PROOF Qui-Gon Jinn Would NEVER Join Dooku! [CANON] Tales of the Jedi

So this is an interesting question and one that was raised at the end of tales of the Jedi when dooku told Palpatine that Qui Gon could have been a powerful ally, had he not died. Sidious said, for you, and the conversation started to shift. So today, let’s discuss the possibilty of qui-gon actually turning away from the Jedi and joining dooku.
Now before we begin we need understand qui-gon a little bit better for those new to the channel and to Star Wars. Qui-Gon was a maverick. He went his own way. He wasn’t on the Jedi council by choice, he knew the decisions he made and his overall view of the force was what made him unfit in the council’s eyes. For example, many fans would argue that qui-gon jinn’s use of the force to manipulate the chance cube with Watto was an act of the dark side, or rather, more in the middle of light and dark, grey some would call it. I always saw it as him balancing the odds since Watto’s chance cube was rigged by Watto himself. Qui-Gon was all about trusting the force, and believing balance was key. This is why he would have literally been the best father figure and teacher to Anakin, preventing his whole downfall.
Now, here’s an excerpt from the book master and apprentice which is canon. It’s a quote from qui-gon jinn to rael aveross who was once Dooku’s apprentice that Qui-Gon grew close with.
"I don't turn toward the light because it means someday I'll 'win' some sort of cosmic game. I turn toward it because it is the light."
This line right here, helps us all see how qui-Gon really thought. That he didn’t use the light side because he felt elitist or like it’s the higher level thinking way of using the force. He uses it because it’s the light, and there is no other option.
While I do think Qui-Gon was growing very weary of the Jedi as time passed, including their poor belief in his reveal of fighting the first Sith Lord in a millennia, I don’t think he would have joined the dark side. Now, that’s not to say he wouldn’t have joined Dooku. Quite the opposite, I believe he would have joined dooku, however I don’t think he would have turned to the dark side. He wouldn’t have turned his back on obi-wan or anakin, I felt he was so deep in the light side that he felt using the force for anything that can be seen as the greater good while killing and causing turmoil against many innocents, would not be the jedi way, and for that reason I feel he would distance himself from his former master. He would for sure agree with Dooku when it came to how the jedi had become corrupt with politics and the dealings of the senate, but actually making decisions and collaborations with a sith lord like darth sidious, and knowing dooku was now darth tyranus, he wouldn’t ever accept such a title or position for himself. I think Qui-Gon’s ability to gauge what is the true meanin of the force and what is just the Jedi council bein brainwashed by politics and the senate, is what made him such an interesting character.
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[@dereklopez9060]

"I wish he were still alive. I could use his help right now." After watching Tales Of The Jedi, that line hits harder now.

[@enegmatixerebro]

💯

[@82saw3]

Yeah, I look at that line completely different now. As if Dooku felt he would have never be in this position, if Qui Gon was still around to keep him honest.

[@Bontai69]

@@82saw3 not entirely true. In tales Dooku was still assisting Palpatine while Qui Gon was still alive. The movies quote is pretty much ruined if you treat tales as cannon.

[@Jjj-zz7bz]

@@Bontai69 I mean he just said he could use his help, not that he would’ve not been a sith. It’s not ruined

[@gaming-verseandadditionalv2500]

I agree dude

[@mapenzii]

Qui Gon is such a good representative of a 'Jedi'. All his qualities are incredible compared to many other Jedis.

[@jiffypoo5029]

Grey Jedi doesn't mean Dark Jedi. Grey Jedi disregard the code's dogma and follow the will of the force even if it takes them somewhere a bit dark. Grey Jedi don't shy away from lying, cheating or romantic relationships. Grey Jedi see the code as a suggestion.

[@georgehouliaras7239]

@@jiffypoo5029 So basically villains who don't admit that they are villains? More commonly known as Anti Heroes.

[@jiffypoo5029]

@@georgehouliaras7239 No, they are Good Jedi that are tired of following the strict dogma of Jedi Council. Anger can be a positive thing and Compassion can be a negative thing. Grey Jedi find nuance.

[@georgehouliaras7239]

@@jiffypoo5029 So they want to believe in a religion without following any rules of said religion? Ridiculous. It's like believe in God but you break the 10th commandments when you want to. The Force has rules. Negative emotions corrupt your mind and flesh. Wielding the Force is a great responsibility that requires discipline. The Light Side is that discipline. Sure the Jedi are not perfect but perfection itself does not exists and if I lived in the Star Wars universe, I would only worship the Light Side which heals and protects and not the Dark Side which corrupts and destroys.

