Propeller of....PLANES?!

[@integza]

You have weirdly interesting ideas !

[@CaptainJohn]

Integza Yes very!

[@amazingdiyprojects]

Thanks, Love your work by the way. But hey, tomatoes aren't bad really, once you get to know them...;-D

[@integza]

@@amazingdiyprojects Would love to talk with you sometime 😁

[@Alexander_Sannikov]

this is an amazing format of video! please don't get discouraged by imagining what people might think, i certainly think that the idea is ingenious even if it does not work.

[@AtimatikArmy]

I love this highly innovative stuff, thank you sincerely for sharing with us!!

[@mattdavidsen5666]

Nice idea! I would recommend using a horizontal stabilizer on the wing. I’d think it will automatically correct out many of high frequency the pitch oscillations the wing appears to be fighting. (Based on DIY VTOL experience) looking forward to seeing more from this project!

[@amazingdiyprojects]

Thanks, a horizontal stabilizer is a feature on the next version :-)

[@ChrisLynas]

You don't have to have a rigid coupling between rotor hub and rotors for a helicopter: nearly all helicopters have flapping hinges, there's no moment transfer between hub and rotor just a pin joint. The only thing that holds rotors like this is lift and centripetal force. Were you talking about torsional rigidity? With that said using pitch trimmable aircraft as rotors sounds really interesting, the helicopter power system could be nearly 100% modular

[@MasterIvo]

Creative as always! good to see your work. I'm working in resonant impulse electricity research and recognise the stages of discovery. Such amazing work!

[@erickneece555]

Have you tried mounting counter weight to the arm, instead of on wire? I believe if you could combine this with some sort of motorized arm extender/retractor to adjust opposing weight to rpms, on the fly?

[@malakiblunt]

surly a fixed counter weight at the hub just like single bladed propellers use, would solve all the flailing counter weight / instability problems

[@ZoniesCoasters]

okay, so do that, but make it a big heavy steel blade and put it about waist height so you can crouch under it and draw the zombies in Ravenholm into it.

[@krazed0451]

This concept is terrifying... Keep up the great work!

[@Merqos]

You should move the propeller at the end of the wing. This way, the oscillating will go away, due to certifugal force. (The majority of weight is placed at the end)

[@krazed0451]

Having it on the inside edge has significant aerodynamic advantage due to the necessity to maintain less air movement in the decreased arc :-)

[@maincarolinaboatshop6723]

Well since your teaching everyone, its centrifugal not (certifugal)thats not a word.

[@Merqos]

@@maincarolinaboatshop6723 Haha, Mr. Big brain. It was just a misspell...

[@rayeaglenz]

Fantastic to see you again, sharing your ideas, and your thinking process, many thank yous :)

[@michaelprice3031]

Wow! your innovation never ceases to amaze! So cool dude!

[@olsonspeed]

Always interesting to see what you are building, keep experimenting.

[@ronnybe7994]

Long time no see 🖐 What happened to the floating car?

[@CraftedChannel]

Have you looked at control line speed? One wing. The notion of a central fuse here is of no conceivable value. Fuse should be at the tip of a single wing. At higher air speeds, the fuse can be shorter and have less wet area for lower parasitic drag. On your round the pole model, put the weight of the motor on the outside. You've got a complicated interaction because there are in essence yaw variable devices on either side. Love to see you turn it around with the motor on the outside. You are very creative and failure is a required ingredient in success.

[@CyclingSteve]

Kinda like an autonomous control-line plane, it looks so dangerous, I love it.

[@qs138v3]

Two videos in one week!!!!!

[@marc_frank]

the airplane propeller wing need an airplane propeller

[@gabedarrett1301]

What did you use to wrap the wings with?

[@MasboyRC]

Really cool !! You always have briliant idea sir. I love your VTOL plane 👍

[@CaptainJohn]

Ah it’s like those older planes, like they are on a line and they go in circles, you start the gas motor and you fly it around till it’s out of gas. Cant remember the name

[@CyclingSteve]

Control line plane.

[@CaptainJohn]

Green Steve ah yes! That’s it!

[@texasflysuperstar]

Interesting concept, it will be amazing to see how far you can get with this.

