatoon 1 with the Octo striker and i was kinda dissapointed to see it always default to inkling icon in splatoon 3.

[@celene4985]

I just had this really strange thought about a buff for Toxic Mist. Since TM already reduces Ink it would also be a cool thing if it could further mess with the enemy by reducing their Special Meter gradually so it could be like a Special counter Sub. What do you guys think?

[@babywizard9027]

My idea to buff Zipcaster is to add a skill shot to the special. If you hit a wall, ceiling, floor, or any surface, you will pull yourself toward that surface, like normal. But if you hit a player directly with the sticky hand, you will pull them towards you instead, while they are being pulled, neither you or the opponent can attack, and the enemy will have 0.5 seconds of endlag after the pull ends, meaning that the Zipcaster user is left in an advantageous position, perfect for getting quick kills. Of course, landing a direct hit with the Zipcast ability would be hard to do on a player, but extremely rewarding if it works, it would also allow you to target backilners without having to go all the way to the enemy side of the map, so your teammates can help you take them down, or simply pull them out of position, acting like a unique kind of aggressive displacement.

[@ShadowSkyX]

C'MERE!!

[@ProChara]

that would prolly break the game with out of bounds, im not opposed to the arm doing small bonus damage though

[@babywizard9027]

@@ProChara Maybe, but you wouldn't be able to pull teammates, and usually you would only pull opponents to quickly Splat them right after. I do agree though, maybe there could be a situation where the Zipcaster pulls someone and then the special ends, leaving someone in a weird position that would be inaccessible normally. Still, even just adding 5 damage to the explosion that happens when you land somewhere would allow you to Zipcast right onto someone for a quick one hit KO, that would be cool as well.

[@desmo-ciel]

I'm thinking backwards, where hitting a player would pull you to them with a 100% chance of direct hit. Way cooler than the hand going thru your opponent when aiming the Zip at them.

[@rouge-ish324]

@@ProChara It would be great if that actually worked as a combo, and it would be range/position dependant too. 20 (or so) dmg slap > the normal 60 Flying dmg > the normal 35 impact dmg

[@thefunkyfish5640]

Great visualization in the video to demonstrate your points to players like me who dont play at competitive, plus the Va11halla music slaps lol

[@MrGanafin]

Thanks for taking the time to demonstrate the effects of subs and specials on 1v1. It’s a lot of work to do that and edit it.

[@ilovesplating3]

The fact that I can totally see the devs putting missiles on the new splattershot nova scares me a little bit.

[@Khyon521]

For Reefslilder they need to shave off the endlag and give it bomb eater properties. This way it’s not a panic button special and you can actually use it without getting jumped as much

[@derpyfailz572]

Toxic mist’s biggest flaw IMO is its total lack of paint and damage. I wish it behaved more like a mini ink storm and either dealt chip damage to opponents caught in it or had slight ink coverage in its AoE.

[@ChunwunB]

Carb has 500 hp is mobile, good dps, good range with little start and end lag Yet booyah bomb a special that is immobile, requires time to charge only has 470 hp with dmg multipliers against it Nintendo clearly didn’t realize what they were doing

[@layordz5158]

The voices

[@ED-gw9rg]

And yet Booyah Bomb feels better than Crab somehow, probably because of lesser vulnerability and less interruption of the usual gameplay.

[@omegabrain230]

For line marker the main problem is there is no situational where you would prefer burst bomb as both are low ink cost combo tools but the line marker is harder to hit with less damage, less paint and a location effect really needs a buff or even a rework

[@Mainonaise]

10:00 a fix for the shredding of object would be to make the inkjet shoot like an explosher. so that it goes through the target, and explodes when it hits a wall. this will not change anything for if it hits an enemy, since they would be dead already anyway.

[@Twig_the_Blue_Pikmin]

FINALLY someone else who thinks Tri-strike is perfectly fine how it is right now and can be pretty good in the right hands!

[@En_n_glish]

Oh my god finally a game where there’s actually utility subs in the “great subs” tier This is revolutionary

[@whobeme10]

another great n helpful vid thanks prochara and have a happy new year!

