Product Introduction | Steiner 450 Tractor with Duals and Brush Mower

[@jaxturner7288]

You should put more messicks stickers on it.

[@StubProductions]

Jax Turner Four decals just on the hood alone. That’s Messicks loves stickers! Lol

[@jimharvard]

@@StubProductions i think all the stickers are because it is a "nich" tractor.

[@jerva245]

@@jimharvard "niche"

[@brandoncrimmins6296]

I would personally LOVE to see MORE videos on these machines and Ventrac if you sell those too. Really interested to see comparison videos between theseand Kubota.

[@dehavenfamilyfarm]

It may be somewhat related to the Ventrac, but the Steiner looks way cooler!!

[@mueckenhoeffer]

It is pretty much the same. Although 2 separate companies, Ventrac's chief engineer's last name is Steiner.

[@justinreed2708]

Steiner was the first tractor to

[@brianwestveer9532]

I would have like to see it working. Like seeing the different types of equipment

[@JohnDoe-ww2zf]

Marvin steiner strarted steiner tractors and his boys grew up working for him for the most part. He sold steiner tractors in 88 when he retired if you can call it that. 2 of his sons dallas and mark then started there own company in the 90s that later became ventrac. Marvin was never good at advetising he believed you build a better product and it will sell. Marvin and my great uncle were neighbors and good friends. He actually gave my my great uncle several tractors over the years to take care of his property with. Saidly they both passed away in the mid 90s.

[@mxadema]

Please please. Do more of those one of a kind equipment review.....

[@TCSkiFilms]

I would love to see more of the differences between Ventrac and Steiner. Priced the same? The controls look different. Are all the attachments interchangeable including the Cabs, Engines, hydrolics etc. They seem so similar that the choice would be between the two dealers and where the dealers are located.

[@russellbailey5952]

Steiner was originally built at Kreiders machine shop in Rockingham county VA. They sold the company and agreed to stay out of the business for 5 years. During that period they designed and built the ventral adding the features and toughness they felt the Steiner was lacking. Both are great machines.

[@jimwilloughby]

I like the look of that machine. I almost wish I had a real need for one. I say almost because I'm well past the age of working all the time.

[@kenrichardson4144]

Great video! Thanks for sharing❗❗❗ 🙂🙂🙂 👍👍👍

[@Eccentric5B]

Alright guys....................everyone have a shot every time Neil says, "niche".

[@Blasterxp]

Small question? When you lift or lower the implement does the beld tention change?

[@seandenis9044]

Best compact tractor i ever used

[@steveholton4130]

Maybe I missed it, but, did you ever mention that it IS All Wheel Drive? Also, Is it Stock with a draw bar and what is the rated Pulling Power? sdh in CT

[@eleventeenmachine5991]

Say niche one more time!

[@MessicksEquip]

Niche

[@eleventeenmachine5991]

@@MessicksEquip LMAO! Now we turn it into a drinking game.

[@littlerougue]

I see some Ventracs at a local mower place and they always intrigued me now I want one just gotta figure out a reason to have one

[@tomlindo2863]

It's like drugs, not even once! I'm up to two units and well over a dozen attachments.

[@terryjones8360]

I pushed mine to the limit a week ago and almost got it stuck. I say almost, because I wiggled around and got a small tree between the mower and the front duals. I had to cut the tree down to get it out. It was on a steep grade. No other tractor, (except the Ventrac) would have came out of there without a tow. The only thing I don't like about it is the foot pegs are worthless, because when you make a sharp turn, one side about breaks your leg and the other side goes out of reach. It doesn't look like this one has the foot pegs. Also I use the hand control more than the foot control. It's just easier.

[@lawrencebessette754]

That thing is cool can you do a video working it

[@StubProductions]

Is it a niche tractor? I think it is a niche tractor. It’s a niche tractor. Definitely a niche tractor. Lol

[@BiffsEquipment]

I like it better than the ventrax.. doesn’t looks so darn dated haha

[@Wjones450]

super nice tractors. 4x4 too!

[@gus473]

PROOFREADING NOTE: Duel = 🔫 Dual = 2x

[@Sawartist]

Always shut off engine before mounting belt on pulley.( 6:25 - 6:34 )

[@jimmcknight3021]

How heavy duty is the tree farm mower compared to the rough cut mower? Both Steiner and Ventrac regular brush cutter is too big to go in between the trees in our big slope area of the woods. My other question is s could the tree farm mower fit on the Ventrac?

[@ront8261]

I believe I read somewhere the Steiner family sold the Steiner tractor product line to Tektronix/Ransomes/Jacobsen; then, as Neal states, after a few years when the non-compete agreement expired, the Steiner brothers Venture Corporation started making Ventrac's, supposedly with slight differences to avoid Patent problems with the Tektronix/Ransomes/Jacobsen Steiner product.

[@Dfk429S9fo3]

I live in the heart of Ventrac country. One of the buildings that our shop uses is the original Steiner shop.

