Prophecy Remains A Mystery Until It Is FULFILLED

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[@steveaird9347]

I believe in sharing my faith in Jesus buy wearing T shirt with scripture to witness to people and start a conversation

[@Zelda4U]

@@steveaird9347 I agree. The Naked Bible Podcast is so interesting. It’s produced by the past Scholar in Residence of Logos Bible software. There are over 400 podcasts that delve deeply into scripture, to help us understand what it meant to those who lived in the time it was written.

[@titianmom]

Raised the same way as Dr. Heiser and came to the same conclusion as he did long ago. It's a mystery for a reason. God will show us when He is good and ready. 😊

[@konstantinerzyaykin8155]

"All creation groans with expectation when the sons of God to be revealed and until that time the mystery remains intact as the Revelation of Yeshua states: "But in those days when the 7th trumpet begins to sound the mystery of God will be revealed as he anounced to his servants the prophets... Prophesy inbthe Scripture is not for predicting events to happen or set dates BUT TO GLORIFY GOD WHEN IT DOES TAKE PLACE. Very good point brother Mike!

[@jimboyle4934]

Dr. Mike has single-handedly took an eraser to the chalkboard of my biblical understanding and I'm very thankful for it

[@garyg7549]

I'm not surprised that this has happened. This teacher does nothing to help our faith in the scriptures but rather cuts it down and throws it in the fire.

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

@@garyg7549 If your "faith" is chopped and burned to ashes....you better get on your knees and beg God to lead you to the one & only right path.

[@garyg7549]

@@Baltic_Hammer6162 not my faith in God. That doesn't go away right? We're talking about faith in the scriptures. That's what I mentioned above.

[@jessielee8511]

I agree absolutely. He convinced me I don't have to be so damn sure about everything in the bible. Kicked my dogma square in the ass. I'm grateful.

[@truthskr3696]

How does he keep all this knowledge in his brain?!? This man is a genius.

[@mikevanroekel4759]

😂😂😂😂Yep. Fear of God. Reverence is a better way to put it. Truly a gift for a fool like myself. Love this guy.

[@scottmarino7566]

I remember this lecture as a student of ASOT. We love you Dr Mike

[@paulhart1218]

Exactly. I fear there's a good deal of vanity among those who claim to have it all worked out.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Perhaps he’s just projecting his own shortcomings on others (“if i can’t understand, nobody can, and if they do, that proves they don’t and they’re fools!”)

[@tuxcollins2718]

Dr. Michael Heiser passed away on February 14 of 2022 after a battle with aggressive stage four pancreatic cancer. I’m extremely grateful for the teachings of Dr. Heiser. God will bless this wonderful man!

[@chrisfree2000]

He was born Feb 14, he died on Feb 20 2023 6 days after his 60th birthday

[@kellywheatley807]

I miss Dr Heiser and love his method of teaching.

[@robbymacklin]

Perhaps Dr. Heiser should have started at verse 3 of chapter 1. "Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near." Revelation 1:3 This is God's opinion regarding the study of end times prophecy.

[@jeffreyellman5016]

I bring this up to my wife who is uninterested in Bible prophecy, but when she asks why it's so important, I have a hard time answering.

[@robbymacklin]

@@jeffreyellman5016 I enjoy studying prophecy just like I enjoy the rest of the Bible. I hunger for God's Word. "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing comes by the Word of God." It encourages us and builds our faith. This is particularly true when we see all the hundreds of prophecies that Jesus already fulfilled at His first coming. It assures us that He is God, He is faithful, He will fulfill every future prophecy, He can be trusted and relied upon. All of the Bible is a story of the plan of salvation which ultimately culminates in our God redeeming a people unto Himself and establishing an everlasting kingdom that we get to participate in. Also the entire planet will be redeemed and remade. If these things don't give us peace and hope then I don't know what will! The scripture puts it this way..."For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself." Philippians 3:20,21

[@jeffreyellman5016]

@@robbymacklin Thank you for this, my brother in Christ!!

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Clarity from allowing scripture to interpret scripture: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23)

[@CJ-dt5mh]

It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter. Proverbs 25:2 🤓

[@proverbs2522]

Yep. That’s my screen name

[@CJ-dt5mh]

@@proverbs2522 What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come. Acts 21:22 😆

[@CJ-dt5mh]

@@proverbs2522 What then is to be done? They will certainly hear that you have come. (Acts 21:22, ESV) this one translates better, perhaps? haha 😄

[@thestraightroad305]

Love that verse. So good, so deep.

[@Jojoba25]

Ty for the reminder 😊

[@alicenancy3]

Thanks!

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Clarity from allowing scripture to interpret scripture: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23)

[@andrewmarshall7569]

This is so true, and what I've believed for years. In the Revelation of Jesus Christ, my focus is always brought to Revelation 10, which I don't see a lot of discussion on. The "Seven Thunders" and the massive angel that comes down from Heaven and cries to Heaven. We won't know until after any of this happens, but if we are watching, as commanded in Mark 13, we may be able to notice details coming to the surface. We live in such interesting times.

[@jeffreyellman5016]

Again, such a great insight by Dr Heiser. I admit that the more a learn about it, the more I'm clueless. My question is if it's meant to be ambiguous, why is it there in the first place? As a test of some sort? To multiply the glory of God once it's past? To help us understand future events for some reason? All of the above??

[@stevesamson3940]

To multiply the glory of God once it's past? Yes.

[@waywardsoul4918]

The secret things belong to the LORD.

[@imkadosh]

The details are going to be revealed to his people. We are supposed to wait, have patience, cling on God for everything. God is not a professor who will give info. But a father who will inform his children about the trip based on the relationship we have with Him. He will reveal things to his faithful ones. It will be decoded to his people at the right time. Just praise, love him, and dependen on him.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Clarity from allowing scripture to interpret scripture: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23)

[@woewoewoe2262]

Isaac Newton also maintained that the design of God with regard to the prophecies in the Bible was such that they weren’t given in order to gratify men’s curiosities by enabling them to foreknow things, but rather, after they were fulfilled, after the events, they might be interpreted by the event itself and point to God’s divine providence in it all, thus being a convincing argument of God’s hand in the fulfillment of these ancient prophecies.

[@loisthiessen9134]

I'm impressed, inspite of Dr. Heiser's very wise succincts answer, by the thoughtful question by the lady in the audience...wow

[@scottmarino3197]

I recognize and remember this class! Online of course but a student of Asot! Right on first century Israeli mindset! Get better Dr Mike!

[@Israelraj]

Doc you have such dry humour you crack me up. Thank you for your teachings! May God heal you

[@corin777]

I think I'm understanding that you (Michael Heiser) are saying that prophecy remains a mystery until it's passed. But Daniel didn't think that way - he expected the 70 year exile to end. And Jesus didn't think that way - Luke 19:41-44 - the Jews should have at least recognised the times, and were judged because they didn't! Anna and Simeon in Luke 2 knew the times. These times were predicted in Daniel 9. Will we be judged for not knowing prophecy? Or saying it can't be known?

[@robbymacklin]

You make good Biblical points. It is absurd to say that we cannot understand prophecies. If we humble ourselves the Holy Spirit will help us and open our understanding of the scriptures. Jesus corrected the two disciples on the road to Emmaus and said they were "foolish ones and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets had spoken". Our loving God has told us the end from the beginning. He watches over history and His counsel shall stand. He made things clear to Israel so that they could not say.."my graven image has accomplished this". And regarding the abomination of desolation, we have several places in the book of Daniel which speak about it. It's not just Daniel 9. We also have more clarity about the abomination of desolation from Jesus Himself in Matthew 24 and also from Paul in 2 Thessalonians. It seems impossible that Michael Heiser is not aware of these and many other passages. I was listening to the video and just shaking my head in disbelief. Its almost as if he wants to muddy the waters rather than letting the clear words of scripture bring light and clarity.

[@willielee5253]

@I find you both right, discernment informs us by use of God's word.

[@mcgeorgerl]

Just a few points... "exile" is probably not correct as per Jeremiah 25:11, 12 since the 70 years were for servitude to Babylon and applied not only to Jerusalem/Judah but other nations as well. Even the city of Tyre had a 70 year judgment against it. Simeon got the word from the Holy Spirit and was there at the temple "by the Spirit" (Luke 2:25-27). Anna was a "prophetess" (Luke 2:36) so that puts them in different categories altogether. But Mike's view, I believe holds true. If you were shown two baskets of figs, one good and one rotten, would you have known how God used them without the interpretation? Or a boiling pot or almond rod? Or even a virgin birth?

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

@@robbymacklin Christ also warned those in Judah who see the abomination set up in the temple, as Daniel wrote and Paul discussed, to flee to the wilderness/mountains - which is described in Rev 13 as coming to life, talking and having power to punish people to the extreme (artificial intelligence?), which of course never took place no matter how many false teachers (and probably ai bots on yt) pretend otherwise. This proves that Christ expected those who flee (Rev 12.14-17) to know and understand at least this prophetic warning in advance, maybe not every detail about every prophesy, but this one is clear. As it is written by Daniel in the context of these times, knowledge would be increased and the righteous would understand but the wicked would not.

[@djl9154]

Ate the end of Daniel 8, Gabriel characterizes Daniels dream as the vision of evening’s and mornings. So could that mean that the vision has two parts just like the end times. As evening is at the end of day and morning is at the beginning of a day, could Daniels vision apply to what happened at the end of the Roman Empire during the Medival period with a church state system being corrupt, and at the very end of times such as what Johns visions encompassed in Revelation.

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[@tyh3120]

Sir, have you ever thought that the mosque al-Aqsa is the 3 rd Temple? For for 2000 years, all attempts to rebuild the Temple were failed by God, only the Mosque had God’s agreement. Rome will fall like Constantinople, like Jerusalem. The Islamic Calife will sit on the throne of Peter in Rome.

[@timothyramos8350]

Why is the abomination of desolation not when the Jews kept on sacrificing in the temple after Jesus was crucified? Thanks Michael. Love your teaching

[@P.H.888]

The last days of what ⁉️ The old covenant! Acts 3 v 24 done even then! 70 ad judgement ~ YHVH coming in The Clouds ~ The Day Of Adonai!

[@robbymacklin]

@@timothyramos8350 According to Jesus in Matthew 24 the abomination of desolation is that event which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet. See Daniel 11:31 and Daniel 12:11. In Daniel 12:9 we are told that the visions regarding the abomination were for "the time of the end". The end of days, not the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70. We are told in Daniel 12:11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days." The "abomination" is an image which will set up and Jesus said it will be standing in the Holy Place in the temple. Also the antichrist will go into the temple of God and declare himself to be God. 2 Thessalonians 2:4 To sum up... the abomination of desolation is that event which was specifically spoken of by Daniel the prophet according to Jesus.

