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[@froknowsphoto]

I want to thank Mike for coming on to critique my attempt at interior photos. He was able to share so much valuable information as well as suggestions for making these types of images better in the future. This is how you critique someone's work. You give it to them straight ahead. You point out positives and you point out the subtle nuances they may not have considered. It's not about being "mean" by pointing things out, it's about planting a seed for the next time. Like when Mike talked about lines or colors intersecting, that's stuff I never considered or thought about. But next time it will be in my mind. The goal of a critique is to open you eyes to a different perspective from time to time. It doesn't mean the person doing the critique is right or wrong. It's just getting someone else's thoughts, so you are prepared for the future.

[@ManBahadurRai13]

Thank you so much for the great video!

[@jeffreyscheithe9571]

Thank you Jared. I applaud the fact that you are extending your skills into a new area of photography and then being brave enough to put you photos up for a critique by a high end photographer in that specific genre. I see a couple of negative comments saying that you are not a professional photographer. Wrong. You are a professional photographer trying to expand his skills into an area you are not an expert in yet. Negative comments show inherent self doubt about their own work or capabilities. Thanks.

[@MrPorquoipas]

Best Video and I learn so much absolutely the best I think it was great that you done this I think it shows character it is not easy to take this critique but you learn only in this way and he was very nice never knew it take time to do this I watching magazine like Dwell and I was wondering how they do this and now I know much more I try in my home and i never liked my photos so in other words more of this that I think make me a better photographer I can watch this over and over absolutely perfect best Video

[@kmo475]

Mike's feedback was more than "subtle nuances", the points he made were spot on and about big mistakes that aren't really up for interpretation or personal taste in architectural photography. In this case the person doing the critique was definitely right.

[@davidsimons6388]

More like this please.

[@markhardycreative]

Hats off to Jared to not only opening himself to this critique but also having to guts to post it. He’s not an architectural photographer, but he’ll be a better overall photographer for opening himself up to this. Mike showed himself as a gentleman and a represented himself and our genre very well. A really great video, thanks Jared and Mike for this.

[@keithshenkin3674]

Agree. I'm training in this genre and it was great to see that Jared demonstrated that it's not so simple!

[@tokyoinpics9346]

I thought it was great too. The only criticism I'd like to add is that Jared doesn't like to crop, which I completely get. The crop/don't crop thing is completely subjective and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, I think it needs to be said that if these pictures were being used to sell his property, then he needs to think about his clients and what they might want/like to see rather than his own aesthetic.

[@NigelSwan]

Agreed. I have watched Mike in a couple if videos on another channel, and I got a TON more out of this than any of those.

[@adamvaz9097]

This guys knows his stuff, learned a lot from his critique.

[@cvbattum]

He's great at explaining it, too. And has a nice voice to listen to.

[@mavfan1]

The "no cropping" is such an unnecessary limitation that no one else will ever care about.

[@charliegrafton9305]

It's a dumb limitation in the age of 40+ megapixel digital cameras and full frame pro sensors, but I sort of "get" it. Jared looks to be late 30s-early 40s, so he probably started seriously shooting stuff in the mid/late 90s while film was still predominant. At that point, he was likely learning from guys who honed their stuff in the 60s and 70s, where cropping was heavily frowned upon ( I mean, variable zooms weren't even really a "big" thing until the late 70s). I'm in a pretty similar boat in having "compose, compose, compose" hammered into my head, especially if you're doing a lot of work with prime lenses and a shallow DOF.

[@ekevanderzee9538]

Especially when the aim / goal of the photographs is not artistic, but it serves another purpose. HDR, fine but crop no?

[@thereddog223]

@@charliegrafton9305 Sometimes it makes sense to crop other times not,but to crop near a window makes it look like you have a light source from nowhere

[@coffeewithalexander]

@mavfan1, you aren't incorrect, however, sometimes imposing limitations on ourselves, challenges us in unique ways that can positively shift our way of viewing a composition. An example might be a decision to not use Photoshop (maybe just on a particular project), but to edit only in Lightroom, C1, etc. So many people say to themselves, "Oh, I'll just fix it in Photoshop." Then, they spend more time editing than shooting. But, that self-imposed limitation changes the way one views their composition. And, there's a chance that the personal challenge might actually make them a better photographer. The key is to not let a self-imposed artistic ideology limit our functional ability or our ability to serve our client. In this case, the client was the masses on Zillow, not the man with the beautiful fro.

