PROMETHIUM SCIENCE: Taking 15000 Biter Egg To The SHATTERED FIELD | 57 | Factorio SPACE AGE Tutorial

[@zuludeltanovember]

1M spm is next, the factory must grow.

[@Kubamorlo]

if we consider all the possible productivity bonuses that might be equivalent to like 10k spm in vanilla

[@Acdanix3]

Devs said 5m is possibile so...

[@tristen9736]

If that's raw science input, that'd be 80 belts of each science. That's insane

[@OccasusRaven]

@zuludeltanovember make it 10x more so 10M

[@matthewnewhart7084]

And I am happy right now with 355 spm and regular science labs. I never achieved that on vanilla so yes...happy.

[@K-o-R]

Huh, and I _just_ watched a video on cursed belt weaving from Mike Hendriks...

[@poopbutts9705]

the goat of cursed builds

[@kapytanhook]

Amazing series. This stuff is next level. You just pasted more silo's for the eggs than i have in my entire multi planet factory

[@tomsterbg8130]

Every power spike in Factorio, big achievement, etc. feels like "Now we can start really playing the game"

[@astramancer]

Your inserters kicking biter eggs overboard should be bulk inserters not stack inserters, otherwise they might be like "I only have 10 almost expired biter eggs, I should hold on to those" instead of just dumping them into space.

[@szymoniak75]

lol i like how you call them croissants

[@Karcrab_mcshouty]

Yes but he can't pronounce it properly

[@LoneWolf_8]

@@Karcrab_mcshouty cool story

[@Karcrab_mcshouty]

@@LoneWolf_8there is no story

[@theavaliengineer]

For what it's worth, you can use overgrowth soil to pack biter eggs densely in an unspoiling form.

[@JohnKerrashVirgo]

Oh..! By recycling I assume? Now this I have to try...

[@coldfanta4963]

Good to know!

[@AureliusAurelius]

You can’t because rocket capacity is so low, it’s extremely inefficient

[@Nilaus]

14 per rocket. I am not launching 1100 rockets every 30 min for this ship

[@aftbit]

@@AureliusAurelius Except rockets are basically free, especially at this point in the game.

[@d3wdrop-o9q]

alright this may be one of the most satisfying episodes i've seen so far! the synchronized 15k biter croissant rockets were so cool to watch and it's making me want to do something similar on my own save haha

[@AoshimaMichio]

You can remove Gleba and Solar system edge from the ship schedule entirely. In fact you should only need Nauvis, Aquilo and Shattered Planet.

[@nicholascmcneill]

I haven’t been following space age too much except for an episode here or there but this ship is amazing. The new factorio seems like it includes an incredible amount of new content. I’m looking at this ship and the way all the modules are organized and fill in and it’s beautiful.

[@KyouTGD]

"You can't put boxes on space ships." "Fine, I summon cursed belt weaving."

[@chimmy_jim]

Absolutely wild ship! Thanks for the year of content, here's to the next!

[@morgan40654]

I want to try upcycling promethium chunks for storage. Because you can get science 6x as effective with legendary, you essentially get 6x the storage density.

[@КонстантинОзеров-о3е]

Legendary science = legendary promethium. Too expensive

[@morgan40654]

@КонстантинОзеров-о3е the most expensive part of promethium is storage. If you can get to the point Nilaus is at, getting all the way to the shattered planet and back. You have way more promethium than you could ever spend or store so upcycling becomes the easiest way of improving that storage capacity.

[@mrShift_0044]

​@@morgan40654ye,massive upcycling setup that eats ALL prometium you gather to make all the power in the world, yeeeess

[@Sams-xi7xf]

​@@morgan40654But that would need legendary biter eggs. Which is a pain in the butt to mass produce. I think legendary biter egg is harder to produce than legendary promethium Chunk.

