Product Announcement: WAV PRO Vanes | A More Forgiving Vane for Finger Shooters

[@scottomatic4621]

The biggest thing I admire and like with Jake is his sincerity. You KNOW when you come get info from this guy it's legit, and it's not some ponzy scheme to try and sucker some money outa you. You are much appreciated Jake. Thank you so much for everything. I only have been shooting now for about 6 months and won my first 50m barebow tourney. I appreciate everything very much.

[@sjohn_8627]

Have you thought about attaching 3 of the vanes to some kind of clear tubing? Then you can just dip it hot water to fletch it. I haven’t tried these yet but I do know trad vanes are tough to fletch.

[@dcsensui]

I just ordered a set of these today from your website, now that I decided to try Olympic-style archery. Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge, Jake!

[@thephoenicianarcher5267]

Congratulations brother

[@cruzbuddha]

Order placed! I've been looking forward to these for a while now. Seems like a really good vane for barebow at the field range.

[@arturasnx7575]

An idea for a video: Majority of info available online gravitates to hihger poundage bows and longer ranges. But most recreational shooters does not even have access to 18m range (in my case, barely scraping 15m with decent backstop). How range limitation afects gear selection priorities? Technique tips? Fun game / practice drill sugestions? Anythin that improve the ods of shooting more often and gaining skills :D Thanks

[@spaghettibadger647]

Personally i shoot something like 90% of my arrows at short range (less than 5 meters) just building fitness and muscle memory. The arrows don't know how far they are going

[@Brainhoneywalker]

Congratulations, Jake!!! I just bought a set. I’m really excited to use them. The people who these will work for are children, women, seniors (men and women), people (men and women) who have physical challenges that limit their draw weight. Hope you have some red, hot pink, and orange in your next colors. You can really spot those well in the … you know … the grass. At least I know where to look now. Thank you for all your information!

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

They work excellent for all levels in my opinion.

[@anndylbtw64]

I received my first packet of your vanes from Australia this afternoon. Can’t wait to try them with my Easton Superdrive Micro.

[@ssjronin3972]

What did you think of them?

[@ryanhill7318]

Great Vanes Jake. I've been looking for a vane for Indoor! Tired of feathers. I'm going to pick these up

[@mikasavola5501]

I’ll try them if you release Sunset Gold color!

[@Matt__just_a_guy]

awesome you are getting your own lines of gear!! they look great :) eagerly awaiting a UK supplier.

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Quicks will be carrying them for sure.

[@Matt__just_a_guy]

@@JakeKaminskiArchery thats awesome. They are only 25 mins from my house :D and certainly one of the best online retailers we have for gear in the UK.

[@valyau2002]

When they are in stock in Australia I'll definitely give them a go Jake. The shipping to here is just killer at the moment unfortunately.

[@lordcarnorjax8599]

Wonder if Alec Potts at Eliza Archery would be keen to get some in and also to test them himself.

[@NPC-fl3gq]

Maybe Steven Han at archery supplies would be interested!? He regularly gets shipping containers from the US anyway. If you see this Jake, give it a try - Steve is a wholesaler as well who provides stock to ~20 other archery stores in Australia.

[@Gerryjournal]

My fletches arrived 2 days ago, thanks. Postage to Australia is a killer and took a month. Arrows all fletches and ready today, tested at the range, tuned up and happy with the results. Well worth buying

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Thanks for the feedback! Glad they arrived safe. Be sure to check out Archery Lenses (links in the description) for an AUS company selling the vanes. Also, please drop by my website and leave a review for the vanes if you wouldn’t mind!

[@chemicalmisery]

Just ordered a pack from Quicks, looking forward to see how they work.

[@diegoarcoefrecce3910]

CONGRATS JAKE FOR THE NEW VANES!!! I JUST NEED AN ANSWER..... ARE THOSE ONLY FOR RIGHT HANDED OR LEFT HANDED AS WELL?? THANKS

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

They are for both, universal.

