Prophecy Update on The War in Israel

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Mike Winger

Mike Winger

5 ай бұрын

I'm not saying we can't look at current events through the lens of biblical prophecy. We absolutely can. I am saying that we need to curb our excitement by making sure that our interpretations of Scripture are accurate and our application of those interpretations to current events is both clearly indicated from Scripture and not malleable to fit any time period we happen to be living in. It would also go a long way for prophecy people to admit when their views are conjecture.
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@robertzakaria8526
@robertzakaria8526 5 ай бұрын
As our pastor here in Trollhättan said "we do not belong to the planning committee but we belong to the welcome committee". come Jesus come
@kimadams2995
@kimadams2995 5 ай бұрын
Yes! LOVE that!
@philippbrogli779
@philippbrogli779 5 ай бұрын
What a funny city name. :D I also like that statement of that pastor.
@GradoniusTheWise
@GradoniusTheWise 5 ай бұрын
I am using this! I hope your pastor doesn't need royalties... 😅
@Sarahopal
@Sarahopal 5 ай бұрын
Perfectly said! Praise Jesus I don't have that to worry about 🙏❤️
@MO-bo2du
@MO-bo2du 5 ай бұрын
Amen 👏 🙌
@ImCarolB
@ImCarolB 5 ай бұрын
I'm over 70 and I've simplified my life considerably by paying very little attention to these things. I would advise young people to focus on what God has given us to do today. BTW, I was one of those little kids who practiced "duck and cover" at school.
@craigandlisachristensen7036
@craigandlisachristensen7036 5 ай бұрын
I have also followed this topic for decades and I am still very much looking forward to our Lord's coming. Jesus himself taught us to watch for we do not know the day or the hour as he will come like a thief in the night. This should encourage us toward living holy and godly lives. I think we need to be careful we don't subscribe to 2 Peter 3:3 -4 but we ought to live as one pastor says with 2 feet one the ground and our eye on the sky.
@Topher3088
@Topher3088 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@W_CPTchildren have always been blown up since the invention of gun powder. Most nations didn’t have the courtesy of dropping leaflets instructing the civilians to vacate the area. Especially when the US dropped fat man, little boy, firebombed Tokyo and leveled Dresden to the ground. Kinda reminds me of Sodom and Gomorrah the level of destruction we rendered just in the last century alone. During the Cold War and the mass production of ICBMs all of the major cities on the planet almost got deleted. I’d say the duck and cover generation might be able to teach us a thing or two about chilling out and not worrying about every global conflict that most people can’t locate on a map anyway. Be at peace ✌️ 😅
@vickiejones8015
@vickiejones8015 5 ай бұрын
I too was one of those children. It was part of the times back then. It was a little scary but I didn't fully understand it. I wish things today were as simple as those times, back then.
@eltonron1558
@eltonron1558 5 ай бұрын
​@craigandlisachristensen7036 This should encourage us to live holy, godly lives. So, who in Christianity observes the sanctified holy Sabbath, other than some Jews and the ones mocked for being a cult? Humanity, and Christianity only get salvation. God loving Christianity get blessed, and sainthood. Rev. 12:17, 14:12, 22:14. It's what Christianity gets for ignoring Mt. 4:4, 6:33. From the beginning, it's not my fault.
@JmSmith751
@JmSmith751 5 ай бұрын
@@W_CPT May Jesus bring you peace and comfort
@frank3283
@frank3283 5 ай бұрын
I was a young child when I realized two things. First, every generation since the death of Jesus has likely believed his return was imminent due to various troubles of their time. Second, eventually, one generation will be right. The jury is still out.
@rogercolon619
@rogercolon619 5 ай бұрын
Im starting to believe that as well.
@billbuyers8683
@billbuyers8683 5 ай бұрын
Either way, we are to be watching and paying attention. We do not want to be taken by surprise by it.
@Illycrium
@Illycrium 5 ай бұрын
All the other generations didn't have Israel existing as a nation, which is necessary for end times chronology. If the other generations studied even a little bit, they would have recognized that Israel would need to be reestablished as a nation again before Christ returns.
@ookami5329
@ookami5329 4 ай бұрын
spit them fax brudduh
@flashlitestriker4028
@flashlitestriker4028 4 ай бұрын
I agree with you. Also, ANOTHER thing (or, "sign") I thought of though, is what is written in 2 Peter 3:3-5, about what the scoffers (which are, perhaps, the believers who've "fallen away from the faith" (?)) "main theme" of preaching/teaching shall be in the last days, of saying that all things are just continuing , same old/same old, "as they were from the beginning of creation"...
@user-ng6ly3zn6c
@user-ng6ly3zn6c 5 ай бұрын
Jesus also said, "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Matthew 6:34
@bassmanjr100
@bassmanjr100 5 ай бұрын
Jesus also taught us that He was the bridegroom and we are the bride. Study up on what that meant to a 1st century person living around Galilee. Very rewarding. Also Jesus expected people to know he was coming and was sad they didn't. Why? They were giving information on when he would be coming. We should not set dates but we should be looking with hope and anticipation. Comfort one another with the fact that Jesus is returning and may return in our lifetimes. I Thessalonians 4:13-18. Stay in the middle of the road. Don't get too far to either side.
@Window4503
@Window4503 5 ай бұрын
@@bassmanjr100But what did Jesus want us to do while waiting? What indicates that we’re ready for him? Doing the tasks he gave us as servants, not sitting there trying to guess when or how prophecy will be fulfilled. Our task is to preach the gospel and to care for the church. Those who do that are the servants Jesus will deem faithfully at work and ready for his return. Those are the ones who ARE watching because they are prioritizing the work God have the church to do. There is no “yes go preach but Jesus said to watch.” NO, to preach and serve IS to watch.
@theeternalsbeliever1779
@theeternalsbeliever1779 5 ай бұрын
You're twisting Christ's words. He said that within the context of a person worrying about what they will wear or eat. In Luke's version of the Olivet Prophecy, Christ said "WATCH and pray". Christ's followers surely ought to be paying attention to world events.
@bassmanjr100
@bassmanjr100 5 ай бұрын
Preach the gospel, yes, of course. Comfort other Christians with the fact that we are to look with anticipation for Christ's return, also yes. I have no idea how you can argue with Paul? Are you only able to do one thing? Have you never read the New Testament beyond the four gospels? There is room within the body of Christ for people of various talents and gifts. If everyone one of us was a missionary to Africa who would send them and support them? If everyone was a preacher then who would lead worship or cook a meal to help someone? Finally, just my personal experience, but I have found generally that people who are excited about Christ's return are also excited to spread gospel. Your typical Christmas and Easter church attender isn't doing either one.
@FireflowerDancer
@FireflowerDancer 5 ай бұрын
@@bassmanjr100 I wish church leaders had more of this kind of mindset. For some time now I have wanted to meet weekly and pray. Not about special agendas or the interests of a particular organization but just ordinary people gathering together to express their hearts and minds corporately to the Lord. I've been involved in evangelicalism my whole life, done a lot of church attendance, and never found a single group that would do something like this. But you're right. Everyone should be able to have a job within the body, and no job or gifting is more important than another. But they kind of act like the important people are the 'leadership' and 'the missionaries." Oh- and the 'worship team.' The holy trinity of church super stars ha ha. The 'little man' is not much more than a seat in a chair to make it appear that the service agenda of the leaders is successful. I tried and tried to go anyway, but at this point, I get physically ill whenever I try to do any sort of public event. Just too much stress, too much noise and hype, not enough quiet reflection.
@livefromtexas9371
@livefromtexas9371 5 ай бұрын
Hi Mike, I’m 70 yrs old and grew up in an “any minute now” church so I can understand your view. This time seems different to me. We know Israel is a key sign. It’s not just the current war, it’s the lawlessness we see, the push for globalism, moving towards a cashless society, the apostasy in the church, the moral decay. These are a few signs that Ive heard all my life. It seems like they’re happening together at the same time now. Jesus said we wouldn’t know the day that r hour but we could discern the season.
@sapphirelane1714
@sapphirelane1714 5 ай бұрын
Amen! Also all of UNs recent meetings on “Peace and Security.”
@peteb6325
@peteb6325 5 ай бұрын
I think you’re onto something there. ✌️
@livefromtexas9371
@livefromtexas9371 5 ай бұрын
@@rxvyy because I believe the Bible. What makes you think otherwise? What’s going on today is effecting most of the world not just one country or nation, not just one religion. What other Israel is there? Hitler didn’t have any problem identifying Jews. Why is there a problem today?
@livefromtexas9371
@livefromtexas9371 5 ай бұрын
@@rxvyySocialist? That’s a new one. We’re usually called fascists.
@bassmanjr100
@bassmanjr100 5 ай бұрын
You grew up in an any minute church? Lucky you, me too. I've gone to many churches over the decades and in my experience those churches are more excited about God than the ones that says it could be 2000 more years away. I think that God wants us to be excited about it and ready and motivated and looking. Even if we are wrong.
@marlena.
