Exposing Discovery Institute Part 5: Günter Bechly Again (Because He’s So Stupid)

[@SapphireScroll]

"Mr. Farina! Here! GO, GO, GO, GO!" will never get old. What an excellent personal coach that guy is

[@celestialsatheist1535]

This needs to be adopted as a meme

[@SapphireScroll]

@@celestialsatheist1535 Indeed

[@undine8750]

YOU DONT DO IT

[@t0mbst0neyt]

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[@SapphireScroll]

​@@t0mbst0neytPoor James saved it on his desktop instead of sending it

[@PoseidonDiver]

The end of the Bill Nye / Ken Ham debate sums up all these debates very well. Bill Nye: If you can give me empirical evidence that god exists, I will change my view point and believe in god. Would you do the same? Ken Ham: Nope, blind faith.

[@memeboi6017]

All of those Young Earth Creationists that are obsessed with this "Me and my Bible" mentality... They all have **** apologetics.

[@IiiiIiiIllIl]

I genuinely view them as terrible people. I genuinely think there isn't a good reason for religion to exist anymore.

[@paddleed6176]

Please don't bring up Nye as example. He's become as bad as these progressives/Christians on evolution.

[@chemicalapparition]

​@@paddleed6176 what exactly has he done?

[@sarahchristine2345]

I’ve actually heard atheists sincerely mention that specific part of that debate as THE moment they realized it was all a scam and were crushed… I heard that from at least 3 different atheists and all were 100% sincere and desperately wanted to believe him but couldn’t after that moment. I’m sure in retrospect he’d like to take that back if he could (cuz I KNOW it did some damage by inadvertently deconstructing former Christians) and answer with something a bit more deceptive and slimy (which is prob why you won’t hear many other famous apologists admitting that today, instead they just pretend as if they have the evidence on their side by lying like Gunter here), but the damage was already done… any objective person who isn’t either a liar or brainwashed by debilitating fear will tell you that moment was checkmate.

[@shassett79]

I'm sorry I can't take any of this seriously because it's not written on a chalkboard.

[@s4uce116]

This comment has made my day.

[@shassett79]

@@s4uce116 I would appreciate your statement, but it's not written on chalkboard, so I can't.

[@philip8498]

​@@shassett79i wrote this entire comment thread including my own comment on a chalkboard. Hope it helps even if you cant see the chalkboard

[@shassett79]

@@philip8498 I can feel the chalkboard in my soul! ❤️

[@Strype13]

"Mr. Farina! Here! GO! GO! GO! GO!"

[@PhDTony_original]

Phenomenal work. These guys are unrepentant liars and frauds attempting to undermine science communication. Your evisceration of them is skilful and entirely warranted. Also, I learn a lot watching your material - thank you.

[@FutureWorldX]

Yay, PhD Tony, nice to see you here. I like the debunks that you do on Flat Earth together with FTFE.

[@PhDTony_original]

@@FutureWorldX Many thanks - you are very kind.

[@matty4612]

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[@Eskalante]

I also like your work with FTFE. I myself am hoping that this type of disinformation never came to my field of study (machine learning and neural networks, I have PhD for dynamic hand gesture recognition algorithm).

[@pagedprawn3760]

One of the best comments in this section

[@jvalfin3359]

Yes! Expose all the frauds. They must be held accountable. A force like them require an equal if not a bigger force to counter them.

[@SNDN_LN]

Greater force for sure. Look up brandolini's law. Also known as the bullshit asymmetry principle.

[@jvalfin3359]

@@SNDN_LN Indeed. At least they should be made uncomfortable. Fraud shouldn't be a valid and enjoyable job.

[@silviu-georgepantelimon1423]

I love these debunkings so much. Not only does Dave destroy these wimpy charlatans, he does it with style and well researched sources.

[@numericalcode]

ID: Some fossils are too similar to tell which ones are ancestral. Also ID: Supposed transitional fossils are never similar enough.

[@AB-80X]

When will the fun ever stop lol.

[@brianbarber5401]

Also ID. These aren’t transitional between species A and species B, because we always put fossils into either A or B, no matter what.

