Project Code Rush - The Beginnings of Netscape / Mozilla Documentary

[@samuel.soderberg]

I’ve watched this documentary far too many times. It captures everything about IT in the 90’s so perfectly well!

[@extrarice192]

me also..

[@jco7551]

@@TheTesting1239 You might enjoy this one -- not exactly a documentary meant for wide release but an incredible snapshot of a specific era of 90s videogame tester culture: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6e7m5qfi5Zrn8k

[@_DML_]

It is nice. I wish more had been made like it.

[@MauriceKon]

I love how at the end he said that this whole internet thing can easily turn into television with only a few people controlling what we see. that so became true ....

[@jerrogance]

Hopefully we saw it coming in time, and that the blockchain prevents censorship.

[@KidTonyGaming]

@@jerrogance the internet became television when PayPal started KZbin

[@thorable530]

@@jerrogance still up in the air and more of a danger than ever, and even more disturbing now that mozilla is completely compromised.

[@jerrogance]

@@thorable530 Use the brave browser.

[@tommullins2869]

@@jerrogancethis aged poorly.

[@StJimmy89]

"Computers aren't the thing, they're the thing that gets you to the thing"

[@alainportant6412]

you are fat

[@akandr]

Halt and Catch Fire, what a great show

[@MatthewReiser123]

Was an engineer at Netscape 1996-98. Much of that time was a blur. I can certainly relate to 35:24

[@jabasso]

Man! You made history then!

[@mr.h.4501]

Hopefully, you were one of the millionaires sitting in the neighboring cubicles the video made mentioned of and your time at Netscape was rewarding for you.

[@alainportant6412]

How did you get a verified channel with two videos of a parking lot and 33 subscribers ??

[@sheev4958]

@@alainportant6412 what are you talking about? his channel it is not verified.

[@alainportant6412]

@@sheev4958 it was but not anymore though

[@JustWickedSwede]

Oh Netscape.. You brought me much joy. :)

[@MylarBalloonLove]

I used Netscape in the early 2000s... good browser R.I.P. Netscape 1994-2008

[@iconofsin1043]

Same

[@mgabrysSF]

I arrived in Silicon Valley (the first time anyway long-term) just before the bubble burst in April of 2000. Even at the tail-end it was an insane experience. Thx for posting!

[@kajzec]

Year after year, I come back to this documentary for ... a glimpse into the 90's Silicon Valley tech scene, inspiration, nostalgia for a time and place I haven't wasn't a part of? I don't know. But there is something about this documentary that drives me to it.

[@uToobeD]

Is it just me or were companies *remarkably* open back then? I can't see this document being made today. It's a real gem, I honestly have learned so much from it, I seem to see it every few years or so and each time I am coming at it from a new perspective.

[@hinkhall5291]

If you build software this doc is both very interesting and anxiety inducing.

[@p0rq]

So true, Hank. I build software and software accessories and this all feels very relatable.

[@ProgrammerInProgress]

I thoroughly enjoyed this, it's great to see as a developer how software was written by teams in the 90's, it seemed pretty chaotic, with developers setting their hours of work, anyone who writes code knows it's way too tempting to keep working and working at a problem and burning out in the process. For the most part, there's a lot of structure and sanity in the industry, architecture plays a much bigger role, and the tools have improved immensely, but none of this would have happened without the folk in this video.

[@p0rq]

Yeah. I’m no agile enthusiast, but the way he talked about marathons vs sprints, how you need to keep running, rather than going in bursts, had me like hmmmmmm

[@HashimAziz1]

Probably the best tech documentary I've seen to date. Packs so much into such a short running time, especially about the actual process of writing and debugging code.

[@Tux.Penguin]

Glad I watched this. Tons of colorful detail in the story, a story I often wondered about but never really knew.

[@rajkimo]

How have I missed this? I'm about to watch this for the first time. I'm going to cry. I know I'm going to cry.

[@t8z5h3]

Funny thing is Netscape never recovered but Mozilla lives on

[@Designandrew]

actually you can download pretty much any version of netscape you want. It will be available online forever.

[@HashimAziz1]

@@Designandrew He was obviously talking about Netscape, the company. Their greatest contribution to humanity wasn't Netscape Navigator or the jobs they created, it was Mozilla.

[@westjgames1]

53:40 Yes, that is happening now...

[@Eggs-n-Jakey]

That mom deserves an award, so well spoken.

[@Locutus]

Thanks for uploading this video. I remember watching this video 20 years ago as a kid. I found it fascinating.

