Orthodox Christianity for Beginners - Jonathan Pageau

[@ProtectingVeil]

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[@jakec2009]

I went to my first Orthodox service last week. I felt a deep connection and reverence to God. I have decided that I will pursue conversion.

[@ProtectingVeil]

Godspeed...hang on tight!

[@kevincourtney7312]

It feels very religious.

[@jakec2009]

@@ProtectingVeil experiencing very serious spiritual attacks like near fatal accident. Is that normal lol

[@alexavgeris5620]

@@jakec2009 The deeper your spiritual life gets and the brighter that your soul burns, evil will flock to you like flies attracted to light. But there is nothing to fear. The only power they have is the fear that you give them. Trust in God, pray for His protection. Ask the Mother of God and the saints for their intercessions and always seek the counsel and blessing of the priests. Doing so will drive away anything and anyone that would dare to attack you.

[@johnsteiner2960]

Divine Liturgy not service. May God bless you.

[@tubalcain6874]

I turned 65 in March, and later in life, I left the evangelical Protestantism of my birth, converted to Orthodoxy, and never looked back. Orthodoxy is not for the faint of heart or for the church hopper (grew up like this). I love the church.

[@ntlearning]

Tubal Cain? Like from the line of Cain?

[@tubalcain6874]

@@ntlearning no, like the father of metalworkers, Genesis 4:22. I’m a Metallurgist by trade.

[@ntlearning]

@@tubalcain6874 👍

[@br.m]

@@tubalcain6874 Church hoppers are not Christians. People who church hope are not ready. If eastern orthodoxy keeps you out of trouble that's great. Some people need the rituals and superstiton. Usually ending up in eastern orthodoxy, catholicism, seventh day adventist, Jehovah's witness or Islam but actual Christianity is definitely the only option for salvation though.

[@jankeemunkey7739]

@@br.m asking to understand for myself and come from a place of reverence and respect, could you describe what traits Christianity has that those sects are missing? I noticed for example Mormonism wasn't in the list but is similar. Much love and peace

[@ienjoyapples]

I was baptized last month on Holy Saturday. Joining the Church is truly a transformative experience. I am such a different man than I was a year ago when I became a catechumen, and yet I still have so far to go.

[@tallmikbcroft6937]

thank you for sharing. you encourage me.

[@Handicappedhandicappers]

Same!

[@Subeffulgent]

Good for you may God bless you and your family

[@patrick9876]

Glory to God!!☦️ Welcome home!

[@learn-about-God]

Does it feel different to worship graven images and pray to some Queen of Heaven goddess? Disobey Christ and the Apostles? Calling you priests "Father" like Jesus rebuked the Pharisees and Scribes for? I can elaborate if needed. I'm sorry you got beguiled into a false apostate church.

[@crowlikemadness]

Traditional Latin Mass Catholic, after attending the Byzantine Catholic church for nearly 2 years, I felt pulled to the Orthodox church. Currently attending an Orthodox church and I plan to convert to the Orthodox faith.

[@LukeLendrum]

Why?

[@r.m5883]

Yikes

[@BelaMadeira]

Why convert from the Tridentine Mass?

[@sarahflynn924]

I think I am on same path

[@martinkent333]

BRAINWASHING IS GOOD - NO MATTER WHAT CHRISTIAN CULT OWNS YOU, SMOKEY. HOW EDUCATED ARE YOU? HEBREW MYTHS BECOME REAL AND THE HANDBOOK WITH TALKING ANIMALS BECOMES TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HALLELLUJAH!!!!!!!!!

[@LCx829]

Great video. I was born into Orthodox Christianity as an Armenian. I feel a strong connection to not only my culture but to the church. When my mom was sick in hospital and the priest came to the hospital and blessed her. My mom is now at home doing well so we are so grateful we have our church’s faith.

[@Eve90]

Amen!!

[@zdravzivot3016]

I explored all kinds of religions,denominations,spiritulaity.I searched for years and in Ortodox Christianity i find my home!!Glory to Christ!!!

[@ProtectingVeil]

Glory to God! Welcome home!

[@laurac5451]

me too

[@megak1llah]

Me 3 hahaha

[@TingTingalingy]

@@zdravzivot3016 I want to believe you, but why didn't I?

[@zdravzivot3016]

@@TingTingalingy Can you make more clear what do you want to say.

[@malindsell]

My journey to orthodoxy began 27 years ago. It has been a long process, out of Protestantism and a deep sense of dissatisfaction with what many churches are offering today. I longed for a place of worship where God was worshipped in reverence and awe, for His own sake, not with a cup of coffee in one hand and your feet up on the altar rail. Where Jesus Christ is truly Lord such that His life truly impacts my life. Having sifted through many of my own arguments I conclude that the little Orthodox Church 6 miles from me (there are very, very few here in England - so I am blessed) is where I can at last rest my hungry spirit and bow my head in worship of Jesus Christ with a sense of wonder, joy, reality and mystery. The orthodox faithful who meet there come mainly from Greece and Eastern Europe but, thanks be to God, also my own English countrymen. One thing I notice, though, that might be an issue - it sometimes looks as if it is orthodoxy itself that is worshipped, rather than Christ Himself! So much chat about “orthodox this” and “orthodox that” - a focus upon orthodoxy rather than (as it appears to me) Christ Himself and living for Him. I may be entirely wrong. I hope I am. But it is a danger. Finally I should add what an intense blessing it is for me to have such a godly monk as our priest who has a wonderful spiritual heritage. I am a retired Protestant pastor myself but coming to orthodoxy showed me how little I really knew and how patient God has been with me all this time! Glory to God for all things!

[@eyesee9715]

“Worshipping orthodoxy” would be unOrthodox. Orthodox Christianity means belief in the true Christ of God, the One Who Is, and worshipping Him, glorifying Him, joining with Him, joining Him.

[@eyesee9715]

As you know

[@JasonGeorgiouGaming]

Dear Mark, I thank the Lord that out Church is growing and that it can heal the souls of all people everywhere in the world. Your observation is not necessarily untrue, but perhaps it is not the whole truth. Forgive me if I am trespassing but I would like to offer my view on this. The reason you might be hearing a lot of rhetoric in that way is because, we Orthodox, have been fighting for our faith against heresy since day one of the Church. We do know that Holy Tradition (as in the faith that is being passed from one generation to the next and the living Church) is what keeps the Church alive and vice versa. The Scriptures, its interpretations, the mysteries (sacraments...) are all tied in one. Obviously, it would be idolatry to worship the typos (canon / formalities / rituals) rather than God, but for the one who lives Orthodoxy, the typos is what contains the ousia (essence). That is, it is what permits to live next to God, and maintain pure the feeling of spirituality you and I and all Orthodox Christians have been blessed with to experience. In conclusion I would just say: try to excuse your brothers who might not know the best way to express their conscience, and remember that we are all struggling in this world. Amen and peace be with you.