[@SpotterVideo]

Is the New Covenant found in Daniel chapter 9? Are we supposed to believe the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant. Or, is the covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the many in Matthew 26:28? The 1599 Geneva Bible is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America, before John Darby showed up on our shores. What was the earlier understanding of Daniel 9:27 found below in the notes of the 1599 Geneva Bible? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate. Daniel 9:27 And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles. (b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection. (c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them. ------------------------------------------------ During recent years many New Covenant scholars have examined Daniel chapter 9 from a New Covenant perspective. Did Christ fulfill the summary found in Daniel 9:24? Is it about the New Covenant fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary? Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (These two verses are quoted from Jeremiah 31:31-34.) Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. The death of the Messiah is found in Daniel 9:26, and there are only two possible singular antecedents for the word “he” in the next verse. Those antecedents are either Christ or Titus, who was the prince of the people that destroyed the temple during 70 AD. Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Is the “he” in Daniel 9:27 the “Messiah”, or “the prince” of the people that destroyed the city and the sanctuary in verse 26? If we used “the people of the prince” it would not be a singular “he”. Does the author of the Book of Hebrews connect the New Covenant with the Messiah’s death found in Daniel 9:26, in the verse below? Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. (NKJV) Verse 26 also says the Messiah would be cut off “after” the 69 weeks. If I agree to paint your house “after” 69 weeks, it will not be painted until the 70th week, or after. Is there a “gap” of almost 2,000 years between the 69th week and the 70th week, or was it fulfilled during the first century when the Gospel was preached “first” to the Jews? We know there is a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as the Apostle Paul said in the verse below. Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. Can we find a time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” to Daniel’s people during the first century? If we can, we have good evidence that the 70th week of Daniel has already been fulfilled. Did Christ command His disciples to take the Gospel only to Israel in the passage below? Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Mat 10:7 And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.' Is the time period when the Gospel was preached “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews in the passage above, confirmed in the passage below? Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. In the passage above Luke confirms the fact that the Gospel of Christ was preached throughout the land of Israel after the baptism which John preached. Here again, we have a text which reveals a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as Paul said in Romans 1:16. Bible scholars have looked at the number of Passover celebrations in the Gospels and have estimated Christ’s earthly ministry to have lasted about three and one half years. Was the Gospel taken “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews for a period of about three and one half years during the period of time revealed in the Gospels? In Galatians 1:14-18 Paul reveals he did not go up to see Peter until about 3 years after his conversion. During that time the Gospel continued to be taken almost exclusively to Daniel's people, before Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles. Read the recent book "The 70th Week of Daniel 9 DECODED" by David Wilcoxson for confirmation of the above.

[@christopherwoods6]

Personal information, it reads like the combination to an idiot’s luggage. Until people humble themselves they won’t know. 🤣🤣🤣

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

They chase after false prophets and loony prophesy "watchers' like a the pied piper.

[@dodgyphilisopher9905]

This actually is real to me. I dont even try thinking about how time applies to Daniel to be honest. Prophets avoid future telling for a reason. Probably because it's all Providence and there is no actual future. In the transactional interpretation of Quantum mechanics, time can move in both directions. But in theory, time may just move to the past. In the scripture future is a funny concept if you really think about it. The present moment could be collapsing wave functions, where all possibilities exist in a Quantum reality we can't see, but that could be the thing we call the future. How do I explain? All possible potentials could exist holographically everywhere in superposition, and choice collapses the possibilities into actualities, thus appointed times. As choices are made time moves "past" or "passes" and the present is just a new now, and not some strictly determined future. So in a way, think of the universe actually being both determined and undetermined. All the possibilities are determined, but which choices are made are undetermined until chosen. Obviously systems like laws of physics stay the same and collapse wave functions on their own, but human free will seems to be possible alongside a determined universe. It's just that there would be no future. Because of this, time is less like an arrow and Providence makes more sense to me. Its like appointed times are collapsing wave functions of some elect process, where no matter what happens certain events can be used to get certain outcomes that will always result in the same ending, since there should be, theoretically, infinite possibilities and every mistake could end up used for good. Like the tellingnof Joseph in Genesis. Could be possible he was always gonna end up working for Pharoah, but it just so happened he went the forced slavery route. Appointed times could be similar to potential/possible events coming together rather than unfolding from a predetermined totality. This way not everything is predestined, but certain things can be depending on what doors are open/closed. I think prophecy/Time/Quantum mechanics is more like a Mandelbrot of possibilities becoming reality fractally and in a way that trancends time through Providence. In the proverbs it talks about direction. The gospels clearly want us to walk the narrow path. What if the path is just to make the correct choices. Jesus being the beginning. There was a game called A wolf among us. Very interesting game. You are a detective, and you habe to search for clues, and when tountalk to people you habe multiple choices to effect the dialog. And the game has many endings depending on your choice. I think of it like that, but mixed with chess. Where tou have the laws of chess, the pieces, board certain number of squares, etc. They are like the laws of physics. But then you have the game itself. Like free will. And there are many different games that can be played with many outcomes. But once you move a piece time has passed, and you are in a new now, with infinite variations to how it can end. But what I believe the Scriptures say is, no matter what happens and what path humanity takes, whatever possibilities are created, whaterver variations take place, at the end we know the outcome and its all leading to one ending, because His victory is set in stone. (PS) it's like Jesus and Peter! LORD told Peter the rooster would crow after he denied him 3 times. It was a showing of Providence. What people today who study Jungian psychology call, Synchronicity. But it is really Providence since its the same concept, except the older better explained version. In other words. There are no Coincidences, Gods hand is in all things, whether WE use it for bad or good. He died on the cross. First to rise from the dead.

[@leroybroun4106]

but if you don't understand the prophecy then how would you know that it happened?

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

Hindsight is 20/20. f people or the demons could recognize prophesies happening, then they could react and alter the course of events. That is NOT going to happen.

[@leroybroun4106]

@@Baltic_Hammer6162 sorry, i don't understand. prophecies are given to the God's own people not to demons. see the book of Amos, the majority of his prophecies could be easily understood. as a matter of fact, God hoped they would believe and repent so judgement wouldn't come upon them.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

As it is written by Daniel in the context of the events of the end of the age before Christ comes and splits the Mt of Olives in two when His feet land there (which of course hasn’t happened yet no matter how many false teachers pretend otherwise): knowledge would be increased and the righteous would understand but the wicked will not.

[@leroybroun4106]

@@AllOtherNamesUsed that's right, but you didn't really answer my question. Heiser suggests that we can't understand the text "that when Christ comes He will split the Mt of Olives", so if i can't understand that part of prophecy then how do i know it happened; because if we can't understand prophecy than we can't comprehend what splitting the Mt of Olives means. it was clearly a BS statement by Heiser and should be disregarded.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

@@leroybroun4106 well the answer to the question is so obvious I figured it was rhetorical. I have so many red flags on things Heiser teaches over the years I could weave them into enough tents to solve homelessness world wide.

[@omnikevlar2338]

I struggle than with prophetic words completely if we can’t know the validity of them prior to the results especially if they require an action that is costly. In Matthew 7:15-20 the author claims that by their fruits you will know if they are a false prophet. Am I missing something? It seems Matthew is claiming we can know the validity of a prophetic word prior to the results. We can also say that these prophetic words are highlighting every time it works out and omitting every time it doesn’t. Imagine how many prophesies come true out of a pool of 100,000. If we can’t make a prediction and it’s just results oriented than it doesn’t have value.

[@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER]

You're not missing anything. In fact it's good to bring this up. Prophets used to give signs and demonstrated unbelievably high moral character against all odds. They weren't trusted because of their prophecies, because those would take hundreds of years to be fulfilled. If not thousands, unlike their warnings of coming invasions and plagues. Those weren't prophecies, just heavenly decrees. God saying, hey tell them I'll do this if they won't stop acting up, and doing it sort of thing. Versus, actually speaking of the future. Now contrast that to the Greek oracles. And how they were viewed. I don't think it's a coincidence that that is the same way most Christians view Israelite prophets the same way. Even though the two groups could not be more different.

[@realSeanMcMahon]

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[@omnikevlar2338]

@@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER Ok if we apply this today to the New Testament and we recognize the person bears good spiritual fruits. We should always document what they prophesy and if there’s a date we have a falsifiability scenario and if it’s wrong do we assume that person is a false prophet and can never be trusted? And if there’s no date than at what point do we ever let it go? This is the issue I have we can collect an endless number of prophesies and have no way to tell if they are valid prior to the results even if they bare good fruit. Or do we assume that someone we perceive as Godly that if they give a false prophetic word aren’t saved?

[@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER]

@@omnikevlar2338 read what I said again. Dates have nothing to do with it. And spiritual fruit is only part of the picture.

[@omnikevlar2338]

@@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER Ok I read what you said again so to clarify what is your methodology you would take to verify someone claiming to have a prophetic word today in the church?

[@truthinseason]

I agree: We may not know everything about what prophecy means, but isn’t prophecy cyclical; i.e, in order to know what will happen, must know what did happen?

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Clarity from allowing scripture to interpret scripture: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23)

[@scottthong9274]

In a debate with Michael L Brown, Rabbi Freitag said that if he saw peace for Israel and the Temple being rebuilt then he'd know the real Messiah has come. For Jews like this at least, that's one way the Beast of the End Times could make himself the counterfeit Christ in their eyes.

[@JohnGodwin777]

I think that’s it. This video of Jews being interviewed about what the building of the third temple being built would mean perhaps predicts the nature of coming deception: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWTWmaqobNGlaLs

[@garyg7549]

They will definitely be fooled. But a Remnant will be saved. Keep evangelizing the Lost till our last breath.

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

f people or the demons could recognize prophesies happening, then they could react and alter the course of events. That is NOT going to happen.

[@garyg7549]

@@Baltic_Hammer6162 that's why YOU tell them. That's why YOU explain to them. And that's why YOU lead them to Jesus.

[@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER]

What an antisemitic nonsense view.

[@SOTE_513]

Dr. Heiser -- While I agree with much of what you said in this video, and much of your material in general, (God has given you great knowledge and insight that has blessed me so much) I have to point out that the Abomination of Desolation is not only mentioned in chapter 9 of Daniel, but also in chapter 12. Here's the verse in KJV: "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days." Dan 12:11 Here we see that the abomination that causes desolation will be "set up" (given, made, delivered, set, put etc.). This actually gels quite nicely with the Mark Of The Beast which will be received (or put) in the right hand or the forehead. My personal opinion is that the AOD is the Mark, it is internal, it does deal with the temple of our bodies, and that it's all tied into the transhumanism movement we are seeing today. Literally an A.I. implantation that will offer a counterfeit version of eternal life. That's literally what the tech giants are working on right now. As the Holy Spirit is in us, giving us eternal life, Satan will desire to be in us, giving us a counterfeit version of eternal life. Transhumanism via A.I. implantation, in my opinion, is what the Mark will be, and that is indeed the AOD. But that's besides the point. I may be totally and completely wrong. My reason for responding to this video is because in addressing that lady's question about the AOD and the Mark, you went to Daniel but made it seem like Daniel 9 is the only place that mentions the AOD. Your omission of Daniel 12:11 was what prompted me to write this, as I wondered why this passage would be left out of that discussion. Hope this message finds you well. May the Lord be with us all in spirit and in truth. Edit: Also, Daniel 11:31 mentions the Abomination of Desolation. "And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate." "Place" is that same word from Dan 12:11 that means "put, set, make, deliver" etc. Again, I was just wondering why your discussion of the AOD in Daniel omitted the other verses that talk about it. Yes, all of those passages put together still contain ambiguity, but connecting the AOD with the Mark is not as hopeless as your answer made it seem. These relevant passages in Daniel that you didn't mention could very well add more clarity to the subject.

[@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER]

If you think Israelites, or God, would concern themselves with technology, you've never known God. Tell me, don't you find it strange that scientific knowledge is not present in the Bible? Or a concern for any such other western concepts?

[@SOTE_513]

@@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER If you're saying that our technological pursuit of eternal life via transhumanism is totally benign and has nothing to do with the coming Anti Christ, or the overall schemes of the Devil, then you might be missing a big part of the picture.

