How Animal Crossing New Leaf Made the PERFECT Update (And Why New Horizons’s are Failing)

[@Protendo]

_“Wow, THIS aged poorl-”_ Guys. This video was literally me talking about WHY New Horizons updates had been failing. I’m *happy* that we finally got a good one.

[@yololthepikminenjoyer]

yeah, finally

[@mrtonk6162]

yeah hahahah

[@cozmo1916]

@Protendo will you be buying the HHP dlc?

[@raphbylestr2578]

Sadly none of that stuff is really new, it's like NH players forgot NL and HHD existed.

[@leeleeb7413]

@@raphbylestr2578 Nah, I just never played the other games before!

[@David-lk5bt]

It's crazy how the cleanest looking Animal Crossing game feels the emptiest. I feel like they stripped NH of the unique or charming characteristics that make AC games so special.

[@smuglife64gaming21]

Yeah

[@stayhydratedkingsqueens]

Ikr

[@paradoxity_]

they watered it down to cater to a wider audience. Nintendo rolls in the big bucks but the quality goes down, it's no surprise unfortunately

[@balancedbreakfastboy6381]

UNTIL NOW!!!!

[@TrekDelta]

@@balancedbreakfastboy6381 well it sucked.

[@NintendoHero]

I would have rather had New Horizons be a complete game at launch, and then get a huge update later on. The small drip feeding of content that should have been there from day 1 feels pretty frustrating sometimes. But the "complete it later" mindset Nintendo has is a larger problem that isn't specific to Animal Crossing sadly.

[@epicgamer6968]

True why couldent we have all of the holidays on the launch also if they do do an other update they should re add the online island that was in new leaf and not change any of the message fetures to set messages

[@diamondjirachi3820]

@@epicgamer6968 Im fine with the holiday updates, because otherwise we would have been spoiled about those events day 1

[@epicgamer6968]

Well what about all of the older holidays first and the new ones during updates

[@patrickishot0706]

@@epicgamer6968 yes.

[@dcscruz2970]

@@diamondjirachi3820 spoiled? You could just easily stay off the Sm groups and even if it showed the items getting them was the experience.

[@boredpreston]

I feel like new leaf is like an ice cream sundae, and welcome amiibo was the whipped cream and cherry on top. Meanwhile new horizons is a plain bowl of ice cream that we're being spoon fed with them adding topping when they feel like it. It's also taking so long that it's starting to melt.

[@Protendo]

The last two updates were the equivalent of them squirting ketchup into the bowl.

[@MarcusTalks1]

@@Protendo pretty soon this will be a spongebob sundae

[@em3952]

New horizons is like plain icecream with a little bit of syrup swirled in. Occasionally you'll get a tiny hit of syrup in a couple cool items with the updates but the rest is bland

[@MarcusTalks1]

@@em3952 no that’s an insult to plain ice cream and syrup.

[@em3952]

@@MarcusTalks1 plain ice cream and syrup sucks if there's only the tiniest swirl of syrup and its so spread out that it literally only tastes like someone ate a ton of chocolate then burped on ur ice cream

[@jfloww]

They literally had 8 YEARS to write interesting dialogue for villagers and flesh out their personalities so you had an actual reason to talk to them every day. The Wild World team only had 4 years to do so, and they passed with flying colors. It’s not a lack of resources or time, it’s a change in priorities. As a long time fan of the series since I was 5 years old, it’s extremely disappointing to see.

[@thisismyprivateaccount6546]

same

[@princesswandi]

yeah honestly I feel like new horizons only caters to the people who really want to design their island to be their own, and everything else got left in the dust. like terraforming is great and I like making furniture and putting paths where I want but its so overwhelming but theres also like nothing else to do in the game. the villagers are boring to talk to, there's close to no special npcs, there's no mini games or anything. there's fun to be had if *you* yourself make it but that's not what i'm playing for, if that makes sense

[@jfloww]

@@princesswandi totally. Animal Crossing was created because Katsuya Eguchi was homesick and wanted to emulate the feeling of a real community in a video game. New Horizons doesn't feel like a real community you're apart of like the old games did. It feels like a dollhouse you design, and you put the lifeless dolls (villagers) inside to make it look pretty :((

[@shonaghcoleman]

Same new horizons is really lacking in what other games in the series have, it feels like just a ‘build an island’ game and i enjoy terraforming and creating designs and stuff but there’s just nothing else to do, new leaf is a way more enjoyable game and Nintendo really need to do something about it, Ive been playing since GameCube and it’s really a let down 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@dcscruz2970]

It feels like how is SOS feel with the new game. It sounded interesting but now is a tedious game with things that only a part of the fanbase wanted. They gave us a customizing feature when only two entries had it and made the growing trees a damn problem and the love interests lifeless

[@funnygermandoctor]

Not to forget, we actually can meet people online on Tortimer Island while in NH we are just forever alone, unless you have irl friends who have time to play with you.

