It's Doom, but with 100% more numbers popping out of enemies when you shoot them, also recoil, also pretty goddamn difficult. PRODOOMER, THE DOOM MOD THAT HAS IT ALL. PRODOOMER www.moddb.com/m...
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@planescaped5 жыл бұрын
Talk about self-sabotage. The guy making this mod definitely needed play-testers. Though I hear it's a lot better now than when Icarus covered it.
@stefanm.7344 жыл бұрын
The latest version (v3) is still rated 5/10 on ModDB. It seems that while people appreciate the scope of the mod, the quality of the final product has suffered as a result.
@DanielValenciaCol4 жыл бұрын
@@stefanm.734 There's an special reason for that score? . I would like to play this mod, but Im not sure because the difficulty.
@SgtMjRomero2 жыл бұрын
@@DanielValenciaCol It's mostly due to the fact that some mechanics are subtle, like the stealth, and people weren't ready for the difficulty. The other problem is that of how Icarus made his videos at the time. He posted 1 episode a week, meaning he had to avoid replaying past levels for more cash and XP, which you're expected to do in order to keep up with the difficulty curve. Icarus wasn't able to do that since, again, he's got 6 days before each episode is made. Once you're in the mindset of “it can get 10-20 hours” then you'll find it to be golden. I'm now on a run of New Game Plus saving up for some of the extra powerful NG+ exclusive equipment, like the minigun and black hole launcher.
@mickeymickey99142 жыл бұрын
@@SgtMjRomero is there an easy mode?
@SgtMjRomero2 жыл бұрын
@@mickeymickey9914 yes
@FrozEnbyWolf1508 жыл бұрын
I was having trouble with Lava Moss as well, until I realized what I was doing wrong. This mod has a stealth mechanic, and you're expected to use it. Fists and the crossbow are silent, as are all spells. Most of the enemies in the entry area are facing away from you, and can be picked off one by one so that they don't all swarm you at once. Also, I figured out the best strategy to kill the Spiderdemon666. First, place sandbags and other summons near it, so it gets distracted on those. Then you want to get as close as possible while still behind cover, such as the pillars next to the boss. This will cause the boss to fire its shots into the pillar (if you had tried to keep your distance and hide behind one of the pillars on the edge, this would have allowed the homing shots to spread out and hit you from the sides). Keep the boss on the opposite side of the pillar and shoot its protruding legs with your super shotgun to do the most damage, and it will die pretty quickly. Tested on Badass (Nightmare) and it works better than anything else I tried.
@FrozEnbyWolf1508 жыл бұрын
So yeah, I finished this mod on Badass with 100% completion, and I kind of sort of spoiled it for everyone on the ZDoom thread. If you want to find out how to find everything yourself, do not click on this link, and do not read my post on page 16: forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=36469&sid=2c6f36768aa108c402590548a21b4e3f
@umbaupause7 жыл бұрын
Stealth mechanic. In a Doom mod. But why though?
@Kem1kal137 жыл бұрын
Stealth is for pussies.
@analanus31317 жыл бұрын
+umbaupause Anyone can put what they want in a Doom mod, please don't be a fucking dickehad and say"durr dum is abeeut cheinse and rip teeeeerr dis sux".
@fragrantgingercalamari5 жыл бұрын
>unlockables for playing the game >episode selection hub with inner hubs for selecting levels Is this LEGO Star Wars?
@spaceddronev25555 жыл бұрын
FragrantGingerCalamari Phantasy Star Online
@Voidic3 жыл бұрын
HOLY-
@stetsoncase79703 жыл бұрын
pro tip: you can watch series at Flixzone. I've been using them for watching a lot of movies recently.
@watsoncassius61553 жыл бұрын
@Stetson Case Definitely, I have been watching on Flixzone} for since november myself :)
@westonjaxx72863 жыл бұрын
@Stetson Case definitely, been watching on Flixzone} for months myself :D
@xenokaos19 жыл бұрын
Looks like most of that hub layout is from Phantasy Star Online. The music certainly is anyway.
