Pros and Cons of Living in Bozeman Montana

[@HarrisGroupMT]

What's on your list of pros and cons of living in Bozeman?

[@Myspiritualrhythm]

ICE. Lol. Why is there six inches of ice under the snow? I counted four people in casts, 7 car/truck accidents in TWO DAYS!! I've lived in many states and most people wake up and salt, shovel at 5am especially the businesses! I guess that's what happens when you don't have sales taxes? I've lived in some ultra intense snow fall areas where people take a little bit more responsibility. Buying a four wheel drive Subraru won't save you. Half of those accidents were Subarus.

[@Myspiritualrhythm]

Also why are there so FEW trails when you have so MUCH land? You have around 4000 miles of trail? Colorado has like 75,000. East coast states have about 12,000 on average. This is the most disappointing part of Bozeman.

[@robtibbs3676]

So I happen to be a person of color. I am not sure Montana would be a good place to raise a family. Your thoughts?

[@HarrisGroupMT]

MT is a great place to raise a family regardless of race. People care about your character here, not your skin color.

[@thefishstick]

On top of spiteful locals you have to deal with the homeless. There are so many now which has brought an increase in fentanyl trafficking. The White Pride groups here are an issue they wont tell you about and completely deny.

[@MaryOlson7]

Nobody can become financially successful over night. They put in background work but we tend to see the finished part. Fear is a dangerous component, hindering us from taking bold steps we need in other to reach our goals.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Very true

[@Sceptis]

"You don't have to worry about stepping on a needle in the park..." As a native to Portland OR, that hit home.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Unfortunately there are too many places that you have to worry about stuff like that. I'm glad to not live in one of those places.

[@moosespeak6140]

Con to that is there's just as much meth here as Portland, better move back

[@FullyYoked]

One of the reasons it safe is because everyone has a gun!! You don't try to break into a home in Montana...

[@HarrisGroupMT]

There is a lot of truth to your statement

[@kcbates1761]

Awesome video man. Refreshing to see an agent not sugar coat everything and actually present people with some legit cons in an honest way.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Thanks KC. I'm glad you enjoyed it

[@danoc51]

You didn't mention Gallatin Canyon which was my favorite part when growing up in Bozeman (I fished there many summer days). Things are nice over on the Madison, as well. I graduated MSU and, attracted by bright lights, big city, girls and economic opportunity, I beat a path to California and got there before my graduation ceremony took place. I have no regrets as California has been very generous to me and the weather is great. Many people I meet have never been to Montana...I tell them it is a great place to visit during the months of July and August. Other than that time you take your chances although beautiful fall (September) days in Bozeman are magical. It is easy to be seduced by Montana when the weather is good. Visit during the winter months before you migrate. Not only does it get cold but the days are very short...I remember it turning dark at about 3:30 to 4:00 in the afternoon. And driving on snow and ice is a pain, and cold weather is always a battle. Bozeman was a very simple, safe and intimate small town when I grew up in the 50's and 60's. Most people were in the same economic strata (not poor, not wealthy) and MSU provided good sports entertainment.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Gallatin Canyon is definitely a pro to living here. Such a beautiful drive and some amazing fishing. You make a lot of good points and I hope people listen to your advice. Some people love the winter, some people hate it. Thanks for your comment. There is a lot of good ideas in here for future videos.

[@welcometogoodburgerhomeoft4766]

The US in 50 years: “Lots of people are moving here to Mississippi because of its affordability but prices are skyrocketing with the increase of tech companies and Californians moving here” Where TF is anybody going to be able to afford to live

[@gadfanad]

So true. I live in Alabama, and it's pretty incredible to see how cheap Gulf front property still is in MS. Won't last long.

[@NightOfCrystals]

Seriously. Mississippi, West Virginia, and other rural southern spots will eventually be this way. I’m in Portland, Maine, and most neighborhoods already have Boston prices (the economy doesn’t support it.)

[@michaelsuzio4268]

​@@gadfanadcar I live in/out of my car I use a storage facility for alot of my stuff and get around the country quite a bit

[@jamesburnette4120]

Hear most native Montanans call Bozeman Bozangeles, with people coming in from California I don't doubt it.

[@yomamapwnz]

That’s good more diversity

[@dilly_bones2147]

How do you think the "native Montanans" ancestor's settled into Montana?

[@slatsgrobneck7515]

@@yomamapwnz Actually no, not good. We don't want Cali values here because we embrace our own set of MT values - which bring many of the pros he listed. And there is getting to be some backlash to what Boz is doing. And not just at the state level - it is well know that there is a lot of friction between the city and the county.

