High ISO, Sharpness & Autofocus - Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K - Q&A Part 1

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@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Hi everyone, if you're interested in having a play around with some of the RAW footage, we have both Prores and RAW test footage available here: www.dropbox.com/sh/ec12nhr92499c6n/AADWlXifk5wXDNsUr9_x1nWma?dl=0
@mrwashur1991
@mrwashur1991 4 жыл бұрын
I think we started going to MB/s once Mbps got too high. After 1080p Prores or Cdng it just makes more sense to go MBps for 4k as it's not in the thousands anymore. It just becomes a mouthful or it changes to Gbps, and if you're versed in computers or codecs then you you know what it translates to. Just like with ssd speeds. Now we're in GBps instead of MBps. Idk just seems to make sense to me.
@sambuca19
@sambuca19 6 жыл бұрын
Are you sure you have enough ProAV TV stickers on the camera? :D
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure we can squeeze a few more in there.... Dan
@wubbsy
@wubbsy 6 жыл бұрын
ProAV TV yes please
@GearSeekers
@GearSeekers 6 жыл бұрын
Wow really that's the thing you took from this video lol.
@ThompterSHunson
@ThompterSHunson 6 жыл бұрын
@ProAV TV If you haven't tattooed on your buttock then you're not devoted enough. Oh, wait...
@sambuca19
@sambuca19 6 жыл бұрын
@@GearSeekers Of course not the only but the first thing ;)
@MohammadOweini
@MohammadOweini 6 жыл бұрын
performance with metabones speed booster with different focal length and lenses.
@collinss10
@collinss10 6 жыл бұрын
I want this information too
@_rhapsodist
@_rhapsodist 6 жыл бұрын
yes please
@BurnoutsAndBourbon
@BurnoutsAndBourbon 6 жыл бұрын
This!
@besisikaphotography3061
@besisikaphotography3061 6 жыл бұрын
Me too, please!
@lyt5777
@lyt5777 6 жыл бұрын
@@allenpayne9182 .
@RobertHalvarsson
@RobertHalvarsson 6 жыл бұрын
Seriousness in combination with great presentation.
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Carl
@filmmakeranto
@filmmakeranto 6 жыл бұрын
What i would really like to know is how the camera can handle consistently in actual shooting atmosphere. Is this camera truly robust to shoot a low budget indie feature or Gh5 is the way to go? Is it apt to shell our hard earned money on this for filmmaking or do you suggest something else? Compare with the usability and image quality of C200, C300, Fs5Mkii, FS7, A73, Gh5 and maybe a red epic. It's not about weather this camera is better or not, it's just to know how the colors look. Also the practical advantages of windowed 120 fps,what lenses are better if we shoot something like skateboarding/motorcycling etc,. Where 120fps is much more useful.
@dandrescher4098
@dandrescher4098 6 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up to other viewers.... watching the footage on a computer changes absolutely every opinion I had. Thanks for the great content guys.
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Carl
@ANigerianPrince
@ANigerianPrince 6 жыл бұрын
You just poured a bucket of satisfaction onto the many people obsessed with the P4K
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped Carl
@Racosz
@Racosz 6 жыл бұрын
This is the best Q&A review on KZbin ever. Complete, serious, perfectly done. Congrats for this channel.
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you like the style of our videos Carl
@ERIKOLSONTPM
@ERIKOLSONTPM 6 жыл бұрын
Your three-part series on the BMD Pocket 4K should be the first thing anyone watches! Very good preliminary work that should satisfy owner-operators. Certainly, there will be people who are more interested in being video engineers than creators, who will want more. But I'd send everyone looking to purchase this system, or use it on a project, to you first. Hope you'll follow-up when BMD RAW is added. Thanks!
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching. Carl
@paulschneider5772
@paulschneider5772 6 жыл бұрын
Played with the camera at Cinegear specifically looking for rolling shutter. Was happy to see there was apparently very little, but would enjoy seeing a more detailed test of it.
