This MASSIVE Change Just SHOCKED The Car Market!

[@mikonrad]

"The car market crash starts now" has been a content cow since 2020.

[@MLesp]

Yes, I just Unsubscribe to this guys, he is like ford.

[@mikonrad]

Lol, looks like he changed the title. "Yeah, I guess "car market crash" title was last week, let's change to the two-weeks-ago title". Going from car lots, pointing out ridiculous pricing (because gouging never existed before today), and pointing out mass layoffs (which also never happened before today), is very hard-hitting original journalism. As long as it makes that sweet KZbin money I guess.

[@Noobz-347]

Thank goodness for all the "suckers" that just have to have it when it comes out. Let the lemmings flush out the lemons.

[@WZD10016]

Same thing ALWAYS happens at Year End with new incoming inventory. Same rhetoric. THIS GUY IS THE MSNBC & CNN of the dealer network. Propaganda & Lies

[@why6212]

​@@mikonrad no, KZbin lets you run the video with multiple titles and thumbnail images to see what gets more clicks

[@ronernst3991]

I'd throw money at my old car before I bought any new crap

[@ravagetime]

I wish I hadn't done that with my old Subaru.

[@oldbloke204]

I used to think that way but not any more. With the costs of parts and labour it quickly becomes a no win game very quickly if you're not careful. These days I buy new with a long warranty so that all we have to pay for in the warranty period will likely be a set of tyres and a battery. Also paying cash means that there's no interest.

[@WTF-sh4is]

Even $60k for a Bronco would be overpriced!

[@2256jimmy]

Especially with the catastrophic engine failures due to outsourcing engine parts.

[@eharris3021]

Yup and I been dreaming of one of those big body Bronco since they arrived on scene but I refuse to those prices. I'm rocking my '08 F150 Super Crew Lariat...NO PAYMENTS makes that truck a rock star for me!!!

[@danwolfe7665]

I’d rather have an old 95-96 bronco.

[@davesiringo7147]

60k should be for a PAIR of them.

[@djb1273]

10k is overpriced

[@webmastersof]

$8,000 off a vehicle that is 50% overpriced is not a deal! Whatever they have marked for their price you can cut that in half and that is what the actual value of that vehicle is worth. They all seem to have forgotten where their money comes from. They are now being reminded.

[@digit4455]

100%

[@inchranger]

well, it is technically. You people in the comments have it ass backwards because you dont even understand the difference between Money or currency. That green paper in your wallet? Cash.. its worth far less than you think. Go ahead, fact-check me.. Go download an inflation calculator for your phone. Take a $100 of 2023' USD because it will always be 1 yr behind data sets... and compare that to a $100 in 1970. You should see that a $100 in 2023 has a buying power of $12.74 or less maybe by now. When I was arguing this back in 2013 it was as high as $24.. At the same time, you should see the buying power of $100 in 1970 is around $884 +/-.. this is why our grandparents in the 70's had a $126 mortgages, to them they felt like they were paying close to a 1000 mortgage back then.. my fathers brand new 1968 Malibu was $3400 and some change OTD back then. When I argued with him about the cost of cars in 2012, I showed him that comparatively, he paid about what at the time a Mid level Toyota Camry was going for - About $23,300. So its not the products that cost more the way most people are describing your money is just worth less.. Another example, a $20 Federal Reserve Note, could in 1933 be taken to any bank and exchanged for a Gold 1oz Coin. if you look today, gold is at the time of writing this - As of 6:14 AM PST on December 13, 2024, the price of gold was $2,677.06 per ounce. Did the USD lose value? or did Golds value increase because its more expensive? MATH doesn't lie, men do. Again feel free to fact check me or revisit your history folks.. Your angry at all the wrong things for all the wrong reasons.

[@webmastersof]

@@inchranger Once again they can ask whatever they want for the vehicle however they've forgotten that they need people to buy their vehicles however people don't need to buy their vehicles. In other words they need us more than we need them. Most people work for a living and cannot afford to pay $60,000 and $80,000 for a vehicle that's only worth $30,000 or $40,000. So once again they can ask whatever they want for their vehicles but that does not mean that the price is worth it to folks that work for a living. Until or unless they understand that it's the customers that will make them or break them they will be out of business and someone else will take their place to make affordable vehicles.