@marlena. 5 ай бұрын
As a teen I was really big on these christian prophecy/conspiracy channels... But all it did is make me anxious* and it kept me away from what matters. God and trying to live a faithfull life. *Edit: With anxious I don't mean scared, I mean it in a way of being constently on edge or looking for signs and danger everywhere.
@dylan6996
@dylan6996 5 ай бұрын
Well I don't know for you but The reason I often get scared because of those prophecies is because I'm scared of his coming because I know ive been lukewarm and that he could come at any moment if you're not lukewarm but have a atrong relationship with God and you have faith in Jesus you got nothing to worry about
@marlena.
@marlena. 5 ай бұрын
@@dylan6996 I dit not mean anxious as in scared of prophecies and the coming of Christ. I ment it more in a way of being constantly on edge, and seeing danger round every corner which is kind of what channels like that can cause people to feel especially when they only focus on those parts of the Bible. That does not mean we shouldn't be watchfull eighter.
@ShannonSonriseFamilyFarm
@ShannonSonriseFamilyFarm 5 ай бұрын
@marlena. Totally agree and I feel the same way
@JaredScott
@JaredScott 5 ай бұрын
After the lock down I decided that I’m just not going to let people convince me to be afraid of chaos. I’ll prep for emergencies and all that, but I’m also not going to lose sleep anymore over this stuff.
@philippbrogli779
@philippbrogli779 5 ай бұрын
That's a biblical mindset.
@mellissa82
@mellissa82 5 ай бұрын
Amen to that!
@InHIM564
@InHIM564 5 ай бұрын
Same!
@MickeyMo600
@MickeyMo600 5 ай бұрын
I am not worried. Jesus will be sent when time, now I got things I need to do.
@alan.s5773
@alan.s5773 5 ай бұрын
God gave us prophesies so that AFTER they come true then we know His Word is TRUE.
@janebond4175
@janebond4175 5 ай бұрын
Yeah and Jesus chastised the Pharisees for not recognizing the signs of his 1st coming. If they had been looking for them, they would have realized he was Jesus.
@savebyj
@savebyj 5 ай бұрын
This is the only 100% error-free eschatology: Jesus will return.
@1754Me
@1754Me 5 ай бұрын
You do know that there are other views out there besides the futurist view, right? Like the Historicist view? Or the Preterist view? Or the Idealist/Spiritualist view? You may want to look into these views as well in order to be fully convinced of what you believe. In my opinion, some of the other views have much stronger arguments in favor of them than the Futurist view as Mike holds.
@TEHORIGINALSTEVO
@TEHORIGINALSTEVO 5 ай бұрын
Amen! 🙏
@Sledg0matic
@Sledg0matic 5 ай бұрын
@@1754Me He said 100% error free, not 100% error.
@1754Me
@1754Me 5 ай бұрын
@@Sledg0matic That Jesus will return...yes, 100%. The Futurist view, well, right now it's batting a 0%, but I guess we have to wait and see.
@esq8
@esq8 5 ай бұрын
Always someone up for an argument.
@TroyBlack
@TroyBlack 5 ай бұрын
I agree. It's easy to over-emphasize the time we live in and under-emphasize what Jesus said would be happening the whole time leading up to the end. Crazy things have been happening through the centuries. We need to be busy doing what Jesus taught us to do and bringing people into the kingdom :)
@argentiskyblau159
@argentiskyblau159 5 ай бұрын
Please do a video on Eastern Orthodoxy. I have been looking into this and thinking about joining the church. I come from a non-denominational charismatic church background.
@bryangatewood6749
@bryangatewood6749 5 ай бұрын
“Adjust for daylight savings time”😂😂😂 Thank you for this. Some of these arguments are very compelling but still can be wrong. It’s important that we have the right approach as the Bereans did when hearing the news of Jesus
@taangpeifong5334
@taangpeifong5334 5 ай бұрын
God bless you Pastor Mike. You have helped me so much to grow and be discipled in my path as a new believer that grew up in the faith. Praise Christ Jesus 🙏🏻
@sandragambrel9721
@sandragambrel9721 5 ай бұрын
It's my understanding that you can't know an event was a fulfillment of a prophecy until after it happens. That's how we know whether someone is a Prophet, or, not. This event in Israel isn't over yet. We're yet to see the outcome. Then we will have more knowledge, and wisdom, as to where we are at. No one here at my house is flipping out. We're taking it one day at a time, and loving others as much as we can as we go. We're told to look up, not out, our redemption draweth nigh, amen!!!
@1754Me
@1754Me 5 ай бұрын
So is Daniel a false prophet? Daniel 2 says that God is going to set up His eternal Kingdom during the Roman Empire. And His eternal kingdom is going to grow into a mountain which fills the earth (sort of like a mustard seed turning into a great tree in which the birds of the air can rest in its branches--Mt 13:31-32; Mk 4:31-32; Lk 13:18-19). The Roman Empire has come and gone. Is Daniel a true prophet or a false prophet? Is God's eternal Kingdom filling the earth?
@jpg7616
@jpg7616 5 ай бұрын
@@1754Me fyi - Jesus Christ lived during the Roman Empire. He established a kingdom that will never end - but a Spiritual kingdom of those who are saved from their sins. And that kingdom is growing and spreading all over the world. So maybe Daniel wasn’t as wrong as you think
@1754Me
@1754Me 5 ай бұрын
@@jpg7616 I completely agree with you. I want Dispensationalist/Futurist to see what their claims believe for themselves, as I once used to and was taught. But Jesus's Kingdom is now. He is King and those who obey His commands are in His Kingdom (which is eternal). All authority in heaven and on earth are given to Him. He is seated on His Throne. All the apostles taught about His Kingdom. On the Last Day, our faith will be made sight, and He will return to the new earth and judge who were His faithful servants and who were His enemies. The faithful servants will be given eternal life which is only found in the King, and His enemies will forgo eternal life and be thrown into the lake of fire which is their second death.
@theeternalsbeliever1779
@theeternalsbeliever1779 5 ай бұрын
@@jpg7616 You're spiritualizing the Kingdom of God away because you don't believe what Daniel said about it being a literal kingdom. Christ will set up God's Kingdom on Earth _when He returns_ . He clearly didn't set it up when He was here the first time because Satan still rules this world(2 Cor. 4:4, Rev. 12:9)!
@1754Me
@1754Me 5 ай бұрын
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 Where does Daniel say that it has to be a "literal, physical" kingdom? Why can't it be a spiritual Kingdom? Was God physically present with Israel as a king on earth when he declared to them through Moses in Ex 19:1-6, that "IF you will indeed obey my voice and keep my covenant, you shall be my treasured possession among all peoples, for all the earth is mine; and you shall be to me a KINGDOM of priests and a holy nation"? Was God physically present when Israel rejected Him as King, demanding a new king in 1 Sam 8:4-9? ("they have rejected me from being king over them.") This was a spiritual kingdom. So, again, do you believe that Daniel is a false prophet? Again, Rome has come and gone. Did God set up His eternal Kingdom or did he not? If He did, then at this moment the Kingdom must be Spiritual in nature (must be born of the Spirit--Jn 3; "my Kingdom is not of this world"--Jn 18:36; "the Kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit"--Rom 14:17) But if God didn't set up His Kingdom during the time of the Roman Empire, then Daniel was a false prophet as his words did not come true. Jesus called Daniel a "prophet" so I will believe that his prophecies did come true. A kingdom simply consists of a King, and those that obey His commands. Jesus is seated on the throne. All authority in heaven and on earth belongs to Him. Those that obey His commands are in His Kingdom currently. Why do you make it so that He physically has to be here to reign? Is He not reigning already? Peter applies the Kingdom which was given through Moses to the Church--"But you are a chosen race, a royal (i.e. belonging to a King) priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light." (1 Peter 2:9. Compare to Ex 19 above) All the apostles talk about the Kingdom being now. Paul says in Col 1:13-14, "He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins." Notice that it is present tense, not future tense. Paul was always speaking about Jesus as King and about the Kingdom (For examples see Acts 17:7; 19:8; 20:25; 28:23; and 28:30-31--"He lived there two whole years at his own expense, and welcomed all who came to him, PROCLAIMING THE KINGDOM OF GOD and teaching about the Lord Jesus Christ with all boldness and without hindrance.") Jesus entire ministry was about the Kingdom. From the very first words of His public ministry as recorded in Mark 1:15, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.” And then even after His resurrection in Acts 1:3, "He presented himself alive to them after his suffering by many proofs, appearing to them during forty days and speaking about the kingdom of God." It is all about His Kingdom. That is the Good News! He has the Victory! He reigns! Obey His commands as He is King now. We must enter now into His Kingdom, otherwise when He physically returns on the Last Day, we will be regarded as one of His enemies. Blessings.
@v4756nb1rs
@v4756nb1rs 23 күн бұрын
PASTOR MIKE'S SHIRT!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Love it, and the whole BibleThinker team! 🙏✝️🕊️Thy kingdom come, Lord. And may we make disciples and win hearts for Jesus until that day.
