Response to Ben Davidson

So I put out a debunk video centered on an absurd notion called "The Electric Universe". It pissed off a lot of people, such as a fellow named Ben Davidson, who I had never heard of, but that has a KZbin channel called "Suspicious0bservers" which talks about things sort of tangentially related to this topic. Without any provocation, he took it upon himself to slander me and threaten me by email, before making a ridiculous excuse for a response video countering my debunk. This is my response to his response, because I don't really appreciate being called a fraud, particularly when his response is full of abject nonsense as is his channel in general. Enjoy.
UPDATE: Since this video, I've taken it upon myself to dig a lot deeper and I found out precisely what a con man Ben is. Beyond his fraudulent cash grabs on Kickstarter, he is currently busy building a donor-funded apocalypse camp (literally), which makes him a cult leader. More information on his scams can be found in a more recent video which I highly recommend watching and sharing, since there is no telling what horrors will occur on that camp if it gets built: • SpaceWeatherNews (Susp...
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[@SciManDan]

Oh Dave, now you’ve highlighted this guy I’m going to have to take a bite. Hope you don’t mind?

[@brownwater6212]

My Man Dan 😁

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Haha, by all means be my guest! This whole sub-genre of pseudoscience has been ripe for the picking for some time.

[@neocyen700]

This is going to be interesting! Will be waiting on for your video on this Dan!

[@reubenlyimo]

rip and tear them SciManDan until it is done

[@Forest_Fifer]

Oh yes....

[@conicalreason2981]

Ben: "It's not Electric Universe, It's Plasma Cosmology!!!" "Sir, this is a Wendy's"

[@2ahdcat]

LOL!

[@95TurboSol]

That's actually pretty good lol

[@chrisinglis5631]

Roasted.

[@stickitsignage1877]

Jokes credit to the last podcast on the left guys, still funny though.

[@samuelsmith25]

Lmao

[@baumutsu]

I just unsubscribed from Suspicious Observers because of this video. Thank you Dave. I'm not proud to admit that as a non-scientist, I fell for the razzle -dazzle. I'm embarrassed that I watched his videos regularly for over a year. But I'm glad that someone is here to counter his content with critical thinking because for those of us not well versed in cosmology, his videos are an easy and shiny trap to fall into. I just subscribed to your channel as well, for good measure. Thanks again for the quality content.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

It takes a lot of courage to admit such a thing to oneself. Spread the word, cults are bad!

[@Vashti0825]

I followed him for about a year until I burned out on his word salad and argumentative pod casts. He lives to argue defensively, like an attorney trying to obscure the topic and confuse the listener. His ego is dangerous. I feel for his wife and kids. The listeners are brainwashed

[@AL-YT-comment]

Well done…always challenge and seek evidence (peer reviewed etc etc), be prepared to change. I think the other important step now is asking ‘what is in it for them?’ That is how humans have developed.

[@IloveRumania]

Finally, there's SOMEONE! One out of hundreds...

[@douglasdecker9665]

Ditto! It started becoming clear to me that he seemed like an old school " snake oil salesman", so I began doing research on many of claims, which in part, led me here. Thank you Dave!

[@aeon_zero]

Seeing someone being so utterly steamrolled by reason is truly a spectacle, and we need more of it in this day and age

[@Juiceboxdan72]

I totally agree. Honestly, I suspect we can credit Prof. Dave with the recent death of the flat earth movement. He isn't looking for an argument, it's more like an execution lol

[@Juiceboxdan72]

@@shanescatsandcannabisfarm2965 Lol more views than me? That ain't hard, especially considering the fact that I have never made a video in my life. The MOVEMENT is dead, the people involved are as stupid as they were on day one.

[@josecas9099]

Fatality every time i love it

[@Juiceboxdan72]

What the hell...this idiot's involved with drugs,this "shane the suburban cannabis farmer" or whatever. I have never heard of this, it's fake.

[@ZakisHereNow]

This… this is just fantastic… it’s just burn after burn after burn. I just come back and watch this every now and then just to make my day that much better. Thank you, prof. Dave!

[@melplishka5978]

He’s definitely not a good lawyer either if he’s leaving written threats on your inbox Dave lol. Nothing like leaving DNA evidence at a crime scene lol

[@Viscool8332]

he's literally leaving his ID card at a murder scene. lmao

[@ysc_josh]

I bet that’s why he stopped being a lawyer and started being a con man

[@jana731]

No no, this is the equivalent of leaving a waterproof bag at the crime scene with the passport in it, a already made fingerprint, prime DNA sequences and a description where they can find you.

[@MrJak_]

@@Viscool8332 he is not a lawyer , his wife is ! and he is not threatening anyone as i can see ! Dan is the one that is threatening Ben's followers by saying they are all scientific analphabets.

[@Viscool8332]

@@MrJak_ damn. Calling people stupid is a threat now? Also that guy was DEFINITELY threatening Dan. You appear to be illiterate

[@heroicvillain1]

Am I going to believe a man who helped me pass chemistry or a man who said the word "asteroid prejudice"

[@jerimiehall]

I love how he paused after saying "I'm gonna write a book" waiting for the laughs that never came. 🤣😂

[@brandonwerner5508]

Think for yourself

[@jtwee6590]

i loved his conjecture that lightning bolts would cause craters of that size!

[@Nixeu42]

@@shellback ...Did you hear a whooshing noise as the point flew right over your head? If not, might want to get your ears checked. HeroicVillain is saying he sides with his ex-chem teacher Dave, my guy.

[@spybird5870]

@@brandonwerner5508 yeah that's exactly what teachers should tell their students - and then walk out of the class. easy money.

[@TheGuavaLord]

Professor Dave, if you’ve touched a nerve, you’re doing something right. Keep on speaking the truth and spreading the light of science!

[@HaloChief62]

I feel like this sentiment holds for all pseudoscience. If followers respond negatively to established facts, chances are it's a poorly held together theory!

[@TheLuckierbruh]

You have a stack of likes!

[@TheLuckierbruh]

@@mithras666 what??? I was saying he had stack(64) of like

[@shinethief3785]

All hail science.

[@16rumpole]

@@shinethief3785 It should be all hail science and not pseudoscience.

[@granodiorite9032]

"Yes hello officer, I would like to report a murder."

[@stevekotzen6155]

Exactly my thoughts.......

[@scaladeUK]

@@Deriv801 wow, the comments on that video you linked are fucking embarrassing. what a pathetic bunch you all are. the fucking nerve of accusing people who correctly understand and use science as 'dogmatic' and 'blindly following their religion'... while you all put your faith in smarmy conspiracists and fraudsters, that regularly and consistently prove themselves to be morons. fascinating, if not fucking irritating.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Deriv, actually watch this video. If you have even a shred of intellectual integrity.

[@carlbrowning8409]

It was a mercy killing lol

[@isadoraalvarez5572]

‘I think we can let this one slide’

[@itheuserfirst3186]

He even argues like a lawyer. Obfuscate, attack the character of the target, and threaten with action.

[@renzezekieldivida3014]

Nice

[@skipfred]

Well.. he is a lawyer, lol. That's like saying a duck walks like a duck.

[@marcusvergara6193]

@@skipfred yeah, that’s why it says “He even”.

[@pedroaugustocosta2533]

To be fair he probably is great lawyer.

