Last Sailboat on our List & WE LOVE IT… Now what?! | Pacific Seacraft 40 | S05E09

Buying a Used Sailboat Boat Series
Last week we fell head over heels for the Valiant 42 and put a low-ball offer on one that’s just outside of our budget. We still need a plan B in case our offer is rejected, so fingers crossed this Pacific Seacraft 40 stacks up to it!
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[@mikakari9498]

RAN is a Najad 440 and Delos is an Amel Super Maramu 48. To me it looks that you want a larger boat, which means good access on motor, large double berths, spacious cockpit, enough storage for food etc.

[@minermarcus]

I would think that the Amel 53 is too big for a couple to handle easily. Delos crew is very experienced and can deal but if anything happens to Brian it would be hard for her to singlehand a boat that size especially if the electric winches go out.

[@carnivaldk959]

If i had the money, this boat was well taken care of, new instrument's looked like it was a new boat, even the lines :). Yup would be my pick of all the boat you have shown us :)

[@mudabudda]

I agree 👍

[@aaronrunalls375]

And the motor is a nice yanmar

[@leecowell8165]

I agree...

[@bexleymike]

Agreed

[@10bbremer]

No matter, it is still a very old boat.

[@caktus5]

Very nice boat. But some drawbacks (in my opinion) 1st, the cockpit is too small for a family of 4 (we can spend a lot of time in the cockpit). 2nd, the master bed seems too small for Jordan (?) 3rd, hard to work on the engine (but it's a good one)

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

By the time the kids are big enough to sail they will probably have moved on to a bigger boat in all honesty. These two are top-tier filmmakers and ambitious.

[@lydiaajohnson]

I which ever you choose, you have clearly reached out to the right people if you want sound advice. Good for you, and all the best on your new boat. I think you earned it.

[@goleafsgo8496]

All the great "name dropping" of who you will be talking to by Des brings me back to your humble beginnings. You knew little about boat ownership and the true sailing community. Because of the quality of people you are you now have so many folks that truly have your best interest at heart and want to see you do well and make a great choice. Congrats you two just genuinely a great couple who are going to make a great Mom and Dad.

[@davidmorton6211]

Agreed. The two channels I follow are SV Delos and this. I think a boat like Delos is exactly what they need.

[@fk8marko774]

@@davidmorton6211 An Amel 54 would be glorious for these two but they are money, even the older Super Marmu 2000 like Delos is still a pricey boat, but an amazing one to boot

[@davidmorton6211]

@@fk8marko774 True, Also, someone mentioned that Delos would be a bit to much boat for Desire and/or to sail by Themselves. Perhaps that is why they always had new crew members along for the journey.

[@pilotarix]

I am getting sweats just looking at the V berth and the lack of ventilation. The lack of good access to the engine room can become a much bigger problem in no time. Just imagine you break a screw in an area that you can barely reach. The rest looks pretty good. Assumed that you guys will stay in warm areas I would not underestimate the "needed" cockpit size with two kids. Even the most avid sailor is still more on anchor than underway. Probably even more so if sailing with kids. Good luck with your search.

[@ajdsp]

That V-berth looks small. Really S.M.A.L.L. The Valiant 42 for the win? BTW - this series has been a gift !!! I am not even looking for a boat, but have enjoyed every one of these shows so much. Kudos and thank you.

[@petec9686]

I thought the same thing. PS decided that having side entrance was important, so they gave away valuable bed acreage to make egress easier. If I had this boat I would do some remodeling of this area. On the plus side, PS decided one spacious head is better than 2 cramped ones. I agree with this strategy. Space is precious, why give it away on something as frivilous as being able to use two baths at the same time?

[@atschris]

A great little mini series, clearly shows that every boat is a compromise!

[@claussvensson7834]

Noted that you have not looked at more boats manufactured in Europe such as Nautors Swan, Hallberg Rassy, Malo, Oysters, Grand Soleil, Alubat etc. Much more choice over here.

[@GS-kx1ys]

Sirius, Bavaria...you are right. European boats are really well designed and made...these two German boats are great!

[@God-Bless-Texas]

I’m sure you don’t want to hear this, but one of your sailing You Tube competitors has mentioned several times that European prices are significantly lower.

[@koborkutya7338]

I brought this up to them too. However, there are the customs and taxes and you also don't easily look at boats in Europe these days. On top, you would also have to invest a month+ to get your new boat (on your first trip) to the Canal, they may run out of time.

[@Angeladc79]

I think most of those boats may be above their price range in the size and condition they're looking for.