[@cato451]

I remember the first time downloaded Netscape. It was the beginning of information liberation for me.

[@cotedazure]

Great to watch this awesome documentary almost two decades later! I almost forgot Netscape Navigator once came in a box.

[@OutyBanjo]

I'll bet you Jamie was so stoked when The Matrix came out.

[@ArtOfIntenso]

I was in the all-hands the day the first 5MB Mozilla download was pulled. Big cheers from all. I did note the rather numerous boxes of chocolate donuts, the many sugar soft drinks, and the need for fresh air and exercise (at least) among the staff. Shows what can happen when "the mission" takes over lives. Vid makes no clear retropective statement of what this open sourcing achieved.

[@MrWaterbugdesign]

In 1982 I moved from Dallas TX to San Jose to create video games. It was a time when most people didn't know what a video game was. I drove over the hill in the east at night and suddenly saw all the lights of Silicon Valley. I was so excited. And it was so much fun. Working with such bright and driven people. I was so young I assumed that's just how the world was. That everyone was bright and driven. Got into home computers when video games crashed. I was so lucky. Stil am.

[@luicecifer]

18:52 "There was a young tenor named Springer, Got his testicles caught in a wringer, he hollered in pain, as they rolled down the drain, 'There goes my career as a singer!'"

[@timotthorbu]

I used Netscape for as long as it was supported, 2008. I miss it.

[@smoothbeak]

I really love this documentary. To me it's about a bunch of misfits who are highly intelligent and highly dysfunctional, on some mission that everyone excepts to fail, partaking in the overconsumption of junk food and coca-cola. Let's be honest, they at least had more fun than the people working at Microsoft :)

[@selehadinhabesi3855]

lots of questions how can you be intellegent and disfunctional at the same time? how are they not intellegent enough to avoid junk food(specialy cola)?

[@smoothbeak]

@@selehadinhabesi3855 Haha, yes very good questions. Highly skilled in a particular area, arguably quite stunted in others.

[@dannydetonator]

Intelligence comes in many different forms and levels, it's not a switch or eblven a scale. From academic, to physical and emotional to intuitive and spiritual. That's why IQ tests are flawed for the bigger picture.

[@denormal9580]

"the source code is the secret formula for browsing the web." This is why beginners to this stuff get confused. What does that even mean? The source code of Netscape/Mozilla is C++ code, which is a programming language. This code is compiled in to programs.

[@robloxgameplayfr3841]

Good point here.

[@chizurumizuhara6136]

I love how mozilla turns into privacy centric browser

[@daevyd100]

This is such a sweet documentary, thanks for the upload!

[@jabasso]

The dude literally said: "Why not banks online?!" I'am speechless

[@danielchamdo]

Skrillex is really immortal

[@mutedmutiny9542]

This dude is infinitely cooler than that Skrillex guy

[@CiroSantilli]

10:37 My mom can write an optimizing compiler! :-)

[@werthersoriginal]

@8:00 Back when code wasn't modular. These poor bastards. Im so grateful for these pioneers.

[@jogirob3931]

Thumbs up if watching on memory intensive Firefox.

[@tommullins2869]

Funny how things have turned. Now the hog is chrome

[@SurajDubey]

52:54 Amazon!!

[@Mijitas]

Oh 90s...I miss you.

[@soteful9949]

25:50 Her: Hi.... Him: yeeeeaah That's me every morning when I enter the office.

[@soteful9949]

53:51 the king of metaphors

[@Patchuchan]

Watching this on Firefox it's not perfect but it's better then the alternatives and doesn't spy on you.

[@ytorrius3691]

Patchuchan Well the browsers don't spy on you, the sites you access and use do... So Chrome or Firefox, once you log into google you are equally screwed!

[@troler7147]

@@ytorrius3691 Chrome does spy on you, but it's at least safer than Edge and Yandex :)

[@karasu6182]

Vivaldi is much better

[@p0rq]

Use Brave

[@kanrup5199]

as a person who has done a small amount of coding this video gave me a mild case of anxiety.

[@KhairulAnwar-mp8lo]

What determines your excellence in Software is your Aptitude.

[@dimitri977977]

I can feel the diabetes oozing out from this video...

[@oystein18]

Are some of the code left in Firefox?