[@PhoenixTwoFiftySix]

@@skipfred Wtf is your name

[@michaelsaylor5014]

There was a time i was travelling down the conspiracy path. Thanks to you along with a few others I was pulled from intellectual disaster

[@mikkifly]

Welcome back sir

[@christinearmington]

You may also want to consider the work of Dr. Keith Strong, an actual rocket scientist.

[@kinzieconrad105]

So you are stuck at human as bad we kill planet! That’s some good critical thinking you got going on.

[@fitchmultz]

Critical thinking isn't for everyone. I'm glad to see you gave it up.

[@flargarbason1740]

Welcome to the side of reason! Obviously you shouldn’t believe everything, but trying to go against what countless scientists around the world all know and have proven is insane. I’m glad you had an open mind instead of plugging your ears and going “Lalalala” like many others. You gave me some hope for humanity

[@adilsongoliveira]

Every time someone says "mainstream science" you know you will need to warm up your hands because facepalm ensues.

[@MrJdcirbo]

There is such a thing as mainstream science. It's just "mainstream" because the models fit the data as best as anyone can tell, and everyone who has actually studied these models and work in the fields they pertain to accept them. "Fringe" science is "Fringe" because it's almost entirely bullshit.

[@haithamelatrache1231]

correction!, we should warm up our faces instead

[@robot_spider]

@@MrJdcirbo We just cut out the middle-man: "Mainstream science" is just called "science". And "fringe science" is just called "bullshit".

[@MrJdcirbo]

@@robot_spider yup

[@kinzieconrad105]

Yes this guy is not sitting or debunking squat. All I hear is I debunked but no info to back up the debunk!

[@byrnemeister2008]

These “electric universe” people really need this debunking. Your no nonsense approach is totally awesome and entertaining.

[@girthyearth6436]

That's Plasma Cosmology, dumbass. Rekt. Gottem.

[@nmlss62]

Proof,...?

[@fuzean1]

Prof anthony L perrat hyphotesis was wrong?? Your thoughts, just curious

[@Blitterbug]

@@nmlss62 Just so we're clear - extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. The entire scientific community don't need to prove jack, they have a consensus arrived by decades of observations, flecking hard math, hypothesis testing & correlation of results, and general blood sweat and tears.

[@DamonMacready]

Funny how Ben Davidson writes to Dave "How long before some psycho online does something stupid?" I'm reading a psycho doing something stupid right now!

[@polite_as_fuck]

That’s exactly what I was thinking. Reading his emails was awfully telling.

[@tomwallen7271]

"This is a nice family you got here. It'd be a real shame if something bad happened to them repeatedly with a baseball bat."

[@n8rtotplayz647]

That is a fair assessment. Ben doesn’t have a great handle on his temper.

[@rosskstar]

I enjoy Ben's videos. There's a slice of value in there as he's calling attention to our sun's ability to nova recurrently while you'll never hear about that on MM. He does tend to remind me of the self-proclaimed expert chartists on Fintwit. They too tend to be highly opinionated, cocksure and yes, easily offended. Start a channel, get a few followers and watch your ego grow to new heights. There seems to be a ready crop of sycophants willing to fall in behind whoever yells the loudest. But that doesn't mean you can't learn something from them. "The fear of Jehovah is the beginning of wisdom" but that's quite rare so i'm willing to wade through the hubris to accumulate information and i can make my own mind up as the prophetic word trumps them all. Read 2 Peter 3 - the nova is coming...it's the perfect way to neutralize all the radioactive and chemical pollution on our planet...then we'll get to enjoy a "re-creation" Matt 19 28 JWlearnORG what u can, while u can as Jehovah is bringing this system down around us as i type. You will soon wake up to a new, horrible reality as we enter "a great tribulation" the world has never seen the likes of...run to Jehovah.

[@khiemgom]

@@rosskstar WTF dude. "The Sun does not have enough mass to explode as a supernova. Instead, when it runs out of hydrogen in the core in approximately 5 billion years, core hydrogen fusion will stop and there will be nothing to prevent the core from contracting. The release of gravitational potential energy causes the luminosity of the star to increase, ending the main sequence phase and leading the star to expand over the next billion years: first into a subgiant, and then into a red giant. The heating due to gravitational contraction will also lead to hydrogen fusion in a shell just outside the core, where unfused hydrogen remains, contributing to the increased luminosity, which will eventually reach more than 1000 times its present luminosity. As a red giant, the Sun will grow so large that it will engulf Mercury, Venus, and probably Earth, reaching about 0.75AU. The Sun will spend around a billion years as a red-giant branch star and lose around a third of its mass." Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun#Structure_and_fusion

[@dennisrio]

I have watched Ben for 2 years everyday without waiver and I was unaware Ben was not a Scientist.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

I'm glad this opened your eyes, but watch this one too just to really drive it home: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZe3fY2Keqpqo7c

[@The_Epicness9000]

Welcome home.

[@joshuajenkins9415]

I’ve been watching him since about December. I thought something was up…. Thanks for this breakdown.

[@sleepyalexa]

@@greggstrasser5791 Science students do these things called experiments and testing. They prove what they learn for themselves, because they have the ability to think critically. They make predictions, calculations and collect data themselves. Something none of Ben's viewers (or others like him) are capable of. Instead, they get brainwashed and repeat the same nonsense to feel special and oppose the majority, because doing that requires no actual knowledge of science. So who's really "trainable"?

[@sleepyalexa]

@@greggstrasser5791 You're right, he's an attorney. Not a scientist or anyone even remotely qualified to talk about the things he does. Thank you for further proving my point.

[@Balthazar228]

Ben Davidson seems to be suffering from an accute case of HOVIND-19

[@user-jy3tr1rv8v]

😆🤣😂😆🤣😂

[@gingie78]

Beware of this terrible disease. It can be catching but generally moderate brain function will usually provide immunity!

[@tobiaszczarnota7879]

Kent and Ben really should make out.

[@blindwatchmaker2345]

Kent E. Hovind, inmate #06452-017

[@DK-tv6rk]

And Sentient Simeon too

[@paulcoffield2102]

A qualification in economics and a lawyer ... so a soul-sucking financial black hole then? Good to know.

[@autobotstarscream765]

Or a professional con artist.

[@guytheincognito4186]

@@autobotstarscream765 Both inregards to this guy lol

[@stevekotzen6155]

After todays smackdown, i had to join your membership. Keep it up

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

haha thanks!

[@MarkAhlquist]

We as a species need to invest more into education, and less into warfare.

[@autobotstarscream765]

Problem: warfare is the mother of most scientific discovery, so the two aren't so easily separated.

[@MarkAhlquist]

@@autobotstarscream765 Nope

[@roberrplatt4214]

Also birth control. In easy open packages.

[@frechjo]

@@autobotstarscream765 «warfare is the mother of most scientific discovery» No, no, NO. That's a terrible inaccurate myth. There are many reasons to see how that's completely false. 1st: war (and conflict in general) promotes secrecy, secrecy is a barrier to knowledge. Peace promotes sharing and collaboration, sharing and collaboration are fertilizers for knowledge. All culture and science build on top of collective knowledge. 2nd: research takes resources, in the form of funding, material access to equipment or materials, and human work. Resources are finite. During war, war related research is prioritized. Finite resources mean other kinds of research are underfunded. 3rd: war destroys human life, material resources, and create terrible conditions, under which people is more concerned about individual survival than about education and research. Try making progress under heavy bombings. And hope you or your notes survive long enough so that your progress isn't completely lost anyway. What actually happens, is that political interests prioritize R&D in subjects of immediate application to war. In time, some of that progress can be adapted to civil interest of other kinds. Later, people assume that somehow, progress was made thanks to war. The conclusion is absurd, and does not follow from the premise. If you prioritize R&D on fields of direct civil interest, you'll make as much progress in general, and you won't need to adapt the technology, so in the end it's a gain in efficiency.