[@xyrzmxyzptlk1186]

Fascinating experiment. It was intriguing to see that you had some degree of success. Thank you for uploading your work. Here’s hoping a eureka moment is imminent in your experimentations.🛸

[@gabedarrett1301]

When the motors transition from vertical to horizontal flight while spinning, are there any problems with angular momentum and torque? Also, you can make it quieter (and maybe cheaper) if you use fewer motors and larger props

[@MichaelRyannz]

Probably will need to drop the wire and head to a back to a flat thin tensile length to get intial stability with pressure tubes linked to both models. Also the inner wing root would needs to be wider in chord to counteract the lower speed closer to your hub to get proportional lift. Each wing would have to automatically transfer balancing fluid back and forth to each side to get a well balanced system and probably could be done by pressure alone. Lots of work in this one. Next step would be would be motors top and bottom of your shaft for direction. Just a quick theory on what you have already done.. so far. Your certainly enthusiastic... so keep going and well done.

[@CNCAddict]

That's so fantastic, thanks for sharing!!!

[@toddanonymous5295]

It would be an interesting experiment that instead of cable connecting the wing to the hub, use a fiberglass rod similar to a fishing pole. It may improve stability from starting and increasing through low rpm's . Just a thought. I greatly admire your constructive and innovative mind.

[@Alexander_Sannikov]

it's like a propeller with a soft hub where angle of attack is controlled by aerodynamics instead of mechanics. i think it's ingenious.

[@ilSySTeMli]

What if you put a smaller propeller at the end of the wing ? it Might give some good results as for gyroscopic effect and pulling it away from the center of the poll ... The tension on the rope from the center could make it more stable (at least on one axis ) Great idea BTW Love your work !

[@Gainn]

You invented Decapitation Swingball.. I like.

[@danko6582]

It remains fairly efficient because not much of a propeller's thrust is made near the hub. The area near the hub is mostly about maintaining rigidity without adding too much drag.

[@doougle]

Succeed or fail, your type is is a credit to humanity.

[@RentalFloss]

Can't wait to see more! It's so inspiring!

[@ryanbruno4152]

Are you doing anymore gas turbine videos??? Loved making the concrete one!

[@VadimR4]

Try two tethers for the wing instead of just one cable. Seems like that would give a better chance to point in the correct direction. I'm thinking like higher end kites or even parachute.

[@petervespae-biketours593]

Great

[@erobwen]

You could be on to something. The first highly efficient glider helicopter! But it would need a lot of space, and stay clear from trees. Yaw control might be tricky though?

[@Leehensman]

I so love how your brain works, never give up buddy.

[@sohansunku1016]

Amazing!

[@zigavojska1672]

maybe you put the wing on telescopic antenna-like flexible hoses or pipes for more control of wing movement

[@cua2279]

Interesting nice video :)

[@danko6582]

I bet if you tensioned two cables in a cross above the fuselage from wingtip to wingtip, you could reduce flex on your long wing.

[@okgo8315]

You are a crazy genius.... love it keep up the good work👍🇬🇧

[@brsrc759]

Nice to see you back.

[@qs138v3]

Är det centrifugalkraften som kommer motverka vingen från att flyga högre än 90°?

[@zigavojska1672]

maybe you put hinges in the middle of wing and a joint with cordless controlled stepper motor for pitch control?

[@scarakus]

Still waiting to you to fly the manned drone up to 200 feet...

[@qwqeqrqtqz]

It should be possible to build a rotor where the blades are held in position by strings from the inside of the wing to the top of the pole and strings from the outer tip to the bottom of the pole forming a tetraheron. The wing would be forced into a fixed position if it is rotating fast enough. It might be possible to drive it by rotating the pole and eliminating the motor, flight controller and control surfaces on the wing

[@GiesbertNijhuis]

Yet another thing I have been thinking about as well. Great that you are really doing it! Looking forward to your discoveries. How about a long carbon fiber tube iso a wire?

[@rockyBalboa6699]

From all your videos i have noticed you have not added wheel base or a base stand like in helicopters. Propellers turning close to the ground produces ground effect and some times blow tiny rock particles which will damage the engine/propellers, cut the fuel lines or battery.. Ground effect and dust is the number one reason for crashes and damages to a VTOL aircrafts. Add some form of wheel base, it will probably help your aircrafts from crash landing.