[@diegoarcoefrecce3910]

@@JakeKaminskiArchery THANK YOU SO MUCH! I WILL ORDER SOME =)

[@Carnax6969]

Heya, Jake. I've recently started fletching my own arrows, I've ordered your vanes, and tested them at a small offset. My goodness, my groupings improved by a large amount. I'm a beginner who started a little over a year and a half ago, I've got Easton ACCs, and since using your vanes I've managed to complete my progression shoots at 40, 50, and 60 yards by a big margin. Just in time as outdoor season is nearly over. I'm thinking of buying either a set of XX75 Platinum Plus or X7 for indoors and would love to see how these vanes perform indoors. I'm also going to test 3-4" vanes too.

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Glad to hear they work well for you!

[@Carnax6969]

@@JakeKaminskiArchery Oh, absolutely. I've also put these on my dad and sister's arrows, and they've also noticed better performance and groupings with their shots too.

[@boblarsen5385]

I hope you have a Thailand distributor for these? Looking forward to getting these.

[@clij5202]

Ordered … to Japan. I have a question though: need to be helical or can be simple offset ? My simple jig can’t do helical; straight only. Would be on x10 for my recurve. As for colors for next versions: black and red please to fit my color scheme.

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Offset can work. I just prefer helical.

[@mathiashammar1]

Good move Jake. You took the popular profile of AAE pro Max vane and used WAV material instead. dropping the weigh from 5 grains to 2 grains. For intermediate archer shooting 10-30m its perfect. Low profile vanes struggle to steer the arrows at shorter distance. Low profile only comes into its own at +50m or windy conditions. Only reson i haven't used Max pro Vanes is the weight :D instead of 15grains we have 6 grains with your new vanes.

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

I use the vanes exclusively at 70m and prefer it over smaller vanes.

[@mathiashammar1]

13:40 you mention running helical. I tested mini blazer vanes for 50m . And vindy days it would fly more like 70degrees . And in strong gusts 60 degree. Not 90 degree straight. But mini blazers have alot stiffer vane material. So it was causing to much drift. But I'm shooting 250-270grain with 90 grain point. not an X10 with 120+ grain point and total weight 380-400 grain. That effects alot down range.

[@mathiashammar1]

So for future testing for your vanes would be to run test arrows in around 300 grain weight in comparison to X10 weights.

[@daveeagling9372]

Like me many archers in the Uk are switching to barebow which is a lot of fun and extremely addictive. I hope Quicks take them on and look forward to trying them out.

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

They said they are going to place an order.

[@Redsnake7819]

Congratulations on the product launch. Loved your honesty on what it can and cannot do. Does it perfom excellent for X10s at 42lbs and 70m outdoors?

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Yes for sure. I love them at upwards of 50 lbs and should work well, at far lower weights into the 20s

[@Redsnake7819]

@@JakeKaminskiArchery Thank you.... ordering one now.

[@kajala11]

Hey Jake! Congrats! Can you list the package quantity with the product description in your store? 🥰

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Its a 50 pack. Will do!

[@KentRodgman]

are there any distributors in Canada? Would love to try some of these on some new VAP's I just picked up but the shipping is double the price of the vanes in most places I look....

[@brendan4ever]

I loved the old wav vanes but the reason I stopped shooting them is when you had to remove/replace them bits of the carbon from the X10 came off as well.

[@nightranch6218]

Hello Jake. I remember seeing a moment in another video when you mentioned that the WAV pro can be used on a trad bow off the shelf. I couldn’t find that video anymore and just wanted to confirm that before placing my order.

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Because the vane is the same material and thickness as the trad vane and you are supposed to be able to shoot them off the shelf, you should be able to do the same with the WAV pros. I say supposed to as I have no first hand experience with this (yet)

[@nightranch6218]

@@JakeKaminskiArchery great! Just bought two packs. BTW can you do a video on how point weights affect an arrow’s tune? How much increase in point grains need to be compensated by an arrow one step stiffer than the charts suggestion? There is so little info and a lot of guess work especially for us trad users who experiment with unusual point weights and heavy broadheads. Thanks!

[@mathiashammar1]

I'm currently running easton titeflight parabolic. 1.75" and .38" high. 3 grains. a bit better steering then vanetec fita at shorter distances. Your new vane will be a serious contender with basicly a smidge higher profile then parabolic tite flight.

[@MrChinkman37]

I absolutely want some of these in black and blue when they are available.

[@thehadfieldparadox]

Congratulations. Vanes look great. Really hope it works out 👍😁

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Thank you

[@benjaminauza2909]

Want these!