[@SeanMahoneyfitnessandart]

​@@brianbarber5401💯... 🤦🤷🤣

[@vladimirpain3942]

CLUELESS!

[@sarahchristine2345]

🥅➡️🥅⬆️🥅⬅️🥅⤵️🥅⬇️🥅⬅️ 🔁🔁🔁

[@freddan6fly]

The more I hear of creationists lies, the more I realize they argue like flat earthers. Start with the conclusion, ignore any evidence against the conclusion, and claim victory.

[@sparki9085]

There's a reason the venn diagram between the two is a smaller circle almost entirely inside another larger circle

[@TheBastius]

Also known as 'pigeon chess'.

[@deivytrajan]

anti-covid vaxers also use very similar approach. My mom is one and she literally ignored 99% of evidence and just brings out sketchy random posts from unqualified people as definitive proof on how covid is not dangerous, covid vaccines are only harmful

[@00wolfer00]

The flat earthers learned from them after all. Or they would have if they could learn.

[@chadbroski0146]

That's why Dave should make a "10 Challenges for Christians"

[@mikean7074]

"Don't forget the classic Hitler reference even though Christians seem to repeatedly forget that he was one of them." Hitler also dabbled in quite a variety of pagan and cultic practices and believed a variety of wild things, it's hard to put an exact label on his religious beliefs but one thing is certain: even if he was faking the Christianity stuff (as many Christians say), he still was loudly promoting it because he knew it would help his movement.

[@Julian0101]

Yep, hitler was a christian appealing to christianity in his raise to power. And the catholic church even dabbled with his organization in the midst of the holocaust, until they couldnt hide it anymore.

[@dogwalker666]

😅The NTZ party definitely were, It's on the Uniforms.

[@GameTimeWhy]

Yup. Even if he wasn't Germany largely was. They were not an atheist army.

[@enzoarayamorales7220]

Hitler is actually a really good argument against religion of any kind

[@zenon7094]

​@@GameTimeWhyThere was a famous saying in Germany 'There are no atheists in the trenches!'...i do not know exactly where it's from, but that is always true in wartime.

[@thibautklinger5178]

And on the eighth day, Professor dave evolved to debunk creationist nonsense

[@batboylives]

On the 9th day Professor edited the theory of evolution. Only thing that is evolving is the theory of evolution.

[@Pratt_]

​@@batboylivesDI drones spotted lmao

[@fedos]

​@@batboylivesScience is self-updating. The fact that the theory that describes evolution has been tweaked as new evidence is found is a strength. Funny how not a single piece of evidence has been found that casts evolution in doubt, and not a single piece of evidence has been found that supports the claim that an evil wizard created all life.

[@vivisectiondrag]

@@batboylives yeah that's how science works, new information can alter the conclusions made by a theory. unlike dogma.

[@gogudelagaze1585]

I didn't even know about this Discovery Institute and how influential it is until this series. Thanks a lot, Dave! It boggles the mind that such delusional people have any kind of influence...

[@mikotagayuna8494]

One of my favorite fantasies as of late is seeing Dave debating and demolishing every DI figurehead 1v1 like some science Bruce Lee going up the DI office building Game of Death style.

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

4:45 "I have reconstructed this jigsaw puzzle, and clearly see a picture of a suspension bridge, even though I am missing several pieces." Bechley: "No, you are missing pieces, so you can't draw that conclusion. Anyway, it's a picture of bee, because I say so."

[@tonyduncan9852]

It's a perfect failure of deductive reasoning - a product of the Greeks back around 1500 BC. Plato would be cross with these guys.

[@LiverpoolReject]

As someone who was sadly taught this in homeschool, I'm so glad you are exposing them!

[@bathroom_wizard]

Your effort to produce these and not let their lies and underhanded tactics go unchecked is appreciated.

[@scar6073]

Idk why but there's something addicting about these debunking videos. Keep up the good work Prof. Dave!!

[@filipe.sm31]

It's actually a type of confirmation bias and self gloating. We love to see others getting dunked on because it makes us feel smarter or something like that. Even though Dave is right, it's one of the reasons we like it

[@McCarthyJohn100]

I just found his videos after seeing him debunk flat earthers. Now it's the middle of the night and I've watched a whole gang of videos of him shitting on these frauds. I'm all for it.

