Profiting From Hate | Transphobic TikToks

[@RolyWestYT]

I am so glad I have become the cockroach of your channel and can never be got rid of! Just know I WILL BE BACK!!!

[@PhoenixHinds]

Je t'adore, Roly.

[@timothyisstupid]

*_I always come back_*

[@sn0wgnome]

You look so badass mate. You've clearly committed to that look, and it works so well

[@jonashannes3793]

You're voice is massive quiet a contrast to Jammis in the beginning

[@jonashannes3793]

How is he commenting before 5 hours when the video is an hour old?

[@BOO_I.m_A_Ghost]

"How's that period every month? That's never gonna go away." Well, let's see... hrt, hysterectomies, oral contraceptives, MENOPAUSE???

[@kylethecherry-nosesanalite1723]

Turns out, many transphobes also don't know much about periods.

[@prageruwu69]

fr, it's so funny how little transphobes know about trans peoples' bodies, or just bodies in general. i guess i'm not real because t got rid of my periods.

[@starscreamthecruel8026]

@@prageruwu69 Doctor made mine go away with pills because apparently if you still have them in your 50s, you're in danger of health complications? *shrugs* who knew.

[@Alucia0]

Yeah it makes me laugh when they bring up stuff like that lol there is more to a period than a bit of blood

[@Kagomai15]

Because of my IUD I haven't had a period in 7 years :D

[@artheenbyrogue804]

Two spirited or 2S is a part of Indigenous culture for people who are partly feminine and partly masculine, or are outside the gender binary as a whole. They take up different roles in their community than their assigned sex at birth. Edit to add, they are extremely respected in indigenous culture and are rooted in Indigenous history. Also @fabiosa made an excellent point about this term that it's based on a European perspective about gender, and it was recently coined, please read that comment.

[@jmvr]

Native American/Indigenous culture apparently had a very "liberal" view on gender and identity, with some cultures having many more genders than just male or female. If my memory is correct, apparently Indonesia or some place close has a similar culture, with many genders and no clearly defined man or woman genders Very interesting how that is. See, if it wasn't a made up thing, then you'd think that every culture would see it the same way, and yet it doesn't. Makes you think that maybe, gender is a social construct? Hmmmmm 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@fireclaw9602]

That sounds cool. And yet phobes will still say that Trans people are recent 'trend' 😆

[@artheenbyrogue804]

@@jmvr the reason why now there is transphobia (at least where I am from) is because of colonialism and how the British and the French brought their views on gender, and since they sought out to eliminate indigenous folks, they purposefully tried to punish two-spirited people as well as indigenous people as a whole. Each culture has certain beliefs, but in many cultures, before colonisation, being transgender, non-binary, two spirited or gender diverse was respected and even celebrated.

[@jmvr]

@@artheenbyrogue804 yeah, it also doesn't help that the colonists wiped out most of the population of indigenous people in those areas

[@fabiosa_duckbert]

Just to clarify, two spirit isn't really an individual who has both male and female aspects, it's actually very removed from the European idea of a sexual binary. It's very removed and is not very easily defined as its a catch all term that was made in 1990 and has received backlash because the name is misleading. It covers a lot mutually exclusive, and mutually inclusive 'genders'. Again, not so much gender in the sense we think of now. They frequently had a religious aspect to their duty in their communities and their 'gender' is inextricably tied to their culture. Though they didn't always have a religious aspect, some were well respected chiefs, warriors, farmers, speakers etc. Some were discriminated in their communities and heavily oppressed and/or suppressed. And in some communities it was literally not a big deal, no special roles, literally just some person. Not trying to say anything mean! Just clarifying since the name is pretty misleading but it is a catch all term made pretty recently.

[@s.p.d.magentaranger1822]

There's a Monster High quote that is oddly deep and appropriate for this: " To the uneducated, revelation is a doorway to knowledge, but to the close-minded, it is a wall that echoes back their prejudice as truth."

[@kylethecherry-nosesanalite1723]

I love when random pieces of youth media have these deep quotes.

[@gotmilk9843]

Wait I don’t think I quite understand, could you explain it❓

[@marinasplaylist2251]

Wow, I love this

[@wingedyera]

​@@gotmilk9843 if you are uneducated but open you can still learn, but if you are so filled with ideas that you have closed your mind to other ideas you cannot learn you only hear the things you want to hear

[@gotmilk9843]

@@wingedyera oh, I see, thank you❗️

[@junoantaresofficial]

As Steve Hofstetter once said "3% of people who transition regret it. But 3% of people who win the lottery also regret that. Which tells me that 3% of people will never f-ing be happy."

[@waffles3629]

Also between 6-30% of people regret knee replacement surgery (depends on the study). So that's 2-10x more people, but no one is trying to ban knee replacements. Also over half of people who have transition regrets do so for reasons other than not being trans, like lack of a support system and safety.

[@kerrykirk2515]

Seriously! Your comment is worse than piers morgan

[@waffles3629]

@bigchongusHH wrong

[@junoantaresofficial]

@waffles3629 don't bother, they aren't worth even a second of your time. They have their opinion and it matters more to them than respecting other people. Just ignore them. If you came across someone yelling nonsense in real life you would cross the street to avoid them, you wouldn't try to argue with them. Do the same here. Let them yell into the void and cross the road.

[@waffles3629]

@@junoantaresofficial good point

[@auntlynnie]

Not-so-fun-fact: The “litter boxes in classrooms” story actually started because in the USA, it was discussed (I’m not sure if anyone ever implemented it) that teachers could have litter boxes in their classrooms IN THE EVENT OF A SCHOOL SHOOTING/LOCKDOWN.

[@grantmegan91]

Anyone who's ever worked in a school knows litter boxes would absolutely be against code and would never be allowed to happen. Everyone who says it happens is always getting their info from "my uncle's cousin". It's so ridiculous

[@ffinbbin]

it was also for the purpose of service/esa animals in classrooms! there was a school (i forget where) that implemented litter boxes because of a student who needed their cat ESA in order to attend their classes comfortably

[@muted__dreamer]

i think it was also for service animals but people then heard about therianthropy and assumed it was a part of the trans community (it isnt) and were like "oh lord people are identifying as animals and need litter boxes and schools are letting this happen and-" like bro actually shut up lmao youre just making yourself look stupid (coming from someone who is transgender and happens to also be a cat therian)

[@okamiangles7121]

@muted__dreamer I don't know about therions, could you please explain? (Genuinely curious)

[@muted__dreamer]

@okamiangles7121 its hard to explain, and i do suggest looking at the youtube channel Therian Territory to learn more in depth but simply put, it is a person who identifies as an animal on a non physical level, whether it be spiritually or psychologically

[@DestructionGlitter]

"You have to be high to be in highschool" "what are your sources?" "it's in the name, high school!"

[@austin.luther]

BOOM. You just got fact'd and logic'd!

[@Boundwithflame23]

So does that mean you have to be a middle child to be in middle school? 🤔

[@caesar4372]

A translation of the french: "Hello" "The eleventh star, the computer" "How are you?" "My name is [bleep]" ...Quelle journée...

[@HufflePorg]

Thought they said stylo which is pen, star is étoile, though maybe I misheard

[@colleen.g]

Yeah, I heard "la une stylo, la ordinateur" (the a pen, the computer) 😆

[@austin.luther]

I also heard "la une stylo." The grammar had me smirking, then Roly's pronunciation of l'ordinateur made me literally LOL.

[@silverghostcat1924]

One person who regrets their choice doesn't have the right to speak for everyone else. They have the right to say, "This is my choice, it didn't work out for me the way I thought it would, I regret my choice ". But they don't get to speak for anyone else!

[@kazuu_44]

seriously. i find it so stupid how someone can be so confident in speaking on behalf of all people of a community in general, especially one they no longer wish to be apart of. “this is how i felt, therefore everyone feels the exact same and they’re lying if they say otherwise.” no ONE person can speak on behalf of an entire community. there will always be variables and outliers with any ideology, especially one as broad as queer topics.