[@jiffypoo5029]

@@georgehouliaras7239 You don't need strict dogma to be a good person or follow the will of the force. Strict Jedi Dogma led to the Fall of the Republic. Saturday morning Jedi Code door knockers are super annoying too.

[@MasterChiefSpartan117]

I really want to see a Star Wars What If Series elaborating an entire timeline on What would happen if Qui-Gon Jinn survived.

[@joelfernandez7674]

The series was called Infinites Star Wars...a what if comic.

[@Duckverse]

What If Obi Wan took the death sti-

[@theredhare2483]

“Don’t worry, master! I can just use Force Healing” “Oh shit you right” Written and directed by George Lucas

[@yaboifrankie]

Yes

[@willbeard4835]

​@@Duckverse obi wan running spice would be a great series

[@RetneysHolocron]

I think Qui-Gon would've wanted to help Dooku out of loyalty and respect. In "Master & Apprentice," he tries to contact Dooku on Serenno and never gets a response. I think that if he did try to help Dooku, he would be shocked when he found out the things Dooku has done, like killing Yaddle. Qui-Gon would never turn to the dark side, so I think he ultimately would've had to oppose Dooku in the end, even if he tried to help him at first.

[@Hard_Boiled_Entertainment]

I doubt Dooku would have killed Yaddle had Qui Gon lived

[@meganofsherwood3665]

Agreed. Heck, we might have even gotten a bit of a Vader-and-Luke situation, with Dooku reaching a point where he chooses Qui-Gon (and the light) over Palpatine, or tried actively to protect his former padawan.

[@ThreadBareHope1234]

Agreed. Plus, I think Qui Gon refused a seat on the council BUT stayed with the Order even when he disagreed with them bc he still had influence as he is highly respected by most Jedi. He is good, he is opinionated, but he is not a quitter. I think QG liked aspects of the code bc "it is the light", there is objective truth in it, and had hope that things could change for better with people like himself in the Jedi Order.

[@amyb.6368]

Sidious said, "For you." I think that means he knew Dooku would have stayed on the Light side if Qui-Gon had lived. More than that, I think between Dooku and Qui-Gon being vocal and taking action, the Jedi Order would have turned away from all the politicking.

[@benjaminsummers7408]

That was my thinking too. Say Qui Gon lived... whose to say that he wouldnt have given Dooku advice on how to stay within/ return to the Jedi.

[@silverhand8744]

For real, I think of dooku and qui gon really hammerd at them , and especially with possibly obi wan and Anakin backing them up, they could have possibly taken the order in a different direction

[@TheRealAlpha2]

I feel like he would have had an effect, but they would both have probably left the order, maybe taking others with them, because the sentiment that the Jedi had lost there way wasn't theirs alone.They wouldnt have left to join the Dark side but continued to act under the guidance of the force the way Qui-gon did, naturally.

[@ThreadBareHope1234]

I agree. While I do think staying up to date on politics was one way of being connected to the people that need them, they were too passive, not using that knowledge to have positive influence. In my opinion, Qui Gon stayed with the Order He must've had hope that things could change for better with people like himself in the Jedi Order. Even when he disagreed with them, he still had influence as he is highly respected by most Jedi. And it isn't just the Star Wars universe that needs more men like him, but also our world.

[@SuperStitch54321]

I personally feel Qui gon is in between Dooku and Obi wan. He has some doubts like Dooku did and was an independent thinker. However he was like Obi wan in the sense that he was always in the light and wouldn't actively try to betray the Jedi Order.

[@R4D4_]

I think Qui-Gon may have joined Dooku as a Separatist, but never if he knew Dooku was a Sith.

[@snipadk4146]

In my opinion, I feel like since Qui-Gonn was never political, and only followed the force, he wouldn’t join Dooku as a Separatist. I feel like Qui-Gonn would consider joining Dooku as a force user trying to find balance and trying to bring about peace throughout the galaxy, but the second he finds out about Dooku being a Sith he would realize that Dooku’s ideologies and original good intentions are being clouded/corrupted by the dark side. This would most likely shift their relationship because Qui-Gonn can’t believe his master would fall to the dark side. Sidious would likely see Dooku being distracted from this and he’d probably find out from Dooku why happened. Then, Sidious would most likely order Dooku to kill Qui-Gonn as to not ruin any of his plans, thus leading to more of an internal struggle within Dooku. Ofc anything else could’ve happened, but that’s what I think. :)

[@NickyHelp]

Highly doubtful. He wouldn't join the seperatist even if they were not allied to the sith. His allegiance is to the republic and to the people too.