[@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER]

@@SOTE_513 "For the mix of clay and iron shall fail" yes. Do you know why? Because it's simply science fiction. Such things are inherently impossible. It's hard coded to be that way. We may live longer due to DNA meddling and cure some diseases like cancer one day, but thats about it. As I paraphrased, it was said that the mingling of the earth and metal will fail. Do you think God lied when he said that? So understand it. God has no concern for any of that. And neither did the ancient Israelite prophets. What did concern them however, was Israel, the kingdom, and morality. As such, you can be certain that if anything, the beast will have something to do with those and nothing else. Do not get so cocky as to commit the abomination of replacement theology. The whole Bible, old and new Testaments, is all about Israel. Us gentiles are fortunate spectators that the Messiah chose to save and incorporate into the Israelite story, nothing more. We are side characters that will help the main character, not take his place. Only at the end of the story shall all characters be equal. Not now.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

@@SOTE_513 The image that comes to life and given power to punish those who disobey the ac system is definitely something to do with artificial intelligence (already being used in similar ways today with law enforcement and the intel community/big tech - EXTENSIVELY - and only growing by leaps and bounds) and transhumanism. I did a two-part vid in 2016 on this subject you may find interesting, based on a college paper I did in 2005 featuring the main article i highlight in the video. Heiser, like all the big names (and even most small), is compromised and helping to divert attention from this massive global agenda and obvious prophetic connections, and would quickly lose his books/films,etc contracts and endorsements if he exposed it, and likely worse.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

AI bots are already dominating online discussions and message boards (including yt and this channel no doubt) as shown years ago in university studies, I'm sure it has only worsened and grown more sophisticated. Here's a message I posted elsewhere: I referred to an idol/abomination or in Hebrew (shiqquts) “detestable thing” used to describe idols/images for instance in Ezekiel (Ezk 5.11, 8.10, 16.36, 20.7, etc). An ‘idol/statue of jealousy’ was also in the temple’s inner north gate by which the Israelites and the leadership committed abominations (Ezk 8.3-6) leading up to the desolation/ruin of the temple and city. Shiqquts is the term used in Daniel 11.31 in the context of defiling the miqdash (sanctuary) which is used to describe the holy place and in 12.11 it is described as being set up after the sacrifices are turned away which also took place in the temple complex (this also shows the temple ministry will be reintroduced, see Temple Institute in Jerusalem for more info on these plans decades in the making with trained Levites ready to go once they find a proper red heifer to begin the process). Rev 13 also describes an image/idol given life and able to speak (artificial intelligence?) and has power to punish those who don’t obey the ac system. This did not take place in 70AD and the 8 woes Christ pronounced in Mat 23 to the leaders of Judea ending with the declaration “your house (temple) is being left to you desolate” did not describe idolatry with an idol/image as any of the reasons for it. We would do well to warn others including those in Israel today of what is coming in what looks like the near future instead of blowing all of these important prophetic warnings off as incomprehensible or already fulfilled thus neutralizing any serious discussion and being left in the dark.

[@paulreuben7343]

God bless you Mike

[@bernardmichaud1099]

The most accurate interpretation of Daniel 9:24-27, in a booklet sold by our church/seminary, by Proff. George B. Fletcher (1971), called "The Millennium, What it is Not and What it Is". There is a PDF of the book, but contains only the first Part, "What it is Not". In the content, Daniel 9:24-27 you will find under section 'D' and 4. The Gap Theory. THE MILLENNIUM--What it is Not by GEORGE B. FLETCHER You might discover that in the last week (70th) follows the (69th) and does not mention a TRIBULATION PERIOD OF 7 YEARS, where most interpreters will use to insert their versions of Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib and Post-Trib RAPTURE. These End Time teachers are in error because they do not understand the proper Structure of the book of Revelation.

[@baronreed8131]

Prophecy is meant more for hindsight than telling the future. It shows us God's plan is unfolding and that He is in control.

[@evantheorthodox740]

A few great books that answer this question: DAY'S OF VENGEANCE by Chilton...... Apocalypse Now by Hanegraaff,,,, He Shall Have Dominion by Gentry.....

[@lufesaro7741]

Also "things to come" by Pentecost

[@evantheorthodox740]

@@lufesaro7741 Pentecost was a premillinarian, dispensationalist,, so I might as well read the Scofield Bible, no thank you.

[@lufesaro7741]

@Evan the Orthodox well I am one too, generally. However, I dont try to be too dogmatic about it, being that we all dont have the full picture yet. I just believe thats the view that generally makes the most sense of the biblical prophecy text that we have. I will say tho, pentecost does do a good job (imo) of teaching the other sides perspectives as well.

[@lufesaro7741]

@@evantheorthodox740 R u an A-millenialist?

[@evantheorthodox740]

@@lufesaro7741 Can you show me using N.T. Scripture where it clearly says that God has 2 distinct plans for 2 distinct people, the Jew/Gentile distinction?

[@cecilspurlockjr.9421]

The putting an end to sin is referring to putting an end to sin withing the kingdom . After the thousand year reign the devil is turned loose once again for the final time . Then comes the most blatantly sinful rebellion in history that will be out down .

[@robbymacklin]

I agree. The 70 weeks are primarily dealing with Israel and Jerusalem. The people of Daniel and their city. It's about bringing in the Kingdom where Jesus will rule on the throne of David. Honestly this whole video left me so grieved in my spirit. Not many should be teachers, for a teacher will be held to a higher accountability before God.

[@cecilspurlockjr.9421]

@@robbymacklin you're correct and these UT platforms are ruining alot of futures my friend .

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Clarity from allowing scripture interpret scripture: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23)

[@konstantinoschristou3701]

Thank you for all. May you be well.

[@SirJericho9]

How do we access the full lectures of these clips, because they are worth more than gold. Thanks to Basil & Gonz I've been a BIG ever since. Keep up the good work brother and blessings to you and your family.

[@tommytom250]

He has a podcast which goes into this level of detail called "Naked Bible Podcast"

[@stevenpina1983]

Just look up lectures of or something similar , of Michael heiser . Look up “unseen realm”. Channel “houseform apologetics” re uploads a lot of his videos too

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

Clips like these are from his college class. I've not found a way to get them without signing up as a student. If you listen to enough lectures and interviews you'll get a good idea what he's saying. This particular one is actually a condensed version of what he's said a number of times. Tons of stuff on KZbin and on his several websites. Plus his books.

[@stevenpina1983]

@@Baltic_Hammer6162 yeah pretty much the same info are re uploaded on “HOUSEFORM APLOGETICS” channel on YT. From Heisers seminars in the past years

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

@@stevenpina1983 Heiser is more prone to going deep on specific topics on his podcasts. Some people complain an hour or 90 minutes of talking with no video is too much. I ignore such whining. If they need to be entertained in 4 minute segments they're not a bit concerned about salvation.

[@markchinski5071]

Bible prophecy is not always simple. There are different kinds of prophecy. Matthew's Gospel is a good place to start (Messianic prophecy) rather than Revelation and Daniel (eschatology -- end time prophecy). Messianic prophecy is easier to understand... because it is intended to be easy to understand.

[@lukewagner8871]

Revelation 10:7 KJVS [7] But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

[@justme1743]

1 Corinthians 15:51-52 Listen, I tell you a MYSTERY: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed- 52in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMPET. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed..... .......... Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the SEVENTH ((Last Trumpet 1 Cor 15:52)) angel, when he is about to sound his trumpet, the MYSTERY of God will be fulfilled, just as He proclaimed to His servants the prophets.”.......... Revelation 11:11-15 But after the three and a half days, the breath of life from God entered the two witnesses, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell upon those who saw them. 12And the witnesses heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud as their enemies watched them. 13And in that hour there was a great earthquake, and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand were killed in the quake, and the rest were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven. 14The second woe has passed. Behold, the third woe is coming shortly. The Seventh Trumpet 15Then the seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and loud voices called out in heaven: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and He will reign forever and ever.”

[@lukewagner8871]

@@justme1743 Revelation 8:13 KJVS And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound! The three woes are linked to the 5-7 trumpets. Did you read a article called Rapture timeline?

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Clarity from allowing scripture to interpret scripture: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23)

[@crisseven1764]

Having a third temple doesn’t conflict with believers being the temple and Jesus will build a new Temple when He returns per Ezekiel 40-48.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Yes, the two are not mutually exclusive, and don’t forget Christ is in the temple in heaven. There is clarity when the bible is allowed to interpret the bible: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23)

[@lindsayball5080]

There'll never be a third temple. Most of revelation happened around 70ad

[@crisseven1764]

@@lindsayball5080 no lol. That is nonsense.

[@lindsayball5080]

​@crisseven1764 Gospel verses that show Jesus came to warn that generation of the impending resurrection and judgement aka Jacob's trouble as the time was fulfilled. ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3:1‭-‬2‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [1] In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judæa, [2] and saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [7] But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [10] And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [12] whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭4:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [17] From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭10:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [7] And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭10:15‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [15] Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭10:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [23] But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭12:32‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [32] And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭12:39‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [39] But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭12:41‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [41] The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here. ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭12:42‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [42] The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here. ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭16:27‭-‬28‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [27] For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. [28] Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭19:28‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [28] And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭21:40‭-‬45‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [40] When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? [41] They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. [42] Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, The same is become the head of the corner: This is the Lord's doing, And it is marvellous in our eyes? [43] Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. [44] And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. [45] And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them. ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:34‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [34] Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭26:64‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [64] Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. ‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:15‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [15] and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. ‭‭Mark‬ ‭12:9‭-‬12‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [9] What shall therefore the lord of the vineyard do? he will come and destroy the husbandmen, and will give the vineyard unto others. [10] And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected Is become the head of the corner: [11] This was the Lord's doing, And it is marvellous in our eyes? [12] And they sought to lay hold on him, but feared the people: for they knew that he had spoken the parable against them: and they left him, and went their way. ‭‭Mark‬ ‭13:30‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [30] Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done. ‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [7] Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? ‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [9] And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. ‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [17] whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable. ‭‭Luke‬ ‭10:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [2] Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest. ‭‭Luke‬ ‭10:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [9] and heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you. ‭‭Luke‬ ‭20:15‭-‬18‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [15] So they cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him. What therefore shall the lord of the vineyard do unto them? [16] He shall come and destroy these husbandmen, and shall give the vineyard to others. And when they heard it, they said, God forbid. [17] And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, The same is become the head of the corner? [18] Whosoever shall fall upon that stone shall be broken; but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. ‭‭Luke‬ ‭21:22‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [22] For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. ‭‭Luke‬ ‭21:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [23] But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. ‭‭Luke‬ ‭23:28‭-‬30‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [28] But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children. [29] For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck. [30] Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us. ‭‭Luke‬ ‭24:21‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [21] But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done. ‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‭-‬25‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [24] Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. [25] Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. ‭‭John‬ ‭9:39‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [39] And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind. ‭‭John‬ ‭12:31‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [31] Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. ‭‭John‬ ‭21:22‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [22] Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. Revelation 20.7 After the thousand years are expired satan must be loosed

[@stompthedragon4010]

I had to stop reading my King James Schofield version. The footnotes made everything so confusing and I found that I could not believe in a pretrib rapture.

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

Reasons like this is why i try to avoid purchasing study bibles. Their authors don't serve to do anything but confuse ppl with their personal theololgy or opinions, and they're often very wrong.

[@ChrisMusante]

I wish I could speak to the woman who asked the question because she is dead nuts on!! We are - as being alive - 'hosts' of ALL the spirits of God... being in control of them is another matter. This is why Jesus spoke of the 1 spirit leaving the house and then it returning with 7 others. We got the whole mess upside down. I can't wait get the hell out of here, first thing I'll do when I see Mikey is chew him out for not returning my emails. Jesus will have to wait. Few (any?) can grasp what has be revealed to me - and Mikey was my only 'professional' hope. 😔

[@lukewagner8871]

1 Corinthians 2:9-16 KJVS [9] But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. [10] But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. [11] For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. [12] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. [13] Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. [14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. [15] But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. [16] For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

[@danielochoa1678]

First of all, the book of Daniel is sealed until the end, meaning someone can put the pieces together. You also said you look at prophecy the way it happened the first time. Let’s look at how it happened the first time, there was prophecy when and where Jesus would be born, but the only ones who figured it out were the wise men.

[@chrislabrec]

Totally agree. Of course not everyone’s theories are correct. But to say that nobody understands and gets it right doesn’t make sense. I’m not saying that we can know every little detail with precision. But I’m saying in large part the plans of God can be known because God intentionally reveals them. Whether we want to believe them or correct certain parts of our theology that contradicts them is another story.