[@Soooootiredofthis]

@@kazuu_44 Just comes across as someone who's in love with being the centre of attention. The media attention and opportunity now for them to feel special completely overriding any possibility of them seeing the damage they are personally inflicting on the community, at the same time as removing any shred of accountability

[@Tachii31]

Unfortunately, it's a lucrative path for them to take. Erin Reed did an article about one of those detransitioner grifters who had earned $200,000 from appearance fees, donations and working for an anti-trans organisation.

[@silverghostcat1924]

@Tachii31 that's pathetic.

[@Billy-w8g]

​@@Tachii31wonder how much dylon made pretending to be a girl?

[@aubbesh]

men in the 1980s wore crop tops and short shorts but now they’re hating on women who cover up more now. make that make sense

[@almamater9566]

Men in the 18th century wore high heels, tights, make up, wigs, jewels. I mean aristocrats, not everybody but still. And pink was a ''manly'' color. Those social norms make no sense anyway

[@dasha_ucko]

Misogyny.

[@JDMimeTHEFIRST]

They are the same men who tell those men to cover up. I guess they feel too tempted by the men and not enough by the women?

[@sassylittleprophet]

Rules for thee, but not for me

[@kevinturner9549]

​@almamater9566 Pink wasn't "manly" pink and purple were status, because it was expensive. Read a book.

[@clancyalexander6192]

If Ben Shapiro said to me, "it's basic biology", my response would be, maybe you should take advanced biology.

[@kevinturner9549]

Where in all of biology does it state that male can become female?

[@khamburger3115]

⁠@@kevinturner9549protogyny and protandry, although rare, is something that happens

[@Alex-gh8iu]

​@@kevinturner9549your fear is palpable and hilarious

[@GaTraCos]

​@@kevinturner9549Neurology proves trans existences. So many parts of the brain are sexually dimorphic and with trans people, match desired gender over natal gender.

[@kevinturner9549]

​@ArAsDeCos Absolutely wrong. Man and woman are physical beings, doesn't matter what's in someone's head, or how someone feels. Humans can not self identify, then become something, this is the real world.

[@idgarobingoodfellow]

As a cis woman with higher than normal testosterone levels, sometimes I fantasize about going up to like, a stranger on a streetcorner who is being transphobic and just be like "Oh you can always tell? What am I?" and then just turning whatever argument they make against them over and over and over and change their answer back and forth until *they're* the ones getting frustrated and looking stupid, and also just walking away without giving them any definite answer about my sex or gender, because I want them to be haunted by that conversation.

[@laurebourgeois4289]

I could tell though.

[@Cheeseburgermagazine]

@@laurebourgeois4289 What gender am i then

[@Alex-gh8iu]

​@@laurebourgeois4289sure, zionazi. Sure.

[@laurebourgeois4289]

@@Cheeseburgermagazine I would have to see you in the street to tell if you are male or female, silly.

[@quantumAnarchist]

@@Cheeseburgermagazine what ever gender you tell me you are

[@nesomnia]

I had the most powerful beard before transitioning. It's a shame we can't gift these things to each other. Alas.

[@rowanrobbins]

I like that description of your former beard!

[@Thelastunicornlover]

❤

[@lucialma]

One of my transmasc friends had the most beautiful rack before their top surgery; we had a conversation about how sad it was that the technology didn’t exist to donate their boobs to breast cancer survivors and transfemmes

[@Kagomai15]

​@@lucialmathis is a conversation ive had and encountered many times and it's just as funny and sad every time lol

[@Bomsanchu]

my beard has literally confused people for the longest time, I am non-binary but look very masculine and was born male. they are so confused when I get angry about people talking bad about non-binary people and when I tell them Eden isn't my born name it's just funny seeing their brains die. I look like any guy but I ain't a guy and when I explain most trans/non-binary people have no special look then they say bs like "yea but you are different"

[@koivunen2489]

Yes, start knitting to avoid becoming a bigot! I am a knitter and I endorse this message.

[@mungosiffphryyt3123]

I do both knitting and crochet. But the bigots are getting louder!

[@feuerling]

​@@mungosiffphryyt3123 take up macrame too!

[@WildJJasmine]

Yessss! 1000% agree! Knitting is the best hobby ever 😁

[@Roadent1241]

It seems like a worthy outlet.

[@Roadent1241]

@bigchongusHH Haha, I see what you did there.

[@sage.81]

I think people are hearing that young kids are transitioning (like social transition and hormone blockers) and assuming they're getting surgeries

[@kylethecherry-nosesanalite1723]

Part of that problem is that a lot of people don't know, nor care to learn, what transitioning actually involves. They hear "transition" and only think gender affirming surgeries.

[@sage.81]

@ Exactly. People hear someone transitioned and automatically assume they've had their genitalia removed even though that's not that case for most

[@dinosaysrawr]

What's very telling is that when I reassure people of this fact, the vast majority completely ignore me and just keep fuming about surgeries and hormones. I'd say that this is because transness makes a lot of cis people inherently uncomfy, period, but they realize that they can't argue against a person dressing how they please, going by the pronouns that feel right, and going by the name or nickname they prefer without starting to sound like a wacko authoritarian.

[@ElliottKirkwood]

Spot on, and then they get told otherwise but don't want to admit they're wrong, so cling to fake arguments

[@3denx]

exactly! no kid is getting gender affirming surgeries, and yet they say that many kids are getting gender affirming surgeries

[@aspidoscelis]

I'd bet that the person most uncomfortable with Piers Morgan identifying as a black lesbian would be Piers Morgan. That's why this "oh, people can call themselves whatever they want" thing isn't a real problem.

[@dinosaysrawr]

Even the hypothetical person who only does it to gain some kind of supposed perk or benefit will, I predict, eventually fall apart psychologically when compelled to "prove" themselves and see the bit through to the bitter end. Most people cannot tolerate cognitive dissonance, and most people also can't ignore the sting that comes from being chronically mislabeled or misperceived.

[@cursedwyvern3044]

Absolutely- he wouldn’t have the guts to deal with all of that discrimination.

[@aspidoscelis]

​@@dinosaysrawr Someone faking an identity probably would have a hard time being taken seriously, but I think it'd be worse for them if they _were_ taken seriously. I mean, there are real benefits to being perceived as a cis man, and people believed I was a cis man, and it was awful. Social pressure can be strong enough to get you to stick with an identity that feels wrong, but it's a deeply unpleasant experience. Like, it's not a clever life hack or something. You're not pulling a fast one.

[@dinosaysrawr]

@@aspidoscelis , it's definitely not a clever life hack! The people who think that it'd be easy-peasy to just pretend to be a black, autistic, depressed, transgender lesbian for the sweeeeeeet, sweeeeeeet benefits grossly underestimate the social, psychological, and potentially, physical and/or legal suffering that would come from trying to keep up that ruse. Much like uretheral sounding, it'll be the rare person who'll be willing to tolerate it, so there's no need for all of the disingenuous fretting about the rare person who'll try to cheat the system in that way.

[@R0mbVs]

I mean the black woman in the clip seemed to be laughing, but I think to her it was pretty clear how fvck1ng dumb he sounded.

[@maltedcrow]

16:08 “that will never go away” man I’m not even on T yet but since I have PCOS and thus slightly raised levels of T, and mine has been highly irregular since I was like 16 and I’m 28 now- like able to go almost entire years without one

[@raxusveritas]

So like Do peoples' bodies *need* to have periods? If it just doesn't happen, does that do anything bad to you? If not I feel like in the future we could just remove periods from afabs and it would be pretty neat

[@maltedcrow]

@ from what I gathered from my gyno, technically unless you’re on something that purposely stops them, it can be dangerous for a few different reasons to go the lengths of time that I go without them- iirc it can lead to increased risks for cancers and other complications?

[@maltedcrow]

@ I will say that normally when I DID end up having one it’d last for like. 20+ days. Longest I’ve had it is like 40 days.

[@raxusveritas]

@@maltedcrow but like What if we found out the part in our dna that makes us have the stuff that causes menstrual cycles and just 🧬 ✂️ 🧬🗑️?