[@josiahdubree644]

as a pretty disillusioned former christian i appreciate you taking the time to debunk people that use shallow arguments as a weapon to further their agendas. information is a weapon they’re not qualified to handle

[@louisjov]

I've never understood the fundamentalist Christian habit of denying evolution. I was raised very Catholic, and everything I heard growing up was that the church was fine with evolution and the Genesis narrative, because the Genesis narrative is symbolic, and if God made the world in 7 days, how long is a day for God? I'm no longer religious either, but the idea that evolution and Christianity are fundamentally incompatible is just a false narrative

[@VitreousVirtuosa]

@@louisjov I think it would be important to note that, iirc, it was only in the like 1950s that the Catholic Church accepted evolution. And it took them like, 300 years to go "Hey, maybe trying to kill people like Galileo for disagreeing with what was in the bible by proposing heliocentrism was bad." And I would say that in this case, the qualifier Fundamentalist Christianity and Evolution are in fact, fundamentally incompatible.

[@paullange7052]

@@louisjov It does seem to be a mainly US thing. I am religious, but at no point would I deny science and in my personal experiences with church and Sunday school, evolution (in fact any science) was never denied.

[@louisjov]

@@VitreousVirtuosa oh you're absolutely correct about the Catholics being late to the game on all that. That being said, I give them credit for at least seeing the writing on the wall, and being like "yeah that's pretty overwhelming evidence" You're correct in saying that hardcore bible fundamentalists make the reconciling of evolution and Christianity impossible, but when talking to people (especially Christians), we should always specify that it's only incompatible if you take the Bible word for word literally. If we say other forms of Christianity are fundamentally incompatible (something I don't agree with), it just alienates actual Christians that are actually fine with the idea of evolution, and they start to only trust the pseudoscience coming from places like PragerU and the DI, which I'm sure I don't have to explain to you, quickly causes a whole host of other issues

[@louisjov]

@@paullange7052 that's good to hear, someone like you would probably be more effective in convincing other religious people that evolution is in fact actually true, since you share their faith. Dave does a very thorough and factual debunk, but ultimately most people that disagree with him are simply not willing to listen to what he has to say, in part because of their perception of him, and in part because he often makes fun of Christianity as a whole

[@erregete]

New DI Exposed video? Count me in.

[@MM-hi]

Thanks for exposing these complete pieces of garbage, the fact that they're able to delude so many people is just sad to see, keep fighting the good fight Dave!

[@IanBourneMusic]

I suspect that many of those people want to continue to be deluded if it prevents them having to think.

[@Richardj410]

It's nice that you keep pointing out the dishonesty of this group.

[@TheoCrox]

Oh I just love this series! Especially since I didn't know how delusional some people can be before I discovered the Discovery Institute. Keep going Dave, you're doing a great job! Also, embarrassing, how he ended up in this series twice already XD

[@hanifarroisimukhlis5989]

*Delusional Institute, nice one

[@TheoCrox]

@@hanifarroisimukhlis5989 well it ain't wrong, is it? XD

[@seaofenergy2765]

Its not just being delusional, its being willfully disingenuous and peddling disinformation for cash, acting in the interests of big money backers who's activities (obscene greed and wealth extraction) are threatened by an informed, educated populace. Its no coincidence that the right wing are heavily involved in trying to keep people dumb, reactionary, scared and confused.

[@BlueBarrier782]

And now Joe Rogan is having Discovery Institute people on his show . . . That dude is the king of platforming scientific disinformation and misinformation at this point.

[@mjjoe76]

It’s a shame that people think credibly comes from once hosting a show that forced people to eat sheep eyeballs.

[@Nothingseen]

Joe Rogan has been Your Brother's Dumb Friend his entire career, so it's not a surprise that he maintains the exact positions of that guy. Remarkably consistent, but not surprising.

[@davidwatson2399]

@@HH-ru4bj Why do you have a probkem understanding the point.