[@Yuu-6883]

tens of thousands of normal chunks to 1 legendary chunk 😇

[@fakjbf3129]

Heart of the Tempest, Eye of the Typhoon and Voice of the Whirlwind are the three Lacoian Magnetar-class battlecruisers from The Expanse.

[@pirminp7090]

*Laconian

[@sambut87]

These ships look as intricate as those in Warhammer 40k.

[@ivan0912]

just imagining what's happening when a factorio science pack is made. green science pack? you mush an inserter and a transport belt together to make a green solution. prometheum? mush funny space rocks and fucking quantum processors with bug eggs to get this solution that helps with research lol

[@238Hero238]

I'm glad you can fall asleep to your own videos, Nilaus, because sometimes I do too. Your voice is just too soothing, hah!

[@Filename_37]

Couldn't think of a better christmas activity

[@PolloGamer3424]

Nilaus, you are a machine, i just saw many of the games you played in this channel, and what can i say? You are that guy when it's about automation games.

[@dj_spare]

I just had Christmas breakfast with all kinds of bread, sandwiches and biter eggs!

[@jesusismful]

What's the roadmap going forward? Any goals in mind for your megabase?

[@davesym]

ok, you've convinced me to switch back to using rockets on my promethium collector.

[@RainbowSkyDancer]

happy holidays

[@zackzeed]

Can't wait to see the _speed of science_ in the next episode! xd

[@Matthasso]

Wont circuit condition for eggs request can soft lock? If both ships arrive at the same time you now get 17k request

[@natesky6603]

Might recommend waiting at Nauvis until promethium chunks are used up, but ultimately doesn't matter

[@ratchet1freak]

might be worth adding a balancer on the right hand side promethium belt to clear up the outer lane of the belt and let more of it get on the belt

[@Gemm6905]

Any chance to get a guide on how to make an efficient science space platform for the start?

[@teridero1]

maybe an early game ship for cliff explosives from space to supply each planet with them.

[@RainbowSkyDancer]

saw one dude do the belt storage thing, he started with a green one in the middle and 2 ? yellow ones not at max placement distance. on here, YT. it was also for an end game ship like this.

[@RainbowSkyDancer]

that's a nice setup Nilaus, good compromise between size and storage

[@lodieritas8739]

42:50 Why did you suddenly do 90% of the road? Was it a cut or what

[@TheEventHorizon909]

Dang can’t believe you removed my namesake ship

[@PumpkinDog33]

Maybe it can still be the one that goes out to the shattered planet?

[@Naruedyoh]

Number 57 alredy?

[@feuerm0nd805]

I Think you missed the "Voice of the Whirlwind". Absolutely legendary series. If you only watched the 6 seasons go for the 3 Books that follow after. And if you really want more Info about the Characters, read "The Protomolecule". They really stepped the Series before the best 3 Seasons (books) came into Play... Also: Small Ultrapower ship will be the "Gathering Storm" right?

[@OzGoober]

Reverse invasion. Excellent!

[@TheStithLord_]

How do you make sure that the biter eggs are 100% unspoiled when you ship them up to space?

[@aurias42]

Lab research productivity is really not as cracked up as it seems due to most of the infinite researches doubling with every tier. I ran the calculations and without extreme Uber megabase building, you can get about 35 or so levels of research productivity before it gets to a level comparable to when most infinite researchers would be too much research to viably continue doing without waiting hours upon hours for each level. And yes that is accounting for the exact amount that each research will make the next research faster. Very intentionally, Lab research productivity levels take a little bit more each time than the amount that they reduce by. Those 35 or so levels seem like a lot but when you math out the doubling, you only get about four or five levels of infinite researches extra from all of those productivities before you're back to the same relative quantity / speed as you were before 35 levels of research. So ... Its cool, and SOME researches are super helpful, like basically anything that doesn't double every time is definitely insane But all the interesting ones... Don't really actually give you a broken amount in the end.