[@TimHackettAustralia]

This is effectively flying a control-line model with RC

[@malakiblunt]

your worried about someone watching you do this🤣

[@amazingdiyprojects]

Haha, thankfully its VERY different live IRL vs post trauma via video! LOL!

[@chattonlad9382]

Love it.

[@sir_john_hammond]

Seems to me that the non-rigidity is in itself what would kill any application of this tech which requires any degree of reliability or safety, since even looking at it the wrong way would send ripples through it resulting in unrecoverable failure. But certainly interesting to see.

[@glennboyd939]

Maybe mount the motor outboard, and look at control line aircraft. Before RC, it's all U could use.

[@thelaneman]

Up next... a tire of cars! 😂

[@gabrielhacecosas]

Wcolby1 made a similar thing

[@zigavojska1672]

hello, if you are interested watch this old footage of autogiro like aircraft with rotor with flaps. What do you think about the design, what is this aircraft anyway? best regards from Slovenija. how do you finance your projects?

[@TheScottsawesomeart]

GLAD TO SEE U ARE DOING GOOD!

[@jbrownson]

Fascinating idea, thanks for sharing!

[@TheESS1]

Great setup! I have been thinking about this for some time myself, but have not have time to do prototyping as of yet. Would definitely subscribe to the channel. Have you tried to move the motor to the outer side of the wing? I tried to draw the forces, moments and derived forces from inertia some time back. I think you get two dimensional ocillation in the wing because the far side of the wing is not close coupled with the movement of the motor side of the wing. I think that moving the thrust to the far most part of the radii would stabilize the ocillation at low speed better, making the frame inherently more stable.

[@IteKLF]

Hmm. Would there be more lifting force if you mounted the wire closer to the centre of lift on the wing? Then the wing will be more flat onthe rotating disc when lift is applied to your vehicle.

[@andrejna]

You are amazing! The content is amazing you should you should find a marking guy to bring more views to your channel. It's a shame, only 15k views of this amazing channel. And more money, more fun, and more sophisticated projects. :P

[@Martinsp16]

This is amazing thought

[@adriancvz4784]

Some ideas you might consider: 1.- A retractable cable. It should make your initial and last rotations safer. Perhaps a 50kg+ Dog leash mechanism for both/N wings, also maybe the "flat cable" has less drag. (something like kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5-0Xp9qf82nrsk) 2.- Placing the tether not at the inner end of the wing, but slightly inside. This will tilt the wing by a few degrees, keeping the wing in tension, hopefully stabilizing the tether's tension with minimal thrust loss. Waiting for your next video!

[@bokusimondesu]

There would be a big chance/risk of flutter on a flat cable.

[@rudyvega3762]

Can you adjust the length of rope while rotating?

[@modus_ponens]

Hmm, two circling planes is maybe not that far fetched idea. If two independent planes are tied together, circling around each other, it maybe would be possible to make vertical takeoff without runway. The planes could detach in the air, and continue their flight independently. If this would be possible in any way, I bet it could find real world applications.

[@timurzarifov]

5:00 сразу видно, человек ни когда не строил кордовые модели, иначе знал бы, что мотор должен стоять на внешней стороне радиуса, а крыло внутри, т.е. расположение такое: центр вращения, потом крыло и замыкает это мотор со всем балластом. И тогда подъёмная сила от крыла будет натягивать трос, пытаясь наклониться в сторону балласта, т.е. в сторону противоположную от центра вращения.

[@Kart0nas]

Great video, waiting for the next one!

[@devarajan7961]

Plz tell me the price and volt of the battery

[@LSUtiger607]

Don't know the regulations in your part of the world but would be Super interesting to watch you design, build and test an eVTOL!

[@situbes.972]

Look at history of channel - he already did!!!

[@malakiblunt]

have you looked at tip jet helicopters ? im sure ive seen variations that used tip props too and helicopters that use controll surfaces on the blades - I know the reason was to produce a torqueless rotor,

[@situbes.972]

Its interesting idea. My question is when moving an overhead rotary aircraft forward you have one side of rotor have faster airflow over blade vs the orherside. (Example: a clockwise as from top to botton persceptive helicopter moving forward, the port side of rotor would have more airflow vs the starboard side) (almost like a pfactor on airplane).