[@MrGorillafist]

Not surprised in the slightest. Once he started having people like Musk, Shapiro and Peterson on I knew he either didn't give a shit who he promoted or is just dumb as a sack of shit. Whatever the case he's getting paid millions so not going to stop anytime soon 😕

[@ubersheizer5398]

Did you listen to that show? Rogan pushed back pretty hard.

[@syzygy808]

For your headaches dealing with these people.. 😅 My appendix, lack of wisdom teeth, tailbone, nictitating membrane in my eye, jacobsons organ and arrector pilli muscles tell me different.

[@FutureWorldX]

wow, an hour long debunk video. Great work Professor Dave. Also, it would be great to have the DI videos in a new playlist. I really enjoy listening to these debunks and explanations on science and peer review research.

[@Programmable_Rook]

The DI videos are in a playlist, it’s called “Exposing Discovery Institute” on his channel.

[@FutureWorldX]

@@Programmable_Rook interesting, I could only find the ones debunking James Tour, the ones for Flat Earthers and the Discussion playlist.

[@StampyFanSince]

It's impressive how the discovery institute will get so upset over a swear word while also committing horrendous amounts of slander

[@alexmicco]

It’s not like they’re going to let a little cognitive dissonance get in the way

[@alisaurus4224]

It’s all about appearances. Always

[@MrGorillafist]

Since when have Christians fundamentalists ever have a problem with lying? To them it comes as natural as breathing. And like another comment says it's all appearances

[@phantomstarsx9343]

If there's one thing I've learned about these guys, it's not what you say that matters, it's how you say it. Sometimes it's not even that

[@DavisJ-ln6fw]

@@alisaurus4224 And they fail at even that

[@celestialsatheist1535]

Oh yeah professor Dave's best series is back

[@anirban7493]

The other day I saw James Tour was reviewing his recent debate with Dave with an attempt to prove how wrong Dave is. So he brought in an expert who would factcheck Dave, the expert being none other than ....--drumrolls--.. 'Stephen Meyer' 🎉🎉😂. How convinient! A common theme with all the DI clowns is that , whenerver one needs validation, they'd inevitabily just run to the other DI clowns and never an actual expert 🤣 Quite funny if you think about it..

[@lilcuku3256]

It should also be mentioned that the interview took place 7 months before the debate so the title and thumbnail of that video is clickbait

[@anirban7493]

@@lilcuku3256 I'm talking about a video published in Meyer's channel 5 days ago.

[@Mulavi]

They all have god as a mentor and contributing author for all their non-peer reviewed research articles. Expertise through faith and prayer. Imagine the knowledge you would have if you did the same.

[@lilcuku3256]

@@anirban7493 yea I know in meyer vid a text labeled recorded 11/14/22

[@anirban7493]

@@lilcuku3256 I see.

[@DonnieDGaming]

He really cited himself as a source! Just wow. I wish that would have worked in my Lit classes. Paper would have been short. "Cause I said so" , Me, Now

[@rickkwitkoski1976]

Thank you again, Prof Dave. These idiots will never stop lying because that is what they NEED to do in order to maintain their place in their cult.

[@esheppshepard]

and to earn some quatloos

[@ConsciousMigration]

I'm glad someone out there is A. Educated enough on these areas to be able to point out precisely how these charlatans lie about the science. B. Has the time to follow up on all the references that illustrate exactly how they lie about research papers. And C. Is willing to take their time and energy to do this work. It's so important to shine a bright light on their methods, but not everyone is up for the job.

[@earthchan3358]

Part time science communicator, full time fraud exposer. Good job Dave!

[@secularidiot9052]

Eh, other way around. Dave has made far more videos communicating science than he has exposed frauds.

[@talkpopgen]

Hossjer et al. (2021) in Theoretical Biology on the "waiting-time problem" mentioned at 58:16 now has a disclaimer pinned to it that states: "The Journal of Theoretical Biology and its co-Chief Editors do not endorse in any way the ideology of nor reasoning behind the concept of intelligent design. Since the publication of the paper it has now become evident that the authors are connected to a creationist group (although their addresses are given on the paper as departments in bona fide universities). We were unaware of this fact while the paper was being reviewed. Moreover, the keywords ‘‘intelligent design” were added by the authors after the review process during the proofing stage and we were unaware of this action by the authors. We have removed these from the online version of this paper. We believe that intelligent design is not in any way a suitable topic for the Journal of Theoretical Biology."