[@davebrown3117]

My personal opinion is:- if there is too much crap on the top/bottom/sides of the picture, I will crop if I think the picture needs it. I will also try to correct barrel/pin cushion distortion where I can. I'm not a photoshop/lightroom junkie but I will try to correct distortion due to short/wide lenses. I usually don't apply too much extra correction other than white balance, over-blown highlights and under exposed low-lights, and maybe colour balancing. Unlike Jared, I try to use my camera's inbuilt level display to get a shot reasonably level, whether in OVF or in live view.

[@JonFairhurst]

Things I learned: 1) Straight lines are important. 2) Jared could learn to be less defensive. ;) Seriously. Don’t worry about “being right or okay.” Celebrate the free tips and wisdom from an expert. I learned a lot from the original video and I refined that knowledge with this one. Much appreciated, Jared!

[@memcrew1]

2 was not necessary to list. That’s personal to JP in how it actually impacts him.

[@Olivina330]

Mike Kelley is a patient man during this critique. Regardless of the defensiveness, critiquing is never ever fun and Jared already discussed that he's aware of this shortcoming and I'm grateful that this was posted, I learned a lot

[@patio87]

13:55 the guy laughing at Jared's obsession with not cropping, perfect. He edits the living hell out of his photos but cropping even slightly is a huge no-no.

[@patstevo]

right? I don't get it HEY GUYS SHOOT RAW (but dont crop)

[@maxrshelltrack7443]

If you put what you want in the photo the first time around you don't really have to crop anything unless you happen to change your mind later on all about composition I guess.

[@whatislove3825]

Looks like Jared is out of his element

[@wildwisdomjourneys7221]

Totally out of his element here. Would be more helpful to listeners if Jared just received the critique from the expertise of the architectural photographer.

[@Hackzyyz]

WhatIS Love? Idk if you have seen his other work but seems like he is always out of his element haha

[@thestevewood]

You can hear that he did take offence every now and then. Very defensive as to why he took some of the shots the way he did. But that was the whole point, is the WHY. The WHY is not for information, the WHY if for feeling. So the reason for the photos should be to make the place seem photographically superior, not to relay information.

[@devplace8375]

Yikes There were sharp inhales watching this.... I completely agreed with everything Mike has to say. As for the whole straight lines/distortion: I understand Jared has his norm of not cropping etc, but to not accept this is very important for this type of photography is very....stubborn?? There was a stinky attitude upon receiving criticism which he asked for that came across pretty dismissive & somewhat rude at times. I know Jared is known for his unapologetic attitude & not mincing his words- which I normally really appreciate. But I was just quite surprised by how this *completely correct and well informed and polite* criticism was ill received, shrugged off and argued. Reminds me of when I shoot music and I rock up to the photo pit and the older guy who’s been shooting for decades with four cameras slung over his shoulders looks at me as though to say he knows better & will reject my method without recognising my prior achievements. Watching this was like seeing some kid in school refuse to acknowledge his essay didn’t make sense

[@davidturrall8327]

You're completely right but don't forget that we saw Jared take three quarters of a hour of criticism from someone he respects, effectively in public. We just saw a human reaction. I bet he'd look far calmer if he had been told what the comments were going to be an hour in advance of filming. He was caught off guard. I think that I already replied to another of your comments so sorry if I am repeating myself! :-)

[@waynosfotos]

I don’t think that is true, If it was, he would never of organised the critique nor posted it, He swallowed humble pie and posted it so we can all learn as he did.

[@LuisGarcia-hj1pp]

I think it's just a bad personality trait.. I think Jared actually noted everything Mike said but he just freezes when he feels combated.. why do you think he always flexes on camera lmao.. i think Jared fully respected what he had to say in his on way

[@tommynikon2283]

He THINKS he's a fucking "expert".....and Kelly kicked his ass to the curb- in only ONE genre'. Fro can dish it- but can't take it. EVER. Because that kills his "brand".....Mr. Fucking KNOW it All. N-O-T.

[@afti03]

@@tommynikon2283 yeah, those photos sucked, wtf.....

[@flyingnematode]

Fro looks like he is about to cry, nice critique though... learned a lot

[@grahamjones2759]

I appreciate due to events, that this wasn’t feasible, but it would have been interesting to have both Jared and Mike shoot the apartment independently and then compare the hows and the whys of their photographs. Very interesting video though.

[@AnandSriraman]

Mike has done similar videos with Fstoppers where they shoot the same property and compare.