[@maxpower700]

Maybe not wire but a solid piece?

[@locodefra]

También investiga y experimenta con la propulsión iónica

[@CUBETechie]

With solar panels would be interesting

[@locodefra]

Tremenda pérdida de tiempo,por qué no experimentas con los descubrimientos de Viktor grevennikof

[@erickneece555]

And it never comes in to fruition, than im sure you could sell these to NASA to train their astronauts in g-force simulation, 🤔

[@zyziux]

try attach wing from other end...

[@jarniskat]

thats how a heli works. but not with a string and proppeller

[@yelectric1893]

Advanced technology

[@777cayman]

Helicopter?

[@thecorbies]

Hi. It's completely obvious (to me anyway), that you have great desire, knowledge, experience and analytical capabilities in abundance, and whilst I am totally aware that today's familiar objects and systems have to be developed from seemingly 'crazy' beginnings, I'm afraid I can't help thinking that you're energies could be put to better use elsewhere. I mean, helicopters and tilt rotor aircraft are already pretty well established. The floating huge wheel vehicle has very limited visibility, and probably usefulness. The human carrying multi rotor seemed, in it's petrol engine version, to have very dubious capability. Having said all the above, please don't misunderstand me. I'm NOT trying to put you down, or discourage you. Far from it. I enjoy hearing your thought processes, and seeing your problem solving. It just seems a shame that your efforts don't evolve into things that have a definite use or purpose. I hope what I've said doesn't seem harsh, I'm an electro-mechanical engineer and I've had my share of ideas and 'inventions' over the years. We ALL have, I'm sure, but having the ability to judge what may be a less than efficient use of time, energy and money etc., is quite a valuable commodity too. Regards Mark in the UK

[@Daniel-qy6hw]

Do you have a Instagram?

[@coolshooo]

that would make you feel sick, very fast,

[@jamesturncliff5960]

You still need a tail of some kind

[@cougarten]

Reminds me very much of this 'windmill' kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGexiGOHmrB_kKM (both, the tricopter glider and airplanes as propellers)

[@kassenbon]

Very interesting. This could be very useful for a new project I am working on. I want to build a temporary antenna "mast" for my FPV needs (befinitiv.wordpress.com/wifibroadcast-analog-like-transmission-of-live-video-data/ ). A drone would be the simplest but efficiency is poor. This cannot be run tethered without going to insanely high voltages over the tether. A tethered plane is more efficient but would move the antenna mast quite a bit back and forth, so again not ideal. But your idea seems to be the perfect middle ground. I am still thinking whether rigid joints (carbon fiber rod) between wings might make things easier (momentum of wings should then roughly cancel out). Plus the start would be easier and you might get away with a passive system (no flight controller). In fact, it would be very similar to a giant propeller that is only active on the outer edge. The advantage would be that you would have very similar air speeds over the airfoil (in contrast to a regular propeller where you have speeds from 0-100%). This "propeller" could be powered directly instead of indirectly via propellers, so the efficiency would increase a bit, potentially. But the counter-momentum would then require a second pair of wings rotating in the opposite direction. That might speak for your approach of powering via propellers, where you are not having this problem. How do you advance with this project? I am very curious, obviously :)

[@bokusimondesu]

Det er i bund og grund en linie styret model. Du laver nogle ekstremt fede projekter.

[@WeBeGood06]

Are you trying to create thrust? First, a Cable only works in tension and cannot support moments, only tension forces. Second, a Wing only creates lift perpendicular to its surface. Third, you need to align the wing's lift with the cable tension. In your current configuration, zero lift can be transmitted down the cable as tension. Rotate your wing 90 degrees, so the lift creates tension in the cable. The cable tension should equal gyroscopic force + wing lift. Four, since the cable is parallel to the ground, no lift on the shaft is created. The cable is spinning in a plane. For "up-lift" the arc of the cable must be a cone, pulling up and out with centrifugal force and wing lift. So adding a rudder could do this, or Rotate the wind 45 degrees instead of 90 degrees in step three. Or some other angle that works. Great Video, thanks for sharing, can't wait to see your next video.