[@S3Mi87]

@@autobotstarscream765 "warfare is the mother of most scientific discovery" - NO, the reason why there is considerably a lot of technological progress during war is because during war countries put WAY MORE FUNDS into research. It's the funding that provides progress not war.

[@FrankHarrison12]

"I have no friends. I have no hobbies" ... yep.. sounds about right.

[@lostfan5054]

Another good take down, Prof. Dave! I have a question about contracting the consensus. You often mention that dweebs dont have the requisite training to comment on specific things (Casey Luskin is a Geologist, not a Biologist, Ben Davidson is a lawyer, not an astrophysicist, etc) and you even mentioned that YOU are a chemist, not a physicist/biologist/etc. but that you focus on sharing the consensus of these fields, not challenging it or introducing new hypotheses. That makes sense, and we are all better off for your work (ive learned a LOT from your many serieses here! Thank you!!) But i guess my question is: Is there any room in the science community for challenges to consensus from "laypeople", as it were? Could a professional accountant (who just loves chemistry or something) be the guy who stumbled upon something crazy and game-changing while screwing around in his free time? Has the consensus ever been significantly shifted as a result of the findings of someone who DIDN'T have the requisite credentials to challenge the field? I have another question but imma do it in a separate comment so i have an excuse to tip you a couple more bucks. Thanks!!

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Not really. People who do not study a field will not advance that field. It’s not the 1700s anymore, we know too much.

[@TekaDon]

Those threats are disturbing. I’d probably consider getting law enforcement involved if it progresses.

[@ryanfuller4401]

"I'm not some pinball playing beta Male bitch" LOL wut.

[@christinearmington]

Don’t understand why he’s so triggered. He’s been going off on people for unimaginable reasons since 2012. He started out his channel pretty mellow, and there was a happy little community that chatted amongst themselves. Then, for whatever reason, he wanted fewer commenters and started ripping into people who had followed him a long time. The attacks on other channels were vicious and meaningless. He’s definitely a high IQ individual, but he often misinterprets or mis-contextualizes to suit his point. I gave up fact checking long ago.

[@BroncoJosh]

@@christinearmington Really? Sounds like a total asshole.

[@jenstenboom]

@ཏྦཱལ་ག་པོ། x = i. Easy ;)

[@VitaMoonshadowOLD]

@@ryanfuller4401 sounds like billie mitchel

[@LordDavidVader]

The best bit is where he brags in his email that "I don't have friends", huh, I wonder why?

[@bryandepaepe5984]

The Dunning-Kruger types never fail at providing a gargantuan SMH moment.

[@jonovens7974]

@@mithras666 Did you miss the bit about PC not matching reality ? - I know reality is a bitch, but ignoring it just makes people look stupid.

[@apartofyou2375]

@@mithras666 please go on and look for follow up publications of plasma cosmology ... Just because something is published does not mean it will be the best approach in explaining something forever. This is just one of the many times, that a scientific idea did not match the observations after better observations were made. I am a scientist and I would never turn down a working explanation for something observable. Well until it is not matching my observation. Actually throwing away hypothesis that don't match observations is kind of the main part of my work.

[@roberrplatt4214]

"Electric Universe" - Eddy Grant's lesser-known hit single.

[@JGM0JGM]

Lol, this comment needs more love! kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKWznGh_iseXfpI

[@torbayfruitsandjackpots1678]

🎶 "i don't wanna dance, dance with Ben no more" 🎶 😂 😂 😂 😂

[@16rumpole]

we got to rock down to the electric universe and then we take it higher.

[@HeathWatts]

People who claim that they are experts in chemistry, biology, physics, or the geosciences have no idea how vast those fields are.

[@Matt_10203]

You’d be lucky to be an expert in one of you devoted your life to it - never mind an expert in multiple. These guys are all charlatans.

[@HeathWatts]

@@Matt_10203 Exactly. Generally a PhD recipient is an expert in a very small portion of a field not an entire field.

[@anand.suralkar]

@@HeathWatts true

[@anand.suralkar]

@@HeathWatts even einstein is not expert in physics. He is expert in relativity.

[@HeathWatts]

@@anand.suralkar That’s not quite true. Einstein was an expert in quantum mechanics too. His Nobel Prize was related to that field and he spent much of his late career trying to show that QM is deterministic, rather than probabilistic. He and David Bohm did some interesting work in QM.

[@truckwarrior5944]

"By top paper he means only paper." I spit out coffee laughing when you said that. I should instantly start to frame works I've been part of like this.

[@AshiwiZuni]

I found bens channel when I was like, 18? And got sucked into his rabbithole pretty hard. I started college and actually started studying botany and exploring the subfield of molecular biology, I began to realize how crazy alot of the things he was saying sounded and how he would make claims that he couldnt back. I say this to suggest that he appeals to anyone with a basic highschool education and makes them feel smart, preying on their curiosity. Ive been looking for videos debunking this man, and im glad a few more have come out over the years. He has definitely hurt the scientific community more than most, and doesnt deserve the following he has.

[@The_Epicness9000]

Welcome home.

[@The_Epicness9000]

@@mrburn6119 I don't even know which side of the fence you're on.

[@lucabohn]

@@mrburn6119 you alright? What is your point on studying construction, just genuinely confused. And your question about the mammoth is strange. Mammoth is eating -> dies of something while eating -> body freezes. If you are dead you can’t swallow.

[@supertinyblackhole_8675]

@@mrburn6119 it's "who would've thought", not "would of".

[@pyros6139]

@@mrburn6119 "to be 'educated' in one field does not make you 'an educated person'." Step 1 of conspiratorial thinking: convince people that knowledge doesn't matter. Because if the world around us is real, it turns out it actually makes sense and can be studied by anybody, and not the the CIA or anybody can do anything to change that. Scientific knowledge isn't just something that's handed down to us and we parrot it, that's what you do. We actively study things, and derive our own formulas and explanations. Also, are you a bot?

[@TheOriginalTxcharger]

Damn, that’ll teach me to check my sources better! I’ve been following his channel about a year and a half. Not anymore. I can definitely say that you can hear the ego in his voice in every video. Really glad I found your video before I bought his damn textbook!

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Spread the word! This dude needs to go down hard.

[@danschepper6255]

This is exactly why these debunk videos are important. I’m glad you actually listened to the facts. Good on you friend!

[@NapaCat]

@@ProfessorDaveExplains DOWN WITH BEN DAVIDSON AND HIS CULT!

[@michaelleroi9077]

@@NapaCatBen did worse to Jason at Archaix

[@DopaminedotSeek3rcolonthree]

I commented about how my dad believed this a while ago. I've since realized the effect that being raised in a conspiratorial environment has had on my psychology, and am taking whatever steps I can to distance myself from conspiracy and smash my misconceptions caused by it. I have you and several others to thank for it.

[@masterbootyoshe1805]

Same here that’s all I’ve heard to the point where I thought it was fact and everybody thought it too I love ppl like Dave who debunk all the bs

[@onefodderunit]

It's much better being a coincidence theorist who believes level is curved.

