Prof RV on how he sees the roles of new-age gurus such as Sri Sri and Jaggi Vasudev

Prof R Vaidyanathan draws parallels between the Urchava (Utsav) Murtis and Mulava (Mool) murtis in temples and New-age gurus and the acharyas of Mutts. A riveting conversation.
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[@varunaol]

Sri Sri Ravishankar ji’s Sudarshan Kriya has transformed my entire family’s life and taken us to unimaginable positivity. Will always be grateful to this Enlightened being 🙏

[@lokeshkumarray7560]

I agree. His preaching are very uplifting and I have rcvd a lot of benefit esp during the pandemic due to SI Sri's mastery of the internet.

[@shrutheems197]

Sadhguru made me understand Sanatan Dharma much better than any others

[@rapid5208]

Hinduism is like windows OS, always evolving. It may have bugs, but it can be fixed with tech support (gurus). Other abrahamic religions are mainframe systems. It cannot evolve and still runs with an old manual.

[@lethalvin]

Ha ha ha. Nice one.

[@Classical.Music.Indian]

Good one, but still you may be unwillingly and inadvertently complimenting the Abrahamic religion!

[@k.bhatta4257]

@@Classical.Music.Indian Yes! This kind of aquiescence and wrong application of sarvadharma samabhava and Vasudeva kutumbukam is what dumbs down Sanatana Dharma and pleases and emboldens predator religions!

[@k.bhatta4257]

@@lethalvin No. It's a bad analogy. Windows became a predator OS, always buggy and relying on consumers for research, still continuing with the App culture being promoted to perpetually make money out of software. Mainframes were also evolving and IBM also did a great deal of fundamental, bluesky, research for the good of humanity in general and not just to monetise everything and exploit the public ignorance.

[@ganeshbalasubramanian5206]

This is not the correct interpretation, in my opinion. Hinduism is not evolving. It's core principles are constant. But the path to the Supreme are extremely diverse and encompassing. If one wants to look at it in software jargon, Hinduism is like the micro-services architecture, where one may find that any method of worship will fit, like plug & play. Many other religions are monolithic and method of worship is fixed.

[@nsmurty4296]

I hope Sree Iyer looks at these comments and analyzes them carefully. Pgurus is an excellent channel and antidote to the malevolent media in India like NDTV and The Hindu. Mr Iyer, I hope this episode and its response are correcting feedback and will encourage you to explore these issues more deeply. It is very important to recognize the essential and critical roles many of our Hindu gurus play and have played historically. You need a much deeper and varied understanding of Hinduism, religion, philosophy and culture. Unfortunately, you have to study hard and engage very deeply with the evil Western academicians for this for they are really the best at this. Only then can you deconstruct them and rebuild your own faith. As Rajiv Malhotra says, the evangelising faiths have studied you carefully, with respect due to an enemy of the highest order, before they engaged and challenged you. On the other hand, we have followed the attitude of the 'ushtra pakshi' and pretended they will go away because we are so great! The 'new age' gurus have been a mainstay and a key component of the resurgence of Hinduism among the middle and upper classes in India. Gurus like Baba Ramdev and numerous others have been the bulwark against deracination and the cultural genocide resulting from westernization. Simply look at China and other parts of the world where Western norms have been institutionalized without a battle. The gurus have brought much needed 'credibility' among the West that is so critical for acceptance by upper class Hindus. The impact of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is being expressed in the amazingly popular Deepak Chopra, the catalyzing of meditation and pranayama techniques, the attention being brought to Indic heritage. Maharishi brought Indic ideas into mainstream America when he attracted the likes of the Beatles as sishyas. Why do you think a Christopher Nolan, a Steve Jobs, a Zuckerberg, the Wachowski bros visited India and studied in particular Indic philosophies before they embarked on their careers? It was indeed the impact of the so-called 'new age gurus' that has significantly contributed to this enrichment of the West, but also bought credibility and visibility to allow our modern Hindus to rediscover and value their heritage. We should have the utmost respect and sensitivity in all humility, to understand and appreciate the sacrifice and contribution made by the wandering sadhus of India. Among them, like the tallest of the Himilayan peaks, ranks Swami Prabhupada (A C Bhakthivedanta swami). His proflic interpretations of the Krishna canon and the Vaishnava Puranas is a true gem indeed. But his lasting impact has been the preservation and continuation of the Gaudiya Vaishnava tradition and also show how Hindu and Indic faiths can also be non-intrusively evangelizing. We should respect that, and the fact that Krishna kirtanas are encountered around the world and that the ISKCON temples and the Akshaya Patra are unique contributions to modern Hindu life. The very fact that your enemies savagely and viciously attack these institutions shows you their importance. The congress government of Siddaramaiah tried to shut down Akshaya Patra and the left has been going tongs and hammer against the gurus for the longest time. See how Patanjali and Baba Ramdev were attacked prior to the first election of Modiji. Who do you think is going to carry the light of Indic life into the wastelands of the south India and revive the systems there? The gurus will be in the vanguard, the front line and firing line. They really shouldnt and dont need to be attacked from within the tradition. So, Please educate yourself strongly on these, as you are one of the 'Atirathis' fighting this Kurukshetra and if you misfire, everyone will suffer.

[@yogitashukla4389]

Sree Iyer: Prof., Do you know anything about Sadhguru or Sri Sri Ravi Shankar? Prof. RV: Nothing whatsoever. Sree Iyer: Ok, let's have a 40 minute talk on their role, then. Prof. RV: Sure, let's begin.

[@maarirs12894]

Yogita Shukla Jaggi is just a businessman. Being Brahmin you are being ignorant. I suggest u find out more about ur own tradition then assess Jaggi yourself. Rigorous traditional practices cannot be substituted by wooly talk and fake cult rituals.

[@YVparari]

haha.. very well summarised !!

[@YVparari]

@@maarirs12894 You just called someone Brahmin just by their name speaks volumes of your own ignorance. All these gurus have doone immense sadhana to reach to the level they have. They have touched millions of lives and transformed it. You better read or try to know more about them than spit venom with ignorance.

[@maarirs12894]

vasistaism Arey baba. If Sadguru impresses u so much, I can only imagine how the real tradition will impress u. Sadguru may be your starting point. Move on from there.

[@Edupatroller4775]

It's always a pleasure listening Prof R Vaidyanathan 🙏

[@hitendmakwana]

There is welcome music incorrectly playing around 8 minutes 10 seconds. Please fix. If I could add, Prof RV directly equated gurus with ones who carry Urchava murtis. However, I strongly believe there were tons of rishis in every generation (whom we don't even know by name) but lived life of a true yogi and went around meeting people and propagating the true message. They are the reason our culture is still surviving. They were so popular and loved by everyone that they were almost felt like part of family. Hence, people started calling them in important events of life like death, marriage, new home, etc. It is a different matter than we don't have many rishis in current times.

[@shyamashyam391]

Whatever you say. I am in love with Sadhguru. If I have to choose only one person to follow for the rest of life, it is obviously him.