[@funnygermandoctor]

Exactly!

[@funnygermandoctor]

@einweitereruser I met so many cool people there, someone gifted me a rare item just because I played with him for a short while. I wonder how hes doing rn

[@sachicocoa9013]

And reddit... and a paid for online subscription... The later of which is BS might I add. I have to PAY to connect with people online now?? Unfair! Some people don't have $8-$20 to spare every three months...

[@janeheart2857]

@einweitereruser I know right i literally begged someone for their crown and they gave it to me, wow i was such a bargainer at 11 ;p

[@starryrose6168]

I still don't understand why they changed him from Crazy Redd to Jolly Redd in New Horizons 😭 His whole thing was talking about crazy prices!

[@ongzoro1604]

EXACTLY BRO- LIKE ARE HIS PRICES LIKE- JOLLY-? NOW

[@Xxxfallen_angelxxX]

Ngl idk if this is just me but Redd doesnt feel like Redd in this game at all. He travels in a weird ship, which could fit his character, but like, I'm used to him having a sketchy tent that has "black market" on it. Also when you dont buy anything he just says "...thanks." as if it's a problem that we didnt buy anything. And sure, it is for him since we didnt pay up, but like, in the other games he would blab about how we will definitely see him again and we would definitely buy something. Idk sorry to confused anyone or anything, but Redd doesnt seem like Redd much to me in this game.

[@starryrose6168]

@@Xxxfallen_angelxxX no, I totally get that. He feels a bit more like a Beedle from Phantom Hourglass to me. Not to mention the fact that he even has a boat means he had to get it from someone else in this Nook economy. I doubt many people would sell him a boat. AND ALSO. He doesn't feel like a black market seller anymore because in New Horizons, you find him on your island and talk to him to get in. It feels like he's not trying to stay hidden. And in past games, you had to get villagers to give you a password or invitation to even get into his tent/back alley shop. The whole thing definitely felt more secretive and underground. So I totally get what you mean.

[@ongzoro1604]

@@Xxxfallen_angelxxX fax

[@Xxxfallen_angelxxX]

@@starryrose6168 yeah totally. Now he just feels like he is out in the open and idk New Horizons kind of killed his personality for me. That's why I started to play the gamecube game again, Redd was awesome there.

[@hyperstag]

Have been painfully burnt out on New Horizons for MONTHS now, and I still never completed the museum or got a 5 star island. The only thing that ever kept me coming back was my friends deciding to pick the game as their first ac, and other than helping them I would half-heartedly dip into the trading side. I began to wonder if I just never loved Animal Crossing as much as I thought I did. Then, I decided to restart my New Leaf save after not playing in years, and I've been hooked like never before. There's always something keeping me going back to New Leaf. Can't believe nh was such a boring experience that it literally made me doubt my love for the franchise.

[@RubiixCat]

I burned out pretty quickly too, although I did complete at least the fossil section of the museum and got 5 stars. I ended up taking a break for months and then couldn't get back into it, so I restarted my file and that helped for maybe 2-3 weeks but I got tired of it again. Haven't touched it in ages now.

[@CrashCatalogue]

@@RubiixCat I can never restart my island cuz I made it on launch day and sunk 100+ hours in it. It makes me sad that New Horizons can't compare to a 2012 game on a less powerful console. Just shows that good graphics in games are surface level enjoyment.

[@RubiixCat]

@@CrashCatalogue Likewise, so it definitely was tough wiping it but I thought I'd rather do that than basically never play the game again haha

[@shemdraws]

To be honest, even without the Welcome Amiibo update, I'd argue that base game New Leaf still had much more worth than New Horizons. Welcome Amiibo just turned a great game into an EXCELLENT one. EDIT: Finished the video and found out you basically said this exact thing in the video and I didn't really need to comment this. Ehhhh :/

[@KittyBGaming]

I been playing wild world on the DS because well I like the villagers best there and there’s nothing really like it that holds the sassy sauce. I think this belongs here “Just because something is new, doesn’t make it better” 😊

[@zestymoo]

Wild World was the first Animal Crossing game I ever played! I have so many good memories playing it. I still go back to check up on my town every few months.