[@sarahchristine2345]

BAHAHAHAHAHA that’s awesome!!!!

[@sarahchristine2345]

Prof Dave should pin this comment 😂

[@MST3Kfan1]

Bechley literally sourced himself! Lol! Circular reasoning in its purest form! Thank you once again, Professor Dave!

[@benedetta_crln]

When he cited himself i almost cried from laughing too much

[@sarahchristine2345]

That was the BEST 😂😂😂 trust me bro, source ~ me 😆😆😆😆😆

[@wj2036]

The fact that an educated, intelligent, sane person is able to read all that garbage and use it to help teach others, is the closest thing to a miracle ive ever seen.

[@TheWaterMiners]

I like how Dave has completely stopped pulling his punches when exposing these dorks

[@thedragonslayer8132]

Gotta love how Dave wears the same T-Shirt he wore in his Stephen Meyer debunk,except now it's red instead of blue. Coincides since this video is about Meyer again.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Haha didn’t even notice!

[@davidbutler1857]

Dave should have T-shirts made with the face of whoever he is debunking

[@rockmusicvideoreviewer896]

@@davidbutler1857 So the same t shirt each time. with the face of God.

[@davidbutler1857]

@@rockmusicvideoreviewer896 weird

[@fazergazer]

Farina definitely heeded “go go go go” as a cheer, and continues to eviscerate the German Joker!😂

[@yajy4501]

Your videos have taught me so ridiculously much about so many topics. Let me take a minute to thank you on behalf of all your viewers. I know this takes a lot of work but it makes a huge difference for us without expertise. 👍👍👍

[@kemicalhazard8770]

Finally! Nothing better than exposing liars and learning at the same time

[@TheOmegagoldfish]

It is a great irony that no intelligence designed the arguments for intelligent design.

[@chriscasperson5927]

I hear the phrase "Hey, everyone." is forbidden at the DI as they collectively soil their drawers every time they hear it.

[@for_fox_aches]

This dropped right as I got on the train for an hour long ride. Made my day.

[@mwperk02]

Soaked toilet paper has more integrity than these creationists.

[@budd2nd]

I would amend your comment, good as it already is. So that it now reads, “Vomit,soaked toilet paper has more integrity than these creationists. “ Lol just so it covers the revulsion aspect of their continued verbal diarrhoea.

[@mwperk02]

I wonder who sent a reply to my op? It seems to have been removed.

[@budd2nd]

@@mwperk02 Can you not see my original reply to you then?

[@mwperk02]

@@budd2nd nope. I can only see that there is a reply there.

[@budd2nd]

@@mwperk02 Oh okay, I'll repost it then . Reposted comment - I would amend your comment, good as it already is. So that it now reads, “Vomit,soaked toilet paper has more integrity than these creationists. “ Lol just so it covers the revulsion aspect of their continued verbal diarrhoea.

[@MrMattSax]

You are doing humanity’s work. Keep at it!

[@erykmozejko3329]

An couple of images come to mind which would make relevant Memes. Someone from DI sitting by a large jigsaw puzzle of the crucifixion with a few unfinished patches and yet they are stating “I have absolutely no idea what this picture could be, there’s some pieces missing!” Or same scene but the person is trying to hide pieces of the puzzle whilst mashing in pieces from a different puzzle and stating “Look these pieces don’t fit, this whole picture is a lie!”

[@coalsnail9919]

Thanks for your hard work Dave! We need more people like you to call these people what they are: liars and frauds

[@cynaptyc]

"Silly little German guy" says it all Dave! 😂 Love this "tear down " of his attempted tear down! Never would though that an hour lecture could be this entertaining but when you do it, it is!😮😂

[@LAKE_LYNCH_MOB]

The sheer amount of adrenaline that flowed through me when I got the notification for this video

[@kingmenelaus7083]

Your belligerence never ceases to make me laugh. Your Twitter is gold too.