@ikagura8 жыл бұрын
+xenokaos1 yeah i am happy about that, the only problem is when i search a PS doom mod it shows me phantasy star 3 generation of DOOM
@KOSMOS1701A5 жыл бұрын
and its not horribly compressed either
@robm67265 жыл бұрын
Excited to finally get PSO2 announced for the west :)
@ayrton66275 жыл бұрын
when the video started I was like "Is that Phantasy Star Online music"
@TooLameToDie3 жыл бұрын
I got weird TekWar vibes from it. I agree with the music though.
@PopMusicKiller7 жыл бұрын
There's a new version of PRODOOMER that might be worth a look. One change is the removal of recoil.
@blehh_mae3 жыл бұрын
is it easier though
@tarekmoneimsaid8 жыл бұрын
when a mod is so brutal you have to take a vacation to Disneyland... :D
@007kingifrit5 жыл бұрын
sponsored by disneyland
@ehwazironhide698 жыл бұрын
Not sure if someone has already said this, but this mod seems to have a MASSIVE influence from Phantom Star Online. What gave it away for me was the hub world music and the fact that the different stages/levels have a nasty difficulty spike.
@ikagura8 жыл бұрын
PSO for the win ^^
@katking9574 Жыл бұрын
Phantasy star online. sorry for replying to a7 year old comment, but it was bothering me.
@GameplayandTalk8 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, this mod is absolutely *massive*. I'm a little scared to try it, haha.
@adisappointedfbiagent4497 жыл бұрын
Gameplay and Talk they turned Doom into Destiny
@bappojujubes9816 жыл бұрын
My god I'm downloading it right now, and I'm really excited!
@lordtomlluckrahthegreat90148 жыл бұрын
Man, the beheaded kamikazes from serious sam. The memories.
@KOTYAR07 жыл бұрын
Lord Tomlluckrah the Great AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@urielacosta23297 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH YOURSELF!!! ... OHH OHH
@rayzermaniac52185 жыл бұрын
Prodoom seems like very very close to something i always wanted to make for Doom, an EXP system. Simple mechanics, but no idea how hard it would be to set up. So you start with the basics, each enemy gives EXP when killed, more for stronger enemys. Level up at certain EXP points and say with each level you get 5% more max HP, your weapons cause 5% more damage, max armor increases by 5%, fire rate increases by 1%. Thats the basic levelling mechanics. Then include skills at certain levels. Then you could create certain enemies that would be designed for higher level players. I always thought it would add a lot of depth to Doom but when done right. I 100% agree that Doom is mainly meant for enjoyable monster mashing. Its not fun when you get pit falls, traps, or awkward level design that catches you out in stupid situations.
@ThePageofCups5 жыл бұрын
An example of 'just because you can doesn't mean you should.'
@RarefoilB8 жыл бұрын
Judging by the music and sound effects, I can at least respect this mod for injecting some Sega magic into Doom.
@HezakHQ6 жыл бұрын
the main character is called sonic
@KyosukeShigeru6 жыл бұрын
Phantasy Star Online. :3
@ikagura6 жыл бұрын
And F-zero GX (almost made by Sega)
@megadan4297 жыл бұрын
i giggle every time i hear a sound from Diablo
@cshimp109 жыл бұрын
Because of you I've gotten so many Doom mods and am having SUCH a blast! I will probably stream them, too. (out of respect I won't advertise on your channel ♥)
@ICARUSLIV3S9 жыл бұрын
ChrisSchimpf Remember me if you get super popular! :P
@cshimp109 жыл бұрын
Definitely! Keep up the awesome MOD reviews! :D
@kylefallen82138 жыл бұрын
+ICARUSLIV3S just found your channel, this is great, my childhood just comes flooding back when I watch these video. I wish I could still find my gateway 2000!
@jackiechan39328 жыл бұрын
I am playing p4oject brutality how do I run weapon mods?
@slayerslayer76235 жыл бұрын
.........you just did....
@Xeranxies9 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for introducing this to me, my only gripe is with some of the level designs, they are damn near impossible, specially the ones with the kamikaze zombies or the level with the one hit killing archers, I'm not ashamed to admit that I also used god mode for some levels.
@rayzermaniac52184 жыл бұрын
This sounds like they added so many great features to Doom to add so much depth to it. But the levels seem to be so insanely difficult that it takes away from the overall enjoyability.