[@waynosfotos]

That vid would of been twice as long, any it would of been interesting

[@idol031808]

MK shoots high end properties. Asking him to shoot JP’s loft is liking asking Richard Avedon to shoot your mother in law.

[@PhDuh42]

@@AnandSriraman That was a great video.

[@alexandermckay8594]

@@idol031808 But Richard would. You might be amazed at the result.

[@bob6969]

Jared you weren't kidding, you do not do well with criticism. I found his critique to be very informative and spot on. but not only that he was extremely gentle. Excellent video thank you gentlemen.

[@TheIanrobot]

Came to see fros arse get kicked

[@JonathanBondu]

me too, and I wasn't disappointed

[@elram2649]

Cool ending, funny stuff.

[@WrightMindDesigns]

he was hot! lol

[@ka9faxqrp208]

@@Vemovemo1 I guess you missed the part where he was told his photos were 90% better than the average. That’s a lot to say when architectural photography is not his specialty. In other words, he’s very talented to pull this off 90% better than the norm.

[@bradleylau2632]

"Think about how stupid the average person is and then remember that half the people are dumber than that."-best Mike quote.

[@Mike-dm5ut]

Bradley Lau it really is a stupid quote if you think about it and it’s not his quote.

[@derrickkelly4745]

It's a George Carlin quote

[@kipsus]

@@Mike-dm5ut it's actually mathematically accurate. The problem is what you consider "average" is probably biased towards yourself.

[@Mike-dm5ut]

kipsus 😑go pick up a middle school math book and revisit mean median and mode. Your understanding of statistics is non existent. There is no mathematical accuracy in believing that an average is 50/50 when a data set is finite. Human stupidity will fit a non normalized data set just like societal wealth. Majority of people are well below the level of stupid.

[@PhilOsGarage]

@@Mike-dm5ut true, though it's also possible that more than half the people are even more stupid, and there are small quantities of people who are way above, making the average artificially high. In my experience that is probably the most likely.

[@marcomark8]

Love Mike's straight forward honest critic. I've learned a lot. Jared is approaching the shot as an artist. Mike is looking at things as, what is the reality of the architecture.

[@Iceman8723]

Am I the only one extremely surprised Fro doesn’t know how to correct lines in LR? Lol

[@caretakerrr123]

The Iceman or even in Photoshop

[@froknowsphoto]

Guys, I know how to correct lines in lightroom, it's not brain surgery. I don't correct lines, thanks.

[@ktelecominc]

@@froknowsphoto hahahahahahahaha haha, love this comment!! I know but I don't do it.

[@caretakerrr123]

Jared Polin fair enough

[@lyaxedm1825]

he doesent crop :)

[@MarfoogleTV]

So glad you did this, As someone who loves your videos...You are just like the rest of us when it comes to your photography, There is always someone better, and we are constantly changing and learning. Just like your beefy muscles lol, your art needs to be torn down to grow back stronger! It is very hard for us to take constructive criticism without getting defensive and making excuses, Which you did...but I could tell you were absorbing every piece. I personally thought all of the photos were great, But I also dont run a million dollar photography company.

[@travisruskin7133]

Loved this video. He even critiques the placement of the cat.

[@joshuajames972]

Which was a super valid point, the cat wouldve looked better on the couch where it could be seen, not laying on the ground being cut off by the leg of the piano. Obviously Fro man prides himself on taking raw/organic shots...but has no problem using presets! Ahh the hypocrisy! 🤣😂 He just gave them all the same preset, how lazy. He doesn't respect each photo as it's own.

[@davidturrall8327]

Cats are always out to get you, and here is another example: incorrect placement.

[@waynosfotos]

I think this comes down to being aware of everything in the photo, I am not perfect and have had tripod stands in the clip, DOH when I was editing. If the cat is in the photo, make it one of the subject pieces, like on the couch, I see this is good advice. I am surprised that the traffic light in the piano was not mentioned, my eyes kept going to it, “what is this” distracting me from the room, I eventually realised what it was from the other photos, but for someone not with a photographic eye, it would of been whats is on top of this piano??

[@T_Kivinen]

You can buy a cat, you can't decide where the cat will sleep.

[@0741921]

Teemu Kivinen if you believe that then the cats have truly become our masters and us their slaves, lol

[@DanuteP]

Thanks for doing this (and sharing it). Taking criticism is hard, even if you ask for it. My paying job is to review/audit people's work and Mike's approach was great. He was honest but constructive and very informative regard *why* he didn't like something and how to correct it. I don't fault you (Jared) for your slight defensiveness. My work gets re-reviewed all the time by my boss and even though I know (better than anyone) that it is needed, but I still hate it. We are only human.