@ERIKOLSONTPM
@ERIKOLSONTPM 6 жыл бұрын
It's a tool. The ASC Manual has always had pan speed data, which was driven by things like: focal length; frame rate; shutter angle. Digital imagers simply have to be treated in much the same way. Even with global shutters, the old rules should be taken into account for camera movement.
@paulschneider5772
@paulschneider5772 6 жыл бұрын
Sure. Not sure what in my comment initiated this response. Just happy the cams are getting faster with less jello/rolling-shutter artifacts.
@TonyMacina
@TonyMacina 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video comparing the best MFT primes on this camera such as the Veydra and the Voigtlander lenses vs EF cine primes such as Xeen or CN-E with a speedbooster. Considering the set of four Voigtlanders is about £4k, while that will buy you just two Xeens or one CN-E and an adapter, it'd be fun to see. Wasn't smaller and lighter the purpose of MFT video cameras like this Blackmagic and the GH5s to begin with?
@MohammadOweini
@MohammadOweini 6 жыл бұрын
thank you for your attention to details and professionalism in these videos. Everything is clear and even the info tab is well written and laid out. The team behind these videos deserve a pat on a back and an A+ score.
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
What a great comment, thank you very much! Glad you found it useful Carl
@saewms2616
@saewms2616 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing Q&A and quite a remarkable camera. I would love to see a comparison between this and your C300!
6 жыл бұрын
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@saewms2616
@saewms2616 6 жыл бұрын
Markus Magnon Exactly. Being compared to actual cinema cameras is most appropriate. Those other cameras (GH5, A7III etc) are for photography with some video features.
@stefantasic9271
@stefantasic9271 6 жыл бұрын
If you can, compare it to the Fujifilm X-T3. I know they are quite different, especially when it comes to codecs, but the video features on the Fuji are awesome so it would be very interesting to see how it holds up.
@PerthYouthFilmAcademy
@PerthYouthFilmAcademy 6 жыл бұрын
Get both, would be a lovely cheep A & B cam combo. Don't stress about Ibis, learn how to hold a camera and compose a shot instead of gabbling around to make it look more interesting. Both great cameras with fantastic skin tones.
@Edge-dy9fh
@Edge-dy9fh 6 жыл бұрын
Or use a gimbal.
@ShivaPrakash
@ShivaPrakash 5 жыл бұрын
I'm choosing between these two as well, I'm leaning towards the X-T3 and pairing it with the Ronin S because I figure any shot that will benefit from a gimbal (e.g. filming someone's face while they are walking) would benefit from continuous auto focus. The colour science is also good on it; the BMPCC's major draw for me is low light performance.
@thebrothersthre3987
@thebrothersthre3987 5 жыл бұрын
@@ShivaPrakash What did you end up going with? I have an XT3 and you are right in regards to auto focus. Doing stuff like a tracking shot, especially with shallow DOF, its just amazing to have. I am saving for the Pocket 4k though, the compressed RAW and low light performance look amazing, especially for 1k.
@maxbootstrap7397
@maxbootstrap7397 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a very close-up comparison of CinemaDNG and BlackmagicRAW (especially Q0 and Q5).
@ProjectOverseer
@ProjectOverseer 6 жыл бұрын
My original opinion is changing fast. I'm liking this camera more. To be fair, I also got a few things wrong in the spec department. It's a much better camera than I originally thought 👍 Many thanks for the overview.
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
No problem, thanks for watching Carl
@TimGvr
@TimGvr 6 жыл бұрын
Good to see my question about IR answered! Cheers!
@xLightcrystalx
@xLightcrystalx 6 жыл бұрын
Yea that's amazing. Although he didn't GRADE them
@BigPileOfWesley
@BigPileOfWesley 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for answering the autofocus question! It must come with some sort of focus peaking function so that you can keep a moving object in focus, I assume? Thanks again for the good video on this. If you have a DJI Ronin S, I'd also be very interested to see if you can use the follow focus wheel with the BMPCC4K. But no worries. Thanks!
@98JamesNixon
@98JamesNixon 6 жыл бұрын
BigPileOfWesley following this post as I was thinking the same thing!