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

Revelation 5 states very clearly the one and only who can remove the seals, and its nobody on earth.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Indeed, Revelation gives us a preview as Christ opened the seals as recorded by John who saw these things in the spirit on the Day of the Lord. _..none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand._ (Dan 12.10) Let us pray for more insight and understanding in these times of great deception and expose the enemies of the Lord who want to conceal what He has revealed. _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18)

[@mcgeorgerl]

Actually, those guys who showed up in Jerusalem were looking for a king and they originally showed up in the wrong place. Also, they weren't the only ones who had figured it out. When Herrod pressed the priesthood as to where the birth would occur, the priests quoted the prophet Micah and gave 'Bethlehem" as the birthplace to Herrod.

[@waywardsoul4918]

Show me the prophecy of which you speak.

[@markthomas36]

The father knows full well that Satan can read and would know the scriptures intimately so it makes sense for him to show us the future via hindsight prophecy. If we all knew exactly what was coming and when, so would Satan, I’m sure that the Father enjoys having him wondering what is next.

[@stompthedragon4010]

Good point

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

As Heiser has pointed out in the past, all the Messiah prophesies are/were vague and disjointed, spread throughout Scripture. The purpose was to keep the evil one from knowing God's game plan and wrecking it. Its also why Jesus's disciples were so clueless until the Resurrection. They had to add the pieces to form the puzzle. They had the pieces but didn't understand they were coming together at that time. Even before I was being drawn back to God, I watched many a End Times fan spent countless hours agonizing over "Who's the Anti Christ" or "Does this event fit this passage?" and on and on. It always seemed a colossal waste of time. Time & effort better spent on better understanding of God's Messages, stuff that Heiser has been so instrumental in God's hands in revealing the many backstories in Scripture that help us understand better in 2022.

[@stompthedragon4010]

@@Baltic_Hammer6162 guilty here

[@robbymacklin]

Jesus gave us His opinion regarding whether we can understand prophecies of future events. 25 Then He (Jesus) said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! 26 Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?” 27 And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself. Luke 24:25-27

[@robbymacklin]

@TTS NEWS Yes!

[@newcreation2521]

Heiser is just being honest, prophecy is not his best topic.

[@garyg7549]

That's because he confuses the matter by reading Catholic Bibles of the last century and a half. "How could a temple be a wing?" Seriously??? And some consider this gentleman a scholar? Please. Scholar of confusion who does a disservice to the body of Christ in my opinion. More harm than good.

[@newcreation2521]

@@garyg7549 Makes me wonder why God included end times prophecy in the Bible if no one can understand it. Maybe Heiser can at least explain that to us that someday. Oh I forgot, hindsight required. God is not the author of confusion. God bless.

[@garyg7549]

@@newcreation2521 I tend to be overly Critical with this gentleman because in my opinion he causes confusion rather than clarification. I keep watching in the hopes I change my mind. So far not yet.

[@newcreation2521]

@@garyg7549 I'm in the same boat, I keep trying because I tend to think if he shared what he does know as well as what he doesn't, we would benefit, all I ask for is his best shot. On the other hand, scholars want to wow us, you know, reputation, so he might be waiting until he can come up with some wow, lol.

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

He's admitted that for years. Salvation via clearer understanding of the Bible, is Heiser's forte.

[@LeavingBabylon_]

Absolutely agree! I get so sick of people trying to figure it out. We need to be connected to our Father, God, and He will show us what we need to see when He needs us to see it.

[@rsmith7589]

And yet your here... I'm PUZZLED. According to scripture, Jesus' splendour is miraculously manifested at the transfiguration along with Moses and Elijah's glorified forms, (Matthew 17:1 - 9, Mark 9:1 - 10, Luke 9:27 - 36). Watch: "THE LORD TRANSFIGURES HIS TWO MIGHTIEST MOST ANCIENT PROPHETS IN THE MOST FEARFUL MANNER EVER". Our generation sees the bible come to life.

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

Revelation 5 hammers that home. Prophesies have 3 basic functions. 1. To warn 2. To promise 3. To show you the prophesies come true. The prophesy chasers waste their valuable time panting after mysteries they will never solve (See Rev.5). Its a big con of the devil to divert attention away from salvation and the building of Christ's church. But it makes them feel pious.

[@rsmith7589]

@@Baltic_Hammer6162 , King James Version. 10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

[@t.l.duncan1021]

I have often wondered if the Dome of the Rock which is called the Nobel Sanctuary by the Muslims might be the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place. It was erected 1335 years ago and has blasphemy written on the exterior, " Allah has no son:. The other thing that strikes me is the use of the phrase "wing of abomination" sounds like a military term used to describe a flank of an army. Did you know that there is such a thing called "OCTAGONAL WINGS"? Many Federal buildings featured octagonal wings. The dome of the rock is in the shape of an octagon. And the only thing i can see causing those in Judea to flee would news of an altar SUDDENLY standing........it can't be the 3rd temple because the time it takes to build one doesn't allow for suddenly and fleeing. Looks like the abomination is there. Now a man will come and take credit for peace. He is the human abomination. ...........He is coming. God bless

[@darrellscholl7244]

Can you tell me a little bit more about the blasphemy written on the exterior?

[@t.l.duncan1021]

@@darrellscholl7244 it is really easy to find when researching. some things are best seen with your own eyes.

[@InSearchofTruththruJesusChrist]

Mike knows the answer now. RIP.

[@BibleResearchTools]

Michael, in the gospels, Christ gave us parallel statements that implied the presence of Roman soldiers on Judean soil, or more so, their presence in the city of Jerusalem or in the temple, was the abomination of desolation *standing in the holy place*: *_"When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)_*_ Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:" -- Mat __24:15__-17 KJV_ _"And _*_when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh._*_ Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto." -- Luk __21:20__-21 KJV_ The prophecy in Luke was fulfilled when Cestius Gallus sent his troops to Jerusalem to try to put down an insurrection, but he left shortly thereafter, giving Christians the opportunity to flee. The historical significance of the statements in both Matthew and Luke is based on an earlier encounter between the Jews and the armies of General Vitellius who had planned to march his troops across Judea. He rerouted his troops around Judea after the Jews protested that the idolatrous ensigns the soldiers carried were not allowed on Judean soil, i.e., they were an abomination. That bit of history is found in the works of Josephus: _"3. So Vitellius prepared to make war with Aretas, having with him two legions of armed men; he also took with him all those of light armature, and of the horsemen which belonged to them, and were drawn out of those kingdoms which were under the Romans, and made haste for Petra, and came to Ptolemais. But as he was marching very busily, and leading his army through Judea, _*_the principal men [Jewish leadership] met him, and desired that he would not thus march through their land; for that the laws of their country would not permit them to overlook those images [eagles?] which were brought into it, of which there were a great many in their ensigns;_*_ so he was persuaded by what they said, and changed that resolution of his which he had before taken in this matter. _*_Whereupon Vitellius] ordered the army to march along the great plain, while he himself, with Herod the tetrarch and his friends, went up to Jerusalem to offer sacrifice to God,_*_ an ancient festival of the Jews being then just approaching;" [Antiquities of the Jews, in William Whiston, "The Works of Flavius Josephus Vol 3, Book XIV-XX." George Bell & Sons, 1889, Book XVIII.5.3, Mat __24:15__, pp.284-85]_ Imagine how sacred Judean land was to the Jews to encourage General Vitellius to send his army around Judea, rather than through it, to keep from offending the Jews. That is an annotated version of Daniel 9:26-27 that ties the words "standing in the holy place" to the presence of Roman soldiers in the temple: _"And after the sixty-two weeks [plus seven weeks, or 483 years after the 457-458 BC decree of King Artaxerxes], the anointed one [Christ] shall be destroyed [cut-off, crucified], and there is no judgment in him [he's dead]: and he [Christ, who is alive again] shall destroy [future tense] the city [Jerusalem] and the sanctuary [temple] with [using] the prince [Titus] that is coming [future tense]: they [the people inside the city] shall be cut off with a flood [of Roman soldiers], and to the end of the war which is rapidly completed he [Christ] shall appoint the city to desolations [even the country side was stripped of its trees]." -- Dan __9:26__ LXX_ _"And one week [i.e., during the 70th week] shall [Christ and his disciples] establish the covenant with many: and in the midst of the week [I will be crucified, and] my sacrifice and drink-offering shall be taken away [, because there is no more need for sacrifices]: and on the temple shall be [planned] the abomination of desolations [Roman soldiers]; and at the end of time [end of the age] an end shall be put to the desolation [the city will be destroyed by those armies.]" -- Dan __9:27__ LXX_ I could be wrong. LOL! Dan

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Clarity from allowing scripture to interpret scripture: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23)

[@BibleResearchTools]

AllOtherNamesUsed wrote, "Clarity from allowing scripture to interpret scripture:" Continuing: " And their dead bodies will lie on the street of THE GREAT CITY which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified. (Rev 11.8). The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is THE GREAT CITY which reigns over the kings of the earth. (Rev 17.18). ”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.” (Rev 18.24) ”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!” (Mat 23.37) for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA” (Rev 18.23)" Scripture-interpreting-scripture is the only reliable hermeneutic. But lack of timing statements from the scripture renders your post unclear. For example: _"Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her . . . And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth." -- Rev 18:20,24 KJV_ When did that occur? Jesus told us it would be fulfilled in his generation: _"Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute: That _*_the blood of all the prophets,_*_ which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation; From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It _*_shall be required of this generation."_*_ -- Luk __11:49__-51 KJV_ _"Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for _*_it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem._*_ O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not! _*_Behold, your house is left unto you desolate:_*_ and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord." -- Luk __13:33__-35 KJV_ The blood of prophets was avenged on Babylon, but the blood of ALL the prophets was avenged on Jerusalem during the generation of Christ. Therefore, by default, Babylon the Great was 1st-century Jerusalem. Dan

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

@@BibleResearchTools with Christ’s statement “this generation,” He is referencing a psalm that uses this phrase (as in Hebrew, without the supplemental words supplied in translations) which refers to a (spiritual) family generation, not a 40 year generation (or 70 year, etc). This is made even more clear if you look at how He used the same language on the wicked Pharisees in Mat 23 and linked their generation (of vipers, with their spiritual father the devil) as having slain Abel - which they couldn’t have done physically since they were not born, but as a collective spirit, one with their father (a perversion of the shema prayer) instead of one with our heavenly Father, etc. The psalm Christ references in Mat 24 also links up with other parts of the Olivet Discourse on the endtimes which has not happened yet. I have never seen anyone make this connection before and it is very interesting to look at. I have the study on the blog linked atop my channel for anyone interested. I also addressed other preterist arguments like mention of ‘some standing here,’ etc.