[@drimer01]

It ain't that fun when you're the one getting criticised.

[@footsy420]

I'm a little twisted that way. I find it exciting. If its good information that can help me improve that is gold.

[@drimer01]

@@footsy420 . Yes critics should be always welcomed and they help improvement. But Fro said he wasn't good at being criticized witch i'm sure some of us can relate with, and no it is not fun and even worse when you get in with the amount of confidence he had a t the beginning (witch he also points at the beginning of the video).

[@wikedwhich1]

I love this video...so funny after his critique so harsh and confident......this is a valid exchange and honest emotionally too...

[@RalphConway]

Mike is absolutely right. Thank you Jared.

[@Itsanthonytalking]

At least he was brutally honest...

[@oasisbeyond]

But, nice too lol.

[@FrankP83]

I think Jared loved too this kind of critique

[@LuigiVN]

He was assertive. Not brutal.

[@uphillracer]

„They’re Custom built!!“ Ok, but the important thing was, what they look like in the photo.

[@BaoNguyen-lx2zr]

I don’t know if it’s just me, but Fro seems like he gets offended when people don’t praise/like/agree his photos. Looking back at his old videos being critiqued he doesn’t seem to handle it well at all. Like he’s an excellent photographer but he a bit too egotistical.

[@MusicPatrolGermany]

I was thinking the same while watching... His reactions were generally not that cool, especially in the end.

[@lukezacharias3245]

I saw that too, but to be fair, he owns it at the beginning saying he's never been good at receiving criticism throughout his life. So, while his reactions may appear cold it's just how he handles it.

[@JohannesLilover]

Yeah

[@Thumpr110]

Most of us don’t exactly enjoy being criticized, to be fair. Especially if it’s something that defines your career.

[@dolwolfianphotography]

Well as we all do, no? 😜

[@Carolyne_games]

I started taking photos seriously when I was working in real estate in Japan, and the thing I realized through experience was vertical lines really are SUPER important (ended up leaving the digital level in my camera on pretty much at all times). I'm glad that it wasn't just my imagination :P

[@DRUmat404]

"It looks like an episode of hoarders" 🤣🤣 my man was killing those custom Ikea shelves!!! Great video tho...

[@rsrbob]

Very informative from all aspects. I appreciate the emotions Jared experienced being critiqued. I also appreciate the incredible detail provided by Mike. Definitely educational and eye opening.

[@Sparxdd]

wow, i watched the whole video, mike handled that critique like a pro. handling jared's temper is exhausting to watch sometimes.

[@froknowsphoto]

wow, you don't know how to read me at all.

[@joshuajames972]

He didnt seem to have a temper at all, he just lacks the humility to listen so instead he was explaining(making excuses) for why he did what he did instead of listening to the very valid points Mike was making. It's hard to receive criticism when you don't see yourself as imperfect.

[@Sparxdd]

​@@froknowsphoto this is true. I enjoyed hearing why you chose an angle, a lens, and how you solved a problem because i would of made a lot of similar choices. however, I personally don't feel like hearing you justify the quality of your furniture over photos. I related a lot to your choices (which surprised me) I'm more interested in hearing how you (a successful business man and seasoned photographer) can take what you already know and combine mike's advice to be a more dynamic photographer.

[@dionysusrex9183]

Jared Polin but you beat me up all the time. Remember?

[@raycavicchiophotography4832]

*Jared's EGO is exhausting to watch sometimes.

[@xjester1975]

Learned so much from this. The level of detail those at the top of their genres bring and how varied photography could be. The devil certainly is in the details.

[@Plaughrey]

Mike Kelly is so thorough and detailed in his analysis! Jarred thank you for being vulnerable and laying your personal work for this critique! Your shots are wonderful and this video is extremely valuable in how to improve an already great architectural/real estate photo and grow as a photographer, expanding your comfort zone! Thanks again for the great content 🙌

[@GermanViking]

It was not boring at all, I made it til the end and I thing that I learn a lot! 🙌🏼

[@cornishblue58]

That was far more interesting than I expected. Jared you are very brave asking for such a critique but it was fascinating listening to Mike, who does such photography for a living, explain how he would have taken the photos. Excellent.

