Progressive Field is in bad shape right now...

Discussing Progressive Field and other MLB Stadiums
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[@ares6681]

bro have you been to a game this year??? you don't get a valid opinion till you see it in person.

[@MarkowskyArt]

I was at the Guardians home opener a few weeks ago, and my seats were a few sections away from those sections they took out along the third base line. It actually looked great, and there were hundreds of people standing around there drinking and hanging out. I later walked around the ballpark and I personally thought the stadium looked really cool and had that brand-new quality! It did have some other strange standing room viewing areas, particularly around center field, that instead of feeling like mistakes, felt more like fun quirks that you expect to see in much older buildings like Wrigley. The only thing that irked me was the signage and way-finding was poor and it took me longer than it should have for me to find my way to my seats.

[@BaseballNum5]

Oh stop it. I was just there this past weekend. Upper right was a massive improvement. It will look spectacular next year when complete. You just love to hate on this stadium.

[@chalesgolding5314]

You can’t change the entire identity of a franchise as storied as the Cleveland Indians and expect zero consequences , as far as many Indians fans are concerned the Guardians are dead to us…

[@dubvuchyea502]

Indeed

[@SeanPorter-z4r]

And yet here you are, watching videos about the Guardians. I guess they aren't quite dead to you, huh?

[@chrismorin51]

Changing the name has nothing to do with their attendance issues. It’s been bad for the better part of 15 years

[@UncleGabe216]

What if they win?

[@RB01.10]

Storied? Haven’t won a championship in over 75 years.

[@MegaSlowe]

It's the ownership of the team. That's the issue. And it's been that way for over 20 years. The dolans bought the team from Dick Jacobs in the early 2000s. Immediately, they blew the team up, and before you knew it, everybody that you associated with the Indians in the mid to late '90s was gone. . The dolans have always been looked at as cheapskates and recipients of MLB welfare. They look at the franchise as a way to make money, and not win. Nobody's saying that they should pull a New York Mets and just blow through money like there's no tomorrow. But everybody can see that the Dolan's are not real serious about winning. In fact, I think that they are trying to eke out every dollar they can get from this franchise before they ultimately sell it in the not too distant future.

[@lawdog133]

Exactly! Mistake after mistake, they do not care what the fans want or think.

[@jesse1834]

Bingo!

[@LaptopLarry330]

The attendance numbers went down at Progressive Field when Ford closed their engine plant in the Greater Cleveland area. They lost much of their upper middle-class fans that could afford to buy game tickets on a regular basis.

[@cumulus1234]

EV sales are bad so that plant may reopen again

[@sirchi8731]

​@@cumulus1234they better

[@ronclark9724]

It's a problem with many of the MLB teams, ticket prices have skyrocketed beyond the means of the poor and lower middle class. In the Cleveland area there are a few minor league teams not too far away with considerably cheaper tickets... MiLB baseball is the best value for sports entertainment nationwide, with seats closer to the infield action...

[@andreadeamon6419]

​@umulus1234 the one on Brookpark rd and the one in Walton hills are completely gone. Not sure about the one off of 90

[@scottmalek3482]

Numbers are down all across America because the Republican politicians have destroyed the middle class because Republican politicians only care about the super rich and the one percenters,

[@oliverlowe5281]

Let’s go Cleveland. They should have kept the Indians but to me they’re still the tribe. Plus they got really good tv ratings. Lots of people watch them on TV

[@wrsawy]

They will always be the Indians!

[@lunatik316]

How can you criticize a stadium that’s dead in the middle of an renovation. Wait till the place is complete first. I’m in Cleveland & been to Progressive & our stadium is STILL beautiful. It’s a work in progress. Judge it next season once it’s complete man.

[@UncleGabe216]

Dude must be a stadium 🏟️ expert

[@somebodyandthem]

He’s a Biden expert

[@drumitar]

Chief WAHOO told me this would happen.

[@stevencramsie9172]

That guy doesn’t exist anymore, time to move on

[@PittsburghMarky]

@@stevencramsie9172 Chief Wahoo lives forever. I know the merchandise is still sold.

[@alexdudley2917]

Attendance is up

[@flashoflight8160]

Your opinion doesn't count. You don't visit any of the stadiums in person recently. So easy to tell someone else to fry in the Texas heat from a comfy computer with AC running just to be a purist.