[@stevedark9334]

If youre not consuming the science the ship would get stuck over Nauvis with all the biter eggs waiting for them to spoil, which would yeet them into space. The issue might be that if the science consumption is poorly timed you might leave Nauvis with 80% spoiled eggs and not make any science for a cycle. Cant think of a simple solution to this though and dont know if its really even an issue with 100000 in storage on Nauvis in this scenario

[@cellfire7907]

put the request for eggs in a 2nd stop to nauvis after the current one. easy fix i think

[@electrowizard2000]

​@cellfire7907 how? Requests are per planet and not per stop right?

[@cellfire7907]

@@electrowizard2000 you add it right below the first stop. can have same planet 2 times in a row

[@electrowizard2000]

@cellfire7907 no I get you can have multiple stops in a row. But how do you prevent the load request at the first stop and allowed at the second stop? Unload requests can be disabled per stop with the checkbox, but that doesn't exist for load requests? If I set a load request for croissants at Nauvis, it'll always load afaik... Thanks.

[@cellfire7907]

@@electrowizard2000 oh sorry. you have to do that part on the planet by looking at orbital requests and currently stored science. that then allow the rocket to send orbital request = 15k eggs science stored =< 90k something like that, means ship will only take off once you used at least 10k science from the 100k.

[@GenFalcon]

Insane engineering

[@Secre.SwallowtailYT]

Your flamer throwers don't work on nauvis, plus your missing a pipe connection in the top right corner because of a cliff.

[@psiprime]

When will we get a tutorial on the New train System ?

[@justinwarde7230]

Is it just me or do I look at this and think of your risk for spoiling is mitigated on an empty ship would it not be worth increasing the amount of biter eggs and collect even more science per trip? Assuming storage on board isn’t an issue your going to use 40-50% of your biter eggs before you even need to reach the fields could increase your yield per trip to closer to 60-65k.. I’m just not sure it’s better then per trip with the time reduction per trip using most of the biter eggs before you reach the fields…

[@fransvaskebjorn198]

How do you get the planets as output from the radar? so that you can set the thruster speed depending on your destination

[@cuneytvural72]

Looks like you do not need to store ammo, maybe use that storage capacity for promethium?

[@Squeebus94]

Stack size: 1

[@zackzeed]

Pretty pointless because it only stacks to 1, and ammo reserves are there for backup.

[@dazley8021]

You skipped 56. unless you count your tutorial video as 56 even though it doesnt say that in the title.

[@dansilva5055]

It looks like the side collectors are not filtered to exclude promethium so they are grabbing that with no way to export.

[@PsychoDog2084]

Promethium chunks stacking on belt? How about bulk inserters in collectors?

[@fryvox3147]

They dont stack on belt

[@Sullrosh]

set the emergenct biter egg inserters to sspoiled first.

[@soul8bounce]

How is he actually controlling the ship speed? I get how to set up a portion of speed based on where your traveling to/from. Just don't understand how that actually controls the fuel pumps.

[@danielh.9010]

The pump is switched off and on based on a tick counter modulo a parameter that controls how often the pump is on.

[@sussyscylla3414]

Can you deal with all of these bots?

[@mordzalpha]

Space age optimized megabase blueprints when? 🙃

[@tristanc2271]

No walls on the battleship? :)

[@af4043]

I can’t change the quality of this video. Seems like it was uploaded at a low resolution?

[@windomser1]

have to make 10 times bigger ship

[@viltur83]

Instead of hard coding promithium. You can keep it on the grid and inject promithium with a constant campinqtor

[@fynchen2559]

Wann kommt das nächste Viedeo

[@reddragon4482]

Anyone know how to downgrade the items in blueprints? I'm playing space age unmodded and made a ship but it's all rare+ components and would like a standardized blueprints for some of my ships with normal components?

[@hades1737]

it's time consuming, you need to create a custom "upgrade planner", going from the quality they are to the quality you want. Honestly, I find it easier to paste a blueprint and then change it like that, then replace the blueprint.

