Is the Intel Arc A770 16GB Worth It in 2024?

[@Saabjock]

I purchased the A770-16GB LE back in late December of 2022. Somehow I largely avoided the early in-game driver issues, though I did fight a bit with at least three installers. The key to a good ARC experience (in my case) was not installing ARC control. I did not encounter the resource hogging in the Task Manager or the constant annoying popups. Overall, it has been a very good experience. I even use my card for VR.

[@MrTiJackSH]

They fixed Arc Control since a few months already.

[@Saabjock]

@@MrTiJackSH It (ARC control) has nothing I want. The game capture doesn't have a hotkey, so I use OBS for that feature. Temps I monitor with HWinfo and I never OC GPUs or modern CPUs, so no real benefit for me anyway.

[@nathanielenochs1843]

The developers weren’t given a chance to optimize their games for the Intel arc series cards

[@USArmyVet91]

Yes yes, totally agree.

[@Starwarman1]

That’s true. But intel has done a great Job of making things work on their end. I’m excited to see what they can do in the future. They may be a viable upgrade path by the time I’m ready to move off of my 3080

[@JayzBeerz]

We need 2nd Gen Intel cards already.

[@thebook5458]

They r still trying to optimize to games before releasing next gen

[@thekidthatanidiot1262]

In Q2 of this year we’re supposed to get the “battlemage” with a 400-500$ price tag with the performance near a 4080.

[@GeneralS1mba]

​@@thekidthatanidiot1262No, leaks say 4070 not 4080.

[@Edward135i]

@@thekidthatanidiot1262 LMAO, ya right, a roulette wheel has better odds.

[@txcavi]

They have to keep making money. Im on the fence on going to get this right now, or wait until battle mage. Im on a 1660.......

[@DeadCat-42]

My 3060ti is in my backup PC. My a77016 is my primary GPU now.

[@nickg164]

I’ve considered the ARC A750 for a budget build and coming off a Gaming laptop since the GPU apocalypse has receded some. Limited edition is what I have my eyes set on, too bad the A770 isn’t made any further.

[@USArmyVet91]

Yes it is worth it. It gives me solid 1440p performance.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

thank you for serving our country. revenge for the uss liberty 🇺🇸

[@ElevateAerial]

Same here 8gb version asrock solid 1440p

[@danielmachac4764]

What you play and how much fps ? 🤔

[@paulboyce8537]

My impression is that the architecture in ARC is much more playable and more detail with lot better frame time. 1080p you might get more FPS from 4060 but I would argue the experience is better from the ARC. This shows to me the difference in architecture that on Nvidia tries to fill the gaps and inconsistency of the frame time by doubling the FPS. So the reality is more like dividing the FPS of the Nvidia by 2 to have more accurate comparison or multiply the ARC by 2. This would make more sense when talking 4k. 40FPS treshold and over the ARC is very playable. Maybe even 30FPS. Compare that to 4060 that can't deliver on 60FPS or even 120FPS that you would get from 4070ti for example. I put this to the CPU/GPU pairing and REBAR/E-Cores. Also has to be said the bus on Nvidia is not capable. ARC does twice the work but still only show the single results. Twice meaning GPU + CPU. So is it fair to claim 30FPS from the ARC actually equals 60FPS performance. It is a bit of a gray area. But what comes to play-ability it is clear that ARC can with lot less FPS. I think this is also the reason why INTEL gave us a tool to pair the ARC and compare to the right CPU because it has a huge impact on the performance.

[@Saabjock]

I too, find my A770-16 to be extremely smooth in gameplay...almost television-like. Most of the reviews I've read, have mentioned frame-time pacing issues. I don't have any such issues...never have. I did spend a lot of time and did quite a bit of research to optimize my BIOS.