[@OsuCards]

Was going to say. Anything is better than the shipping containers

[@MarkDaSilva-z9i]

I agree. They were horrible.

[@jimbo-john_1.21_1.5]

I gotta say, I’ve been there a couple times now post-renovations and I’ve been pleasantly surprised. I don’t think the new areas look near as bad as this guy says, and they seem like cool places to chill and watch the game. Low attendance isn’t just a stadium issue. It’s a combination of bad ownership, name change induced apathy, bad weather in the first months of the season, and a primarily blue collar fanbase that just doesn’t buy a ton of tickets (especially in a bad economy). Come summer, if the teams still winning, attendance will get a boost

[@teamx-bladz]

how long until they ban indians gear at progressive field?

[@Wizardsleave69]

Right

[@elmomonster6043]

They won’t and Cannot

[@stevencramsie9172]

Eventually, you’ll only be able to get stuff like that from Chinese knockoffs. Hope it’s worth it lmao

[@Wizardsleave69]

@@stevencramsie9172 it is worth it to take merchandise profits from woke owners and management

[@kamikazefireball]

Should be called regressive field

[@marblox9300]

Guardians.??? Really.??? Should have renamed them the Savages. Cleveland Savages.

[@deco983]

Guardians is such a weird name to a MLB team!

[@stevencramsie9172]

As the years go by, people will consider Guardians the normal name and anything else, including Indians, will sound weird and dated.

[@thisguyjones2864]

It’s for these giant statues adorning a nearby bridge.

[@PittsburghMarky]

@@thisguyjones2864 And that's so much better than honoring Louis Sockalexis, isn't it (!).

[@e3erockstar08]

Dolans.

[@andreadeamon6419]

Suck!!

[@shortyzander1341]

Indians 2016 attendance Avg was 19,650. Guardians 2023 attendance Avg 23,513. Attendance aint going down its fluctuates up and down 2-3 thousand

[@lionsfan7500]

Zack I'm so glad your back for the 2024 mlb season. I've been so busy I haven't been able to watch any of your awesome videos. I finally have some free time today and I'm so excited to binge watch all your new videos today. Keep up the AWESOME WORK my friend!

[@rodz341]

That’s DGs name? ZACK?

[@michaelbaucom4019]

Changing the team name and Jim Crow Joe's economy is keeping Cleveland fans away The Giants' attendance is high due to season ticket sales...if the team is out of contention, those season ticket holders are disguised as empty seats. And, while not as cold as Candlestick Park was, it still gets cold at Oracle...which brings down attendance if the team isn't contending/some school night games DG claiming retractable roofs should be open 60 % of the time...tell us you haven't been in Texas, Arizona or Florida during the summer without telling us you haven't been in Texas, Arizona, or Florida during the summer...

[@ronclark9724]

Why open the roofs when it's dark outside after the sun sets? You can see the stars when you walk to your car in the parking lot after the game...

[@DanB-ez8fz]

I remember the Oakland Coliseum in 1996 when Mt. Davis was being constructed during the Athletics’ season, complete with jackhammering during games, and what was then-Anaheim Stadium in 1997, when most of the outfield seating sections were ripped out. Progressive Field looks completely fine, and is improving.

[@Patrick-hm4eg]

Flo will save the day.

[@good_teanice_house6789]

Toronto got their renovation right.

[@stevenundisclosed6091]

As someone who remembers the sellouts of the 90s, it sucks to see the stadium in this shape. Jacobs Field was beautiful in the 90s.

[@supremeb3563]

Disappointed with your MLB stadium in 2024, "You relocate to Nashville."

[@willisskull2676]

A lot of my Indian friends are upset that Cleveland changed the name to Guardians. I use the term Indian instead of Native American because the closer you get to reservations, the more people use the term Indian. I used Native American for years trying to be respectful and not confuse with people from India. It's toxic white people that force the term Native American on people and want to eliminate all the Indian based team names. The name change is not the only issue with the franchise. Good luck to the Guardian fanbase and if they choose to either support or leave the franchise, I support their decision.

[@zcorpalpha2462]

Us Braves ain’t changing Sh$t 😂

[@willisskull2676]

@@zcorpalpha2462 Glad to hear it.