[@creatorsjourney6286]

Jared, I love your humbleness to accept the critique (biting your tongue). I can definitely tell you were getting disappointed but, hung in there. The photos you took look amazing but, Mike is dedicated to this 100% and will notice all of the details you, I and many would miss. You did a lot better than I would have. I have learned that the presentation is greater than the actual photo skill.

[@GrantMatthews]

Amazing attention to detail from Mike...he noticed things and advised things that made total sense in hindsight but until he spoke I thought Jared's work was great and better than the 'good enough' he wanted..learned a lot. Jared definitely made himself vulnerable for our benefit, so thank you for that man..

[@gerrydebruijn5569]

RAW comments by Mike, no BS answers by Jared. Really appreciate Jared putting this out here. Very informational, learned a lot thank you.

[@thejohnnerparty]

@Jared - Sorry for laughing, very insensitive of me, but this is exactly what us mire mortals feel like when we get criticized. Here you are professional being schooled by another professional. In actuality, there is no same in that. After all, that is what he makes his bones on. You, as well, have your strengths. To me, the moral of this story is - none of us know everything. …. One last time - LOL A big thumbs up for having the courage to publish this. ;-)

[@fishpaleryder393]

You can see the fro burning on the inside listening to the best. Good video thoug 👍

[@joaquinnolasco5210]

Love this video. Super educational to see one artisan critique a master. It’s not bashing, it’s a proper critique; definitely took some notes! Thanks Fro and Mike Kelly!

[@onlyonecannoli3952]

Thank you Mike for confirming what we all suspected all along.

[@devplace8375]

42:49 cmon mannnn how can you argue this shot is not hella distorted & looks like you’re about to trip balls. Just...”the line in the middle is the straightest” yess but the rest of the photo is warped and then the “okay.fine.”...just??? Don’t bother taking the criticism then?? What’s the point. Feel disappointed by the attitude in this video to be honest

[@davidturrall8327]

I felt the same way as you at first, but the fact is that Jared is a real live living breathing person with feelings. He said at the start that he's never liked criticism. We got to see him looking uncomfortable for the best part of an hour... BUT he was still brave enough to put it up on his channel. I'm sure he knew exactly how it would look to everyone. So yes definitely he takes criticism badly but he still took it and then shared it with his 1 million+ subscribers. Imagine if he'd just not uploaded the video - we'd never have this conversation but he'd have been even worse at taking criticism! :-)

[@jaredjds2011]

In all honestly I wouldn’t be able to tell if a photo was warped or not. Now if you show me a photo that’s not warped and a photo that is, I think that’s the only way I’d be able to tell. Some people’s eyes just aren’t built to see minor flaws. It’s definitely a struggle.

[@amagnu100]

@@jaredjds2011 Curved walls and lines that are meant to be vertical, look again mate :) most software lets you correct it with one click.

[@DrealRommel]

This took a lot of guts to have home critique your work like this, so I definitely appreciate this video. Good job 👍🏾

[@dirtyfivethirtygarage]

The dude has been a high level professional interior photographer for years. Thinking you could match his years of experience in an afternoon is mildly delusional. Entertaining critique nonetheless. Thanks for the vid, Fro...

[@JonathanBondu]

I can see you didn't enjoy the critique... but thank you for putting yourself on the line. it is comforting to see that even a seasoned photographer has things to learn, and it's very encouraging.

[@DanRaines]

This was a solid video. Putting yourself out there and excepting some feedback makes you human and relatable. Good job!

[@wildmustangart1577]

This made my day. ...and when a high end pro says Crop ... ya crop! Hard to be told you're not not as good as you think. Humility is a good thing. A lot of really good info from Mr. Kelly.

[@cac2244]

Great educational content... I like the collaboration, it pushes everyone to do better. No one is an expert at every aspect of any business.

[@footsy420]

Yes, there are many specialties in photography and if you want to be a pro its good to choose one. For what Jared does it's good to be more of a generalist but he should understand that a jack of all trades is a master of none.

[@wdavecross]

It just goes to show why we are all different in our options. Nice to see the humble side of Jared. He is going up against the best of the best.

[@austintoohey1446]

Thank you for doing this Jared! Was super informational to see Mike critique your work. I definitely learned quite a few things from his critique, so thank you!

[@gergiboy]

No one: KZbinrs in thumbnails: :O :O

[@lyaxedm1825]

LOL

[@EclipseSound]

thats soyboy face - typical of beta males.