[@reddragon4482]

@@hades1737 Yeah I was thinking that too, I assume there is a mod that could do this anyway but I was trying to get all the achievements for a laugh haha. Thanks for the response. I'll just have to do it the manual way like that then xD.

[@hades1737]

@@reddragon4482 no prob. one really good hotkey to switch quality easily are to press "q" on something to select a ghost of it, then hold "alt" and scroll up or down to change the quality, then just ctrl+shift click to force place it on what you're replacing. since learning that it's helped me a lot.

[@Sapeidra]

Make legendary promethium science. Just do it.

[@Sapeidra]

So tbh, this is actually a way to increase storage on the ship to have science with 6 times the value. Just dump it through recyclers. It surely isnt faster, but in a sense even denser belt weaving storage.

[@JP-pv2ze]

97% On that 5th research and he ends the video, uuuuurgh :D Could have been so satisfying to cut it right AFTER

[@guillermoelnino]

If brute force isn't working y ou're not using enough of it.

[@qassamfdoul1535]

Regarding the metroid collectors at the front, you can make a circuit condition where they collect all metroid when they are not flying in the shattered planets. this way you'll be sure that the ship will be able to collect the required resources for ammos on its trip inside the solar system thus making this process more automated

[@naikrovek]

this game is not friendly to whatever bitrate KZbin is serving these videos up to me. Chroma subsampling is murder. If you want a "cheap" way to increase quality of the videos, assuming you're recording them in a higher bitrate than KZbin is sending me, you could keep recording as you are, but master the videos in 4k, and then upload them in 4k. For 1080p viewers, little will change, but viewing 1080p content encoded in a 4k video will negate chroma subsampling and make the videos look much better. At least for me. Videos also simply get more bandwidth when they're encoded in 4k, even for the same content. So, if you feel like trying it, do everything the same, except the project in your editor will be UHD/4k, and the files you upload to KZbin will be larger. You're in Denmark so I assume you have 100Gbit/s upload for about 29 Euros a year or something awesome like that.

[@moofymoo]

madman!

[@DataScienceDIY]

Never use stack inserters for biter eggs 😅

[@ABO_SHHAB0]

GOOD BOY

[@aimsworth]

I'm an adult, I'm no longer 12 years old, I won't comment on the newly improved shape of the ship...

[@emperortgp2424]

The game really encourages designing questionably-shaped ships

[@HellvVratH]

MichaelHendricks proposes something similar to this "forbidden knowledge" of belt weaving

[@JacobMartin-l1f]

I'd wait with departure from nauvis until all the prom chunks are converted to science and the science is fully unloaded. That would (quite obviously) increase the overall prom sci throughput. It maximizes the extraction from those long (30 min) farming cycles.

[@K-o-R]

30:30 Mass deportations...

[@Evgeny-n9u]

привет от енота

[@Mr-Baster]

just place mines as imergency its more cheap and easy, and you can craft them in space

[@Nilaus]

And they destroy the ship ..

[@krazzykid1734]

Devs changed mines in space in the recent update to make them deal massive damage to the ship itself. They completely destroy the space foundations and any structures on them around the mine. 100% worthless in space now. Mines aren't even good as an emergency backup anymore due to the change as they deal basically equal or more damage than the impact itself would. Edit For the record they needed to be nerfed. Mines shouldn't be a valid defense in space, period. They SHOULD deal equal or more damage than the impact would. You set off an explosion on your own ship after all. There should be major consequences for that.

[@direct808]

Привет от Енота

[@krongegoire9580]

👍🏻

[@seabo9566]

Bro can you please make tutorials or like actual edited videos with explanations. Your work is awesome but sometimes we click a video for the title only to see it’s just you doddling around the factory in an unplanned fashion. Again that’s cool but can’t you make separate videos specifically talking about what’s in the title? It’s kind of annoying

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