@BurnoutsAndBourbon
@BurnoutsAndBourbon 6 жыл бұрын
Would love to know this as well
@PerthYouthFilmAcademy
@PerthYouthFilmAcademy 6 жыл бұрын
There is nothing as yet, but DJi might implement something as the BMPCC4k and Ronan-S will be a popular combo.
@tijmenbrouwers
@tijmenbrouwers 6 жыл бұрын
Really nice tests! Some input for the next video: 1. Does it really have the advertised 13 stops of dynamic range? 2. How does the camera compare to the Kinefinity Terra 4k (kind of similar sensor specs) 3. What kind of images can you get with a speedbooster and the sigma 18-35 or some fullframe lenses
@nordfresse
@nordfresse 6 жыл бұрын
3. There are some clips from a filmmaker out of korea on yt who used that setup and it looks beautyfull. (What do you expect?)
@d.c.sheets2592
@d.c.sheets2592 6 жыл бұрын
Very well done video! You answered a lot of great questions. Thank you so much for taking the time.
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad it helped! Carl
@EvanFotis
@EvanFotis 6 жыл бұрын
Two questions I cannot find a concrete answer from reading the PDF manual: Does the pocket support auto ISO? Setting a steady shutter speed and a fixed aperture, the camera must auto-expose by adjusting ISO / gain? Does the pocket support common AWB? The manual on p37 names AWB what all other manufactures have as custom WB, where it is set via a grey card etc. Have you found a true AWB that changes depending on lighting conditions?
@1fareast14
@1fareast14 6 жыл бұрын
The big question for my next camera purchase is if it's worth losing auto focus. An image quality comparison between this, Gh5s, z6, xt-3, a7iii when using log would be very helpful! If you can only do one, my vote is the xt-3.
@alecwry
@alecwry 6 жыл бұрын
Another topic I would like to see covered is practical power set ups. The battery life is one of the main things keeping me from pre-ordering, and coming from mirrorless camera's I don't even know where to start with bigger power solutions.
@kutaykosem
@kutaykosem 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time and answering all these questions, it was veri informative. I would really like to see the mini xlr in the work, a sound test to see the quality of the preamp in the camera might be interesting
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, audio will be covered in the next video Carl
@Sr7Sr7Sr7
@Sr7Sr7Sr7 6 жыл бұрын
Very impressed with this video. Extremely high quality and informative.
@labrow
@labrow 4 жыл бұрын
Very detailed and clear. I’m looking at getting one of these with some good glass and my main concern is the auto focus.
@InfectedSolitude
@InfectedSolitude 6 жыл бұрын
What about the rolling shutter performance? Some quick pans would be great. I would also love to know how this camera rigs out. Does the form factor block it from balancing well on traditional shoulder rigs? (Tilta, Arri, Movcam) etc.. Do you need to over expose in their LOG gamma like you do with S-LOG for example? A candle-lit shot with lots of black shadow areas, exposed normally based on a light meter reading would be great visualize whether or not it's going to give you noisy shadows due to small sensor size and how much light the pixels are actually obtaining.
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Future videos will cover all of these questions, don't worry. Thanks for watching Carl
@InfectedSolitude
@InfectedSolitude 6 жыл бұрын
ProAV TV thanks for the reply! Also another thing I was wondering about: how’s the workflow with the CDNG RAW? Having shot ARRIRAW, you have to go into debayering to turn the image into an RGB image. Do you have to do that with the BMPCC as well?
@UpgradeRomania
@UpgradeRomania 5 жыл бұрын
Now this is a professional and in depth review and testing video. Great job sir!
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Glad you found it useful. Carl
@RICH_Photography
@RICH_Photography 6 жыл бұрын
This is truly the reviews that a tech head likes. Great job...ps I’m happy with my GH5S purchase over the BMPCC4K especially after seeing how some features of the GH suit my filming style more than the BM.
@marieflowers2988
@marieflowers2988 6 жыл бұрын
Deep down you know that Blackmagic pocket blows GH5S in all aspects, except weather sealing and battery life
@dcoder6404
@dcoder6404 6 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say good work, young man! Very well done, indeed. Looking forward to your continued review of the BMPCC4k.