[@malindsell]

@@JasonGeorgiouGaming Thank you so much for your insightful comments. They are much appreciated and I suppose I am just anxious that what I see and hear is not misleading. I know from experience how easy it is to take one’s eyes off of our glorious Saviour and turn to method rather than to God. Indeed I love my new orthodox brothers and sisters and they have been so generous in their love and welcome. I need to see Christ in them, rather than potential faults! Thank you for the gracious correction you have given to me!

[@JasonGeorgiouGaming]

@@malindsell Understandable my dear brother. You have alsο helped me realise that the way we treat our faith is essential, we need to distinguish between our rituals, which are only means, and our goal which is worshipping God. May your spiritual struggle lead you to paradise!

[@mourningdovefilms]

"[...] Orthodoxy brings us back to the Poem." Absolutely brilliant.

[@frankherbert6476]

Yea that was pretty profound.

[@ViguLiviu]

To what Poem I dont know, it brings you back to tradition and it does create a dialog with the past, but it's not a dialog in which you can say well maybe in this specific situation it doesn't apply, unless that's an opinion of the church at the higher level. There is both beauty and hardship, but SOMETIMES the opposition of change even in some minor aspects is much more based on the authority of tradition than the actual intelectual arguing of people.

[@MorallyResponsible]

Quran says Allah is “Al-Ahad”(one/indivisible).Deductively, It is impossible for perfection to have parts. I have read both the old testament and new testament and textually they scream oneness of Allah. So, then why believe in trinity and associate two imaginary parts to Allah(one/indivisible/self-sufficient/all-loving)?

[@frankherbert6476]

@@MorallyResponsible A few things to think on....1st, Orthodox see viewing faith apophatically, or negatively. This means we understand God through His revelation to us. We don't use our intellect to come up with new ideas, turning the faith into a legalistic if/then philosophy, where doctrine can develop and change over time. It also means that in this revelation is in fact communion, participation. Genesis..."Let Us make mankind in Our image, according to Our likeness"...Our, not My. " Then it say "He saw..." contradiction? Earlier it mentioned "The Spirit of the Lord moved over.." Jewish theologians well before the time of Christ, saw this as a part of God, not an action of a different entity such as an Angel. When you see a tree, you see singular, but you also see a myriad of branches and leaves, and roots connecting it to the Earth. It is still one tree. But it is also many. In the furnace with the youths, we see the pre-incarnate Christ dancing. The same pre-incarnate that walked with Adam. But, like the tree example, not separate, but serving purpose. The question of Trinity is "why?" It is one that my good protestants (and even Roman Catholics ) can't define, because they look at it from ideas and intellect. It is about communion, synergistic participation in the Divine Nature. We see Isiaih in Ch 6 participate. We see Moses participate. In this Communion, this illumination, participation, is so much so, the Light of God physically shines in him so that he must wear a veil. He participates by Grace what Christ on Mt Tabor does by Nature. This is why to Orthodox the Holy Mysteries of Baptism, Eucharist etc are tangible, organic and important ways that God communicates His grace to us. THis is a love story, where we don't use just intellectual reliance. We "Taste and see the Lord is good." Why does God also take on a human nature? "What is not assumed is not healed." It's not about "getting to paradise"-a place where we play in God's yard. It is relational, like marriage. I learn more about a relationship the more I participate. God does not stay distant. And why? Death. It must be destroyed. This is why Adam was cast out of the Garden. He couldn't stay in Eternity with a sinful nature. Death, like the Great Flood, is/was a purifying event. Then what? We see in 1 Peter 3 and 4 that He died in the Body, living in the Spirit descended into Hades on a rescue mission. He loves everyone. He "snuck" into hades through his human death-God can't die) in order to smash the gates "Lift up your gates, so the King of Glory may enter in!" Our iconography shows a victorious Christ pulling Adam and Eve out of Hades with everyone who recognizes Him following. the devil is embittered, tied with his own fetters. What does this all mean to you? The Quron came about hundreds of years after the New Testament, after the Gospels. I would measure the Quron off the Gospels, not the other way around. THe Quron came about hundreds of years after the first disciples of the Apostles wrote about the Christian faith. I suggest reading Polycarp, Ignatius of Antioch, Clement. These were direct disciples of Peter, Paul, and John who were all directly taught by Christ. Read Athanasius "On the Incarnation." This was written before the Quron. Read Basil the Great "On the Holy Spirit" to understand the Trinity. This was before the QUron. Read Irenaeus of Lyon's "On Heresies". He was one generation removed from Paul and John. WHy would we not trust those who were either in direct contact with Jesus, or one generation removed vs one writing 600 years later? If you say "Well, Allah revealed it and so it is true and everything before it is false." Well, the Mormons say the same thing about Joesph Smith and the book of Mormon. Why aren't they correct? The Quron says Jesus will return to judge. But only God can judge.

[@AveChristusRex789]

@@MorallyResponsible to reject the trinity is to essentially reject the divinity of Christ. To reject Christ’s divinity, is to be an unbeliever.

[@DJAJMora]

I was Chrismated into the Orthodox church this year on August 6th. I will be 55 in October. I came from a family that was raised nominal Roman Catholic in Central America (Costa Rica) , when we came to the US my parents encountered the Protestant / Pentecostal community of faith. I went on to pastor a Free Methodist Church in Los Angeles. Finding myself on the path of the ancient faith has been transcendent and truly a wonderful part of the whole journey. The more I learn to surrender my will to God's will, the more HE illuminates my nous and the less reliant I've become to lean on my own understanding - in all my ways I will to acknowledge HIM so HE can direct my path, make the path straight and remove any obstacle. I have learned how much I don't know. Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner. I can confess a peace that transcends all understanding. Thank you for sharing this video. If I can offer two virtues worth pursuing that I believe have made this journey so fulfilling for me personally, they would be: Honesty and Humility...

[@shemsuhor8763]

The process has been hard for me. I have been very slow to shed my ways. Lord have mercy.

[@EamonBurke]

You have time. And if you don't have time because the Lord takes you, you have His mercy.

[@tallmikbcroft6937]

amen

[@BrennerPlaehn-tl9yz]

Lord have mercy 🤝

[@alexlight4178]

keep going bro

[@tallmikbcroft6937]

Coming to Catachumin classes has been like going to a hospital and the doctor says " not good, you're sick and we will need to replace your organs." Oh? Which ones doctor? " All of them. " It's been painful ( but with Joy) My priest's only advice so far has been patience... Be patient.