[@KittyBGaming]

@@zestymoo new leaf was my first animal crossing game but since people were praising the villagers in wild world, I had to check it out and I’m glad I did 😊

[@zestymoo]

@@KittyBGaming I really need to check out New Leaf. I never got a chance to, but hearing everyone praise it so much I think I've got no other choice at this point lol.

[@epicgamer6968]

I got wild world yesterday along with city folk and their more crazier thdn new leaf i could just feel it in my gut

[@speedymunchlax5733]

This is not the depressing part. It is when you realise that if they've taken this long to decide to bring something substantial in an update (likely the cafe later this year), they're probably not going to add it all, or most, or even a bunch of things back in a single update. Which means by now you've done almost everything there is to do in the game and 2 minutes at the café is all the content the November update will provide. Drip fed updates and Nook Shopping limited time clutter items with forced non-customizable daily colour variations provide false longevity to a starved game.

[@NasikaSakura]

Wow, that last sentence was so well put.

[@starlit-rain]

It‘s also so frustrating how the extension of the Nook shop is not up to us anymore. It’s stuck at one stage because the updates won’t provide the other stages (like Mega Nook). It just sucks.

[@mandyajel]

I don’t know why they don’t do something with harvs island. I mean imagine if we could BUY harvs island and build on it? bring in more villagers, and do more stuff over there while maintaining our original island. Nintendo could do loads but they insist on tiny updates which do sod all for people who have been playing since the beginning.

[@derkatzenmensch220]

I remember how in new leaf it took me multiple years to get everything and while in new horizons it just took me a few months . And the updates dont really give you new goals . So youre stuck on just being done forever

[@lilultime6555]

This aged like milk

[@robertson844]

I went back to playing New Leaf more too. I still check in with my NH island every couple of weeks, but it's just not as engaging as NL. There are a lot of little things in NL that I miss in NH, like wearing a path in the grass if I run the same route through my town every day. Getting a tan in the summer if I forget to put on a hat. Shivering when I get out of the ocean if I go diving in the winter ... these little things that NH should have had at launch is what drove me back to NL. I started going back to NL in February to get my cup of Valentine hot cocoa from Brewster and have kind of stayed because there are still things for me to do in NL and I got NL shortly after it launched. Also, give sheep their scarfs back!!! It's just weird seeing them in full shirts.

[@lisamendez5051]

Hey 👋 I'm still with ACNL ...be my friend 🙋

[@MrDozerTheNapper]

New horizons could have been the ultimate animal crossing game, but sadly it isn't. I still prefer new leaf, if your a new player then new horizons is a good starting point, but for old animal crossing players like me it's definitely not better. :(

[@comphethime4966]

It’s a insult and disservice to new players. They spent their or someone else’s hard earned money in a pandemic on a system and/or game and this is the thanks they get. This is their AC memory.

[@Mwffm]

I have some of the best New Leaf childhood memories… Those summer nights of 2013/2014 catching fish on the island, or playing with my niece and nephew on each other‘s islands for hours were amazing. Even the minigames you could play on the island were SO genius. I got really bored from New Horizons and haven‘t touched it in well over a year. Unfortunately…

[@rincasifutsume]

I'm new to AC myself and spending a year on it, I already felt robbed. I could've bought the physical copy and resell it later because we need money right now because of the pandemic. Makes me wonder what I missed on New Leaf.

[@fakename3208]

@@comphethime4966 you guys need to chill…it’s still a great game and I’ve been a fan since GC

[@antip0is0n]

@@comphethime4966 stop being offended by everything, because of people like u,so much stuff is missing in a lot of new media, cuz companies don't want to offend anyone, even snowflakes like u and actually u are also insulting other people by your comment, u don't respect other people's opinions at all with your statement ... You think u deserve a thanks from other players for playing the game LMAO no one is obligated to thank you. Overall I feel insulted by you 😭😭😭😭

[@micnmindisney]

I thought this game would be like New Leaf but with the decorating outside. I am so sad about this game. I do not like getting DIY recipes repeated constantly. I have played a year and still don’t have everything. They should sell some of these items or the recipe cards in the shop. I miss the island and mini games. That was so fun. This game just never seemed complete at all. And yet we payed full price.