[@paulboyce8537]

@@Saabjock I believe different architecture should be reviewed different. FPS vs FPS doesn't seem to give the true performance once you get over the threshold to playable. In AMD/Nvidia the GPU does most of the executions. That is one processor. INTEL ARC uses both GPU and CPU much more equally. That is two processors. Then there is the Wattage that universally is considered to equal FPS. 4060 has 115W available. A770 has 225W but you also need to take in count the CPU. It doesn't add up just to rely on FPS. I believe there should be another measure to compare for the true performance. Then there is that many of the games are capped for example 200FPS at 1080p. ARC often seems to show half of that while AMD/Nvidia are close to 200FPS. Even that the Wattage would clearly allow same FPS. It feels like the ARC is also hitting the top but the FPS counter doesn't show it. It only shows half. Could this be one vs two processors and the counter only sees one or something like that? You seem to notice this more when you go up on resolution. I think there is lot more we should know.

[@shannonrhoads7099]

I am using an A770 LE I got used, and I have had no major issues, but I was a late adopter. I may be an outlier. I will point out that I had some odd graphics glitches in decade-old titles like Champions Online, Neverwinter Online and Star Trek Online - all coincidentally from the same studio using the same engine as I understand it and possibly based on DX9 or a DX9to11 kludge already. Minor settings changes corrected these issues, since the card defaulted to its max settings caused antialiasing and brightness issues in these old games. The even older City of Heroes and Earth & Beyond Emulator work just fine, for reasons I can't identify. Talk about niche cases, though! For me, it's been more than adequate, and solid enough that I am looking carefully at the Battlemage cards as well as nVidia and AMD offerings for my next build. Of course, since I have a reasonably solid system as is, I might just skip a couple upgrade cycles and see what is happening and if Intel gets to the Celestial/Druid cards with this level of progress. Now, *that* will be interesting to see...

[@osman92_66]

How is the performance of this card in directx 9,10 and 11 games? Have they completely solved the old game problems or is there still time for the problem to be solved?  Geri Bildirim Kullanıcıların yaptığı

[@shannonrhoads7099]

It is doing well in these older games. There was a brief glitch in character creation in Neverwinter and STO where rotating the character didn't move the feet and the character model would corkscrew into modern art. That was fixed. 😊

[@osman92_66]

So, is it completely fixed or is there still a need for time to fix Directx 9 games completely? If I buy this card, do I have to wait for the update or can I play all Directx 9 games without any problems?

[@shannonrhoads7099]

@@osman92_66 I can't vouch for all DirectX 9 through 11 games, but *most* should work fine. I simply don't have all such games to test.

[@mariolis]

In my country the A770 16GB is 30€ more expensive than the 4060 , but as a 1440p@165hz monitor owner , i cant consider any 8gb card as an option , which also rules out the 7600 non-XT , which costs 30€ less than the 4060 itself Also , for personal/moral reasons , I am unwilling to buy Nvidia at all for my next GPU purchase , only considering Intel and AMD options , all my previous gpu purchases were nvidia as they were the best VFM at the time when I made them (750ti in 2014 and 1660ti in 2019) but now I see the increasing monopoly nvidia enjoys and the close-source nature of their software as a threat , and so , I want to support the alternatives no matter what But , even if that wasnt the case , Nvidia's lack of VRAM would be a turn-off regardless

[@oscarvz841]

omg I think the same as you, I recently bought a 2k 165 hz monitor and my gtx 1660 super is suffering the same as me with 30 fps with current games, when you choose a graphics card let me know and maybe a small review, greetings xd

[@mariolis]

@@oscarvz841 Hey, so , I realised that I still play lots of DX9 & DX11 games , which also rules out Intel ... so AMD is my only realistic option now... still not sure which card to buy yet...

[@oscarvz841]

@@mariolis hey I was also thinking about technologies like dlss or fsr, (I think fsr is free and you can apply it with any graphics card) but I also play old games, so I will start looking for an AMD graphics card thanks for the info

[@vinilzord1]

​@@mariolisdxvk is the solution you need.