[@claussvensson7834]

@@Angeladc79 Please se the comment from Jamas G above

[@sv.scintilla]

You could register the Seattle Boat in Oregon and avoid the sales tax. These boats are OK, but the designs are basically 40 years old. I think too you should be looking at boats in the 45-50 range. The boats you are looking at are small for their size. You can find a similar small 47 that would fit Jordon better and have better liveaboard cruising space. We have been living aboard for 10 years and have covered 35K sea miles. The boats you are looking at can do that, but you will be more comfortable and make faster passages on a bigger boat.

[@johnbrooks1188]

Not everybody can handle or afford boats in the 45-50 range.

[@sv.scintilla]

@@johnbrooks1188 True, but they are looking at boats with a near quarter million dollar price tag. There are a lot of boats in the 45-50' size in that price range. My wife and I are 68 years old and have sailed a 49 footer tens of thousands of sea miles. It is technique and gear that helps you manage your boat. We have a good friend, a women who is also 68 yo and is on her second single handed circumnavigation on a 53' ketch. So I don't really buy the you can't handle it argument. The average cruising boat is now 50' whereas 30 years ago it was 40'. Gear has made the difference. We see a lot more boats out there over 50' than under 40'. Roller (or power) furling and electric winches are now pretty common. Perhaps you can't afford or handle a 50' boat, but I don't think that is the case for Jordon and Des.

[@davidbutler5114]

We used our CSY44 hull #3 Pilothouse to cruise with our 5 children for a year. No core in the deck and built like a tank. On the lift fully loaded with 270gallons of water 300 gallons of fuel food and parts for 1 year we topped out at 43000 pounds. With the ketch rig we pointed fairly high and are able to balance the boat that the auto pilot barely had to work. Being a heavy boat with a similar hull design to the Valiant 42 and PSC40 , we don’t really pound into weather like the newer boats. We also don’t pound at anchor. The best example of this was anchoring by Santa Cruz Island overnight, the wind picked up to 34 and gusted to 37. This lasted for 7 hours we did move side to side slowly but didn’t bounce around like the other boats. Having a great anchor and chain also helps sleep at night. The aft cockpit is about the size of the PSC40 but keeps you dry and safe, bull works are also tall and give good purchase for your feet. The CSY is not really a light wind boat, 10 knots gets her moving we start reefing at 23. We don’t have a code Zero or full spinnaker so we use the main and pole out the jib. Coming around point Reyes we had 18 to 20 foot following seas which wasn’t really noticeable until one broke over the stern and sent water through one of the ports into the Pilothouse, that’s when I closed the port. I wasn’t sure how I felt about a pilot house until we were heading out the straight of Juan de fuca and it was blowing 25 wind against waves. They wave were 8’ at 9 seconds so the ride was pretty wet as the bow of the bout would have water come over it and hit the windows by the steering station. This was lots of fun and I was happy to be warm and dry in my flannel pajama pants, our buddy boat an Ericson 40 did mention that he was getting soaked from the water that kept rolling over his dodger and landing in his cockpit. I let him know that I felt bad and if he wanted we could pull into a protected bay. I love the old big and heavy boats, comfortable, secure, built strong, enjoyable at anchor. Between the Valiant and the PSC I’d really enjoy the PSC40 , the shower is amazing, berths are laid out better and having all of the lines handy in the cockpit makes life easier. The big downside of the CSY Pilothouse is going to the mast to reef there just isn’t a great way to run everything to one spot. There is a little more windage but the amount of light inside a bounty makes it livable. Having nice instruments is a big help but both of those boats were built to outlast a storm and get you home, not to see it coming on the satellite and run because the boy at just won’t take it. Can’t wait for next week.

[@jetwind72]

You cannot go wrong with Pacific Seacraft, their reputation is legendary. I think this boat is a perfect size for you and a growing family. The small cockpit may seem confining, but after a few crossings, not so much so. You have done your homework and I think you found your boat. Good luck and God Speed.

[@douglasdickinson507]

I really like this series on buying the next boat. You have undertaken the deliberate and thoughtful step of considering long range benefits, a good ranking method, and insightful commentary that differentiates your brand among your peers on FB.

[@nicolew101]

I have enjoyed "going along" and boat shopping with you guys!

[@tallbikercat]

Don't forget to rate the amenities for cruising, such as water maker, dinghy davits, solar/wind power, wind vane steering, radar, AIS, etc. while these things can be added, it can be pretty dang expensive and time consuming to do it all at once. I personally like the Valiant 42 with the pullman berth. The engine access is great, and the sail locker are up front can have a cushion put on it and the kids can sleep up there until they get too big. It can also serve as a work room/tool room, which is HUGE in my book. And not having any brightwok on deck is HUGE. And while the saloon is a little smaller, for the introvert on board it would limit the size of the party onboard! besides, the cockpit is where you usually hang out at anchor, and the Valliant can accommodate. You mentioned the nice Yanmar on the PS40. I love Yanmars as they run quite and dependably...but parts are a bitch to get as you can only get them through authorized dealers, which I assume are scarce in the South Pacific. Good luck with your decision making process!