@RisenLambMinistries
@RisenLambMinistries 5 ай бұрын
It is wonderful to study prophecy! To be a watchman on the wall is a good thing, however, if our focus is entirely on prophecy that "might be" happening we may lose focus on the great commission! We first prioritize the great commission, acting in love in response to Christ's salvific work making disciples of the world. Anything else is secondary and mostly compliments our walk with the Lord! Thank you for your work in the Lord Mike, you have continually inspired me, and others around me, in your careful handling of the word!
@freedomfighter4990
@freedomfighter4990 5 ай бұрын
Thanks you Pastor Mike for that reasoned & careful response. You're the 1st pastor I've seen online who isn't trying to superimpose scripture onto the current conflict in Gaza.
@mlmallory2780
@mlmallory2780 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, Pastor Mike! A voice of reason in these troubled times. 😊😊😊😊
@argentiskyblau159
@argentiskyblau159 5 ай бұрын
Please do a video on Eastern Orthodoxy. I have been looking into this and thinking about joining the church. I come from a non-denominational charismatic church background.
@CJ-ov1pl
@CJ-ov1pl 4 күн бұрын
I don't worry about this. God is in control. He won't hurt me if I believd in Jesus.
@Biblememorychants
@Biblememorychants 5 ай бұрын
I understand your points for sure. On the other hand, aren’t we given certain signs to look for? Israel becoming a nation and being regathered is certainly a huge one. That certainly makes our era different from the big shakings of the past that you mentioned. Also, the birth pangs (happenings more intense and more frequent) also seem to be occurring. 🤔🤔😃
@123456CBOY
@123456CBOY 5 ай бұрын
The pastor at my church said this war will go on n he asked God is gaza going to be demolish God told him no
@kirstyforbes4603
@kirstyforbes4603 5 ай бұрын
The idea that this Israeli 'state' - which was established by going against every commandment given to us on how to treat people - is the Israel of the Bible is deeply flawed. Abraham and Sarah tried to force the fulfilment of prophecy themselves too instead of leaving it to God. Murdering en masse and sticking an Israeli flag on it isn't going to bring about the return of Jesus any quicker. And it certainly isn't winning souls for Christ. A desperately sad situation I imagine the Spirit, left to us by the Jesus who went to the cross for these Palestinians, grieves over.
@fire7side
@fire7side 5 ай бұрын
Israel becoming a nation again is the fulfillment of prophecy. Being surrounded by enemies is the fulfillment of prophecy.
@johnmarkharris
@johnmarkharris 5 ай бұрын
🤔
@krustysurfer
@krustysurfer 5 ай бұрын
They have not announced the rebuilding of the temple yet and the Antimessiah has not been revealed to rule from the temple mount. It could be tomorrow, it could be 70 years it could be 7000... Who knows? Only when they announce the rebuilding of that temple do the final seven year period begins. I dont think AI kill switch is in place for them to persecute believers who refuse the mark of the beast, were close, but, not yet. I could be wrong, jury is still out on that one... Blessings unto you.
@justinhawes1593
@justinhawes1593 5 ай бұрын
But these conditions have been met before, but Christ has not yet returned. I think some humility is warranted.
@LilJbm1
@LilJbm1 5 ай бұрын
@@justinhawes1593 Have they been met before? Specifically Israel being a nation surrounded by enemies. I think Israel has NOT existed as a nation EVER since Christ's time until recently after WW2. Unless you mean Israel conflicts post WW2 have happened before then yes. But Israel being reestablished IS prophetic and it does move us on the timeline THAT is major. Israel v Hamas may just be another "wars and rumors of wars" but it's not for us to know.
@MeTuLHeD
@MeTuLHeD 5 ай бұрын
How about during The Six Day War? They were literally surrounded by enemies and fighting a war on multiple fronts...and WON! And we're still here.
@CashFord-mk8pj
@CashFord-mk8pj 5 ай бұрын
I needed this, as i became a follower of Jesus threw people telling me the end times was a specific day, luckily god got a hold of me and showed me truth, but thank you so much
@bobbyrice2858
@bobbyrice2858 5 ай бұрын
Mike falls into the classic pre-millennial dispensational trap of missing exegetical cross-reference between the Tanakh prophets and the New Testament writings of John. He reads plainly rather than actually understanding localized language. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. Revelation 12:4 And some of the host and some of the stars it threw down to the ground and trampled on them. Daniel 8:10 revelation and Daniel used cosmic language for localized destruction. I mean think about it, no one during that time had any concept of the globe itself in a worldly sense, so any reference to the “world“ was a localized event. Therefore, reading plainly or literally is a mistake, especially in light of Torah and Tanakh destruction language. we today, you, me, we tend to read INTO the text our surrounding understandings because “our” world definition is literally the planet. They back then had no concept of planetary affairs. “Their world” was local. The Roman Empire. Matthew 24:15-16 ESV "So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place ( let the reader understand), [16] then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Who flees? Where??? THE WHOLE world? No. Israel. And this happened right before Rome surrounded and destroyed Jerusalem. Luke 21:20 ESV "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. In the writings of Josephus Rome surrounded Jerusalem then turned around temporary early due to false reports that Rome had been seized. During this time the church escaped to the mountains. Mime doesn’t see this because he doesn’t know history beyond scripture.
@McElvisss
@McElvisss 5 ай бұрын
I think we all (inlcuding non-believers) have this desire to be living in epochal times. And for many Christians that manifests itself in wanting to be living through prophesied events.
@kriegjaeger
@kriegjaeger 5 ай бұрын
We are living through prophesied events though, Eze 37 prophesies the return of Israel and its thriving. Happened less than a century ago and has increased since.
@johosk5503
@johosk5503 5 ай бұрын
I believe this is conditioning from Hollywood and Government.
@phoenixgamer1565
@phoenixgamer1565 5 ай бұрын
Revelation 13:18 is coming. CBDC will be using it.
@collinb.8542
@collinb.8542 5 ай бұрын
Am i the only one who doesnt want to live through that? Idk maybe thats a bad thing on my part but that sounds horrific, somewhat epic yes as well lol but definitely scary.
@phoenixgamer1565
@phoenixgamer1565 5 ай бұрын
@@collinb.8542 That is why the 'PRE-tribulation rapture is such a popular lie among Christians. They don't want to be here during the 7 year great tribulation period (Although it's the 2nd part [3.5 years] that is when Revelation 13:18 is forced by the antichrist).
@stevendobo4059
@stevendobo4059 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for bringing sanity back to the study of Revelation.
@27Zangle
@27Zangle 5 ай бұрын
What I've always said is that we're in the final moments or even seconds and it could be any time, today, tomorrow, next week, month, years, decade, etc. Who knows. With that, what a time to be alive, to witness everything take place and to have all the scriptures readily available to read and study. We're a blessed generation and while many now say, "Come Lord Jesus!" To which every believer agrees, but I've always felt guilty for that mindset as there are so many lost. So yes, come Lord Jesus, but give us oppertunities to witness and disciple until that time.
@jonathonaltmann4493
@jonathonaltmann4493 5 ай бұрын
I think Christians are really excited about Jesus's second coming and it's right for this to be the case. The fact that more Christians are anticipating rather than falling asleep at their post is a good sign.
@LilJbm1
@LilJbm1 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree but we have to also have humility as Christ said "Only the Father knows the hour". Be excited! Be ready for His coming to be today! However, don't say it is today or tomorrow because we don't know
@romariosmith422
@romariosmith422 5 ай бұрын
Sounds more like anxiety to me
@Window4503
@Window4503 5 ай бұрын
But if we look at biblically what it means to be awake, it has more to do with serving God and others faithfully and not being swept up by the world, not just getting into random predictions and thinking about the end. I think it’s very possible to think one is awake because of end-time enthusiasm only to actually be found asleep because one isn’t actually doing the tasks Jesus gave believers before he left.
@janebond4175
@janebond4175 5 ай бұрын
No serious Christian says that. I really encourage you and anyone else who's ready to thumbs up on this comment, to stop throwing this out there. Just because passionate Christians, excited about Jesus's return, are trying to discern the times, doesn't mean they're setting dates. Your comment feels like a cold water tactic. I'm sure it's not intended that way, but you should be aware how it sounds.
@jonathonaltmann4493
@jonathonaltmann4493 5 ай бұрын
@@janebond4175 It sounds like you might be reading too far into my comment. Does the Bible not say to be vigilant and sober minded, if more people are coming to Christ it is a good sign, who can argue? Take what meaning you want from the comment, may God bless you and keep you.
@susanfox6666
@susanfox6666 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, Pastor Winger.
@helvetika7173
@helvetika7173 5 ай бұрын
Mike, I always appreciate your calm, down-to-earth, common sense manner. I've been thinking a lot about this lately as well and kind tense up when people start stating that we're at a specific point in the end times. As soon as I saw you did a video about this, I watched it! Great stuff!