[@Razamaniac]

Patience and prayer work miracles, some time it taks time but always in the end leaves you openmouthed with tears running from your eyes on how much patience and prayer from the heart can turn the world upside down.

[@cozzwozzle]

Slowly, slowly

[@c.a.t.732]

Be patient indeed... being re-programmed and indoctrinated takes time.

[@gutiux]

I felt the same man

[@Razamaniac]

@@c.a.t.732 lol dood you have no idea what you are talking about 😆

[@DogOneIsOpen]

9:18 “Brings us back to the poem. . . “ this really hit me hard. I’m a Presbyterian and really appreciate many aspects of that tradition, but always felt that something was missing. . . God bless you Jonathan.

[@GordonGartrell27]

I’ve studied Orthodoxy for many years. There are things that attract me and things that repel me. I’m happy where I am, but no doubt i’m thankful for my Orthodox brothers and sisters in Christ. Great video

[@whitebeltjoe4109]

I've just begun looking into the church. I'm not sure if it's against the rules, but I'd like to know what repels you. I haven't found anything so far that makes me feel that way.

[@Wowzers740]

I have been searching for the Faith that was right for two decades, but being an American and raised by evangelicals in a protestant country, Orthodoxy was completely foreign to me. I knew they had icons, and to me that smacked of idolatry…. Until one of the several excellent Orthodox KZbin channels used the illustration of having a picture of your family or a flag on a flagpole. We don’t worship the pictures of our family, and we don’t worship the flag; the Orthodox don’t worship icons or the Theotokos, either. They bring what they illustrate to the temporal space, typically worship and prayer spaces. Saints, including the Holy Mother of God, are revered as heros and friends that are already in the presence of Christ, if I’m not mistaken in that metaphor. Asking them to pray for us is no different in concept than asking the minister at the local megachurch to pray for you. The difference is that the saints are wonderful examples of Christian life, the folks at the local mega church…. maybe not. I am deeply interested in converting to EO, and am talking with my wife about her and our two young children pursuing this path as a family.

[@JeP-lz4ti]

@@Wowzers740 God bless you. What personally keeps me high-church Protestant is that icon veneration and intercession of saints appears to be developments over time, rather than early church practice.

[@jacobbeight4268]

Read the bible greek or king james, just read!!!!!! Like goodness! Like church is the ppl!!!!! Not the building your at!!!!!! JESUS WAS IN A DESERT with no church!!!!!! Like do ppl not get this what JESUS is saying!!!!!!!!

[@ihiohoh2708]

@@jacobbeight4268 There is a visible church as well. I'm Protestant, but the church was given the responsibility by God to preserve the Scripture you're speaking of. We should look to the early church and councils as an example for orthodoxy. (lower case o, means right belief) I am a historical Protestant, started as a Baptist/nondenominational. The sacraments are extremely important, and the visible church administers them.

[@susanwebster-d4f]

This is one of my favourite offerings to-date from Johnathan. From the depth and the simplicity, of study and knowing, of the eternal and now.

[@learn-about-God]

Funny... why haven't Orthodoxy studied Matthew 6 or really anything Jesus taught? Weird.

[@jabrication8048]

​@@learn-about-GodFunny... why haven't Protestants studied Jude 1:3, Matthew 16:18, 1 Timothy 3:15, 1 Corinthians 11:2, 2 Thessalonians 2:15, 2 Thessalonians 3:6, 2 Timothy 1:13-14, 1 Timothy 1:3, Acts 2:42, or really anything the apostles taught as they were given authority by Christ Himself (Acts 1:2, Galatians 1:11-12, Matthew 10:40, Luke 10:16)? Weird.

[@logandailey4575]

Was chrismated on pascha. Have learned a lot, still have much to learn. Christ is risen!

[@ProtectingVeil]

Glory to God! He is risen indeed! Good struggle, Logan!

[@matthewhebbert9712]

Truly he is risen!

[@Lt.colonel]

გაუმარჯოს საქართველოს მართმადიდებელ ავტოკეფარულ ეკლესიას! 🇬🇪

[@prodigaldaughter00]

I hope this goes viral. Brilliant and easy to digest clip 👏

[@keenanmiller6231]

Thank you I’m considering joining the Orthodox Church . A real community of believers who will actually aid each other on the road to Salvation

[@ProtectingVeil]

Glory to God...Godspeed!

[@Andi-y8e]

I was baptized Russian orthodox when I was a newborn baby. But then I was adopted by an American couple (who I love so much) when I was 11 months old. I didn’t actually know that there were any orthodox churches in America until a year ago. But this past Sunday I went to one. I’m so happy that I did ❤ because I’ve been to other churches before I’m Pursuing a conversion back into the church I always knew was true. All the other churches I’ve been to were catholic or Protestant and they just didn’t feel like the truth. For many years I’ve felt empty. But because I’ve been to this wonderful Russian Orthodox Church in my town, I’m no longer empty. I know that Orthodoxy is the true church of God. I’m 25 now. Almost 26. For the first time in 25 years I reunited with the truth. I know it takes time to comeback to bring a member again, but it’s all worth it. Praise Yeshua of Nazareth ☦️

[@ProtectingVeil]

Glory to God...welcome Home!

[@birdlynn417]

I too am in the process of my Catechumen phase in the Orthodox Church. After coming home here, and through all my studies with the Orthodox Church, Jesus Christ teachings and understanding them better, the Desert Fathers, and their wisdom, there is no turning back to any other church again. There is nowhere else I would rather be.This is the real church God meant for us to BE. Orthodoxy is a way of life and that way of life is following Jesus and doing what he instructs us to do, taking his teachings seriously in our lives in a way that is gentle but so real that the Holy Spirit shows you the truth that you cannot denye. We all live with some great sorrows in our lives, but It is good to know, that we are all in this together , and we don't have to journey alone. We can have Jesus in the boat with us always, as long as we invite him in and trust and believe him and the scriptures, and along side the church.

[@martinpotter1517]

Im going to my first Orthodox church service tomorrow. Cant wait

[@treewalker1070]

Loved this interview, love listening to Jonathan Pageau. Just wanted to comment that I am happy that you have changed your theme music to some actual Orthodox chant. The music (especially Valaam and Cappella Romana) is what drew me first toward Orthodoxy, and has become my soundtrack for years before I ever set foot in an Orthodox church starting this past Palm Sunday. I had heard the Valaam chant you are now using as a theme countless times but never thought to ask what it was, but then at Pascha I was thrilled to hear the very same hymn in the church, "Christ Is Risen"! Love your videos and will continue watching them.

