Propane vs. butane

[@asbestosfiber]

"My dad says that butane is a bastard gas" -Bobby Hill

[@clkindred]

Propane is cheaper, the butane is more compact. Until I tested the stove with butane I did not know witch one would be cheaper in usage, meaning if butane boiled water faster than propane, it might make up for some of the cost difference. I knew going in that propane is a better fuel, but I wanted to know by how much. Thanks for the comment!

[@bicanoo_magic3452]

If you haven't figured it by now. Butane is waaay hotter than Propane. So its a smaller cylinder and you use less of it. It's also safer as it is lighter than air. LPG is heavier so it gathers on the floor. (Dangerous)

[@rcstuff7718]

@@bicanoo_magic3452 no propane burns hotter than butane look it up

[@rcstuff7718]

@@bicanoo_magic3452 about 1000f degree difference

[@ellenorbjornsdottir1166]

My dad told me methane is the only true gasfuel.

[@Cypeq]

nothing like using outdoor stove at full blast near cardboard box.

[@hothmandon]

Tom Anderson & Hank Hill Aprooved.

[@condor5635]

Great video! I always put the flame first and then turn on the gas

[@anthonyperkins7556]

Butane is better suited to warmer temperatures and countries above 5c 41f in places like Mediterranean Sea locations and warmer parts of the world like The Middle East Africa and Asia because it will fail to function below 5c and can even stop working. Benefits of butane gas are quicker heat up time, slightly higher heat output than propane and clean burning. Butane can, however be used quite safely indoors with mobile cabinet heaters and mobile living flame heaters such as we have in the United Kingdom and it can also be safely used indoors to fuel hobs ovens and cookers following the correct conversion of the appliances to butane and propane operation using the LPG jets supplied with the appliances first or if the appliances are LPG ready to connect straight to a suitable supply. NB do not attempt to use natural gas appliances with butane / propane cylinders without the proper conversion to this fuel first for two reasons, firstly the pressures between LPG and Natural Gas are entirely different, and secondly the performance would be poorer ie yellow tipping of the flames and sooting of oven walls, kettles, pans and utensils. Propane works down to -45c and is more suited generally because of this advantage hence why it finds favour in colder international countries like Canada Greenland Russia America and Scandinavia. It also works satisfactorily on many appliances but is contained in cylinders at a much higher pressure than butane and because of this, they should NEVER be stored indoors, however it is suited to permanent outdoor installation where it can feed fixed appliances in the home such as cookers hobs ovens / living flame, flueless and conventional radiant fires, hot water systems plus central heating using a 47 kg twin pack propane cylinder installation and changeover valve or as many propane cylinders as you may require with a multi changeover valve system. Flueless LPG fires don't require a chimney as the combustion products are fed straight through a catalytic converter transforming them to safe harmless byproducts which are safe, which, as long as the room has adequate natural ventilation circulation, as most living rooms do around doors and windows, then there's no worries and another incredible thing is that flueless LPG fires emit more of the heat into the room as they don't need a chimney and get incredibly warm and because of this fact, you cannot safely install a flat panel TV directly above one of these fires because of the heat emitted causing possible melting and damage to the set.

[@ellenorbjornsdottir1166]

You're that guy who doesn't know jack about gas fuels and demonstrated so when saying something you speak of doing in this very comment (rejetting your stove for HD5 LPG or for methane) was dangerous. Hypocrite.

[@spartannn3002]

Forgot one thing should have weighed each cylinder BEFORE and AFTER test to see how much each one uses. Cause if one uses LESS than the other than you would have a better test result

[@clkindred]

Propane is slightly better than butane at room temp but propane is way better than butane at cool temps.

[@nickhersheys2706]

As a camper, butane is much lighter to carry than propane. Cost wise propane is 20 times cheaper than butane. I'd personally carry a 16 oz. (2 pound total weight including canister) propane and cook for a week (5 hours) at $2.50 a canister. V/s $25 for 8 oz of butane that will last for an hour.