[@snipadk4146]

@@NickyHelp I agree somewhat, however, I'd say his allegiance is to all innocent people as he would serve only the force. In the clone wars show we see that not all Separatists have evil/bad intentions when Padme and Ahsoka go to visit one of Padme's old colleagues who joined the separatist movement. Instead of Qui-Gonn's allegiance being with the republic, imo I think he doesn't serve any political party, only the people who would need his help.

[@NickyHelp]

@@snipadk4146 I do know that not all the separatists are bad. Lux and his mother were living proof of that, before Lux's mother was murdered by Dooku and other separatists lie about it when he's telling the truth. And you wonder why Lux joined the republic as senator of Onderon. And about Qui-Gon, that's exactly what I meant by being a Jedi that they were suppose to be and meant to be (which many Jedi had forgotten, which led many to their deaths and where they regretted it); A Jedi to the people, when they are in need, and one that serves to the force, not to politics or evil.

[@snipadk4146]

@@NickyHelp I agree

[@ihaveafettfetish9348]

Qui-Gon was the greatest and purest example of a Jedi imo. Even Yoda realized how wise Qui-Gon was, and somewhat became his student when Qui-Gon was teaching him how to become a Force Ghost. Losing Qui-Gon destroyed Dooku and Anakin, and brought chaos to the Universe. Qui-Gon is by far my favorite Jedi and one of my top 3 favorite characters in Star Wars.

[@NickyHelp]

Yeah, he was the jedi that people like the sisters (who Ahsoka befriended in s7) wanted them to be. He was what the Jedi were supposed to be: To the people, not to Politics.

[@ThreadBareHope1234]

Agreed. I think Qui Gon refused a seat on the council BUT stayed with the Order even when he disagreed with them bc he still had influence as he is highly respected by most Jedi. He is good, he is opinionated, but he is not a quitter. I think QG liked aspects of the code bc "it is the light", there is objective truth in it, and had hope that things could change for better with people like himself in the Jedi Order.

[@ethanmsmith8311]

I could not imagine Qui Gon ever joining Dooku. If anything he would’ve convinced him to stay in the light. After all his death was what drove him over the edge, but if Dooku were to turn for some reason while Qui Gon was alive, it wouldn’t be for very long or it wouldn’t happen at all.

[@starwarsarchitect]

I think Dooku would’ve stayed in the light had he talked to Qui-Gon before he talked to sidious

[@jokinglemon007]

Depends on what you consider "light". Dooku would neither stay in the ways of the senate nor would he have become a full blow sith. And the same would be for Qui-gon. I think they both would have helped each other become what Jedi were truly meant to be, which in the eyes of the senate wouldn't be the light side.

[@starwarsarchitect]

@@jokinglemon007 yeah I agree with that that’s basically how I see it. Qui-gon would’ve swayed him back to the light I believe before he’d join the darkside. The light is love and that is what’s truly good

[@donramon9723]

In the old canon, one big reason why Dooku left the order was because of qui-gon's death and " the lost 20 Jedi" that left as proof that the Jedi Council was out of touch with the happenings and larger shifts of the Force. It was not till later that Dooku joined Sidious to become more powerful.

[@starwarsarchitect]

@@donramon9723 oh that’s interesting where did you read that I’d like to read it!

[@starcabal2006]

Well im not sure but probably not if Qui Gon found out about his master joining the sith he'd be shocked and confused, but might be convinced cause of dooku and qui gon's connection as a son and father during their young years as Jedi. But idk how Anakin and Obi Wan would react to qui gon joining dooku.

[@hotredtiger316]

This video also reminds me that you owe us a Part 3 to your What If video series on Qui-Gon surviving the duel of the fates on Naboo, leaving the Order, and training Anakin as a balanced Force adept rather than a Jedi.

[@meganofsherwood3665]

Yes please!

[@ihaveafettfetish9348]

We really need more Qui-Gon and Dooku content. They have such a great bond, and their distrust and disdain for the corrupt Jedi Council/Order makes me respect them so much more.

[@ThreadBareHope1234]

I kinda see what you mean. I think Qui Gon refused a seat on the council BUT stayed with the Order even when he disagreed with them bc he still had influence as he is highly respected by most Jedi. He is good, he is opinionated, but he is not a quitter. I think QG liked aspects of the code bc "it is the light", there is objective truth in it, and had hope that things could change for better with people like himself in the Jedi Order.

[@Schumacher190]

Luke using Qui Gon's crystal to construct his own lightsaber is my head cannon. No one can convince me otherwise. I LOVE that possibility.