[@alexandrumacavei7323]

Blessings on your explanations Jonathan! I think the “miraculous reason” for which this centrality and depth have been preserved in the Church is the Holy Spirit side of Trinity. We have never evicted It from our theology therefore the ancient understanding has been kept intact, through a lot more hardships and oppositions. I think a small thing like Filioque has been very impactful on the shattering and misguidance of western forms of Christianity, which have led to the downspiraling world Jonathan is talking about. I say this with love, bless you all ❤☦️😇

[@frankherbert6476]

What many, if not most, American Protestants (myself included) end up needing to work through, is the view-even if unintentional-that Orthodoxy is simply a highly refined version of their Western denominational faith/belief, where all the "bad" stuff, things they disagree with, angry about, etc, are cleansed, leaving a distilled version of an expected version of Christianity they already have. What we need to realize-come to terms with-is that Western Christianity is a type of religious philosophy more than a lived experience of revealed Truth. I was told that it would take 10 years to become Orthodox. I was quite put off by this. Now I'm thinking it was too generous. The amount of de-programming that has to occur within the life of the faith, where "participation" takes on a whole new dimension, is quite substantial.

[@termination9353]

-The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. -The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. - It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.

[@djnv4702]

I’ve heard it said that once one is chrismated it takes at least five years to even begin to think “orthodox”-as in shedding the flat and literal way of thinking spiritually. And that’s just the beginning. I’ve been Orthodox for five years and I have a long way to go. Lord have mercy! 🙏🏼

[@frankherbert6476]

@@termination9353 Where did you happen to find this narrative?

[@termination9353]

@@frankherbert6476 Well from studying the Gospel very carefully. To start with John 21:24 "This is the disciple[whom Jesus loved/ Lazarus] which testifieth of these things, AND WROTE THESE THINGS: and we[Apostles] know that his testimony is true." John 11:5 Now Jesus LOVED Martha, and her sister, and LAZARUS John 11:3 Therefore his sisters sent unto him{Jesus], saying, Lord, behold, HE[Lazarus] WHOM THOU LOVEST is sick.. John11:36 Then said the Jews, Behold how he[Jesus] LOVED him[Lazarus]!

[@JasonGeorgiouGaming]

@@termination9353 Jesus loved all His disciples what are you on about.

[@mariogagliardi8491]

I would say the most inspiring is the chance to live forever, and that for God life is eternal, snd everyone is alive in His eyes.

[@anthonyally4390]

Thanks for introducing us to the church where God the Holy Spirit has been from before the beginning of creation in heaven and on Earth and will be one with God forever ☦️🕊️🛐

[@st3ll4rw4v3]

I'm exploring with my faith and while I won't be able to do much for a few years (for personal reasons),so far I've found myself comfortable with orthodoxy. For a bit of background, I grew up in a mixed family (mostly catholics and humanists, but also protestants) with a heavy catholic influence from my hometown, reconnecting with my faith has been an amazing experience so far.

[@rustybeltway2373]

I want to comment, but I don't know where to begin. Such rich and deep responses.

[@ancientofdayslionofjudah2427]

That's me, every time I speak.

[@metallica990z]

Go to Divine litergy and talk with your priest.

[@bonniejohnstone]

We say that the services themselves teach us and it’s true. (I was Protestant 46 years and happy, and became Orthodox 30 years ago looking for worship and a deeper spiritual journey which I found). Nobody rushes anyone into becoming Orthodox.., we expect people to take a long time…maybe a year or more to live the life of prayer and fellowship.

[@joshclossick5710]

I've been going to a greek Orthodox church near since March, I'm now in catechism. I was a Protestant when I found Jesus but I always felt something was missing.

[@Tytheband]

Pageau is very cerebral in his explanation of the heart of Orthodoxy. For people that are coming from a very rational mindset, he can be much help to them.

[@andrewpirr]

I agree and forgive me, I sense there's a danger in this approach, but Christ be with him.

[@erinmcknight405]

I love this. I recently married , and my husband is Orthodox. I am in the process of joining the church. This is super helpful to me as I learn more and grow in my faith.

[@zzzaaayyynnn]

I've been following Pageau for several years, but this is a good summation of his approach to Orthodoxy. Thanks for posting.

[@knightrider585]

Funny, Jonathan's teachings of the symbolic meaning in scripture helped me understand King Charles III coronation and why the anointment is shielded from view, just like Solomon and David.

[@guspapadopoulos]

It's such a great feeling hearing your passionate insight and sincere humility into Orthodoxy, especially when I'm starting to see Catholic advocates wrongfully claiming the heresies of Eastern Orthodoxy.

[@cynicalclockworks9857]

Not an Orthodox Christian, but a Christian and member of a church heavily invested in authority, completely out of step with the modern world, and commitment to the teachings of Jesus. I watch a lot of Jonathan's content, not only to expand my understanding of another faith, but as a source of hope in what seems to be an increasingly complicated world. Thanks.

[@franciscolaureano7703]

Maybe check out “Arise O God” by Fr. Andrew Damick. May God bless you. ❤️☦️

[@barbershopboy05]

Greetings brother, may I ask what fellowship you are a part of?

[@br.m]

It is possible to be an evangelical protestant and orthodox. It is not really fair to let the eastern orthodox churches take that word "orthodox". The truth is that eastern orthodoxy is unorthodox Christianity.

[@franciscolaureano7703]

@@br.m funniest thing I have read in a long time.

[@br.m]

@@franciscolaureano7703 The truth can be funny. We understand the definition of the word "orthodox" correct? I am a protestant and adhere to Christian faith. Unlike the arrogant backsliding eastern orthodox who worship idols and dead ancestors.

[@SusonTadakhe]

Beautiful Orthodoxy and I am.❤ For Orthodoxy ☦️ 🛐 Amen Priest the lord.

[@BaikalTii]

"Or by the pearl of price is to be understood the sweetness of the heavenly kingdom, which, he that hath found it, selleth all and buyeth. For he that, as far as is permitted, has had perfect knowledge of the sweetness of the heavenly life, readily leaves all things that he has loved on earth; all that once pleased him among earthly possessions now appears to have lost its beauty, for the splendour of that precious pearl is alone seen in his mind."

[@cw4091]

To the measure that you desire salvation, that is the measure that you will participate in the life of the Church. That's how I would put your opening statement, JP.

[@birdlynn417]

Wonderful talk and sharing, thank you, very much, Jonathan Pageau, excellent. 😊🙏

[@CoquelicotCottage]

This is very helpful. I'm feeling and thinking towards Orthodoxy. I just require knowledge, direction, and discernment. Oh, and probably many other things.

[@Beta-XYZ]

Not just another faith it is the way of life not easy but possible.

[@MoosePolo]

I used to think nothing of being baptized when I was a baby into orthodoxy and now I think it’s super cool. Am getting into it for the first time really and I believe in god now. (Armenian Orthodox)

[@ProtectingVeil]

Glory to God!