[@millynocito7958]

​@raxusveritas Well if we didn't have menstrual cycles people wouldn't be able to naturally conceive kids anymore,whilst I wouldn't mind reducing the population a little I imagine some people would object to it

[@BiDisaster327]

0:10 Rolly is speaking simlish LMAOO

[@ConflictingJumps]

awesome reference!

[@Nekooghoull]

Where? Lol that wasn't simlish

[@Carra_Mell0]

“Hows that period feeling? It will never go away..” “Testosterone” I have never laughed so hard at a clapback before. I needed that.

[@hippydisnerd]

Ethnicity and race are something you inherit from your parents, whilst sex is something that isn't 100% determined until you're done being a fetus. In fact, "transracial", before being coopted by racist and transphobic weirdos, was usually used by people of one race who'd been adopted by parents of another, who felt they could no longer fully identify with their heritage because they hadn't grown up with the culture and community.

[@kevinturner9549]

Sex is realized at conception, simple fact.

[@Alex-gh8iu]

​@@kevinturner9549nope, coward

[@unknown-ix7md]

@@hippydisnerd btw ethnicity and race are two different terms, but good explanation :) to add, the term ‘race’ as a biological fact is bring disputed because alot of our ideas surrounding race are socially constructed (and stem from colonisation and western views). for e.g someone who is half black in the USA is still labeled as black whereas places like Trinidad and Tobago have multiple racial categories for mixed black people. ethnicity markers are present in human dna though, and they can indicate ancestral origins, along with haplogroups and dna matches.

[@hippydisnerd]

@unknown-ix7md absolutely! Science is cool like that. Too bad it gets used evilly sometimes haha 🥲

[@M_M_ODonnell]

@@unknown-ix7md There isn't really a dispute over the biological reality of race -- it's been soundly rejected for decades. Specific genetic patterns? Sure, those exist, but they cross lines of "race" with no consideration for human social structures.

[@manaash4316]

I love these collabs so much. Jamie is pretty grounded and careful in what he says, oly is unhinged and says what we're all thinking (THESE PEOPLE ARE C*NTS!" 😂). It's the most balanced part of my day ❤❤

[@kylethecherry-nosesanalite1723]

It reminds me of the Key & Peele "anger translator" sketches.

[@deathmacke9474]

I agree! All these people talking to peterson and shapiro trying to change facts are cunts

[@austin.luther]

Jamie and Roly together are like my brain all the time. Simultaneously trying to understand and be empathetic while also screaming, "OH F******CK YOU!" They together are my spirit animal.

[@baby.nay.]

They’re one of my favorite duos on KZbin !

[@BooksiBo]

I really want to ask transphobes their opinion on victoria sponge when they start relentlessly asking someones gender identity during a debate. Like, if we're talking about something COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO THE DISCUSSION then why don’t we talk about food instead?

[@lo-faag]

OH MY GOD I FORGOT VICTORIA SPONGE WAS A KIND OF CAKE AND THOUGHT IT WAS SOME KIND OF SUPER HOT GNC DRAG PERFORMER 😭😭

[@NekolatheDruid]

I understand the opinion that debating right bigots is pointless, but I disagree. There are people forced to be in those audiences for their safety. I grew up in a very right wing conservative household and without seeing progressives/liberals debating and arguing against the conservatives that my family worshipped, I don't know that I would have gotten the courage to leave.

[@SpyderQueen1988]

I think we have to remember it's not about changing the mind of the person you're debating, it's about the people listening to the debate. X

[@SuperJJParker]

It's also abou understanding why people think the way they do

[@gotmilk9843]

Yeah, of course I’m a person on the left, but I never watch a Ben Shapiro debate because maybe Ben’s actually gonna change his mind for the first time in 10 years ✋, it’s always about seeing people who are brave enough to stand up to him in hopes of touching any others in the audience. Of course like Roly was saying most Ben Shapiro fans are too far gone to have their minds changed, but Ben does those talks with auditoriums of impressionable college kids who still have time to come around

[@emilybastong3896]

@NekolatheDruid First of all, I'm so happy you found the courage to leave❤ and second, you are absolutely right. There are kids everyday sitting in front of these shows who cannot express their feelings and we owe it to them to keep talking back and correcting misinformation. Maybe 99% of the audience are too far gone, but the 1% that isn't still matters

[@emilybastong3896]

​@@kevinturner9549 Hey since you seem like such an expert on biology would you like to tutor me? I have this very important exam on lipid based hormones coming up that I'm really struggling with❤

[@tboyswag-]

I hate the “I identify as (something absurd)” jokes or gotchas because it’s a clear mockery of the LGBTQ+ community. The difference between a trans person identifying as their gender and a cis white man identifying as a black lesbian, is the trans person genuinely knows themselves to be their gender. Piers Morgan is making a joke out of queer people, he doesn’t genuinely believe he’s black or a lesbian. Queer people’s identities are in good faith, these kinds of jokes aren’t, they’re just queerphobic and racist in the case.

[@SuperJJParker]

Would you accept that a white person could genuinely identify as black?

[@SophieRoseLive]

@@SuperJJParker what if the world was made of pudding?

[@dietotaku]

and if they abjectly refuse to understand it and try to boil it down to chromosomes, well what's a child with XXY chromosomes then? boy or girl? the child knows but we're not allowed to go by what the individual knows to be true about themselves, so what do their chromosomes say?

[@SuperJJParker]

​@@dietotakuIs that supposed to be your trump card?

[@atroll9996]

​@@SuperJJParker I mean, culturally, yes? If they believe they share a cultural identity with the local black population, then go ahead, I've seen my friends do it. I mean, if you AREN'T actually black, then you will suffer social consequences from doing this, Try again.

[@CrabCrow]

29:46 If the bible says men can only wear men's clothes and women can only wear women's clothes then that still doesn't have anything to do with trans people because the restriction is based on gender, not sex.

[@seekervaltriz9447]

It is also an extremely old work of fiction, so like... it doesen't have any say in anything with trans people nor our modern understanding of gender based on that alone.

[@timothyisstupid]

Maybe we shouldn't base our entire modern civilization on an 100+ year old book, methinks

[@jamesnelson6656]

and remember, Jesus wore closer to dresses than suits. Also can't wear different fabrics by the same logic

[@Giuliana-w1f]

I don't think it defines what "mens clothes" and "women's clothes" are either; so if a man owns a skirt, that's still a man's clothes.

[@Aeverwander]

@@Giuliana-w1f This is my interpretation as well. It's lawful ownership that matters.

[@mirandarensberger6919]

"And these children that you spit on As they try and change their world Are immune to your consultations, They're quite aware of what they're going through." -David Bowie

[@missnaomi613]

❤🧡💛💚💙💜🖤🤎💙💗🤍

[@LDKindred]

Oh, where is that quote from please.

[@mirandarensberger6919]

@lyndseykindred8297 It's from the song "Changes".

[@LDKindred]

Thank you 😊​@@mirandarensberger6919

[@ticcitoby1936]

16:13 "hows that period going itll never go away" as a trans man my birth control shot gets rid of my period so yes it can go away girlie ;)

[@missnaomi613]

Right?! And I'm in perimenopause. Yes, the period does go away! 🙄

[@jmarlened]

I'm 53 and still getting my period. PLEASE God tell me it's gonna go away😂

[@TransGamerFemboy]

Another trans man here, I got irregular periods and then I stopped completely, not even on T or on menopause, I'm 17 and I'm keeping it like that cause there's no risks for me :3

[@waffles3629]

Yep. I've been told I'll always be a woman because I can never get rid of my period...my uterus was incinerated years ago, I think that ship has long since sailed.

[@ombrenightcores]

@@missnaomi613 I was going to say MENOPAUSE IS A THING. Do people honestly think women never age???

[@felvkitties8]

Hi from US. Hope the election turns out right on Tuesday and sanity prevails. I'm so sick of all the lies and transphobic ads. Much love to you both. Love all your videos. US people VOTE!