[@regularguycreative]

Installed my vanes yesterday. Was surprised how much these changed the dynamic spine of my arrows...but after switching to a lighter point my arrows appear to be flying true!

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

What vanes were you using before?

[@regularguycreative]

@@JakeKaminskiArchery Blazers. Didn't know enough to know that they weren't the best choice for recurve until deep diving through your channel. Was about to switch to spin wings, but decided to give these a go instead. So far, so good.

[@markbraham5439]

Sounds very promising, looking forward to when Quicks get them in the UK. Flo-orange next, or I might just stain the whites!

[@lupusverdi]

Interested in red/purple once they become available. Currently using Brady spidervanes

[@remi3479]

It looks like a max hunter and trad vane love child. Sounds good.

[@lubossoltes321]

A very interesting start. Too bad I shoot feathers but maybe when the kids get back into archery I'll buy a pack for them ...

[@jonruku523]

Hi Jake need some names of suppliers thats I can order from.

[@PJ-xm6hh]

Congrats on the launch Jake! Did you ever test the KSL vanes?

[@carinalarsen76]

I bought a set 😊 Green and white will go well with my future Victory VAP Gamer shafts (since they have green text). Will buy Uukha SX50 32# limbs this fall (then I get point on at +50m), new arrows is next on my wish list 😀 I currently have cheap Avalon Tyro arrows with 900 spine. I've postponed buying the VAPs due to now knowing what spine to buy or which vanes to use on them.

[@petrokemikal]

My go to's have been the plastifletch ep23's for a long time now.. Sure be interested in getting my hands on these overseas in Europe to try out !!

[@zachdavis712]

Do you think these would make a better hunting vane off of a springy rest than a trad vane? Are they about the same material just a different shape and size? They look great!!

[@peterkleinert8116]

Great product! I hope it would be available in Germany ....

[@derrisng]

Definitely want to try it, just wondering if that high profile will cause any clearance problems easily

[@arkwibooks6419]

Thanks for all the great videos! Trying to get a youth archer to 60M with a lighter draw weight. Using feathers now for the light weight. Thinking light vanes may be better for weather and wind drift. Worried about too much spin causing loss of energy. What would be the MINIMUM helical for this scenario? thank you

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Minimum I’d be at 1 degree.

[@arkwibooks6419]

@@JakeKaminskiArchery thank you, would not have intuited the vanes could be effective that straight.

[@DESIGNHERE]

Great looking product! I recognize the Carbon Express arrow but what is the thinner shaft arrow?

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Easton X10

[@DESIGNHERE]

Thanks!

[@Vincerama]

I like how Jake got his 6 year old nephew to write his name on his fletching jig ...

[@paularnold9376]

Now installing these vanes

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

How do you like them?

[@paularnold9376]

@@JakeKaminskiArchery think they great my groups improved a lot just waiting for the new colours to be availiable in the uk

[@juancarlossegadecanosa67]

Is the material similar to the current AAE WAV material, or to the old one?

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

The current one which is the same as the trad vane.

[@spaghettibadger647]

I use WAVs on my indoor/ training arrows (same arrows as my outdoor set, just last years set)... so would these work for me? (Olympic Recurve) (49lb, WA field and occasional target)

[@GarageMisadventures]

Heat gun on low works good to straighten them out. However heat gun on high make them melt like Salvador Dali vanes, and just like that you have to refletch an arrow. Turns out it wasn’t any faster. 🤷‍♂️

[@tareshgupta1095]

what material are they made of ?what material is best for compound ?

[@TheAngelspeed]

I see a lot of glue spill on your arrows, how you clean the X10 without damaging them..?

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

I shoot them just like that, always have. To clean, be careful with a knife.

[@davevannice6243]

I'm really anxious to try these on my 520 spine X-10's. How much helical would you recommend while using the Vane Master PRO? Love your channel.

[@RainbowArcher252]

Is there a max draw weight for recurve bows? I've had issues with spinwings that have a max draw weight of 40lbs. My arrows destabilised after around 60 metres; the back end started to rotate. I shoot between 47 and 52lbs depending on the tune needed for the arrow.