[@allan_archie]

I'm way in too deep into the Prof. Dave rabbit hole, been binging on these videos. It's fun to hear all the outlandish stuff he debunks.

[@DeanJohnson67]

911: What's the nature of the emergency ? Me: Professor Dave just murdered Ben and just for fun he revived him so he could do it again!

[@darkdrgn000]

Dave is almost public enemy number one due to amount of people he has murdered with these videos.

[@handhdhd6522]

Haaaa, Dave shitting on pseudoscientists, lemme get my popcorn

[@Kalumbatsch]

911: "What's the nature of the emergency?" "Professor Dave is shooting idiots in a barrel."

[@joerodriguez3475]

@@handhdhd6522 there is no such thing as pseudoscientist just morons think they areand I'm going to get me some popcorn in a chair to, 😀😀😀😀👍

[@Flyingdutchy33]

In all seriousness though, if you believe the official story of 9/11 you might be more insane than Ben is...

[@DG-uh8uv]

I just came across this video, I know it’s two years old but I wanted to comment on it. About 11 years ago I began watching SuspiciousObserver videos about the sun. Ben was very different back then, his insane ego was not the one making the videos. The videos would present things about the sun and its activity and that was pretty much it. It was extremely interesting. I’ve always loved science especially cosmology but I am in no way educated in the field. Recently while watching a video about the sun on a channel called dutchsinse (first time looking at this channel. BTW, 10 years ago there was a rift between him and SuspiciousObservers similar to yours but Ben was the victim…now the victim has become the victimizer) and I realized I hadn’t seen it in at least eight years so I decided to check it out. Holy crap! I cannot believe how different the channel is and how belligerent Ben is. Even the way Ben looks is very hard and cold, not sure how else to describe it. I was not just disappointed but VERY disturbed by what his channel has become. Ben’s rhetoric, body language and speech is very cultish. According to him we are (almost) all doomed (he apparently knows what place in the United States will be safe when the cataclysm occurs) and his rhetoric consists of a lot of fear mongering. It felt like a very uncomfortable space. And from the comments, his subscribers seem a bit radical and extreme. I think it started out as Ben posting a channel about something he was interested in and has somehow turned into a cultish type of rhetoric channel. I’m sorry that you’ve been subjected to this. I will definitely be viewing your channel in the future. I’m glad I found it. Thank you for the work that you do to put out your videos.

[@jeffg6924]

I'm with you. I've been watching that channel from the first 800 subs. Its so sad to see what he's become. In the military I was trained in Psychological Operations and have been working in the space industry for the past 20 years. I'm harden against these types of tactics in influence, but as you can see so many aren't. What I fear is that he might become dangerous to those that decide to follow him.

[@paulotlc]

Just ended subscription to his app and KZbin channel after seeing that letter!!

[@Juiceboxdan72]

Nice! He seems to be a terrible person, behind the scenes.

[@lazyrrr2411]

@@Juiceboxdan72 Ben can be a little "unstable" & as a former "suspicious observer" , ℹ would call his subs his Minions

[@350speedfreak]

I’ve followed him on KZbin for a few years. Something made me question him to look up more on him. Found this. He seems very defensive and angry. A sign of someone hiding something.

[@heatherb.4302]

Ben's arrogant posts just consists of him throwing out big words in a fast clip and it then becomes gospel to the minions.

[@billybats270]

Davidson is a proper charlatan, he owned a youtube marketing company which artificially created likes, subs, comments and you name it, all bots this should give you a clear foundation of what this man truly is. He is a self proclaimed scientist with absolutely no background knowledge and understanding in science whatsoever. He is a nobody desperately wanting to be known as somebody because he is a total fail in real life. That's right a failed lawyer who could only manage to be a receptionist and answering phones Ben intellectually bankrupted, without possessing an ounce of integrity due to being a total laughing stock decided to make a fake name for himself on youtube using daddys freemasonic money. In the hope he will make up for the disgrace he was in school and at home. Ben desperately needed to make a name for himself plagiarizing everyone with credibility and joining science circles with the hope of associating himself with big named scientists and respected independent researchers that he can gain some sort of reputation without actually doing anything or understanding the fields of information he pillaged. The 'peer-reviewed' nonsense he continues to parade himself with are all an attempt to gain credibility using professionals and plagiarizing and paraphrasing everything he could get his grubby hands on wrapping in total bullshit to hood-wink as many as possible. Buy the ultimate fraud was to come where he creating a Phone App using kick-starter to successfully/fraudulently ripp off $100,000 from fools who took this man on face value as some sort of amazing 'wizz-kid' instead of a modern day true snake-oil charlatan salesman. Ben is an angry man with narcissistic, sociopath tendencies its a wonder he can turn on a computer without stabbing himself. It is worth noting that Ben reads a scrip that is provided for him by his handlers. He is a creation and disinformation agent of a much higher string pulling organization. He was well known for his Pedo-buss driving around to 'teach' kiddies about his stolen discoveries miss-represented by such a despicable psychopathic liar. He then purchased several youtube media services to promote his nonsense, where he would interview himself to promote himself to establish a false persona, it is truly a sick story on so many levels. His aim is to take credible groundbreaking science discoveries and wrap it with complete garbage and burning these discoveries for good. His Electric Universe platform was part of a huge disinformation project and it should have woken everyone one up to what is really going on behind these pathetic youtube sellouts/deceivers.

[@karina833]

Professor Ben Davidson, another graduate of Dunning Kruger University who joins other luminaries such as Professors Nathan Oakley and Quantum Eraser of the flat earth community and Professor Kent Hovind of the Young Earth Creationists Society.

[@munstrumridcully]

"Professor" Kent Hovind got his degree from a diploma mill.

[@s4rg380]

@@munstrumridcully no, no, no, it was devinely bestowed...

[@joerodriguez3475]

Wow that is really funny whole bunch of scientists oops professors and not one brain between them.

[@joerodriguez3475]

Want to bend site or channel he's definitely a he has no idea what he's talking about oh yes Dave if anything ever happens to you the FBI will come looking for him. I read it that is a positive threat.

[@quantumeraser345]

I have nothing to do with flat earth so stop spreading lies about me. The universe is obviously holographic in nature and essentially dimensionless. Thus the earth is neither flat NOR round. Duh!

[@redwormpiper3354]

"...couldn't pass a high school physics quiz" Prof, I love how it is merely a quiz & not even a test! Zing!!

[@SimberLayek]

I gotta say thank you man, I was starting to fall for some of that EU stuff, and your last video gave me plenty to look into, and I came to the same realization as you did... EU is just as bad a FE~

[@DaWrecka]

I'm not sure I'd agree that EU and FE are as bad as each other... FE is so ridiculous that even laymen who are also idiots can see it's bollocks, such that only the idiots who are pitied by village idiots can swallow it. EU, on the other hand, has a much more respectable and difficult-to-parse appearance - a layman finds it easier to believe and harder to debunk.

[@lucklesspanther1929]

Well done on doing your research man. Always nice to see as opposed to buying into it without fact checking

[@Anonymous-df8it]

Why do you hate the European Union so much? Please explain!

[@SimberLayek]

@@Anonymous-df8it hahaha, that's not what I was talking about... I was talking about Electric Universe lol

[@Anonymous-df8it]

@@SimberLayek That was the joke!

[@WitchidWitchid]

Anytime somebody has to become extremely defensive and also resort to personal attacks and hostile threats when their ideas are challenged its a definite sign of a pseudoscience peddler.