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

@@yomamapwnz Nope. Go back to Commiefornia.

[@nick8243]

Good. Turn Montana blue. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@adamvose2651]

Grateful to see such an honest look at the city when I'm ready to move id love to have them as a real estate agent

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Thanks Adam. We would love to help you. Let us know if there is anything we can do in the meantime.

[@JS-qi1ou]

Living in Montana was something that was awesome up until the last decade, seems like Californians are moving here in droves especially where I live in Kalispell. I might as well just sell my home and move to Wyoming, atleast there the Californians only ever try and move to Teton County.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Not sure it ever stopped being awesome. Lots of growth and change happening for sure though.

[@slatsgrobneck7515]

True that. Nothing worse than the Californians that move here to get what we have - then tell us we are wrong because - 'this is how we do that in California'. good grief

[@JS-qi1ou]

@@slatsgrobneck7515 yeah Cali is the dirty 4 letter word in our area, they are completely pricing everyone out of the area in homes and land, so I'm glad when I see locals all start purchasing land around town to stop expansion.

[@johnsack6819]

I think Californians are great. They bring in alot of revenue

[@jairorivas2041]

@@slatsgrobneck7515 facts they are destroying Texas

[@al-du6lb]

Look at European mountain towns. They are amazing because they are made for people not cars.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

European mountain towns are so cool. Way different from Bozeman

[@shofan70]

Enjoy it while you can, once big corporations start settling in all your pros will go away and say hello to taxes and overpricing, crowding and crime.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

We're all doomed!

[@henryfitch8710]

Thanks for this. I'll be coming to Bozeman from the UK in just over a month as a tourist. Is there a bus service to Bozeman Hot Springs?

[@HarrisGroupMT]

The bus does not run to the Bozeman Hot Springs. Uber or Lift would be your best bet. I would recommend renting a car though if you can. There is a lot of stuff to see that will be easier either a car. Also check out the Streamline Bus

[@henryfitch8710]

Many thanks for your prompt reply. I'll probably take a taxi as I won't be driving in the USA.

[@michaelmcbride9549]

The MSU campus looks amazing in your video. 😮

[@HarrisGroupMT]

It's a beautiful campus with a nice center mall area

[@milomirkrunic5971]

Is there any SKI RESORT in Bozeman?

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Yes. We have Bridger Bowl that is 16 miles from downtown and Big Sky that is an hour away to the south.

[@amantedelmondo1787]

Is it true that Bozeman averages 300 days of sunshine?

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Honestly I have no idea. We are a fairly dry climate and have sunny days mote often than not. The Google says 300 on average. It seems like that's probably true.

[@nORthwestBEAV]

What’s the rent situation like in Bozeman? I’m a teacher in Oregon looking to move out of state.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

The rental market is very competitive but it is obtainable. Rent isn't cheap but you can find some reasonable deals especially if you are willing to live in the Belgrade area.

[@matt1315s]

Last I heard it was about 2k a month. Which is pretty crazy. I moved to Bozeman in 2015 and moved away in 2018. The first apt I got in Bozeman I was only paying 1150 a month for a 2 bedroom which I thought was awesome at the time. Beautiful town, but it is expensive.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Rent is definitely crazy in Bozeman. It's typically cheaper to buy if you can.

[@sounddoctorin]

might want to read my experience above in comments

[@svetlanakarpenko234]

Thank you for the truthful information.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

My pleasure

[@MtnSnowflake]

Been here 18 years and just know that Montana is a RED state and we want to keep it that way. If you aren't conservative, learn to adapt to conservative ways or don't come.

[@djpak1]

this guy kept it real. nice.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Glad you enjoy it

[@al-du6lb]

Dude, not having chain restaurants is a plus.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Depends on the restaurant I suppose.

[@goofsaddggkle7351]

@@HarrisGroupMT Glad I know what real estate group you represent - sound like the type that uses communities and then moves off when they’ve sucked them dry.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Bozeman is my home. We aren't going anywhere. Not sure what you're referring to.

[@georgewashington7374]

Very good presentation. Bozeman is on my short list of places to retire.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

The Bozeman area is a pretty popular area to retire. Send us an email. We would love to chat more with you. [e-mail]

[@Goatfan05]

Great video thank you!

[@HarrisGroupMT]

I'm glad you l Iiked it

[@vacaspen4787]

60degrees is cold fall weather

[@therealtashiro]

Great Video!

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Thanks Sean. What pro or con was your favorite?