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 i like it for an extra pc in the house, i was thinking of that blue card and throw it in a Blue Sky Two Case

[@davidpradosdelucas]

Honestly, when Intel Arc A770 matures with the drivers, it will surpass the RTX 3060 Ti, and let's hope that the Intel Arc A770 16GB graphics card will pull GTA VI when it comes out in 2026, it will pull it high at 60 fps

[@walllec]

*30fps medium 1080p

[@Miley_00]

I just built two cheap am5 builds with 7500f 32gb 6000mhz and a770 and am super happy with the performance and betting on it doing better 2025+ 🤙

[@Grandmaster-Kush]

It's a gamble but it has potential to be a great card when matured, i've gambled on worse odds before and won

[@nicojar]

It already surpasses the RTX 3060ti. It also surpasses the 3070. It's on par with the 4060. If you're gaming in 1080p or 1440p, the A770-16Gb is a fantastic GPU, at 300$ you can't beat that. 16GB of VRAM... most good games need more VRAM, not more FPS (you don't play at a competitive level, and you wouldn't make the difference between 102FPS and 116FPS, so this kind of metrics is absurdly irrelevant - what you want is smooth, cheap and reliable, with tons of VRAM for your textures, which the A770 provides, and certainly not Nvidia at this pricetag)...

[@Feyolen]

its interesting that as time goes on, intel could be in the GPU game once the software support is there

[@ClappOnUpp]

I just watched a video of yours from 2 years ago. I think the reason you're not blowing up in views is because (just being honest) the production quality like your microphone. Honestly though, your mic does sound like a toaster with two coat hangers connected to wires through a wall

[@ProceuTech]

I mean it’s definitely valid!

[@twocatsyelling723]

"sound like a toaster with two coat hangers connected to wires through a wall" - that's oddly specific lol.

[@LeGoooze]

I have a 6700 XT which I love and performs very well at 1080p. However if I had more disposable income and the Arc weren't as expensive as they are here I would like to have an A770 and tinker with it. Intel indeed make something great with the Alchemist architecture and it shows that increasing resolution does not halve the framerate like on other cards. I still Intel needs to iron out some issues on their drivers, but I believe Arc Alchemist will age like fine wine as long as Intel doesn't pull the plug.

[@Saabjock]

You are right. The cards despite having lower fps in many games, are much smoother. I haven't had any stuttering...in any title to date. Most of my simracing titles are from 2012 and 2013...so early DX.

[@osman92_66]

​@@Saabjockdirectx 9,10,11 May I know how is the gaming performance and when did arc 770 get the last driver update and what is the resolution of your monitor?

[@Saabjock]

@@osman92_66 DX9c for Automobilista, DX11 for Assetto Corsa, Automobilista 2 and Rfactor2. Monitor resolution is 1920x1080@144Hz. VR is via HP Reverb G2 with resolution at 2160 x 2160 @ 90Hz per eye. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iouTnaysfdlqabM

[@dangleroot388]

Just ordered one

[@wellallnasib]

More competition = More innovation = Lower prices. It would be funny if NVIDIA starts to make CPU. Then you will be able to fully go RED, GREEN & BLUE.

[@ProceuTech]

When someone figures out how to do AI cheaply and efficiently, it will be game over for using GPGPU for everything

[@GrafStorm]

I decided to get the Sp[arkle A770 Titan OC. Why? Because I want to build a system using w/AMD R7-5800x3d for video capture and edit, etc. Also game perhaps, but this is my experiment, I remember supporting the AMD R 5700xt gpu, saying, the drivers will improve, AMD can't jump off this "flagship" they have hyped. I was correct, run 6800xt's and 7900xt on systems. I am thinking positive regarding the strengths of t;he A770 and the understanding that the drivers will improve resulting in perhaps surprises.

[@euarevaloarias8413]

I wonder what you can tell me about using this card with graphic design programs such as 3d studio max, Maya, autocad, photoshop and making architectural renders?

[@shourav3443]

Here in bd, arc a770 is the cheapest option where rx 6600 is about 330 $ and 7600 is 345 $ and arc a770 is 340$ . Noto to mention the goat cards 3060 is 450$, 4060 is 440$ and 3060 ti and 4060 ti is above 500$ .so i was kind of force to get arc A770 😢

[@shiyamkhaledchowdhury6516]

How is your experience? Should I get used 6700xt or Arc a770?

[@Zeno_Evil]

Do you have a methodology for optimizing the settings when installing a new card? Do you try to match published performance bench marks? I'd like to see how you would "tune" your system. Finally, does broccholi make your guinea pig farts smell bad?