[@inchranger]

@@webmastersof the pool of customers is smaller, the competition eventually weeds itself out.. and to be honest, there is an Ass for every seat. I get what you are implying, there's another component to this argument that's being unsaid at the moment but in truth, and again math doesnt lie. if the manpower to build/create a product costs $XX.xx per hour to purchase, the cost of manufacturing and materials because EVERYONE wants $XX.xx per hr too... will certainly have a cost of R&D, manufacturing, production, sales, servicing & repair, and eventually that rinses and repeats. if that cost is $80k and as a manufacture I want to make my dealers 4% *, I need to set that MSRP so that between MSRP and Invoice even if my dealer has to practically give the car away at Invoice, they can still make 4% ($3200) if they have to lose their shorts. The information is a bit old by now, but in the 2012-2015 time frame Almost all dealerships made an average of 3-4% on invoice still, with the exception of Porsche at 6% profit wise. The most funny thing is, at that time a lot of dealers were competing against Carmax, who made a whopping average of 13% per copy (sale) and people would get all cocky thinking they rolled their Carmax sales person and stole the deal.. ridiculously ignorant. regardless, dealers will still sell some cars, albeit to a small privileged few, which if you haven't noticed, most Blue States are all for you not having a vehicle to get around in anymore, same with the WEF and UN.. "You will own nothing and be happy" they say.. there will be select people as buyers and sellers that will ride that wave as long as it stays alive until it doesnt and the new thing in Tech is the age. Same as it was when people walked everywhere, to horseback, to cars, to planes and ships.. NO ONE cares if you can afford to buy a vehicle TBH.. because behind you are a 1000 other people who think they can and theres a good chance 380 of them can.. as a dealership if i can sell on average 160 cars a month, cut my overhead and losses and turn a profit with a skeleton crew and be profitable.. i would be selling cars longer than you think. Thats not what I do, im just telling you as an insider in the Automotive industry from the plant level to the sale floor and the aftermarket accessories business, in my 38years, Ive seen a lot more than most. “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” ― George Carlin

[@inchranger]

@@webmastersof And my second question for you is, HOW do you arrive at the notion that a $80k vehicle is ONLY worth $30-40k? Where do you get those numbers from? IF AI and robots in the next 10 years were to replace 46% of the workforce by 2035-2040 as some predict.. WHO do you think is going to be selling vehicles and or even buying vehicles? think back a hundred years what people were doing. then go back another 100 years.. You seeing whats been yet?

[@Chris-jm4zk]

Raise MSRP on a truck from 35k to 65 and then “discount it 7. Not going to work…..

[@digit4455]

yep

[@TheEqualizer-3.2.1.]

Exactly!

[@darrelldoty7757]

Waiting on them to figure out that we are not stupid

[@Harlemworldboy]

Exactly

[@theboz8161]

The reason payments were half what they are now is the vehicles used to cost half what they do know. We don't want discounts, we demand drastic price reductions; or they can watch cars rust.

[@lot2196]

Nothing is crashing. They will never go back to reasonably priced vehicles. They will crush the unsold inventory and close as many factories and dealerships as needed.

[@RJMaker]

This!

[@adamhatcher6620]

Well so be it let's see it

[@glennbeadshaw727]

You will see it just keep watching

[@patton3338]

You should go check any of their stocks and realize the degree of schmuck you sound like. They are literally banking on morons accepting it, but they've got 1-2 years before these companies are at serious risk of going under completely. If they dont lower prices, then I'll say good riddance. Get that price gouging garbage outta here, the CEO doesn't need another yacht.

[@roguesovereignrogue9124]

Correct

[@BabyJesus440]

Not only are prices and payments too high, but the quality is not there anymore. You are buying a new car knowing that more than likely there will be a recall on it

[@Beanerds]

We are the same with our base Nissan XTrail 1999 with zero tech , 167k and still going strong , I do all maintaince and services myself so I know the car well inside and out .

[@inchranger]

Recalls are not always bad news or broken things. Many times its a better design or a design revision to avoid a situation, and most of them aren't even safety related. You're worried about misc uncertainty wasting energy

[@wuseling]

I once was proud of our "german made cars" - I'm ashamed now.