[@feeble_stirrings]

Ah, lovely that you got Jonathan. Some great thoughts here. Thanks for sharing.

[@angyt1070]

This was so good! Thank you!

[@ProtectingVeil]

Glory to God...Christ is Born! Happy new year!

[@paulpa76]

Couldn't be explained any better, thank you very much👏♥️🙏👍

[@MelodeeHansen]

I admire the path of the rituals and icons to achieve mystical experience, but my path has been different and the light of God has transformed me through other ways including Christian 12 step program which is really deeply Eastern at core in underlying concepts in the steps.

[@brostoevsky22]

I attended my first Liturgy last Sunday at a Greek Orthodox church here in the US. I've seen many beautiful Russian Orthodox churches from inside during the 8 years I lived in Moscow. The difference from my Mormon upbringing was quite strong. The service was absolutely beautiful. It felt right. Moreover, it tracks with Fyodor Dostoevsky's idea that "beauty will save the world". Despite not being Slavic the Russians rubbed off on me in a good way I suppose.

[@r8Dest]

I really want to respect you Jonathan, but it is hard when it feels like concrete subjects like "What do we believe" are approached with such vague non-descript language. I get that you want to be approachable, but having something I can sink my teeth into would be really nice. SO here's my interpretation of the Orthodox church from the description given and what I can piece together. It seems like the Orthodox church attempts to resurrect the systematic approach that the Pharisee's had created. Thats not necessarily a bad thing, if the goal is to help people grow closer to God by giving them a disciplined step by step process, the error though comes in quickly when that process is then argued as the "correct" or "only" or "orthodox" way of approaching a relationship with God.

[@melonyrobinson9944]

Well, it's more step by step than many Protestant churches, and while I would say it's a process, it's not like a checklist. It is a process of forming a relationship with God. And while we wouldn't say it's the only way to form a relationship with God, it is the "correct" way, as in the way Jesus told us to do so. It's like, you might be able to cure a disease with an untested drug that you bought from a stranger, but it's a better idea to use the medicine that a doctor prescribes you and to follow their instruction. God reaches out to all, but we also have to come to him and accept his will and way of doing things over our own

[@ልጅቷ]

እኔ የ ኢትዮጲያ ኦርቶዶክስ ተዎህዶ ክርስቲያን አማኝ ነኝ። አባቶቻችን ያቆዩልን እና ኢየሱስ ክርስቶስ እራሱ በመሰረታት ቅድስት ንፅህት ቤተክርስቲያን ውስጥ ጌታ ኢየሱስን በማምለኬ ነብሴ ሀሴት ታረጋለች። ኦርቶዶክስ ውስጥ ባልኖር ኖሮ የጌታን እናት ቅድስት ድንግል ማርያምን አላውቃትም ነበር። እመቤታችን ክብህርት የጌታ እናት ማርያም ታማልዳለች። ክቡር በሆነው ስጋው ቅድስ በሆነው ደሙ እግዚአብሔር ይመስገን

[@MaxStArlyn]

0:01 Such beautiful sounds.

[@alexlight4178]

i became catechumen last week : ) talking and thinking about the church is essential, sure, but the actual experience trumps it all. just do it, guys, and feel about it at least as much as you think about it.

[@ProtectingVeil]

Amen...congrats...Godspeed!🙏☦

[@MelodeeHansen]

Many orthodox are actually still living in the fourth century from what I hear, and many are not from what I’ve heard and experienced on their threads. But Jonathan certainly is very alive in Christ and up to date.

[@DavidBlagic156945]

I love this guy so much

[@eole123456789]

As a catholic, I relate to everything he's saying and I don't see a contradiction.

[@melonyrobinson9944]

yeah, our differences with y'all mostly have to deal with rather specific doctrines, the pope, and changes in the catholic church over time, but much of the general stuff is the same, or at least more similar than either of us are to protestantism

[@ZeemonMeyers]

Pray for me in my transition of faith. May God bless me

[@meganbohun1483]

Did you say the heart of orthodoxy is to become God to the capacity we can become God? 3:50 mark. Can you please explain what you mean by this?

[@MANNYDRAWS]

Orthodox understanding of salvation is deeper than "get outta hell card". St Athanasius (On The Incarnation) summarized it as "Christ became man so that man could become god (by His Grace)" Meaning that our path is an eternal one growing ever closer to the likeness of God. He made us in His image... our purpose is to grow in His likeness. Hope that helps.

[@rezaghasem9113]

Christ was god by nature and became human by grace, so we who are by nature human will become god by grace . Meaning that we can partake with his energies to the highest without becoming god in essence

[@jamesoncross19]

@rezaghasem9113 so you don't become god by essence or nature, but you become god in his energy? I'm trying to understand, not criticize.

[@rezaghasem9113]

@jamesoncross19 i guess that's right , dont worry, im not orthodox myself, but that's what i hear from them

[@TheTrueMonotheist99]

@@jamesoncross19 Not Orthodox but this concept is called Theosis. They believe in a stronger communion or unity with God through immersing themselves in God’s Divine nature that resembles the strongest loving relationship. Not necessarily “becoming God” in a literal sense but rather a deeper unity with Him; just like how the Trinity resembles a unity among the three persons in one essence (ousia in Greek).

[@casualchatwithamanda5996]

I have been feeling pulled to orthodoxy. I went to my first service saturday. For some reason i was like let me see what jonathon p is ..and of course hes orthadox. Pretty good sign since hes one of the smartest people ive ever listened to. Im going to keep digging in and praying God opens my eyes.

[@ProtectingVeil]

Godspeed!

[@iustinprisacaru225]

I love that Orthodox Christoanity has a more mystical and soulful view on this religion unlike other Christian Churches that are more strict and literal about the Bible. It is about having a more truthful and sincere conection with God and Christ than respecting strictly following the bible.

[@blessedpursuitofmotherhood]

Such a wonderful video! Thank you!!☦️

[@Cavirex]

Right on time! I've been following Pageau since I returned to Catholocism a year and a half ago and today I've begun my cathechesis to become a parishioner at my local Russian Orthodox Church! ☦️ KPHCTOC BOCKPECE!

[@bsoroud]

Why don’t you study Catholicism more in depthly before doing that.

[@Cavirex]

@@bsoroud I've studied it. I've reasearched and read debates and I've lived it. I'm Italian so we have a lot of Catholic culture too. It's not as if I just woke up and chose Orthodoxy even though I did feel it to be truer the first time I've set foot in my parish. Still, it wasn't an emotional argument which led me there. But of reason and the Holy Spirit led me there. I still love the Roman Church, because they're half of the Catholic one. But my home is here in Orthodoxy. God bless you.