[@clkindred]

Nick Hersheys Yep, if you plan on needing to cook many meals, propane is the way to go, it might also be lighter to carry the green propane tank if it takes three or four butane canisters to match it's cooking power. Who charges $25 for 8oz of butane though? That's VERY expensive!

[@nickhersheys2706]

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[@nickhersheys2706]

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[@briancunningham5584]

Nick Hersheys I want to be boiling and cooking at higher altitudes and colder temperatures than butane will allow. The mixed types burn off the propane first then comes the butane of the mix. All three have identical BTU/ounce of fuel. Determine where you're going, how much weight you are willing to load and how much you are willing to spend. Then comes the stove ....

[@jamesaritchie1]

You need to find a new market for butane. I pay four dollars for four 8.8 ounce cans of pure butane. That's cheaper than I can get propane anywhere.

[@nickhersheys2706]

Update: As a backpacker decided to go for alcohol burning stove. Trangia 25-8 Ultralight Hard Anodized Stove Kit. Hope that helps someone who is same as in my situation. Peace and happy camping :)

[@clkindred]

Nick Hersheys Alcohol is awesome for weight and simplicity, if it gets real cold, or windy that is what makes a propane stove shine.

[@creagle26]

Butane is actually superior to propane from an energy stand point. So this video is the opposite of what should be expected.

[@dave14410]

You are right. butane: 52.2 Megajoules/gram. propane: 50.3 kilojoules/gram. (wikipedia) I guess he is using more propane in the same amount of time.

[@greg77389]

@@dave14410 That difference is negligible though. Only reasons to use butane over propane is cost (assuming it's cheaper) and portability due to the tanks being lighter, but only in warm weather since you can't use butane in the cold. For household usage and trips in the mountains/cold environments, propane is the logical choice. Propane also is better for long term storage.

[@PK-xe6sm]

Buthane is way cheaper, actually. At least in my part of the world. The only reason for using propane over buthane is that it boils at about -40 degrees Celsius(compared to -2 when using buthane), so you can use it in the mountains.

[@jamesaritchie1]

Butane is cheaper everywhere, if you aren't buy one ounce containers. There are pretty easy ways of using butane at even the coldest temperatures. It's not the air temp that matters, it's the canister temp.

[@boogerking7411]

How much does butane cost compared to propane?

[@thebluelazor234]

propane and propane accesories

[@clkindred]

***** Taste the meat, not the heat.

[@ThatHungryAfricanChild]

Yep.

[@willbarber8707]

Hank R. Hill yep

[@nickhersheys2706]

Quick note: Butane canisters are not really light either. I guess butane canisters are aluminum vs the heavier propane metal (iron something) canister. A propane canister weighs twice as much as the net propane in it. A butane canister weighs one and half times the net butane in it. For example, a 16 oz (1 pound) propane weighs 2 pounds. A 16 oz (1 pound) butane weighs 1.5 pounds. So the weight (as a backpacker myself) is out of the question. Considering the cost factor, Propane is the winner !

[@boogerking7411]

Propane's pressure is 4x than butane so it has thicker can to contain the pressure

[@jamesaritchie1]

By itself, boil time is one of the more meaningless stats. Boil time alone doesn't tell you how much fuel you're using, and that matters more than how long it takes to boil the water. Also, not everyone is content with only eating meals you make with boiling water. I'm not. I like to cook meals, and eat real food that isn't freeze dried. Butane burners are usually much better for this because of their design, but they boil water slower for the same reason.

[@bicanoo_magic3452]

That's not a stove.. its a blast furnace.. that would melt any aluminium pan and probably warp a Stainless steel one.... insane test!!

[@stationvictormike3415]

They boil at different Temps. Never good to use butane in really cold weather unless U can warm the can up to produce the vapor. I used to to deliver and do bottle dock for Ferrel gas in Santa Fe and Espanola area 2000 - 2003. Even repaired tanks.