@VoidSplendor
@VoidSplendor 5 ай бұрын
While I personally think we're getting pretty close to His return, I appreciate this sober take on the end times. A lot of fear mongering comes from those that are "too excited" and point to anything that can confirm their bias. Let's continue to discern.
@laureah21
@laureah21 5 ай бұрын
I think to we can over investigate but scripture commands us to be watchful and sober in our watchfulness. I think it’s unwise to not be watchful at all. Ask God to show you what is important and trust that He will give you wisdom on it. Revelation 13:18 says that this calls for wisdom. So I believe that as we are watchful and prayerful about everything that crosses our path we call out for wisdom and it will be given to us.
@kriegjaeger
@kriegjaeger 5 ай бұрын
I'd have to check my notes on where exactly but 2nd Peter relates; 4 saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? Ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they have been since the beginning of creation.” And I know elsewhere we're told not to reject? Dismiss? Scoff? At prophecy. Many do because it's a very hard topic. On one hand people still aren't ready to let go of the world and don't want it to end, while others want it to end right now.
@melfuz
@melfuz 5 ай бұрын
Yes, yes, yes!! 100% agree! Luke 12:40 Matthew 24: 36-44 Matthew 25:13 Mark 13:32-33 Titus 2:13
@daisyreyes3256
@daisyreyes3256 5 ай бұрын
Amen... so well said....
@alpinegirl
@alpinegirl 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! This message is so needed. I also became jaded in high school after reading a book from my church library that predicted Jesus's return in 1998.
@annie-v_z-
@annie-v_z- 5 ай бұрын
I have been WAITING for you to do a short on this! I knew it would come. Yay! 🎉😊
@Batgirl77777777
@Batgirl77777777 5 ай бұрын
We have to remember that we are getting closer to His return for us, not farther away. I was born in the 50’s and I believed that His return was close then! I’m so excited and never discouraged about looking forward to His coming! Back in the days there were many single prophetic looking events, but today they are worldwide events almost daily! I’ve had six children and I understand about labor and birth pangs. We are getting much much closer to the time of delivery! Jesus tells us that when these things begin to happen, that we should look up because our redemption draweth nigh! Im looking up!
@loveforgood7520
@loveforgood7520 5 ай бұрын
One thing we all should know to be true, we are getting closer to the hour to Jesus second coming. I've learned to go day by day and follow God's word daily the best I can do and watch, but do best not to fret over the times happening and coming.
@loveforgood7520
@loveforgood7520 5 ай бұрын
Also, ive learned to be more careful about who I listen to the pastors and other church leaders and those who give "prophetic" words. I now have stopped listening to those who give them quite a bit over tv like TBN and CBN, from those that have went through experience of seeing and hearing the true behind closed doors.
@sandiland0000
@sandiland0000 5 ай бұрын
I like your and also the weekly prophecy videos you referenced. You both are children of God. I believe and trust God. His word is true and He will be back just like He said He would. At 56 years old, i’m happy to know that i’ve only got 40 or less years to finally be face to face with my creator in all in His glory. I experienced a spiritual shift in 2020, God woke me back up and not with a news clip and now i can clearly see how worldly events are biblically “increasing” and lining up, just like He said they would. I agree.. no man knows the hour. The spiritual sense of urgency is from the birth pangs from God and not man. If i’m “caught up” before my physical death, then that will be amazing, and i welcome that. If I die my physical death i’m still going to be in his presence immediately after. However, i’m not jaded or bummed out either way, if that doesn’t happen. i’m still trusting God, His word and His timing to finally be with Him and worshipping Him for all of eternity. So, in the mean time…. i’ll continue loving Him and pointing others to Him using His word and comforting and reminding people who ask “what is going on or wrong with this world?” I’ll point them to The Gospel, as we all were told to do and looking up for His return just as Jesus asked us all to do. He will be coming from the direction as when He left, so whether He catches me up… or comes down, from above…I am His and He is mine. Praise Jesus!
@rheeslane9529
@rheeslane9529 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! I've had friends that are obsessed with end time prophecy and it's easy to get kind of sucked into it. Especially when a notable pastor like the one you mentioned is always posting stuff. But it seems to me the most important thing is still the most important thing, regardless of end time prophecy. Love Jesus, and love others.
@christobonbanana
@christobonbanana 5 ай бұрын
Mark 13:7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet. Enough said.
@justhectorjoseph
@justhectorjoseph 5 ай бұрын
When I see the Son of Man riding on the clouds, then I’ll know 🤷🏽‍♂️
@danielbrowniel
@danielbrowniel 5 ай бұрын
As lightening comes in the east and shines as far as the west..
@twoalarm
@twoalarm 5 ай бұрын
I love your shorter videos. 50 minutes or more have there place but you still give cogent information in your shorter videos as well.
@JhutaNabi
@JhutaNabi 5 ай бұрын
There is so much yet to cove in our walk with Jesus today, I focus on today. Tomorrow will take care of itself. I believe God will show me what to do at the right time. That said, I live prepared to meet Jesus today, while preparing my life as though He isn’t coming in my lifetime. Sometimes I wonder if this fixation on the Rapture and end times among believers isn’t fueled by escapism - wanting the east way out instead of John 16:33.
@jeaninehawkins2258
@jeaninehawkins2258 5 ай бұрын
I watch a few of these prophecy updates and I appreciate them because they give me a biblical perspective about current events. The reminder that Jesus could come back at any time is a good thing. He said to watch and be alert. We should also be mindful that nothing could happen for a thousand years. There are plenty of things to point to right now, though, such as the peace plan that almost happened and might still happen, the plans for the 3rd temple (which are contingent on the peace plan), and the fact that peace is so hard to achieve right now, it will take a notable person such as the Anti-Christ to resolve the issues (temporarily). Only God knows if that's right around the corner or hundreds of years away.
@1754Me
@1754Me 5 ай бұрын
Where is this 3rd temple prophesied at in the Bible? Before the 2nd one was built? Yes. It is the temple that the Jews could have had "if they are ashamed of all that they have done" (Ezekiel 43:10-11). Obviously, they weren't ashamed and didn't repent as only a small number of Jews (approx 50,000) left Babylon when allowed to go and return/rebuild Jerusalem. Ezekiel's temple is the one that might have been. There is no other temple that is predicted to be built. Also, since the pre-tribulation rapture is supposed to occur taking all the Christians to heaven (according to the futurist view, since you know, "the Church age is a parenthesis" and all), shouldn't that wicked man actually be called the "Anti-Jew" or "Anti-Israeli" since Dispensationalists believe that it's all about Israel?
@kurtweiand7086
@kurtweiand7086 5 ай бұрын
Your channel is so well balanced Mike! May the Lord Jesus keep 🙏 you humble and well informed! Protect him Jesus!
@mamawlife7852
@mamawlife7852 5 ай бұрын
Everyday that is lived is a fulfillment. It's all planned. I choose to be a part of it for the good.
@Raeodor
@Raeodor 5 ай бұрын
One thing is for certain, we are closer now than we have ever been in the past
@HooblaDGN
@HooblaDGN 5 ай бұрын
The pastor of my Calvary Chapel is constantly referencing end times in relation to current events. It’s especially grating because of Calvary Chapel’s history of failed prediction. I love my church because it focuses on God, and we all have our flaws. I just hope that in a few decades they realize that they’ve been saying that the end is nigh for too long and have some humility about it.
@BertGraef
@BertGraef 3 ай бұрын
Calvary preaches zionist propaganda in the name of bible prophecy for today. Study preterism as the rational ,historic alternative to these people who refuse to listen to anything but thier "Israel is first and can do no wrong" rhetoric . They make constant and endless excuses for a behavior of that state that is totally unjustified .
@michaelpastovich5862
@michaelpastovich5862 5 ай бұрын
I just wanna state I love the cat shirt in this video. Makes me feel safe watching an amazing Pastor speak on dreadful issues in a cat shirt!
@chrisd8363
@chrisd8363 5 ай бұрын
Dr. Andy Woods is really good for this.
@stephen4384
@stephen4384 5 ай бұрын
People think 70AD was the complete fulfillment of end time prophecy. Which is odd since Revelation wasn't even written
@kevinhuman6275
@kevinhuman6275 5 ай бұрын
I think it could be relevant today because of technology and the potential. “End times” could also be beginning of entirely new era
@wesleymorrison7416
@wesleymorrison7416 5 ай бұрын
I’d love for you to have Dr Mark Hitchcock on. Not for a debate but just to give your viewers an overview of end times prophecy from a biblical perspective. Maranatha
@reneenyberg4832
@reneenyberg4832 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. I needed your message today and I agree. I have been thinking similarly but allowing my mind to get distracted.
@kimadams2995
@kimadams2995 5 ай бұрын
I am an end-times prophecy buff, and have been for decades...my general rule of thumb, is when they start coming up with numerology calculations (beyond the 666 specified in scripture) I check out. There are other warning signs for me (don't ever give me an actual date, for instance) but that's the biggie.