[@missnaomi613]

💙💙💙💙💙

[@artheenbyrogue804]

@@felvkitties8 as a neighbour from the north I hope things go well in the US. Queer and trans folks who vote for Trump, as well as immigrants, women and other minorities who vote for Trump always confuse me. Just because YOU vote for him doesn't mean he'll actually like you. As Click has said before, it's just the people voting for the leopards eating faces party and being surprised when said leopards indeed eat your face. All this to say, I'm sending my best wishes!!!

[@boss-fh6oz]

Welp...

[@TamaraLukudu]

Like fr homie😂.

[@juxtiicc]

My response to bigoted jokes in inappropriate situations is usually like "Uh,, okay." Then awkward silence until they're forced to change the topic. It's glorious.

[@ona512]

Remember the minimum time limit to make a conversation awkward is four seconds of silence. Always strive for seven seconds

[@leaf.fall.]

i love when people ask me what my gender is, I always just reply "what ever you want it to be" then if needed I wink at them

[@bookwyrm5799]

"so what are you anyway?" "yes 💅"

[@ToriEnglishArtsandPaws]

I´m often misgendered, apparently because my hair is long - so I´m looking forward to getting on T and hopefully getting a more masculine shape and deeper voice, so I can just turn around and ask "who are you calling miss?" I used to doubt my love for my long hair, because long hair was always so tied to femininity. But these days, both my grandmothers have what used to be a "boy cut" and they're obviously still gorgeous ladies. It still stings a little, being misgendered, but when I´m told it's because of my long hair, it just leaves me chuckling cuz that's so silly.

[@boop-9167]

Yeah, my childhood best friend is a cis woman who had very long hair when she was little and people regularly mistook her for a boy.

[@doesthisunithave1soul46]

My daughter, myself, my stepmom have all been misgendered because we are tall. Only one of us is trans, and the other 2 have short hair. People misgender for the strangest reasons.

[@kylethecherry-nosesanalite1723]

I have long hair and used to paint my nails. I've been called "ma'am" more times than I can count. I'm a cis man. Some people just make quick assumptions based on random traits. Style yourself however you feel comfortable.

[@Alex-ge2fc]

That's a small case study 😂, I've noticed that when I'm with other women Im more likely to be gendered correctly​@@doesthisunithave1soul46

[@prageruwu69]

good luck, brother.

[@starscreamthecruel8026]

one of my trick or treaters on Thursday said he was gender fluid(but physically looked female). I still find that one confusing so I asked them what it meant to them, and they explained then I found out they were a big TF fan, after I told them I had had an ACE Decepticon Insignia T shirt printed for the new movie, which they wanted to see and we got talking about it happily. Nice to know I'm the not only member of the rainbow community in my area, you can never tell. Happy Aro/Ace Transformers Fan \m/

[@laurendisney]

I'd love to know when that Shapiro clip was aired... because all children, regardless of gender, have been accepted into Scouting for almost a decade at this point. My almost 11 year old daughter has been in Cub Scouts since Kindergarten, and her den leader (who is a woman) is the Scoutmaster for an all-girls Scout Troop. My middle child is also a girl and has been in Cub Scouts since Kindergarten, her original den leader was a woman, and she's one of two girls in her den. We have one den that is half girls in our Pack, and our newest group of Kindergarteners are all girls. My kids and I also recently went to an event for both Troop and Cub level Scouts that had several all-girl Troops present, and at the Cub level the gender split seemed fairly close to even. Basically, unless that clip is 12+ years old, Shapiro is a serious moron. It's not even been Boy Scouts for nearly a decade, it's Scouts BSA and being rebranded as Scouting America!

[@FrozEnbyWolf150-b9t]

All of his talking points are stuck in the past.

[@Asongbook]

Shapiro isn't known for his grip on reality.

[@idgarobingoodfellow]

My absolute favorite thing on the internet right now is a clip from a jubilee video (don't watch it on their channel, find it somewhere else) where a man goes up to Ben Shapiro, gets complimented on how manly he is by Ben, then reveals that hes a trans man, before doing the same thing to Shapiro that Shapiro does to everyone else, with the fast talking, interrupting, bringing things around to whatever topic he wants to talk about, TELLS Shapiro that's what hes doing, then just keeps going and continuing to make B.S. look like the idiotic bigot he is. It's *glorious.*

[@missnaomi613]

@@idgarobingoodfellow I don't usually approve of that kind of behavior, but, giving someone a taste of their own medicine 😃👍

[@orsolyafekete7485]

​@@idgarobingoodfellowHow did I not realise before that his initials are B.S.? That's too perfect, nomen est omen I guess :P

[@armie4172]

Yay- a Jamie and Roly collab is just what I needed! The state I was born in- but no longer live in (thank goodness) -passed a policy that you can’t change your birth certificate name and gender marker anymore after I’ve spent years trying and I’m seriously depressed. Glad you two exist and help us all feel a little better about things!

[@Nic0Dr4ws]

Same with me, I’m adopted but was born in texas so unfortunately I have to follow their laws and stuff. On your birth certificate you can’t even fully change it, it still has my deadname in the same place and then in tiny print in the corner it says “amended to _” like bro. I don’t even think you can change your sex on the birth certificate but I haven’t looked into that yet

[@armie4172]

@@Nic0Dr4ws Yep- was born in Texas as well. I’m sorry you’re in this same boat with me, but no matter what a piece of paper says, we are who we say we are! Unfortunately you can no longer change your name or sex marker on birth certificates. 😞 The Texas Department of Health and Human Services quietly changed their policy not very long ago, and the forms no longer have the option anymore. I was denied twice and given BS reasons-spent a good chunk of change on lawyer. Even got a court order from a judge in September. All to find out it’s not possible anymore. But what do they know? We know the truth, and they can’t take that from us no matter what policies they pass. 💪And remember-policies can change.

[@Nic0Dr4ws]

@ omg I barely missed it then. I tried getting it done two years ago but couldn’t because my dad wouldn’t sign and I’m a minor (so both parents had too), I finally got it done around June

[@baby.nay.]

What the fuck ?!

[@squelch42]

i am detransitioned! i tried to transition quite young, so i didnt get anything done (not even hormone blockers). i'm a cis girl & would NEVER say any bullshit about transitioning because my experience is so unique.

[@Soooootiredofthis]

Happy for you having explored who you are and found yourself. Too many go out screaming to the world that it didn't work for them so that must be the same for everyone, like gender dysphoria is a telemarketing scam that they fell for and now they need to warn everyone else from it.

[@BiggerinRealLife]

Gotta throw in my two cents on Rolly’s “Why are you debating Ben Shapiro?” I got asked a similar question from some former students of mine for why I go so hard calling out the bigotry I saw from mutuals online. They asked me after messaging me to say thank you, because I said what they were wanting to say. I told them: that’s why I do it. I don’t debate people’s hateful views because I want to change their minds, I debate them for the untold numbers watching. So that anyone watching knows what I stand for, and that they have a safe place with me. And for anyone watching who might feel split between two viewpoints; their minds I might change. Often these ‘discussions’ are seen as pointless for all involved because no one’s going to budge, but they forget about all the people listening, learning, and evaluating the merits of each argument.

[@EmilyW1313]

Les dinosaures sont cool, la transphobie ne l’est pas.

[@artheenbyrogue804]

Ouiii, et nous devrions combattre la transphobie quand possible. J'espère que vous passez une belle journée!

[@the_spanish_inquisition_monty]

DINOSAUR SUPREMACY‼️‼️‼️

[@LoremIpsum-dp1li]

@@the_spanish_inquisition_monty SUPRÉMATIE DES DINOSAURES‼‼‼

[@FIatts]

Debatable

[@artheenbyrogue804]

@@FIatts ok I have a genuine question for you, why do you watch Jamie? You say you're a TERF as well. I highly doubt anyone here will listen to your opinion, so I'd suggest to be more kind and accepting.

[@Cobalt-Case]

Here's some positivity. My Dad, who is super conservative, said he wouldn't believe I was trans unless I got a brain scan, and continued to misgender and dead name me for literal months after I started T, drove me around after getting off his second job to get my T and then to find syringes when the pharmacist was an ash hole. I thanked him profusely, and he said, "You need it." He got maybe an hour of sleep in 48 hours. Bless him. Thanks Pops. For reference: I don't have a license and can't afford classes

[@WildHeart7777]

It’s so funny you mentioned the migraine thing - I get migraines often, and I often imagine how good drilling a hole in my skull would feel…I think it’s just imagining the release of pressure. Migraines suck.