[@jamesbrooks4618]

No one mentioned the critical fact that Pacific Seacraft is still a functioning company! I have owned a PS 34 for almost 20 years and have relied on their assistance many times before and since Steve bought the company and moved her to the East Coast. My first 34 was sailed around the world solo by the first owner. Unfortunately we lost that boat to vandalism. We loved the sailability,, and livability, as a part time live aboard, that we sought a replacement 34 which we bought in 2015. Many of the employees followed the company from West to East to care for and build “ their boats” I agree with Bernie that you will quit before this boat quits. Add to that the commitment of a company behind you this is for sure the boat that will allow you to accomplish all of your dreams. Best of luck! Jim Brooks S/V Neverland

[@richames3608]

That engine access, or rather lack thereof, would be a huge issue for me. Having run diesel motors for 20yrs, I don't care how reliable they are you're still going to be working on them. I think even more than that though, the lack of hull access with that liner would make me extremely uncomfortable. 50k is a huge difference in price though. Tough choice.

[@gilbertrose7147]

The hull liner issue was a concern initially for me before I bought my PS 37, but not now. They were very clever to make systems and tanks accessible. The stiffness that results is like a tank!

[@roberts338]

The fact that the boat has been really well taken care of, you’re almost getting a new boat means a lot and for 50 k less, and a Yanmarr engine, no brainer!

[@twanda1999]

Jordan & Desiree I am not a sailor....but I have to say I so enjoy your videos! This series of going along with you to find your new Atticus II....has just been the best! I really love this Seacraft its beautiful but the engine room access does seem to be a bit of concern . I went back today and rewatched the videos of all the boats you have looked and I cant help but be drawn to the Shannon 43. I know its bigger, and grander than you think you need or want. But don't lose site that your looking for something that you want for years to come and children. Having that extra cabin is something that none of the others really offered. Plus the dinette where you can do your work seems to really put a smile on your face too. Whatever sailboat you select though I wish you many joyous years of happy sailing!

[@conradlogan5201]

Just watched this once again (since it popped up and said “hello”) This may have been the very first Atticus video I’d watched. I remember having been watching another sailing channel just before-and was quite struck in Desiree’s depth of knowledge when articulating the pros/cons of this boat (with the other channel-the wife was clearly at the early stages of her education) The two of you bring such balance and partnership to we viewers. Much appreciated and enjoyed

[@brianleathers9238]

The decision for me is easy. Yes the PS40 may have a few shortcomings but when talking about raising your babies onboard you owe it to them, who have no choice in the matter, to purchase the safest boat that is capable of serving most of your personal wants and needs. Safety first, everything else is secondary. So it won’t make 8 knots when you’re close hauled. But you’ll always know with relative certainty that you will get there.

[@leecowell8165]

great points, Brian.

[@mattpretty1277]

i love this channel. the reviews of all the boats is a new awakening for me regarding sailing life. thank-you! :) m.

[@xenobioticslyingeyes6900]

Sometimes the price of owning a boat is hiring a good boat mechanic ,sometimes to do more is to do less.

[@jillgeary1313]

Love your videos! We lived aboard our Valiant 39 (they only built 7 [?] of them) for many years. It was an amazing boat to sail - the motion was outstandingly comfortable. I loved everything about that boat - everything. I've also owned Pacific Seacraft boats (I owned 2 Flickas!), plus I went to the factory when it was in California many times and worked for a PSC broker. They are extremely well built as well. I've sailed the Dana 24 and the Crealock/PSC 40 and they both are fantastic sailing boats. The only thing that was "not my favorite thing" on the PSC boats is all the wood on the exterior (toe rail, cap rail, hand rails) - when we got the Valiant we were SOOOOO happy to not have to varnish every few months LOL! Good luck in your search. The Valiant and the PSC are both excellent, fantastic boats!!

[@eternallygrateful5266]

Hi. Great work!! As a rule , when faced with a choice of what you want and what you can afford, get what you want. Amortized over a 10 year period., the difference is not substantial. When you get what you want, that means less upgrading. Your site is wonderful and I suspect it will grow in popularity resulting in more income. The valiant resale value is amazing and built like a tank. Good luck. With you every step!!!!

[@johnamckinley]

Too small beds. I think you should be in more the 45-50 foot range for a family-sized vessel . The engine compartment is not well designed, which is a real issue in my opinion.

[@johnamckinley]

If they are looking at boats listing at $220k+, there are good options in the 45-50 foot range. Everything is a trade off. This is an awesome boat for a couple, but not for a family of four for 15 years. I would not rush to a decision on this.