[@natethegreatest1000]

This feels like cheating, all you have to do is find a delusional narcissist, debunk them, then respond to that "debunk," then rinse and repeat. Infinite money glitch lmao

[@bactrosaurus]

But there is some work involved

[@antondovydaitis2261]

​@@bactrosaurusBeats farming rat pelts in the newbie zone.

[@BluStarGalaxy]

Your videos debunking creationists are always great. You are the man! That clip of James Tour is hilarious.

[@SomeRandomDevOpsGuy]

As a physics guy myself, I have no idea what most of these words mean but I love to see you tearing apart pseudo-science and I'm convinced biology nerds will appreciate you not backing off on using the lexicon.

[@innovator3143]

Hey Dave, there's a video where Stephen Meyer and James Tour review the debate and points. Would you be willing to review it?

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

They said they will do 4 so maybe when they are done.

[@secularidiot9052]

​@@ProfessorDaveExplains "How many times do we need to teach you this lesson, old man?!!"

[@memeswithcringe1624]

⁠​⁠@@ProfessorDaveExplainsI’m sure their 4 part review will be very intellectually honest and make a lot of relevant points.

[@StockLampPhoto]

​@@memeswithcringe1624Of course It will, also nothing will be taken out of context and no points will be cut off early

[@celestialsatheist1535]

​@@memeswithcringe1624mission impossible

[@bendfocuspro]

Great job Dave. Keep up the good work!

[@davidbutler1857]

13:00 so glad you nailed this one, because I'd cited the Bowring quote mine back to IDers so many times and had every single major proponent of DI block me as a result over the last decade and a half.

[@MST3Kfan1]

Thanks!

[@trogglemorphtrystopmotion1887]

The gift that keep on giving

[@Mr_Vosakisen]

That smile you have every time you name the people you are about expose always makes me laugh 😂

[@Maladjester]

Can't decide whether Tour looks like a gym coach yelling ONE MORE or a monkey waving his banana and hooting that this is HIS BANANA, NOT YOURS. Either way it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

[@DoctorX101]

Yes, but he would be waving a banana DESIGNED for him!!!!!!111!!ELeventy! REPENT! Now, was it DESIGNED for his hand or, um, well, ah, never mind.

[@thedragonslayer8132]

Here we go,Bechly! Cant wait for Jonathan McLathie.

[@facundotorres175]

What is John's job in the institute?

[@DarkPlaysThings]

​@@facundotorres175Glorified coffee boy

[@Seticzech]

Evolution is incorrect because there are gaps. Creationism is correct because... ancient book said so. Yeah, sounds legit a totally logical.

[@MisterItchy]

Can't wait to get to this one! It's on my notifications but Monday is a very busy day for my chosen KZbinrs!

[@themugwump33]

MR. FARINA, SHOW ME THE PRE-CAMBRIAN ANIMALS!! DRAW THEM ON THE BLACKBOARD!!! I WANT PICTURES WITH ALL THEIR CORRECT ANATOMY!!! DRAW THEM NOW; YOU CAN’T!!!!

[@wooddoc5956]

😅

[@vitex198]

lmfao

[@sarahchristine2345]

“GO GO GO GO!” 😂

[@Jsingle911]

Fresh Dave. Glad to be here.

[@jaemyncole6257]

Just wanted to say I love your videos and I am currently using your vids to learn astronomy, starting with algebra main cause im awful with math (had a IEP when I was still in school and I hated it) keep up with the debunks and high quality teaching of all sorts of subjects

[@kjmav10135]

I just found you, and when I saw “Discovery Institute,” I thought of my friend, the late Phil Johnson, who, I think, founded it? Not sure, but he was involved. Phil was a law professor at Berkeley, and a vociferous Christian. His goal was to create enough doubt and turmoil in actual science to “drive a wedge” that Jeebus could then slip through. He told me once that you can’t believe in (his version of) the Christian worldview and assent to the evolutionary record at the same time. It had to be one or the other. So, he and his institute went to work making shit up and calling it “Intelligent Design.” He also wanted to come up with other theories about HIV AIDS. Phil was a very kind soul, and very deluded. That’s easy to do when you surround yourself with evangelicals, because their entire psychological makeup depends on delusion.