[@anonaki-mt6xb]

You may want to look at the interactions I had with Prof Dave two years ago in this video's comment section. You might scratch your head and wonder. His last comment included 'douchebag' and 'dipshit'. Nonetheless, I maintained a cordial and professional tone throughout.

[@FPSIreland2]

@@anonaki-mt6xbanonaki in the name. It doesn’t matter how cordial you are when you’re an idiot.

[@anonymousrex5207]

Guys like this are why people say 99.99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.

[@gr8sword97]

“Climate change, 9/11, extraterrestrials” I lost my fucking shit lmfao

[@lillianvelez2277]

I feel like this needs to be revisited, because dude is legit building a commune in Colorado now

[@DJCryptoStix]

I feel stupid for being a sub of his..... not anymore. Omg I'm an idiot I did not notice this stuff just interestd In the sun weather.

[@patrikpavlisa8905]

@Ian w16 yes they have

[@DJCryptoStix]

@Kesha Kennon it does thanks

[@pequenoperezoso3743]

@@andrub23 I hope this is sarcasm.

[@jenstenboom]

@@andrub23 'not sure what's going on here, but this isn't even that difficult to figure out', you just said that you have no clue whatsoever as to how to prove it, yet you still state it can be proved very easily. You're a walking example of the average Flat-Earther.

[@l-_ōlVlō_-l]

@@andrub23 Can't wait to see what new conspiracy you believe in the next 4 years or maybe you'll have finally landded on earth.

[@DrZZZee]

9:10 "I don't have friends, I don't have hobbies" - oh I believe you Ben, I believe you.

[@allergicdodo7269]

"Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for the rest of his life. Teach a man to be convincing, and he will think he is smart" -Albert Einstein probably

[@wandasimpson1656]

Thank you Dave. I am sick of biting my tongue around nut jobs who believe nonsense. Rather than actually trying to learn real science they prefer to go with fuzzy feelings that someone on the internet sounds knowledgeable.

[@rickkwitkoski1976]

Don't bite your tongue! And if you don't know how to answer the nut jobs, find someone who does. Like Dave! Another channel you should follow is Dr. Wilson with Debunk the Funk. He began his YT channel JUST BEFORE the declaration of the COVID-19 pandemic and his first few vids are about the anti-vax morass. As LUCK would have it... he has had MORE than enough material and people to debunk as the conspiracy narrative grew and grew. Dr. Wilson is a PhD in molecular biology so he has academic creds PLUS the ability to discern and show and destroy the nonsense of the idiots out there. kzbin.infoabout

[@FluentInFangirl12]

3:31 did... did Ben just say "the illuminati" and show a picture of Selena Gomez???

[@borealfox]

These videos have taught me even more to keep my mouth shut when it comes to objective science, specially physics. Things that these types of people are not sure how to do.

[@scottgarriott3884]

I came here after listening to stuff on what I thought was a very respected channel - "The Diary of a CEO", in this case with guest Dr. Bret Weinstein. The episode was called "The Professor Banned From Speaking Out: "We Need To Start Preparing Before It's Too Late!”" Bret Mentioned some things regarding use of models in science, then contradicted himself and referenced a reliable source - Ben Davidson. I stopped and noticed 3 things about that video: 1. The use of "banned" in the video title 2. his self-contradition re scientific models 3. the video outline lists a host of topics, but most of them comprise the ultra-right wing topics hit-list red flags all... So I stopped the video and went looking for the guy's source - Ben Davidson. I came across this video of yours and feel my questions are now mostly answered .... except for how a Dr. Bret Weinstein would allow himself to be informed by an idiot and how the host of "Diary of a CEO" would fall for him. Thank you for your service!

[@dankwarmouse6248]

I just want to draw attention to this line in the email at 9:14: "I'm 35, have a wife and 3 kids. I have not taken a day off since 2011. I dont have friends. I dont have hobbies. I just grind. I read more than you do. I do more math than you do. I talk to more professors and NASA scientists every day than you do. And I'm not some pinball-playing beta male bitch." He just sounds so credible when he lists off his resume like that.

[@guytheincognito4186]

Yeah, It's such a beta male thing to write. Lol.

[@ruththinkingoutside.707]

🤣.. anyone who needs to say all that (the written equivalent of taking of your T-shirt and thumping you chest, saying ‘hold me back bro’) is clearly over compensating for the inadequacies they can’t acknowledge because he KNOWS he’s up against a far better opponent.. .. it’s funny.. and sadly pathetic 🤪

[@mytigger1957]

As both a lawyer and a science enthusiast, I want to apologize for this gentleman’s arrogance. As arrogance is the only way to explain his claims of “expertise” in so many fields simultaneously. And if I may venture a guess he probably isn’t an expert in the law either.

[@mytigger1957]

@@haydenjardine9178 If he understood the law, he wouldn’t threaten lawsuits against anyone who disagrees with him. Asking questions is not equivalent to critical thinking.

[@mcgunn74]

As a lawyer you should be better at reading. Ben doesn't do the research, he compiles it. He leaves links to all the peer reviewed scientific papers he quotes. Ben doesn't claim to be a scientist. He's an observer of knowledge. You should have another look.

[@antiksur8883]

@@mcgunn74 The papers he misrepresents?

[@LucasIsHereYT]

Even as a middle schooler, I laughed for minutes straight at the absurdity of the claim that friction causes attraction. How is there friction when the two objects aren't touching in the first place?

[@ShizukuSeiji]

Yep, you spotted the loophole in his otherwise really solid argument! :D

[@TheTpointer]

9:16 WTF.. How do you react to something like that. My first thought was going to the police. This man is a maniac.

[@tomfields7240]

Perhaps his state bar association might be interested, and have an opinion.

[@DulceN]

I just came from the ‘debate’ with the black ‘pastor’ who denies there was ever racism in the USA, and wow, just wow…. after a few minutes, my blood started boiling and couldn’t keep watching. There is no debating such a simple minded, basic person. I’m leaving my comment here because comments weren’t allowed in that video.

[@penguinuprighter6231]

Jesse really makes you want to face palm til it hurts.

[@Mitarization]

Hey Dave! Found your channel recently, really enjoying the refutations of pseudoscience you've been putting out given my family's recent descent into some of it (water fluoridation being a bad thing is a big one). I followed your advice on a recent video of yours about vaccines to investigate the sources of information you receive if they are corroborating your previous worldview and tried to find anything I could that might undermine my confidence in your explanations on this channel. The only thing I found was an accusation from Ben or one of his followers in response to this video on Reddit saying that you were deleting comments to make yourself look better. That would concern me if you were removing them for that reason, so I thought I'd ask: have you deleted comments from any videos before, and if so, can you provide some justification for that choice? To be clear, I have no reason to think Ben is in the right, and I support takedowns of pseudoscience like this. I also think your educational work is a wonderful addition to the science education library on KZbin. I'm only asking to be thorough. Thanks!

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Ben uses sock accounts or sends his minions to spam me with comments to create a false narrative, as though we are just two guys in a feud. In actuality, he's a con man and cult leader, and I'm an educated person exposing him, so I do not allow the false narrative to be sewn.

[@PM-si3yj]

I can tell you right now, as someone whose comments keep getting hidden after logging out of his account. If there's any hidden or deleted comments, then it's usually KZbin that's responsible (sadly, one of the only points Ben is right on, and it's not even original). If not, then sometimes it's the person who originally posted the comment. I think Dave only deletes comments if they don't contribute to the conversation in any way, but I would love to see him correct me on that.