[@TheAlmightyClipse]

@@zcorpalpha2462 Funny, considering they did away with a Native American logo in 1989. You clearly got no idea of "your teams" history.

[@zcorpalpha2462]

@@TheAlmightyClipse Don’t dare play with what you don’t understand Skippy I suggest you walk away

[@andreadeamon6419]

​@@TheAlmightyClipsechief was still around until after their last world series game. Sometime in the early 2000s

[@kaplezedrummer24ify]

It's really not the stadiums fault It's Cleveland in the middle of freaking April. It's chilly, it's cold, it's wet

[@markh1142]

Damn thats sad . that ballpark used to be the envy of all owners who wanted a new ballpark for their teams back in the 1990s. And it was sold out for years

[@philsalasek5063]

Don’t pay any attention to this jackwagon. The place looks fine, and it’s only halfway finished. He hasn’t been there in person to make a judgment on it.

[@SeanPorter-z4r]

This dope just keeps regurgitating the same nonsense...

[@shortyzander1341]

for real. like make a video when its done and stop shitting on a project thats unfinished

[@DanB-ez8fz]

@@shortyzander1341He often produces videos for the sake of producing them, and repeats the same points over and over again within them.

[@dwaynehoward240]

Bro it's cold AF in Cleveland

[@andreadeamon6419]

I agree. That's why i moved south

[@marblox9300]

Pro Sports is not what it used to be. Too much tax payer money involved and people are pissed.

[@dogcowrph]

Thank you FJB for ruining baseball with the rest of the country.

[@mattyg4186]

A better solution would’ve been to never remove seats to out the shipping containers in and left the seats alone who cares if it’s empty you want to fill seats 2 simple fixes 1. But a good team on the field 2. Lower your ticket prices all the owners are billionaires let their pockets hurt.

[@shortyzander1341]

I have walked around both upper deck sections and think they both look nice. The upper right deck isnt finished yet but the upper left deck above the Guardians banner is a really nice beer station with tons of nice standing room

[@donbean]

I actually visited progressive field (and PNC) two weeks ago.. At first it feels bigger due to the way it's sunken from street level.. They had alot of bars in there.. It's a good field just not new anymore...

[@markeschen]

Those upper left field seats in Oracle have always been sparcely used. even if they sell 40,000 tickets (at or close to capacity), half those seats are empty.

[@Ryan-sp4jn]

I am a season ticket holder. I gurantee none of the people in these comments live in the city or attend as many games as I do. The stadium renovations that have been completed look good. It sucks that there’s construction zones sitting there but overall the improvements have been a net positive.

[@tmac29nyc]

I'm not from Cleveland but this guy complain about everything

[@ronpeacock9939]

Owners need to remember... the fans come for the games.. not to see the stadium... the arena just is where they play. On top of that.. cleveland this time of year is NOT a pleasant place to sit outside.. Right now it's below 50 degrees and with the wind coming off that giant glass of icewater (lake erie).. it's bleepin cold. Why does anyone think a cold weather team will draw in April? Even teh Yankees draw like crap in april... and to reno a stadium thinking it's going to draw more fans? FOOLSGOLD... more wins draws more fans.. of course rebranding a team against the wishes fo the fans don't help either...

[@zcorpalpha2462]

This guy is obsessed with stadiums 🏟️ 😂

[@xl-in1sb]

That skeleton look is horrible, the shipping containers looked way better than this. Iv never been there but The Jake or Progressive or whatever it goes by was always one of my favorite ballparks visually

[@shortyzander1341]

When you are in the ballpark it looks really nice actually. This guy is just being way too harsh

[@xl-in1sb]

Thats cool to know, iv never been in person but i am one of the probably minority of people that thought the shipping containers looked cool. I dont really understand the big deal Ginger makes about empty seats 🤷‍♂️, the more seats the better the prices for fans plus its more seats for concerts and events

[@markeschen]

Closed shops on King Street are nothing new. It's been like that since the stadium opened, even during the early 2010's sellout streak. There simply isn't any reason to head to that area of the city 285 days a year, so the bars and restaurants.

[@manuelgrothe608]

The Cleveland Browns should play at Progressive Park while the Guardians get a new Stadium in Brooks Park

[@smokey_gator_239]

Go Tribe!!