[@LittleV179]

Not gonna lie, I deleted my save file at the beginning of August and I feel better. Yeah it turns out I just don't like island design sims, all the stuff I enjoyed about animal crossing was all the stuff they removed for New Horizons. I'm casually playing New Leaf every few days and even just hopping on and looking at main street is more fun than any time in New Horizons. I thought it would be hard to go back to a game I played for about 5 years (I was late to New Leaf) but it actually isn't and I don't feel any pressure, with New Horizons even the music makes you feel under pressure for your town to be perfect or 100% 5 stars.

[@mayday3830]

Samee. I'm currently playing ACNL: Welcome to Amiibo and it feels like free therapy and no pressure at all.

[@edilychris]

I think, ACNH's problem is its focus on town design. In ACNL, the goal of the game was basically left to the player. Some people wanted a beautiful town, some wanted friends to spend time with, some wanted to collect rare items. All of these things are still possible in ACNH, though Villagers have become more bland and less fun to talk to, so they are basically objects judged by appearance, decorations for your island. Also, for the sake of designing, every single item has become more accessible (like the removal of fortune cookies). ACNH is just Happy Home Designer selling itself as a main installment for the series.

[@featherpheasant3851]

What surprises me is that New leaf on the 3DS was a big game for the system including the update, so how come Nintendo stripped the game into quarters and Nintendo took one quarter and launched it (if you get my metaphor), I just think New Horizons had SO much potential but I feel like the three year wait from Pocket camp could have added so much more than what we got at launch, I dunno about you guys but I’m still hoping more content comes in the future

[@The-O-N]

Personally I think that an incomplete game with updates could work if we didn't wait months for ONE DAY of content, I think that adding more daily's to do overtime could work like if Brewster was added after a few months after launch to add something to do every day, but we wait months for only a day or 2 of content

[@sonictheeagel7758]

Luckily splatoon 3 is now comming up so we won't have to suffer no more with new horizons

[@TheClariceyNad]

Honestly I completely agree with this standpoint. Like this could've been something that worked perfectly! They just didn't do it completely correctly. Like you said, if they added more daily things to do it could've worked and probably been really fun truly!

[@caleahhhh]

i will never forgive nintendo for making a game based around ISLANDS but getting rid of tortimer island then on top of that, tricking me again by adding kap'n but he's essentially just another airport THEN DID IT A 3RD TIME by announcing tortimer himself but he's just a closet on harvey's island like yeah design is cool but you can only decorate your island so much and if you're feeling more design-y you can play the dlc so once you unlock everything in the main game theres nothing to do but look at how pretty your island is and get randomly selected dialogue from your villagers

[@katerosie8960]

But each animal crossing made was an improvement. This one just took ten steps backwards. I don't really understand it.

[@iced_latteZ]

Have we forgotten that you couldn’t even put items outside in the old ones??? I think saying taking ten steps back is a bit of a stretch like…

[@comphethime4966]

@@iced_latteZ Is that a game now? Putting items outside?

[@katerosie8960]

Wow.. putting stuff outside. Super big improvement.. lmao 🤣 did you forget that villagers could visit your house in the old games?

[@iced_latteZ]

@@comphethime4966 This channel is just filled with people circle jerking how "bad" NH is... not surrised by this response lol kinda sad really

[@comphethime4966]

@@iced_latteZ kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGmrqGZ6ZZ2Wi80

[@FubukiCards]

Bruh even though the game should’ve just been more complete at launch, all the people who have been saying “There will be frequent content updates” can now be proven wrong 100%

[@Disig]

You can't blame people for listening to what Nintendo said and believing it. No one realize what Nintendo meant by updates was one or two items.

[@FubukiCards]

@@Disig Nintendo hadn’t even promised frequent content updates, they mainly promised updates for seasonal events

[@Disig]

@@FubukiCards That's not what I read.

[@FubukiCards]

@@Disig Can you give me the source of where you ‘read’ that there will frequent content updates?

[@Disig]

@@FubukiCards Mind giving me your source on when they said small seasonal updates?