@rebekahearly1144
@rebekahearly1144 5 ай бұрын
In my family we like to say, if God the Father hasn’t even told Jesus (Matthew 24:36), He definitely hasn’t told that guy on KZbin 😅
@marlena.
@marlena. 5 ай бұрын
​@@rebekahearly1144So true! As a teen I was really big on these prophecy/conspiracy channels but all it does is keeping you away from what matters. God and trying to live a christ-like life.
@awethinic8379
@awethinic8379 5 ай бұрын
I also listen to others but im just not going to fall into hole of prophecy. If they don’t tie in definite commandments that we all know, love thy neighbor. I don’t credit them much. Also those begging Jesus to return is a red flag. But we all fall short and only grace is what saves us all. Peace to all
@1754Me
@1754Me 5 ай бұрын
You do realize that they original readers of Revelation could figure out who this MAN was, correct? Because this was a man living in their day. You do realize this? As Revelation 13:18 says, "He is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666." As many scholars have pointed out, that if you take the name "Caesar Nero" in the Hebrew form and do what a lot of the 1st Century readers did and assign numbers to the letters (called gematria), this calculates up to...666. Those in the 1st Century who thoughts (mark on the forehead) and works (mark on the hands) were not towards Nero were unable to buy or sell, leading the Christians to economic distress. (Contrast God's mark on Believers' foreheads in Rev 14:1)
@awethinic8379
@awethinic8379 5 ай бұрын
@@1754Me many make this claim,but rome never controlled the whole world and its clear that the ac will inflict his mark and ideas on the whole world.
@rogermansour6085
@rogermansour6085 5 ай бұрын
Great points Pastor Mike. Yes we need to be careful. I'm really into eschatology. Also remember 2 Peter Chapter 3. Let's not be too jaded. Love your teachings and videos. Evangelist Roger Mansour
@bobbyrice2858
@bobbyrice2858 5 ай бұрын
Mike falls into the classic pre-millennial dispensational trap of missing exegetical cross-reference between the Tanakh prophets and the New Testament writings of John. He reads plainly rather than actually understanding localized language. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. Revelation 12:4 And some of the host and some of the stars it threw down to the ground and trampled on them. Daniel 8:10 revelation and Daniel used cosmic language for localized destruction. I mean think about it, no one during that time had any concept of the globe itself in a worldly sense, so any reference to the “world“ was a localized event. Therefore, reading plainly or literally is a mistake, especially in light of Torah and Tanakh destruction language. we today, you, me, we tend to read INTO the text our surrounding understandings because “our” world definition is literally the planet. They back then had no concept of planetary affairs. “Their world” was local. The Roman Empire. Matthew 24:15-16 ESV "So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place ( let the reader understand), [16] then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Who flees? Where??? THE WHOLE world? No. Israel. And this happened right before Rome surrounded and destroyed Jerusalem. Luke 21:20 ESV "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. In the writings of Josephus Rome surrounded Jerusalem then turned around temporary early due to false reports that Rome had been seized. During this time the church escaped to the mountains. Mime doesn’t see this because he doesn’t know history beyond scripture.
@AnnA-bz9md
@AnnA-bz9md 4 ай бұрын
This is such a great reminder. Thanks so much Pastor Mike 🙏. God bless your ministry.
@david_c_jacob
@david_c_jacob 4 ай бұрын
Well-put. Thank you for your clarity.
@allie8442
@allie8442 5 ай бұрын
Yes 💯 . This video needed to be made. God used you to articulate well.
@bobbyrice2858
@bobbyrice2858 5 ай бұрын
Mike falls into the classic pre-millennial dispensational trap of missing exegetical cross-reference between the Tanakh prophets and the New Testament writings of John. He reads plainly rather than actually understanding localized language. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. Revelation 12:4 And some of the host and some of the stars it threw down to the ground and trampled on them. Daniel 8:10 revelation and Daniel used cosmic language for localized destruction. I mean think about it, no one during that time had any concept of the globe itself in a worldly sense, so any reference to the “world“ was a localized event. Therefore, reading plainly or literally is a mistake, especially in light of Torah and Tanakh destruction language. we today, you, me, we tend to read INTO the text our surrounding understandings because “our” world definition is literally the planet. They back then had no concept of planetary affairs. “Their world” was local. The Roman Empire. Matthew 24:15-16 ESV "So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place ( let the reader understand), [16] then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Who flees? Where??? THE WHOLE world? No. Israel. And this happened right before Rome surrounded and destroyed Jerusalem. Luke 21:20 ESV "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. In the writings of Josephus Rome surrounded Jerusalem then turned around temporary early due to false reports that Rome had been seized. During this time the church escaped to the mountains. Mike doesn’t see this because he doesn’t know history beyond scripture.
@Lord-Jesus-Saves
@Lord-Jesus-Saves 5 ай бұрын
He described these times good to the pharisees. An we've seen signs an wonders. I'm looking up
@jenniferkirlin6364
@jenniferkirlin6364 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate this video! Thanks Mike for sharing! As a skeptic on prophecy related to current world events, this was really helpful.
@andresullivan6473
@andresullivan6473 4 ай бұрын
Im 66 years old i have been so deep into endtime prophecy but i now rest in the fact that Jesus said look up because your redemption drawth nigh. Weather its now or a 1000 years from now my redemption draws nigh. Looking at the world its running to irs distruction. Keep you focus on Christ and him alone have oil for your lamp
@SailingInFaith
@SailingInFaith 5 ай бұрын
Nothing is going to happen until all nations and all tribes have been witnessed to . Sadly that’s going to be a while as the church today is less and less interested in mission. As Christian’s we have got too caught up in what the world offers in a nice house, nice car , nice possessions, and a nice education. Many church’s have no community it’s just some place to be on a Sunday morning.
@zackstanderfer3406
@zackstanderfer3406 5 ай бұрын
Yea, but heres the thing, people have come to know Christ through a phone, videos. How my pastor put it it's not everyone getting witnessed in person, its the word distributed to everyone, I think. and the word is easily available and free on a phone.
@rachelrogstad9955
@rachelrogstad9955 5 ай бұрын
An angel is going to do that... Revelation 14:6 ESV Then I saw another angel flying directly overhead, with an eternal gospel to proclaim to those who dwell on earth, to every nation and tribe and language and people.
@TommyNitro
@TommyNitro 5 ай бұрын
Or maybe stop looking at the Western church. Christianity is booming in other parts of the world.
@SailingInFaith
@SailingInFaith 5 ай бұрын
@@zackstanderfer3406 My point has just been proven. Most third world countries and tribes that live in far off places do NOT have the luxury of a phone with internet connectivity! This is my point exactly !! Let’s rely on someone else to do the work for us instead of doing what we have been commanded to do !
@Bigfoottehchipmunk
@Bigfoottehchipmunk 5 ай бұрын
Not all churches.
@QueMari
@QueMari 5 ай бұрын
Amazingly, even the first century church thought they were in the end times.
@theeternalsbeliever1779
@theeternalsbeliever1779 5 ай бұрын
That's because they didn't know that the events that occurred during their lifetimes were only a type of what was supposed to happen in the future. The original apostles who followed Christ as disciples probably thought John the Baptizer was the end-time Elijah Christ talked about in Matt. 17:10-11.
@1754Me
@1754Me 5 ай бұрын
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 Where in the Bible does it say that the events in their lifetimes were only a type of what was supposed to happen in the future?
@benneisam
@benneisam 5 ай бұрын
​​​@@theeternalsbeliever1779 they thought he was because Jesus said he was. Matthew 11 "Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet. 10This is he of whom it is written, “‘Behold, I send my messenger before your face, who will prepare your way before you.’ Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has arisen no one greater than John the Baptist. Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. 12From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence,and and the violent take it by force. 13For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John, 14and if you are willing to accept it, he is Elijah who is to come. 15He who has ears to hear,e let him hear. Malachi 4 5“Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the great and awesome day of the LORD comes. 6And he will turn the hearts of fathers to their children and the hearts of children to their fathers, lest I come and strike the land with a decree of utter destruction." Note how in Mathew it says "13For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John" John was the last one. There is not another.
@awake780
@awake780 5 ай бұрын
What a phenomenally well-balanced perspective. After getting swept up in the hype earlier this year, I’ve taken a step back and seen the hysteria for what it is.
@alhe2147
@alhe2147 4 ай бұрын
Jaded; yes, I feel the same. I keep reminding my teams at work that we’re all just doing life together. So let’s let our eyes looking upwards and surrender to God’s plan.
@tommcmichael8679
@tommcmichael8679 5 ай бұрын
I have friends that totally left the Pre-millenial view because they grew up in churches that made giant and huge claims. So much, that it wore them out. They now embrace the Preterist view. I'm with you Mike. Good talk.
@1754Me
@1754Me 5 ай бұрын
The partial -preterist view has better evidence, in my opinion, than a futurist view.