[@andymurphy8403]

It’s cold in CLE until June. They’ll fill seats in the summer if the team is still playing good baseball. But this is a team that has not been invested in for many years and somehow they compete most seasons. The AL Central isn’t super competitive… At least it’s not the Browns train wreck. Go Cavs!

[@willp.8120]

Northern fans like to crap on any slight southern teams have with attendance, such as Miami and Tampa, but they selectively ignore that most northern cities have generally low attendance these days. Cleveland, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Chicago White Sox, Cincinnati, Minnesota, Kansas City, Baltimore, Washington, NY Mets, all terrible. The only. Northern teams with decent to good attendance are the NY Yankees, Philadelphia, Boston, Chicago Cubs, St. Louis, and Milwaukee.

[@eyeofthescar6890]

Not much different from what the A's did with some sections in the Coliseum after the Raiders left.

[@mikes7446]

Damn how many times do they change the name to the Arena across the way.. Chits had like 6 different names in the past 6 seasons.

[@Ryan-sp4jn]

Quite literally only 3 times in its existence kid

[@shortyzander1341]

@@Ryan-sp4jn And they just extended the name until 2036 or something like that lol

[@durrburger2834]

It looks way better in person with people in the stands

[@cjones3710]

Ya think. It's the Jake. The Indians look so goofy wearing guardians on their shirt. I'm feel bad for Indians baseball fans. Cleveland was always fun to play on 90s and the Jake looks terrible now. Look at those stupid lights on the hacked up upper deck. Baseball is wrecking its Cathedrals. They do not want to see cheap seats to families. Would rather have a drunk yuppie dropping hundreds on alcohol. This is short sighted thinking since Manfred took over. Never cared less about a game I loved. And The Orioles are exciting to watch. It so sad to see the state of the game mismatched sandlot uniforms. You know what I don't like by now. What have they done to the JAKE. OH NO

[@jeffp7073]

You should a video on bowling attendance

[@zcorpalpha2462]

Minds well, He covers everything else 😂

[@MikeSuth4040]

I live near ATT park and it needs a baseball town around the baseball stadium with a lot of businesses near that area. and they don't have a lot of businesses in that area.

[@lastyle7363]

blue seats will be added in 3 total phases...

[@PittsburghMarky]

This team died when they got rid of Chief Wahoo. Have not watched a game since the name change.

[@albertpacella1846]

It’s the bad weather. It’s just been cold. We had one weekend series with warm weather and attendance was good. I think this is going to be a good year for attendance once the weather breaks

[@willp.8120]

Always an excuse for northerners, yet always extremely biased against southern teams attendance.

[@zcorpalpha2462]

My PS4 game, Cleveland vs Yankees in ALCS 😂

[@dakotamorehouse9947]

I think the super beans make it look cool! It’s different but I really like it!

[@jamestodd6101]

Sorry this is a terrible armchair take. It’s a beautiful stadium and most of the changes are positive. Attendance at 22nd is equivalent to where Cleveland ranks in market size so it is exactly as expected.

[@BoulderCityBlues]

When you pay hitters millions of dollars who bat .220 and give pitchers millions who only pitch 3 innings every 4 days guess who pays for them , the fans do .. Baseball is pricing itself of business ..It’s not the stadiums , its owners and players greed who keeps the people away because they can’t afford to go . Attendance will continue to stink for a majority of teams unless they win .. And even when they win people don’t go .. Just ask the Tampa Bay Rays ..

[@Tank4Life]

Replacing the iconic seats with blue seats shows how out of touch the ownership is with its fan base. Those decks they built are awful. You cant even see the playing field from most of the decks. You have to be on the rail to see the game. Is rather see empty seats than those decks. Taking out the Terrace Club is a horrific idea. Another iconic feature removed. The upper deck right field area you talked of were already restrooms. They just left them. The right field deck is for group functions only. Theyre calling it the "Pennant District". They completely ruined the entire park. Every renovation has been bad. Moving the bullpens was bad. All the standing room and bar rails are beyond stupid. No one wants to stand at a bar rail. The seats changing to blue is an awful idea. The original seating had a cool design on the pieces which has been replaced with their generic block C. Changing the team name, the ballpark renovations all provr ownership is not in touch with the fans. Not even a little.