@SgtMjRomero Жыл бұрын
Nah, the difficulty was added believing that we'd replay earlier levels before tackling the later levels. It's not a mod meant to be played in a single sitting, rather to be enjoyed over the course of a week or two while you enjoy the time off from work and weekends. Edit: I meant replay the levels when the game is getting too hard to enjoy, or to collect any missed secrets/needed cash for upgrades.
@taylorphillips52038 жыл бұрын
this is the largest doom mod ive ever downloaded; the fricken thing is over 300 MB
@samsonitefanatic43727 жыл бұрын
Taylor Phillips That's three times larger than the new Doom! Holy shit!
@khiemvu86677 жыл бұрын
No it's not. 331 MB is 0.331 of a GB. DOOM 2016 requires at least 45 GB.
@celeste46685 жыл бұрын
@@khiemvu8667 r/wooosh
@ikagura6 жыл бұрын
Even if this mod isn't that good I can salute the ambition the guy made for it... maybe if he had a team for the level and game design it could even become a fully-fledged, solid Doom RPG mod
@Anomaly1884 жыл бұрын
Prodoomer is what happens when you take the micromanagement and progression of tower defense/horde mods and make a single player campaign out of it.
@WillMoon7 жыл бұрын
Some of the enemies are taken from Might and Magic 8, the dudes with the tridents.
@JeanMarceaux4 жыл бұрын
Wtf I need to play it now I love me some Might and Magic
@dbock30819 жыл бұрын
Yes. This is the type of doom mod i love! Leveling, monster types, skills.....it sounds like kyle'sRPG mod. Bit difficult sounding tho
@adirblazkowics77178 жыл бұрын
...I dunno about anyone else, but I can see those pits in the second area of Lava Moss just perfectly fine. It's just less grassy on the floors you can fall through. Hell it's not even just a little less, it's a whole lot less.
@maskedhobo7 жыл бұрын
I fucking love the Phantasy Star Online music. I miss that fucking game.
@dafoex4 жыл бұрын
I like it, there is a lot of strategic thinking required to win, but it looks very much like a numbers game with just how much grinding and leveling you need to do to get upgrades.
@Trauson6 жыл бұрын
Plays doom , super happy about disneyland.... nothing out of the ordinary
@Azf125 жыл бұрын
The map design in this game really needs some work. Most maps are way too large and it's really easy to get lost. Some rooms are so massive and have such a miniscule amount of enemies. They need to do some serious reworking on the levels, because underneath the absolutely labyrinthine level design is the potential to have a really well-made Serious Sam-esque Doom mod. My least favorite map is the rooftops level. The game expects you to do precision tightrope walking in the DOOM ENGINE. No. Just, no.
@powerdude_dk4 жыл бұрын
Mr Icarus... it's NEVER boring when you show a doom mod. Never.
@corvettez06usa6 жыл бұрын
For the endless hours I played PSO over the years...I instantly recognized the music from Pioneer 2 on the hub level.
@comical95877 жыл бұрын
Oh god, after watching your video for 5 minutes, I finally remember that music. It's from Phantasy Star Online...
@perochialjoe6 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you covered Lava Moss. That canopy just dropping you into insta-death lava was bullshit. I nearly rage-quit the mod as well because of it. I got really damn fast at saving in that level that's for sure. There is a lot of great stuff with this mod, but honestly the level design ruins it. So much switch hunting. And like you said, it's the bad kind. There have been so many instances where I have run all around a level after hitting a switch just trying to find out what the hell it did.
@ps4shotsgaming5285 жыл бұрын
Thanks for shedding light on this little gem, Only just got around to playing it and really enjoying it so far.
@KashKey-8 жыл бұрын
... This is based off of Phantasy Star Online... Sweet.
@Lowen2644 жыл бұрын
I love the Diablo II noises. Potions and the Ents' voices.
@straytakermusic5 жыл бұрын
That oldschool PSO music gave me a feel :(.
@kethemine82214 жыл бұрын
this is the reason i belive in dagon.. he showed me 009 sound system when i wanted to hear it so badly again.. he showed me this awesome mod!