[@memeboi6017]

The problem with evangelical Christians is their complete rejection of scholasticism and intellectuality in the faith. Basically they *choose* to be idiots. And any evangelical that doesn't choose to reject the MULTIPLE MELINIA OF CHRISTIAN SCHOLARSHIP just ends up reading some books and becomes a more traditional Protestant (Like me).

[@somenameidk5278]

"other theories about HIV AIDS" I think we all know what that means...🤢

[@kjmav10135]

@@dragonmaster1360 He was deluded. I stated that very plainly.

[@chunkycheesemonkey99]

I love that theres an ancient proto turtle named "papa shelly"

[@elsawithginathedreamdragon3952]

😂 this is random and I love it! 🤣❤

[@scottwills8539]

Keep exposing these con-artists. You're the best Professor D!

[@NcxX-c8f]

Minor nitpick around 5:30. You pointed to the Valentia tetrapod tracks (385 mya) when referring to the oldest tetrapod tracks instead of the Poland tracks (390 mya). I double-checked so I know what you meant, but best we not give these guys any ground to stand on.

[@NcxX-c8f]

@@alexiscorral5594 I remember hearing something about that

[@dedalomusic]

Easy way to know someone is right in an argument. When Dave talks about some specific science, I understand 10% of what he says but it's still extremely fascinating and you learn something new every video. When those smugs talk science, everyone can understand them, as like Tour himself said "I speak for illiterate people"

[@preflex3502]

This leaves you vulnerable to the "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit" strategy.

[@Skywarslord]

^ If you don’t understand much of it, it may be wise to watch some tutorials about these concepts, or just generally read up on it.

[@Ewest1224]

Does anyone else find Dave's voice debunking people therapeutic? 😂😅

[@filipe.sm31]

Yes. He could easily be an audio book reader (idk what this profession is called)

[@Ewest1224]

@@filipe.sm31 haha, i agree. On a positive note, he did write a book of his own called "Is this Wi-Fi Organic?" And he also narrated it!

[@filipe.sm31]

@Ewest1224 oh cool. I'll check it out. Thank you

[@Ewest1224]

@@filipe.sm31 no problem! I hope you enjoy it

[@Jkr-ok7om]

I'd like to see Farina's hair get more and more disheveled the more episodes come out to show the stupidity of the people he's exposing.

[@Old52Guy]

Great video! I just wonder who is supposed to do damage control for Bechly.

[@JormunB]

Round Two with Günter? What a pleasant surprise! Knock 'em out again, Dave!

[@donchristie420]

Kent Hovind: hold my near beer😂

[@Crape711]

Hey Dave, this vid just reminded me actually, will you potentially cover the train wreck Joe Rogan episode with Stephen Meyer, or is it too much of a retread of stuff you covered in his OG debunk vid

[@merbst]

Günter was a decent penguin in Adventure Time!

[@lilcuku3256]

And now that name is sadly associated with a lying charlatan

[@mcv2178]

Wak!

[@MrRezillo]

My take on Bechley is that he's not stupid: he's just a blatant liar. Or, as you could say of most creationists: his stupidity is a choice. He wants to believe his nonsense is true, regardless of whether it holds up (which it obviously doesn't). That's got to be a stressful way to live.

[@Angelmou]

He knows pretty much where and why he lies. This is why Bechly sometimes at least tries to be careful in how to formulate sentences, especially to put the dumb audience in a complete false sense of security. The people are sinister by intent. They let their sentences very vague sometimes so that old and young earth creationists can both identify with their authoritative circus performance. Quotemines to say the opposite of the texts by cutting very carefully out the essential part is direct proof of the mean spirited nature. IT is like I would quotemine the bible with "...there is no God" as I would claim the bible would support atheism by cutting out "the fool says..." in front of the quotation.

[@THEJPIndustry]

I love how Dave just decided to see Gunther as a mop..... And just whipes the floor with him

[@SextusHempiryk]

Maybe he sees him as a mop then...

[@CNCmachiningisfun]

The mafia is one of the worst mops in the world ;) .

[@THEJPIndustry]

@@CNCmachiningisfun fixed it ^^

[@tonyduncan9852]

No "h" in "wipes".

[@wyldink1]

I can hear the damage control klaxons going off at the Discovery Institute from here.