[@alphaomega3499]

That Shannon 43 looked good

[@olddotcom]

Have to agree. Bigger is better, and with kids on the way!!! I really keep my eye on that beam size too. What a difference that makes on these ole girls.

[@leecowell8165]

@@johnamckinley yeah it would be tight with adolescents for sure. yeah bigger boys like bigger toys. they should look at Europe but tell you what this boat is NOT gonna be around long.

[@leecowell8165]

@Konstantin Ridaya boats built in Europe just don't have enough ventilation. these people are probably gonna be spending a lotta time in sub-tropical (remember they're from Florida). Cats don't work well for off shore cruising you'd be hove to on a regular basis unless you planned very carefully. however one could purchase a lotta fans & solar panels to put on a much bigger boat. yeah gotta consider it and not be in such a rush. years fly by though as we all know.

[@Jammer0825]

Ahhh man we gotta wait another week! You guys are killing us here!!!!!!!!

[@kingrueone]

My wife and I bought a 1984 pacific sea craft 34 two years ago and sail her out of NY. This past summer during the pandemic we spent two months cruising from NY to Nantucket and everywhere in between. It was our first taste of cruising life and it was incredible. Overall The PSC sails beautifully and effortlessly. It handles amazingly well in a stiff breeze which gave us a lot of confidence as relatively new sailors. She's a beautiful boat that gets a lot of attention at every port. The one draw back in our opinion is the space. Feels more like a 28' on our boat. I think the 40 would be the perfect size for a cruising couple. We're hoping to go bigger one day and you guys are looking at all the boats we would consider for ourselves. Wishing you guys the best of luck with whatever boat you choose.

[@Hannah-fe6bo]

Thank you for this series!!! I wish I could convey how useful and helpful this information is. I love your channel and I’m so invested in your journey I feel so included as a viewer. Thank you 🙏

[@leecousins5440]

This is a beautiful boat. My fav so far.

[@bnkwupt]

This seems like a really great boat. However, the Valiant 42 still speaks to me. If I were looking to raise a couple of kids on a boat, the 42 Pullman, despite the smaller living quarters, seems like it would offer the most flexibility. The sail storage in the bow could even be converted to a small bedroom nook for a kid. Thinking back to my childhood, I would have gotten a real kick out of having a bedroom nook like that. Best of luck weighing the options and deciding which boat is best for you! Looking forward to next week’s episode.

[@wiredkamikaze5831]

This is my favorite so far. Looking forward to next week's episode more so than any show on television. Keep up the great work Buds

[@jasonscott5068]

Beautiful boat⛵️! I think you guys have already made your decision😃😉 I am very excited for you guys!

[@Mainstreetpeople]

Your boat reviews have been really interesting and informative. Valiant 42 for my money is the boat of choice its faster, the overall finish is beautiful and will result in lower / easier maintenance. Lines will eventually wrap around any propeller installation but the advantage of an exposed prop is that it will take less time to cut them free. Good luck with your search.

[@Noniinthebush]

Ha ha me too! Best wishes from Australia! 👍🏼 I really love this boat 😍 Yep I do think this is the one ! 👍🏼😀👍🏼

[@waynefederico9396]

Mr. Bells same here ,, hows it going down there mate ? hope all is good..

[@Noniinthebush]

@@waynefederico9396 mrs bells lol pretty good yourself?

[@Noniinthebush]

@@cappyjpadgett definitely agree about the engine room

[@bradmottishaw467]

Since I have never done any real sailing, I don't feel qualified to give advice. That was a beautiful vessel, but I just can't wait to see you both out on the water and raising a family! BEST OF LUCK TO YOU ALL!

[@kennethpucser774]

Can't wait to see which one you's get...there all so so nice

[@megrier]

I really like this boat! Love the deck features and the raised areas for everything to help eliminate leaks. I think there must be a way to work around the engine better. The protected prop is awesome and very important to me. Bigger engine is better with available parts is a must. Original owner!! I’ll buy it if you don’t 😉! Wow, I can’t wait for the next video.

[@kevinswain1304]

If Bruce and Johnson’s did the maintenance on the boat it was well taken care of. Good luck!

[@TheAtma50]

Bernie is such a lovely man and what a beautiful sentiment he wished for you about sailing over the horizon with your family !! Stay Safe & Fair Winds !!

[@ussweeneyd]

Great review! You certainly do have a comprehensive and sensible set of criteria. I’m looking forward to the time you are setting sail. 😎🇬🇧

[@vxnova1]

That looks like a great boat.

[@tlevans62]

Buds are back!! Woo-hoo! 😁

[@danieloliver20]

Right on Doc!

[@shuckan]

Very informative video! Now I want one! Great job guys!