[@MrNovascar]

Some buff ideas for the low tiers: Line Marker: Gets a small "Auto Aim" when bouncing off a wall(not the floor). This should make it capable of being a recon weapon. When hitting, the marker explodes in a small burst and inks the area under the opponent. Nothing big, just a little annoyance and to slow down the opponent when running away. Toxic Mist: I guess when squid roll is such a counter, it should get an increased effect for that specifically. Making you drop like half way compared to a normal roll. A thing I would be interested in testing would be how the mist would work as a deployable ability like wall. The bottle stays for longer but can be shortened by shooting the bottle. Maybe even increase the mist over time. Lets say it stays for 8 second max and grows up to double the size as normal in that time. Of course other adjustments like cost, throw range or only one mist at a time would also apply. Reefslider: When exploding you jump off the slider in a direction(basically the drop roll gear ability)

[@babywizard9027]

My idea to buff Toxic Mist is to make it paint where it lands, like a larger, more expensive burst bomb that doesn't do damage. This would solve many problems with the sub: it would make it impossible to squid roll inside the radius of the mist, make the slow more effective because now they are slowed and trapped at the same time, now it can charge your special, and it adds new utility, like quickly painting walls or your feet, which can be useful on slower weapons, similar to how burst bomb works. Basically, Toxic Mist would function like the old toxic mist, but with the quick paint of a burst bomb. That way Frontline weapons can use it for the mobility and trapping potential much better. Even better, Tri Slosher will finally have a functional kit. The Inkjet works well on it, and with this buff/rework, it can use the Toxic Mist similarly to how it used the Burst Bomb in Splatoon 2 to increase its mobility, just a little worse at that.

[@unl3ash3d95]

so kind of like the flipper flopper in salmon run?

[@babywizard9027]

@@unl3ash3d95 Not really, as soon as the mist would land, it would instantly paint the whole radius, like a burst bomb.

[@rouge-ish324]

If not instantly, it should do it like Ink Storm within the radius

[@ED-gw9rg]

Make it deal 10 damage with the explosion, too!

[@JMUSICEnsembleOfficial]

Once inkjet lands on a kit that actually makes sense, I see it going up a tier, at least barely. No one plays ballpoint in this game anymore, and having the V ballpoint kit from 2 on tri is just... painful to me.

[@SupraShade]

loving the music choices lately i literally just got into va-11 hall-a this year after hearing the music multiple times years ago

[@Neon_Streets]

One buff i'd like to see for zipcaster is to make both the arm stretch and pull much faster. Right now when you cast to a far location it takes a long time for the arm to attach and and even longer for you to get pulled in. Having both of these parts be insanely fast would give opponents less time to react and pin down the user. This wouldn't fix its biggest weakness of being vulnerable while on the ground fighting, but i think that it's necessary for counterplay. I like inkstorm and i want it to have a bit more of a presence than it currently does, so i want to add a little something extra. First off, slightly lower the speed the cloud travels, this means it will be able to contest a specific area for longer rather than just going away from the objective. Second, add new ability in the form of lightning strikes that will occur randomly within the radius every 1.5 seconds. However if a player is standing in the storm, an icon will appear and the lightning strike will lock onto them (think lightning from breath of the wild) dealing 90 damage on a direct hit and 60 damage in a small explosion radius around the size of a curling bomb. I think giving this to inkstorm would actually make it risky to stay within the storm instead of just ignoring the damage and walking away.

[@rouge-ish324]

I think removing the starting lag when you attach to things would help that immensely

[@shinnaginrb4823]

As the only L-3 player in existence, I can say the curling bomb is a tactical sub. Over time, I've been able to cancel enemy rush-downs with a slow curl, and combo stragglers with the damage. ( Me want burst bomb, though.)

[@romantingle6241]

I love how were basing everything on how well they can kill crab.

[@jambon2730]

I actually fond of toxic mist , it's awesome but faster ink decay of movement debuff would be neat Also sprinkler needs a much bigger area

[@silxer3154]

It's weird, despite how good some of the specials are, none (outside of Tenta Missiles) feel as "oppressive" as some were in Splatoon 2. And most of the good ones only need some number tweaks to tone them back to a more balance state (although a range nerf for Crab might be needed but that's more because of the maps being so small). The weaker specials do need something though, maybe add more effects to an enemy player who is hit by the Ink Vac to make it less of a 3v4, Ink Jet having higher damage/radius on its shot, at etc.

[@crownlessking6436]

I'm actually curious with asking this. Has anyone run into a team running 4 Flingza rollers before? Because I have, and the Missile rain is actually just Aerial Bombardment.

[@roseyAlina]

I remembering during the SPlatfest World Premier, my thoughts on Crab Tank is that in has potential and BOYY WAS I RIGHT

[@jourdainsolis808]

thanks for this video! I can't wait to see your weapons tier list!