[@BibleResearchTools]

AllOtherNamesUsed wrote, "with Christ’s statement “this generation,” He is referencing a psalm that uses this phrase (as in Hebrew, without the supplemental words supplied in translations) which refers to a (spiritual) family generation, not a 40 year generation (or 70 year, etc). This is made even more clear if you look at how He used the same language on the wicked Pharisees in Mat 23 and linked their generation (of vipers, with their spiritual father the devil) as having slain Abel - which they couldn’t have done physically since they were not born, but as a collective spirit, one with their father (a perversion of the shema prayer) instead of one with our heavenly Father, etc.. The psalm Christ references in Mat 24 also links up with other parts of the Olivet Discourse on the endtimes which has not happened yet." Jesus said the blood of ALL the prophets would be avenged on Jerusalem, and Jerusalem was destroyed during his generation. What other evidence do you need? Just in case, here is more: Babylon the Great was the Mother of Harlots (Rev 17:5.) So was Jerusalem: _"Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations . . . But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was . . . Wherefore, O harlot, hear the word of the Lord . . . And I will judge thee, as women that break wedlock and shed blood are judged; and I will give thee blood in fury and jealousy . . . Behold, every one that useth proverbs shall use this proverb against thee, saying, _*_As is the mother, so is her daughter_*_ . . . As I live, saith the Lord God, _*_Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters."_*_ -- Eze 16:2,15,35,38,44,48 KJV_ Jerusalem's sins were worse than Sodom's. Ouch! In foretelling Israel's (that is, the old covenant's) last days, Moses also compared the nation of Israel to Sodom. _"For their vine is of the vine of Sodom, and of the fields of Gomorrah: their grapes are grapes of gall, their clusters are bitter:" -- Deu __32:32__ KJV_ Paul compared earthly, materialistic Jerusalem to Egypt as being "in bondage with her children" (Gal 4:22-26.) John summarized the treachery of that wicked city: _"And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified." -- Rev 11:8 KJV_ There are dozens of other examples of an imminent, first-century return of Christ in judgment of old-covenant Israel (and to reward the elect -- the remnant,) and none for a distant future return. If not for the imaginations of some of the early church fathers, like Justin Martyr, we may not be having this conversation. Cyrus Scofield tried a different tactic: _"*Gr. 'genea,' the primary definition of which is, 'race, kind, family, stock, breed.' (So all lexicons.)* That the word is used in this sense because none of 'these things,' i.e. _*_the world-wide preaching of the kingdom, the great tribulation, the return of the Lord in visible glory, and the regathering of the elect, occurred at the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus, A.D. 70._*_ The promise is, therefore, that the generation--nation, or family of Israel--will be preserved unto 'these things'; a promise wonderfully fulfilled to this day." [Cyrus I. Scofield, "The Scofield Reference Bible." Oxford University Press, 1909, Matt __24:34__, p.1034 fn]_ A serious problem with Scofield's argument is he used the definition of genos, rather than genera, and dogmatically claimed it was accurate, even resorting to the deceptive words "so all lexicons." His error was somewhat "corrected" in more recent versions, but it still attempts to explain away the plausible meaning of the text: _"The word "generation" (Greek genea), _*_though commonly used in Scripture of those living at one time,_*_ could not here mean those alive at the time of Christ, as none of "these things"-that is, the worldwide preaching of the kingdom, the tribulation, the return of the Lord in visible glory, and the regathering of the elect-occurred then." [Cyrus I. Scofield, "Scofield Study Bible: King James Version." 2003, Mat __24:34__, p.1281]_ Since they were not around to witness it, and since it would destroy their eschatology, they simply don't believe, or don't want to believe it happened the way it is written. I am not that stubborn. I let the scripture interpret the scripture. AllOtherNamesUsed wrote, "I have never seen anyone make this connection before and it is very interesting to look at. I have the study on the blog linked atop my channel for anyone interested. I also addressed other preterist arguments like mention of ‘some standing here,’ etc." I will take a look at them, but I have a feeling I have seen them all before. BTW, I am accurately labeled a "partial preterist." I believe Satan has finally been released from his prison, but is still alive and kicking. Dan

[@christianbohls9880]

"I have foretold you all things."

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

1. He was speaking directly to His disciples. 2. All the calamities, false teachers/false messiahs, wars, were already happening and have continued to happen since Peter declared in Acts 2 that they/we are in the Last Days as prophesied. A couple years ago it dawned on me when Jesus was speaking to a person or group, he was speaking directly at them on a specific issue at that moment. But His words were also applicable to any future readers or audience on the same topic. I termed it "Now & Future". Sometime later I heard Heiser speaking more in-depth and he labeled it "Already but not Yet". In the big picture I believe the message is mankind has not changed and will not change, therefore people will continue as they always have until the end.

[@christianbohls9880]

@@Baltic_Hammer6162 you got it! Peace be with you.

[@tracybranch2955]

Wow. Brilliant. Thank you Dr. Heiser

[@garyg7549]

He told us nothing. On top of that he said if you claim to understand biblical prophecy, you're probably wrong. Yep great teacher.

[@stephenyoungblood3683]

I have signed up for a “Community”; please confirm it is legitimately yours. Thank you.

[@fuzzycounsellor9147]

His view is completely unhelpful, also his assumption that anyone who says they do understand it can be dismissed as they do not, is arrogant. I have heard very good insights as to what this is referring to and it is already a past event. Believing in a gap between 69th & 70th week is what makes the passage impossible to grasp. The abomination *is* the continued sacrifices in the temple after Messiah's perfect once for all sacrifice on the cross, of which the former animal sacrifices were a foreshadow. The desolation this abomination caused was the destruction of the temple & city 40 years (within one generation) later in 70 ad, predicted by Messiah when He told the Jews "I leave you your house desolate". So yes, prophecy can be understood in hind sight, but trying to force it into a future speculative view makes it impossible to grasp.

[@wakeywakey8603]

If God dwells (tabernacling) WITHIN US, then Satan wants to takeover God's Temple, Throne & Kingdom WITHIN US. 🔥🔥 Luke 17:21 KJV 🔥🔥 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU. 🔥🔥 Isaiah 14:13-15 KJV 🔥🔥 For thou hast said in thine heart, I WILL ascend into heaven, I WILL exalt my throne above the stars of God: I WILL sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I WILL ascend above the heights of the clouds; I WILL be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

[@franklicary3407]

Michael, why do not include with Dan 9 what Jesus says in the GOSPELS about the ABOMINATION and 2 Thess 2:1-f ?

[@philipatoz]

Christianity has three immensely divisive debates that have long set Christians into intensely oppositional camps - and the commonality of each of these endless debates is that they sow discord and animosity between Christians in these various theological camps. So, what are the camps: The various endtimes scenario debates - (No Rapture / Rapture / pre-Trib, mid-Trib, post-Trib, etc.); Calvinism - particularly the Five-Pointers vs. those who deny this view of God's Sovereignty / What He has decreed, etc; Young Earth creationists (YECs) vs. Old Earth creationists (OECs) vs. Evolutionist Creationists, etc. I teach groups from time to time - and I've started banning such debates from them because they almost always turn south with arguments. What a waste for God's people to be involved in such constant arguments! And despite people ever insistent that whatever prophet meant this or that - I would say that there is much to be found within prophecies that the writer themselves didn't fully understand - as Mike said, if had been clear in the past, why consistently a vast gulf between how things ended up going down vs. the common theological views that anticipated events differently than their fulfillment?

[@stompthedragon4010]

Sad that we can' g debate interesting topics without the anger and hostility ( and pride). I have my views. They sometimes waiver. They sometimes change. Sometimes I throw my hands up. I always try to remind myself that I could always be wrong.

[@evelynbarton6349]

Masterfully stated!

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

"When you die that is the end of the world for you". Billy Graham. I read that in his paper column in the early 70's and it really struck deep. Since that day I've never worried about "sign watchers" declarations or anything remotely related to end times chatter. Besides the Apostle Peter declared in Acts 2 that we are in the last days. By Peter's declaration the end times started after Pentecost. When you dig into history of any era nothing has changed, mankind has always been evil and will remain until the end.

[@Douggg1000]

The abomination of desolation does have a certain chronology. The abomination of desolation is in Daniel 12:11-12. The abomination of desolation will be set up - and 1290 days later will be the appearing of the sign of the Son of Man in heaven (Matthew 24:30a). Then , 1335 days from when the abomination of desolation is set up (on the temple mount) will be Jesus's return (Matthew 24:30b). The 45 days difference will be the period that the kings of the earth gather their armies at Armageddon to make war on Jesus.

[@jocarmo]

Interesting how here Dr. Heiser,, completely ignores the pretext of the previous abomination and desolation, to support his own view, while negating the view of others following opposite reasoning, based on the flow biblical and historical precedents, especially since this would of been a basis prophetic understanding of the writers. Seems to run counterintuitive to how he usually views biblical understanding of the resources available.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Clarity from allowing scripture interpret scripture: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23)

[@thornhedge9639]

um; "To put an end to sin": Galatians 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. Jesus was the seed, no? Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; "To bring in everlasting righteousness": Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. If the "Law" was only till the seed should come, and it was nailed to the cross with the seed, and Christians put on the righteousness of Christ at baptism. Covered by his righteousness; 15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.yes? So if the Law is the Law of Moses (the law ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.) Deu 31: 24And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished, 25That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, 26Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee. And the cross ended that Handwriting of ordinances; thus triumphing over the (Angels) principalities and powers who ordained it. What am I missing? What of Daniels 70 weeks is not fulfilled? If Jesus is the "Word" made flesh and the "Stone the builders rejected", then that makes him the Covenant of God in the flesh. It was after all the covenant the people rejected and broke which caused God to: Acts 7:42 Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? The Temple and Jerusalem were destroyed, not one stone left upon another of the Temple. What isn't fulfilled of Daniels 70 weeks prophesy?

[@Minimicromegapony]

Tell em about your take on blessed is he whom the LORD doesn't impute sin..... Everything is being separated 👍

[@Nunya_Bidness_53]

If you couldn't understand prophecy, there'd be no point to prophecy. It's a warning or a promise to which God expects you to respond. Why else would the risen Jesus chastise the disciples as "fools and and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets had written" or condemn his generation as blind guides who knew not the time of their visitation? Personally I'm preterist, so it's even clearer for me. Jesus said he would return before his generation died out and that people standing there hearing Him say that would live to see it happen. When they asked, "See what happen, exactly?" He replies: "See that big temple-y thing iver there that looks like a temple or something? When that's not here anymore because foreign armies came in and knocked it down, and scattered the Jews among the nations, that was Me." It's like that sticker people put on the gas pumps with Biden pointing to the $5-a -gallon gas saying "I did that". It's hard to miss. Unless you're a fool and slow of heart...

[@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER]

That's an issue in comas. It should be like this, "truly I tell you, this generation, will not pass etc..." He was talking about a future generation that would witness his coming. Not the guys in his day. The same issue with the paradise coma...

[@Nunya_Bidness_53]

@@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER There are no commas in Greek or Aramaic. You're inserting them where you want them in the English translation. Also your sentence is a non sequitur. And what do you do with the bald statement that people standing before him hearing his voice would live to see his coming? Or that "you shall not have gone over the cities of Judea till the Son of man be cone"?

[@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER]

@@Nunya_Bidness_53 since I can speak hebrew, and some Aramaic, I know of the lack of commas. You're telling me this is superfluous. I am saying that the coma should be there, cause that is what makes the most sense, or you risk an unfulfilled false prophecy. And I have no idea what this sequitur thing is. I'm not a westerner. You'd have to give me the verse you mentioned in context for me to tell you what I think of it and it's bold statement.

[@Nunya_Bidness_53]

@@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER You're actually saying that the phrase, "Verily I say to you, this generation, shall not pass till all these things are fulfilled" makes sense as a sentence?!? What, pray tell, is the object of the verb phrase "shall not pass"? There isn't one!! But if you render it: "Truly I say to you: 'This generation shall not pass till all these things are fulfilled.' " ...then that makes perfect sense. Especially when you look at the THINGS in question: -siege/fall of Jerusalem -fall of Herod's temple -Jewish diaspora ...which things happened within one generation (forty years). Bippiity boppity boo.

[@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER]

@@Nunya_Bidness_53 so, the Messiah established his kingdom within 40 years? When was that? Why don't we know of such a thing happening? Read the verse in context to see how much sense your approach makes.

[@cedarberryclanblackberryac6447]

Well, Israel was born in a day in '48 but it may not have happened the way we thought it would... and people can get so distracted by prophesy...

[@fair2light1]

Prophecy remains a mystery until it is fulfilled! I love this! I personal think most all of us will be surprised at how end times prophecy plays out. Thank you, you have opened my eyes. I used to think I had it all figured out until I heard some of your teaching. Now I am not so dogmatic and I hope to Never have disagreements with Any who are.