[@ancadan9935]

I was born into orthodoxy but i never understood the teachings through the singing of the priest. Also, it made me feel that i m not even close to being...adequate in God s eyes. Most of the priests who taught us religion in school seemed rigid and quick to point toour mistakes, the shoulds and shouldn ts in a way that made me feel a lost cause. Everything godly felt so inaccessible that it became undesirable to me at one point. I never quite got the praying to Mary and the saints and the opulence in the church and the preist s garments in holy days felt...inadequate. All these things made me turn my back on the church in rebellion and defeat and I put God on hold since I couldn t figure things out. I was young when this happened. Fast forward about 10 years, i fell in love with a man who is baptist. I clearly remember how his narative went about "Actually, if you think about it, orthodoxy and baptism are about the same. We re not that different". "Sure, and that s exactly why i m supposed to get baptised in order to qualify to become your wife!", i used to answer, irritated. But i did it anyway. I now clearly remember something i heared as a child: if you give up the true faith, you ll go to hell. Does anyone knowledgeable have a word for me?

[@andreibalaban3643]

Turning away from the true faith is indeed a great sin, but no sin is unforgivable, as long as you repent (including returning to the Church). Now, that may seem hard, since your husband is a Baptist, but is it worth it. Foolish mistake to just abandon your religion like that but now there's no use crying over spilt milk

[@ancadan9935]

@@andreibalaban3643 Thank you for your answer. It has taken one of my burdens off my chest. But I think the foolish mistake pertains to the church and to society (I mean family units) for a. Failing to reach young minds and hearts and b. for people being cultural christians and not actually understanding their faith so that they can instill it into their children. Even in the Baptist church I felt this sense of elitism and a deep pride that causes a huge divide between baptists and well, the rest of the world...Not to mention this constant biting at orthodox and catholic christians. People just don t understand that the danger of atheism and that of Islam are iminent and that religious virtue signalling only creates divides quickly perceived and exploited by the enemy islam... I live surrounded by Muslims and I can tell you that their religion is literally part of their identity, they are taught apologetics and polemics from a young age and they have a clear advantage in converting people just by virtue of their passion (I had to spend 6 months to study Islam to arm myself against their dawah). Even as an adult I still can t get to the bottom of things in Christianity, it s so, so divided! I m not into running to what feels familiar, I need to reason my way to the truth. Either way, it seems to me that the Reformation brought tremendous splitting to Christianity... But orthodox or catholic? Looks like I should really study church history to get a glimpse of the way forward...

[@andreibalaban3643]

@@ancadan9935 "I'm not into running into what feels familiar, I need to reason my way to the truth" but you converted away from Orthodoxy to Baptism and you didn't give any reason except for your husband being baptist. It is indeed true that we don't educate our children enough. Christianity is indeed divided, but I'd compare Orthdoxy, Catholicism and Protestantism, these are the 3 main branches.

[@ancadan9935]

@@andreibalaban3643 See? Here s you doing it right here! I didn t convert 4 years ago. I converted about 20 years ago! You couldn t have known that but you COULD have asked me, at least. A 21 yo, in love mind and a 41 yo mind are not the same. You just made my point, sadly. 😔

[@mw2416]

Currently Catholic and remarried. I have been thinking about Orthodoxy lately. The Catholic church is in disarray and getting worse by the day. What is the process to conversion and how does being remarried affect that if at all?

[@ProtectingVeil]

Thanks for your comment! The first step is to find a local parish/priest (you can use this website to help find one: orthodoxyinamerica.org/). The priest will answer your questions...there should not be an issue with having remarried.

[@zeppa]

I've been looking into orthodoxy and feel a little intimidated of all the practices during church service. Can anyone provide advice for me during my first time going to a service?

[@melonyrobinson9944]

stand near the back and watch what others do. just don't go up for communion. It will take time to learn, so don't worry too much about it. Also feel free to look up the structure of the service to familiarize yourself with it beforehand. (This will also help in case the service is partially in another language)

[@birdlynn417]

Know that the Father or Priest and fellow parishioners are not judging you, in fact it is just the opposite, they know you are new and just being present is fine as you are, watching. You don't have to do anything, or feel like you have to follow what others are doing, just be patient with the whole experience and yourself and know you are a guest among kind Christians who will welcome you and want you to feel comfortable. ❤

[@songofyesterday]

He said a lot of things, but they just loop back on the same point that the orthodoxy opposed tradition and linked back to the past, and provides a way for modern people to break away from the norms. However, this is available with just about any religion. I was trying to go to talk about what orthodox questions do on a day-to-day basis that would be different.

[@GreekLady188]

Appreciate your explanations.

[@daci6683]

Beautifully said! Its counter-cultural for a westerner to become Orthodox. I like how he said it with so much fear in his voice, afraid not to hurt people's feelings. :-) I am Eastern Orthodox from eastern Europe, when I moved to western Europe (due to my marriage) I realised western people and eastern people are two different species, and that indeed it's hard (to impossible) for westerners to embrace Eastern Orthodoxy, from so many points of view! And they can't many of them so they create now a new cult, a sort of Western _eastern orthodoxy... basically they adapt God to their own limitations because its imposible for them to obey and accept meakness, the struggle, and basically the eastern orthodox way of life.

[@BreachMcGuire]

I'm going to St Benedict Orthodox Church for the first time, any prayers are welcome I'm pretty nervous/excited🙏

[@ProtectingVeil]

Godspeed!

[@rachelk5272]

Is it normal as a newcomer to feel disconnected and alien from the other people in the church? I love the services but I don’t understand the people and I don’t know how to connect with them and it has caused my anxiety to grow. I don’t know if my expectations are too high or if it’s something wrong with me but the social stress is becoming too much to handle

[@ProtectingVeil]

Hi Rachel, Christ is risen! I would say that, generally no, it's not normal. That said, there are, alas, a variety of Orthodox communities...some are more open and vibrant than others. I have experienced both...and I know it can be difficult when a community is more closed. Depending on where you're located, you could perhaps visit a different parish. (You can find where Orthodox churches are located by using: www.orthodoxyinamerica.org) If no other options are available...I'd encourage you to try to spend some time at an Orthodox woman's monastery, to seek counsel there. If you have difficulty finding a parish or monastery, feel free to reach out to me (my email is on the YT About page!)

[@DexiPawnz]

Do not be put off, it depends on the community of that specific Church. There's a reason you are pulled to the Orthodox Church, put your faith in Christ and try to push past the anxiety, it might just be a temptation to let it all fall down. Stay strong. Give your anxiety to Christ, pray, tell Him that you need His help with your anxiety, that you're passing it over to Him, and that you need His guidance and stick to the commitment. Do not be deceived: you will be disappointed by what you find in any Orthodox church, at least initially, or if not, somewhere along the journey. Rather fast is the experience of most (and mine). It may be that your disappointments are legitimate. Try to always see past that. The Orthodox Church is made of people, of no lesser sinfulness than any other folk. In this world there's an infinte amount of obstacles for anything, we however have the capacity to power through, and in matters concerning God, He has the power to reshape the very way the puzzle pieces fit together so that you end up where you are supposed to.