[@malhanneera]

Me too !👍👍 In our house,in Bangalore,many Americans stay for a day,before taking the next flight to Kozikot AND then to-- Sadguruji ( Esha Ashram)?👍👍

[@rapid5208]

Shyama Shyam , what you said is spot on!. You choose your path and follow it unwaveringly! Everything else is just noise!

[@kushsareen6752]

I’ve been listening to Sadhguru since 2012 and have done all his programs, volunteered for his organization, and been involved in every way I can with what he offers. I can surely say not only is he the real deal but one of the greatest yogi’s to walk this planet. He’s made a phenomenal impact on my life and the lives of many people I know. With you the best on your journey.

[@malhanneera]

@@kushsareen6752 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@youneverknow5555]

Shyama Shyam my love sadhguru😍

[@vikramrazdan5680]

Another superb comment by RV "Another new age guru props up, its like product differentiation"

[@jayrammoorkanikara303]

When listening to Prof. RV, I often feel like talking with an uncle who is smart, intelligent, funny with self-deprecating humor. You can listen to him for a long time and come out with bit more wisdom. Thank you very much Pgurus.

[@Subi654]

Appreciate the most relevant observations of Prof. RV. People go to these Gurus seeking solace and relief from modern day stress. Many Gurus exploit this market need! Thanks to PGuru for arranging this interview

[@sumandasgupta6179]

very nice hang out ... and Prof RV is very versatile person and I learnt a lot from him today ...

[@19683]

Very thoughtful and from the heart exposition on the subject by the prof., a practising Hindu. Unfortunately Iyer interjects with his chuckles. I wonder what his opinion is on the fact that the Adi Shankaracharya himself was a peripatetic guru.

[@thrinethran2885]

Superb analogy of the Pratishtha and the Utsava Murthy. Would like to remind Prof RV of Adi Shankara's independent works, Aparokshaanubhooti, Upadesa Saahasri , Viveka Choodamani and Vedanta Kesari.

[@meenanarasimha3710]

I had always liked Prof Vaidyanathan ‘s talks but this is way beyond his scope. It is obvious that he has absolutely no knowledge or personal experience of true gurus. His lumping together of all gurus as one class and describing them as ‘ shrinks ‘ shows utmost ignorance , frivolity and disrespect. I am also shocked by Mr. Shree Iyer ‘s casual attitude towards the whole subject. I assure you that people who follow true gurus go to imbibe spiritual knowledge and techniques of meditation to elevate their levels of consciousness and experience true bliss , peace and wisdom to conduct their lives - and not for the ‘apple ‘ handed by the guru. Please don’t underestimate the superior levels of consciousness of the true gurus or the ‘sadhana’ of the disciples. Please don’t lump the frauds with genuine gurus. The ignorance of the subject shown in this talk and the patronising tone of the video disappointed me - and I would suggest that the professor sticks to his areas of expertise only. This kind of work is fodder for the denigrators of Hindu religion. I suggest Pgurus to talk to people only about subjects that they are experts in ! In fact I would go as far as to suggest that you delete this video from KZbin or any other kind of media.

[@mangeshdalvi3097]

I completely agree with you Meena...! and thanks for highlighting the issue.

[@Kirumi_kanda_Cholan]

My opinion on this channel has changed after this video....

[@thrinethran2885]

Prof RV has not disparaged the new age gurus, he has only differentiated them from the spiritual illuminants of the Sanatana tradition. He has touched some raw nerves in the attempt, which is natural. "Madguru Jagadguru". If you don't savour it, reject it. I agree with him on several facts. The marketing orientation and "product differentiation" for instance. The coyness about being identified with Sanatana Dharma, in spite of drawing upon the founts of tradition. So you might ask, what is the spiritual mainstream? Sri Ramana Maharshi identified the two broad ways as Aatmaanweshana and Aatmasamarpana. We could call them the inquisitive (jnana, raja yoga) and the dedicational (nishkama karma, bhakti), the paths not being mutually exclusive.

[@jayasrig5166]

I wanted to ask too, to delete this video......

[@loke4321]

Smt Meenaji please remember that Sanatan Dharma is very large knowledge bank and one individual can't understand everything of it. RV is appreciating the contributions of all new age Gurus. His worry is about successor of the organisation. Vo ek kadava satya hai, we must respect his point !!

[@vijayvenkataraman]

I have followed RV on many issues. Here Prof RV and Sree Iyer Ji - I couldn't see the depth in this discussion. Too shallow. Understanding a GURU is not a Logical stuff. Even if i say, it will be impossible for the logical mind to capture. Deep exprience and their depth of following cannot be captured in words.

[@mitgop]

What do you mean by new age gurus? Aren't gurus always contemporary?

[@jayihsan3532]

Mr iyer, words have persuasive power. So when seeking donations for your channel, avoid making it sound like a business transaction. The ganesha artwork and other stuff you mentioned are gestures of thank you to your audience who are willing to dig into their pockets and fund your efforts. These are mementoes from PGurus reflecting its appreciation. Rest assured such sincere and warm thoughts will earn you more viewers/subscribers.-

[@TheSadhguruSense]

Whatever Prof RV is saying is true for Baba Ramdev . You may go to him for health and certain mental peace but nothing beyond that. But professor 's knowledge about Sadhguru and Sri Sri is very limited and its beyond his intellect to grasp them they do not offer quick fix solutions but talk about bringing a fundamental change in one's interiority and certainty people can go to them to experience the beyond.

[@086raghuram]

@Avinash K vinashik Shithead....rebut with facts if you can...not with baseless lies and insubstantial stuff in your worthless narrowminded head

[@malhanneera]

Pranam to Our Gurus of Bharat 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@sharanbandi7496]

Already Christianity and Islam is telling they also had yoga in their religion long before so yoga is not invented by Hindus but it exists in their religion. Please refer digestion of hindu practices into Christianity by dr Rajiv malhotra on KZbin

[@k.bhatta4257]

How long before?

[@rai3086]

Yes I know , especially the Christianity is big on meditation and consciousness concept borrowed from Hindu practises . But they don’t realise Christianity never exists beyond 2000 yrs or so . But yoga was part of India since eternal , as we really don’t know the time period when it developed , it’s so beyond time .

[@crnarasimha2946]

Prof.RV should not talk loosely about Amma,Sadguru and Sri Sri all of whom are rendering yeoman service to the country. Reducing them to shrinks only exposes his ignorance. From now on I will have to view P Gurus more skeptically.

[@praveenkumar-tp2yb]

This is a solid example of height of ignorance. Hindu is not a religion it’s just a geographical identity. Yoga is the culture of this land, our way of life. We don’t recognise us with any religion. That is very important. The way he speak I can see typical Brahmin dominance exerted. Like how they normally think everyone else who is non Brahmin is no good. BJP should tone down these kind of ppl voicing such idiotic ideas. This is the reason why BJP can’t find its way through Tamil Nadu. It’s easy to criticise. Prof RV has no idea what he is talking about. He should apologise for what he had said

[@umeshshekhar3785]

Don't know about Tamil politics, but I agree with you on RV Ji's ignorance on spirituality, 'Hinduness', Sri Sri and Sadhguru. Mr. Iyer ought to withdraw this video.