[@angel_wolfie8235]

Same. I know logically it won’t work but it feels like it physically would help.

[@nathryl03]

Yeah, when I'm not in the middle of a migraine the idea of drilling a hole in my skull seems obviously extreme, but when I am in the middle of a migraine I'd consider anything for a little relief, even that. As you said, migraines suck.

[@waffles3629]

​@@nathryl03 yep. Sometimes when the pain is really bad I have to fight the urge to not bash my head into the wall. Because my illogical pain brain will go "It can't hurt more than it already does".

[@littletom4928]

I'm so disappointed in Peter Dinklage for not speaking up during that segment. SO disappointed. I liked him, I loved listening to him give lectures - but this... this does change things. Even if he doesn't have these transphobic views himself, the fact that he never called it out and indeed just laughed along with them is incredibly disappointing.

[@JustinWO-31]

It's often easier to just follow the crowd. It's a shame

[@deathmacke9474]

Just to clarify that it works on both sides ​@@JustinWO-31

[@cranberrycracker6847]

That interview threw a curveball at me when that happened. This is just gross

[@ogolthorp]

Eh, I get it. He needs to maintain decent relationships with his coworkers because he’s gonna be working for them for a lot of 10+ hour days. I get why people wouldn’t wanna rock the boat.

[@Michelle-ro6qu]

I'm a trans woman and I wear shoes size 6UK/39EU, plus I'm not tall, so the trans women nonsens theory of the big feet tall trans is the bull poop. Everyone is different. Love your videos

[@elaineb7065]

Cis woman with size 8-9UK feet (42-43 EU) backing you up here xxx

[@chesh1rek1tten]

My cis sister is taller than her cis husband, taller than my cis bf and me, her trans brother. And I'm taller than at least 3 of my cis male friends and within an 1-2 inch(es) of my bf, my brother in law, and many of my friends. My bf comfortably finds women's shoes while my sister and my grandma struggle (my cis grandma used to buy men's shoes bc she couldn't find women's).. Yeah, those arguments are so idiotic.

[@waffles3629]

​@@chesh1rek1tten yep my cis sister is taller than her cis husband, I (non-binary and afab) am taller than both of them and one of my friends who is a cis man. And my partner who is a trans woman and six inches taller than me wears a whole 0.5 shoe size bigger than me. But if I couldn't find boxy shoes (I've got thick feet) I'd have to go up half a size to the exact same size. My brother in law wears women's shoes, because good luck finding a men's size 4. Oh wait, that would be boys, and then the proportions change because they expect you to be like 10 years old and prepubescent.

[@facelesshalo5174]

"Look at your feet by the way" I didn't get that. And now that you've explained it. Now I understand why Philosophy Tube likes showing off her fancy shoes. I never once clocked anything abnormal about her feet so it's really wild that people think that's some sort of flag.

[@Atlas_Quin]

Omg I love Abigail and her fancy shoes! Her costumes are always immaculate and play very well into the topics she’s talking about

[@EvanWantsJam]

They do the same with trans men's hands. Had a terf lady demand to see my dainty, womanly hands only to see calloused, scarred ones from years of sports and musical instrument abuse.

[@hannanadine]

The best duo! I not too good at french but I think Roly said something about “the computer” and Jamie answered “how are you”😂

[@kitluc]

"Basic biology". I have a degree in a biology subject and have been working in a biology field for almost 10 years. Biology (and science in general) is never just black and white

[@stormthescarred2211]

Bigot: "It's basic biology!" Welcome to the world of advanced biology! Prepare to have your worldview turned upside down.

[@psyvana]

I'm not trans, but I'm on HRT. Without my prescription of thyroxin, I would slow down, end up in a coma and die. Ignorance can kill.

[@Twnk_Edits]

Me: Random person: ur gay right Me: yeah why? Random person: I identify as a Walmart bag🫵😂 Me: hello Walmart bag. Let me tell everyone that u are now trans since u seem ro be really proud of it. I complete support u🙂

[@grantmegan91]

It's their one joke and it's never been funny

[@Soooootiredofthis]

when you know for sure that their gay-dar is on point as much as your idiot-dar lol

[@waffles3629]

Yep. I majorly ticked someone off by referring to not with cis's pronouns. Because unless your "pronouns" are slurs or such, I will use whatever pronouns someone tells me. And someone told me "My pronouns are not/cis". Not started yelling at me for misgendering cis (oh the irony), but unfortunately for cis, not'd been speaking loud enough that people nearby had heard not claim those as pronouns.

[@randomdrawings123]

My favorite part of the u have to be a boy to be a Boy Scout is that the majority of Boy Scouts I know are cis women

[@cranberrycracker6847]

Boy scouts more inclusive than girl scouts. I'm a trans man and I've been involved with both. Girl scouts sucks cuz they're separated from alot of their family and friends and "no boys aloud" when some boys might enjoy what they do

[@Plinicks]

There was an interview I saw of a trans woman who stated she wouldn't have sex with a trans man because "that's disgusting, I want a real man," and then they ask you if that's transphobic as a gotcha question. I said it was clearly transphobic, and I got a ton of replies saying mainly three things: "Your logic is so circular" (Clearly not, if you're cis or trans and you're transphobic, you're transphobic. Straightforward) "The community/allies end up destroying one another" (Guess I have to defend every single trans person's position to an impossible standard) "So now we have to want to sleep with trans people to not be labeled transphobic" (If someone doesn't want to have sex with anyone based on genital preference, that's okay, but to label trans guys as gross and desire only "real men," is blatantly transphobic)

[@aleksabanjevic8316]

I love the "don't be against the community" crowd defending ppl who are against the community, like, how come they don't extend that to the first person, in this case that trans women. It's hat whole "are people not allowed to have options" when someone states an opinion on an opinion, I guess only first statements are allowed, you can say whatever you want as long as its first, then anyone replying is the problem....

[@kevinturner9549]

Um, trans men are women. Truth isn't transphobic.

[@ISHA.W3ST]

​@@kevinturner9549"Are women" Friendly reminder: Kevin Turner is using Oxford Languages for his definition of a woman (an adult female human being), and he will reject any other definition He used this definition because it's the first thing that pops up on Google when you type "define woman" and he will call this dictionary "THE dictionary" But he chooses to ignore that his dictionary has this in it as well: "GENDER 1. the male sex or the female sex, especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones, or one of a range of other identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female SEX 2. either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions GENDER IDENTITY a person's innate sense of their gender (chiefly used in contexts where it is contrasted with the sex registered for them at birth). TRANSGENDER denoting or relating to a person whose gender identity does not correspond with the sex registered for them at birth. CISGENDER denoting or relating to a person whose gender identity corresponds with the sex registered for them at birth; not transgender TRANS WOMAN a person who was registered as male at birth but who lives and identifies as a woman; a transgender woman HIJRA (in South Asia) a person who was registered as male at birth but who identifies as female or as neither male nor female. AGENDER denoting or relating to a person who does not identify as having a gender BIGENDER denoting or relating to a person whose gender identity encompasses two genders PANGENDER denoting or relating to a nonbinary person whose gender identity encompasses multiple genders, which may be experienced simultaneously or in a fluid, fluctuating manner. NONBINARY 2. denoting, having, or relating to a gender identity that does not conform to traditional binary beliefs about gender, which indicate that all individuals are exclusively either male or female GENDER-FLUID denoting or relating to a person who does not identify as having a single unchanging gender. GENDERQUEER denoting or relating to a person whose gender identity does not correspond to conventional binary gender distinctions. THIRD GENDER a category of people who do not identify as male or female, but rather as neither, both, or a combination of male and female genders."