[@darkmolo]

helpful because im using 1080p as its the highest my monitor can go

[@TheOakRoom]

It's clear that it's hard to disrupt when the software is written for graphics purposes - games, design software, video editeing, you name it. this is exactly why as Intel's driver team work with the industries and in return, the performance increases accordingly. We need Intel to do well here as consumers as while AMD is still punching up, NVIDIA needs to be made to care and kept honest by good and innovative competition!

[@ahsaft]

i dont think its a fair comparison even when 4060 and a770 are about same price, a770 has about double its power draw..

[@desktopstu4145]

Ive got the Acer 16gb card version, its got a weird blower and pass through fan set up. Works great and I only paid £170 for it, but its not particularly quiet when pushed. It does have a zero fan spin setting though when not being heavily utilised which is really handy. I onl really play World of Tanks and its great on that.

[@RetroAlex125]

Wait where can i find one for that price? That is an absolute steal, because i can only find one for £300

[@desktopstu4145]

Mine was via Facebook marketplace. I was just lucky I guess. I’m very impressed with it overall.

[@EnriquezWicked]

i have this exact card and play lots of fortnite. i play on the lowest settings at 1440p and get about 120 fps give or take. doesnt hinder my gameplay. i feel like intel is coming a long way and im pretty excited to see what they can do.

[@ProceuTech]

It’s def a great card if you know how to optimize for it and utilize its strengths!

[@Michi-go5xi]

I'm building a PC for a GNU/Linux workstation and I plan on getting an A750 or rx6600 :) Whichever performs the most decently on recent kernels

[@bibibibibibeeep5516]

Should I buy arc 770?

[@HiddenAdept]

Looking forward to trying out BMG-10 when it drops by June.

[@yevnal3609]

yeah that is not happening

[@minizamorak]

currently the cheapet price u can get a A770 is £230 in the uk WHICH IS INSANE GRAB IT NOW

[@ProceuTech]

Dang, a steal af

[@Ornal64]

Got mine Arc a770 Acer Bifrost used for £180 and gonna pair it with i7 11700K, 32GB 4600mhz RAM on MSI MAG B560i motherboard + storage and psu I’ve got used for £345. Full Intel build 💪

[@duncasorinel4703]

Is good for use this video card? For play Helldiver 2?

[@ProceuTech]

It runs fine, but honestly if you’re looking to spend around $300, the Rx 6700xt would provide a much smoother and higher refresh rate experience!

[@nicojar]

@@ProceuTech yeah sure 12GB VRAM vs 16GB VRAM.... and A770 doesn't only provide more vram, but also better performance on ray tracing. As for refresh rate, they're on par. Definitely go intel. The market needs more competition and the A770 is a fantastic bang for the buck.

[@robertforrest9860]

Do you know this card perfoms with WOW Dragonflight?

[@maverickwolf4980]

intel's chipset is enough to compete against the 4080. All they have to do is make the plugins work as they should

[@yugdesiral]

is the a770 a good investment for the future? i'm thinking about putting together a pc for my son that will last him a while. i'm thinking with future driver updates the card might improve over time more than a 4060, but I'd like to see what other think about that.

[@ProceuTech]

From my perspective, that of a tech enthusiast, it is definitely an investment for the future out of curiosity. If you’re building a computer to use everyday as your daily driver and you’re expecting it to work no questions asked, then an Nvidia or AMD card is probably the better option.

[@yugdesiral]

@@ProceuTech i'm running a 4070 ti super 14700 for my main rig, just replaced my old 980ti machine after 8 years. i'm looking to build my son a computer which he will mainly use to play minecraft. i'm hoping he might get some nice ray tracing and 165 fps at 1440p with the arc a770.

[@ProceuTech]

@yugdesiral the A770 probably wouldn’t provide that consistently unfortunately… :(

[@yugdesiral]

@@ProceuTech from what i've seen in some benchmarks it should get close enough. honestly anything over 80fps would be great.

[@axemastersinc3269]

Thank you. Arc is not ready...

[@misterPAINMAKER]

Sparkle? wtf where is msi , asus, gigabyte?