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you are enjoying them. At least 3 more videos are planned! Carl
@VictorSavelle
@VictorSavelle 6 жыл бұрын
I am just now picking up this camera, this video did a great job answering questions I didn't even know I had. Superb. :)
@IvanSchoeman
@IvanSchoeman 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Guys this was really helpful! Really good job at answering the right questions. I cant wait to get me one!
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! Carl
@alejandrocontent6694
@alejandrocontent6694 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being informative . Having those questions answered definitely adds clarity . Subscribed!
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for subscribing! More BMPCC4K videos are coming Carl
@gradientvisuals18
@gradientvisuals18 6 жыл бұрын
I realize this isn't going to be the most popular option, but I'd love to see a comparison between this camera and Blackmagic's other budget friendly offerings. The original Pocket Cinema Camera, and the Cinema Camera 2.5K/Production camera 4K. How well would each camera compliment the others in a A-cam/B-cam setup? How do the images stack up in terms of Dynamic range, skin tones, noise levels, etc? Do the older models hold any advantages over the PCC4K or outperform it in any way? Blackmagic is at the forefront of accessible high quality cameras, so which of their contributions in that market takes the cake considering it's current market value? Which offers the best image quality for the low budget filmmaker's dollar? Obviously, the PCC4K outperforms these other models in many ways on paper, so a focus on overall image quality as opposed to specs would be necessary. At the very least, it would be fun to watch!
@expatlifekorea9526
@expatlifekorea9526 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Please compare it to the Panasonic GH5s since they apparently have the same sensor. I think a lot of people are curious about the differences!
@OzReel
@OzReel 6 жыл бұрын
Finally someone testing moire and aliasing. Thank You!
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Carl
@JoakimKjellander
@JoakimKjellander 6 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't it shoot in 3:1 and 4:1 in raw and not 3:1 and 5:1?
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
You're right! I have been calling it the wrong number... sigh, too many things to remember! Carl
@owlmuso
@owlmuso 6 жыл бұрын
Really good review. Like really good. Unlike other reviews where I come away feeling like I just got a generic understanding of the camera, you actually know your technical stuff and can explain the technical issues related to camera in a meaningful way. So not only do I get to know the camera better, but I learn something about the art of video. thank you. Definitely subbed. Btw, starting to like this camera
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thanks for subscribing Carl
@marion_roberts
@marion_roberts 6 жыл бұрын
If you could include in your next video some affordable recommendations that would address some of the camera's limitations like lack of IBIS, battery life, and low light performance, that would be very much appreciated.
@Team.Louish
@Team.Louish 6 жыл бұрын
Is 1080p at 60fps downsampled from 4k like your 25fps example? Or is 60fps windows 2x also??
@anthonycayetano4366
@anthonycayetano4366 6 жыл бұрын
Lovely and informative video. My only request is how much of a difference in detail and recovery between ProRes and DNG Raw when doing low light. This is quite important for us wedding videographers. Thank You.
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
We will be doing underexposure recovery tests in our comparisons video which I believe is what you're looking for. Carl
@toojmastsab
@toojmastsab 5 жыл бұрын
I’m sure the next version will come with inbody stabilization.
@dragonstone6594
@dragonstone6594 6 жыл бұрын
I wish you could shoot a little action sequence, like a little parkour chase video. And do some fast panning with the camera to see how the rolling shutter affects the shot.
@JOATZR
@JOATZR 6 жыл бұрын
Please test the moiré pattern with some well lilluminated, detail rich fabric like casual shirt or suit with tight pattern. It was nightmare with original bmpcc to record interviews with businessman wearing fancy suits that had detailed pattern on it. Specially in ProRes mode. From this test here, i see it's better but still can't say that there is no moire problems with bmpcc4k. Thanks!
@mps11397
@mps11397 6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Extremely informative. Thanks for taking time to make these.
6 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know if the Viltrox EF M2 is compatible. Great video!