@HexenStar2 жыл бұрын
There is a concept such as "battle design", which appears to elude a lot of mod creators. Calculating which enemy comes from where, when, why, what it is going to do, which lines of crossfire, which ambush, where, allow or not an escape route, cover, enemy chaining, enemy combinations, reinforcements, which weapons are available, etc. A master-class on this subject was demonstrated long ago in a game known across the galaxy as "Quake II" :-) Particularly, its mission packs. Then, any successful battle design is ought to have a sound, beatable strategy (reliant first of all on brains, and only then on fingers), a strategy which should be repeatedly tested - to confirm that it produces consistent victories with an average/average+ skill, as in - without having trained for a month to deliver the said results. Finally, add a margin of error: different elements which may offset the said strategy (as in: go wrong), even if you know what it is and how to win. That usually has to do with enemy AI and the tactical options that the designer has provided for the opposition VS how much the player is powered. Add difficulty levels by increasing the chance(!) for things to go wrong (as opposed to just hitscanners killing the player quicker), or increasing the dependence on precision and/or timing, less forgiving enemies, fewer chances to recover upon mistakes, - etc. This is actually much harder to implement than it sounds. Because making a cheap killbox is easy, - and is of interest to none, as there always(!) are plenty of more competent games in the field: as in things that compete for a player's time and/or commitment. Lastly, make all difficulty levels present, so that each player chooses a personal comfortable preference. Unless opting for an averaged setting. Then again, there is a simpler approach: just copy-paste every enemy x30 in a timed sequence, so that their respawns overlap. Voila, instant Serious Sam.
This mod is autistically hard, and its one of my favourite video game mods. Satisfaction you get from beating it without godmode is insane, and this mod has a lot of character, great soundtrack and level design that just keeps you going. Overall its just pretty fucking astounding. If you can beat that hellish archer forest shitshow level, then you can officially call yourself a PRODOOMER.
@TheAxelay7 жыл бұрын
Commitment DOOM!!?! Still this has a ton of stuff to it and it is innovative!
@RobertSeeJen7 жыл бұрын
Gotta love that Phantasy Star Online music
@Lazorincofficial7 жыл бұрын
After listening to the stream of this, it's easy to hear the disdain in his voice when he's talking about this shitshow.
@DustedPandemonic9 жыл бұрын
Will you be reviewing horror mods such as Ghoul's Forest/Ghoul's World, or perhaps the more atmospheric Unloved?
@ICARUSLIV3S9 жыл бұрын
DustedEnderman I'm sure i'll get around to them sooner or later :D
@viewtifuljoe44129 жыл бұрын
ICARUSLIV3S It is creepy....Good luck with that ^_^.
@ultorismaximus5 жыл бұрын
i can tell how much rage you have loaded and want to cuss the hell out of it but you cease yourself because it's way too much of a hardwork in this mod and you may get burnt for doing so lmao. respect for that anger control :P
@JamBadguy7 жыл бұрын
could you find a wad similar to this without the insane difficulty?
@Idk-how-to-paint8 жыл бұрын
that's totally the pso hub level music in the hub....
@EMDakka8 жыл бұрын
I just finished this, and while the recoil is annoying, this mod is VERY hard, and VERY good.
@JeanMarceaux5 жыл бұрын
The guys that "should be in Avatar or fighting Auqaman" are lifted Triton sprites from Might and Magic 8.
@thatoneguy64694 жыл бұрын
4 years later I can sniff the anger
@Combine_Kegan9 жыл бұрын
Ugh, I see it still has that retarded hurt overlay. This mod is such a damn mess.
@HalcyonicFalcon9 жыл бұрын
***** you can turn it off in the options
@dapapeyu16 жыл бұрын
tried v3, by a certain point in episode 2 i gave up on trying to play legitimately because the mod thinks challenge means throwing 10 kamikazes at me with every opened door or sometimes every 5 footsteps
@silpharion5 жыл бұрын
Watching this video after his live in twitch, forcing his way through to the end of that mod. I'm pretty sure Icarus would be WAY more savage with this mod and just dont recomend it in any way possible XD
@RagnarokiaNG5 жыл бұрын
All those white line attacks from the Spider Demon boss reminds me of Diablo 2 Mephisto lightning spam. Not sure which is worse.
@HQ_Default8 жыл бұрын
Dark Souls with guns.
@feddyvonwigglestein34815 жыл бұрын
The super shotgun has the firing sound of Day of Defeat's Springfield rifle for some reason. Definitely not a 'shotgun-y' sound.