[@GreenGal53]

I am wanting to learn everything I can. Where should I start

[@ProtectingVeil]

First place to start is to find a parish near you! You can use this website to find one: orthodoxyinamerica.org/ Also...here are some articles that you may find helpful: orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/inq_allprots.aspx

[@Dominus-Noctis]

Christ evolves faster than us.

[@lindaobrien8538]

I commend the Orthodox clergy for not surrendering to wokeism.

[@thewrightoknow]

Hello, I have heard that The Orthodox Church believes it is the only true church and that other churches, catholic and Protestant are not true Christian’s? Is this true? Also as a charismatic Christian, do Orthodox Christian believe that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are for today? Thanks

[@melonyrobinson9944]

We would generally consider Protestant and Catholics true Christians, but they do not have the "fullness of the faith". It's not like they will absolutely go to hell or something, but Orthodoxy is the one true church in that it faithfully follows and preserves Christ's teachings since he established it. We don't say for certain where Christ doesn't work or who he condemns, but we do know where he does work and save, and that is the true path of salvation

[@thewrightoknow]

@@melonyrobinson9944 Thank you for you answer.

[@MichaTheLight]

Orthodoxy survived communism that says smth

[@AveChristusRex789]

Hey Jonathan, I’m interested in Orthodoxy and potentially converting. However, I’m struggling to choose which Orthodox church to attend. I recently attended one last Sunday, however I found out it was a “Genuine Orthodox Church”, which I’ve heard many say is schismatic and thus heretical. How do I found out which church is in communion with the other Orthodox Churches and thus an appropriate church to attend? I live in the UK

[@ProtectingVeil]

Greetings! Thanks for your note...while I don't know the UK Orthodox scene as well as that of North America, you should be fine going to most Orthodox churches (though it sounds as though you found one of the extremely rare non-canonical ones(!)) Feel free to email me ([e-mail]) and let me know where you're located...I'm sure we can find a canonical one for you! All the best!

[@AveChristusRex789]

@@ProtectingVeil thank you, I’ll make sure to send you an email 🙌

[@eeaotly]

Maybe you have found an "old rite" one. Usually those consider themselves to be authentic and the others to be heretics. It's all due to a childish misunderstanding regarding the chalendar. They believe that the new chalendar (Gregorian one) is "wrong" because it was "done by a pope". 🙄 But the pope didn't make the chalendar, obviously. He didn't even calculated it. And chalendar is not dogma, it's just an instrument to measure time. If someone i in error, those are the old rite people because at some point, they risk celebrating Pascha at the wrong date. Pascha date is calculated according to certain criteria. And for that, you need an up to date chalendar, logically. While is no problem with Christmas or other saint dates, when it comes to Pascha and the celebrations that are related to it, things are a bit tricky in regards to old rite people. As a rule, ask them when they celebrate Christmas and Saint Mary's Dormition and what date is today. If they give you other dates than the normal ones, you know who they are.

[@maximusconfese5899]

I know nothing but at this point in time it's probably safest to go with the Greek Orthodox Church

[@z.k.4105]

Where exactly in the UK do you live?

[@jackp492]

I’m curious if the axe is laid to the root of the tree, if that which is crooked cannot be made straight, What is the rationalisation of following traditions?

[@eyesee9715]

There’s a difference between traditions and Holy Tradition, the passing on of the faith and the life in the Spirit from generation to generation in the Church, the Body of Christ. Without Holy Tradition we would not know Christ, we’d only know about him as an historical figure. No holy scripture without Holy Tradition, the handing down of the life in Christ, the life in the Holy Spirit, through people.

[@jackp492]

@@eyesee9715 without the church I wouldn’t know Christ? I wouldn’t know the word of God? Without the church I wouldn’t know about the anti christ either by your definition, but that’s not true either

[@jackp492]

@@eyesee9715 that’s by your definition of a church, which you instead call “the” church

[@termination9353]

-The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. - It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.

[@jackp492]

@@termination9353 I have considered that, the old moniker “rome is eternal” is rather telling, that a story about the eternal truth also happens to include rome, so rome like a parasite becomes eternal by being included in Jesus story, I think Jesus words are the truth, And I think because evil is deceitful it must present itself as good, to be a usurper it must wear the robes of the king

[@michaelkish7794]

I’m still on the fence. I’ve been going to an Orthodox Church on and off for 9 months now. I’ve met with the priest a few times. But I’m still unsure. Prostrations, bowing, fasting, the different services, prayers, doing things before prayers, etc. seems overwhelming. To me it seems like the bondage of the law. Where the Jews had to do all these different things before God. I know this is just my ignorance talking. Hopefully people can help me understand better because I do want to learn more. I do enjoy going to the liturgy.

[@johnnyd2383]

Start going to the catechism classes.

[@evolgenius1150]

It’s like the world forgets Protestantism still teaches theosis. We just call it something else and place an emphasis on Christs atonement as being a gift received via faith, and not to be confused with doing anything to earn it. The end goal of my faith as a Protestant is to become conformed to the image of Christ and begin to live more and more out of this identity which is harmonious to everything taught in scripture - something of a transformation that happens inside we express externally vs something we go thru the deeds and motions of on the outside. A process of sanctification led by the Holy Spirit which we cooperate with in surrender that will most likely take the rest of my life until I’m with the Lord. But I think it’s very important to have faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross so when we do make a mistake or fall into temptation we aren’t fooled by the devil into running in circles trying to fix it and fall into scrupulosity or OCD. We repent, confess, pray and move on and shore up what we need to shore up instead of our tendency to spiral and doubt our salvation. I think we just like to hammer that home, but it in no way stops at accepting Christ and repenting and believing the gospel. That’s just the staring line but we have faith He will finish what he started in us, and that what he did is atonement for our mistakes enough, which I cannot add or take away from thru my faithfulness nor my folly. ❤

[@clarissabe1786]

Is there an Orthodox Church in Guam?

[@strugglingathome]

Yes! 🙏 ❤ ☦️

[@AndrewKendall71]

This is not the charitable way to put it, but: It's like all those Jerusalem Judaizers got together with former Pharisees and formed a church, were tempted by their bents to "tie up heavy loads" for the people, and started looking for every opportunity to remove the crowns from people who truly love and serve Jesus. Those who "find their church home" in this expression of Christianity seem to be finding what all who are looking for a way to pay their own way find. There really seems no scandal of grace in this expression.