[@thepigwillfly5869]

This series on boat hunting has been very interesting. Your organization of the videos and standard format for the review is excellent and enjoyable to watch.

[@beamer302]

I think you have found that an engine acts up at the worst times. The engine access on the Pacific Seacraft 40 is terrible. There is little to no sound insulation either. You also won't like maintaining varnish on deck. It looks nice but that's it . In the tropics varnish kicks too fast when applying it. (unless you add a ton of thinner) then you have to apply a lot of coats and also hope it doesn't rain on all your fine work. Stay away from boats with varnished wood on deck. With that said , the Valiant 42 has the storage on board and no wood on deck .It has way better access to the engine. It has a generator too. The cockpit is a bluewater style that also has some party room. I think the Valiant 42 is the pick from the boats you have looked at so far . I do suggest that you take another rational look at boats in the 44 to 46ish size . You need the room. Remember the saying "buy your last boat first". I know this because I didn't. Best of luck boat hunting. I enjoy your KZbin channel. Cheers y'all

[@AlexNewton]

Best boat by far out of the ones you've looked at. 👍🏻

[@larrybost6932]

I love this series !! I haven't sailed for almost 50 years but I am addicted to your journey.Well done. Learning so much from you.

[@jaylove2898]

The minute you guys started talking about this boat I knew it was the one. Go for it, you guys deserve it!!!

[@CR-eo2ts]

These have been one of my favorite boats, by one of my favorite designers, since it came out. That said, you really need to check out the CC version of the Tayana 42. Much more liveable than the AC version you saw. Barring that, the PS 40 would be my pick of those you've seen. Good luck! ! ✌️❤️⛵☀️

[@paddlingfan1]

You two have taken the channel to the next level. Congrads! Best wishes two you all.

[@boostnsvt]

Wow, expanding your coverage on the purchase is fascinating. I really enjoyed watching these vids

[@thejedijohn]

I've loved this whole series. Every boat has had so much charm and life in it. I could see you living in any of them. I really loved hearing the opinions of the experts, they make me feel like I know something about boating. You guys are doing such a great job researching and putting that research into videos where it feels like we're on this journey with you. Can't wait to see where you end up. "Higher up and further in"

[@bucc5062]

I think the decision is straight forward. I watched both clips and at the end of the day the differences between the two boats wash out. Yes, you love both, but the serious question is this, with two almost similar boats, what could you do with $50,000? That is A LOT of money. The Seacraft is a sailaway boat, but you could take $50,000 and put it to alterations that make it a perfect boat. With the valiant you take away that $50,000 and now have to still spend money. Don't forget that you'll still be buying things for either boat that won't come over from Atticus. If it was me, I'd buy the Seacraft in a heart beat, pocket the difference saved and let's keep in mind that either you need to haul the Valiant across the country, hire a delivery captain to take it somewhere or start your adventures from Seattle. With the Seacraft, you can plop it in the water, get her shipshape to sail and have her in FL within two weeks of leaving CN. After that it's back down to Panama and back to the adventure. Either way I look forward to the sailing part of the videos again. Fair winds.

[@bscott3211]

There's not much room on the foredeck for a dinghy... At least not on my neighbor's PS40... He had to custom make a tiny fiberglass RIB. Consider davits and a place for solar panels and a wind generator. Damn, that sounds like a lot of WORK!

[@richardcheek4776]

You guys have done quite a wonderful job with theses recent videos. The experts and the arrangements of video is very well done,informative with your own perspective. Thank you for taking the time.

[@jblet7926]

Many of the same highly skilled craftsman and women who built this boat are still working at the Pacific Seacraft factory here in beautiful Washington, NC. The specific plans for each boat produced by PS is kept in a file there at the factory, so that no matter where you are in the world you can call for support and detailed information about your boat. Just something you may want to consider. PS sailboats are built for serious world cruising and will get you there in safety and comfort. The choice is easy. Keep up the great work you're doing and best wishes in your adventures!

[@rickfucci4512]

Storing it in a cooler climate really makes a difference

[@swill1020]

ahh my favorite youtubers and i too wake up early to see wazzzup. Back to sleep shortly

[@robertabbott3024]

We are excited for you all and can’t wait to see how all this turns out. You all are our inspiration for our purchase of a travel trailer this past August. As I (Bob) was watching KZbin video during the hight of this pandemic I came across your channel. As I became intrigued with your all’s adventures I thought what could we do. Do to my wife being disabled with bad knees I knew that we would not be able to handle sailing as much as I would have loved it. I came across a few KZbin couples with RV’s and 6 months later we bought a travel trailer. We look forward to following your new adventures with you new boat as we begin with ours. Safe travels! Bob & Cindy.