[@garyg7549]

Darn shame that a Bible teacher adds to the confusion rather than clarifying. Total disservice to the body of Christ by a so-called scholar of scripture. God help us.

[@garyg7549]

@@velkyn1 your problem is that you're labeling the moniker Christian to those who aren't really. Don't group them with us. The True Believers are very few, the others are still concentrating on temporal pursuits. You see those guys on TV promising prosperity or you see the Roman Catholic church with their faulty Doctrine of a wafer God and intercessory priests and mother God etc. Those aren't Christians those are religious folks playing religion. But it sounds like you are locked into your plan. Good luck with it, I wish you well.

[@garyg7549]

@@velkyn1 Fair enough. Good luck with your plan.

[@garyg7549]

@@velkyn1 you are locked in to your frame of mind. There's nothing I can mention that will change the way you think. But I'll go back and look at your post and point out some things for the benefit of others. I'll have to do that later today if you don't mind. Thank you for your time and your replies today.

[@garyg7549]

@@velkyn1 see your mind is already made up. You don't even tell us what your specifically talking about what Jesus commanded his believers. So I'm left to guess what you're talking about. Is it love others which I think is biblically correct then yeah I'm way better than what I was before coming to Christ for salvation. I was a loser more on living for myself for realizing there's much more to life than me and my interests. Now I care about the lives of others including yours !!

[@realitywins6457]

The understandable felt-need for having a comprehensive, coherent system (right now) is itself competing with the ambiguity in the text. Since the Holy Spirit can be trusted to have judiciously provided what is currently necessary information, then if I can trust him with future deliverance I can trust him with the ambiguity in the text.

[@InfinitEternaLovEmmanuel]

Excellently stated!

[@realitywins6457]

@Armando Tarziu FYI: I think your previous message in this thread was intended for a different thread.

[@realitywins6457]

@@InfinitEternaLovEmmanuel Thanks. I came to this realization recently that what is not explicit in the text can itself be instructive - similar to the use negative-space in art, or silence and diminuendo in music. A lot of these ambiguities seem to fit into -> A curious modern “grinding” to sleuth a cryptic end-times-puzzle which is specifically prevented from being deduced beforehand.

[@InfinitEternaLovEmmanuel]

@@realitywins6457 Agreed

[@russjosey2012]

I believe the lady is correct and that the abomination is a double entendre', having two actual and literal meanings.

[@michaelabraham9177]

I agree. Everything in the Bible down to the smallest words and their placement matters. The word nachash for serpent has multiples of meanings. The word barasheit for in beggining has prophecy in it. The 4th word of Genesis which is never interpreted in the English versions is described by John in the intro of chap 1, and used 3 times by Yahshua in revelation to state who he is. The list goes on.

[@followeroftruth4813]

@@michaelabraham9177 Yes את, is a definitive article, it basically means The. And why the word The appears before heavens and earth. את ה ואת ה

[@michaelabraham9177]

@@followeroftruth4813 exactly, that's why I believe that aleph tau is like a name/identifier for elohim. That's one of those mysteries that helped me get hooked on the bible when someone explained it to me. Suddenly John 1:1-5 really popped out at me. The 3 times Yahshua claimed that title/identifier in revelation. Especially 22:13 essentially putting him on the very 1st, and very last page of the bible, beggining and end. Even if I didn't believe I'd be geeking out over this stuff bigtime.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

@@michaelabraham9177 the aleph tav אֵ֥ת is a direct object indicator and is untranslatable. The definitive article is the heh הַ preposition before a word.

[@niniv254ever]

How can we not know prophecy but in Dan 9 have actual count downs to exact time of prophecies? This is totally confusing. Can we know or not?

[@niniv254ever]

The sad truth is it’s cryptic and confusing, can not be known and that’s a fact.

[@erbenton07]

Does the Bible say anything about the United States?

[@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER]

Nope. Unlike in geopolitics, in the Bible, only middle eastern nations matter. The US is a world away, so the prophets never concerned themselves with it.

[@erbenton07]

@@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER so there is no hint that a far away nation (The USA) would arise?

[@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER]

@@erbenton07 Just like there is no hint of China, India, Japan or Russia. Those things are simply not a matter of interest.

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

Yes it does. People who confidently say that it doesn't don't know what they're talking about because they don't understand the fact that God refers to modern nations by their biblical names/ancestors. The U.S. emergence as a superpower and its eventual fall are prophesied all throughout the OT.

[@erbenton07]

@@theeternalsbeliever1779 Can you give me a couple of book:chapter:verse references?

[@williamleadbetter9686]

My guess its only a good guess, The people of the prince to come is Islam as the people who destroyed the temple in 70AD were the 10th foreign Legion made up of what is today Turkish & Syrian Roman conscripts soldiers. BUT THAT IS ONLY A HUNCH!

[@JonHuhnMedical]

Take the additive intelligence of everyone on this forum, including Dr. Heiser's, put a negative sign in front of it, and I'm stupider than even that number. Yettttttt..... I've had this view of biblical prophesy since I was a teen. Everyone seems to think they know exactly how the end times will shake out (while disagreeing with everyone else who believes they know how the end times will shake out), and yet all the blokes in the bible never seemed to see prophesied things coming until after it smacked them between the eyes.

[@josephlwallssr6166]

What???? Ambulgulity? I guess, God,s will is much greater, than our human minds , will ever know. Mike is probably right, hind sight is 20/20!Humble and non- prideful......

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

@TTS NEWS You haven't read or digested the message of Revelation 5.

[@kevinclint7588]

PRAISE THE LORD,………FOR HE ALONE IS A PERFECT KING,……….. AMEN

[@donnar9864]

THE perfect king

[@robbymacklin]

Jesus gave us His opinion regarding whether we can understand prophecies of future events. 25 Then He (Jesus) said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! 26 Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?” 27 And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself. Luke 24:25-27

[@markquigley9730]

Jesus did this AFTER the event. They were foolish because they still did not understand even though there was plenty of evidence that Jesus had risen and his rising made sense of prophecies that previously had been ambiguous. Luke 24 illustrates Mike's point.

[@robbymacklin]

@@markquigley9730 In Matthew 24 Jesus specifically spoke of the abomination of desolation. He told us to go and read what the prophet Daniel said. He said "let the reader understand". He told us many things about what would happen in the future. He didn't do this to confuse us but that we would understand. He has given us the Spirit to help us and guide us into all truth. He further gave us the great commission in Matthew 28 which is not just about preaching the gospel but He said to make disciples and teaching them to observe all the things which He had commanded His apostles. Daniel told us that in the end times the wise would understand. His prophecies were sealed up.. until the time of the end when knowledge would increase. He wasn't talking about earthly knowledge, but the knowledge of the scriptures.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

@@robbymacklin Clarity from allowing scripture to interpret scripture: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23)

[@markaustin5269]

Prophecy, especially end times prophecy, is so cryptic and full of metaphoric language that you can make it say anything you want.

[@undergroundpublishing]

The Magi knew the Christ had come the first time around.

[@thetruthchannel349]

*Ya, there are Ancient Chinese writings that indicate they understood what was happening.*

[@Wraiths_and_Wreckage]

They knew a king of the jews had been born

[@undergroundpublishing]

@@Wraiths_and_Wreckage but the people who claim to be experts on the scriptures did not.

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

Daniel stayed in Babylon or the nearby area after the Jews were freed. From extra-biblical sources he mostly associated with the astronomers, studying the heavenly bodies and their movements. Its believed he told them the series of events in the sky that would signal the birth of a great king. When they saw the specific planets moving as they were told, they set out for Jerusalem. This did not happen in one event. As the Bible tells us Herod quizzed them about the timeline and they told him. That's why infant boys under 2 years old were targeted for murder. A few years ago I came across an astronomer used an astronomy program to recreate the movement of several royal/king planets west of Babylon. It was so clear and understandable showing the applicable planets movements at various times. This occurred over a span of about 2 years. Every overlooked detail in the Bible suddenly jumped out, made total sense and fell into place like a puzzle piece. I regret to inform you I didn't bookmark the URL. I've tried to find it since but all I find now is VERY sub-par presentations. But that was an OH WOW..!! moment I assure you.

[@bradkemble]

It is a message to 1 man, that man understands barely.

[@zero_hour_z]

I understand that the "Prince who is to come" , who "puts an end to sacrificed and oblations" (sry if misquoted) was actually Jesus. His 3.5yr ministry was for half a week

[@thetruthchannel349]

*I think what is being misconstrued here is the difference between Prophecy and Purpose. Prophecy is never referred to as a Mystery. God's Purposes and Plans for a time are referred to as a Mystery such as Paul referring to marriage and Christ and the Church. Thats a Mystery. We cant fully understand that until the consummation of the Age. One reason for Prophecy is so people would recognize God's Hand at work. If you couldn't understand it, you couldnt recognize it, therefore, you'd be perpetually lost even when it was being fulfilled. You also have to quantify what is meant by 'Understanding' it.*

[@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER]

That guy is not a good character in the prophecy. Stop blaspheming the Son of God by saying He is mentioned in that verse.

[@memukanofpersiaandmedia2668]

Absolutely, Messiah goes to the Cross in the middle of the week, and the prince to come was Titus, who destroyed the Temple and stole the furnishings as we see on the Arch of Titus in Rome.

[@zero_hour_z]

@@memukanofpersiaandmedia2668 I'm saying the prince to come was Jesus. He put an end to sacrifices and oblations

[@memukanofpersiaandmedia2668]

@@zero_hour_z I agree, but there are two different prophecies in those verses, one the Messiah comes and cuts off the sacrifice and one that comes and destroys the city and the Temple which was Titus.

[@tradermonk9403]

Prophecy is like a dirty snowball. It is revealed as the passing of time melts the snow and reveals what God put there.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Clarity from allowing scripture to interpret scripture: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23)

[@ThePettiestOfficer_Juan117]

But Heiser knows… seems legit.

[@stevesamson3940]

Heiser knows that he doesn't know. You can too!

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Clarity from allowing scripture to interpret scripture: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23)

[@Idiopathogen]

If you don't make a distinction between Israel and the Church, you can't understand prophecy.

[@geraldjohnson8871]

Read Matt 6:34 and then forget what you think about The Morrow. Shalowm and Amen.

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

Amen. People chasing after foolish things with no end. Billy Graham said it best... why do you worry about the end of the world? When you die that is the end of the world for you.

[@geraldjohnson8871]

@@Baltic_Hammer6162 B H l never heard Billy Graham But l read and feel the same from the Lord GOD. YaHaVaH. The GOD of Eternity. AMEN AND SHALOWM.

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

@@geraldjohnson8871 Graham had a Question and Answer column in newspapers. Somebody wrote him with a questioin about last days prophesy and that was his answer. It was about 1971/1972 time period. It made so much sense I never worried another minute about the topic. Grace & Peace to you.