[@Mitarization]

That's what I thought but better to ask than assume. Thanks again Dave 😁 hope you're having as good a day as you can with these trolls around

[@83wishmaster]

Ben is a scammer? He may be, maybe... But... Isnt IPCC also a bunch of scammers driven by politics? 😅😅 I can take that prof Dave can debunk Ben, but that doesnt mean the whole subject about the sun and climate change isn't manipulated and controlled by political power...

[@83wishmaster]

If you delete comments.... That's a Red flag for you too. I love when some followers think the comments are deleted because "it doesnt contribute to the discussion" or "inability to communicate" 😅

[@chadfr1013]

Dam son.... If this was high school, the whole cafeteria would be going: "OOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!"

[@cap5575]

Tornadoes, wildfires, wildflowers, duck eggs, a couple shoes, Nikon, tailgates, fiber, Becky from accounting, towels washed with fabric softener, FRENCH PRESSES…

[@AdrienMelody]

😂

[@thetawaves48]

If Ben told his audience that he was not a Trump follower, they would all walk out.

[@lettuceman306]

"Dave doesn't have a degree!! He's not qualified to speak on this either!!!" Actual scientists in the fields he defends, whenever he talks with them: "Yeah lol you got everything right and phrased all the big concepts perfectly"

[@ZeroKage69]

Ben Davidson: *Emails Professor Dave about nonsense* Professor Dave: I'm gonna destroy this man's career.

[@christopherhamilton3621]

They blocked me when I left them a critical note once on the electric universe. I’m thrilled to know you debunked him. Good on you, Dave….

[@andystokes8702]

Is this guy really a lawyer? I find it hard to believe that a real lawyer would make thinly veiled threats of physical violence particularly via e-mail or on KZbin where it will remain for eternity for anybody to access.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Honestly I think he failed at becoming a lawyer too.

[@artifax1407]

I've never heard of Ben Davidson, but if he's a lawyer he ought to recognise the danger of publishing thinly-veiled threats of physical harm.

[@castorcanadensis2806]

​@Raging S It's not much of a law school. It's one of those places where you go when you don't get into a good school. One of my high school chums went to law school there. He wasn't that bright either.

[@mr.klunee4103]

lol the Streisand Effect - responding will probably only make his stupidity even more well known.

[@Forest_Fifer]

Wow, just checked out the comments section in the last video. The butthurt is strong with them.

[@NinjaMonkeyPrime]

It's really odd compared to the flerfs. They actually have less material and creativity.

[@brady5829]

@@NinjaMonkeyPrime Flerfs have religious fervor, electric universe people just watch KZbin videos

[@wishusknight3009]

Same shit, different pile.

[@apartofyou2375]

@@mithras666 tbh everytime I read "esoteric" some utter bullshit follows ...

[@pvt.jamesramirez6249]

The amount of high fiving and shit talking about how Ben “owned” Dave was absolutely hilarious. Also, notice how after Dave’s response, that barely anyone in the comment section replied or said a word. Hmm. I wonder why. 🤔

[@LTech0]

The way you effortlessly burn these pseudoscientists is beautiful, keep it up Dave!

[@thatbodymechanic]

Glad I found your work. Ironically via Suspicious observers via YT algorithms. You verified stuff I had suspicions about. Especially his odd apocalypse cult leaning of late. One word of advice, be careful when not picking dude. I noticed a little in this video(not the science) I love your work. But don't want to see you drawn into the same stuff that others do to make their point more succinct.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Oh you should see my more recent debunk of his whole channel. It's brutal. I put it out around christmas.

[@thatbodymechanic]

@@ProfessorDaveExplains It was the first one of your videos I watched 😊

[@garyfontez5221]

Yeah... I got here via Suspicious Observer. I'm a Wal Thornhill fan, myself.

[@krause907]

I feel enlightened to have been questioned by my brother in turn, finding you in my research about S0 and Ben Davidson. His sales pitch had sucked me in a few years ago as I somehow stumbled upon his channel. I’ll admit I was duped as a casual viewer, as I am not a scientist nor an educated individual on any of these complex subjects. I thank you for revealing him for who he really is. Cheers

[@stevenburas3647]

Me as well. It's always good to hear different sides to anyone on YT. Lawyer and economist screams scam.

[@colapinklink8120]

Yeah, got suspicious after a week of watching his videos, pretty greasy guy. I'm glad I watched his stuff thought, always good to see how people can get duped by shady people.

[@thecrakp0t]

I'm gonna start using "armchair scientist"

[@Voldsgaard66]

look up the "amateurs" meme ;-)

[@fitchmultz]

That's what this channel is. He's "debunking" the other guy yet he has no qualifications himself.

[@gr8sword97]

9:13 “‘Kiddo’ ... I’m 35, have a wife and 3 kids. I have not taken a day off since 2011. I dont have friends. I dont have hobbies. I just grind. I read more than you do. I do more math than you do. I talk to more professors and NASA scientists than you do. And I’m not some pinball-playing beta male bitch.” New copypasta?

[@Chance57]

Absolutely

[@adamcummings20]

Sigma male grindset

[@dollhhousedesires515]

I’m so glad you posted this!!! I was living in fear as he makes it sound so real!

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Oh check out the more recent debunk of his channel I posted around christmas. You'll really see what he truly is.

[@NapaCat]

Plus, he sent me threats via comment for being a big critic of him.

[@jenstenboom]

@@NapaCat don't worry, the dude's just a narcissistic lawyer trying to scare off everyone proving him wrong

[@NapaCat]

@@jenstenboom He's hot air. When you deal with him; as you said, you realize he's nothing but hot air.

[@JMartJr]

"Asteroid prejudice, that's impossible; the obvious answer is lightning prejudice..."

[@draelon]

I feel like all of your videos are the same, just a different subject, as my conversations on FB about mask wear. I have a background in industrial hygiene, occupational & environmental health risk assessment, etc (Bioenvironmental Engineering) and when a bunch of people asked me if a mask will stop you from getting a virus, I pointed to the micron size of a virus vs the filtering capabilities of an N-95. They completely ignored the following part that talked about reducing the spread, stopping droplets from being spread as much, etc... They keep tagging me and trying to get me to support their conspiracy theories, and unfortunately keep getting more and more annoyed that I keep contradicting just about everything they say. It hurts my brain.

[@christinearmington]

Thomas Waldrop Yes.

[@thedude8526]

Industrial Hygienist here. I know exactly how you feel. I do the same and people scoff.

[@AidanNaut0]

Man ill admit i was a bit saddened to see this video. I watched this guy pretty regularly because he tied a daily weather report with solar weather and news updates. If its true he lashed out in this way, ill have to unsubscribe.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Yes, but beyond being so petty, he also truly has no idea what he's talking about. He either can't understand the papers he reads, or he deliberately misrepresents them, or both. Get out of their with your sanity.

[@Muritaipet]

@@ProfessorDaveExplains You need to edit your use of "their".

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Whoopsie

[@enhaxed7839]

@@ProfessorDaveExplains they're they're it's ok now ;)

[@jakejohnson6954]

enhaxed X lmao

[@Forest_Fifer]

Ooh, a lawyer with absolutely no scientific background talking crap about the universe? That sounds familiar *cough* Riley *cough*

[@brainlessspudlogic4875]

Riley was a Solicitors clerk, not a practicing Lawyer. He now sells t-shirts...