@Mark-cd2wf
@Mark-cd2wf 5 ай бұрын
@@1754MeCouldn’t agree more. Partial-preterism explains everything in the NT prophecies so much better than futurism. And it even shows why Jesus was not a false prophet in Matt. 24. Even _CS Lewis_ (one of my heroes) thought Jesus might have got it wrong in His Olivet Discourse! Because Lewis, like so many others, thought Jesus was predicting His Second Coming proper, and not His coming in judgment on Jerusalem in AD 70. Preterism saves the Church from all this “newspaper eschatology” that’s been going on forever. Even so, come Lord Jesus.🙏
@stephen4384
@stephen4384 5 ай бұрын
@@Mark-cd2wf I believe Matthew 24 was preparing the Jews for the coming persecution as well as the future tribulation. For the Christian in the church age, we shouldn't be looking for signs but obeying our commands. I'm not sure why peterism is necessary for that. The world has had the same problems forever. I don't believe Israel has to be back in the land for Christ to return as their gathering ultimately depends on Christ's return
@janebond4175
@janebond4175 5 ай бұрын
Israel has to be back in the land because the entire tribulation period is about Israel.
@1754Me
@1754Me 5 ай бұрын
@@janebond4175 Is that because your end-time teachers tell you that or because it is in the Bible? What tribulation are you speaking of, the one told in the Olivet Discourse found in Mt 24:1-35, Mk 13:1-37, and Lk 21:5-36? If it's that one, Jesus was speaking about the tribulation of the unbelieving Jewish people with the Destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple which occurred in 70AD. That occurred within that generation as Jesus had prophesized. That one is done. Fulfilled. Where else does it say that Israel has to be back in the land for the tribulation? Where does it say how long this tribulation will be? The Bible tells us that the land promises that God made to Israel were fulfilled when Joshua led the descendants of Abraham into Palestine. "The Lord gave Israel all the land he had sworn to give their forefathers, and they took possession of it and settled there" (Joshua 21:43) You can also see this in Joshua 23:14, 1 Kings 4:20-21, and in 1 Kings 8:56. All the prophecies about Israel being regathered were either before or during the Babylonian captivity. There were none made after that time. So those too are fulfilled. If you know of one, please share.
@andrewhughes8687
@andrewhughes8687 5 ай бұрын
What I find truly ironic is that by people prophesying the fulfilment of biblical prophecy, they are fulfilling the prophecy that there will be an increase in false prophets.
@geneeddleman2132
@geneeddleman2132 5 ай бұрын
relating to the prophecy of Jesus to which you refer - too many preachers teach about wars and rumors of wars, etc, but appear to not notice that He follows it immediately with, "but the end is not yet." Glad to see you pointing this out
@kevkev2380
@kevkev2380 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your sound and rational thoughts sir.
@stand4truth607
@stand4truth607 5 ай бұрын
The only thing we can see clearly is the stage being set for the mark one day. Asides from that, I'm 100% with you. When it happens, we will know for sure
@1754Me
@1754Me 5 ай бұрын
Please. You do realize that they original readers of Revelation could figure out who this MAN was, correct? Because this was a man living in their day. You do realize this? As Revelation 13:18 says, "He is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666." As many scholars have pointed out, that if you take the name "Caesar Nero" in the Hebrew form and do what a lot of the 1st Century readers did and assign numbers to the letters (called gematria), this calculates up to...666. Those in the 1st Century who thoughts (mark on the forehead) and works (mark on the hands) were not towards Nero were unable to buy or sell, leading the Christians to economic distress. (Contrast God's mark on Believers' foreheads in Rev 14:1)
@stand4truth607
@stand4truth607 5 ай бұрын
@1754Me Wrong. The man has not been revealed yet. You have stuff like the Rivers Euphrates almost drying up. That happens after the man of sin is revealed. We aren't called to guess by someone's name. If you even read it for yourself. You'll would see all the stuff that would have followed it. There have been many types of antichrist, but not the antichrist. Did Nero cause the WHOLE world to marvel after him? Because that's what the antichrist will do. That will come later with the technology we will have. To make all great and small to take it.
@theeternalsbeliever1779
@theeternalsbeliever1779 5 ай бұрын
@@1754Me Revelation only says this man will be _like_ Nero. Nero had killed himself a couple of decades before Revelation was written so it obviously wasn't Nero himself.
@1754Me
@1754Me 5 ай бұрын
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 Where does it say "this man will be like Nero"? Are you speaking of Rev 13 and the references to a "mortal head wound that healed"? As far as the dating of Revelation, many scholars believe in an early date (late 50s to late 60s AD) for just a few of the following reasons: 1. The temple in Jerusalem appears to still be standing (11:1-2),, but it was destroyed in 70AD by the Romans. 2. The sixth king who was currently reigning as Rev 17:10 states would be Nero. 3. "Caesar Nero" in Hebrew calculates into 666. 4. The Muratorian Canon Fragment, dated around 170 AD, provides a list of New Testament books accepted as canonical. In this it states: "Apostle Paul himself, following the example of his predecessor John, writes by name to only seven churches." Paul died around 67AD. If he is following the lead "of his predecessor John", this could only mean that John wrote Revelation before Paul's death. 5. Irenaeus' dating statement is vague as it could either be interpreted that either John saw his vision during the reign of Domitian OR that John himself was seen during the reign of Domitian. Earlier in that same Irenaeus statement, he refers to the number 666 as appearing in "all the...ANCIENT COPIES" of the book of Revelation. This presupposes that the book had been around for a good long time. But he goes on to say that the time of Domitian's reign was not considered as ancient history as his reign was "almost in our day". How could Irenaeus speak of "ancient copies" of a work whose original had been written "almost" in his own time? 6. Some scholars also believe that Revelation is John's recording of the Olivet Discourse (Mt 24:1-35; Mk 13:1-37; Lk 21:5-36) which speaks about the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD since it is not spoke of in his gospel of John. Scholars point out how the time is short/near in Revelation, and how Revelation speaks of wars and rumors of wars, famines, earthquakes, false Christs, and tribulations just like Jesus told regarding the destruction of the Temple/Jerusalem within that generation in 70AD. It hasn't been until Dispensationalism was introduced in the 1830s that people really started to believe in the later date of Revelation. Even as of 1910, church historian, Philip Schaff, wrote, "The early date is now accepted by perhaps the majority of scholars."
@danielroque02
@danielroque02 5 ай бұрын
Mike, as always, sound teaching. I'm jades also, I do believe in the 2nd coming of Christ (I'm pre-trib) but I agree. People point to these prophecies after the fact. I noticed it as a teenager, the Iraq War. Or worse using the 9/11 attacks to says that was written in scripture. Let's focus on serving God and His kingdom and what is to come will come.
@kimgary5771
@kimgary5771 4 ай бұрын
Amen, I’m so thankful for you and your ministry. I have been feeling this with a particular pastor and his friend in Israel that they preach together sometimes. They have been using current events and all but say the Lord is coming now….
@robinette64
@robinette64 5 ай бұрын
❤ Thank you for this.
@nanoglitch6693
@nanoglitch6693 5 ай бұрын
What bothers me the most about these "end-times enthusiasts" is the way they use "just prophecy being fulfilled" as an excuse to be utterly apathetic to the human suffering that is occurring. Some even express their hype and glee to see it. And of course they want nothing done to actually help people. It's truly sickening.
@theeternalsbeliever1779
@theeternalsbeliever1779 5 ай бұрын
The cause of human suffering is God's laws being violated. Christ coming back means the world will be educated on how to avoid those problems. No one is being apathetic to human suffering. You're idea of solving the problem is slapping a band aid on the problem instead of addressing why it's happening in the first place.
@nanoglitch6693
@nanoglitch6693 5 ай бұрын
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 Let's talk about God's law shall we? Jesus succinctly summarized it saying “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[a]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” What you are advocating violates the latter part of the law and you are trying to justify it claiming that you're just "trying to solve the real problem." But you're also failing to demonstrate God's love to people and being a lousy witness for Christ. Christ always healed FIRST and then instructed repentance. You should read your Bible because it sounds like you REALLY don't know the Christ that you so badly want to come back and you're in danger of the judgement.
@deebee4314
@deebee4314 5 ай бұрын
Indeed Jesus Himself taught us to watch. We [the church] are not in the darkness so that day [of the Lord - Tribulation] should overtake us as a thief in the night. Thief in the night always have a negative connotation. Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near. -Revelation 1:3
@deebee4314
@deebee4314 5 ай бұрын
I'm about the same age as Pastor Mike. I'm very careful who I follow as a Biblical centered pastor/scholar. Dr. Andy Woods happens to be one of the very precious ones; then Pastor Jack Hibbs, Tom Hughes, James Kaddis, Brandon Holthaus, Billy Crone, and Mondo Gonzales.
@jeffmuller1489
@jeffmuller1489 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Mike. I used to love to hear Pastor Chuck's Prophecy Updates on New Year's Eve at CCCM. It was always a special intimate time with the Lord, especially having communion at the start of the New Year while the rest of the world was fleshing out. You're one of the only "Calvary guys" I hear from anymore after Chuck moved to Heaven. I moved away from California and haven't found another Calvary that felt comfortable since. Thanks for being there. ❤
@charlieallansen9763
@charlieallansen9763 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video and well needed. Thank you!