[@eriewarrior]

You are so full of crap. Was there Sunday and it looks great. Better than the shipping containers.

[@Wizardsleave69]

Go woke go broke

[@BARB_BLOX]

Huh?

[@Hydra48]

@@BARB_BLOX They think changing from the Indians to the Guardians is "going woke"

[@reh303]

Define woke.

[@sirchi8731]

​@@Hydra48he is kinda right you know. Could have been the "Cleveland Tribe" or keep the name Indians

[@Wizardsleave69]

@@Hydra48 then what is it? If it isn't woke

[@rodz341]

I don’t get how any of this is bad .

[@philsalasek5063]

Again, you have no clue what you are talking about. April attendance has always been poor, BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER. Attendance has actually been ahead of last year’s pace, so do a little research or just use common sense. The changes aren’t completed, but most people actually like them, but you wouldn’t know that, because you haven’t been there.

[@dakotamorehouse9947]

I think it will last way longer than 15 years! I think it will last at least 30 years!

[@nicholasuszko]

I think this notion of Progressive field being "Bad" is laughable. Attendance is up so far from last year, which was up from 22. Locally, people love the stadium, and seats are not what people have Said they want, Every new bar area and standing areas are very popular. Not to mention the lease agreement can extend to the around 2046.

[@Parlimant_Strifey]

I don't even know what he is talking about, turns out Cleveland. Sounds like a Washington stadium to me.

[@timothyhenry5454]

In this generation I believe baseball is dying

[@ngaby97]

They’ve played 4 fewer home games than most MLB teams and it’s April in Ohio lol wait until summer

[@ChiefMac]

Their not done.

[@ryankelly7957]

It's a beautiful park. Always has been. Just give it time.

[@Justin-pq3rq]

A lot of it right now is the weather. It’s been cold and rainy. Also. The Athletics. If u take away the loses to the Guardians they would be 9-9. And they only played the White Sox 3 games. We’re 24 games into the season. Everyone has played a bad team. Or two. They’re good. They just won 92 games in 2022. They’re even better than that team.

[@solodolo528]

TIME FOR A NEW BALLPARK

[@Anthony-yg1fs]

Dumb

[@solodolo528]

@@Anthony-yg1fs not dumb lmao its a terrible ballpark

[@Anthony-yg1fs]

@@solodolo528 they can't even fill up their current ballpark. Dolans will never build a new stadium. Keep dreaming buddy.

[@solodolo528]

@@Anthony-yg1fs im not a cleveland fan i don't give a fuck just tired of hearing about this stadium careless billionaires doing careless billionaire stuff and its an ugly ballpark

[@solodolo528]

@@Anthony-yg1fs buddy

[@SY35_Productions]

FedEx Field of Baseball

[@hs5331]

bottom 5 MLB stadium

[@stephenking8104]

Have to disagree on the seats. The upper deck would look better with red seats.

[@willtrovinger4444]

They should have kept the Indians and the old logo

[@mikes7446]

whatever they did, made it look from bad to worse.

[@thefieldG]

I like oracle park man

[@fluoriteheals]

More like Regressive Field ugh

[@donellclemons2195]

They need to change the name to like the warriors or something

[@kaplezedrummer24ify]

It kooks incredible you're just bitter

[@dwaynehoward240]

Bro u sound like a hater. U funny know about this city

[@dariokatic1502]

Like your videos but this is fake news

[@fluoriteheals]

looks worse

[@jayp.6166]

First!

[@jayp.6166]

I actually don't mind Progressive Field. Until last season, It looked like PNC Park compared to the Stadium I've been watching baseball in for the last 35 years....SkyDome lol...and yes I said SkyDome....no one calls it "Rogers Centre"

[@plmuzik21]

This dude hating I live in Cleveland nothing what he say

[@ig_BLJHsports]

I think that the white Sox could move to Charlotte since their minor league AAA is located there. If they were to move

[@willp.8120]

It should happen. I also think population shifts in the country could possibly have some of these northern rust belt teams moving South where many of the metros are already larger by population. The Southeast is severely underserved in teams, despite being the region with the highest population. MLB operates like population patterns are still 1970.