[@MSGMSUSA]

In every Tambrahm wedding you can find one uncle who talks like he knows everything under the sun. RV is one such 'know it all' mama. He has no clue on the impact and transformation that AoL and Isha is bringing in the lives of people.

[@PGurus1]

Stay factual and keep the questions on the content

[@TheVinodhrkumanu]

Sir, I welcome your opinion, but not your conclusion. I had different experiences with Our Sadhguru. My life has transformed. Sir, kindly consider my viewpoint too before making an opinion or conclusion on such topic.

[@anujachary4429]

Couldnt bother to listen to the entire video after reading comments. Even after giving it a second chance. The title itself seems to be disrespectful/ condescending to "new-age" gurus by calling them so 😊

[@RajeevAnand]

I have found Sri Sri and Sadhguru talking mostly common sense and many times even questioning blind practices. We need such people. I prefer them 200% anyday over maulanas and missionaries who are out to wipe out sanatana philosophy.

[@RajeevAnand]

@Avinash K Did you go and watch asshole ? Go to court and fight instead of talking nonsense. You are shame to your mother and mother india. Bloody leftist

[@RajeevAnand]

@Avinash K I haven't leftist islamist gaandu. Neither did i appreciate him on those topics. I don't poke my nose where I don't have knowledge. And I don't follow Isha.

[@RajeevAnand]

@Avinash K Get lost fucker. I don't give a damn which wing you are. And I don't have to explain anything to a dumb head like you. Your mother will be ashamed of you.

[@RajeevAnand]

@Avinash K I'm done with you insane asshole. No point talking to dumb people. You continue to laugh your ass off

[@subhashischowdhury6171]

Chose your words carefully, specially when 100s and 1000s of people are watching you... There are 2 ways of addressing, first Direct when you speak for yourself and 2nd indirect, when you talk about the topic and topic only using facts, events etc and not make any personal comment. This video was all about RV's PoV on modern Age Gururs. He passed personal comments. Try to avoid such mistakes, as it is very clear in the following comment section.

[@ashoksinghal5620]

Very interesting talk. In North too there are/were many like Asaram, Ram Rahin, Rampal, Nirmal baba have/had large followers by selling simple ideas and would hardly know Shastra. They are popular because they accept all w/o qualification. Yes new age Gurus are ** Gurus who sell well and are paid well.

[@subhashrierv7945]

I guess 2 learned doctors talking about building a wonderful bridge. It appears clearly the two of you are boxing all the gurus who are helping the transformation of the next generation into one category. I don’t know much about Shri Shri . But Sadhguru teaches yoga and meditation and helps a self transformation.

[@maverick_always]

Hinduism is like linux open source very flexible has paths for every seeker , anyone who wants to modify the kernel they can to achieving nirvana

[@vikramrazdan5680]

Supreb comment by RV that "Confession is about the sins they have committed or the sins they are going to commit"

[@priyachariar4508]

The professor is so amazing!! Would be nice if 'it', 'idol' are not used in relation to the murthis.🙏

[@bsr8665]

Those who are contemporary are the true gurus.......... don't defame them as new age gurus........... knowledge of puraanas, Upanishads can't make one a guru 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@lajunair]

Its so disappointing that people with good command over language and relatively better understanding about some aspect of life like politics or finance or social studies assume they have superior knowledge about completely different areas of interest and pass it as expert or studied opinion. Prisoners of own knowledge i suppose. What the big issue in admitting that 'i just dont know'..

[@KishorKumar-sx5vb]

Shri, a question for you and for RV. Dont' you think OSHO was a dharma guru? Normally I don't find OSHO is talked in between the good people but in the personnal discussion every body admits him as a "Mahaguru'.

[@KishorKumar-sx5vb]

@Avinash K Sorry, I never meant so. I have due respect for Shri Jaggi vasudev je.

[@SharkFishSF]

Those who know Tamil here, I encourage you to watch Kaalachakraa presentation by Chikkalingam, he talks about hindu rituals and their purpose...

[@nopanyk]

Sadhguru is as timeless as Shiva. The way yoga is introduced at Isha is the same as introduced by Shiva, Patanjali, Ramakrishna Pramhansa or Buddha. This is a gross misunderstanding of Sadhgurus work

[@indianmilitary]

Brahma+saraswathi, vishnu+lakshmi and shiva+parvathi are cosmic allegories.

[@kushsareen6752]

Been involved with Sadhguru’s Foundation since 2012 and couldnt agree anymore with your statement

[@rai3086]

kashsoldier yes agree , but any power / energy on earth which you cannot explain or reason but something that has a huge effect on you is also called as shiva . Hence the first yogi is also called shiva . Anything that you feel god like you call shiva . This is common in this culture.

[@nopanyk]

Inspiring videos I completely agree. Unfortunately details are lost sometimes for want of brevity

[@abhisekmohanty2869]

Really interesting discussion. I loved it.

[@vinaypatil5959]

Sree Iyer ji , pl. Request prof RV to have some sitting arrangements so as to create some distance between the camera and his face. Adding one or two LED lamps will also brighten up the background. Many times the close appearance of his face to camera becomes Scarry. A humble request .

[@xman953]

For example a Sadhguru is a person who does not rely on books/vedas/etc.. A Swamy is different from a Guru or a Sanyasa, etc.. Professor here classifies all into one category "new age gurus"

[@xman953]

@Avinash K lol. Where is all this anger coming from? Have we met before? Or have you met the Guru you are so much referring to here?

[@jupiterkumar1]

I am at a lose to understand the purpose and approach of this discussion on the so called 'New age' gurus. We strive to introduce many among our family, friends and network to subscribe to PGurus as part of our sensitivity to protect the Indic cause. Hence my only request is to avoid approaching topics on spiritual gurus from India with confusion of communication intent and more importantly with a reductionist lens seemingly from the issues stemming from knowledge of agamas among religious purists and the limited experience of watching youtube videos about these gurus. While there are many who take advantage of people, most successful Gurus with large followings are a breed of Raja yogis with their application of yogic sciences and the diversity of mega social and humanitarian initiatives they manage. A mystic like Sadguru Jaggi is a distinct phenomena who has shown the world what one individual can attain to in 24 hours of his day by a certain mastery over his life energies that he wanted to run off and transmit to the world. He doesn't have any time in his day to think and so almost every word he utters seem to be coming from a source code effortlessly that not only clarifies but also deepens the seeking sense of the listener. He has attracted millions and some of the best minds to align to his vision of embodying classical yoga, creating consecrated spaces for wellbeing, stirring national and international ecological movements, building ecosystems for sustainable inclusive businesses, promoting India's culture and traditional technologies and running mega social and humanitarian programs all by the force of volunteers and donations. Its but natural that they have to find people, funds and ways to work within the constitutional framework. These are the gifted incarnations if I may say who have justified their time on the planet beyond the common human cognition thus becoming icons of a rare kind. It is for the people, sponsors and government to support, protect and nurture the good work of such collectives especially since dharmic traditions follow a decentralized approach to experiencing unity. Baba Ramdev has not only created a massive, enjoyable movement around yoga practice mainly among the middle class Indian household, but he has also shown that he can create a $2 Billion enterprise using Ayurveda and wellness as the central theme. Still live in rags and set a great example of a rare kind of unfathomable success. It's because of people like Sri Sri, Mata Amritanandamayi, Bab Ramdev and Sadguru Jaggi that today over 2 billion people have taken to yoga and experientially understanding certain shades of bharathiya scientific and dharmic traditions around the planet. Since I have a direct experience of all these organizations, in my view they have been the greatest ambassadors of Indian spirituality, art, culture, aesthetics and even enterprise to the world in the last 30 years. The missions and maths are just great and highly empowering, but they alone cannot build the necessary infrastructure to raise human consciousness and instill dharma or combat all predatory forces in it's new forms acting against the Indic civilization. It requires a tremendous amount of strategic and tactical application by realised and capable hands and that where the yogis/Satgurus fill the wide gaps. Let's not forget that yogis have always been critiques and advisors of kings in India through out its history. If success as an institution and installations of new consecrated spaces aimed at bringing forth global awareness of consciousness, inclusive economics, ecological social movements and the science of human mastery is viewed as activities in offering just solace, then this discussion and attitude towards our Gurus needs a careful re-examination.