[@peachy69420]

Here’s a story about welcome amiibo, I didn’t have WiFi back then so one day I went to my cousins for a sleepover I woke up the next day, got on animal crossing to find out they had updated it

[@p_bot]

for me, new horizons added pretty much all of the things that i DESPERATELY wanted in new leaf, like making the villager system less infuriating (im talking about moving, the void etc not their dialogue), letting you place the buildings (ESP VILLAGER HOMES), letting you put furniture outside, actual pathing, transparent custom designs, etc. etc. etc. and i was also super pleasantly surprised with terraforming. it is *WAY* better in this regard. i guess most of the people who say "new leaf is just better in every way!" weren't playing the decoration game much, but i got inspired to do that once i visited really good dream towns. but you are right... in new leaf, i was so focused on decorating because i looked forward to living in this comfy and beautiful town. in new horizons, i can make it beautiful, but there is no point because i don't want to live in it. (also other weird things like REMOVING old furniture...) it feels weird bc i got everything i wanted but they also took out the important base features that make/break the game for no reason.

[@neheobthe1st]

Thank you for remaining the most based content creator covering Animal Crossing at this point. Everyone is either too afraid of stirring the pot and saying what's actually up, or legitimately in denial. I can't even blame the latter group.. I haven't been as hyped for any game as I was for New Horizons, and to have it have half the content, charm and love as the previous entry is just... crushing. I can safely say New Horizons has permanently killed that bit of childish whimsy in me you get when looking forward to a new game. I just can't bring myself to go through that dissapointment again lmao That being said, I feel the practice of companies releasing games as full-price Beta versions and then finishing them with "free updates" in the following years is simply the sad reality of the industry at this point. From a buisness stand point, why bother releasing another AC like New Leaf, with 3+ years of longevity out the box, when you can cut costs and release a game with 3 months of longevity & patch in a few minor updates over the course of 2 years, for even more profit? Hate to be such a doomer, but NL is likely the last "complete" AC experience there will be. but of course, I'd love to be completely wrong about that.

[@voidoflight2420]

What gets me even more is the fact that this is the future of the series. It sold well enough for them to justify doing this with more animal crossing games, and more Nintendo games as a whole. The whole situation makes me kind of scared for the future of the series, and while I was once excited for new entries in the series, I just can't bring myself to be for the game after New Horizons. I feel like the series is effectively going to die for me at this latest entry..

[@proudkat9790]

Honestly, when I heard about the teriforming and the crafting in new horizons, one of the thoughts I had was "this seems like they're trying to be more like minecraft" they should bring back the more interesting conversation with villagers like from population growing. I like all the coustomizatoion options, but they should make the villagers seem more like people, bring animal crossing back to its roots.

[@Flint_Inferno]

Just got a 3ds recently and bought Animal crossing: New Leaf just because I don't have a switch and couldn't get NH. Had no idea that it is so beloved even now

[@sodajerk.7479]

My friend, that is what stepping into paradise feels like. I hope you're still enjoying the masterpiece that is New Leaf

[@itsd3br33]

One thing I would love is if Nintendo Port New Leaf onto Switch, with New Horizon's Graphics. That would be sick!

[@monalisaYT]

Agree. And you should be able to port your old save data to the new version! That would be sick!

[@dragonnerd1016]

New Horizons was my first Animal Crossing game. I was so excited about it, thinking it added all these new gimmicks, so I wound up getting it at launch. I pumped about 100 hours into it collecting all the bugs, fish, and fossils, while also anticipating new shops and villagers. After a while though, I got super bored of it. I'm not the type to create things in a sandbox environment in games, so seeing a bare island with no idea what to do with it became super frustrating to me. I did return to it a couple times, like when swimming was added, and for certain holiday events like Halloween. I haven't touched the game since Festivale, as I have no motivation to. I wound up buying New Leaf - Welcome amiibo at my Walmart when the 3DS and its games were being discontinued and being sold for dirt cheap at the beginning of this year, and I instantly fell in love with it. I couldn't get over how much content was put into this game. It honestly makes me regret getting New Horizons in the first place, as that one has little to no replay value, while I'm so invested in New Leaf.

[@lisamendez5051]

I'm still playing ACNL welcome amiibo version on my 3DS ...so can we be friends?

[@vixenrevitup]