[@erickohler4504]

This series is a joy to watch. It is full of great information and careful analysis. I have never been tempted to skip thru portions of your videos. PS: My wife and I purchased a Pacific Seacraft pilothouse 32 new in 93. They make great boats. We still sail and live aboard most summers in Maine. Good luck with your search.

[@RoyAmsterdam]

"trow in the kids and know they be oke" 🤣 Those cushions must be really soft ! I actually love this boat lay out. But at the end of the day it is really a hard decision .

[@BeepBeepAndVanillaBean]

From a kid perspective, that huge double berth is awesome.

[@carolinabeacher1558]

that was funny, just grab em by the leg and throw em in there, add a little flip in there for good measure :)

[@scyz2807]

LOL I also thought that was a funny comment by Jordan! But I must say, there are many places you could throw the kids into on this boat. That little closet in the head would be perfect! lol

[@stevehammond7485]

...as if kids stay where you throw them!!!! :) I hope that net goes floor to ceiling.. sorry, deck to overhead! Good luck kids.

[@lydiaajohnson]

Between you and Ruby Rose, as experienced sailors, your evaluations of boats should inform boat builders/architects as to what’s important. As amazing as the Pacific Seacraft is, they could have made the shower and overall head a few inches shorter to accommodate the engine space. I think the lack of access to the engine is not just going to get super frustrating, it could also be dangerous when underway if you can’t quickly reach problem areas.

[@edburke2902]

Trust me, you use the head many times each day, and except for checking oil level and changing engine oil every 200 engine hours, easily changed fuel filters, we only are in the engine compartment a few times a year. Routine engine maintenance goes a long way to preventing problems offshore when you are sailing. Remember offshore you only have fuel for about 100 hours of engine run time. Stuff happens but there is enough access to deal with it.

[@goleafsgo8496]

Now that you have made your choice came back to this visit / review. This is a beautiful boat and is going to be perfect for the two of you and God willing your little bambino's, can't wait to see you living on board and ready to jump into your planned adventures.

[@joshuatwist7302]

As myself being an amateur trailer sailor with big dreams of settling down on a boat, this boat is my favorite out of all of the ones you guys have shown. It looks like it would fit like a glove and feel as smooth as a bar of soap. Some of the things that it lacks that the others had will be less noticable because everything looks like it is fit and molded to keep a person secure while underway. The cockpit design, while small, looks like it was made to be safe, secure, and comfortable while on the water. Good luck guys, I love the channel!

[@roypesta7713]

I love the ps40!!! Yanmar engine sold me. Draw back.. poor eng access. Love everything about it. Pray this will be your choice. Good luck!

[@carnivaldk959]

if it need a overhaul, lift i up and work on it 360 degress access :) that why the hole are in cockpit

[@7drobin]

@@carnivaldk959 Agreed. But in an emergency? I would create access hatches wherever possible, and where most likely to be needed! Doable. Smalls bed are OK so long as they are long enough! Harder to fall from... An extra vent can be created. The smallest boat that serves your need is more affordable and will get more use. Varnish can be painted over with epoxy paint (sad, but problem solved). Yanmar and Kubota derivatives are some of the best engines on the market, with plenty of spares anywhere in the world. Canoes end suck, but they once were the rule for sea going vessels. Newer boats are more expensive, (read unaffordable!). Small cockpit are safer, as long as they are large enough for your needs. Travel over to Europe (or anywhere) has become a logistical nightmare. Shop locally. I think it is a nice boat, very well designed. Worth considering.

[@DWilliams-ce8nb]

A good cabinetmaker should be able to design, build, and install side panels for engine access. 500 to 1000 dollars. I don't think that is a DIY project, but maybe so.

[@waynepolek8648]

Friend of mine did that modification to his PS 40. Loads of access to the engine now.

[@jorgegorina8358]

Live that life buds! Can’t wait to see what u buds decide on. Looking forward to more of your journey.

[@ylemoine1]

OMG! Looks like you’re down to two great boats and faced with the boat buyer’s dilemma of size vs budget. If you don’t think that you’ll be upgrading again in 10+ years, stretch your budget and go with the Valiant 42. You’ll appreciate the extra space as the family grows and the extra 1/2 to 1 knot of boat speed means faster passages, very important with a young family. For me the only concern I see about the Valiant is the engine size and that’s a tough one to get comfortable with. I do love my Yanmar. Good luck in your final decision and thank you for bringing us along on your journey in such amazing detail with quality information and true insight. This series has to be the best boat reviews summary ever done on KZbin, at least for blue water cruisers. 👌 👍 💚

[@MrSychnant]

The engine access on this boat is never going to go away, or is there a way of making more access? Could be a deal breaker.

[@thefullmonte1902]

Yeah. I was thinking the same.