[@miastupid7911]

Ο Χριστος μαζι σου Ιωναθαν! = Christ be with you Jonathan!

[@mer8795]

Well, I have been a Protestant for almost all my life. Every point you made, I have been taught or found in my journey of faith. I am beginning to think the Orthodox church may have better guidance to help people (some or most) on that journey, but the journey is much the same. In my church, though sermons and classes/ bible studies, it is up to individual to really study Bible. The type relationship one has with God has much to do with what the person is willing put forth. We have to live in the world, without becoming part of the world. When people are young they get caught up in work, marriage, family and spend little time with God. Then they drift into being part of world, and want to pick and choose what scriptures they read and want to believe. We have to come back, stay strong in God and follow Holy Spirit guidance. It is work, but well worth it. I personally do not find symbols, paintings, icons ...helpful particularly . I find many cathedrals, Roman Catholic or Orthodox, way too excessive, and unnecessary (I've been to Germany and Israel and seen many).

[@harrygarris6921]

Is a cathedral strictly necessary? No. But it puts on full display the beauty of artistic expression. We’re meant to image God, the ultimate creator and lover of beauty. I don’t see why it’s a bad thing that we’ve found a way to do the same on a much smaller scale in an attempt to honor him.

[@mary-jodukas7627]

John 6:66

[@Beta-XYZ]

You vision the results of your scholastic-vision of God good or bad!!??

[@mer8795]

@@Beta-XYZ the question synthetic was strange. However, if you mean what I learned from my youth about God and Jesus; I would say its adequate, but not thorough. It is much easier now to get information if one has questions. I have made great progress in my understanding of some complex ideas.

[@ibelieve3111]

Thanks

[@justinw947]

Disillusion is what keeps me from finally joining a church. I want to be baptised and have a church but i get scared in a way, afraid ill be disappointed. Im working on it.

[@backinmyrightmind]

@justinw947……disillusion comes with life. Think of how many times you may have been disappointed in yourself and you begin to understand that we are all disappointing at various times in our lives. We are growing in our faithfulness and pursuit of Christ…..He never disappoints! Visit an Orthodox Church and attend several Liturgies….speak with an Orthodox priest and tell him about your fears. May the Holy Trinity help you on your spiritual journey and may you see your way into the Holy Orthodox Church! ❤️☦️

[@melonyrobinson9944]

orthodoxy exists in the world. it can be messy because humans are messy. but don't let that stop you from growing closer to God's perfection.

[@nemitv1157]

Don't be afraid, it is literally 365 in the Bible. God Bless from Serbian Orthodox

[@lesleypatoncox1569]

What is the place of women as leaders and teachers, pastors, preachers, apostles?

[@z.k.4105]

The Mother of God is a perfect example for you. She achieved more than any man for humanity. What more do you want?

[@raf_thomas4760]

I’ve been trying to convert to orthodox but my parents are both Protestant and refuse to take me to an Orthodox Church, what should I do?

[@ProtectingVeil]

Difficult situation! Prayer and patience, to begin with. Have you found a local Orthodox parish? If so, perhaps you could seek guidance from the priest over the phone? Good strength...keep the faith!

[@areus19891]

orthodox life is a life full of sacrifices - its hard and its hardening me - may the lord show u all strength in your weak times because we are weak forever on this planet > dont feel proud and prestige and u r in the right path

[@gutiux]

Yes!!!

[@gerardosanchez6567]

Does orthodoxy still pray to mary and the saints? I feel compelled to know more but that for me is a deal breaker but again i know not much of Orthodoxy i just found Johnathan from watching Jordan Peterson

[@ProtectingVeil]

Have you visited an Orthodox church yet, brother? I'd encourage you to do so...that's the best place to begin...come and see!

[@z.k.4105]

And on the internet you can find so much about Orthodoxy. Search and you will find.

[@AnHebrewChild]

Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee.

[@pg618]

Simply put we must live the life of the church which is the only way to the Head, Christ. Historically individuals did not connect themselves to Chris by themselves. 99.9 per cent always came through the church. They were not self approved, they were approved by the body of Christ. That is until the rationalistic humanistic Renaissance which developed extreme individualism.

[@Alexander-Herman]

So true!

[@johnsambo9379]

Many people who are protestant are very devoted Christian people. The see the satanic corruption of the RCC and know that's not the way. Orthodoxy is not well known in the Western World and America.

[@JoshAlicea1229]

😂 Christianity 101……. With Jonathan Pageau haha. Good luck with that kids. He’s a genius, and it takes me 4 listens to understand what he is talking about. Love his work.

[@danielgaley9676]

My wife is dead set against Orthodoxy. I'm old and disabled and I wish to convert. She threatened divorce if I did. Please pray for us!

[@Willow115.34]

That's disturbing. I would speak to a church leader at your current or potential church on that matter. I'll pray for you.

[@tobij7300]

Does anyone have a recommendation for an Orthodox Church in Maryland ?

[@ProtectingVeil]

Holy Cross in Linthicum, perhaps? Where are you? St. Mark's in Bethesda also...

[@tobij7300]

God is good. I did a lot of digging last night and settled to visit Holy Cross this Sunday. I’m grateful for your confirmation. Thank you!

[@nikkid267]

Thank you for thos video! I am looking into Orthpdoxy. It feeks "right" but i need to learn the people, the leaders. To see if what i am feeling is true. How do you recommend i do this?

[@ProtectingVeil]

Glory to God! The most important thing is to find a parish near you that you feel comfortable with, meet with the priest, and go to as many services as possible. You can use this website to find Orthodox parishes -> orthodoxyinamerica.org/

[@MelodeeHansen]

I left evangelical Protestantism, deconstructed, still deeply spiritual. I feel such freedom now in Christ and admire the orthodox tradition, thought about becoming orthodox because they’re theology helped me the most to deconstruct, but to be bound by strict rules of conduct seem like another trap at this point.

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

If a person was literally starving to death, would it be a sin for that person to steal food?

[@NoName-xc6cg]

No, in my opinion. What do you say?

[@z.k.4105]

There is no need to steal. Food banks are now everywhere.

[@nemitv1157]

Yes, it is SIN but you can pray to Jesus to forgive you that you was weak atm. You should fast like Jesus do and like we Orthodox do you became stronger in Faith

[@dylanrunner2001]

Was there anything of the orthodox liturgy, theology, or traditions that was lost during Ottoman rule? I remember reading somewhere that the passing down of the faith in seminaries and among the laity faltered during this time.

[@andrewpirr]

Have you heard of Saint Cosmas? His life can answer your question, I believe. God bless

[@Peter_McKenna587]

Please explain 4:00.