[@sewoh100]

My ideas for sub weapon buffs Line Marker -buff damage to 35 -shot now peirces Toxic Mist -diminishing return of Ink Saver Sub decreased slightly -Sub Power Up now increases the radius of Toxic Mist up to 15% Sprinkler -no longer breaks on initial contact with rainmaker sheild -no longer breaks when player is splated Curling Bomb -curling bomb now projects a path on the ground when held that shows its direction, bounce angle, and distance traveled Ink mine -deploy speed slightly increased

[@slyllamademon2652]

Imagine how terrifying splattershot would be with a fizzy bomb and crab tank?

[@mallrat.22]

A good reef slider buff would be to majorly reduce the endlag, bigger explosion radius, and a slightly faster starting time

[@Really-Eon]

Anything can work in solo que but... Either youre too good for your own sanity or your teammates are too good for their own sanity

[@ophylias2107]

This is sincerely so fascinating to see. Also I hear animal crossing music. Extremely good.

[@rubberchickensfoot8912]

Imo sprinklers main use is putting it on walls facing ur team, so the enemy cant hit it easily, and it keeps ur side somewhat painted passively

[@rouge-ish324]

But then you have to keep refreshing it

[@rubberchickensfoot8912]

@@rouge-ish324 yes? I dont see what that has to do with what i said

[@blackatsu22]

I would LOVE if Inkjet had an alternative charge-up shot with bigger damage and longer range as well as the normal one. You could put it on a ranged weapon and use it like a makeshift sniper tower

[@crowberrii]

Had the displeasure of playing against 2 flinzas in soloq and the constant missiles were so annoying to deal with despite the nerf

[@Agent-8]

For tactacooler is n-zap a good option? In anarchy battle Oh and happy new year

[@EclipseKirby]

Hot take here, but give Reef Slider instant invincible start-up. Wait wait wait here me out Panic button specials are generally bad design, but I honestly think with how punishable Slider is on whiff, it can work. Think of it like a EX Shoryuken or wake-up super in Street Fighter games. Those spend meter to provide frame 1 invul for the sake of getting people off you, but they're fair since if they're blocked or dodged, the user is massively punishable. High level players in fighting games have to consider that their opponents have these options and play accordingly, baiting and punishing these invincible moves and its reasonable enough to do this. It works well there and adds a nice layer to the push-and-pull of offense vs defense, with offense usually being favored I feel like Slider is both linear enough and punishable enough to have similar utility and still be well designed. If you gave Slider invincibility of start-up, players could still follow it and punish, weakening its panic use. But it would be a nice and unique option for the slider user, and opponents could recognize this and position accordingly when they see the Slider weapon has special ready. the main concern I'd see here is using Slider to retreat so they can survive and have their explosion go unpunished, but then they'd be giving up substantial ground to do that which the attacking team could capitalize on

[@MoonlitLillypop]

Difference between the two top tier specials is crab is so powerful that everything revolves around if it can counter it, meanwhile missiles are so powerful cuz there really isn't a way to counter it

[@Chara-yp6zj]

When it comes to crabs, as a blaster I try to hit over the crab and kill the person on it, but consistently crab players are able to slightly move either forward or back away from the radius in a way that, either the crab somehow tanks the indirect hit, or it goes over them entirely, and I get splatted immediately after my second shot. I wonder about this interaction. And if crabs should be... even more immobile or something. Or have the hurtboxes adjusted so crab doesn't block hits on the inkling.

[@rouge-ish324]

I hope for more answers to Crab, cause even though it's a little op I think it works perfectly. Maybe a sub damage multiplyer, or a special buff that helps fight it

[@didgeridooo]

2:46 *vicvillon offense*

[@Mousalanche]

Crab not only is very powerful, but also looks very cool too :)

[@projectdolph948]

Is it bad to say that I just straight up did not know what Angle did for like a whole 2 weeks after the game came out, it wasn’t until I got hit by it myself that I knew what it did

[@klaptrap1131]

Hottake: Remove the trail fizzy creates Also, ink vac is perfect for strong coordinated pushes and eats everything (besides being crushed, charged slashed, stamped, or wailed) even the mighty crab tank is put into a bad spot when ink vac prevents it’s control of a area, it still makes you weaponless, perhaps allowing sub’s during it would be good?

[@lunamaster123]

Crab Tank outlasts the suction portion. What ends up happening is that the Crab Tank quickly fills up the Vac and kills the user while they are immobile. Hydra is the same way.