[@samparsons5867]

I am disappointed that Disney didn't show Qui-Gon's lightsaber buried with obiwan's and Anakin's lightsaber in the Kenobi series. It was one of the little bits that I was hoping for but never got

[@KoyMcCloud]

Honestly, I think Qui-Gon was the only one that could have brought Dooku back the light side, as Luke was the only one who could redeem Anakin. Thus adding more tragedy to Qui-Gon's death, not only could Anakin's darth path been prevented, but Dooku may have been saved as well.

[@user-tc1fw5ms5s]

I want more Dooku Qui Gon stories!!!!! A clone wars style animated season about them would be so dope. I loved what we got in tales of the jedi

[@doctordakotascorpio7047]

qui gon truly was different from the other jedis during that time especially the jedi counsel and their short shortsightedness at times

[@rarri816]

Great breakdown of what could’ve been had Qui-gon survived the duel against Maul. I’ve enjoyed your videos since I was still in high school back in 2016, and you never disappoint with your breakdowns, they are concise and well thought out. I would love to discuss Star Wars and share our thoughts someday.

[@hippoace]

hence the music is duel of the fates

[@makukenobi5385]

Qui gon jinn is like everyone’s favorite we need more of him on screen

[@FindingTheForce]

Thank you Theory for helping me appreciate Qui-Gon more. 👍🏻

[@clonedavenger]

So many of us prequel kids loved Qui Gon-Jinn. I am so glad we have gotten more material as time has passed on, and most of the material being very good! I really enjoyed the Jedi Apprentics youth novels growing up! Thanks for the video!

[@Alex.2319]

Thankful for your opinions and dedication theory

[@SpaceAcex]

Awesome work including the master & apprentice book. Thought it really deepened his character even more. Him and Obi WAN’s relationship was a stand out. Would really love to see something with qui gon with padawan obi wan. Perhaps future Tales of the Jedi episodes

[@Baptiser]

Your voice work is fire bro -- we're not sleeping on your skills! Why you aren't doing pro work is astonishing

[@JVC_TV]

The audible of that book, is great!

[@ChrisSmith-5655]

This is the content I love from you

[@ChrisSmith-5655]

You just won yourself a report! I guess next you'll be starwarstheory_2?

[@tylerswanson6358]

I feel like Palpatine must have known how Qui-Gon refused to blindly follow politics/the council and that's (one of the reasons) why he didn't spare him for Dooku's sake.

[@davidrandall7357]

Thank you theory! Such good star wars words of wisdom.

[@vaderkeytheory5992]

Therory you pulled a better Liam Nelson impression then I could ever do

[@moemonte]

Would have luved to see some series with Qui-Gon in his adventures from training with Dooku and also teaching Obi Wan.

[@shraken_of_darktide9066]

Honestly I really find Qui-Gon Jinn and Ahsoka Tano to have very similar views of the force just like Qui-Gon Jinn after Ahsoka was falsely accused and almost arrested and the Jedi Council tried to play it off as if it was some sort of training exercise she can sense that they were lying to her and at point I think Ahsoka got a glimpse of the bigger picture so as far as being a quote unquote gray Jedi and also seeing how ashoka's Master Anakin fell to the dark side and Qui-Gon jinn's master Count Dooku fell to the dark side I see a lot of similarities between those two characters and I kind of get the feeling that the character of Ahsoka Tano was created to try and continue Qui-gons story as if he had never died and found out and discovered everything that was going on and happening within the Senate and the Jedi Council. Now I don't think Qui-Gon would have fallen to the dark side but have walked away from the Jedi Order becoming a what you would call a Gray Jedi I don't know that's all I feel that's my opinion.

[@Katarn37]

It reminds me of what Prosset Dibs said to Windu , that the Jedi are no longer fighting for what they used to , that they are corrupted and stuff and he became the 10th brother after he was released by palpatine to destroy what he thinks the jedi have become , just like Dooku in a way , even though he wasn’t a sith lord .. But I think Qui-Gon would have stormed out from the jedi order as he would have seen the bigger picture of how the jedi became pawns ,if he’d stayed I think it would have destroyed him in degrees

[@Luv2tickt]

Perhaps parts of Ahsoka's story is that of what Qui-Gon would have become had he lived. Qui-Gon would have become so disillusioned with the Jedi, he would have ended up leaving. And yes he would have sought counsel in his old master. I think Qui-Gon would have gone back to warn the Jedi Council, however, in their blindness and at the same time arrogance, they would have again discounted the warnings. Qui-Gon would have eventually set out on his own path, perhaps trying to bring along Obi-Wan and Anakin in an effort to keep them from falling to the trap being set by the Poppa Palpatine.