[@wardashimon-australia33]

The Gospel: Plain and Simple “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.” - 2 Corithians 11:3 Ask someone today if they are saved and you will most likely hear responses like these: “I have accepted Jesus into my heart.” Or “I have made him Lord of my life.” “I’ve been baptized.” “I said a prayer.” Sounds all good and churchy don’t it; but it is difficult to de-termine whether or not a person actually knows the gospel that saves them. These use￾less phrases don’t describe a thing about what the gospel is and has left a devastating effect of people not knowing what it is that they are saved from nor how they are saved; which leaves a more serious effect of people ques￾tioning their salvation. Let’s not muddy the simplicity of salva￾tion that is in Christ with vague church sounding phrases that do not communicate anything. But rather present God’s word with clarity and assuredness. So here is the gospel: plain and simple. Sin was passed upon all men by one man Adam, and death is a consequence of this sin (Rom 5:12). Mankind has an eternal destiny of condemnation and wrath - Hell - because of this sin (Rom 6:23). No matter what good works one might do we are still found sinners in the sight of our Creator God. And all un￾righteousness and those who follow get in￾dignation and wrath. We cannot be found righteous for by God’s law we are found sin￾ners (Rom 3:19-20). If we have broken even one law we are found guilty. It is for this reason of not being able to create our own righteousness and being born in a sinful flesh that we need a savior (Titus 3:5). Christ is that Savior, God manifested in the flesh, sinless, died in our place on a cross 2000 years ago. Taking upon him the wrath and judgement that was intended for us sin￾ners. And it is through his bloodshed, burial, and resurrection on our behalf that we are able to have peace with God and forgiveness of our sins (1 Cor 15:1-4, Col 3:14). This good news is unto all but only those that believe in it are made righteous in Christ (Romans 3:22). It is then after we have heard this good news of Christ’s righteousness available to us freely, that we are sealed with the Holy Spirit and we are now part of Christ’s body the church (Eph 1:13) There is nothing that we need to do, no good works that are required, and no bad works that can separate us from our new po￾sition in Christ (Romans 8:35-39). Faith and belief in this information from God’s word is the gospel. The gospel is not accepting Jesus into your heart. The gospel is not making him lord of your life, it is not saying a prayer and it is not being baptized with water. So next time someone asks you if you are saved. Give them the clear assured answer “Yes! And let me tell you why Find more free resources at: www.graceambassadors.com

[@rep10101]

RIP Mike

[@scottwojack]

Mike, don't you know the new covenant was replaced by the American covenant. lol

[@beppiek]

Daniel recalled the prophecy of Jeremiah on the 70yr … THIS WAS NOT HINDSIGHT

[@rsmith7589]

"Elijah is already on the earth right now, preparing the CHURCH for the Rapture, when JESUS CHRIST takes HIS bride,,,then Elijah will come to israel" says George N. Watch on 'SIGNS OF THE COMING OF THE GREAT PROPHET ELIJAH,,,'. The Lord's Prophets are here to prepare the church back to its original state.

[@garyg7549]

The church is the BODY of christ. Masculine. The church is part of the bride. All believers of all time are espoused to the groom and that's Abraham Noah Adam you me David Apostle John and the tribulation Saints. We will be at the wedding supper celebrating our marriage to the groom who saved us. There is no one in heaven without christ. Remember the three days between the death and resurrection? The Old Testament saints were waiting to be released. No one is in heaven without Christ.

[@rsmith7589]

@@garyg7549 , The Lord's servant's have to prepare the CHURCH before Jesus arrives, the Bride has to be spotless. 4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments. 5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet BEFORE the coming of THE GREAT AND DREADFUL DAY OF THE LORD. 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse (Malachi 4:4-6). They are also mentioned in Matthew, Mark, Luke and Revelation.

[@rsmith7589]

@@garyg7549 , you might be interested in watching: "The Earth after the RAPTURE - Prophet Dr. Owuor in Sweden " on Time is over JESUS IS COMING soon.

[@rsmith7589]

​@@garyg7549 , The Cloud of God on Repentance Channel. URL: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqrOfKyHrtCdqrc God the Father, Jehovah has been visiting for sometime. SHOCKING!!!

[@garyg7549]

@@rsmith7589 yes Elijah one of the two witnesses will be preaching before they and we are raptured out chapter 11 revelation come up hither.

[@slavicgypsy5535]

and the reason being is because of free will

[@bernardlash4169]

Go mikeee

[@theidolbabblerthedailydose33]

I think eschatology isn’t much more complicated than this… Hebrews 9:27 Everyone must die once, and after that be judged by God.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Clarity from allowing scripture to interpret scripture: _And their dead bodies will lie on the street of _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified._ (Rev 11.8). _The woman [Babylon per 17.5] whom you saw is _*_THE GREAT CITY_*_ which reigns over the kings of the earth._ (Rev 17.18). _”And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth/land.”_ (Rev 18.24) _”Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!”_ (Mat 23.37) _for your [Babylon’s] merchants were the great men of the earth, for all the nations were deceived by your “PHARMAKEIA”_ (Rev 18.23)

[@gregpierce9800]

Right Mike. Example: Daniel 7:25 and Amos 8: 11-12. Jiffy becomes Jiff, The Monopoly Man loses his monocle, but the Scarecrow gains a gun. And the Lords Prayer changes three times. Imagine that, the Prophesies were Literal. He changed time and laws and you can't find the word of the Lord. Welcome to the NWO, brought to you by CERN and sorcery.

[@stevenpina1983]

WHHHHHHHHHHHAAT?

[@RKay-ku1ni]

​@@stevenpina1983he's partly talking about the Mendela effect

[@stevenpina1983]

@@RKay-ku1ni lol, oh yeah. I just mean they’re a little unhinged sounding too

[@Navarrator10]

Gary Demar helped me out here. Eschatological stuff is in his wheelhouse

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

Read Revelation 5. Pretty clearly states the one and only who can break the seals. Hint: its nobody on earth.

[@preacherjoegros1092]

Judge for yourself but first read Isaiah 54:13, Jeremiah 31:34, Hebrews 10:16 and especially Hebrews 8:10-12! Do we no longer need a teacher to teach one another? Do all know the Lord without a teacher or preacher from the Greatest to the least! Hebrews 10:10 says this is the covenant that I WILL MAKE! AFTER THOSE DAYS! WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL! Sorry for the all caps. and explanation points but people simply gloss over words. A Covenant is the coming together of two parties. In the old Testament there are 2 Covenants the Covenant that God made with Abraham in Genesis 15:18 and the Giving of the Law on Mt. Sinai in Exodus.. I will submit to you, you search this out for yourselves, there is ONE NEW TESTEMANT Matthew 26:28, in that Will and Testament yes are 2 covenants one heavenly belonging to the Body of Christ Church that was a Mystery until revealed to the Apostle Paul by Jesus Christ {Ephesians 3:1-12 &6:19} {Romans 16:25}{1 Corinthians 2:7}{Colossians 1:26} The other earthly to a future Nation of Israel not yet enacted as I have already explained with the first few Bible passages . The symmetry of the bible is a beautiful and amazing thing , the two Covenants of the Old Testament, and two in the New, the Gospel of the Circumcision and of the un-circumcision in the New,, It's Religion that tells you "things different are the same" . It reminds me of someone in the garden that said "did God really say? ssssssssay"?

[@preacherjoegros1092]

The only thing that makes prophesy a mystery is subtitle deception or a deliberate twisting to make a case for an agenda , to prop up a Religion. The Book of Revelation is like a gun in the hands of a child for anyone who has not read ALL of the books of the old Testament prophets many times. Most everything in the Book of revelation can also first be found in the Books of the prophets in the old Testament. These prophesies pertain to the Nation of Israel which is partly in belief and partly in unbelief , the Nations that are in unbelief, and the Tribulation Saints who ARE NOT the body of Christ Church. The Revelation in the Book of Revelation is Jesus the Christ , the Lamb slain from the foundations of the world. If Rightfully dividing the word of truth were not important Paul would not have warned Timothy in 1 Timothy 2:15, People are always saying "I follow the whole Bible" then why are you not making an Ark out of Gopher Wood? I Believe that God put all the books in the Bible in the order He wanted. Paul's 13 Epistles are the manifold wisdom of God. Ephesians 3:10. like the manifold on a car engine they tie all scripture together making a machine that is fully operational. Yet in God's timeline there are 2 more Dispensations to come, #1 the Kingdom age and #2 the Dispensation of the fullness of time where God brings all that is on the earth and all that is in heaven into one in Christ Jesus Ephesians 1:10.

[@soteriology400]

It was all fulfilled within all of the time indicators and time frame references riddled throughout the New Testament. Too many have been programmed to be desensitized to the time indicators.

[@snakejumper3277]

Consider this: prophecies about the Messiah occur throughout the Old Testament & the Nation of Israel was watching for Him but didn't recognize Him. In fact, the Jewish religious leaders killed Him without knowing they were fulfilling prophecy. (Aren't we glad, though?) The Apostle stated this in I Corinthians 2:8, "None of the rulers of this age understood this, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory." After His resurrection, Christ opened the eyes of two of His disciples on the road to Emmaus.

[@Baltic_Hammer6162]

If people or the demons could recognize prophesies happening, then they could react and alter the course of events. That is NOT going to happen.

[@snakejumper3277]

@@Baltic_Hammer6162 Agreed but once fulfilled, believers can look back & be amazed

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

You need to reconsider the context of 1 Cor. 2:8 because Nicodemus told Jesus that the Pharisees all _knew_ exactly who Jesus was(Jhn 3:3). It is for that reason Jesus unequivocally said that they were going to be among the condemned(Luk. 13:28).

[@snakejumper3277]

@@theeternalsbeliever1779 There were those who knew who He was but they had no idea that He was to suffer & die for our sins only to rise on the third day. THAT is the mystery.

[@knowone11111]

Love you Professor Mike. Hopefully you'll do a deep dive on Leviticus 25 & slavery soon. That would make my day.

[@martinecheverria5968]

He has a full study of Leviticus in his podcast. He probably adresses that!

[@marcusg6904]

It’s quite simple. The Israelites can have their fellow brother work for them for 7 years and they are free but the Heathens and any children they have are Forever in servitude to Israel. That time is coming again soon😎

[@Nunya_Bidness_53]

@@marcusg6904 No it's not, but that was true then. The enemies of YHWH who worshipped the rival "gods" who opposed him were legitimate spoils of battle, but not a Covenant person.

[@marcusg6904]

@@Nunya_Bidness_53 So you believe EVERYONE will be equal in the kingdom to come?

[@thetruthchannel349]

@@martinecheverria5968 *Thats an ATHEIST doing his 'God condoned slavery' bit.*

[@williamshaneblyth]

if God revealed it all then the devil would know and possibly be able to plan exactly for it... Just a thought.

[@CenturianCornelious]

Right.... So people beheaded for the cause of Christ during the Tribulation will not be proportionally rewarded, there will be no mark of the beast, the Antichrist will not be given power to overcome the saints, and Jesus will not rule in peace for a thousand years -- all because we think that's what prophecy says and we can't read it correctly except in hindsight. Are you even really a Christian? Certainly you are fully incompetent with symbology. You need to take a break and study Jung for a while.

[@CenturianCornelious]

@TTS NEWS *The biblical symbols and signs are taken from earlier parts of the scriptures....* So there is no symbology in Genesis, because it has no predecessor book? I won't say much in defense of Jung because ultimately he was misguided. CGJ doesn't teach what you are suggesting. If someone wants to learn about symbology, he could a lot worse than reading Jung.