[@budd2nd]

Nah they will just change the direction of their arguments and act as if this never happened.

[@wyldink1]

@@budd2nd That is one of their time proven methods of damage control.

[@budd2nd]

@@wyldink1 True 👍

[@nuridenizdurucu1249]

Hey Dave! When's the "GO! GO! GO! GO!" T-shirt coming out 😂

[@Firemalleoandjelly]

51:05 Complexity is the antithesis of good design. A designer is trying to shed as much complexity as possible while still performing said function at maximum efficiency possible.

[@secularidiot9052]

I'm a comp sci major, and if I wanted to duplicate a segment of code, I would write the code out into a function and then just use that function. I would not just copy the entire segment and paste it somewhere else. Sure, it would be more complex, but it would cause unforeseen issues that I would need to iron out. I will always prefer a simple route over a complex one. So for these guys to gawk at the complexity of DNA and say that it must be proof of an intelligent designer makes me laugh a lung out.

[@mr.commonsense]

Great to see Dave again

[@rikkerthindriks3478]

Great work Dave! I know it's dark and lonely work, but someone's gotta do it!

[@josephtnied]

Do you think it could be worth it to make a "Debunking the Discovery Institute without using Science" miniseries? At this point you've definitely amassed enough examples of them lying about their motives, about what other scientists say, about scientific definitions, etc. that a super basic fact-check style breakdown that doesn't rely on scientific knowledge basically at all would be pretty easy.

[@davidbutler1857]

Lord yes, would pay for this.

[@marknieuweboer8099]

Talk Origins had an extensive list of creationist claims.

[@tonyduncan9852]

Good idea.

[@logicoutloud]

You’re the man! ❤

[@Strype13]

RIP Gunter Bechly. Guy never stood a chance. My sincere condolences.

[@wooddoc5956]

Dave, you are amazing. I have an MD/PhD and could never come up with the the variety of explanations that you can. Keep up the good work.

[@djzacmaniac]

Good shit. These videos are important.

[@TroyLeavitt]

Sweet Zombie Jeebus! I love Dave Farina's ongoing obliteration of the DI. So good and so overdue!

[@Stevarious]

Literaly every single Creationist argument: "You don't know everything, which is the same as knowing nothing. Therefore GODDIDIT!"

[@sirB0nes]

I do like the idea that there's this one researcher who keeps using the term "wormworld" to refer to the late Ediacaran, and all the other paleontologists are just rolling their eyes like, "Stop trying to make that a thing, Schiffbauer!"

[@helloraie]

At this point your bingo card should include debating everyone in the Discovery Institute 😂

[@Edgarbopp]

I’m glad you exist and have the time and energy to expose this shit. Wrapping up religious dogma in science phrasing can really confuse non experts into thinking there are two legitimate sides to this debate.

[@MrGorillafist]

Oh boy oh boy oh boy I've been looking forward to this 😁

[@kemicalhazard8770]

After watching this entire video, I am quite astonished. Gunther cited so many works but it was truly trivial to debunk every single one by just... reading it. I don't know what makes me more confused and amazed, the fact that they do it without even hiding it, or that the people who follow them (and themselves) actually fall for it....

[@c.geezer8753]

Thank you, Dave.

[@diemwing]

Gotta love how much ink the DI is spilling over 1 youtuber with 0 PhDs. If I didn't know better I might think that they were a Creationist propaganda outlet instead of the upstanding research institute they obviously are. After all, they never fell off a chair or made a stereotypical italian gesture in a youtube video.

[@JB-xc7mw]

Dave has a big audience and he gets help from real biologists like Dr. Cardinale or Jackson Wheat.

[@KadenSlinker]

Hello Diem Wing

[@diemwing]

@@KadenSlinker fancy seeing you here

[@TirarADeguello]

doesn't all this "millions of years" debate still throw cold water on their 6-10,000 year old age of the earth? I'm confused why the Discovery Institute is even debating it, because, according to their model, none of this even happened?

[@backstreetfan2887]

not all the creationists are young earthers

[@antiksur8883]

​@@backstreetfan2887I would say that the DI are YECs even though they seem to deny it.