[@Plinicks]

@aleksabanjevic8316 Yeah, so many transphobes and right-wingers love the pick-mes to dish it out and then avoid getting shit for what they say

[@amosx7054]

It kills me that people look over the facts of how gender affirming care works. People under the age of 18 don't qualify for surgery, at least in the US. And further more, it's considered elective by most insurance companies so you would have to pay tens of thousands of dollars to get said surgery. Unless your family is very well off, you have to save for many years.

[@autopsyblue]

There are people under 18 who qualify for surgery in the US. The age of medical consent varies widely by state. It is, however, extremely rare that a surgeon will consent to operate on someone under 16.

[@misamisaa4547]

"if you can be trans, I can be a black lesbian" is the same as going "if horses exist, that means rainbow unicorns with pegasus wings are real"

[@kevinturner9549]

So if a man can "identify" , simply by stating, as a woman and be a woman, why can't someone "identify" as black? Or younger for that matter?

[@kevinturner9549]

@noddingyeti Then what would make it true?

[@saoirse2963]

@noddingyeti So what does? Something like a soul? Why nobody can answer this question? And why that elusive thing can apply to race or any other identity?

[@goodpeople25]

Look above to see 3 transphobes having a confused circle jerk.

[@goodpeople25]

@noddingyeti Again observation. Stop projecting, bigot.

[@RELIGIOUSMEAT]

As a teenager born as a Female, who’s still questioning identity, who has never had a period and has big feet, does this mean i’m officially male? Yippee! Makes me questioning transitioning easier i suppose.

[@thecriticalmachine7866]

Born female = always female

[@calamityjean1525]

Re: "The Transpo Team": I think they were also trying to revive the old stereotype from the 1940s and earlier to the effect that women can't drive cars very well. The reference to a stick shift is what makes me think this.

[@ZakEmerald]

"No animal switches gender! God is against it!" First freedom of religion stop shoving yours as the only one, second: clownfish, frogs, snails/slugs, hawkfish, and MANY MORE. ANIMALS GO TO DIFFERENY GENDERS BIT

[@ogolthorp]

They’re making the frogs gay!

[@flamingturnip]

Animal behavior is one of a spanner in the works for transphobes. I loved that class in college.

[@ona512]

Penguins and chickens have done it too

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Chaotic Cousin Energy is back on our screens! Yay! Also, being offended at not hating marginalised people is not free speech. ✌🏽

[@timothyisstupid]

Real

[@ellamarie2350]

the monarch interview clip drives me insane. she's wailing repeating "no one cares!!", which actively proves how much she cares about it. wild that the host had to try to reel her back (unsuccessfully from what it seems)

[@thegoosegirl42]

I remember being 18 and talking to a classmate who was complaining that she couldn't tell if someone was a man or a woman by just walking down the street (you know because of woke and gay). My response was, why do you care? She said, I want to know. I said, well it's none of your business so...

[@baby.nay.]

So weird right ?! But like , I bet she didn’t want people transvestigating her right ?

[@userbunny14]

In Canada the LGBTQ+ community is referred to as LGBTQIA2S... it's long, but inclusive.

[@SuperJJParker]

What does it all stand for?

[@mjtruth1039]

@@SuperJJParker Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Intersex, Asexual, and 2 Spirit.

[@eyesistorm]

@@SuperJJParker Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Intersex, Asexual, and 2-Spirit.

[@grantmegan91]

​@@SuperJJParkerlesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, queer, intersex, asexual, 2 spirit.

[@Alucia0]

Q+ covers it though it's a shortened version of the whole thing

[@dark_galaxyy]

21:00 I NOW IDENTIFY AS A SPOON WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! (Big or little spoon, I like cuddles)

[@BEN_Like_This]

I love you and this comment lil bro. I’m a big spoon.

[@user_unknown_x_4759]

I love you two together. Perfect combo of entertainment

[@karowolkenschaufler7659]

been crocheting christmas ornaments while watching this. really good fun.

[@EdieBird]

I finished up knitting a big fluffy purple blanket I've been working on! KZbin time is good for handcrafting.

[@everogersdownunder1242]

A funny i have to share! Last night, when i was on our Community group that has people give back to the community with free items, there was a lady offering a free "Trump Book" of some kind. Not 1 person liked the post or commented asking if they can be considered for the item. 💀🤣😆💀🤣

[@nekoinu]

I wonder if the person who made the "identifying as a spoon" comment saw someone refer to themself as a spoonie and assumed it was a trans thing... Info: "Spoonie" is a disability term, referring to disabled people. It comes from "spoon theory", which is the idea that, as disabled people, we have a limited amount of energy, or spoons, to pull from each day. And different tasks have different energy/spoon requirements. So, say, for example, taking a shower is a 5 spoon task, making a phone call takes 3 spoons, and making a meal is 4 spoons. If I only have 10 spoons for a day, I can't have a shower AND make more than one meal that day unless I borrow from tomorrow's spoons (force myself to do it and push my body past it's energy limit) which then leaves me less spoons for tomorrow's tasks. And if a spoonie continually pushes themselves past their limit, it's gonna be incredibly detrimental to their health in the long run...

[@waffles3629]

It's highly likely. It's like someone calling themselves a zebra, they don't mean the actual animal, they mean they have a rare condition. It comes from the saying "When you hear hoofbeats look for horses, not zebras" because doctors will rule out the common things first. Sadly however upon not finding horses, many will claim you are fine and refuse to look for zebras.

[@ona512]

Oh of course the collateral damage of mental health is imminent.

[@rowanrobbins]

Ok, if Piers Morgan isn't stupid, I must say that he does a very convincing act.

[@Alucia0]

Nah he's not stupid. Unfortunetly he's very smart and knows exactly what he is doing. He's just an asshole

[@Soooootiredofthis]

Doubt I'll ever understand just how Piers managed to get to where he is. Just see him as being at the same level of ridiculous and idiotic as Trump. There's just no critical thinking, no comprehension of the world or other people's situations. He's like that slow kid at school that can't wrap their head around the fact teachers are there because it's their job and not because their parents send them to school each day like them

[@outtathepantry]

Love seeing this collab so much, you guys bounce off each other so well

[@nanni9615]

Meanwhile me (woman) in my cis het relationship walking around with my feet bigger than my hubbys.

[@manahakume9870]

can attest to being a woman with HUGE feet XD a womens 11 is near IMPOSSIBLE to find anything nice, i end up buying crocs as they are unisex and if i need 'real' shoes i have to buy mens 9's soooo :o

[@ona512]

Yea can only get work shoes in men's 9 because women's 10 is too thin at the ends. Even "wide" shoe sizes ww

[@ConflictingJumps]

Just letting everyone know if not already, 13:08 is a known right-wing agitator that has partnered up with further right-wing people such as tucker and promotes dr-gs

[@ona512]

Why do cultists have so much money for nothing jobs

[@ConflictingJumps]

@@ona512 i don't know

[@conlon4332]

When people talk about children getting unnecessary and harmful surgeries to their genitals, it's intersex children that happens to, not trans children, and please do go out and protest it because it's horrible and barbaric and should absolutely not be happening.

[@katrinadaly1755]

And yet no one seems to be up in arms about the whole ‘circumcision of babies’ thing, literally cutting skin off of a baby’s genitals but I guess that’s okay to them because ‘it’s Christian’ 🙄 The double standards drive me insane.

[@SpyderQueen1988]

The way people think trans issues are modern issues like Molly houses weren't a thing hundreds of years ago! LGBTQ+ history is so important to learn.

[@SuperJJParker]

It is literally a modern issue.

[@poptart2564]

What are molly houses?

[@SuperJJParker]

@@poptart2564 Place where LGBT people met up for sex

[@EggnogTheNog]

@@poptart256418th century underground queer clubs, basically.

[@eveningjaguar]

@@SuperJJParkerit’s not

[@pearsonminer1420]

Most detransitioners do so from a lack of support from family, friends &/or society in general. I’m sure some do as a result of a “mistake” on their part, but as Jamie said, many end up retransitioning again at some point because they’ve realized that they really are trans.

[@laurebourgeois4289]

We actually don't know, there are not enough studies to prove that.