@Spaztron645 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the Phantasy Star Online inspirations.
@AbyssmalAngel8 жыл бұрын
12:52 That's not a Spider Master Mind, that is the muthafuckin' Primagen!
@aussj4link6 жыл бұрын
The hud takes up too much of the screen.
@CHMernerner5 жыл бұрын
Quake 3 textures never gets old
@thefacebiters5 жыл бұрын
I think it's all that and a bag of chips.
@kyanoang3l0_old Жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd see Sonic 06's ranking screen or get Phantasy Star Online vibes in a Doom mod. The dev's a Sega fan.
@figgymcsquiggins44875 жыл бұрын
DOOM is the only game where adding a fuckton of menus is actually pretty cool.
@syrouwp6868 жыл бұрын
that little red monster in the beastiary is the monster from the ps1 FPS P'Oed
@Holydude5 жыл бұрын
That phantasy star online music was so nostalgic
@cicatrixnubbins44967 жыл бұрын
Why is there the crimson omen from gears of war when you die? It's really cool don't get me wrong but what
@ZoMbIEx23x8 жыл бұрын
It does look like something someone is putting on their resume.
@Runehorn9 жыл бұрын
Hope you have a great time at Disney!
@OACustom5 жыл бұрын
i actually like that the firearms ave realistic recoil.
@arkhotheptheinsane50533 жыл бұрын
I'm actually really glad you've shown me this mod, I haven't been this impressed with a mod since the Wrath of Cronos for Hexen, challenging but lots of fun and replayability that being said, I fucking hate the suicide bombers
@edurranzallmohr86943 жыл бұрын
How'd you get it to run? Everytime I try to load it, Doom2 just runs
@anchor-cross7 жыл бұрын
Prodoomer V3 is already out: www.moddb.com/mods/prodoomer-v3/downloads/prodoomer-v3
@aceacer22319 жыл бұрын
This mod is for hardcore Doomer. I think you did an accurate description of the mod. Are you playing the v1 or the new v2? A new version of this mod have been released last week with lots of improvements. If you played the old one you might want to give a try with the new version. It has lots of improvements.
@JamBadguy7 жыл бұрын
The new version of the mod fixes some of the problems like recoil you should check it out
@StServal5 жыл бұрын
I recently tried this mod, and I was completely sucked in. I've spent more time on prodoomer than I'm willing to admit. I absolutely love the RPG - element and upgradable stuff. If you use all the things, skills and allies at your disposal, you can unleash all kinds of hell and literally wreck your enemies, even bosses. Some of the music is ripped straight from old favorite games of mine, like Pso Online, Metroid Prime and F-Zero GX, and i love it! That being said, there are some maps I look up where to find all the stuff, because I don't ever want to play them again. Lava moss is such an example. This mod has some downright sadistic platform - elements and other things which just seem unfair, and sadly detracts from much of the fun. I'm gonna go play more though! :D
@DTSephiroth4 жыл бұрын
Phantasy Star Online feel and music in the hub.
@HimzoKevric7 жыл бұрын
The difficulty looks awesome. Masochism for life!
@coowhip37058 жыл бұрын
Prodoomer with russian overkill (That will make it fair) ;)
@Zelousmarineinspace8 жыл бұрын
Coo Whip I am going to do a Let's Play of that. It will be. In. Sane.
@cobaltis4 жыл бұрын
@@Zelousmarineinspace So, did you do it?
@Zelousmarineinspace4 жыл бұрын
@@cobaltis Indeed I did, and It crashed several times, but was amazing
@MrEmptyapathy8 жыл бұрын
doom + dark souls = prodoomer
@Mahaveez7 жыл бұрын
I think you're biased because you have to get through many mods for a living, and this one demands your full attention.
@migueeeelet7 жыл бұрын
lol, true
@ultorismaximus5 жыл бұрын
nah, he probably just ragequit for more than a few times lol. you can tell by his voice while talking about recommending it
@sgtmajorkiwi4 жыл бұрын
*_HIS VOICE IS SO FUCKING HIGH PITCHED OMG HE'S YOUNG ICARUS!_* :)
@jeremybalogh24309 жыл бұрын
I love your videos man keep it up (:
@samsonitefanatic43727 жыл бұрын
You were playing the lava moss level wrong. The mod has a stealth mechanic you are supposed to use.