[@pcahill10]

And that's a lot of wood to maintain, on the deck and inside.

[@carolinabeacher1558]

i was loving this boat till he he got to the engine part, then as a mechanic, i thought now way would i want to work on that, especially in an emergency situation. that overhead hatch for the engine looks almost useless.

[@edburke2902]

There is engine access from the quarter berth on our PS40, but it is small and just gives access to the starboard side of the engine for dipstick, throttle linkage, emergency engine cutoff, and oil pressure transducers. You are spot on about removing the back wall in the below cockpit engine access. That absolutely allows me to fit in there, but I’m not 6’4”. Starter motor replacement is tough, but doable. Fortunately it isn’t required often. Oil change is pretty easy, but can be messy removing the side mount filter. The good news is it is all contained in the gel coated sump so it is easy to clean up. We have 6 AGM group 27 batteries and one starter battery beneath the sole. Really nice for keeping CG low. We also installed a factory made 22 gallon aux fuel tank in that removable locker forward of the galley you spoke of.

[@richardgooding498]

Most definitely there would have to be some bulkheads in the engine bay that would need modified.

[@mikakari9498]

This specific boat is missing solar panels, solar arch, davits, windvane, radar, watermaker... Be able to spend some more $$$.

[@exotichandyman]

Great point...

[@minermarcus]

But that just means you get to buy the latest solar panels radar and water maker which will be better and more efficient than ten year old ones.

[@akathesquid5794]

and missing generator (no room for one due to short waterline and long overhangs) and cockpit enclosure and pantry ...not outfitted for voyaging...

[@edburke2902]

There is not usually room for a dinghy in davits and a wind vane. We do have friends that had davits and a hydro and, but you only can use one at a time. For passages dinghy should not be in davits, IMHO.

[@Dexerion]

@@minermarcus budget tho......

[@chriscarr6392]

I love your journey with the search! So looking forward to the next episode! Take care and GOD bless you both.

[@MachTuck]

Very nice boat, its good you two are taking the time to meet the right one for you guys, all the best!

[@p-dubya]

I see lots of regrets here... Tiny cockpit for a family in the steamy equatorial region! Low boom over the cockpit. Bed too small for Jordan. LOTS of woodwork to deal with! Difficult access during a breakdown! Lots of better option IMHO.

[@emilybh6255]

When the mainsail is up the boom will be a LOT higher. You are judging based on how it is packed away for winter not as it would be while sailing with all the rigging installed.

[@paulmahowald4970]

I think you need more emphasis on the following Water maker Solar panels Room for batteries Washing machine

[@jaydog5223]

What a great choice between two fine boats. Look how far you have come - leaving Florida with $2k...an inspiration for so many who dream.

[@charleswaye8536]

As with many others I'm excitedly looking forward to your selection. Your process has been exceptional. Your video presentation of each of your choices is a delight to watch. It's rather exceptional to listen to two young sailors give such professional voice to their craft, very well done... & Sincerely, " May God Bless This Ship & All Who Sail In Her."

[@TheThisami]

V-birth space, engine access, and wood trim. Everything else seems pretty ideal. My question is, does the Valiant offer $50k more value for overcoming those 3 dings on the PS? When my knuckles are bloody from the 5th failed attempt to turn a bolt I can't see, $50k seems a small price to pay! LOL

[@roaddog7542]

Valiant had my vote til the 50k thing.

[@WilliamsMapleFarm]

You would save money by not having to go through the panama canal

[@jeffroberts1834]

@@WilliamsMapleFarm What does that cost a vessel like the valiant 42

[@stephenburnage7687]

@@jeffroberts1834 About to do it next year. The old theory was around $2,000 but heard that prices climbed in 2020.

[@48William]

Great job looking forward to next week

[@Dexerion]

I'm about 1/2 way through the video and you guys have brought up the Valiant a bunch. Good luck finding one! I feel like you've made up your mind.

[@thefullmonte1902]

If I had to choose this boat, I would enlarge the bed in the bow cabin. And perhaps put a wind scoop (like those metal ones near the mast) in the forward cabin, otherwise I think it will be too warm in the South Pacific. I don't like the small cockpit. You will be spending most of your time there. Are you sure you can't find something like the RAN boat? That would be perfect.

[@emilybh6255]

RAN ll isn't nearly as pretty as this boat. Also they had to get a new mast and new rigging for it. So they poured a LOT of money into it. It wasn't turn key like this boat is.

[@paulmahowald4970]

I think the front Vberth could be modified into a bigger bed. Thee was room on both sides

[@regancampbell5270]

They bought it! Can't wait for the new cruising videos on this beauty!