[@atubeviewer4942]

wow, watching water boil is JUST as much fun as watching paint dry

[@evilgary747]

At Strickland Propane, Taste the meat, not the heat

[@clkindred]

When whipping down propane tanks remember this, head to feet, everything's neat, feat to head, everyone's dead.

[@flipsternip]

Gotta love king of the hill :P

[@evilgary747]

dang it Bobbeh!

[@stepbro4978]

Lol

[@Nahueldelasideas]

Butane Boling took 1:20 and LP took :1:10. Propane would be 14% faster to reach boiling.

[@dixy2k]

The weight is negligible if all your gear is transported by car. If you are backpacking however, you should choose the lighter one.

[@SMWSMW-qu3df]

In terms of all potential safety issues please give a detailed chart comparrison between propane and butane.

[@jamesaritchie1]

They're both perfectly safe. Backpackers use both every day.

[@boogerking7411]

Butane have 1/4 the pressure of propane so if you puncture the can, propane will make bigger damage

[@michaelpaulclay]

Where did you get the burner?!?! It’s perfect! Highly flexible output which we need!

[@alexlewarex4815]

Turn that stove upside down you've got a rocket

[@flyinbantito]

if you want more oomf out of a stove try running two in tubes to a y adapter and run oxygen and propane. you're going to need a pressure regulator for the oxygen though for safety sake.

[@Hewagej]

Helpful video Thank you so match for share that video

[@Jeffcrutchfield]

Nice! Is there a cost benefit one way or the other to doing this, or just shooting for versatility?

[@masonf7332]

Whoa, my dad says butane’s a bastard gas

[@lapicker1010]

You “think”?? Dude, it says right on the can, “Blended fuel”! And a couple of things you DIDN’T mention is that even though the propane canister is bigger and heavier, it holds a LOT more fuel, and it’s WAY less expensive.

[@cherriesandneedles7603]

Love the ipod! lol.

[@david_sdiego]

Waiting for that unclamped tube to pop off and light up the room.

[@عبدالعزيزالأحمد-ه8ش]

It's good test. How can I get stove like that you have!!

[@bladesmark1]

Propane works better in the cold than Butane because Propane stays in liquid form whereas Butane tends to solidify thats why Butane is used much more indoors. Butane is much cheaper than Propane, not sure if it is over in the US & here in the UK Butane comes in a blue cannister/tank where Propane comes in an orange/red cannister/tank.

[@clkindred]

mark stevenson I'd LOVE to find a bulk tank of butane here haha,

[@Izakokomarixyz]

Stevo 1971 I thought that the reason was that butane stays in liquid form in the freezing winter, whereas propane still boils below freezing temperatures...

[@Paul-mz6ss]

Ha Ha Ha - Butane solidifying, I love it. Butane freezes at -138 Degrees C. (Propane -188 Degrees C) You are confusing the freezing and boiling point of each of the liquids. The boiling points are... Butane -1 Degree C Propane -42 degrees C Boiling point is the temperature at which the vapor pressure of a liquid is equal to the pressure of the atmosphere on the liquid, equal to 100°C for water at sea level. (In layman's terms boiling point is the temperature where the liquid turns from a liquid to a gas). Also a liquid at high pressure has a higher boiling point than when that liquid is at atmospheric pressure. So this would also have to be taken into consideration.

[@MisterFizz]

Which burns cleaner? My experience is that butane leaves a lot more soot.

[@clkindred]

I found under good conditions they are both very clean. However the butane suffers from poor gas pressure when cold, resulting in the burner not working correctly, leaving a slightly dirtier flame.

[@anthonyperkins7556]

Butane is best suited to temperatures above 5c 41f because it becomes useless under 5c. If you are operating on butane at normal temperatures, there should be no soot. If you have soot issues in normal temperatures, the gas / air mix probably needs adjustment until there are predominantly blue flames.