[@Forest_Fifer]

@@brainlessspudlogic4875 yeah, Riley isnt a lawyer, but we can *think* of him as a lawyer....

[@uprightfossil6673]

Dude…as an SO for years who was confused by his ramblings, but understood his narrative, I am glad a science channel patron sent me to you. The last fourteen minutes of my life were only missing one thing….your mic drop at the end.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Be sure to check out my other video debunking his entire channel, it's waaaaay more in depth than this and outlines his scams in detail: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZe3fY2Keqpqo7c

[@uprightfossil6673]

@@ProfessorDaveExplains only if you do a mic drop at the end. Lol

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

You could say that. Seriously, it's devastating, give it a watch.

[@eurocalypse]

I followed Ben Davidson and felt betrayed. The channel started many many years ago with space weather news and slowly progress into the fringe science doom. Fact checking his fringe stuff made me leave the channel. I feel so stupid for subscribing to his channel.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Lots of people fell for it. All we can do is try to get as many people out of the cult as we can.

[@theyoten1613]

You did a good thing. Breaking yourself out of a science-denialist cult takes courage and effort, glad to see you here. :)

[@bccsivxx-xxivvii]

Haha, his email says, "I have a college textbook". That reads like he just owns a random book. And then "my student won the national middle school science championship". Well then, guess that settles it. Hard to rebut that accomplishment. I'm very proud of you Ben. Actually no, no I'm not. I'm proud of the student. I'm also worried for the student if you're still in their life. Seriously what the hell is that anyway? Is he talking about the science bowl? Is some kid (that he probably just knows) winning it supposed to give him credibility? Wonder if he puts that on his resume. Also hilarious he cited a 9/11 conspiracy rant in his book. I lol'd at that. You can't make this shit up.

[@itheuserfirst3186]

Honestly, these guys know what they're doing. It's the Alex Jones model. They create a cottage industry profiting from gullible patrons. It's like multilevel marketing. You make money off of books, seminars, conventions, and now KZbin.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Precisely. Actually, Ben tried to buy the EU conference from Thunderbolts and they wouldn't sell, that's why they had a falling out. The guy is money-hungry lying scum.

[@jakejohnson6954]

Thtas crazy.

[@jakejohnson6954]

Apperently i forgot how to spell. Ive been making spelling mistakes all day

[@itheuserfirst3186]

@@ProfessorDaveExplains Interesting. Yeah, to me it's always a question of how much do they believe their own premise, vs. how calculated they are in trying to profit from creating controversy. Sometimes, I think it's both. In the end, it's about finding the sucker that is born every minute. You don't need the mainstream to profit from your ideas. You just need a loyal fanbase willing to show up everytime. It's the same with prosperity preachers. We are living in the golden age of bullshit, not seen since the invention of the printing press. Hell, the printing press launched a whole new sect of Christianity that has had massive global reach, and influence.

[@abhrajitdhar4628]

@@itheuserfirst3186 I agree with what you said

[@Dadutta]

he's just restating Creationism (and Christian Apocalypticism) in scientific-sounding terms

[@PM-ey4si]

While simultaneously decrying both. Ben really is an absolute zero moron with even less than that in sense.

[@raulmontana13]

I unsubscribed to Ben today.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Good move!

[@backstreetfan2887]

that's awesome!

[@San_Vito]

Congrats!

[@raulmontana13]

@@ProfessorDaveExplains Doomsday Cult 2.0 and I felt for it. It is a good one though, he uses pseudo science very well while talking fast. I did fall for it though.

[@flargarbason1740]

Why were you subscribed in the first place?

[@II-of9vw]

I have some questions for those on the forum, including @Professor Dave, though the questions are especially for defenders of Ben Davidson (a.k.a. Suspicious0bservers). The questions are based on the noted portions of the video below: "Discussion with Suspicious Observers (Mirror)", from 26:50 to the end kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYbbeoBsbNanZ5Y After watching that portion of the video, here are the questions to consider: 1) Do you think Ben told the truth when he claimed to have read the paper they're discussing? 2) Do you think Ben actually understood the paper they're discussing? 3) Did Ben use the paper to make a claim, even though that claim contradicts what the paper actually shows? 4) Based on your answers to questions 1 to 3, is Ben Davidson trustworthy when he discusses scientific sources? 5) Based on your answers to questions 1 to 4, do you think it's fair for people involved in science or science communication to say they don't won't formally debate Ben because he's not worth their time? *I'm also curious to hear answers from people, even people who aren't defenders of Ben Davidson. So please feel free to post your answers on this thread.* My answers to the questions are: 1) No 2) No 3) Yes 4) No 5) Yes

[@ShinryuZensen]

9:24 The only plausible response to that mail is totally this simple double sentence: "COME AT ME BRO. DO YOU EVEN FLEX?"

[@boringth]

Ben: You claim EU has no predictions proven correct. I can list dozens. *lists zero predictions*

[@PM-si3yj]

Ben's MO is "I can do this stuff, but I won't list examples. If you ask, I ain't telling you idiots about it." Just look at anyone who asks Ben about details, he flat out refuses to elaborate AND insults the person asking for even asking in the first place.

[@Shy_Spartan]

Damn he chewed him up and spit him out, then stepped on it 😂

[@Satopi3104]

Lawyer here. I don’t know this guy and don’t care to look him up but based on the wiki page you showed, even if he were technically a lawyer, it doesn’t matter. He went to a completely irrelevant law school. It’s the US, lawyers are a dime a dozen and are by no means all equally educated or qualified. I am also intrigued by the description ex-lawyer. Usually you would be described as a non-practicing or retired attorney. I wonder if he got disbarred. I am a bit hurt by the negative comments about lawyers you made and are made in the comments. There are scummy lawyers, for sure, but many of us do what we do because we want to help. We advocate for our clients rights - our job description literally is to help people.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

I didn't disparage lawyers in general, I referred to him as a lawyer negatively because it has nothing to do with the expertise he claims. Also I just said that it makes him good at convincing people of things, which is only bad if you're a liar and con man. Good lawyers get big thumbs up.

[@Satopi3104]

Professor Dave Explains you kind of do though...12:36. You describe how he essentially talks out of his ass, and ask the boys and girls why he can do that and the answer is because he’s a lawyer. Not because he’s a scummy lawyer or a deceptive lawyer, but lawyer, period. I imagine you are going to reply that to take this statement as evidence that you are disparaging all lawyers is a logical fallacy, and sure, you never say explicitly that all lawyers talk complete bullshit about things they know nothing about. But you certainly imply it. I get it, taking jabs at lawyers is a staple of American humor. And plenty of lawyers have done things to warrant scorn. But I don’t know of a profession that gets as much hate as lawyers when the basic premise of the job is a helpful one. Sure, some lawyers choose to defend scum, but that doesn’t make the profession inherently scummy. And even the worst scum of the world deserve a lawyer who will defend them no matter what the scum did. that’s the entire point of due process and the bedrock principle of modern western legal systems. The only other profession I can think of that gets this much hate is investment bankers, but they get hate for what their profession, by it’s very nature, does, which is to manipulate money to make more money. So calling an investment banker greedy or money-driven isn’t an insult - it’s a job description. But calling lawyers bullshitters just because some lawyers bullshit is a bit unfair. I get it, you should punch up or at least sideways, not down, and generally lawyers tend to be better educated and better off than average members of society, so fair game for mockery, I get it. But we do have feelings too and it’s pretty tiring always being the butt of the joke.