[@zomish13]

That is my favorite quote from Master and Apprentice and Qui-Gon. And it really struck Rael too, because Rael quoted him when Dooku tried to get him to leave the order as well. Also with Rael, and him not being the best at following Jedi rules, he was also one of the oldest children trained to be a Jedi until Anakin. Rael was 6 years old when he was taken from his family.

[@user-rg7gm4rh9c]

Love your vids

[@josephjoestar1139]

Man this felt so old school Theory, I miss the old prequel days

[@dansokulski4039]

Great one Theory!

[@ace360]

Another Amazing What if General Theory 💚🙏

[@TheBohobemeister]

Wonderful video! My sister and I think that Qui-Gon would've been able to bring Dooku back to the light.

[@americantrash593]

Qui gon would've never joined Dooku. Jinn was what jedi we're supposed to be. He was a true one and that's why he'll always be my favorite. We definitely need a Qui Gon tales of the jedi episodes.

[@Yabuturtle]

Both Jinn and Dooku knew the senate was corrupt and that the Jedi Order were far from perfect. But Jinn is the one who wouldn't take things too far. Oddly his older more experienced master is the one that was being unwise by falling to the dark side. Jinn knew things had to be changed, but he knew Dooku's way would not be the best way to do it.

[@shaljesi4579]

Just like Palpatine was the consummate Sith, Qui-Gon was the epitome of Jedi. Great video!

[@connorwykes7561]

You should do a video about what factions you would join, Jedi/Sith, Republic/Separatists, Empire/Rebellion, etc, and why. I'd love to see where you'd fall!!!

[@mithosirving]

it all started in banes day when a Valoram wanted the jedi to answer to the senate, and while they were good intentions that led the edi down the path to ruin, while bane and his succsessors slowly corrupted the galaxay like a poison

[@juangal7569]

I'm also seriously hoping Luke's Kyler crystal is Qui-Gon's, that representation where his teachings or his wisdom lives on passed to Luke in a way. That would just nail it in so Epic!

[@scipioafricanus2212]

Yeah that is a much better touch than Yoda having Qui Gon's cloak which, from a narratives perspective, is totally inconsequential. As you say, there is a lot of symbolism to Luke having QuI Gon's crystal because Luke was essentially the complete jedi.

[@jeskerjames3260]

I think it's more likely Qui-Gon would have prevented Dooku from turning to the dark side. He probably would have talked with Dooku and together they would agree they needed to leave the order with Anakin and go do their own thing, starting a secret order of force wielders somewhere else. There is zero chance of Qui-Gon turning from the light side. Like he said, he chooses the light because it is the light. That is a mindset of a man who has forsaken all else in service of the ultimate good in the universe. He aligns himself to that and that alone. Once someone reaches that level of wisdom, it is damn near impossible to ever have them fall. Also I think the reason Qui-Gon couldn't reach out to Anakin to stop him from becoming Vader is the same reason Anakin couldn't reach out to Ben Solo to stop him from becoming Kylo Ren. I have a theory that because Force Ghosts are the end result of following the light side to the fullest, they can't reach out to those in darkness. It's like the dark side blinds them to the voice of Force Ghosts. What I would have loved to have seen is instead of Ben having a memory of Han show up after he turns back to the light, have Anakin appear and finally reconcile this obsession Ben had with Vader. Have Ben ask, "Why did you never reach out to me before?" And Anakin would explain, "I tried to Ben...I tried to so many times. But you were so steeped in the dark side that it deafened your ears, blinded your eyes, and closed off your heart to me. Only now that you have taken your first step back into the light have I been able to speak to you as you are now."

[@meganofsherwood3665]

Yes! Yes please!

[@joeyschuchardt8695]

Qui-Gon is what a true Jedi should be. He's wise, kind, always in tune with Force, and a fierce warrior when necessary.

[@colinmcv2715]

If he had survived and stayed with the Jedi, I wonder how he would’ve adapted to being a general during the Clone Wars

[@1mikerider]

Luke having Qui Gon green Kyber crystal would be awesome!

[@nathanskywalker1536]

Great video SW theory

[@purplebondsaiyan2987]

Qui Gon Jinn Should've Saved Dooku From Turning to The Dark Side!!! Love this Video @Star Wars Theory You Should Do one of your What Ifs on What If Kanan Jarrus Learned Vi' Paad from His Master Depa Billaba? If Mace Windu Would've Allowed For that to Happen

[@shadowfang269]

Qui-gon always struck me as the ideal jedi, and what a jedi should be. So while I believe he would have left the order with his master I don’t think he would have gone along with Sidious and Dooku’s plans. I would actually argue he would try to keep Dooku from joining Sidious or at the least during the clone war would try to turn him back to the light much like Luke did with Vader. Unfortunately due to having to get Anakin to being Vader he had to die.