[@Offical_Ghost_Rider]

Intel hasn't been in the market for long so until they catch up to Nvidia and AMD for performance which Nvidia and AMD have had decades of experience and Intel haven't had time to do anything like optimising etc before people review bombed them but I believe they have a good chance in the future for 1440p and even 4k

[@coryhunnicutt123187]

Don’t understand why we don’t just have a few gpu total a 1080 card for 299 a 1440p card for 549 and a 4k card for 799

[@misterPAINMAKER]

@@coryhunnicutt123187 Maybe i want a 500hz 1080p monitor with a RTX 4090. Everyone plays at whatever resolution they want. Monitors tend to go obselete after 10 years so most gamers have the 1080p monitor they is good enough

[@josezan4290]

there is asrock

[@djmccullough9233]

would loved to have seen AI performance tested. Far better cards exist for gaming at this price point, but i think AI might be the ARC's superpower. Maybe. I dont know. I cant find any updated performance on it.

[@globaltrading7407]

Need L2 cach might be 48 mb or more.

[@chibonchibon3967]

Outside US, the card price is shit , a complete shit 😂

[@PixelatedWolf2077]

No not really. Its pretty good with frame pacing even if it's weaker in overall frames.

[@VanceLP]

True, here in Brazil the 16GB VRAM version of the Intel Arc A770 costs around 2,379.99 reais. Depending on the promotion and with 200 reais more, the 4060 ti comes with more performance than the a770.

[@josezan4290]

​@@VanceLPconsegui a minha por 1500, preçasso na de 16giga

[@LordSamuelJ]

I would rather drown in a pool of snot than buy an nvidia card

[@ProceuTech]

Oddly specific, but I’m here for the enthusiasm!

[@larrytaylor2692]

I heard you really need to have an Intel cpu for their gpus to work well

[@tmbardsen88]

No, but motherboard need Rebar support

[@Lazarosaliths]

A770 is more expensive and slower than rx 6700xt, Rx 7600 & rx 6700(10gb) are cheaper at the same performance

[@yugdesiral]

for now.. if they ever get their drivers together, which they seem to be doing now, the arc will surpass a lot of cards that are currently better.

[@Sushii96]

A770 16gb spec itself is almost on par with the 4070. And already smoke those for productivity. The only thing that hold the gpu now is the driver , hope intel will improve the driver more to maximize the gpu in gaming.

[@Wyrfal]

What about VR? Still not compatible with oculus quest 2?

[@ProceuTech]

Compatibility is slowly coming to different games. Haven’t used it seriously for that use case, but in a year or two things will probably be very usable!

[@Wyrfal]

Well.. then i will buy rx 6600 but thanks for fast response

[@ProceuTech]

@Wyrfal makes sense!

[@Sourav_Sadhukhan]

Will this GPU work good for 360 degree video editing?

[@ProceuTech]

With the 16GB of VRAM, it will definitely be able to load a lot of files! What specific program were you utilizing?

[@Sourav_Sadhukhan]

@@ProceuTech Adobe Premier Pro, Insta 360 desktop editor & videoproc vlogger. Along with some sound editors like wavepad

[@ProceuTech]

@Sourav_Sadhukhan premier pro is accelerated by Arc cards, however I’m not sure about the other apps you mentioned. Let me run some tests and get back to you.

[@GabsGabsen]

do something about your audio man. I can smell your breath

[@Elvento]

лучшая карта для 2к, с запасом на будущее, плюс у ее много тензорных ядер, которые будут полезны для ИИ, и любого использования ИИ в играх, а оно случится в ближайшее время

[@TheAINoobxoxo]

In short yes In long no

[@shahriarshakil9797]

Sir... Does ARC A770 support video Ai FPS enhancement software? (Like : Flowframes / FrameGUI)

[@Angry_Old_Man_In_Pain]

I guess in an ad for money you can say they are fine but on the GPU chart they are pretty far UNDER the 3060 in performance and not near being equal. The 16 gig version is minimally better, so little that the two dots on the chart are right on top of each other.

[@josezan4290]

the arc a770 nowadays wins against the 3060 in everything besides starfield or gta V