@jonathanwoodward365
@jonathanwoodward365 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for saying this. I'm 26 and the youngest in my family, though we are all out of the house now. But I remember growing up, and after church, my parents put a radio show on on our way home, where it seemed like the person was always trying to make the events of now explain how the prophecy might go down. When you mentioned the blood moon thing, I remembered them talking about that exact thing, and I too feel jaded in the same way. I kinda came to the conclusion of: why are so focused on end times (which Jesus said know one knows the day or the hour) instead of what he said in the great commission. Now that's a little simplified, I know you can still be paying attention since we are given some signs of what it will look like when the end draws near in a general sense like you said, but I'm definitely burned out of when people say they know and it's things like blood moons and such. I think you hit the nail on the head in you video, thank you!
@carolmason8085
@carolmason8085 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Jonathan AND let's go share the Gospel while we still can!
@bobbyrice2858
@bobbyrice2858 5 ай бұрын
Mike falls into the classic pre-millennial dispensational trap of missing exegetical cross-reference between the Tanakh prophets and the New Testament writings of John. He reads plainly rather than actually understanding localized language. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. Revelation 12:4 And some of the host and some of the stars it threw down to the ground and trampled on them. Daniel 8:10 revelation and Daniel used cosmic language for localized destruction. I mean think about it, no one during that time had any concept of the globe itself in a worldly sense, so any reference to the “world“ was a localized event. Therefore, reading plainly or literally is a mistake, especially in light of Torah and Tanakh destruction language. we today, you, me, we tend to read INTO the text our surrounding understandings because “our” world definition is literally the planet. They back then had no concept of planetary affairs. “Their world” was local. The Roman Empire. Matthew 24:15-16 ESV "So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place ( let the reader understand), [16] then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Who flees? Where??? THE WHOLE world? No. Israel. And this happened right before Rome surrounded and destroyed Jerusalem. Luke 21:20 ESV "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. In the writings of Josephus Rome surrounded Jerusalem then turned around temporary early due to false reports that Rome had been seized. During this time the church escaped to the mountains. Mime doesn’t see this because he doesn’t know history beyond scripture.
@CVilla49
@CVilla49 5 ай бұрын
This is a massive issue for me in my church today. I always have pushed back against these claims because people have been making these claims for generations. This is ultimately a failing of evangelical churches, Christians need to look at Church history and really decern what the current times mean. I for one, see no connection between the Biblical Israel and the Israel that was founded in 1948, the old covenant has been fulfilled, it is time for the new covenant. The covenant that Jesus Christ promised to all his believers and the Church he founded 2000 years ago.
@kriegjaeger
@kriegjaeger 5 ай бұрын
See Ezekiel 37.
@eltonron1558
@eltonron1558 5 ай бұрын
The new covenant, is the ten commandments, declared early and often by Christ, written on the heart, verified by several passages in the old testament. For clarity, it is the reason for 1John 2:3-4. It is the eternal law, only first expressed to the Israelites, and blessings, plus sainthood to Christianity that keeps the commandments of God, which by easy observation they do not. Isaiah 66:23. All flesh. Mt. 4:4, 19:17, 22:36-40 Rev. 12:17, 14:12, 22:14. All the way to the end of the Bible, the commandments (new covenant)be.
@CVilla49
@CVilla49 5 ай бұрын
@@kriegjaeger You can't just take one chapter out of the OT and insert it into current times. This is exactly what I mean when I said "Christians need to look at Church history". These events have already taken place hundreds of years ago. I am a firm believer that we are in the Church age, Satan has been subdued so that the spread of Christ's Church can take place, culminating in the second coming of Christ. I am still learning about this myself and strongly recommend reading the early Chruch Father's and what they thought about the times they lived through. God bless you and your walk with Christ.
@FreddyZierau-zv8qx
@FreddyZierau-zv8qx 5 ай бұрын
If that’s the way you see things, then you need to keep studying, because God has promised many many times in the word of God that He would scatter Isreal and bring them back together in the later days. I’m not trying to be mean, but it’s better for you to be silent or say “I don’t know yet, but that’s cause I haven’t read scripture” then to potentially discourage brothers and sisters who are looking for their Messiah
@kriegjaeger
@kriegjaeger 5 ай бұрын
@@CVilla49 I thank you for your compassion Brother, though I urge you to take to the word of the Lord seriously. There is nothing he has written that is useless to anyone.
@danielhaynes2485
@danielhaynes2485 5 ай бұрын
This is one of the best takes I’ve heard on regarding end time prophecy
@phlegmbuoyant
@phlegmbuoyant 5 ай бұрын
As usual, balanced and well said. Thank you Pastor Mike. -I pray you'll Keep trusting God exactly 💯 as you've been doing, for a biblical understanding by study in context, and most of all, His Spirit of Truth providing proper exegesis of the Holy Scriptures.
@stevelenores5637
@stevelenores5637 5 ай бұрын
Headline prophecy. Different day, same jumping to conclusions.
@jabencarter88
@jabencarter88 5 ай бұрын
Hey Mike I appreciate you take a balanced and humble approach when it comes to eschatology. I do have a question. In light of what Ezekiel 38 says and what Psalm 83 says, could the current war in Israel be specifically tied into those passages? Do you even believe that the event’s described in those passages are future events to begin with?
@ChristianRo535
@ChristianRo535 5 ай бұрын
I’m not sure about Ezekiel 38, but Psalm 83 is not prophetic. When you look at the nations mentioned in the Psalm and Asaph being the psalmist it’s just describing 2 Chronicles 20 when these same nations formed an alliance against King Jehosophat
@michaelne
@michaelne 5 ай бұрын
I too have heard it all before many times , and therefore I tend to agree with your comments…. So, this is how I like to look at it…”each day we are closer to the end time and we need to be ready for it to happen at any moment”
@gloriaminix2603
@gloriaminix2603 5 ай бұрын
Well we are commanded to watch. If we as fallen humans get overly excited and think now is the time.especially since never before have things been global; I think in my heart they would be forgiven. Watching always
@NewCreationInChrist896
@NewCreationInChrist896 5 ай бұрын
Hosea 6:2 👑 “After two days He will revive us; On the third day He will raise us up, That we may live in His sight.” 2 Peter 3:8 “But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” 1 Thessalonians 5:4 🕊️ “But you aren’t in the dark about these things, dear brothers and sisters, and you won’t be surprised when the day of the Lord comes like a thief;”
@bobbyrice2858
@bobbyrice2858 5 ай бұрын
Mike falls into the classic pre-millennial dispensational trap of missing exegetical cross-reference between the Tanakh prophets and the New Testament writings of John. He reads plainly rather than actually understanding localized language. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. Revelation 12:4 And some of the host and some of the stars it threw down to the ground and trampled on them. Daniel 8:10 revelation and Daniel used cosmic language for localized destruction. I mean think about it, no one during that time had any concept of the globe itself in a worldly sense, so any reference to the “world“ was a localized event. Therefore, reading plainly or literally is a mistake, especially in light of Torah and Tanakh destruction language. we today, you, me, we tend to read INTO the text our surrounding understandings because “our” world definition is literally the planet. They back then had no concept of planetary affairs. “Their world” was local. The Roman Empire. Matthew 24:15-16 ESV "So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place ( let the reader understand), [16] then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Who flees? Where??? THE WHOLE world? No. Israel. And this happened right before Rome surrounded and destroyed Jerusalem. Luke 21:20 ESV "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. In the writings of Josephus Rome surrounded Jerusalem then turned around temporary early due to false reports that Rome had been seized. During this time the church escaped to the mountains. Mike doesn’t see this because he doesn’t know history beyond scripture.
@robertkauffman8137
@robertkauffman8137 5 ай бұрын
I don't see how this war is the Psalm 83 war. At least not yet. I agree with you that I am jaded from all of the trying to jam things into this lifetime. Some say it is going to happen where ALL of Israels neighbors attack them. So, yeah, right on!
@kriegjaeger
@kriegjaeger 5 ай бұрын
Check Ezekiel 37, we are blessed to be living after the prophesied return of Israel though most don't even acknowledge or maybe just don't know this. 38 is the Gog Magog war, which seems to be Europe and Middle East forming a huge army to attack Israel. What's odd are the descriptions of weapons, Swords, bucklers, shields, helmets, bows and arrows. If literal, it doesn't make sense. I'm hesitant to try to bring the vagueness of Hebrew into the argument or completely spiritualiualize something so specific.