@that1guy823 жыл бұрын
"I wanna like it cuz u can tell they put a lot of time into it" I can spend an hour taking a shit too, but did i do as good a job as the guy shitting for 5 mins?
@coziestexpert71646 жыл бұрын
Can someone help me, I cant seem to get it working, im using gzdoom, but when i drag it to gzdoom like all other mods, it just comes up with the base game. Anyone know and special instructions that i missed? Or does it just not work?
@medicbag27187 жыл бұрын
I disagree with your opinion on the n64. While I do agree that they look plasticine, I believe that it added to the atmosphere to have more 3D looking enemy's. But I still agree with you on the spider mastermind. Blegh
@Rippingcartar8 жыл бұрын
Dat gears of war death screen
@wariorox8 жыл бұрын
Love the videos! Entertaining as Hell. Subscribed!
@MrSerkanSaral5 жыл бұрын
I tried playing this game in GZDoom, but for some reason I cannot pick up any weapons except the pistol, both shotguns, the uzi, and the rocket launcher. Why though?
@cameron53675 жыл бұрын
same
@MrSerkanSaral5 жыл бұрын
@@cameron5367 Okay, I have found out why this happens. I have contacted the e-mail of the maker of the Prodoomer mod and asked them the problem. Apparently the Zscript has been changed in the latest versions of GZDoom, which causes the pk3 file to be unstable. It causes most doors to never open, half of the weapons unuseable and fills all maps with diamond shaped "!" to indicate an error. Best way to fix this problem is using an earlier version of GZDoom. I am using 3.5.1, and this mod is incredible. I'm loving it.
@cameron53675 жыл бұрын
@@MrSerkanSaral i got so fucking pissed at the game nocliped multiple times i just thought the game was horribly made thanks anyway this can help me enjoy the game
@MrSerkanSaral5 жыл бұрын
@@cameron5367 Wait,how do you think that the mod is horribly made if you watched the video here?
@cameron53675 жыл бұрын
@@MrSerkanSaral i didn't watch the video much i just looked for someone with the same problems
@sozaj3 жыл бұрын
Phantasy Star Online music. I dig it.
@khaorix26677 жыл бұрын
Iget my arse kicked by the first ever enemy. It's a cyberdemon.
@KingofArlia7 жыл бұрын
How do you open the skill menu? I'm playing v2, and I assume it's the same case.
@mikkotbm7 жыл бұрын
Check the options and bind a key mate :D!
@KingofArlia7 жыл бұрын
I already figured that out. Now, unfortunately, my game, for some reason, has some sort of invisible walls on bridges. And I just reached Lava Moss, I think it's called (1-4).
@lord_razur6 жыл бұрын
I heard explosion sounds from Battlefield 1942 and Vietnam, nostalgia nuke activated.
@Omnipotent20138 жыл бұрын
I know I've heard that sound before and it took me a second but It's from Phantasy Star Online on the Dreamcast. They might've used it again in PSO2 or Universe. The memories! :D
@dragonoftheseas8 жыл бұрын
this has the music and layout from phantasy star online
@MegaOwner1016 жыл бұрын
What's the song in the background of the spider boss fight?
@iisadragon6 жыл бұрын
Love the mod just for the Serious Sam kamikazes
@Camperoftehintrowebz8 жыл бұрын
Doom and relaxing are not supposed to be in the same sentence! Dammit!
@Kenar.E8 жыл бұрын
idk why i can't run it with gzdoom. there happear all other wads but this one.
@Arsonation7 жыл бұрын
you may need zdoom or zandronium its best to have all three due to some mods run with certain ones
@OfficialREVENGEMusic8 жыл бұрын
i'd love to see a deadspace mod.
@MemeLordCthulhu6 жыл бұрын
REVENGE me too
@mage0killer6 жыл бұрын
So is the Nightwish track in the game or added by you?
@bobdylan68288 жыл бұрын
What doom do you get and use the mods for and where do you get the mods from?! :-/
@DaBozGaming9 жыл бұрын
im getting this so can you give me the controls for the mod and plus any tips