[@Designandrew]

Yes

[@orozcoapaza1660]

Funny that now the only use for Microsoft Edge is to download Mozilla Firefox........what Gates said goes back to his products: "...some failed to embrace change " and " ...software industry is regulated by FREEDOM ... "

[@shiftrefresh]

These dudes are months away from seeing The Matrix for the first time and having their minds blown haha

[@henrihelvetica5835]

Loosely related today, but Happy 20th Bday Firefox!

[@GnarMarv2]

Does anyone see a resemblance between Scott Collins and Lester of GTA V?

[@lloydblankfein3816]

Damn these are all the OG startups.

[@amaterasu48]

It's a historical stuff, but when you look at it, it's just a browser. Netscape existed as a company to provide one software. I know it was a big deal at that time, but when you think about it now, major browsers are created by big companies like Microsoft, Google and Apple. Browser is just one of many softwares that those companies provide... I liked Netscape, but it got old really really fast. That represents the software industry at that time and even today.

[@beickus]

love these guys - beautiful people

[@danh5637]

Netscape should have coded a new networked PC operating system. The world was looking for one at that time!

[@desmondbirch298]

Very interesting!!! Thanks for the upload!!! :O)

[@FormosaFinance]

Where is that intersection in San Francisco? 53:04

[@Somatik]

Can we get a version that is properly de-interlaced?

[@unlokia]

Copy the URL, open it with VLC and turn on the de-interlacing or de-combing filter(s) :)

[@numeric.alphabet]

Sebenarnya di ping post atau get langsung bleber. Masalahnya masih mentah full bukan tutup..

[@simonriddick]

I remember using Nutscrape back in 1995. I remember the Windows 95 commericals on tv at the time too. Never really thought I'd be using IE later on but that's what it was for a while. And now IE is dead.

[@Dudewhoami]

One of the craziest things about this documentary is in 19:00. They act like this guy, who is clearly extremely tech savy, is their bulk demographic. No wonder they lost to microsoft.

[@SleepyBulldogPuppy-qi1nw]

😮

[@galdamez3]

After everything Microsoft did to make the Web a 2nd class platform, what an irony it is that desktop operating systems and bundled software are now relics of a bygone era. The open sourcing of Mozilla was the first domino to fall. Next came WebKit followed by Safari, Chrome, rich browsers for mobile operating systems, HTML5, CSS3, ES5, jQuery, Angular, and so on. The modern Web we live and experience today would not be the same if it weren’t for the hail Mary pass that was Mozilla.

[@jonaspantalha9206]

Those build the Road of pain we crossing today.

[@chillaxinfool6857]

53:40 what happened to net neutrality??

[@ViorelIanasi]

Mmm... I remember the old days. I started browsing the web using Netscape Navigator which became Communicator by adding other tools but with the launch of IE 4.0, I started using it. I liked the Microsoft solution better. I continued to use IE until the introduction of Microsoft Edge and this is my main browser for browsing the Internet. On website development I use Chrome but didn't liked Firefox. Tried to use Netscape/AOL's browser back in the 2008 but neah... it was not the same!

[@chrisward5090]

His, how's this film licensed? Creative Commons? Can i grab a high quality version for offline viewing somewhere?

[@KaliumX]

Nice documentary! Well done! ;-)

[@drinkyjac3155]

I use these videos to sneak out the house but I dint wanna leave my room to quite

[@numeric.alphabet]

Browsers adalah bukan tutup artinya API yg license adalah Mozilla Netscape. Netscape gencar untuk marketing communications di lain pihak perbankan sudah tutup

[@dantescanline]

Who's the hacker kid at 18:35 ? username 'che' on box 'che'

[@JaredConnell]

wow what a sad ending the first half is all high paced and upbeat while everything after the open source launch it makes it all seem so sad and gloomy.

[@xinox73]

Damn i miss Netscape it was the best i think :)

[@Shad51192]

lol I'm still grinding on that netscape life

[@MunzirSuliman]

thank you for Javascript :) and firefox developer edition

[@BigWayneX]

41:02 "Microsoft actually doesn't do very much, they buy companies, they wait until someone has done something interesting and then they acquire them and then they milk it for all they're worth." The more things change the more they stay the same

[@ISEORG]

Project Code Rush - The Beginnings of Netscape / Mozilla Documentary The Documentary Network

[@jerrogance]

53:36 Wow...I hope he's wrong, cause a few shouldn't control the narritive for many, but years later...you can see it happening with Facebook, and other platforms.

[@alainportant6412]

23:24 this is steve jobs cellphone number

[@TonyGingrich]

@9:00 This team would have OD'ed on Agile

[@tmeers91]

dotcon, go-go, 90s bubble!