[@umeshshekhar3785]

Couldn't have agreed more, Sir. Articulated extremely well!

[@kushsareen6752]

Santhosh Kumar Very well said Santosh ji. My deep involvement has been mainly been with Sadhguru and his Isha Foundation. Having the opportunity to volunteer and work with people at his ashram I’ve seen and gotten the chance to be a part of the phenomenal work they are doing to uplift man kind. In fact I’ll go to the extent to saying Sadhguru is one of the greatest yogi’s/mystics to walk this earth, especially with the dhyanalinga consecration which no other yogi has been able to do for thousands of years.

[@Abhay17291]

With all due respect sir, I think your comments are not differentiating between religion and spirituality. Like sadhguru said, "calling yoga Hindu is like calling gravity jewish". Indians may have discovered it, but it was always there. Moreover, having knowledge of Upanishads and Vedas does not mean the person is more qualified without experientially understanding it. Likewise following a ritual also doesn't equate to being more spiritual.

[@sharanbandi7496]

Dear abhay please refer to digestion of inventions and discoveries of other religions especially hindu into Christianity by dr Rajiv malhotra. The christians are not even giving the credit to Hindus for the so called "discoveries" and assimilate the good aspects into their religion and say they did it. Please see the videos on KZbin there are plenty by dr Rajiv malhotra and also srijantalks KZbin channel

[@Abhay17291]

@@sharanbandi7496 Of course, I agree, things that Indians knew ages ago where discovered recently by westerns. Indians never got the credit for it. If a foreigner had made told the same, I would have definitely put forth the same argument. But since it's Prof RV, who is an Indian, should have made that differentiation. I didn't say credit doesn't go to Indians for discovering it. All I am saying it let's not confuse that we own it. We may definitely have more knowledge about it, but it's not ours.

[@rai3086]

Abhay V Spiritual knowledge of India definitely belongs to anyone who is willing and have a deep desire for spiritual wisdom. But what the above person is complaining is the risk of religions ( foreign ) digesting the knowledge and using it to propagate Abrahmic religions which are Infact uncomparible with the philosophy of yogic science . Their concept of God as a personality that is very judgemental , I. E , with the concept of hell , heaven and judgemental day etc ... when god will protect only those who belong to this particular religion . It is difficult for many to accept this . This is totally misuse of Indian knowledge to propagate such incompatible religion . This needs to be addressed. If anybody ( non Indians ) want to accept it let them do it in a pure form instead of this hybrid ( digested form ) as this defeats the sole purpose of yoga .

[@Deveshi.A.]

My opinion on PGURUS changed after this video this video shows utter stupidity of audacity of RV

[@AuravWalden]

Just as I wouldn't ask Mr Shri Shri Ravishankar or Mr Jaggi Vasudev's to evaluate PGurus' and Prof RV's role in society, I do not approve of the latter stepping beyond their areas of competence and evaluating the contemporary spiritual Gurus' roles.

[@hariharanr2140]

Prof.RV is not denying contribution of the new age Gurus. They have their role to play and thats is bring appreciated and their ability to attract people which is in fact good for the society. But what they teach is only ways to live healthy & happy in physical world. However Vedas, Vedanta, sastras, agamas, Puranas, upanishads are much much deeper concepts to understand sookshma tatvam. One has to evolve continuously to reach the higher planes and be a sadhak.

[@TheVinodhrkumanu]

@@hariharanr2140 In fact, that is what our contemporary gurus are doing it.

[@roopajayaraman3694]

In the current scheme of things this title and discussion is not absolutely necessary ..if you must have it then a survey or panel discussion would have been better

[@srikanthms7275]

Great information as usual... Thanks a ton 🙏🙏

[@mangeshdalvi3097]

Why background music?

[@PGurus1]

Editing mistake. Regret the inconvenience caused.

[@086raghuram]

I understand what you are trying to do. I am sorry to say that the host and the speaker really do not understand what they are speaking....The very reason I understood the oneness of Yoga and Santana Dharma and became proud of my culture is because of Sadhguru and the efficacy of the spiritual/meditative practices which he imparted....through them we perceive the truth and realize the blissfulness and oneness of creation....The practices are real solutions not just for psychological solace friends....Attend those programs, Do that Sadhana for a significant period and then provide your feedback...without it you totally miss the point.....I can promise you your years of intellectual circus with the holy scriptures- vedas/unpanishads etc do not even come close to the inner experience that Inner Engineering/Shambhavi Mahamudra delivers in few weeks.....because with inner experience you actually perceive it ..at your body,mind,energy,chemistry,elemental & cellular level so deeply that you cannot miss your inner ananda nature...with intellectual Vedanta....you may know what is not the truth..but you can never touch the truth....Please understand the limitation and do not attempt to grasp something when you have not done enough homework

[@tashidelek5793]

Thank you! Exactly the way i feel.Although i cannot say "became proud of my culture " I can say that i have immense respect and devotion to the sacred Dharma and the ancient Indian culture because of what i experienced and able to perceive through my practises and meditation with Isha programs.

[@086raghuram]

@@tashidelek5793 Thank You...No culture is devoid of evils in history..Bharat unfortunately has its share of social evils :( ...definitely we should not forget them and make sure such things won't repeat...doesn't mean that we should not be proud of good stuff ancestors have created and sacrifices they have made.... things like you said....profound wisdom, spirituality, devotion , culture of debate , seeking & exploration , free speech, pluralism, festivity- music,dance & many arts, reverence to mother nature, of course magnificent temples etc

[@tashidelek5793]

@@086raghuram I agree with all you said. But i think you misunderstood me. Since i'm a Tibetan and grew up with a different culture thats why i cannot claim it as my culture and take pride in it. Otherwise, of course i would be proud of my culture if i was born Indian. Having said that as a Tibetan although I cannot claim culture as great as India's i am a proud Tibetan.