[@anotherdayanotherdollarfar5453]

I want to know what people are using for attachment todo Bedding in barns

[@_P0tat07_]

Up front, I would say they’re more expensive. But when you look at the price of the attachments vs buying a dedicated machine for each task, you can save money in the long run. But then you get into the issue of “Jack of all trades master of none”

[@MrJimsparky]

Hi Neil, Has the purchase of Steiner by Doosan/Bobcat effected supply OR will this become a Bobcat branded machine?

[@MessicksEquip]

No changes yet.

[@FishFind3000]

How does this compare to a ventrac?

[@lowermichigan4437]

I'm curious about this too. I've found way more information and numerous videos about the Ventrac.

[@MessicksEquip]

Steiner does a pretty poor marketing job

[@ventrac]

@@MessicksEquip We like your videos Neil. :)

[@MessicksEquip]

@@ventrac thanks. You guys do a great job on KZbin.

[@aj12271]

Kind of a niche video on a niche machine

[@jgk9820]

Would you call that a “niche” product?...lol. 🤓

[@carlwolf4865]

The front hookup is the same as international harvester had called a fast hitch

[@Primerk5]

it seems to me that the ventrac have a belt running the rear motor g where the steiners is hydraulically driven. I could be wrong but I think I had read that.

[@eosjoe565]

Doesn't Ventrac use a lever on the console for forward/reverse whereas the Steiner uses foot pedals?

[@Primerk5]

@@eosjoe565 I'm not sure about ventrac but the older Steiners had a column lever as well

[@emrythompson]

There is a S.D.L.A lever that you use to go forward and backwards, lift the front attachment, control speed, and the rear one controls the auxiliary function. These are beside you, not on the dash. You can also get a foot pedal for the Ventrac. I prefer my Ventrac over Steiner.

[@KubotaMonsterBX23S]

Ventrax knock off? Or is it the other way around? Never mind you answered the question lol

[@donttreadonme4355]

Same people

[@wildbill23c]

Same actually, the Steiner company started the Ventrac company in 1998 LOL.

[@Dfk429S9fo3]

@@wildbill23c the Steiner family started Ventrac. They sold off the Steiner tractor name a couple of years prior.

[@rtz549]

Might be a regional type tractor? Never heard of the brand before.

[@whiteie3.2]

Nah they've been around for awhile

[@westitzer]

Does the Steiner have an enclosed cab with A/C?

[@MessicksEquip]

Cab, yes. A/C No.

[@westitzer]

@@MessicksEquip Could the A/C unit be battery powered rather than engine powered?

[@MessicksEquip]

No one makes a drop on AC cab, there are components that you could piece one together, but this machine's not going to have enough electrical capacity to do it.

[@dougdunlap6890]

Nice

[@jethroimhoff2759]

I would love to see more Steiner videos.

[@eosjoe565]

I noticed you were able to hop off the tractor while it was running and then move it slightly forward and backward. Is there no seat switch or other safety interlocks on these Steiners?

[@MessicksEquip]

There is, but you can creep it

[@jwiereng]

Safety seat on 430 Max is only active when PTO engages.

[@jamesmoechnig3855]

I noticed that too. Super convenient, but also a bit creepy to see an articulated machine moving around while you're standing between the wheels.

[@malcolmcavalier7849]

He did not actually move the tractor forward and backwards, what he did was wiggle it side to side with the steering wheel, it helps with implement hook-up. Parking brake has to be on in order to get off of seat if the engine is running

[@eosjoe565]

@@malcolmcavalier7849 Yep - you are correct. Rewatching that portion of the video I see that it was the articulation moving back and forth. Thank you for clarifying this.

[@mikeholubek4419]

How much is the JD Snowblower in background?

[@buckhorncortez]

So, the Steiner has "duels" and is in a fighting contest with deadly weapons? The correct word is "DUAL" meaning "consisting of two parts or elements."

[@HippocratesGarden]

So.. is it a niche product? because it looks like a niche product, niche products are so.. niche..

[@jwiereng]

Duals

[@paintballer7171986]

Ventrac knock off?

[@wildbill23c]

No, the Steiner has been around a lot longer than Ventrac. Steiner was around in the 70's. Ventrac didn't come along until 1998. Steiner actually developed the Ventrac as well.

[@Dfk429S9fo3]

The Steiner's sold the Steiner tractor name off and then developed the Ventrac.

[@emrythompson]

Ventrac is a better, more heavy duty built tractor

[@MessicksEquip]

I'd argue the opposite.

[@voodoo_hog9282]

This guy might be 5 foot flat or less… 🤔 It might be an optical illusion idk

[@tylercorbin8073]

So basically a Chinese version of a Ventrac?

[@MessicksEquip]

Nothing Chinese about it. American owned and built.

[@tylercorbin8073]

Messick's Read the Fine print 😂

[@MessicksEquip]

Your going to need to clue me in here?

[@tylercorbin8073]

Messick's I’m just joking 😂

[@donttreadonme4355]

Nope steiner was owned by ventrac

[@blfarms1687]

You should use your hands more when you talk