[@cadet_e]

let's go im here early this time!!

[@AceSpadeThePikachu]

I feel like Qui Gon would have done what Ashoka did in Clone Wars; he would have grown frustrated with the Jedi council and walked out but stayed on the Light side as a sort of "lone ranger," or maybe even tried to start a separate Jedi school somewhere in the Outer Rim where he could teach and train young Force sensitives and other disillusioned Jedi (Anakin included) in his views of The Force, far away from the politics of the Core worlds.

[@Zebrahhh]

A “what if” animated series where an episode is about Quigon living and going through a similar scenario you talked of in this video @starwarstheory

[@swisstikkie9583]

The amount of potential that Star Wars has for a “What if?” show on Disney+ is massive, I wish people like Dave or Theory himself worked on Disney.

[@zacqueeentertainment7336]

I think he wouldve believed Dooku but his compassion and genuine concern would've persuaded Dooku back to the light side saying the dark side would not be the way. Dooku would not have joined the Jedi but the grey side of the force.

[@john98765333]

I like to think that QuiGon's help wouldn;t be him turning to the sith, but rather Helping Dooku find other means to reform the Jedi and beat the Sith.

[@samparsons5867]

I like that idea. I think yaddle would have joined them too. She saw what they saw and stepped down from the council. Had things gone differently, she would have helped reformed the jedi

[@goldenbullet5077]

I would’ve loved to seen qui gon in Star Wars more I think he would’ve joined dooku but wouldn’t have turned to the dark side but I think he might’ve helped dooku not turn to a Sith too

[@Major98]

Qui-gon and Obi-wan are the ideal image of a Jedi. Humble and honorable

[@NanukaBereka]

Qui Gon is such a good representative of a jedi all his qualities are incredidle compared to many other jedis

[@alphanacho27x]

Could you make a video explaining how darth mauls lightsaber still worked even after being cut in half. I’ve always wondered why this happened

[@chewy99.]

I completely agree. He may have left the order and worked with Dooku. Though not as a sith or working for the sith, or some pawn of theirs.

[@TheAmericanCrusader]

I would love to see Qui-Gon confronting his old master and pleading with Dooku to return to the Light.

[@wij2012Gaming]

Had quigon survived, I think he would've left the order and maybe even have joined with dooku for awhile but would be left when he found out about all the deaths he and palpatine had caused. Imagine if that were the case and then obiwan had sent ahsoka to meet him after she left the order. That would have been a powerhouse duo.

[@Foxster_13]

I don't think he would have joined the Darkside but like you said, perhaps joined Dooku or at the very least stayed in contact from time to time. If Qui-Gon had survived, I always like to think that perhaps he would one day leave the Jedi to perhaps create his own Order of those who stay out of politics and follow the ways of the force and the light. Not sure if that would have happened but I think it could be a cool What If moment.

[@majorastorm]

Imagine if Qui gon survived fighting maul, just to die by his master's hands later on. Dude that would of broke me

[@ZenKrio]

Why does Qui Gon appear older than Dooku? It was a thing that in Ep1, Qui Gon's age is why he wasn't able to beat Maul, he lacked stamina as a result, yet Dooku had zero issues being one of the best duelists in Star Wars canon.

[@Scorpion951]

I don’t think he would join Dooku but bring him back to reason and see the light through the force again like he taught obiwan trust in the force

[@darianolivares408]

I don’t think he’d had joined the dark side, fighting for palps wishes. I do think he’d see that the Jedi order has strayed too far away. I think him obi wan and anakin may have started a new order that possibly ended up fighting the Jedi.

[@MrMortyBaby]

Amazing

[@michaelglasen768]

Dude it would be such a cool thing to know that Luke’s crystal is literally from qui gons lightsaber. A cool thing with the flow of masters, something being passed down.

[@martyrobinson7151]

According to Shadows of the Empire, Luke synthetically created his lightsaber crystal. He did use Kenobi's plans though and built it in his house on Tatooine

[@mindwipe8788]

for me I see Qui-Gon sensing that something was slightly off about his former master words, he would probably keep Dooku at arm's length til he finally learned the truth of Dooku being a sith lord, afterwards he might start planning to hide from Palpatine's gaze via slowly reducing his force signature and then when the time was right tell Obi-wan of his plan preserve the Jedi teachings by escaping to a secluded part of the galaxy to prepare for a coming darkness that he perceived though the Force. P.S. but this is only speculation on my part if I were in his position.