[@wuseling]

I once was proud of our "german made cars" - I'm ashamed now

[@Rxch2od]

I love riding around in my 2007 Honda accord no payments 😂😂

[@kitsune303]

Happiness is a paid off vehicle. 😎

[@plutodestroyer12]

no payments on a car is one of the best financial options you can possibly make. i wish for of my fellow Americans understood this. they're asking for significantly more money for their products with absolutely downright disrespectful rates. whoever is willingly accepting of that for greedy corporations needs a head exam. our dollar is worth more than bs products with downhill quality. enough.

[@eljefe4473]

That car will run forever. Good purchase.

[@jean-louislalonde6070]

Same here! My 2006 Toyota Yaris is all paid for, cheap on gas with a manual tranny and fun to drive.

[@LeeW7233]

I know that's right. 👍🏽

[@BuckRogers2000]

My hope is that consumers save their money and allow dealers and banks to sweat...for a change.

[@johngoodman9380]

Discounting over price vehicles is not really discounting. I believe the dealers are just feeling out the public to see what they can afford or willing to pay. Still over priced.

[@jhonwayne1003]

20k more and people may show interest

[@Obeserundown]

It’s like when you go to Safeway and prices are 50% over other stores then they go on sale for more than other stores.

[@coffeensteak]

It feels like 2008 timeframe all over again. No bail outs

[@Whiskey61]

Its honestly insane how obvious it is. There is this giant wave coming and everyone is just ignoring it. We never took the pain from the Covid shutdown and that is going to combine with what is coming now. I see us going more into a depression type thing than recession.

[@darrellh4259]

Maybe Trump will let them fail

[@mariejane1567]

Yes this is the free market they all wanted!!

[@bjb7587]

Cars ain't homes. Big difference in so many ways, particularly prices. House prices have spiked in the past few years, but they haven't dropped. Investment banks are buying them up and turning them into rentals. It's different than 2008, but the end result will be the same. The rest of us will pay.

[@darrellh4259]

@@bjb7587 home prices fell 8% in the past 3 months in my neighborhood

[@kitsune303]

I hope new car dealers throw nice birthday parties for all those $80K Jeeps and $90K trucks. So glad to have a paid off good running vehicle. I can't believe the prices and the payments people are dealing with.

[@sureberferber9101]

Maybe the car biz should stop trying to FK all of it's customers by expecting $60-100K... for $35K cars?

[@jimclarence5441]

You may have a point. But consumers are to blame too. Once they got use to SUVs, big SUVs, pickup trucks, all wheel drive, they can't go back to something as modest a practical Corolla, Civic or even a Camry. Unnecessary big vehicles are now the American norm.

[@wuseling]

.... who needs an IT-Frontend with BS-Addons to drive to the next mall? (sorry, there are so many malls closing now, you have to drive some more miles )

[@wuseling]

​@@jimclarence5441 Good marketing ensures that you buy any crap to be happy

[@TheMamonti1]

even 50k is a stretch for most families today

[@Antares_451]

A 2002 Toyota Sequoia msrp was 52k. Plenty of cheap cars out there for ppl not making 40k.

[@HermannTheGreat]

30k

[@eaglechopper]

@@Antares_451 a kia that doesnt do 200K miles with blown engines often, or nissan with shit CVTs under 100k miles ? no thxt LOL.

[@Vosmalus]

I don't care for any dealership, imo most of them are crooks. Also, any new car you buy now is the worst made pos ever.

[@asajayunknown6290]

I'd say $30k off might start moving the metal. MSRPs are a joke.

[@KakistocracySurvivor]

60k for a Ford Bronco is 40% overpriced. Still not a good deal!

[@oldbloke204]

Do you really think that making up numbers is a good argument?

[@jonnyincognito899]

They don't want us to drive. This isn't an accident.

[@kylegallant3423]

These greedy car companies should be investigated for price fixing !!!!

[@PlumbBob-FGX]

That Toyota Tacoma with 212,000 miles for $20k. In kilometres that equates to 339,000 kms. In Australia that's a Red flag.

[@snowscout1018]

The used lot's are not immune either, all the one's around me are filled to the brim with used vehicles. Even cutting prices in the used market they can't get banks to even finance the loan so cash is king again. Noone wants to pay 500 a month for 96 months for a new truck. That's INSANE...and those that already did it are already getting their vehicles repo'd because it's better than being stuck in that horrific loan payment.