[@086raghuram]

@@tashidelek5793 Got it....Trust me...Tibet is probably keeping this more alive than India :P

[@086raghuram]

@Avinash K I wont ...stop me if you can

[@prashantmanral0]

Great speakers however would like to point a few things : 1) Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was not the Guru of Sri Sri Ravishankar in fact it was Pandit Sudhakar Chaturvedi who initiated him in Bhagwat Gita . He lived in Jayanagar Bangalore same city as Prof RV till the age of 123 years. 2) Art of Living as a movement is guided by all forms of Yoga . Bhakti Yoga ( loosely known as devotion ) . There are 9 aspects to Bhakti . Karma Yoga ( Yoga of Action ) and Gyan Yoga ( Yoga of knowledge ) and Raja Yoga ( Royal Yoga of meditation ) . There are Seva projects with reviving rivers , 70K children provided free education , food and transportation . There are knowledge videos , meditation and of course Bhakti . 3) All forms of yoga merge into each other one cannot be in Bhakti and not be a Karma Yogi and then not be a gyan yogi . Gyan yogi will also be drawn to meditation . There is nothing wrong in giving information in capsule format . Some would like to go deeper and there is knowledge for that as well . Example one need to do karma yoga rather than know the shloka ( page number , book number , line number etc ..) . An aspirant may delve deeper depending on his /her capacity and interest . The teachers job is to ignite interest in knowledge and action as a prof sure RV ji is aware of that . 4) Iskcon may be Bhakti but there is lot of aspect of Seva and Gyan , painting everything as Bhakti would be incorrect . Each aspirant picks up the path as per their mental make up . 5) Maharishi Mahesh Yogi brought meditation to the west just calling him Guru of Beatles is superficial . He brought forth so much vedic knowledge and knowledge of Ayurveda . His disciple Deepak Chopra also made Ayurveda a household name in the west . 6 ) Stating new age Guru does not know vedas or upanishads is incorrect . Sri Sri Ravishankar has given knowledge on Bhagwat Gita , Upanishads , Yoga Sutras and even Ashtavakra Gita . Ashtavakra Gita is what ignited the fire in Swami Vivekananda when Ramakrishna Parmahansa gave it to him . 7 ) Sri Sri Ravishankar has formed Vaidic Dharma Sansthan for vaidic knowledge specially Agama 8 ) Talking about new age in the same breath as Nithyananda is shameful 9) Both the presenters have done only Pradikshana and not in the Garbha of the knowledge themselves . Knowing the Guru Parampara of RamaKrishna mission , ISKCON and Art of Living they would not say so . 10 ) There is Organisation and knowledge . Real succession should be carrying on the experiential knowledge of vedaanta not just organisational structure and real estate .Unless you want page number this , line number that sort of preservation of knowledge . Art of living for that matter has IAHV also as its sister concern . Urge Sree Iyer and Prof RV to delve deeper and go in Garbha of knowledge.

[@bvshenoy7259]

*All new age gurus and yogis as Prof.RV said are Ustav moorthys*

[@prashantmanral0]

@@bvshenoy7259 that analogy exposes even more ignorance

[@lokeshkumarray7560]

JGD is not about addressing Sri Sri. It is based on the idea that everyone has a higher self which should be addressed as a general way of uplifting our level of interaction.

[@umeshshekhar3785]

From the New Age Dictionary: Sense: Prof. Vaidyanathan talking about finance. Nonsense: Prof. Vaidyanathan talking about Spirituality Spectacular nonsense: Prof. Vaidyanathan's take on role of New Age gurus.

[@subhashischowdhury6171]

very well summed up

[@krishnasaisudarshan9825]

Why everyone negates dharma shastras? That’s the backbone of the world functioning.

[@ALANJohnnaveenchandar]

I wish Prof R. V talked on Shri Ramana Maharishi and included JK ( Jiddu Krishnamurty ) and delved a little deeper in appreciation of the ISKCON movement and called into attention on how Hinduism has thrived despite not being a congregational religion. And one has to know thoroughly about the Abrahamic religions before talking about them. Incidentally late Justice V. R. Krishna Iyer had a close association with Maharishi and E.C.G. Sudarshan...at that time the TM movement became popular. I remember I had a Bulletin issued with the Levitation Technique..and some details on the Physiology of Meditation and Yoga. Rudolf Steiner is a must read..try...

[@YVparari]

prof saab has thoroughly got it confused between religious and spiritual gurus...

[@YVparari]

@Arid Religion need Spirituality to stand on. Spiritual is a stand alone entity. Try to perceive more than mere reading you will know

[@YVparari]

@Arid No it doesn't. Many of it has largely remained symbolic and outdated. The holding stem is only spirituality. S doesn't need R but R needs S.

[@xman953]

I see more intellectual western perspectives here than anything else.

[@meenanarasimha3710]

xman953 Absolutely !

[@nsmurty4296]

Yes, that is so perfectly put. I also thought the perspective of Prof RV is too westernized, from early 20th c England.

[@bmaji1]

The whole show was like 2 intellectuals talking about Spirituality. It's like sitting beside the ocean and philosophizing on it. Jumping into the ocean clears all confusion. Spirituality is all about exploration and first hand experience. Intellectual exercise is essentially empirical and not experience based.

[@logipadmanabhan3306]

thank you RV sir,,IN tamilnadu our ladies use to say all their problems to the so called PUJARRI or as you say priest.thank you sir,,thats good on you

[@miyamotomusashi3679]

I used to disagree with this video, but now I agree.

[@randomidentity4279]

Will you be doing a similar series on Gurus from other religions also? I guess not

[@rpani905]

Sadhguru is Solution to every problem if you follow him perfectly....

[@indianmilitary]

He ignores jnana yoga. Grave mistake

[@shyamashyam391]

@@indianmilitary lol, you have not heard his story in which he says Bhakti, Jnana, Karma and Kriya to come together to attain the divine.

[@anandhanhanumantharao7851]

The real big New Age Gurus from South India are out of bounds for middle class and down below. Their ability to communicate in vernacular is almost zero. They are good for crowds in English speaking countries like US, UK, ANZ etc. The wealth some of them have made is unimaginably huge. I should say exploited the market very well. Their customers have bought their products, which have no tangible or intangible value. Sadguru's biggest asset is his excellent English knowledge

[@sukumarhegde1767]

Interviews with sadhguru once pls..

[@davanasantosh4180]

Annoying background music

[@ivarhakuse8572]

I think when the Hindu gurus state that their practice transcends religion, it’s very true as Hindu Dharma is above and beyond religions. By religion they are probably only referring to Christianity and Islam.