[@kaptenzoom]

Have you seen the series star wars resistance and if you have what are your thoughts on it ?

[@erickgower5867]

You should do a What If Anakin and Obi Wan switched places in AOTC

[@baneandeddu8115]

LOVE IT

[@gamingjosh7345]

Hello There theory? How is your day? Btw I love your theories they are so creative, and your breakdowns are so amazing. After my dad and I have finished the new episode of Andor we go straight to YT to watch your breakdown!

[@DarthVadersBurntAsshole]

Theory’s Qui Gon impression needs to be Order 66’d

[@Mephilis78]

Up to Lucas... I don't he'd speculate. He's rather final when it comes to his decisions. I've seen him shut down "what if" questions before. His answer would probably be "He was always going to die" or something.

[@iSingToooMuch]

I kind of see this debate in a different matter; what if qui-gon never joined anyone or stayed anywhere? Not with the Jedi, not with Dooku at his fall, what if, after training Obi Wan, he wanted out? I feel thats a very real possibility and very real thought of a lot of Jedi who go through their training, become a Jedi Knight, and witness the broader picture of what the Jedi were at that time.

[@christb32]

I think he would have left the order and joined Dooku, discovered Tyranus' plans and his manipulation of Dooku, left them and warned the Jedi but would not have gone back to the order. He would become a traveler roaming the universe, training and living within the will of the force, which sometimes lead him to do great things for "good". But sometimes took him down a path that he thought to be "wrong" but did not fully understand the will of the force at the time.

[@jiffypoo5029]

Grey Jedi aren't Dark Jedi they are Jedi that see the code as a suggestion; Dooku created a line of Grey Jedi who disregard the council and follow the will of the force even if it takes them to a dark place. There is a direct line from Dooku's training to Ahsoka and Luke. Even Obi-Wan despite being on the council was constantly lying, stealing, having a secret girlfriend, hiding things from the council and even a few assassinations. Grey Jedi doesn't mean Dark Jedi.

[@darthlazurus4382]

Aye, most don't realise that Grey Jedi are still Jedi, they are just Jedi on the fridges of the Jedi Order.

[@donramon9723]

Obi Wan : Remember, a Jedi can feel the Force flowing through him. Luke: You mean it controls your actions? Obi Wan: Partially, but it also obeys your commands. A New Hope Is definitely canon.

[@smilingsaiyan8357]

Hmm I'm wondering now 🤔 I feel maybe Qui-gon may have like telling Dooku this isn't the way kind of thing when he finds out more on what's happening and then Sidious would get cranky and might end up with a Qui gon and Dooku vs Sidious before they could dob palpatine in maybe ?

[@onelunglarry]

i always like to think about how different anakin would be in his older years if he was trained by Qui Gon

[@ThreadBareHope1234]

Same. Too, maybe seeing Qui Gon make Anakin the (almost) ideal Jedi despite everything the council knew about his future would make other jedi start thinking like Qui Gon. Imo, Qui Gon stayed with the Order so long bc he felt he had influence there that could change the order for better. If Qui Gon lived, I think others would begin questioning the Republic's policies and things that allowed evil people to have too much power. The jedi being involved in politics was a great opportunity to help the Republic stay uncorupted, and they chose to be passive.

[@cjtrules1]

I think Qui-Gon would definitely leave The Jedi Order at some point but not to join The Dark Side. He is are Grey Jedi character of the franchise so he'll remain there. One thing you didn't touch is if Qui-Gon survives the duel with Darth Maul then Obi-Wan probably doesn't become so dogmatic and like Qui-Gon with Dooku, Obi-Wan would slowly adopt Qui-Gon's perspective on some things which would make him question the Order more. He wouldn't be training Anakin so that pressure is gone. Maybe he'd have a different apprentice a lot later in life though.

[@stars6531]

Will you have what if animations

[@WretchedSound]

I think under the right circumstances he would've joined the Separatist movement, but not the Sith. Dooku's Sith alignment would've been the deal breaker. Also, you're so right. That always bothered me in AOTC. The Jedi confirm that the clone army was created after being commissioned by a Jedi without the approval of the Council, but when fear took over the senate and people started preaching, "We need that clone army" the Jedi just rolled with it. *facepalm -- Nice video, man!

[@wandererwbw]

I see him as a true jedi too. He was more focused on the force and of the living. I don't think he ever fall to the darkside even he has been tempted or close to fall in legends (Xanatos and Tahl incidents). He passed the tests if you ask me.

[@Drrck11]

Good video. I believe Qui Gon would have left the Jedi Order, but not turn to the dark side. He probably would be like Ahsoka and just keep a low-profile living a simple life, but helping people from time to time.