@Gablarkin
@Gablarkin 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure its compatible
@thetys4659
@thetys4659 6 жыл бұрын
I have seen many comments and videos that stated that it is not compatible yet. You can't control the aperture, etc. at the moment.
@SigurdGrimsby
@SigurdGrimsby 6 жыл бұрын
i believe that will be fixed with an update for the viltrox
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! Hope it'll be fixed soon :)
@PerthYouthFilmAcademy
@PerthYouthFilmAcademy 6 жыл бұрын
I have a BMPCC4k and a Vitrox, Aperture and is works fine, as yet AF does not. Lens tested are, Sigma 18-35, Canon 70-200, Tokina 11-16, Ziess Dist 21, 2.8, All work fine, IS works fine, but no AF as yet.
@DutchAussieProductions
@DutchAussieProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very detailed informative video on this camera. I am still waiting for the camera to become available for general sale in Australia. The shops will have to honor their pre-orders first.
@Byolegy1
@Byolegy1 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video, very useful information 👍
@xXxAmadeuzxXx
@xXxAmadeuzxXx 4 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. Very hard work to do all this testing. Thank you
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 4 жыл бұрын
No problem, thanks for watching Carl
@oscarbirkhellenes9724
@oscarbirkhellenes9724 6 жыл бұрын
Would like to see a test of the UMP vs BMPCC4K. I am wondering if this could actually replace the bigger camera for most of my shoots.
@HollywoodweddingfilmsGREECE
@HollywoodweddingfilmsGREECE 6 жыл бұрын
Extremely informative video ... THANK you for doing this. Please , at the DATA RATE chart , put a label explaining to people that it concerns ONLY 30p framerates. Again , EXCELLENT work !!! Greedings from GREECE.
@haskinsdaniel
@haskinsdaniel 6 жыл бұрын
Please compare to G85! I have G85 for video as I'm sure a lot do, and want to see if it's worth the upgrade cost.
@255132a
@255132a 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Haskins it’s an obvious “yes” mate
@kprox1994
@kprox1994 6 жыл бұрын
Tony Cortez no flippy screen tho
@030tango
@030tango 6 жыл бұрын
Can you check the dynamic range in situations like concerts?
@francocircolone9355
@francocircolone9355 6 жыл бұрын
Could you please compare the dynamic range and the rolling shutter between the 4K mode and the FullHD mode of this camera. Also, a comparison of the dynamic range and rolling shutter of this camera with the GH5s and the Fuji XT3 would be great.
@xpertstrategist2216
@xpertstrategist2216 6 жыл бұрын
Well explained and detailed. Great effort put into this research
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Carl
@NoëlMaasdam
@NoëlMaasdam 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to know how it can be set up for vlog style shooting. (Aside the BPCC, would you do a review of the Sony Z190? I know you have done one for the Z280, but I’m very curious about a comparison to the Z280 as well as how it sets itself apart from its competitors in the same price range). Thanks for your clear reviews. I always love watching them.
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching I will be doing a video on the Sony Z190 at some point soon. It is on the list! Carl
@jessetimmmiller1870
@jessetimmmiller1870 2 жыл бұрын
@5:17 I noticed the same thing while shooting my friend's wedding. High frame rate shots played back at 24fps were softer and darker in exposure compared to "regular" shots. Why is that?
@williamrowbottom5246
@williamrowbottom5246 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to see 60fps raw in 4K on the Black Magic Pocket camera compared to the Canon c200. With Cinema DNG raw and Black Magic Raw both in 4K. As well as with a meta bones speed booster on the pocket 4K. And 120fps in HD on both cameras.
@garrinbowden
@garrinbowden 6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@WhitelineTelevision
@WhitelineTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Nice, quite thorough, well done.