[@samanthamasters5015]

Prof.RV has his mental" Conditioning"! On this particular topic. Mahesh yogi is one of the Guru of Sri Sri. Infact SriSri had Shri. Sudhakar Rao Chathurvedi - who is a Chathurvedi himself also Gandhi ji's PA and Guru on spiritual Gyan. Passed away aged 122 this Feb 2020.who taught him scriptures to some extent at young age. Infact SriSri was ordained to take over as Head Poniff of Puri Shankaramatta.which he didn't. One should not judge others from their" Observations "only. Each " Modern day Guru " r there on " Their Calling" as a spiritual Being at a given time and space. Hindu Sanathana Dharma was never an Organised Religion. And I would prefer it to be that way. A loosely formed, set of ppl coming together for whatever time it takes. The core of Sanathana Dharma is " Impermanence of everything and Thathvam Asi" and Maya in this causal relam.prof.RV forgot make one very important point ,that these gurus r English educated and come from Family who r followers of GuruParampara and r represet that Parampara. They r the link between the old and new. You can see ppl from all age group from Oxford educated to village school dropouts. They r attracting the young fold who r not getting enough convincing from families in today's world. In future too it's going to be like this. Where we will have purist and socialist. Swami Vivekananda ,and Chinmayanandha had their mortal weaknesses too .one like his cigar another a snuff! Who r we to judge?! Ppl r getting their Gurus according to their level of spiritual awakening. And it's always an internal journey to be carried out on their own. Guru is just a pointer. Global gurus r making ppl get involved in some social causes in their region and make them proactive. They too r showing the way of Bhakthi, Gyan and karma yoga.

[@shrirangdike9436]

Your reply shows total disregard for ProrvRV and also guru parampara!

[@vanadkbshiva7029]

ITS A TREAT to listen to WISDOM of prof RV. I'm so impressed by his wit like he corrected u about confession box right away shows he's communicating well & listening as well. BTW your laser cut gift is GANESH GANESHAA !

[@YASHWANTH25691]

In Sanskrit it is ganeshaa

[@vanadkbshiva7029]

@@YASHWANTH25691 Sanskrit or hindi or mixup or something else. I'm not against sanskrit but I expect southern ppl not to b against national language Hindi

[@k.bhatta4257]

@@YASHWANTH25691 No, it is Ganesha (a is one beat; see Manjul Bhargava, aa for two beats, important with Ramaa which is feminine); in Hindi they make it Ganesh like Rama and Ram. Also not all southerns are against Hindi; in Karnataka we had taken to learning Hindi enthusiastically. Only in Tamilnadu who are fanatic about fake AIT and Dravida narration Hindiphobia exists. Bollywood also corrupted Hindi with Urdu and Parsi imports etc in preference to those from Sanskrit).

[@rai3086]

VANAD KB 'SHIVA' I don’t think we South Indians are against Hindi ( not talking for Tamilians though ) , why should we . Most South Indians speak and understand Hindi and you should give credit for that fact . How many North Indians can manage any south language without living here or even living in south they get away using just Hindi and you must thank South Indians for that too . But you must first have clarity of what is the national language of India . Hindi is not a national language of India , all Language are given equal status as per the constitution. So pls correct your assumptions that Hindi is a national language.

[@rai3086]

VANAD KB 'SHIVA' And also let me say that nobody hates Hindi as of now , and people learn it by choice . But there should not be an impose of any language as a superiority on rest of India . Then definitely there will be hate . And it will never work . You see what happened in Pakistan , Urdu was imposed on punjabi , balochis , Pashtuns , sindis etc ... now this led to each region feeling dictated by a certain culture . There is totally disconnect in that nation with a demand for freedom inspite of a common religion.

[@sparrow4247]

Sri AdhiSankara in Vivekachoodamani describes about Sadhus as, " Shantha mahantha: nivasanthi santhaha, vasanthavath loakhitham charanthaha/ Theerna swayam beema bavaarnavam janan, ahaithuna anyanapi thaarayanthaha// No doubt that the newage gurus services are laudable. But I don't know how far they fit to the above sloaka. Generally Sanathana dharma praechers have gone commercial.

[@agastya8999]

Yogeshwar Krishna in Geeta says, "A Yogi is greater than Tapaswi, greater than Jnani, greater than a Brahmin, therefore Arjuna be a Yogi " "A Yogi doesnt require to read any Granthas to do any poojas he is greater and above that " Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev is a Yogi.. He has consecrated many Deities Dhyanalinga being the highest manifestation of Divine, the Linga Bhairavi Devi he himself did Prana Pratishtha but after that he never goes in Garbha Gruha nor he touches the Devi there are female Pujaris for her, he has Solidified Mercury lingas and made Theerthakund for Bath so that people will receive the medicines, from the Kunda. The Amount of Knowledge and Understanding he has about the Dimensions beyond physical nature.. Before commenting on somebody look at what work he is doing.. What knowledge he has.. Shri Krishna has said again and again in Geeta that Yogi is Greater than a person practicing and reading the Vedas.. No doubt Vedas are greater but the knowledge can be acquired by Perception..

[@shreekrishnajoshi7345]

For an idiot everything is great..Simply because he does not have an idea of what to expect..OK..Let us come to Bhagavad-Gita shloka you quoted..Now who is Yogi is explained by Krishna earlier ..Now quote that and see the fraud jaggi can be called as such..Then let's look into what is the meaning of the Shloka you mentioned..To give one simple example out of many, a Yogi is the one who sleeps when others are awake and one who is awake when others are asleep.. Don't bring hotchpotch of consecration of an idol in non agaama ways and suddenly switch to high-tech monkey jump yoga

[@venkatasubramanian8642]

At 27:25.....One of the surely original works of Acharya Shankara - is Upadesha Sahasri

[@minisk2004]

BG 3.28: O mighty-armed Arjun, illumined persons distinguish the soul as distinct from guṇas and karmas. They perceive that it is only the guṇas (in the shape of the senses, mind, etc.) that move amongst the guṇas (in the shape of the objects of perception), and thus they do not get entangled in them.

[@PS-eu6qk]

You forgot to mention Swami Nityananda who is being falsely persecuted like other Hindu gurus like Shankaracharya. Please make videos on the persecution of Hindu gurus like Swami Nithyananda and the role of breaking India forces behind it

[@NETKINGSHUBHO]

fix the audio mixing issue.. very irritating and hard to concentrate on what you guys are actually talking about!

[@vikramrazdan5680]

Great comment from RV that "We can also preach - Be Good - but we will hardly get 1 or 2 followers"

[@Unknown-ev8tn]

Never fallow any human being Blindly What so ever he may be

[@icookwithmom]

Please check out the book American Veda. Also, Paramahamsa Yogananda's book Autobiography of a Yogi.

[@ShowKrishna]

Unfortunately, Prof RV's vision of sacred is based on dress, not on what is going within these beings!

[@UMS9695]

As regards to the works of Adi Shankara, I completely disagree with Prof. Mani. Kanakadhara Stotram, Subrahmanya Bhujangam, Narasimha Karavalambam, Narayana Storam to name a few are authored by Adi Shankaracharya. Adi Shankara is the originator/creator of Smartha tradition to which Mr. Mani belongs. He needs to study our acharyas contributions including the inspiration, faith and a strong vedic foundation to billions of Indians over the centuries!!