[@Chuckmeister200]

thanks for the fun Vid. I'd like to see map gas in this just for interests sake !! All hardware bought gasses.

[@clkindred]

Thank you!

[@uni-byte]

Hmm a blow-torch right next to a carboard backdrop. Is it just me or does anyone else see possible difficulties here?

[@AmishGestapo]

Butane is a bastard gas,

[@kevinchamberlain7928]

Wha'ts the little valve called please?

[@leonardo1480]

Like the camping stove is it home made? if it is do you have a video of it any where?

[@clkindred]

+leonardo1480 Dang, Ive been slacking on my comments again! Yes the stove is homemade, if you go to my channel I have videos on it.

[@Holy-Terrorist]

Holy-Terrorist:>*=* Cool, of other idea, the fuel is more ecologic and diesel is more pollution. *=* Of the fuel is smaller alkane and diesel is longer alkane. *=* The steam cracking is a stuff for refining. I speak french and some english.

[@m4dh4dd3r]

I want to cook in my house when we have no electricity. Which fuel doesn't need a lot of ventilation? Or which one won't smell up my house? I have only used outdoor BBQ that run on propane. It seems like you have a lot more experience. Which would you recommend? I want to use it with my pressure cookers. Thank you so much for your help.

[@Newtsalad]

Cut straight to 7:30.

[@eddykrikorian]

Hi, where did you buy the burner from? thx

[@yorgyogi1]

I think there is a little less water in the propane test

[@benis3835]

butane is a bastard gas

[@justinbirkhofer7220]

Try this with one of those yellow cylinders of mapp pro. AKA MAPP gas replacement propylene

[@owendabanks]

anyone know what hose he uses to attach to the propane tank? whats it called?

[@clkindred]

I explained that part in detail in an old video of mine, you can watch it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqi2eYZsgtF8mqs

[@owendabanks]

thx bro, your the best

[@maliktillman882]

but can it melt steel beams ?

[@milyan360]

Steel fuel is your best choice to melt jet beams

[@andrewlorona7360]

Jet steel can also melt fuel beams

[@ellenorbjornsdottir1166]

yes

[@VikingRul3s]

funny test, good entertainment :) Butane is better, but needs more space/O2. I believe you would have gotten a different result had you raised the pot 2cm ;)

[@lapicker1010]

Nah, the simple and irrefutable fact is that propane does produce more BTUs than butane.

[@VikingRul3s]

@@lapicker1010 Nah, try using google the next time first.... 1 Gal. of Butane BTU 102,600 1 Gal. of Propane BTU 91,000 BTW air supply, nozzle, temperature of the gas and so on, plays a much larger role then BTU. But good try 🥱

[@lapicker1010]

Well, contrary to what I’ve heard many times from many sources, I stand corrected. Sorry to have incorrectly disputed you Viking.

[@222nightwolf]

Come on propane is a work mans gas, not a cooks gas.Hm you wield all day long with it .

[@richardpablop]

Hey, where did you get the regulators? Do you have any links or brand? Cheers

[@clkindred]

Richard Pablo For the propane it's a blowtorch valve. The butane is an airbrush adapter. I don't know the brand though.

[@franciscofranco5133]

I'm subscriber number 100 :D Nice video :)

[@Holy-Terrorist]

Holy-Terrorist:>*=* Cool, what is better, propane or butane?

[@clkindred]

Thanks! And congrats!

[@smallenginedude71]

use it on MAPP gas!

[@geez-hd6dn]

Wrong hose and no regulator ?

[@normrubio]

What burner is that

[@fifteenbyfive]

That doesn't look remotely dangerous

[@222nightwolf]

THis guy is stone cold crazy

[@inuyasha1389]

I sell popcorn and popcorn accsessories

[@0718kuhn]

SWEET!

[@kennethkustren9381]

Seriously ?? Menace to Society. Did you finish Grade 12 ?