[@Cheeseburgermagazine]

@@laurebourgeois4289 we have enough studies to show that wdym

[@Alex-gh8iu]

​@@laurebourgeois4289stay triggered about it, zionazi

[@Soooootiredofthis]

@@laurebourgeois4289 there's a few studies out that show figure for detransitioning reasons

[@laurebourgeois4289]

​@@Soooootiredofthis A few surveys is not a strong body of evidence. I know.

[@elking8373]

16:58 I don’t respect anyone that sounds like the “Cash Me Outside” girl. She’s talking as if she dropped out of middle school.

[@xakaryehlynn4749]

i love "like eating a rubic's cube" lmfao

[@kylethecherry-nosesanalite1723]

I'm going to add that to my regular vocabulary.

[@zero7769]

i guarantee you the girl at 17:00 would be uncomfortable if her friend came out as lesbian, bi or pan. like “omg do you have a crush on me??!!!”

[@Frankie_and_fwoggie]

Roly was truly first

[@clairejohn1620]

In multiple ways😂

[@IchigoShinagami]

Whenever the argument of: "Well can I identify as Black?" pseudo-argument comes on, I usually respond with something along the lines of: "Sincere transracial identity, should it actually exist, is a subject for an Academic Debate, not shitslinging on Twitter.". I could imagine someone being actually, truly transracial, and I hope there would be a way to make them happy. As far as I know, it isn't really a phenomenon (especially not as prominent as transgender ppl), but it it suddenly turns out that there is a community of ppl who truly feel that way, I think it should be studied like how transgender ppl were (and for us, it turned out that transition and acceptance are undeniably positive).

[@kevinturner9549]

It's a legitimate question. If a man can simply say he's a woman and he's a woman without any evidence at all. Then why can't someone identify as Chinese, younger, or another species even?

[@Lawrie-t4h]

@kevinturner9549 simple, there are cultures where identifying outside of your birth identity is fine, you can't identify as younger, you can look younger tho And identifying as a species isn't isn't the same as identify as a subset within your own species subsets, such a half armed understanding of biology and realuty

[@ISHA.W3ST]

​@@kevinturner9549When you say "man" are you referring to gender or sex?

[@Curiousmind-j8m]

I’m not even convinced there’s such thing as a ‘self’ let alone a ‘gendered self’. If you removed the brain from the body the brain would not be gendered. A self is like a mythological understanding of your brain being thrusted into the world- it’s not the same as the truth of simply being. The brain works mysteriously but always biologically! We try to understand it and label it but that’s not ‘it’. It is it. Wear whatever makes you feel comfortable. Change your physical body if it makes you feel peace. But what is gender but words and social construct? Like this role, hate that role, but none of it is a ‘gendered self’ but an imprint of culture upon your understanding of your consciousness. Again there’s not necessarily even a self. We’ve evolved to have this illusion of self so I entertain it and be introspective. I believe it does helps you feel/understand what it is to be conscious in this world but know that not the same as reality. Gender to me does not seem helpful but regressive and pure stereotypes. I can’t think of a single gendered reality- please send an list of examples if you think otherwise. Or an female or male ‘essence’. There are some behavioral differences between men and women and due to our physical and hormonal makeup and as a result we are evolved to have societal roles that suited that. But that was a case of survival- men don’t have to hunt and women don’t have to gather anymore. Do roles benefits us now or simply divide us? Why do we gender something now? To cook? To clean? To be emotional? To have big feet? To have hairy pits? Seems just so limiting, regressive and fictional. That said be yourself, just BE and that absolutely includes trans people! This whole debate is pure language, what is a woman? Trans woman? Biological woman? Biological woman need spaces separate to biological men- that shouldn’t be controversial. Trans woman aren’t biological woman although you can induce some biological changes otherwise there’d be no ‘transition’ from one to another. Culturally (although culture like the self is not reality but myth-based reality and that’s a feature within society) trans women are women. So let’s also make space for trans people. Be kind. Be open. Don’t shut people down for have different opinions and don’t make assumptions. I talk from my own understanding of being which for all of us is unique but what we all share is that fact we all be. I come from no place of hate or wanting to hurt. I would love discussion.

[@havenprizmich9217]

If we somehow developed a Time Machine for the people that want to live in the 50’s the republicans would call it woke and keep complaining online

[@celestialrodent]

"if you don't know me, die" is an INCREDIBLE line

[@chickentv1870]

YES! the team up of the century! I love both your videos, nice to see you two react together!

[@anomalyfox5186]

I’d actually like to correct the “drilling holes in people’s heads to relieve headaches”. I’m fairly certain that Roly is referring to Trepanning, an ancient practice which was supposedly used to release evil spirits from people’s heads, but has been found in modern day to actually be useful for thing like inflammation of the meninges.

[@stormthescarred2211]

It's also used in the event of a brain bleed when surgeons need to drain the excess blood

[@conlon4332]

27:30 I find it so frustrating when people talk about intersex people being a "ting minority" in comparison to trans people, when the estimates I've heard are that about 2% of people are intersex and about 1% of people are trans. So there are twice as many intersex people than trans people, but somehow trans people are such an important topic of conversation but intersex people are an almost-irrelevant exception to be mentioned to cover yourself and then completely brush over. So frustrating.

[@YoutuberGrudge]

Little story from work, I got called the F-slur by a person I caught stealing. All I did was agree with everything she yelled at me right out the door! I said to my coworkers, "Is that all she's got? Cuz if so, she's gotta get more creative."

[@ShotoNemar]

All 3 of my trans friends are so much happier being the gender they were born to be. Being cis-gender, I am a huge trans ally, and part if it is because of them. They are amazing people in my life.

[@chayduddell6141]

This is why I have nothing left. 20 years of hiding me and what a fantastic time to accept me for who I have wanted to be. And we have these prix so happy in their lives free of doubt.... why now? We need more of you two helping people that can be helped, and I love you keep going but I do wish we could talk about this 20 years ago

[@WildJJasmine]

I’m so glad I found this video, Jamie. I needed something to make me smile to take my mind off of the nightmare election news in my country this morning. The USA is in deep trouble, and I am broken hearted.

[@kevinturner9549]

No, Trump won! Everything is great!!!

[@Alex-gh8iu]

​@@kevinturner9549ok nazi

[@kevinturner9549]

​@@Alex-gh8iuWoman? The one that lost, you know what she is?

[@ISHA.W3ST]

​@@kevinturner9549"Woman" Friendly reminder: Kevin Turner is using Oxford Languages for his definition of a woman (an adult female human being), and he will reject any other definition He used this definition because it's the first thing that pops up on Google when you type "define woman" and he will call this dictionary "THE dictionary" But he chooses to ignore that his dictionary has this in it as well: "GENDER 1. the male sex or the female sex, especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones, or one of a range of other identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female SEX 2. either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions GENDER IDENTITY a person's innate sense of their gender (chiefly used in contexts where it is contrasted with the sex registered for them at birth). TRANSGENDER denoting or relating to a person whose gender identity does not correspond with the sex registered for them at birth. CISGENDER denoting or relating to a person whose gender identity corresponds with the sex registered for them at birth; not transgender TRANS WOMAN a person who was registered as male at birth but who lives and identifies as a woman; a transgender woman HIJRA (in South Asia) a person who was registered as male at birth but who identifies as female or as neither male nor female. AGENDER denoting or relating to a person who does not identify as having a gender BIGENDER denoting or relating to a person whose gender identity encompasses two genders PANGENDER denoting or relating to a nonbinary person whose gender identity encompasses multiple genders, which may be experienced simultaneously or in a fluid, fluctuating manner. NONBINARY 2. denoting, having, or relating to a gender identity that does not conform to traditional binary beliefs about gender, which indicate that all individuals are exclusively either male or female GENDER-FLUID denoting or relating to a person who does not identify as having a single unchanging gender. GENDERQUEER denoting or relating to a person whose gender identity does not correspond to conventional binary gender distinctions. THIRD GENDER a category of people who do not identify as male or female, but rather as neither, both, or a combination of male and female genders."

[@lduker9731]

“Gay men trying the get uteruses” my god that is crazy.