@TheUnknownScholar777
@TheUnknownScholar777 5 ай бұрын
Look up the hasmonean revolt and usurping of the second temple. Psalm 83 already occurred back around 140 bc
@TheUnknownScholar777
@TheUnknownScholar777 5 ай бұрын
Least that's what I believe yah bless
@robertkauffman8137
@robertkauffman8137 5 ай бұрын
When were the two witnesses seen by the whole world? when was the oceans fouled betond life? etc. etc.@@TheUnknownScholar777
@theeternalsbeliever1779
@theeternalsbeliever1779 5 ай бұрын
@@TheUnknownScholar777 That's false, and there are at least 3 reasons why: (1) Psa. 83 is a CONSPIRACY against Israel, not a war. (2) This alliance has never been formed in history up to this time (3) Verse 8 says Germany will lead this Arab conspiracy against Israel.
@Rosie-uf5ox
@Rosie-uf5ox 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, Mike.
@robfiore1503
@robfiore1503 5 ай бұрын
Mike, videos like this is why I love you.
@lynnjamesallen1171
@lynnjamesallen1171 5 ай бұрын
One word that changes everything from past predictions.......technology.
@TommyNitro
@TommyNitro 5 ай бұрын
Yes. The final beast system is unlike any of the rest. I think that will be due to technology, specifically ai.
@kriegjaeger
@kriegjaeger 5 ай бұрын
A bit of a thorn in my side regarding the Ezekiel 38 Gog Magog prophecy, the weapons and technology used are archiac. The events and timeframe seem pre-mellenial but neither has it happened yet.
@FreddyZierau-zv8qx
@FreddyZierau-zv8qx 5 ай бұрын
@@kriegjaeger Chuck Missler did a message on that chapter that broke down the actual Hebrew meanings and how they could translate into missles or tanks, it was pretty interesting.
@TommyNitro
@TommyNitro 5 ай бұрын
What else was the writer supposed to use? He had only knowledge of what his era's weapons@@kriegjaeger
@kriegjaeger
@kriegjaeger 5 ай бұрын
@@FreddyZierau-zv8qx I had just started to poke into the Hebrew meanings but that does open a whole can of worms once we start questioning translations. I think God made the impression he wanted to. Though we may not understanding it right.
@heathershanks7852
@heathershanks7852 5 ай бұрын
The main thing I keep in mind is technology. Without the global, digital net that we have created there can be no global government, global currency, or global religion. So, up to only a few years ago anyone could say, with high confidence, that we couldn't say whether the "end times" were close. Now? Well? The "beast system" is in place. I, too, lived through the mania of the 80's mania for prophecy, as a child. Most people I knew were all in. I, too, got jaded. But the covid times, the business with the UN, WHO, WEF, etc., has reawoken my interest in the topic. Jesus said the season can be read, yes?
@Window4503
@Window4503 5 ай бұрын
Here’s a twister for you: Why is the beast and his army on horses when they try to attack Jesus? These can’t be metaphors for tanks and modern war weapons because God didn’t say the horses were symbolic and because birds actually eat the horses’ corpses. Furthermore, today’s atheists would have to be deceived into worshiping stone and metal. They can barely stand anything spiritual now so how are they convinced? Stuff to consider.
@Sledg0matic
@Sledg0matic 5 ай бұрын
@@Window4503 Atheists are just as superstitious as any pagan, they just use different terms.
@SeekTheCross
@SeekTheCross 5 ай бұрын
Glory to God for this video, Lord bless you brother Mike.
@trevorkinman1946
@trevorkinman1946 5 ай бұрын
Wow I love being idealist amil; all of these issues just melt away and the meanings become a lot more clear
@jolookstothestars6358
@jolookstothestars6358 5 ай бұрын
And what about this new climate meeting in Dubai? They are putting together a 7 year peace treaty and calling the Pope the prophet.We definitely don't know when but we're supposed to know The Times and the season.
@kriegjaeger
@kriegjaeger 5 ай бұрын
I would say the more clear indication is the increase in scoffers and decline of the church. God saved the only people worth saving and brought the flood. God saved the only people worth saving and brought fire on Sodom and Gamorrah. I expect God will save those worth saving and when there is no one left on his earth but those deserving of his wrath, it will come.
@FreddyZierau-zv8qx
@FreddyZierau-zv8qx 5 ай бұрын
Yep, the majority of people have their blinders on, eating and drinking, and getting married…wow just like the Bible said! Lol
@FreddyZierau-zv8qx
@FreddyZierau-zv8qx 5 ай бұрын
@@rxvyy where does it say that in Revelation 17?
@FreddyZierau-zv8qx
@FreddyZierau-zv8qx 5 ай бұрын
@@rxvyy i don’t see it that way, maybe, but I wouldn’t say it with 100% certainty. I’m pretty sure mystery Babylon refers to the freemason structure worldwide who are going to be judged for their sorcery, maybe even america, but I wouldn’t say it like you know this for sure
@user-iy9bv5zx4x
@user-iy9bv5zx4x 5 ай бұрын
LET'S NOT GET CRAZY ABOUT THE CURRENT EVENTS, LET'S BE PREPARED AND WATCH. I HOPE CHRIST WOULD COME TODAY.
@NeilEvans-xq8ik
@NeilEvans-xq8ik 5 ай бұрын
Love God, neighbour, stranger and enemy.
@TheIcanntspel
@TheIcanntspel 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for not losing your head along with most of our fellow Charismatics.
@alexanderstauber
@alexanderstauber 5 ай бұрын
I agree with you still i would say we are getting pretty near to the end times. 1. "He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed." We now do have speaking images and also AI, which might be the breath. 2. We all have our money on banks, if someone freezes your bank account you can not buy nor sell. Also society is more and more cashless. 3. Israel is a state again after over 2000 years. Sure we maybe can't say if specific events are fulfilled prophecy but more and more requirements are present now.
@ninagrace-lee8323
@ninagrace-lee8323 5 ай бұрын
Yeah things are lining up more now post-Covid than they have the entire time I’ve been a Christian. Truthfully all it would take is a major crisis in America to cripple the global financial system and usher in the antichrist. Convinced that would be any day now…don’t think I could’ve said that at any other point in time
@kaceyharms3135
@kaceyharms3135 5 ай бұрын
I’m not sure if I agree or disagree with Mike on this one. What I do know though is that it’s equally wrong to look at current event and say “meh… this has happened in the past too!” And thus ignore the urgency of the times. We are not to fear in times like these. We are to be waiting expectantly for Christs return actively doing his work on this planet. But also being fully aware that the time is drawing near. And what I mean by that is every day is closer to Christs return. Tomorrow or 60/100/200 years from now is one day closer. It’s natural for us to deeply desire his return but also not be alarmists. I also think that we as(non Jewish) North Americans have a very narrow understanding and perspective of what’s going in the Middle East. I trust the perspectives of believing Jews sitting in the middle of this chaos. If they are looking skyward for Christs return I would take heed and not be apathetic in our approach to end times prophecy.
@ta2505
@ta2505 5 ай бұрын
Well put.
@JesusIsWithYouNowPrayToHim
@JesusIsWithYouNowPrayToHim 5 ай бұрын
Great teaching❤❤
@midimusicforever
@midimusicforever 5 ай бұрын
Right on!
@bridget1873
@bridget1873 5 ай бұрын
Mike, I appreciate your teaching, but please consider that all Jesus warned us about is happening simultaneously, and that is one of the keys. Plus technology is advanced to a point now where everyone in the world can see everything happening as it happens. There has never been a time like this in history. Although none of us knows the day or hour, we are supposed to encourage one another as we see the day approaching. It makes me sad to hear you DIScourage believers. Please head back to scripture and seek God on this before you end up sinning by discouraging your brothers and sisters in Christ. We ARE supposed to be looking up because our redemption IS drawing near. Love you, brother.
@benjaminnelson1014
@benjaminnelson1014 5 ай бұрын
Very fair! I will just say that I think we need to guard against becoming too jaded toward eschatology considering how much real estate in scripture is given to it. I would also say that we are perhaps within our right to look carefully at events happening in the state of Israel, the existence of which is arguably a precursor to many other prophecies, and has only been in existence effectively within our lifetime.
@philippbrogli779
@philippbrogli779 5 ай бұрын
I might go a bit too far into the other direction. But when it comes to the end times I only care about two Bible verses. The prophecies are prepared in the Bible, but sealed until the day is right and Jesus will come back with a flash of lightning. Anything else is speculation on our part that God himself said we cannot know until he reveals it to us. I personally find it more interesting to find out how God created the world and how other people view the world. But this is not necessarily a better topic to think about. Unless it is helpful to contribute to the kingdom of God. Daniel 12:9-10 He said, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are shut up and sealed until the time of the end. Many shall purify themselves and make themselves white and be refined, but the wicked shall act wickedly. And none of the wicked shall understand, but those who are wise shall understand. Luke 17:22-24 And he said to the disciples, “The days are coming when you will desire to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see it. And they will say to you, ‘Look, there!’ or ‘Look, here!’ Do not go out or follow them. For as the lightning flashes and lights up the sky from one side to the other, so will the Son of Man be in his day.
@bassmanjr100
@bassmanjr100 5 ай бұрын
💯 an enormous amount of the Bible is prophetic. Revelation 1:3. How often does your church study in Revelation. A book that says it is a blessing to read aloud the words of this prophecy.
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