[@patrickmichael8655]

50 grand for a truck that’s crazy

[@plutodestroyer12]

anything north of $50k is unaffordable to the middle class and those willing to make that stretch are downright insane for a material product that brings no actual benefit to ones life unless youre making money with said product.

[@jbird6048]

Shit the average truck price is $68k and they go north of 100k!

[@pokedope534]

Crazy. I feel as if that's on the cheap end too.

[@plutodestroyer12]

@@pokedope534 $50k being cheap is exactly why we have a repo crisis on our hands. but idiots will keep buying and putting themselves in financial hell

[@tomboone201]

50 k isn't cheap, not for a product that has "life expectancy" built in .. manufacturer don't want 15 /20 year old trucks on the road ..8 to 10 yr max

[@ronaldkulas5748]

I looked at a 2006 Tacoma this past week with 135K miles. The dealer wanted 17K, and the Carfax revealed an accident. High book is under 15k. Thanks for your segment on used vehicles.

[@WithinandThroughout]

I'm literally dealing with the same thing. Tacoma's that are almost 10 years old are retailing for just almost new at 150k miles. Wait if you can, new year is going to be the best bet Imo. Just before these used vehicles are going to start to really increase in demand.

[@matt6984]

Oh, the used market is crazy. I was looking at a 2023 frontier with 15,000 mi on it and they want 5 grand less then a new one like wtf this shit isn't made of gold

[@larrynotuom3232]

They need to get the prices back to normal. 35000 and under they'll sell a bunch.

[@matt6984]

The problem is every vehicle is $10,000 more than it should be

[@tbam994]

This statement makes more sense than some others that claim 25,000.

[@Ronald-dc6me]

On used,new 35k over real price

[@williamcurry6412]

Am I the only one that sees these thumbnails and be like “ he always say this “ but car prices are still high. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@corvettemode1556]

If you want to cry about it then you can choose not to watch

[@dannymora9516]

This is crazy I feel like Brandon is listening to my comments and delivering! I asked for a "it's over" video and He delivered! Thank You for posting these! I hope to see more it's over or it's done videos soon!

[@orlandoalessandrini2505]

Prices are still hideous

[@billeidaho871]

Nissan should have dropped the CV transmissions a long time ago, no one that researches NISSAN CVT wouldn't touch one with a 10 foot pole! I have a 2021 Frontier, it has been a great truck, trouble free for over 26,000 miles and going strong!

[@terrytsandilis9962]

I’m still waiting for the crash of the car market in 2024, that he has been pontificating for the past 18 months….

[@rockypalmquist7288]

Right

[@17cmmittlererminenwerfer81]

>$50K for a Jeep; that I cannot understand.

[@boatbound3300]

40 years ago i could buy a 1984 Chevy Chevette for the same price as a Big Mac in 2024

[@glennbeadshaw727]

Yep actually I think I could buy two shirts and a Chevette

[@gigi-dp5wh]

😂😂😂👍👍👍

[@scottlavoie5405]

🤣

[@neccron9956]

Do not forget about the hidden charge that the Dealers add when you go over the contracts, it is called "Document Fee", which is a fancy way to say "the charge to write/process your paperwork:. One of my local Dealers (Honda) charges 600.00 to do 15 minutes of paperwork.

[@CaptainJimNoss]

If they charge a Doc Fee you tell them they deduct that off the price of the vehicle. You still pay the doc fee but it was subtracted. That usually shuts them up or you walk and report them to the FTC. Even mention FTC to them related to Doc fees and they buckle.

[@kaddiddlehopper]

When every domestic automaker announced they were getting out of the economy car market, everyone with any sense saw this coming. Greed makes people do stupid things. Heck, maybe they should have cancelled every vehicle line except for one that asks for 50 billion dollars retail. I'm sure those living in lala land would have salivated at that prospect.

[@tomboone201]

Hell yes .. anyone who's old enough has seen all this before.. history just repeats it's self ..over & over again

[@terencejay8845]

The trucks have just become Huge. Beasts. If they brought out a decent small retro-style pick-up, they'd be selling like hot cakes. Smaller engines, like Europeans, great MPG, far less computerisation.