@froopenstein
@froopenstein 6 жыл бұрын
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE OIS IN THE LUMIX LENSES FAIRED & ALSO IS THERE ANY SOFTWARE DISTORTION CORRECTION IN THE WORKFLOW SOMEHOW...ALSO HOW MUCH HIGHLIGHT RECOVERY USING 10BIT PRORES ...PLUS A DETAILED GH5s COMPARISON - CHEERS
@thesherlock35
@thesherlock35 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great info for anyone looking at this camera. I have a GH5 with Olympus pro line of lenses. I would like to see a side by side of the 2 cameras using the same glass ob both. Then pointing out the differences,strengths and weaknesses. Thinking of adding this camera. Also what accessories for the camera as well as best way to transfer to computer. Thanks
@PerthYouthFilmAcademy
@PerthYouthFilmAcademy 6 жыл бұрын
Great job! Solid real-world review well explained. I am so sick of people just quoting specs and others in their reviews, great to see something actually tested by the reviewer. Wondered if the 5.1 is a typo. Mine has 4.1 (or perhaps the firmware needs upgrading).
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
No, its my mistake. I was saying 5:1 all the way through making this, when really its 4:1. Apologies Carl
@littletheatrefilms5825
@littletheatrefilms5825 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you again. Excellent as always. I did think the C200 data was huge, did not comprehend the size comparison. Plus a great explanation about dual native iso. Excellent information to have.
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
No problem, glad it helped! Carl
@ronny99000
@ronny99000 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video.. would be interesting how good the autofocus is in lowlight. For example on a gimbal..
@landolakes
@landolakes 6 жыл бұрын
Great information. I'd maybe bump up the volume in future videos though. Had to turn this one up pretty high.
@MoeNegm
@MoeNegm 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sick of it, sick watching your videos as a visitor. So I fixed that, subscribed :) Great content mate!
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome! Thanks for watching Carl
@andyocineoficial
@andyocineoficial 6 жыл бұрын
Would like to see it heavily graded in a cinematic style. Teal and orange for example. thanks!
@bumkiss
@bumkiss 6 жыл бұрын
Teal and orange... ew.
@ERIKOLSONTPM
@ERIKOLSONTPM 6 жыл бұрын
#Basic But damn if we don't see this all the time.
@besisikaphotography3061
@besisikaphotography3061 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch for doing this. I have always loved Prores but I have never had a camera shooting in prores directly. I have used only Atomos. I am interested on the metabones speedbooster with any Canon lens, if you have a chance
@VariTimo
@VariTimo 6 жыл бұрын
*Rolling Shutter is super important* This will decide everything for me. If it's worse, there is not way I'm gonna give up my GH5s for the BMPCC4K
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
We will cover rolling shutter in the next video Carl
@WhiteMidnightFilms
@WhiteMidnightFilms 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video comparing uncompressed raw to 3:1 to 4:1. And is 4:1 that different than 422hq, at that point, is the smaller 4:1 better quality than 422hq?
@ThomasDeWeerdt
@ThomasDeWeerdt 6 жыл бұрын
You know you're a pro video geek, when dating a color chart in an Italian restaurant ;). Great work, thank you PRO AV
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
The conversation was very one sided.... Thanks for watching Carl
@christianschmeer
@christianschmeer 6 жыл бұрын
Could you please check the screen for backlight bleeding?
@LukeSegreto
@LukeSegreto 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Lots of good information!
@gurudeclan
@gurudeclan 6 жыл бұрын
You asked for suggestions for comparisons. GH5 and A73 immediately spring to mind.
@martyspandex
@martyspandex 6 жыл бұрын
Well thought out and executed video.
@BiteSiteInc
@BiteSiteInc 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Carl - amazing videos as always. Love what you're covering as we're waiting for our pre-order over here in Canada. A couple of quick questions: 1. Can you do a direct footage transfer from the camera to a computer with a USB-A to USB-C cable? I'm wondering if I can avoid purchasing a CFast reader. 2. How good (or bad) are the on-board microphones? 3. How good are the audio pre-amps with the 3.5mm jack? With the XLR input?
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
I dont believe you can transfer to a computer, only record directly to an SSD. We will test the audio in our Part 2 video Carl
@BiteSiteInc
@BiteSiteInc 6 жыл бұрын
Great. Thanks!
@bernzeppi
@bernzeppi 6 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know what the rolling shutter jello effect is like. Passing cars, whip pans, traveling etc.