[@hayesmile]

Me, who hasn’t played splatoon since the first 3 months of splatoon 2: ah yes very interesting very helpful

[@DoubleDeeEddBoyChannel]

There is one thing that bothers me about the Toxic Mist and it only took me until Chuggaaconroy’s Splatoon 2 Let’s Play to realize it. You’re breathing mist in, you’d think the effects will linger for a bit as soon as you leave, but they go away immediately upon leaving, which doesn’t make sense to me. That’s one buff I’d like to see on the Toxic Mist, having the effects gradually go away once you leave so that you’re still a bit vulnerable even after escaping the mist.

[@tapoutt_]

an idea i like for toxic mist is it decreasing the duration of some specials; less time to throw TriStrike, less crab, things like that

[@noizepusher7594]

Not only that but it should instantly cancel squid rolls and decrease the special points of anyone in it

[@UltraSquid30]

Happy new year 🎊 Prochara

[@key81885]

Nice to see that you also think booyah is still insane after the nerfs. You can use two subs to cancel it out and the armor and displacement is insane

[@Yuni-ou1ll]

Happy new year,ProChara!😊

[@AJfromtheReefRiders]

Big bubbler and triple inkstrike are easily my favs!😄

[@realblueman_II]

Another thing about fizzy, if you run enough sub saver on NTri you can double fizzy without the need for last ditch effort

[@Spooncakes]

That flick, oh my 0:07

[@unconcernedsalad2]

Villy went so hard on the editing 👏👏

[@pome-granit992]

As a Jet main, I personally find Angle to a very good sub, but it's also VERY limited as you said. It takes a ton of skill compared to the much better torpedo. Granted, Torpedo is harder to ping enemies with, but observant cephalopods will take note of the torpedo's direction. Angle is better at revealing location and flies faster but takes much more skill to use. I ran a test, and surprisingly, 67% of my kills were with my sub, 32% with Main, and 1% with special (i can't use vac for the life of me, still learning it) However, i completely agree with your angle placement. Very limited sub, but feels so nice once you learn it

[@tintage7233]

So fun fact Ultra stamp could maybe be used as a mobility tool because without stamping it its actually incredibly fast on its own. I have had matches where people run through our base and thats it they just run and its very jarring and everyone noticed them but no one caught them so maybe it could be used to get to flank spots quickly

[@tomdaturtle5792]

When I first saw the crab tank, I thought it would be fun, but pretty bad. When I first tried crab tank, I thought it had too little HP, but I enjoyed the splash o matic, and my favorite sub is the burst bomb. Fast forward, crab tank is best special, splash o matic is used a lot, so whenever I play it with friends, they think I'm doing it because its powerful, without realizing I suck!

[@byrontheusurper6505]

I've never played fizzy in 2 but in 3 it is so ungodly fun, I love sloshing machine in this game!

[@kristopherhayes1957]

Splatoon 3 2023 wishlist(open to hearing ideas/criticism): 1# give toxic mist all the abilities and buffs that disruptor had in splatoon 1 2# angle shooter gets damage increase by 10 3# curling bomb get wider trail (maybe sub power up can do this while equipped) 4# sprinkler has no decay effect and has the added ability of indicating when its destroyed 5# throwable ink mines 6# faster autobomb with sub power up in effect 7# missle damage decrease/ missles reduced to targeting 3 players 8# crab tank health reduced by 100 9# boo yeah bomb health reduced 10# zip caster damage and painting radius increased with special power up in effect (maybe also give abilities similar splashdown when jump to allies) 11# increase painting radius on ink jet with special power up in effect 12# faster movement for ultra stamp in stamping mode 13# reefslider regains health after use/ temporary invincibility after use (I am not sure how to buff this special weapon) 🤔 14# last ditch effort nerf to just 2 mains powers of given abilities instead of 3 15# opening gambit it reworked to be similar to last ditch effort 16# tenacity has increase charging stats when teammate is dead 17# comeback is increased from 10 points of each ability it has to 11 points (originally it was 12; this is a good compromise) 18# drop roller moves the player farther than before when rolling (at least outside of suction bomb range) #19 consider thermal ink being used on indirect damage/ bombs (this one I am the most hesitant towards) 20# haunt... I don't honestly know. This one is hard to balance. It can be good or bad depending on the situation.