[@Anonyminder]

Small companies innovate and big corporations consume them... in the Netscape case AOL really helped it to get through the tough period till Mozilla becomes what it is today... even I like Chrome and its my most favorite browser and only slightly below that its Mozilla which r leaving IE far, far behind.

[@steadyasshegoes7795]

53:35 - That was creepy to hear. > Facebook, Google, Twitter, KZbin - AI, Geo-location & Tracking. The collecting of an individuals mass meta data & peroneal browsing trends for purpose of predicting behavioral patterns for marketing and social manipulation.

[@chillaxinfool6857]

50 dollars an hr at 12..Damn

[@troler7147]

and only 16

[@technicalmachine1671]

Did they really put Steve Jobs' phone number on screen?

[@troler7147]

where?

[@nok738]

@@troler7147 23:20

[@nuwanwickremasinghe]

I'm wondering why an Internet program is not coming like Netscape buttons in the future because it was new functions!

[@lodewijkabrahams1634]

Why is the windows-Explorer-browser getting into a deprecated awsome? are they nut?

[@tazzerthespaz]

What I don't understand (Still in the beginning part) is why they couldn't release the source code in the beginning and let the community help them with the bug fixes. While the final project had a release date why did the source code have to have a release date? Just release the source code and let everyone contribute.

[@mjmccune]

A lot of the original Netscape code was licensed from other companies (Apple is mentioned in the film) and couldn't be released under an open source license. This meant that a lot of the code had to be rewritten and tested.

[@tazzerthespaz]

Now I could see how that could cause a few problems. . . . a few

[@MotesTV]

Malcolm Boyd Youngin, back then the development community was even smaller than it is today and releasing a codebased riddled with bugs would not make anyone want to pick it up to modify it or develop it to keep it competitive with IE. In other words, Firefox would never have been born because it would be seen that the Netscape code base had become to bogged with bugs to evolve. They needed to fix the bugs so that everyone believed their pretense that they were giving a quality product to the greater developer community in hopes, in earnest 90's open source hopes, that the community would value the gift and contribute their real work and time to it, which is why I am watching this video on Firefox 33.

[@waswestkan]

Malcolm Boyd Keep in mind the reason Netscape was going to release code was was business plan to counter Microsoft including Internet explorer and Outlook Express with with a purchase of a Windows OS.Netscape was for profit business, bad for business if you deliver something to the customer, less than your best possible effort.

[@missmelodius]

Well done.

[@driven39]

I see they love fast food in Silicon Valley.

[@CaptchaNeon]

Driven The Rockstar Kid *They didn’t have time to be Vegan snowflakes, they worked endless hours*

[@microsoft365kz]

Super!

[@john10000ish]

28:39 girl with soda

[@thezakalmanak]

This documentary is so funny like i swear this where they got inspiration for the office. Yet its still interesting and educational and shows how groundbreaking open source was for capitalism

[@thezakalmanak]

But seriously hilarious...the guy that commutes halfway across the country and his wife is like "omg" and then it casually drops that he made billions

[@domenicomelis74]

this is great

[@root-at-localhost3691]

And so at last the beast fell and the unbelievers rejoiced. But all was not lost, for from the ash rose a great bird. The bird gazed down upon the unbelievers and cast fire and thunder upon them. For the beast had been reborn with its strength renewed, and the followers of Mammon cowered in horror. from The Book of Mozilla, 7:15

[@jimweaver3315]

I remember the start. Where I had to write web code by hand. Java and CGI for chats. Good times. Then people began making money and the greed changed it.

[@LloydieP]

I take it you work for free then. :D

[@desouzasantana5775]

53:37 it is happening right now

[@marcbarber2209]

So glad that filmakers hard the forethought to know something huge was being built. Cool doc! Hope some people find this doc in 500 years, and they look at eachother and say "the internet? What the fuck was an internet?"

[@jamesc9168]

Ok I appreciate git a lot more after watching this

[@oguzeroglu4413]

Well, they all lost against the Chrome in the end. I wrote this comment on my Firefox though.

[@giveittomebaybe5112]

Imagine having that old Firefox shirt

[@TheDeadNorth]

if only they could see then how well Internet Explorer worked out.

[@ToadalSimplicity]

why did they stop making keyboards like this...

[@jogirob3931]

Excellent documentary btw, thanks.

[@letgabeequaltrue9097]

12:08, Eric Stoltz evil twin.