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Next video will show a rolling shutter example Carl
@jorgevilleda
@jorgevilleda 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm falling in love with this camera ... I want to buy it ... but I have some doubts I have lenses with Canon EF mount 1 - What do I lose if I use adapters? image clipping? aberrations? focus? touch focus? 2 - can I record with this camera for one or two hours continuously, like a normal video camera? (obviously with banks of batteries and large hard drives) but the camera would support that? 3 - the touch focus works while the camera is recording? 4 - If I can not use my lenses with EF frames, what lens do you recommend? that give me quality and price blessings from Guatemala you have a new follower from here
@longshot4484
@longshot4484 5 жыл бұрын
I think you have now got you're question answered. Which means you have buyed it.
@oceanus108
@oceanus108 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing these tests, very helpful information, much appreciated.
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
No problem, thanks for watching Carl
@pgtips4240
@pgtips4240 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, an amateur question here. Due to the fact the bmpcc4k is a pro sumer video camera I notice the footage in not sharpened at all like you often get in other consumer cameras. My question is, can the detail and sharpness be teased out in post in situations where you want video to look tac sharp? Would it handle this or would the footage just look strange? I love the cinematic look but there will be times when I would want the footage to look a bit less cinema and a bit more sharp if this makes sense?
@maxsaltin1001
@maxsaltin1001 6 жыл бұрын
Such a Pro Reviewer! Honestly, I look forward to seeing your further testing! I think you know best which to compare it to! Idk, Ursa Pro, EVA1, FS7, the bigger ones against the supernew Little one :D
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Carl
@djjudd566
@djjudd566 6 жыл бұрын
Compare it with the Kinefinity Terra. I'm really interested to see a comparison.
@starky497
@starky497 6 жыл бұрын
A comparison to Fujifilm XT3, especially dynamic range and high iso noise performance would be very helpful thankyou
@boondocksaints1
@boondocksaints1 6 жыл бұрын
I am curious as to how the rolling shutter performs, is it as bad as the original pocket?
@Channel8eight
@Channel8eight 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, does the Black magic app allow you to use your phone as a viewfinder similar to the Panasonic image app?
@firworks
@firworks 6 жыл бұрын
It does not have live view capability. You can control the settings and start / stop recording but it's not quite as capable as the Panasonic Lumix Image App.
@robbydevillez4635
@robbydevillez4635 6 жыл бұрын
Are all the 1080 internal recording formats windowed? Could elaborate on the "windowing" of this camera? Thanks
@ChannelWright
@ChannelWright 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Really needed to see this- great work!
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped, thanks for watching Carl
@podtechmodkit
@podtechmodkit 5 жыл бұрын
Could this be an upgrade from an FS700+Shogun Inferno?
@HakonBroderLund
@HakonBroderLund 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Answered most things I have been wondering about. Only thing missing is how does it color grade to the Ursa Mini Pro? Perfect B cam?
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
We will be comparing it to that and to other cameras as well soon. Carl
@benthurr
@benthurr 4 жыл бұрын
My bmpcc 4k's push autofocus won't work, if i tap or hold it it just won't listen. Is it because I'm using a viltrox speed booster?
@katseazzz
@katseazzz 3 жыл бұрын
did you found solution?
@myownfriend23
@myownfriend23 6 жыл бұрын
The Highlight Recovery option in Resolve doesn't actually get any extra detail out of the highlights, instead it simply reconstructs data based on channels that aren't clipping. This is something that could be done with ProRes footage as well but Blackmagic has chosen to only enable the option for RAW footage. It may still be the case that there is more data in the highlights in CDNG then in ProRes based off bit-depth alone but that would be detail you'd be able to get back even with Highlight Recover unchecked. The other thing I wanted to point out is that way you mentioned Canon RAW Lite and CDNG Lossless, it can make it sound like RAW Lite is lossless but is in fact lossy which is why it's bitrate is comparable to 3:1 or 4:1 (there is no 5:1 option).