[@CenturianCornelious]

@TTS NEWS *the symbols are still based on real things and events often with multiple spiritual applications* Ah! So nice to run into someone who gets that! Dante Alighieri’s method of reading scripture uses five levels. The literal, the historical, the allegorical, the mystical, and the moral. All one gets from church sermons is the moral. Carlo Suarès’ approach in The Cipher of Genesis is another angle on deriving multiple meanings from the miracle that is Hebrew scripture. It's sad that folks almost never advance beyond Sunday school readings of scripture. Yeah, Jung was big on astrology, connecting his archetypes with the zodiac, and it's clear from the Bible God intends the heavens to be a source of information. I've not much pursued that, from Jung or the Bible(I can barely find Orion's belt). My main interest in Jung was his use of symbology for interpreting dreams of his patients. He taught his students to learn everything they could about the symbols of myth and then forget it. Thereby they could get a feel for how symbology functioned systematically and then apply that generalized understanding to the clinical setting. *Eve thought the prophecy of the Woman referred to herself.* Interesting. I have no idea from where one might infer that. Please tell me.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

@@CenturianCornelious i may have to do a whole vid on the powerful statement from Eve since it takes a bit of explaining and includes more info and getting into the Hebrew. I was floored when I looked at the underlying text and realized what she was saying and later found out it’s an old controversial idea and lightly dismissed today by Christian scholars (based on the condescending assumption that Eve was too ignorant to know what she was saying), yet the ancient Jews understood something big was going on in the text and spun it into a whole bizarre parallel storyline to avoid the massive messianic implications. Btw, this is my other channel where I get into more biblical vids vs TTS (text-to-speech) News I use for more secular topics.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

Mike asks what do you got? Peter answered: _We have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts. But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God. But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves._ (2Pe 1.19 - 2.1) The whole purpose of giving prophetic signs to be watchmen on the wall for is so that you will know when the time has come. The most obvious signs to look for are a new temple and temple ministry in operation in Jerusalem (see Temple Institute for more information on how they have long been preparing for this with trained Levites and prefabricated temple material and furniture). All the false predictions of "end times" have all missed this one most obvious sign which should tell you immediately that they don't know what they're talking about and is used by critics to 'discredit' biblical prophesy. The other very obvious sign is the Lord coming in intense light seen by everyone with His angels and holy ones (saints) glorified -- this was the sign the Pharisees were demanding to see from Him to prove to them He was the Messiah but as He indicated, His first coming was without observation and the second would be as the Son of Man in glory as seen by Daniel.

[@AllOtherNamesUsed]

_“Truly I say to you, this generation shall not pass until all these things take place.” (Mat 24.34)_ _Many have fumbled over the interpretation of this statement to indicate the timing of Christ’s return but it can be shown from the scriptures that Christ was not using it in this manner or to indicate that He would return in the generation of the first century to whom He was directly speaking to. Rather, it appears He was citing the beginning of a biblical verse (“This generation” - another example occurs on the cross when Christ recites the beginning of Psalm 22.1) to provide more information or revelation at the end of the future age with the sign of His coming as opposed to the end of the age the disciples were living in while the temple still stood followed by the time of the Gentiles in which we are still living (cf Luke 21.24)._ _The questions of the disciples in Mat 24.3 regarding the sign of Christ’s coming and the consummation of the age was asked in a way that showed the disciples thought Christ would set up His earthly kingdom at the end of their contemporary age after the temple would be destroyed as He had just mentioned would happen with no stone left upon another (ie, a desolation)._ _Acts 1.6 shows the disciples were still under this impression after Christ’s resurrection when they asked if HE was then going to restore the kingdom to Israel just before being taken up from the Mount of Olives, but Christ told them, “It is not for you to know the times or seasons which the Father has set by His own authority” (Act 1.7), yet in Mat 24.32-33, Christ gave the specific signs by which they would be known. Therefore, Christ was clarifying to the disciples just before being taken to heaven that they would not live to see the signs of the end of the age before He returns (as opposed to some of them seeing the vision of His return on the Mount of Transfiguration fulfilling Christ’s statement in Mat 16.28), for if they did see them take place then they would know the times and seasons of His return. The disciples had not yet received a fuller understanding of these things as later taught in Peter’s second letter, and elsewhere in the New Testament._ _Christ’s answer to the disciples in the Olivet Discourse provided information on both ages ending (one in 70 AD, one future, and perhaps even the end of the millennium mentioned in Mat 24.35-36, cf Rev 21.1) which have overlapping details, including the temple and city to be destroyed by armies, but they also have differences: there was no idol/abomination in the holy place that led up to the desolation in 70 AD as there will be in the future per Mat 24.15 cf Dan 11.31; 9.27; 12.11. (Note: many point to Antiochus IV Epiphanies’ desecration of the temple in the 2nd century BC as a fulfillment of some or all of Daniel’s prophecies of the abomination of desolation, however this cannot be the case by definition because there was never any desolation - a destruction to ruins - as a result of what this Gentile leader committed like there was with the first two desolations of the temple and city as a result of what the leaders of Judah committed.) Compare Matthew chapter 23 for the 8 woes pronounced to the leaders of Judah by the Messiah - none of which describe an idol or abomination of desolation as a reason - leading up to the statement, “Behold, your house [ie, temple] is being left to you desolate!” (Mat 23.28). This temple desolation happened 40 years later (a trial period as in the wilderness which it had become without the Holy Spirit) in 70 AD._ _The similarities between the second and future third temple destructions at the end of their respective ages are similar to the way the first and second temple have similarities surrounding them when they were destroyed including on the same calendar day (9th of Av). “That which has been is that which will be, and that which has been done is that which will be done. So there is nothing new under the sun.” (Ecc 1.9)_ _Likewise, the future 3rd temple destruction has similarities with the first destruction especially the surrounding events and details described by Ezekiel, including abominable idolatry even within the temple grounds leading to its desolation/ruin (Ezekiel 6.11-14 and Ch 8; cf Rev 13.14-15)._ _Now the old testament verse Christ cited in Mt 24.34 does not indicate the timing of His return, nor does the chapter it is found in, and it does not support the idea that it is referring to the generation in the first century when He spoke the words in Mat 24.34. Such time indicators or signs of the last generation are given in other statements Christ made including later statements from the apostles. These statements will not be the main focus here but rather it is the clarification of the statement, “This generation shall not pass..” (Mat 24.34)._ [article from blog link atop my channel too lengthy to post here in full]

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Conversation with a Preterist on Hesier's KZbin channel saved in 2021: Sean Crippen 1 week ago These things were fulfilled in the end times. The new testament writers spoke of their times as the last days, end times, even the final hour. Why do we believe the end times refers to us? […] AllOtherNamesUsed 1 week ago At first yes the apostles did think Yeshua was going to return in their day, but they later realized it would be far in the future. 2Peter shows this understanding and addresses the issue and he hints at it being 1000s of years away when he quotes how a day is like a thousand years to God, etc. But in a sense, yes they were living in the last days of their age and the beginning of a new age, just as the end of the year is also considered the last days which is Rosh Hashanah when the last trumpet is blown beginning the new year (new birth/resurrection). Sean Crippen 1 week ago @AllOtherNamesUsed Jesus himself told his followers that some of them would live to see him return. Do you believe he was wrong? AllOtherNamesUsed 1 week ago (edited) Solomon taught that things that happened before will come again, that’s why the first two descriptions of the temple destructions have some similarities and even both occurred on the 9th of Av. The future destruction likewise has some familiar details to both the previous destructions, but the one in 70 AD does not fulfill many details including no abominable image placed in the holy place described by Daniel and shown in Rev 13 placed by the false prophet, no false messiah claiming to be a God in the temple, no 10 kings giving him their authority and attacking Jerusalem with their armies, no composite kingdom made up of the previous kingdoms described by Daniel as shown in Rev 13, no 2 witnesses performing great signs and wonders vs the 2 beast appearing to performing similar actions, and on and on. Nevermind the earliest and best attested tradition dates the book of Revelation to the 90s AD, well after the 2nd temple was desolate and how Ireneaus, disciple under Polycarp who knew and was a disciple under St John discussed the future coming of the false messiah. Rev 1.19 says the things written are of the past, present and future. John was also taken in the spirit forward to the Lord’s day (1.10) so take that time context with the intro about the time being near (1.3). Christ said we know the time is near by knowing the parable of the fig tree and see it regrown (Yeshua cursed the fruitless tree and then entered the temple and told the leaders the kingdom is taken from them and given to a people bearing fruit, therefore when the temple ministry is back in operation we know the time is near, this is what the false prophet posing as Elijah is renewing as anticipated by the rabbis in Rev 13.) See the blog link atop my channel for deep studies on these things. AllOtherNamesUsed 1 week ago @Sean Crippen then He took the 3 pillar apostles to the mt and gave them a preview of what it would look like, His glory and the 2 witnesses appeared with a voice from heaven. Peter even references this event to make his case in 2Peter. Note that the gospels show that they saw this 6 days after He told them they would see it, ie, on the 7th day or 7th millennium as a day is as a 1000 years to the Lord. Sean Crippen 1 week ago @AllOtherNamesUsed You speak of the transfiguration in Matthew 16? If so, where on that occasion did he come in all his fathers glory, with his angels, repaying every man according to his deeds as v27 states? Also, you miss where he told them to flee persecution (ch.10) but they would not reach all the towns in Jerusalem before he came. Sean Crippen 1 week ago @AllOtherNamesUsed I don’t know about all the details you mention, but history does record many of them. You mention time context. How could it be that Daniel was told to seal his vision because it was far off (500 years?) but John was told the time is at hand (now more than 2000 years?) Time may be irrelevant to God but not to us. Why would he communicate to us in such a contradictory way? I don’t buy it. AllOtherNamesUsed 0 seconds ago @Sean Crippen “where on that occasion did he come in all his fathers glory, with his angels, repaying every man according to his deeds as v27 states?” Where did He say they would also see the rewarding of deeds? Did He mention it? Yeah. Did he say they would see it? No. Here’s what He told them: “Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.” (Mat 16.28 NAU) As for His father’s glory (not sure why you say “all” His Father’s glory), clearly v2 refers to this as the transfiguration with his face shining as the sun and His raiment white as the light as well as the bright cloud (ie, the Holy Spirit/God’s glory) in v5. Sorry if that’s just not a good enough description according to everyones’ personal idea of the Father’s glory, but that’s consistent with God’s glory described in the bible and fulfills what He said they would see and that’s how He is described as appearing also in Revelation and again, Peter affirms this in his second letter (2Pe 1.16-18) whether or not everyone is satisfied with it. “Also, you miss where he told them to flee persecution (ch.10) but they would not reach all the towns in Jerusalem before he came.” Or perhaps you miss the point being made there (Mt 10.23) - simply put, they would not reach every city before dying and Christ’s coming will not be in their lifetimes. Perhaps you also missed v39 which hints at this, as does John 21.18-9 which Peter recalls in 2Pe1.14 and makes very clear, leaving no room for making the mistakes you persistently pursue despite nearly 2000 years of hindsight now. “I don’t know about all the details you mention, but history does record many of them.” Please cite these many historical records and where they describe the events in question. [Note: no sources were ever provided to back up this big claim at the time of this note, 2022-01-14] “How could it be that Daniel was told to seal his vision because it was far off (500 years?) but John was told the time is at hand (now more than 2000 years?)” Dan 12.10 doesn’t say seal the vision because it was “far off” but refers to the “end” when describing the things that will happen at that time including unprecedented trouble, deliverance of those written in the book (of life), resurrection, glorified saints, and recapitulates the expected abomination that makes desolate set up and the taking away of the daily sacrifice - this is the same period John was taken to see in the spirit in Revelation 1.10 called the Lord’s day which is still future to us. So in that future time context when the events describe are taking place we know the time is near and He comes quickly/swiftly, like a thief in the night to those who are in the dark (cf 1Th 5). Sorry but there’s no contradictions and I’m not buying your loaded questions designed to give the appearance of problems where none exist and neutralize awareness of serious plans by the modern nascent Sanhedrin to build a new temple in Jerusalem and renew the old Sinai covenant anticipated by the rabbis for the prophet Elijah to do as shown happening by the second beast/false prophet in Rev 13 when you understand the OT language being used (see studies on the blog atop my channel too lengthy to post here).

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@@AllOtherNamesUsed Its quite obvious you are going to believe what YOU want to believe. I will not stop or deter your path. Ask God to enter your heart and lead you to the truth of salvation in His Word.

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@@Baltic_Hammer6162 I’m going by the scriptures as shown above instead of false teachings. But thanks for illustrating how Heiser supporters put his teachings above the teachings of the bible. Have a nice day.

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​@@AllOtherNamesUsed this generation meant, the one being talked about. Which was not the first century generation.

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I appreciate his cautious approach because it respects God’s Word.

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That’s not true whatsoever. Scripture says we can receive spiritual gifts including discernment and prophecy etc

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Awesome 😎