[@divil2273]

Fro i think you listened here to reply, instead of listening to understand

[@buckrogers7532]

Takes a strong person to willing allow someone to critique your photos considering you’re a great photographer. A lot of courage, so full respect. I actually learned a lot, especially straight lines, decluttering, light...very educational.

[@NaturalLovePhotography1]

What I would really really like to see is if Mike would reshoot this space and then compare his shot to yours and what he did differently to achieve the results.

[@MDHollingsworth]

Wow, huge respect to you, Jared, for doing this and posting it. For most of the crit, you look like a cat who's being given a bath and yet you still posted this. That's pretty awesome of you to do and share it so other people can also learn when you were clearly not happy getting a crit. Thanks. And cool of Mike to even agree to do this. Asking another pro to give you a crit is a tough line to cross without him just taking the easy way out and saying everything looks good. He took the time and made an effort to give good information: Thanks to both of you.

[@rizz97pl]

This is tremendous...Jared has been killing photographers for years. I love it!! Way to go Mike 🤣😂🤣

[@Rickyp0123]

I know nothing about interior photography, but 22:30 is the most important advice soundbite I’ll remember from this. Very valuable.

[@simianinc]

Geeze, Fro is prickly. The criticisms were valid, and he should humbly accepts them

[@zebical]

@39:48 My fav of the bunch! Loved the video. Mike knew his stuff. That was evident. When he started pointing things out, you could actually see it. Great content Jared.

[@edgarin]

lots of good stuff here. you need a tilt shift lens or crop the wide angle pictures for best results. Composition is another issue. Great stuff!

[@tanvirmahmud9525]

This is probably the only 20+ minute video in KZbin that i have seen completely! It's really great to see true professionals sharing their real life knowledge with us, making us see photos the way they see them. instead of the same old rules that every one keeps on repeating. We need more of these. Great video dude! Cheers!!

[@BobAsbury]

Love you Fro... But the biggest thing I learned from this video is how not to respond to criticism.

[@BobAsbury]

I wanted to follow up because my remark was unnecessarily unkind. I'd like to add the context that it struck me because Jared responded to the criticism EXACTLY the way I do. I'm overly defensive and petulant in the face of criticism when it comes to my photography. When I saw it in him, I recognized it in myself. Now I think it's probably the best thing to listen quietly and thank the critic for doing the hard work of breaching the peace.

[@paulspatafora8793]

Best video from Jared this year! Mike was gentle but very informative. You can tell he's not an MLS photographer but an architectural photographer. He pointed out stuff that most photographers wouldn't see. I definitely would love to see more of this type of video. Also, Capture One has a great Keystone tool to correct the distortion. I would have liked to have seen Mike's version of your photos with his cropping ideas and keystone corrections to see the difference between the two photos. Thanks for letting it all hang out there Jared, it took a lot of balls. Much appreciated.

[@29nightshift]

I love this video. Finally getting served for being a mediocre photographer while pretending to be pro

[@Hackzyyz]

29nightshift for reals dude the only reason I watch his videos is for information on gear but the photography isn’t anything special no soul nothing speaks

[@29nightshift]

Exactly! Very knowledgeable about gear and i watch his news. But he shouldn't be critiquing anyone. Keep your mouth shut fro

[@NigelSwan]

His photojournalist style photos are great. Capturing those moments. It’s only one of many photography aspects, and this highlights that.

[@who2u333]

Mike - photograph a room and communicate a mood and don't necessarily show everything. Us non-professional architectural photographers - showcase the room by showing everything. For me, that was a real gem of knowledge. That and the hypersensitivity to the maintaining verticals. Great video, thanks Jared.

[@chillcopyrightfreemusic]

"There is no ikea sh*t in here!" ~Jared Polin 🤣 Love you channel man

[@jerryrichards8172]

His Attention to detail is fantastic . Just shows why he's so good. If you care it will show in your work no matter what feels you work in.

[@brockman562]

lesson to be told? not every artist (graphic designer, illustrator, photographer, architect, UX designer, fashion designer) is perfect, and there's always something to learn, no matter how good you are. your first stab will always be shit or ok. You also have to start somewhere. I have to agree with Mike, the last photos were the best/heroes. Mike is a badass in architectural/interior photography, but after looking at his 'only' surfing photo, he lacked experience in that department. There were many issues in that one surfing photograph (longboarder in way of surfer dropping in, composition, black and white(why?), why not an in-water or barrel shot?), he coulda taken cues/lessons from seasoned surfing photographers or a Surfer Magazine staff photographer. that shows everyone has to start somewhere.