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 6 жыл бұрын
I tried to recover it with the highlights slider and lift gamma and gain but couldnt get that detail back. Only ticking the highlight recovery option worked for me. I am no colourist though! Carl
@myownfriend23
@myownfriend23 6 жыл бұрын
@@ProAVTV So its likely that the extra data in the clouds is actually interpolated from the other channels. In theory, if Resolve added Highlight Recovery options in the color wheels area then you would be able to pull the same data or close to it, from the ProRes file.
@benjaminjoost-meyerzubakum4897
@benjaminjoost-meyerzubakum4897 6 жыл бұрын
How fast is it ready to shoot? Is it good for run and gun or is it a production camera?
@CyrosonHD
@CyrosonHD 6 жыл бұрын
Great stuff as always from you Carl. I'd be interested in seeing a detailed test of the various media options using products from different brands/manufacturers. Q1: Does the camera still record audio when shooting in variable frame rates? Q2: When recording if a media option reaches capacity, does the camera continue recording onto another media option if it has enough write speeds to do so? For example, SSD to CF to SD?
@mankescott7183
@mankescott7183 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for a great Video! I whould be interested in a Video Quality comparison of C DNG 5:1 to Prores. Whats the difference when you have nearly the same Datarate!? Thank you.
@MoeNegm
@MoeNegm 5 жыл бұрын
I'm really going crazy trying to decide between BMPCC 4K and the C100mark ii. I absolutely LOVE the look of the c100 but I can't believe this camera is only $1,300 new compared to the C100m2 ($3000) new here in the US. I also love that there is continuous autofocus in the C100m2. Although I don't ever shoot in 4K it would be nice to have it just in case. IDK, I need help! I shoot events mostly, run and gun, and some KZbin videos that's what it would be used for.
@ProAVTV
@ProAVTV 5 жыл бұрын
Can I add EOS R to the mix? If you like the canon look, continuous autofocus and only really interested in 1080p could be a great choice? Carl
@littletheatrefilms5825
@littletheatrefilms5825 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I was curious about the Bluetooth app. How well does it function with the camera and does the autofocus button on it work only center or can you preselected the position? Since they don’t have full WiFi functioning it would be nice to just need an external monitor and app to film yourself in a pinch, rather than adding a WiFi follow focus too.
@modrisklingenbergs
@modrisklingenbergs 6 жыл бұрын
How about photos from this camera? Lowlight...? Comparison vs gh5?
@Nicdehouwer
@Nicdehouwer 6 жыл бұрын
Not a stills camera. You want good stills, get a different one.
@EugeniaLoli
@EugeniaLoli 6 жыл бұрын
There's already a comparison against the Alexa and gh5 with this cam, from wolfcrow here on youtube.
@Herfinnur
@Herfinnur 6 жыл бұрын
"it's not made for this one thing that it is actually able to do, so we must all completely ignore this feature!" Why flat out deny photography tests on some stubborn, conceited prejudice!? It might be surprisingly good, average or pure shit. Whatever it is, a comparison will be illuminating, so why the hell not just test it and see what is what? Even GoPros have been tested for photography, and it's good to know that a GoPro takes useable if not stellar photos, just like it's good to know whether this video camera with photography abilities takes useable or maybe even stellar photos
@andrewjeffreys
@andrewjeffreys 6 жыл бұрын
It's not a prejudice--this camera literally does not take photography stills. There's no built-in photo mode like GoPros have. Could you cut out a frame from a video and get it printed out? Sure, but what you've got is one of the hardest to use photography modes ever conceived. I know it has the body of a traditional stills camera, but it doesn't have that functionality built-in.
@modrisklingenbergs
@modrisklingenbergs 6 жыл бұрын
@@andrewjeffreys thanx!
@RetroComputers
@RetroComputers 6 жыл бұрын
Please add information what lenses you are using (next to the coded info) on the screen when showing the sample footage. Thanks
@smokesixkiller4292
@smokesixkiller4292 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to record out to an atomos via HDMI, and an SSD via USB-C at the same time? Love this camera but really need a way to dual record. Ty!
@skycuad204
@skycuad204 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video, very instructive and serious. Can you propose what configuration a PC should have to process Raw Lossless and Proress video files?
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