[@azurewyrm66]

Would Qui-Gon have gone to the Dark Side? No. Would he have helped Dooku, say with the Clones or other things that weren't overtly Dark Side related? Sure, I think that he would. I think that in that scene with Dooku and Sidious Yaddle was, in a way, a stand-in for Qui-Gon; that once Qui-Gon knew about Sidious the same scenario would have played out. Sidious would have invoked The Rule of Two, manipulated Dooku into fighting his former Padawan, and even if they joined forces against him Sidious would have killed them both.

[@michaelpaulmwasa733]

IF we are going to explore the alternate universes like marwel, this story would be a good one. imagin the back and forrth between in the scheemes of episod 1 and 2 but with kwaigon alive and with dooku and palpetine. he would have been ok with the plot but just to a surton point. after that point he would have taken further actions as action of too much dark...hm.. i really like it

[@MistFxlol]

I think he would of joined till they used dark side powers and joined sidious as qui gon doesn’t agree with the Jedi but he certainly doesn’t agree with the sith I certainly would’ve loved to see it tho DARTH QUIGON 😮 Loved the video ❤

[@a1cjdc]

I think Qui-gon would have turned Dooku instead of the other way around. Maybe not back to the council, but away from Palpatine.

[@dannywhitson9954]

I think you are right in the depiction of Qui-gon. And I think the decision to stay with his former master wold have been a hard one in the moment. Like Dooku and waddle. Just think he would have chosen differently. Now as far as the Obi-Wan to anakin teaching scenario. Think the problem with Obi-Wan was that he was dogmatic like the counsel. They're words were "gospel" to him without questioning of any kind just like Mace! Were it not for that I think he could have mentored Anakin better!

[@samparsons5867]

Of course Obiwan thought of it as gospel. He was young and eager to please. However, as the clone wars dragged on. He saw how far the council would go, especially when they asked Anakin to spy on the chancellor. However, when Anakin turned and after 10 years of mourning. He finally moved on and became the Jedi that his master saw

[@MasterRoshi8974]

QuiGon is my all time favorite jedi, all my life since 93 Yoda was my number 1 but now its is Mr.Jinn

[@mikaelacash3791]

I really wish we had more canon content about Qui-Gon. I don't think he would have ever joined the Dark Side. As you said, I see him as a Jedi in the term's truest form. And I completely agree that he probably would have left the Jedi Order and gone a more "Ahsoka route" as I call it. Though, I do have to say, even though it's not "canon" anymore (boo!!!), my first introduction to Star Wars was with my obsession with the 'Jedi Apprentice' EU/Legends books as a kid, and Qui-Gon did sway towards the darkness for a very brief period of time from what I remember because of events I will not spoil in case anyone ever does wanna read the series (seriously, the books were so good!). Considering how much Star Wars knowledge you have, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. So we know that everyone has a breaking point. Simply just being disillusioned from the Jedi Order, though? No way. That wouldn't have turned him to the Dark Side. Also, I just wanna say that I never read the 'Master & Apprentice' book, mainly because of my attachment to the 'Jedi Apprentice' series, but I am glad to hear they kept that Qui-Gon thought Obi-Wan was such a loser at first! I remember how none of the other Jedi Masters wanted to train Obi-Wan in the EU series 😂 I really need to go back and read those books, 'cause I don't remember everything or how exactly Obi-Wan ended up being taken on by Qui-Gon despite being seen as no-good. They're so hard to find nowadays, but I got lucky because the visually impaired digital library I use just so happens to have most of the series. The only benefit I've ever found to being visually impaired: being able to find those old books. Lol

[@TheRealCozy]

Master and apprentice novel shows why he didn’t accept the council seat. I feel like if he was still alive when Anakin was going through it he would’ve got through anakins thick skull and told him the master title means nothing and that he would’ve helped Anakin behind closed doors

[@rickyricardo21]

Had Dooku asked Qui-Gon to join him on Coruscant It would've gone down like Obi-Wan vs Darth Vader. But with help by the entire Jedi Council. Possibly Dooku would been beaten and detained. Maybe, just maybe Dooku could've been reformed and saw the error of his way. Then again, maybe not. ...but then I think of how Palpatine had no further use of him once Anakin had him disarmed (literally) and on his knees. I think he saw working with Palpatine as a means to an end, to teach the Jedi a lesson to not interfere in the politics of the Galactic Republic, and go back to being peace-keepers. Qui-Gon's death further deepened his disgust and set him on a warpath with the Jedi. Too bad he realized too late right when Palpatine said "Do it." That he was just a Pawn, in Palpatine's game.