[@jayasrig5166]

My request to Pgurus is, Pl dont make such discussions.The person in the video, has no knowledge of sanata dharma. He has some theory of his own and no experience of what life is all about. Even though sadhguru (I can talk only about sadhguru) has not undergone vedic shastras, he is a yogi. Let me ask you sir, do you know what happens to your system, when you recite or hear Rudram? If you sit with devi, what happens in your system?, when you sit with sun what happens in your system? When you sit with Moon what happens with your system etc......by sitting with sadhguru you know all by experience about sanatana dharma without learning even bit of vedas or shastras.... the entire video is crap...finally can he say what happens in the system when you pray or sit with ganapati ? When you cannot experience anything what is the big deal knowing about vedas, shastras etc, or having hand crafted pixture of ganapati.....except all this is another form of accumulation....also he has no knowledge what a guru is all about and ofcourse what a yogi is....

[@jayasrig5166]

@Avinash KAccept you don't know anything about this subject.

[@hariharanr2140]

Good analysis. Godess Sri Lakshmi dollar coin could attract women donators. 😀

[@sarak220]

I like to listen to Nityananda. His message is not simple but deep. You need to concentrate, If your mind wanders away you miss the point Hence he repeats himself. I know everybody will say he is fake and controversial. It works for me. He makes lot of sense. I suggest Start from listening to his older videos on youtube. Other guru is Babuji Dhastratbhai patel. Completely different.

[@ivarhakuse8572]

Love Nityananda ji. Great genius, hounded out of India.

[@srinivasjayaprakash2531]

Very good perspective by Rv sir

[@minisk2004]

BG 2.53: When your intellect ceases to be allured by the fruitive sections of the Vedas and remains steadfast in divine consciousness, you will then attain the state of perfect Yog.

[@swamyjiki]

Remove that background music

[@Fusion-sm3pe]

Excellent sir...with lot of emotion. !!

[@sca8217]

Here's a suggestion: let the gurus be. People believe them and follow them. Just because they exist in today's world, it doesn't automatically invalidate them. On the other hand, disciples and followers should also learn to step out of the guru's shadow and explore the Veda, Upanishad and Puran on their own. Follow the guru but do not deify then.

[@SmallusDicckus]

Why are you calling Sadhguru jaggi vasudev? I know thats his real name but dont try to defame somebody. I cant say iam a follower of sadhguru but i have done inner engineering and it has changed my life. That what i can tell better than talking utter bullshit on the youtube by talking names in order to get more views. Well its your choice to make yourselves popular so be it.

[@Ragameiste]

The professor is so retrograde when it comes to Hindu reforms. He will forever remain a conservative to the core. He does not resonate with the new generation on this matter. It is time to make Hinduism a competitive alternative to Islam and Christianity, else doom or irrelevance is certain. If people really believe that Hinduism has evolved with the times, this change is imminent to its own existence.

[@ivarhakuse8572]

38:03 I think that both Nityananda and Aasaram were victims of the church. Nityananda decide it best to flee India while Aasarm is in prison. Apparently it’s even illegal to challenge the charges on aasaram. So He’s effectively been ‘cancelled’. They tried it on with Satya Sai Baba too but I think He had a very strong team of lawyers. Most of their charges on Sai Baba were admitted as false. The girl who accused Aasaram was mentored by the church. It’s very easy to sling mud at someone but very difficult to recover out of it. Once your values have been called into question that’s the end and that’s exactly the game christian missions play.

[@vijayalakshmil7110]

Sir, paypal is the only mode of donation to you? Couldn't use any Indian credit card.

[@ushatyagi5880]

Better use UPI

[@sukumarhegde1767]

Jai hind...

[@jitheshr7765]

Prof RV must stick to politics. His knowledge on spirituality is low. Hope Pgurus does not make unworthy contents like this

[@rajkiranitbhu]

You need to put hashtags Sri Sri and sad‌guru

[@PGurus1]

Good point. Noted.

[@crazyrebel7406]

Not high flying, low flying....😂😂🤣🤣. Yeah sir I also heard person who reach's transcendental state in meditation can do that. The way you told triggered my laughter.

[@cpadman5800]

The topic was about new age gurus but Prof. Vaidyanathan instead of staying with this topic diverting into Agama sastras and other irrelevant issues, those things deserves a different forum. To say that the new age gurus are like "utsava muthrys" you don't have to spend 15 minutes. The new age gurus like Sadhguru and others are doing immense service to Hinduism whether they have any succession plans or not. Mahesh Yogi popularized the T.M insisting that it was not "Hindu" but scientific and universal and dr. Herbert Benson of Harvard confirmed the health benefits and today the T.M is secular and many people are aware of Hinduism due to TM. A.C Bhaktivedanta Prabhupada popularised the "Hare Krishna movement and today it is everywhere all over the planet, fast-spreading even in Russia. My point is when we did not have these gurus in the past, hardly any foreigner had any knowledge of Hinduism other than Hindus worship the cows, idols, and similar things, so Hinduism is bad. These new-age gurus have educated the foreigners about yoga, meditation, vegetarianism, Vedanta philosophy, and more.

[@086raghuram]

Thank You for such a revelation all commenters....I truly realized how divided we are.....This is definitely not the path I would be taking....I may vote for Modi...but never associate with some of these kind of extremely narrow-minded right wing elements...who subtly or directly hint at their birth based privileges, scriptural authority (as it is their authority at stake), claims of race purity and intelligence as a result of disadvantaged sections that received centuries of humiliation, inhuman treatment and lack of education without any sense of remorse and regret.......I am humble seeker.....Shambho

[@Menonsreegiri]

Manav seva is Madhav seva is the axiom normally the spiritual leaders preach, which is good for the society.

[@manoharpatil6795]

Sir Hariom 🌹 These new gurus are nothing but donation grabbers in the name of religion. There are very few who are utilising money for welfare of human. Hindus need to unite and retaliate against atrocities thursted on them by radicals. Today the need for Hindus is to learn self defence and security art. How to use arms and firearms. Sone gurus have become real estate brokers.

[@himdude9637]