[@tamborineman000]

The coercive mandates were a God send for my finances... I sold my million dollar house paid off my half million dollar mortgage and bought a cheaper home cash... sold my gorgeous V8 car and motorbike to help pay for my new home and I'm now debt free (don't even have credit cards) driving around in a "boring" low mileage Toyota Camry from 2005... Thank God for my decision to not consume that product they were pushing... being debt free is true freedom 🙏🙏 on paper my life seems like it went backwards with a less "desirable" address and car but in practice my life has been transformed for the better 💪💪

[@kongaceaf]

Man I live In Salisbury I wish I could have caught you on the lot to hear some of this in person! Keep the information coming!

[@michaellalanae7228]

I've never paid more than 10 k for a car and never will . I'll walk first.

[@tedwiley2181]

I just bought a 2011 Toyota Sienna for my wife today. Paid cash. It was clean and well maintained. It will last her several years. We decided a long time ago that if we could not pay for the car, we would not buy it. Car payments are a curse and drain on your life.

[@jamesdiyhomestead8263]

I just bought a 2010 Lexus RX 450H one owner, no accidents and almost mint condition with only 109k miles with ALL service records at the Lexus dealership for $12,000. I am not going to need to buy another car for a very long time. No way was I going to pay 30k or more for a new car. They can keep the overpriced new junk.

[@Whiskey61]

That was a $500 car.

[@jamesdiyhomestead8263]

@@Whiskey61 what? That makes no sense

[@_DB.COOPER]

New dealerships are being built in my town of 35,000 people. They didn’t get the memo obviously.

[@PlumbBob-FGX]

Probably a good time to trim CEOs salaries. No one is worth 30mil a year.

[@edshrewsberry2512]

Don’t fall for these fake sales! Stay out of the car market until prices drop a lot more than 10-15 percent!

[@fredhenry9660]

2018 Honda CRV LX base model, no useless addon crap. Base. Love it. Bought new. 39, 700 now. Runs smoothly, no issues. No turbo scam crap.

[@jimmyjoseph51]

Here in the Midwest I do not see prices coming down at all in fact for used cars they are steady or increasing.

[@TexasRoadRanger]

I think if prices went back to 2018 and 2019, the Broncos and Wranglers would disappear within a month... I would buy tomorrow if prices went back to normal (-60% of todays delusional prices)

[@Cakebattered]

Don't expect any real discounts on 2024-2025 model years until 2026 models arrive. The bulk of the 2023-2024 models will go to auction before Dealers heavily discount them for consumers.

[@daved7024]

The main problem is those vehicles are unreliable and overpriced. Consumers are quality conscience now. Toyota sales are strong except for Tundras with the 4cyl. Toyota better be careful with their quality stop making them in Mexico.

[@kclefthanded427]

I still got a Mexican made 2011 Nissan Versa with a 4-speed automatic and 255k miles. Still runs great but things are starting to fall off. They make throw-away cars for the short-term

[@ookookook]

They're raising prices though......

[@BLACK_BY_POPULAR_DEMAND]

Yup raise prices, and cut production the companies will make more money that does not factor in raising part prices.

[@tongpopyro2691]

all the automatic safety and automatic driving in all the new cars have to have a small factor in the rise in car prices too. i hate all that extra stuff, heck give me a manual transnission

[@jimclarence5441]

I like automatics but geez can't we go to knobs on AC and radios. The added computer "helpers" are expensive nonsense.

[@flash521]

Bronco. 67K still overpriced.

[@---fk1ct]

I'd like one. But no special editions and remove 90% of electronic tech from it and I will pay 37k for it.

[@josephkelleher8820]

Cars are way overpriced and you would need at least 20% off MSRP with no add ons to make them half way affordable. Probably more than a 20% discount off MSRP to make trucks affordable.

[@ronald5728]

Yes. $8k discount is not enough for a Jeep.

[@adamhatcher6620]

Half off would make them affordable

[@russell3380]

They aren't crying nearly loud enough yet. Even if I need ear plugs, I have the money and I am keeping it. Come ON I know you can scream louder you shysters.

[@theopticsarehigh]

I’m waiting til they practically give me whatever I want. It’s funny when I have the money they need.