[@EddieMullen-xw2my]

Its not so much criminal defense lawyers that cause the overwhelming majority of Americans to despise and hate lawyers. Its also the family law lawyers who relish tearing families apart and engaging in parental alienation, lawyers who are ambulance chasers and sue anyone and everyone and relish destroying people, lawyere who often become corrupt lifetime politicians and so on. Give us a break - most lawyers are scum. And everyone knows it.

[@mtndrew7854]

9:10 - He sent the email at 4:20, so that leads me to believe he hadn't toked up yet and probably immediately regretted sending it after he sparked up and reflected on how horribly hostile it all sounded. OR he pregamed to be well into the high BY 4:20 - and to THAT I would say : THIS IS WHY HE HAS NO FRIENDS.

[@christinearmington]

Mtn Drew Oh, he has friends. Doug Vogt.

[@bamcr1218]

Ben really has a fascination with 420. Most of his daily space weather videos has him signing off at the end “but now, it’s 420am in the new valley of the sun. Eyes open, no fear,be safe everyone”😂😂

[@KrzysztofGrabinski]

I am not a scientist, but I can say that attraction can sometimes create friction :>

[@ohthelushlife]

I hopped on his FB page out of morbid curiosity...as expected, the regular sprinkling of climate deniers, religious types, conspiracy theorists etc. etc.

[@joebedogne3956]

Dave, This comment has little to do with science and a lot to do with Safety. Have you ever read the book the gift of fear? I think everyone should as it will save your life. There is a section where it talks about a businessman that was getting constant threats and he chose to engage and continue to interact with the person giving the threats. It tragically resulted in lose of life. The best way to deal with someone hurling threats of violence online is to do nothing and stop engaging. This Dude is clearly not playing with a full deck. Keep educating us on science and be careful mate.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Well said, and yes, I am not engaging further beyond this response video. He evidently isn't either, as he has been silent since its release, knowing full well how damning it is to him, not wishing to provoke me further.

[@NinjaMonkeyPrime]

It's a decent point. Sad that it needs to be made.

[@Toasty_93]

You make a good point, but if violent and angry people are allowed to keep spreading their lies unopposed just because they're violent and angry, eventually people will start to listen to them more. Calm logic and reason is the antidote to this. We all need rational, educated people to repel them. The best case scenario for a charlatan like this is for people to stop engaging.

[@christinearmington]

Dean Gregory He’s banned for life on Twitter. Could be due to stuff like this.

[@NapaCat]

Ben is the kind of person who when they're supposed to take care of your pets while you're on vacation, they eat all of your food and pickpocket things too.

[@warrencolegrove1]

Asteroid prejudice , my next band name Thank you for all you do,Dave! We need more people like you!

[@twowardrobeswardrobes1536]

I can’t hold a tune or play a note so ‘Asteroid Prejudice’ will just have to be the name of my next Spotify playlist.

[@Molloy244]

I have around 30 years in analytical chemistry labs (as well as actual chemistry qualifications), I am interested in cosmology, astronomy and partical physics, I know enough to know my place in the dunning krueger curve (and it isn't the top) because (in part) of my scientific background in chemistry. I don't even consider myself an expert in my own field (no phd for a start).

[@rustyosgood5667]

Thank you Dave. I don't have the energy or the personality to do what you do but I wish there were more of you out there...

[@truescotsman4103]

electricity does indeed exist in the universe. this doesn't mean the universe runs on electricity.

[@PM-si3yj]

tell that to Mr. 0bserver. See how much he rees from it.

[@NoodleKeeper]

12:32 Dave:Because he is what boys and girls Me: A con man? Dave: A lawyer I was close, right?

[@paulmahoney7619]

I like how when the EU principles are presented the fifth point is so often violated by actual Electric Universe pushers. So far I haven’t been able go find an EU model that doesn’t fall apart as soon as you put in discoveries made after the 1970’s at best, 1920’s at worst.

[@8Xprt]

He's attacked me as well bcuz I asked a question he's a pill pusher he said he used to sell drugs for a drug company. He refers to his viewers as his students lol 🤡really glad to see someone put him in his correct place thx

[@loganredding1621]

Hay Dave. Since you mentioned that the articles which cited his work are not from reputable journals, I have a question. How do you find out if a journal is reputable or not? I’ve already search this up, but I wanna know how you determine it

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

I should really do a video about this. Legitimate journals show up in research databases like PubMed, or at least Google Scholar. If open access it's registered in DOAJ, papers should be reasonably well-cited, etc. It's a good question!

[@loganredding1621]

@@ProfessorDaveExplains If by pubmed you mean going through the NLM catalogue to see if the journal is indexed in Medline, then yeah that’s pretty good. the only thing is that sometimes I find journals like palaeobiology, which do not show up as being indexed in Medline but are published by organizations like Cambridge University press. Which kind of makes me confused on if it’s reputable or not

[@Yourwaifuisntreal]

@@loganredding1621 - A channel by the name of potholer54, has a video titled "Can we trust peer-review papers?" that goes into depth, differentiating various kinds of online journals, from credible journals to predatory, online journals. I definitely recommend checking it out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnrPc6acid1mgcU

[@loganredding1621]

@@Yourwaifuisntreal yes! Thank you

[@jimjam4210]

Dave, this is very revealing, as i had fallen for the channel, watched ben for a while. I was thrown back when i heard you mention his name. It forced me to look deeper. Thank you for unveiling the science behind all this. Threats are not cool, ill be asking him about it on his channel. Im loyal to the science and logic, so i look forward to more of your videos.

[@christinearmington]

I’m sure that went well. 🙃

[@paulharris5451]

Ben has stalked me and attacked me since 2002. He's sent me death threats, threats, and kicked me off chemtrail central in 2009. You're in good company bro!

[@MrTmm97]

“I wrote a textbook…” lmao I can’t believe he actually said that. That’s an ego driven statement if I’ve heard one. At first I thought he said “I’ll write a textbook…” which is still bad, but not quite as much so.

[@codfish1113]

You should do Dutchsinse next! As a former moderator that he then gaslit, feel free to ask me anything.

[@christinearmington]

Old Hag Lugia no, no, please dive further down the rabbit hole. Doug Vogt who has published a timeline including himself and Einstein. Seriously.

[@piscesdreamer1154]

Did dutch ever fake content? To your knowledge?

[@codfish1113]

@@piscesdreamer1154 To my awareness, I don't THINK he did, but knowing the level of crazy he and his fanbase is, lord knows if he actually did or not and left it to the more minute details noone would pick up on. I think he faked his internet being shut off "at random", if anything. I can't prove it, it's just a hunch, but that's what I'm thinking. What else could he find during a live broadcast to throw a fit about if his views are down because noone legitimately cares about him?

[@piscesdreamer1154]

@@codfish1113 Thank you for responding. He has a curious video out about alleged use of DEW in CA. I believe it was said that others caught the 'strange line' but I haven't seen any. I try to keep an open mind, I'm not saying it's fake or that it is indeed a DEW, it's peculiar is all. I'm sorry you had a poor experience with him and or his group, I can't say much about the environment of their community as I don't watch him like that. Love and light ✌❤

[@moniquegebeline4350]

Old Hag Lugia he’s extremely unbalanced and also has zero credentials claiming to make a novel scientific breakthrough of predicting earthquakes