[@chetzaiko511]

You had better upgrade your video. After living in the Gallatin Valley just outside of Gallatin Gateway for 45 years, there is one pro that I went for. THE ROADS OUT. Traffic is miserable with so many impatient drivers. Too many seem to be in a hurry and also have no manners. No more pickups with Montana mud flaps being driven by a cowboy. It's BMW's, Mercedes and Land Rovers. Guess these newbies are trying to impress each other because all locals see are newcomers that are acting like they were still in their big cities. The cost of housing has gone up dramatically since this video. The average home price is now in the 900K range. People who were born and raised here can not only afford a home here, but also the rent. My son and his wife who were both born and raised here are in the process of moving to another part of the state so they can give their young son what they had growing up in the Bozeman area. He makes a well above average salary for Montana and is barely getting by. Being single now, I sold my home as it was getting difficult to maintain a 2 acre property and a 3,200 sq foot home. My kids wanted me to rent here but a decent apartment is over $2,000 a month and most places will not allow pets. I moved to the town that my son will be moving to in the northwest part of the state. Population is under 3,000 and it reminds me of how Bozeman was when I returned after spending time in the service. It resembles what Montana really is. Bozeman sure doesn't. The only thing I miss are my friends. I am SO HAPPY TO HAVE LEFT THE AREA.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Thank you for your contribution. Bozeman is growing crazy fast and I do have an update for this video planned. Unfortunately I don't see Bozeman's growth slowing down any time soon. In fact, I expect the growth to speed up. There are some real challenges ahead. The price of housing being one of the biggest. I hear these same stories of people being priced out of Bozeman on a regular basis and it sucks. As someone that was looking for my next home in Bozeman for over two years I understand the struggle and sympathize with it. I'm glad you found an area of Montana that feels more like home. Where did you end up? Thanks for watching.

[@chetzaiko511]

@@HarrisGroupMT Moved to Libby. No university, no airport and no interstate. The closest Montana city, Kalispell, is 90 miles away. This town reminds me how Bozeman was when I returned there 45 years ago. Bozeman is no longer like Montana.

[@davidemge4799]

I live in havre, north central Montana and it’s starting to grow up here too house has gone up almost 50% in the last decade and we just hate to here how many Californians are moving up here.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

The only thing constant in life is change

[@chetzaiko511]

@@HarrisGroupMT Bozeman used to be a great place. Your coning to town in 2007 puts you as a newcomer in my eyes. I RETURNED in 1976 and Bozeman had a great small town feeling. Developers have ruined the valley as far as I am concerned. You didn't know how great Bozeman was and it's people like you promoting how great it is that have helped the area become over crowded and driven up home prices. Again, I am so happy that I have found a great small Montana town without the congestion that has ruined the valley.

[@MT-xs4fu]

I vood like to live in Montana. Do you tink de vood let me live in Montana?

[@HarrisGroupMT]

🧐

[@GoDaveGo]

Only if you get a pickup truck and a fat wife

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Phat

[@CJ_Walks]

@@HarrisGroupMT lol I have nothing to do with Montana but from this video I learned the kind of Real Estate agent I want.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Thank you. So kind. I have connections to awesome agents all over the US and Canada if you need an introduction. Shoot me an email if you need a good agent. [e-mail]

[@alexmalm6406]

He talking about it cold in Bozeman in the winter. I’m in North Dakota. He doesn’t know what cold is.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

There is definitely worse winters out there.

[@Tippy2forU]

It wasn't too bad in Billings. The weather in Billings is nicer than other places in Montana.

[@ericmattinen4728]

More snow, same cold, less wind...same 6+ months of misery...lol

[@DesertTunezAZ]

I feel like a lot of this was true but also lack of diversity was also a big thing for me as a person of color, I was devastated to see a lack of mixed culture here. (Update: I was not shocked by this in anyway, I knew this already. I just thought others should know who have not traveled out to these parts but since so many people are upset about me trying to let other people know, this just goes to show why there is not a mixed culture here. Great for visiting not living.)

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Montana is definitely not the most diverse state in the country. It is becoming more diverse though. Slowly but surely.

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

Then go somewhere else.

[@DesertTunezAZ]

It was just an observation, the fact that people are upset about me trying to let others know, is what's wrong with Montana, I'm not there anymore, it was just something I wanted to point out to others who haven't traveled out that way. Stay safe and God bless 🙌

[@goofsaddggkle7351]

@@DesertTunezAZ Is China diverse? Does that make Chinese people racist? That is what is wrong with you.

[@DesertTunezAZ]

@@goofsaddggkle7351Thank you for taking your valuable time to respond. God bless you 🙏

[@thewalkingdead1215]

This is pretty neat

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Thanks Sergei. What do you like about Bozeman?