[@kinechi_churr0s480]

Just to know about the grenade that looks like a fish (I don't know he's English name 'cause i'm French) but is it normal that you don't talk about the fact that he can target a player while in air changing he's blast and trajectories?

[@osiohanu8166]

the grenade that looks like a fish is called "torpedo" in English. he most likely did not mention its targeting function because once the torpedo targets, it moves slowly through the air and can easily be destroyed by rapid fire weapons.

[@delta_power3049]

Have people been using object shredder + ink storm against crab? Or does that not do enough damage. I remember that was a counter to ink armor in splat 2.

[@drphilyasss]

gosh I remeber when everyone was using that clock like gun(ynow that steampunk one)

[@psilitos3804]

Splash o matic

[@williamliao4829]

Toxic Mist has an interesting bug where, if you start squid surging while in toxic mist, you can wait out the toxic mist and recharge ink in squid surge.

[@williamliao4829]

The nature of this glitch is very similar to the patched inkrail zipcaster/inkjet glitch, in which one action overrides another.

[@pitalovr]

Why do you call slosher “bucket” and angle shooter “line marker”?

[@silentmoone]

Who would win: a giant dragon ball ahh blast, or one silly crab boi

[@Ehibika]

this might not be ideal but what if you were able to throw the line marker at the ground, and instead of creating a detection trail it created a line of ink with the same bouncing properties. now, this would make it a far better curling bomb but still I think being able to double as a mobility tool by creating a quick and instant ink line to swim in, plus it IS a marker so it making a line by sliding along the ground makes sense.

[@mystic5175]

Splat bomb my beloved

[@armourdream]

If I were to be honest I’d put Beakon as my favourite sub

[@armourdream]

I remember in the Pokémon splatfest, I hid a beakon on the enemy side in inkblot. I could easily impenetrable the enemy base after death and they weren’t able to find the beakon for 1 and a half to 2 minutes.

[@kwayke9]

Some changes I would do: -Not directly sub related, but sub saver no longer can increase the number of subs you can throw in one ink tank. Big design oversight imo, and it takes care of the lde issue -Iru buffed across the board -Splat bomb goes to 75%, but has slightly less white ink frames (like 5 less max) -Curling bomb to 55% -Burst bomb either gets more ink frames or 45% -Fizzy nerf reverted due to sub saver nerf -Line marker to 30%, and possibly make the tripwire deal 20 damage -Replace mist with disruptor, but it's now 65% and doesn't slow you down as much. Also disables squid roll now (mist is dead with squid roll in the game imo) For specials: -Patch missiles out, fixing it just gives us tristrike 2 -Crab needs a range nerf, big time. And not a small one either, probably 15%. I would nerf the rapid fire dps a bit too (32->30) -Unparriable shark was step one, step 2 is reduce the end lag and probably more damage buffs Inkjet does 160 damage on directs -Stamp rush mode does 45 splash and 150 direct (the air attack is also buffed to 150). Also, it's now a lightweight weapon -Zipcaster no longer uses your ink tank as a timer, but lasts a bit shorter than if you would do nothing with it now -Ink vac, inkjet and zip can now be interrupted manually by pressing the special button again

[@abdulrahiimliadi2002]

They’re not going to remove missiles

[@kwayke9]

@@abdulrahiimliadi2002 don't think so either, but copium is copium, my friend

[@SpidersealXD]

Bad news: missles is on a splatana

[@didgeridooo]

Happy new years man

[@Paraster]

I've commented this on a different video, but I think Toxic Mist should automatically end Rolls/Surges when entering it, prevent these from being used inside it, and deal small continuous damage. Maybe reduce the ink cost a bit, but I'm not sure if that would be overkill with the above. Maybe Curling Bomb could have a "curve" feature where it turns slightly if you hold left or right while throwing it? Or would that mess with strafing?

[@RiverWilliamson]

People were poo-pooing the crab at launch, but I loved it immediately. It's a big robot, so I'm biased to it. Still huge HP, decent mobility, and great painting and damage. There was and is no real downside to it. (It isn't a win-button, but still). I get a good laugh in B-tier when my opponents believe it's perfect. Ha-ha, get flanked!

[@sarahm6962]

I use the Reefslider and neeeeever die after, and if someone somehow survived I gun em down with my trusty Aerospray.

[@Big_Man-taro]

I think that they cound honestly combine toxic mist qnd point sensor, the effect of the mist sticking around plus the locating of point would make it definitely more useful, not enough to move it up by much in the list but still better imo

[@byrontheusurper6505]

God I love this guy