[@michaelhansen6977]

Honestly, these dealers charged 10K over MSRP and screwed customers over because they could. Now they can't sell anything and I won't co sider buying until they are $10k below MSRP and no I won't go for a 2 year old lot rotted vehicle.

[@ronsteitz4535]

Everyone that wanted a Bronco bought one at inflated mark ups. Now buyers are underwater on their loans and re screwed.🤨

[@jamesdallas1493]

Bring back the Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit and Chev Spark.

[@anthonylarson7919]

until they cut those prices in half, they can keep em

[@Antares_451]

Recently (November 2) a deer decided he wanted to end his life an jumping in front of my truck (2019 Tundra 1794 CM 4x4).. It happened about 200feet feom my neighborhood.. Anywhoo. Minimal damage but went to the dealership to entertain a trade/sale. Lol, They wanted 79k for TTV6 hybrid Tundra 1794 😂😂.. I got my truck back yesterday and definitely happy i didn't trade because i like the V8, the reliability and the fact i don't have a payment.. 😂.. No new gas vehicles for me.

[@michaeltipton5500]

No 4 door cars. Not interested and I don't want to waste my time negotiating. Just give me your best price.

[@richdiana3663]

There will be fewer manufacturers coming soon. A tsunami of unaffordable vehicles are crashing against our debt Ponzi system. Tough times are arriving.

[@dustincollins16]

Mount airy cdrj has 2 gladiators currently marked down $16000 off msrp and still havnt sold them as of last night. Nor anything eles. Nothi g has moved on thier lot pretty much all year.

[@GOOSEMON2007]

All he does is rip on CARMAX 90% of the time and all others the rest. Yeah, all dealerships do suck but telling week after week that they do and soon they will all be broke doesn’t really do much. He Midas well just tell us instead of hint where his car lot is, geez.

[@edisonpomalesjr7245]

These dealers need to reach really deep down. To pull the low low low lever. On these prices.

[@vanessajones3508]

Nobody with any good sense is going to pay all that money for those vehicles. People have to pay their rent and pay their mortgages.

[@bryanspayde5681]

Bronco. I’d give 10k new for one …

[@christiancarino4931]

People can’t even buy groceries right now, u think people can buy a car

[@Ody-up6kg]

Sort of like a retailer who increases the prices by 40%, then has a 30% off sale. The reality is, what they are selling is still overpriced.

[@Karl51729]

2025 is finally the year, huh😂

[@SaintThomas410]

Can you make a video on how to negotiate a good deal?

[@loufher284]

$7,000 OFF a vehicle which was overprced is still to little....to late.. Nobody has good credit anymore. Nobody can afford car loans anymore... It's all done.

[@bobolson5086]

I'll tell you right now bro the car markets have still not learned their lesson that Toyota truck that has 200 + 1,000 Mi on it should literally be about 8,500 to 9500 bucks that is it

[@sgtcrab2569]

When they are starting to drop prices....just WAIT. They will panic eventually! Imagine the interest (floor plan) costs!

[@brokeboy87]

Nissan management would probably like to help out their dealerships, but they seem to be broke.

[@WiltedDaisyNurse]

Most of these vehicles been rotting in dealer's lot for more than 2years. Prices should have been cut in half by now. The only person i saw driving a brand new car is my coworker who got a $1/hr raise. 😂

[@loufaiella3354]

lot rot!! every one will need a new battery and tires when it finally sells!! The oldest trick.... they overprice used cars and then say for a little more you can get a new one. LOL

[@crlaw75]

Manufacturers and dealers screwed over customers. We simply walk away, no matter how much the discount is, especially when prices of items have gone through the roof.

[@jokeassasin7733]

I've been wanting one of the 2 door Broncos or Wranglers, but I can't justify buying a new car that I would rarely drive. They also have reached a price point that is absurd for a vehicle that is designed to be driven off road. My 10 year old Explorer has under 50k miles.

[@thomasmixson7064]

Several yrs ago, I learned Mike had sold off all his dealerships except for the Ford dealership & his wife kept her Honda shop. Stunned was my reaction! I knew Mike well. He had accrued the equivalent of several large fortunes, flew around in private planes, and loved making more and more $$$$$. as few do other than car dealers. It's like a prospector hitting a rich streak of gold! There's no stopping 'em! That was more han 5 yrs ago, but I knew as soon as he told me over lunch one day he'd sold out of the car business..I knew he knew something was coming in the car business, and he wanted NO PART OF IT!!!