[@khloetv101]

Amazing video

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Thanks Khloe. Do you live in Bozeman?

[@flyrobroy]

Awesome video Kyler - nice job all around!

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Thanks Rob

[@stevenwagner983]

GO CATS!! if I found a job wouldn't hesitate to move back to boze! MSU alum

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Lots of companies hiring.

[@stevejohnson6923]

You say it's not overly crowded that's a matter of opinion

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Yeah? Well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

[@rugman66]

Left leaning. Not someone that is just commenting, but visited. If that is good with you then cheers

[@rugman66]

@Tacra The Nomad Ah, a cheap shot at rural America. Your much too quick witted for the rubes in Montana. Just stay were you are to bask in your greatness.

[@varnaalle9824]

Clean and quality video, thank you

[@HarrisGroupMT]

I'm glad you enjoyed it Varna. Do you live in Bozeman? What is your favorite and least favorite things about Bozeman?

[@davidemge4799]

You didn’t mention the spike of homeless and that people are literally living in cars. I’m there every other weekend and the fairgrounds is full.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

This video was made over a year ago. That has definitely been happening more often since then. While there is an increase in homelessness, Bozeman is not overrun with homeless people by any means.

[@stevejohnson6923]

You say it's not overcrowded you should have been here in the 80s it's way crowded now

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Man you should have seen it in the 1600's the 80's were packed compared to then.

[@jjsc4396]

This is an a trussed-up as a "pro and con", full stop. What else would you expect from a real estate agent?

[@HarrisGroupMT]

What is on your pros and cons list? 🤔

[@nickschrunk]

Cons - driving on 19th, no Chik-Fil-A, costly housing

[@HarrisGroupMT]

No Chik-Fil-A is definitely a con. Kalispell got one so hopefully it's in the works for Bozeman. Would love cheaper housing too.

[@Tippy2forU]

One is coming to Billings and the rent is slightly cheaper there.

[@vacaspen4787]

cant drive👎dry desert that can be exxfreme freezing to a desert sauna is perfect.

[@nigelrequiem]

Im thinking of moving to Montana from the UK in the future,it looks a beautiful place just what i like :)

[@HarrisGroupMT]

I have lived here my whole life and I am still in awe of Montana's beauty. Let us know if we can help you in any way.

[@nigelrequiem]

@@HarrisGroupMT :I will do and thnx for the offer.

[@George-dk5mw]

cons - mainstreet used to be fun and people were actually on the sidewalks and hanging out in the 90s....but that was killed with all of the cheap strip malls. pros - its nice to visit family but glad i live in nyc now lol

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Too many people in NYC for me. Downtown Bozeman is still a good hangout. Lots of people Downtown. There aren't any strip malls Downtown. Lots of mom and pop shops.

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

NYC is garbage lol. Hope you're enjoying AOC.

[@zenaolek436]

NYC seems too crowded. But cool if you like it there.

[@iowa_lot_to_travel9471]

Lack of high paying jobs and out of reach rent

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Definitely a challenge of living here.

[@jellybelly111]

why the fuck is housing so much if there are so little opportunities is what I'm trying to understand

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Supply and demand is the biggest issue. More people want to live here than there are houses to live in. There is a lot of outside money coming in as well. There are opportunities to earn a good living here but for low to mid income earners, housing is a challenge.

[@pacisablo]

You just said no jobs, so why the hell are the houses 600k ? Sounds restarted

[@HarrisGroupMT]

There is a lot of outside money coming into this market. Supply and demand has driven the home prices up.

[@Tippy2forU]

It's a resort town as well. Yellowstone and multiple ski resorts in driving distance will drive the rates up like Telluride.

[@cornbob221]

Bozeman isn’t crowded😂😂😂

[@williambrower3704]

It's called greed everyone wants that dollar bill

[@colesimcox6267]

Video is horrible my guy, ur trying to boost your career by making Bozeman sound better than it is. We don’t want people here and it is overcrowded. Of course the mountains aren’t because we have millions and millions of acres to recreate.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

Seems like you choose to live here. If it's not that good and it is overcrowded then you can leave and make room of someone else.

[@goofsaddggkle7351]

@@HarrisGroupMT lol just keep digging that hole 😂

[@HarrisGroupMT]

If you say so

[@maxlemke9.5]

Gentrified af

[@mac76311]

If only the left wingers would stay out

[@Nahulanham]

Rip off real estate prices when there's all kinds of cheap land.

[@HarrisGroupMT]

If you know of some cheap land, you should buy it.