[@laurebourgeois4289]

Crazy reality

[@Alex-gh8iu]

​@@laurebourgeois4289nope, coward

[@cjbird446]

​@@laurebourgeois4289lmfao okay, guess I'll just mosey on to the hospital and steal myself a uterus

[@Cheeseburgermagazine]

@@laurebourgeois4289 WHAT

[@laurebourgeois4289]

​@@cjbird446You wouldn't be the first.

[@lunaandrine8567]

I would also react on there being tampons in men's bathroom because I never seen it in women bathroom either

[@katz680]

The irony of using race as an example of "choosing" to identify as something. Race is a societal construct. The genetics that code for melanin production simply allow for a phenotype that may or may not be expressed as a result of interactions between chemicals and your cells, which is also precisely how gender works. You can modify your skin color pretty extensively if you don't feel comfortable with your appearance. And there are many different groups of people with naturally dark skin tones that do not fit the general concept of "black", and many light skinned people who do. And to top it all, the vast majority of people do not "identify" solely as the color of their skin, but rather a combination of ancestry, cultural heritage and citizenship.

[@glitterbitesback]

Another trans issue (that Buck Angel actually brought to light in my world and speaks about a lot) is the denial of healthcare because of all this leads to death. There’s a whole bunch of trans people that haven’t had surgery or full surgery and still need things like Pap smears, mammograms and testicular cancer screenings even though they present as the opposite sex. An example is the death of Robert Eads. He was refused care because doctors were worried he would put their practice in jeopardy and he got ovarian cancer and died. I really recommend the documentary “Southern Comfort”.

[@kokichi4015]

15:56 As a trans man, I haven’t had a period since August 2024. I started testosterone only 2 weeks before my last period and I haven’t had one since. Even if I did still get a period, that wouldn’t make me less of a man anyways. Also, there are plenty of cis women who don’t get periods for a variety of reasons. I personally know multiple women who are at the age where they would be menstruating, but they don’t due to having a hysterectomy. People who don’t understand anything about trans people and the process of transitioning don’t have the right to speaking so much hate towards us. People like that don’t understand how hormones and surgeries can change our bodies, yet they speak as though they know everything. And those who can’t or don’t want to medically transition are still entirely valid in their identity. We aren’t choosing to be trans.

[@transmysticalman]

39:21 the antisemitic stereotype being projected onto trans people is quite spooky ngl

[@danielomar9712]

They really can't keep the "OyveyGoyim!" Inside while speaking about other minorities, it always boils out , somehow

[@jaconbran2367]

It’s so bizarre people like Pierce Morgan are given a bigger voice and platform than doctors and scientists 😢

[@jaconbran2367]

As well as researchers and the overwhelming majority of people from said communities experiences

[@kevinturner9549]

​@@jaconbran2367Um, no man has ever become a woman. Simple fact.

[@HaruOkumera]

​@@kevinturner9549How much of this is factual? Developmental Biology, 6th Edition. Primary sex determination is the determination of the gonads. In mammals, primary sex determination is strictly chromosomal and is not usually influenced by the environment. In most cases, the female is XX and the male is XY. Every individual must have at least one X chromosome. Since the female is XX, each of her eggs has a single X chromosome. The male, being XY, can generate two types of sperm: half bear the X chromosome, half the Y. If the egg receives another X chromosome from the sperm, the resulting individual is XX, forms ovaries, and is female; if the egg receives a Y chromosome from the sperm, the individual is XY, forms testes, and is male. The Y chromosome carries a gene that encodes a testis-determining factor. This factor organizes the gonad into a testis rather than an ovary. Unlike the situation in Drosophila (discussed below), the mammalian Y chromosome is a crucial factor for determining sex in mammals. A person with five X chromosomes and one Y chromosome (XXXXXY) would be male. Furthermore, an individual with only a single X chromosome and no second X or Y (i.e., XO) develops as a female and begins making ovaries, although the ovarian follicles cannot be maintained. For a complete ovary, a second X chromosome is needed. In mammalian primary sex determination, there is no “default state.” The formation of ovaries and testes are both active, gene-directed processes. Moreover, as we shall see, both diverge from a common precursor, the bipotential gonad. Secondary sex determination affects the bodily phenotype outside the gonads. A male mammal has a penis, seminal vesicles, and prostate gland. A female mammal has a vagina, cervix, uterus, oviducts, and mammary glands. In many species, each sex has a sex-specific size, vocal cartilage, and musculature. These secondary sex characteristics are usually determined by hormones secreted from the gonads"

[@DinosaurNick]

"Look at your feet." "Period will never go away." "Women don't grow facial hair." Me an AFAB agender person with size 10 feet, facial hair, and had a hysterectomy .... I'm also on E because of my hysterectomy so I bet you because I have facial hair and am on E transphobes will call me a man

[@SillyTopHatFrog]

Dude my afab mom (she’s NB) grows facial hair and have massive feet like what do these “we can always tell” people doing😭

[@DinosaurNick]

@@SillyTopHatFrog ikr lmao their logic is so broken! Also, curious, you said your mom is NB ... but she goes by she/her?

[@SillyTopHatFrog]

@ she goes by she/they It’s just easier for me to use she/her pronouns because that’s what I’m used to and she’s okay with it

[@DinosaurNick]

@@SillyTopHatFrog Ohhh that's cool ^^ Mine are they/them (I also have a few neos but not really used irl)

[@SillyTopHatFrog]

@ mine are fey/fem (haven’t told anyone besides my online friends yet though)

[@Redflagnabbimahazardsign]

Under an hour and my fav is here!?!? Damnnn is it my birthday?

[@greyjerby-bw3im]

Something interesting is it is generally agreed that people with cancer should seek the treatments medicine suggests when people have faked cancer or have been misdiagnosed with it. People recognize how important treatment is for the people who do need it and recognize that they are the most likely to receive care. They see that not receiving the necessary medical care can be fatal. In no way saying being trans is cancerous, a lot of these points make sense for trans people. Trans people who need medical assistance are demeaned for the treatments they need, and the affects of not getting can be fatal.

[@LucasBuilds]

Yess, I've been waiting for this half of the collab to drop!

[@resourceress7]

The cis white woman who made the comment about look at your feet is also choosing to attempt to speak African American Vernacular English.

[@John_Weiss]

And probably because she got it from RuPaul's Drag Race. Good luck, girl, when you're relegated to a man's property, like women still were 100 years ago.

[@onryoart584]

I think it’s interesting how for example Vikings are used as some kinda super masculine thing but when you look at actual history, if those Vikings were to choose who they would look up to it would more likely be the wig wearing man from the 1700 rather than the hyper masculine image that has developed in the last 200 years. (The source of this info: Vikingen by Anna Lihammer & Ted Hesselbom) (Don’t know if the book exists in more than Swedish) The way of gender expression has changed so much over time so it’s crazy to me that people are freaking out about it so much, just let people live.

[@argenieuwenhuijzen2557]

If I see it correctly the guy from 12:45 is also a rightwing grifter. Samantha Lux did an item on that guy last week. He pretended to be doing a "social experiment".

[@that-mccormick-guy]

actually despite the name BSA (Boyscouts of America) started accepting girls in their ranks in 2017 and had the first woman eagle scout in 2020. (and 2017 is officially across the board, i had a girl in my group when i was in elementary school back in 90s)

[@ChronicNewb]

I don’t normally talk about this, but when i was a teenager, my mom bullied me into getting rhinoplasty. I am a real life example of the transphobes’ straw man, and I still support age-appropriate gender affirming care. The bigots aren’t concerned for the children, because none of them gave a shit when it happened to me. My glasses will slip off my nose for the rest of my life 😢 but this experience was the first step toward breaking out of my mom’s fear mongering and embracing my non-binary expression, so perhaps it was a price well paid.

[@thecriticalmachine7866]

@Alex-gh8iu Reporting you, you know.

[@ChronicNewb]

@@thecriticalmachine7866 I didn't see that user reply here did you get the wrong comment?

[@thecriticalmachine7866]

@@ChronicNewb His comment must have disappeared now.