[@JoeKubinec]

Thank you for sharing that story. It's anecdotal, but supports the narrative for sure.

[@stephenspain9167]

actually $7k to $10k off a SV 4WD Pathfinder is a pretty good deal

[@ppumpkin3282]

I'm got a mini-bike. Leaving my car home for when I really need a car.

[@JoeKubinec]

Yeah... I've gone to an e-bike... takes the 31 mile round trip commute off of my car... over 14,000 miles to-date... Did it more for exercise than keeping miles off the vehicle but that's an added upside to me.

[@swsexton1829]

As Dwight Manfreddie says CASH IS KING! In September I bought my neighbors 2010 Camry LE 93,000 miles in like new condition for $5,000😊 he bought it new and they had stopped him from driving……..

[@jimmydickson8854]

I’m jus keep fixing my older truck up. Wreckers are doing ok ,can’t afford a new one ,old jimmy

[@TheGuyMullins]

"PLUS" all the cars and trucks made the past five years are PURE JUNK!

[@tpgsoldier]

Tesla is on pace to sell as many cars this year as they did in 2023, with higher margins.

[@JoeKubinec]

I think this is a sign of the split economy, where there is a sector with lots of silly money and then there is everybody else. Anyone I know with a Tesla makes big bucks. A Tesla is a luxury buy imo because the use-case for owning an EV is so limited.

[@xilbus]

My 2019 f150 xlt was 48k. A 2024 xlt is 72k at my local dealer. Covid prices should have gone down. Quality is still shit so why are they so much more now ?

[@Chief_5]

Manufacturers listened to customers about dealerships adding additional dealership markups, so they just added extra markups into the MSRP!

[@digit4455]

If the price is right the car sells, if the car doesn't sell the price is not right

[@WithinandThroughout]

It's done, the lots will rot.

[@2GoodLookin]

So what is the MASSIVE change?

[@150DT]

It still cost too much even with the discounts.

[@mechanicg3611]

2018 tundra 128k going strong, forget getting a new vehicle until it’s 60% off 😅

[@loudellerman1670]

Bought a 2018 GMC Canyon SLE $21,500 12/23 V6 80K mi…Used Caredge strategy !!! Thanks Ray and Zach, and to Brandon to an extent …

[@douglove934]

I live in Huntington Beach Ca. Raptor’s 50k over msrp lol

[@WTF-sh4is]

I live in Central California. Same thing. Absolutely hilarious 😂

[@JoeKubinec]

Is your area super-wealthy? Or do the dealerships in your area have really deep pockets or sit on very high dollar land? Just curious.

[@1BigDaDo]

02 Honda Accord here with 267k miles did the water pump and timing chain at 175k its the 3.0 6cyl vtech still runs strong as hell and original tranny still good no issues ! Paid 2400 for got it in 2018 !

[@josephshultz6726]

01 accord 295k, fixed oil leaks, running well, keep it goin

[@tyangchizzle]

If only people would stop buying cars with money they don't have, dealerships would start lowering prices. Their strategy to lower production and increase prices is ridiculous and I hope they fail miserably. Reducing production isn't all of a sudden going to give customers more $ to spend. It sucks b/c so many ppl out there desire brand new cars and therefore, purchase brand new cars at dealership marked up prices b/c the stealerships were able to trick customers into thinking they can afford the expensive cars, when in reality, they can't afford them.

[@Darkseidx]

Ladies and gentlemen, learn to fix your vehicles.

[@panamafloyd1469]

I wouldn't buy a '23, even if it was "new". Been sitting for two years? Y'all know what happens to vehicles when they sit.

[@Fldavestone]

As we have said,prices are still not close to sane. No thanks. Add to that insurance,registration,taxes,interest rates.

[@eyeofchorus6313]

I wouldn't buy a new vehicle if they paid me to but for those who would, wait til there's blood in the streets.

[@tomm5766]

Did Bozo just say that a car that should be price around $27k, which now has a price of $60k, with a discount of $6-7k is reasonable and we should consider it?