[@simoneclarke5104]

I think the most important factor between the 2 sailboats would be which is better for raising 2 children. Think about how you will have their sleeping arrangements, which boat can be set up best for them. That’s just my opinion as a parent. I think your children will have an amazing life being raised on a boat! Wishing you all the best in your decision, it’s so very exciting🥰!!

[@patrickhackett3878]

As a many decade live-aboard on a Valiant 40, I'd suggest a center cockpit, at least 42 foot length. I love my Valiant, but need onshore storage for tools, parts, stores. Can you go bigger?

[@johnm5447]

That engine room would be a nightmare.

[@albinekb]

Time to go electric

[@steveselleck6964]

I say, let the boat pick you. Set your parameters of what it will take to make it functional for the two of you and adjust your offers accordingly. If you offer based on these price adjustments, the right boat will choose you. I love the analytical approach you both are taking. Having spent time on both boats over the years, I can say you won't go wrong either way. Enjoying all the videos. Keep em coming.

[@RealLifeAndStuff]

I’ve waited for this video all week!!

[@StreetTruckinTitan]

Why havent you looked at any center cockpit boats. Most have big aft cabins and lots of livability like the Delos Amel.

[@gsguthrie]

We love our Hylas 44!!

[@StreetTruckinTitan]

@@nathanbrisson8515 good thing their a couple. Plus not entirely true. Delos singlehands when night crossing.

[@farzana6676]

@@StreetTruckinTitan They cost so much.

[@peterengel7885]

A center cockpit like Ran sailing. Room for the child while sailing.

[@snelmau5]

They should look at a Hallberg Rassy, Najad or even Malö.

[@johnphillips519]

Geez i don't like that engine bay, I reckon that would be a continual pain

[@leecowell8165]

however its a Yanmar. you can get parts for that thing. but yeah it could be an issue depending upon what part broke as he mentioned. however how much do you really use an engine on an offshore boat? this isn't a power boat its a sailboat. the stowage on this boat is pretty awesome but what I really like is the protected prop. tell you what that prop on the valiant is just asking to get smacked. and remember there's a nasty thru-hull fitting there. that would be a MAJOR deal to me. not as many ports and they're smaller. however that aspect is also safer and especially in the "roaring 40's". small things like raised fittings too. and adequate headroom everywhere. its these little things that are under constant usage that adds up over time.

[@edburke2902]

As an owner, it’s not nearly as bad as people are making it out.

[@giovannifiorentino8947]

John and Bernie are grate contributors to this series. It looks like you’re going to end up building your optimal boat, and that would be a very followed series.

[@JeepingNet]

This series is so great! Love the editing and guests! This does look like a great boat. The storage certainly looks better on the other boat and while more storage isn't always great kids do need a lot of different storage. Personally though I think I'd go with this boat it looks in great shape and you are totally right this boat being stored all winter and not in the UV is a much younger boat.

[@jeffreydarabaner1906]

I’d take the PS40 for $50k less and head for warmer waters

[@albatros1752]

All of them are beautiful strong an well thought boats , I just don't fail for so call ,,classic" double ender , and for that amount of money , respectfully , You can have Amell , and by my opinion French design's are better tough's trough in 95% cases ..... If You want family , You will miss the space that canoe ends deprive You, there is reason why they aren't around that much anymore.

[@tonydebruyne257]

I agree. They should be looking at Amel Santorin or Amel Mango.

[@scottharriman9419]

I've been asking myself throughout this series why they aren't looking at an Amel if they're spending a quarter million bucks anyway.

[@tonydebruyne257]

There was a 1988 Amel Maramu for sale in Seattle for $139K - off the market now but perhaps the owners are still interested in selling. It’s a 48’ centre cockpit ketch with oodles of room. A boat like this would be perfect for a family of four.

[@albatros1752]

@@tonydebruyne257 😱😭

[@cparent81]

You guys are awesome! Can't wait to see what you pick as your new home!

[@F2Mbody]

I just found your channel and am highly enjoying how you present your content. You two are such naturals on camera, and I have learned so much about what would be required to live aboard. I would love to see more tours and your personal opinions on various vessels. Thank you for all that you do!

[@mikepetersen5024]

Lots of wood to maintain. Poor engine access. Would be a tough compromise for what you really wanted in a boat. It would make a great boat for people that don't do their own work.

[@goleafsgo8496]

You're going to love that Yanmar, super reliable easy to source parts and wow its got a super clean engine compartment. I'm thinking it has had little to no serious repairs at this point just regular maintenance.

[@anniemathis]

Does it make a difference that the seattle boat is already on the side of the panama canal where you want to be?

[@markhoene9984]

Been watching you guys for years. This has been my favorite series of videos.

[@lifeinpalawan]

Boats like these have such awesome looks and capabilities. Hope your sailing days are awesome!