ॐ I would appreciate if there was awareness in people to call it "Dharma" "धर्म ". "The law of Multiverse, ब्रह्मा़ंड " , "law of nature, प्रकृति". And the co existence of all three of us. प्रकृति, जीवात्मा and परमात्मा. This manifests itself in our way of life based on Sanatan Sanskriti. Vedic SANSKRITI is repository of knowledge of human evolution. This evolved with the time and yug (kaal). Dharma has universal application without discrimination. 1. According to the eternal knowledge on this ever existing mutliverse there is no creator or creation only the manifestation. Three always existed "Prakriti" the mutliverse/nature "jivatma" the creature /species and "Ishwar" the all pervasive Parmatma. The "purush" called jivatma the "prakriti" called nature and the "Ishwar" called all pervasive "paramatma". "Neither created nor destroyed only changes forms" the famous quote of "Gita" by Lord Krishna sums it up regarding existence of this Multiverse and us. And how insignificant we are in this Multiverse has been described in detail in few references that if we as a human goes to certain "Devalok", some earth like planets in this Multiverse and spend just a day there and come back on earth how many Lakhs of years would have already been passed on this earth. Interesting calculation of one day of "ब्रह्म" equals numbers of years on "पृथ्वी" earth. ईशावासयम इदं सर्वम This knowledge of universal applications gave such a good and peaceful life to its followers that India was the top economy of the world till 1200 AD since ancient time and supported most of the population in less lands and resources without destroying it unlike industrial civilization. Till the Islamic invaders took over the major part of India after several failed attempts of invasion loot and plunder. 2. The place between Himalaya in north to indu sarovar (Indian ocean) in south is called Hindu. Himalya Hi + indu. Makes the word Hindu. Used for geographic demarcation. Hindu kush mountain, Sindhu river all indicated the sanskrit origin of the word. But yes doesn't indicate religion but Geographic. Hindustan is a pure sanskrit origin word. Hindu + sthan. Any word added with "sthan" indicates its sanskrit origin. "sthan" became "stan" in apbhransh and prakrit. Has nothing to do with Persian or Arabic. Read the Aagmas and puran. I repeat Hindu word is of Indian origin and mentioned in Sanskrit text not a foreign word given by foreigners. But used mostly by them to identify the people living in this area. The muslim invaders tried to demean the word Hindu with many bad words to show them down and paint them as bad people. In persian they made Hindu word synonym with "thief" "black people". This is how racist jokes are created. They used this word so many times that it sounded like they created this word. 3. Since" Dharma" evolved and led humans from darkness to light from ignorance to knowledge. "तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमया". There was no other religion to compete So there is no name, no rules for bashing other religion and concept of conversion. You can't bash criticize or compete non existent. 4. This is why got more than 1400 books scriptures on various topics helpful in material and spiritual life and this knowledge evolved with time. 5. Ayurvda, Medicine, Vyakrna, Natyashashtra, state crafts, yagya hawan ritual, philosophy, astrology, Jyotish, poetics, sangita shastra, yoga, Veda,Vedanta, Aagam, Nigam, Itihas, Puran, Vyakaran, chhand, Nirukta, Mimansa architecture mathematics to name a few. Books are available on every aspect of human brain can imagine in such a detail that only one book Mahabharat contains one lakh shlokas. And this great knowledge is not only confined to Sanskrit text but in all ancient languages like Tamil Prakrit Pali Malyalam Kannada Telgu Odiya Marathi Bangali etc. Difficult to describe them in detail here. Just leaving that on readers interest and reasrech according to their likings. 6. In short Dharma is celebration of the diversity of Human knowledge. Celebrating life and Nature is integral part of Sanatan sanskriti. Hindu celebrate Holi Diwali Chhath Pongal Vaisakhi Sankranti alongside numerous smaller celebration round the year. 7. We as a layman only know about Dharma as a blind man knows about elephant after holding the tail of the elephant. 8. Most of us are only able to know what we see on daily basis like nature and creation worship. And on the basis of this we criticize and appreciate dharma. But Dharma criticize none. Dharma don't give scope for criticism but enlightenment and seeking truth . 9. There is so much more to know. Since I am born in a Dharma followers family. Therefore I celebrate the diversity of human thoughts with ease. Dose not mean i know everything. But once you will know Dharma out of the set criteria of Abrahamic religion for Dharma. You will find nothing to criticize like a blind man holding an elephant tail and saying why he is made to hold a snake. Instead of criticism You will question and seek answers. 10. Aghori sadhu is one example of acceptance of extremes by Sanatan dharma. For example when you see a survivor on discovery eating dead animal poo and pee either you appreciate or criticize this. But no one can deny that this human will survive the odd. And Dharma have a complete set of philosophy and practicing sect called aghori. However a few. To make sure that the human will survive the extreme. Human will not die out because of the certain dogmas made by the so called civilized society or religion. Dharma supports all accommodates all. You must have heard the news that NASA is recycling human pee and poo of scientists on board so they can survive on that for long in space. It's obvious that no madarsa educated can become such scientists. 11. Religion ends at heaven and hell only but the Dharma gives to strive even beyond this. That's Moksha complete liberation. Gives emphasis on seeking, knowing your self deep within and finding your own path. This is the reason from Sanatan dharma lots of ism like Jain, Buddha, Sikh, vaishnava Shaiva, Atheism, came out without any conflict or blood shed. Can you imagine the same with Abrahmic religion? 12. If someone adopts Sanatan dharma way of life. He automatically fits into the either Varna Vyavstha Brahman, Kshatriya, Vaishya, Shudra according to their profession or Ashram Vyavstha Brahmacharya Grihasth Vanprasth and Sanyas. Together its called Varnashram Vyavstha for the benefit of the society. I can enlighten you on this vedic Varnashram vayvstha. Mail me Varna division start from us. Our head is our brahma to control our shoulders are our kshatriya to protect us our stomach is our vysya to feed us and our foot are our shudra to serve us. In other words for ourselves we ourselves are our ब्राह्मण, क्षत्रिय, वैश्य and शूद्र. For our family we all ब्राह्मण, क्षत्रिय, वैश्य and शूद्र for each other. But for the society we are ब्राह्मण, क्षत्रिय, वैश्य and शूद्र according to our profession to the society. In Another term division of profession. Which exists all over the world in different forms. And this is most scientific division of profession to avoid conflict in society. This Varna can be achieved by your Karma. To fit into Ashram one has nothing to do. Fits in naturally and can stay in any of the phase as long as he wants. Now it depends on us that we respect equally to our teacher and our toilet cleaner. Which Dharma clearly says respect each and every thing. This is why worship for all not only to teachers. So if you respect your teacher and toilet cleaner equally you are a great Dharmik person. To show respect we must touch feet not the head. Now where you see fault in this varna system. Lots of Rishi like Valmiki, Vedvyas, Ravidas, Parashar etc were not born in cast Brahman but respected worshipped. Cast seems a tribal identity with all the evils of Ego and depends totally on an individual local social environment no support from Dharma 13. Sanatan Dharma allow an individual to seek truth, follow a path or make his her own path to reach the goal of 'Brahma" the energy and consciousness of the Brahmaand. The feeling of अहं ब्रह्मास्मी, I am the consciousness makes one enlighten and तत् त्वमसी, so are you makes you a Guru. This is the reason encouraged many enlightened soul to find and make their own path. Thus Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism, sant parampra like Kabir, Ravidas etc were born without any conflict. Dharma allowed them to propagate and flourish 14. Comparing Dharma with one book one prophet religion is not a good idea. Can only increase ignorance. Because books of mazhab are small simple and for that for the followers of that particular mazhab only. So better study the world's oldest surviving civilization based on Dharma with universal application, yourself. अहं ब्रह्मास्मी l तत त्वं असी. सर्वे जना:सुखिनो भवन्तु. सर्वे सन्तु निराम्या:l वसुधैव कुटुम्बकम l सत्यमेव जयते l ॐ शांति l and most relevant mantra of today सठे साठयम समाअचरेत 🙏🙏🙏🙏

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[@ammeetborkar2332]

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