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

I shoot them well out past 50 lbs easy. No max draw. They work better at all draw weights compared to the original in my opinion

[@izwanmohd]

I wonder if it would work with fat 8.8mm arrow, getting frustrated with XS 100mm durability plus it is much expensive, but yeah shipping cost it tremendous

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

It would probably work well, but clearance may be an issue. However the can be shot off the shelf on a trad bow like a feather so I don’t see why it would make too much if any of a difference. I’m not sure on durability in that application though yours have to ask a trad shooter who has shot the aae trad vanes.

[@izwanmohd]

@@JakeKaminskiArchery I shoot barebow, my vanes have clearence issues probarly due to my cheap arrow rest :p, I asked a friend to order 2 pack for me so I should be getting it in 2 week times when he back to my country :)

[@cackler119]

I’m not a fan of mylar vanes, been shooting Bjorn Dragonflights for a year and a half, 3D and indoor. I’ve got about a dozen shafts that I’ll try these on.

[@blindarcher4962]

Website isn't screen reader accessible for blind users... No option to select color recognized by screen reading technology/software so can't add the new vanes to cart

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Sorry about that! Added wording for you instead. Let me know if it's still an issue!

[@blindarcher4962]

@@JakeKaminskiArchery Jake, seems to have worked, order should be in and thanks for the quick resolution. Congrats on the new product and can't wait to try them out.

[@shredfreak83]

I'll be waiting till alternativess carry's them. My bowstrings were 75ish for 3 coming from the uk. The shipping cost is retarded these days. Will be interesting to see how they compare to the kurly vanes im using atm for barebow.

[@MONKLJ]

Thank you thank you to realize the shipping to Thailand is massive, or any other place overseas. I'm listening to your video right now.

[@simofpv4865]

Awesome. I just ordered a set. I just fletched my arrows with Bohning Airs and can’t wait to compare the 2.

[@simofpv4865]

Would having the vanes further away from the nock result in a more forgiving arrow since it moves weight closer to the tip?

[@typhoon2827]

If This Old Tony did arrows.

[@sjohn_8627]

Does anyone know if the base is the same size as a trad vane???

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

It is yes.

[@brompasllechild8055]

Waiting for a hot minute gonna get some

[@shaunchng65]

The shape has been used in PDC darts for a very long time, lantern...

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

That’s cool. Had no idea. Edit: I see it now. Haha

[@shaunchng65]

@@JakeKaminskiArchery However, darts throwing is way too slow comparing arrows so it wasn't to my liking, i am looking forward to your new product, hopefully lancester will have it...

[@philharding5825]

Would love to try these vanes , the price is great for the product ,but the shipping costs to UK is just to much , that’s a shame,. Hey ho .

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Quicks will be carrying them.

[@blackriflex39]

my first vane purchase!!! anyone recommend a good fletching jig that can use any vane feather and plastic out there? budgets 100ish dollars

[@peterxyz3541]

I’m interested

[@legobot5268]

So technically it is a Trad Vane precut to a smaller profile?

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Technically a trad vane is a WAV vane first that was cut into a trad vane, and technically I had these before the trad vane exists. But yes 👍

[@Excalibure666]

It's interesting. I wish it wasn't glue on vanes. I really don't like to deal with super glue on expensive arrows, need to have a jig, removal needs solvents... Personally double sisded tape styles are easier, cleaner, quicker and you can even flech your arrow during a competition easily.

[@b.anders1574]

Please keep us posted about EU suppliers because $38 shipping won't do it.

[@jota15888]

Those look a lot like the AAE... Interesting

[@waynestevenson9613]

Maybe… Because they are manufactured by AAE? 🤷🏽‍♂️ As Jake said, they’re comparable to the Max Pro.

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Compatible to the pro max 2 shape but in WAV material.

[@emilvarga7764]

hello!

[@sickgit66]

How do they shoot off the shelf? Do you know how they compare thickness wise to the trad vanes?

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Exact same thickness. So they should shoot well off the shelf! The WAV, Trad and WAV PRO vane are the exact same material and same thickness just different shapes.

[@sickgit66]

@@JakeKaminskiArchery Awesome, I'll keep an eye out for them in the 🇬🇧, I use Rayzr's generally as I have to shoot feathers in comps but come winter I'd prefer a vane. Keep up the good work on the channel, your my go to recommendations on youtube for intermediate archers looking to push on with technique and setup.

[@JackyTran]

Congratulations on the launch. @canadaarcheryonline please tell me you’ll have this 😁