[@daveandrewssr7025]

Jared, This is one of the best programs you have done - not because you got ripped to shreds, but because you were able, somehow, to show the emotion everyone of us has felt or should feel when trying to expand our world. We learn nothing from the "Gee that's a nice picture" but when some tells us "That is a POS, because..." now, now we can grow. I hope that next week we get to see the revised program on the Architectural photos of your loft. You have made the criticism we all hear a little easier to take. Thank You.

[@scottburrow8293]

Now this is useful information. Thank you!

[@johnminer8374]

Jared, kudos to you for having the balls to do this. It could not have been comfortable shooting this interview and knowing that you would later release this video with criticisms of your own photos. But we all learned from this adventure and got a glimpse of what makes good interior architectural photos. Thanks for this.

[@TheRyanHam]

Is anyone else getting anxiety watching this? 🤣

[@davidhamlin7932]

It's always tense when he talks to other Photographers lol

[@MyLifeWithJ]

Ryan Ham 100% lol

[@360PictureUK]

This is the most informative interior photography video i've seen! Mike points out all the issues i worry about when capturing my properties which reassures me that it's not just me worrying about my verticals. Well done Jared on taking the CC!

[@dennischapin]

There are no photographers that are good at everything, that’s why people specialize in certain areas.

[@AndreasAn]

I highly appreciate Jared for sharing the critique of his own photos. Knowing that his work good at all and a professional architecture photographer critiqued him helpt me to understand, whats the difference between good and professional architectural photos. Thanks buddy!

[@sambochen2010]

"This is a disaster in every way..." 🤣

[@MunirRahool]

It takes GUTS to take in the criticisms of any type from anyone, especially for someone like Jared. But I loved how he listened to Mike, it is educational for all of us I believe. We learn more from making mistakes and I am glad Fro did this session and put it online for us. I do straighten the lines but mostly I skip, I ignored it but I think, I will try to pay extra attention to them.

[@grahamjones2759]

For all those having a go at Jared - yes he is a bit defensive - feel free to post your 10 best photos to Jared and let him critique your photos 1 to 1 just as he did with Mike. Would make great viewing. Any takers?

[@sam-cc6sd]

I would tho. And I don't think I'd be as ballsy because everyone has space to improve.

[@alexmohammadi3828]

Jared does this regularly. Have you never seen his other videos? People send in their own photos and Jared rips them to shreds.

[@frikova]

“Any takers?” Literally every critique video posted by Jared?

[@PhDuh42]

Thanks for going out of your comfort zone and getting a great pro to critique your photos. I'd love to see this as the first in a series entitled, "Educating Fro." It's a series of videos where you go way out of your comfort zone into the many niche genres of photography. It's a win for all of us. We get to learn from the experts and you get to take what you learned and apply some of it to your own work. You may also see your work with fresh eyes.

[@dominicwilkerson]

You handled the CC just as well as everyone who first starts out Real Estate lol... ya didnt.

[@david48737]

Really enjoyed this video. Mike gave incredible advice, I liked hearing his thoughts on composition especially. For those who missed it, 37:45 Mike gives an example of fixing the slanted lines in Lightroom with auto-transform, the difference was instant.

[@joshuajames972]

Lol...Jared cant handle the criticism, this is hilarious! Every point Mike made made sense and are pretty visible for hyper sensitive perspective people. I dont think anybody has ever looked at The Fro as a significant photographer, though he's definitely an entertaining KZbinr. But as they say, those who cant, teach. Apparently he's too pure to crop and use photoshop...lol! I wonder if he would rather take a horse or a car? He literally made no extra effort--by his own admission--and wanted to make it as easy as possible and then thinks its strange he is getting politely ripped for his clear lack of effort & attention. He just thought he could do the minimal and his shots would be great cause thats how he see's himself. He doesn't even understand the principle foundation of photography.... ITS ABOUT THE EMOTION ENVOKED, NOT THE INFORMATION TRYING TO BE PUSHED!

[@enry_iggins_ead]

The 3rd photo was my very favorite of the first 10. I loved the "extra" photos a lot. I loved watching this critique. Mike is gifted with his craft, I was so impressed with his advice!! It felt like I got a free architectural photography lesson! Thank you for this! (I also hate criticism unless it comes with actual advice on how to improve like Mike gives!)

[@ookiemand]

Thank you, I learned a lot too!

[@BucNas7y]

Totally loved how Mike critiqued. From the start he said he struggles with constructive criticism so knowing that I can looked beyond Fro getting defensive and making excuses to enjoy the video. Mike takes the time to make the image perfect and that shows the difference between the pro and the "amateur" with respect in this. Take the time to make it right.

[@korn3701]

Finally a legit critic. Fro gay guy's critic is not educational at all, He just brag about how he do things. But this guy is educational AF.

[@grouchostarx531]

Mike might be a great photographer but that is not the same thing as knowing what people want. He even said, "People _think_ they want that information..." I don't merely _think_ I want that info, I *know* I want that info. He says that Jared didn't need to photograph the whole room, just the feeling of being in the room by tightening the angle? That's interesting because I have been house hunting the last couple of months and I cannot begin to tell you how frustrating it is to see only a *portion* of a room and not the entire room, how it connects to the hallways, etc. Nearly every listing I've looked at has those pictures that capture "the feeling" of the room but don't actually show me the space (where the photographer was literally standing in the middle of the room and took a picture, then edited the photos to have waaaaaay too much clarity), and it is beyond aggravating at this point because the only way to truly get a sense of the space is if I see it in person, which I don't want to do nor do I have the time for (who has the time to personally visit 15+ houses and tour them? I don't!). I want to look at some very wide angle photos of a room like Jared's, get a sense of how that area connects to the other areas, and be done with it. I want to see all of the shelves, the bathtub, etc. because otherwise how will I know the layout of the room? But I guess I'm in the minority, here.

[@Pantheragem]

Leave kitty alone. He's happy there, and anyone with a cat knows that their being happy is the most important thing.

[@alleyeson2594]

Exactly. Kitty is not gonna stay on the couch just because you want to put him there. Getting a cat to stay somewhere you place them is a rare event. 😄❤🐈

[@Gmenpg]

Pantheragem and anyone buying a home doesn’t want the previous owner to have a stinky cat

[@marcelobarchini9406]

Jared! I’ve learned so much with this! Thanks for all the effort in making this content!

[@davidsimons6388]

Sorry for the fashion critic but sleeveless tee-shirt? Didn't those go out in the 80's? 😳

[@poettone]

Hats off to Jared as he took everything in stride and we all know how great he is, we all can learn different techniques for certain things. I loved all the photos, but once certain things were pointed out, I could totally understand. For me, someone who's not even close to a pro, I appreciated this more than I can say.. Jared is my idol and I've been a long time fan and after all is said and done, he has only gained more knowledge into a different genre of photography and he will remember it.. Love you Jared!

[@darlingtoncd]

I'm always interested in looking into different types of photography and one of the best for interior real estate photography is Nathan Cool Photo, here on KZbin.

[@44492611]

Jared has good taste in typewriters. One of the most useful videos I’ve seen on photography in a while.

[@Lofote]

I love how he just doesn't understand that "I don't crop" stubborness of yours :-D I mean, it is about the final picture, the final composition, so use the tools you have, don't just say "I said I don't do this, so I won't" because thats just not giving you the best outcome always. If it can be improved by cropping, do it!

[@froknowsphoto]

I guess you didn’t listen to what I said did you. Go listen again to the whole statement.

[@BryGy]

I loved seeing that I'm not the only one that keeps their Wired magazines!

[@Hathnotseen]

As a real estate photographer myself, your verticals need to be straight, horizontals need to be straight. That's the sign of a pro. Also why I have 3 bubble levels on my tripod setup

[@NightShooter87]

Yes I think you're right. I got critical remarks about it, but you learn from mistakes.

[@Sparkwolf]

If I had known it was Mike Kelley doing the critique, I'd have clicked on this WAY sooner. I love any video with Jared, and doubly so when including Mike. Two of my favorite photographers in one video makes this a must-see, must-revisit video. I thoroughly enjoyed this.

[@peterparkerakaspider-manth2977]

See you don't known everything about taking photos.

[@cycling-john]

In terms of content, I think this is one of the best videos you've done. Kudos!

[@JohannesLilover]

Jared seems as such a crybaby

[@samrafferty11sr]

Bloody enjoyed that. Watching Jared's reaction when Mike was calling some stuff out, you can see Jared's brain ticking over and taking the information on board. This was great. Well done to both guys. 👊🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Thank you.

[@1mpulseS0D]

I love it when Jared critiques other photographers photos, but having Jared being critiqued, oh mama this is great! Keep up the great work Jared!