A lot of this is why I have returned to New Leaf. I played New Leaf a lot when I developed medication-induced depression while fighting a rare neurological disease in 2019. It, along with my dog and my mom’s dog who was dying from cancer (he died about three months after the depression began, but his love for me and my love for him was so powerful), helped me get through that tumultuous time. However, I was finally able to change the medication about a year and a half later (the drug was working so well for the pain that I chose to live with the depression for that long instead of living with said pain), so the depression eased off and I no longer needed that comfort New Leaf provided. You’d think during my time without depression that I would be head over heels playing New Horizons. I was for about six months, then dropped it altogether. Now that my depression has mysteriously returned without provocation (I still have the neurological disease, but it is better managed at this point, so it is not the source), I need that escape. And I want it in the form of New Leaf. I want the friendship I had with Lobo and Stinky back. Sure, I have their Amiibo cards, so they are in my New Horizons island, but they are not the same friends they are to me in New Leaf. I want my Lobo with some cranky charm, not that old man routine he is stuck playing on my island! Stinky’s still the same for the most part as a jock, but he has so much more to say in New Leaf. Talking to them and writing letters to them helped me talk out how I felt. I didn’t have to reveal deep secrets to live people about the way I was feeling on a certain day. I could just tell them, and I would always find an encouraging letter in my mailbox the next time I played! With this bout of depression, I am seeking professional help, but the appointment is not until the end of October. Having New Leaf will be tremendously appreciated during the time before then. I hope a big update can bring me back to New Horizons, but for now, New Leaf it is!

[@kiwi___]

0:53 They didn’t even add in some of the old Mario items either, as well as the Zelda items, and took a million years to add the Sanrio cards back.

[@AESTHETIC-yk3zk]

I stopped playing like 2 months after release because there was no content, its so sad to see that its still as bleak and lacking as it was back then.

[@SoraFan23]

This is what I've been trying to say for the longest time yet these AC defenders didn't seem to get it.

[@AS-cs9gi]

yeah especially on bell tree forums

[@DBtheGhost2]

I've also been saying that 5 - 6 months in. There was only one person I met while playing the game that agreed. If they stayed on my island or let me on their island long enough to have a conversation.

[@DBtheGhost2]

@@ArthurTheEagle I like Raymond as much as the next villager, but he doesn't make the game complete. I actually appreciate all the new villagers but there's so many more of them that were removed. It's nice to see people finally seeing the problems but it took too long for the players to notice. It makes me mad.

[@leonardo.diCATio]

@@ArthurTheEagle Raymond has a lovely design. But, he's just as empty as all the other characters in the game are. I feel like if Raymond was in a previous game where he had life, then they saw the contrast, they'd actually understand. But, since that's the only character they care about and only version they know, it makes that difficult. My favorite character is Julian, and seeing him be degraded to a robot is what made me really lose faith in the game.

[@Disig]

I don't think people who wanted to stay optimistic in its first year of life should be shamed. Some of us trusted Nintendo to do the right thing. We were wrong. Beating us down further is just a jerk move.

[@maravreloaded]

7:30 as a Pokémon fan we all know that feeling. C'mon a 3DS could handle over 800 species but a Switch can't?

[@driplord3844]

i find myself playing new leaf and wild world more than i play new horizons

[@jtcanimations1200]

Same

[@ATrueMouseGamer]

ACNH is just a Happy Home Designer animal crossing, started New Leaf yesterday and I notice a huge difference between interations w/ NPCs, they give you quests, say different stuff every day, ask for something, give you things, visit places, invite you to their homes, go to yours... and I'm just at the beginning.

[@fearharambe3321]

Haha yeah fr I have 800+ hours on New Leaf. It’s a far better and way more fun experience! It’s definitely one of my favorite games. New Horizons was a big step down. How far have you gotten in these past 3 months?

[@Real_JKDOS]

Can they stop hiding Holidays behind updates? That alone would help the game feel more complete.

[@voidoflight2420]

I get why the holidays were behind updates, but the fact that they won't give us smaller holidays that are region specific, like April fools day.. just makes waiting for those bigger holidays less satisfying. Not to mention, those bigger holidays are literally just worse versions of the ones from New Leaf.

[@katerosie8960]

I agree with everything you just said. New horizons is boring in comparison to New leaf and city folk. Where's the entertainment? Where's the shops? There was always something to do in those two games.

[@JadenYukifan28]

I own New Horizons and I do love it...but there is are a few things I don't like about it: one being the fact that if you want to go to a friend's island that is not Local...you need to have a Nintendo Switch online account

[@PokeMaster22222]

For me, the ONE thing that _still_ ruins New Horizons for me, that will likely never return, is Resetti losing his job as the anti-resetting punishment. I _loathe_ auto-save, as it means I cannot listen to Resetti's hilarious and over-the-top rants; in the older games, I'd purposefully reset my game just to hear how he'd insult me and get angry this time. It was funny, and it provided a necessary sense of characterisation - _of course_ someone would get mad if you broke the rules and reset the day.

[@dordly]

New Horizons was great when it released because it was at the same time everyone felt like they were on an island, separated from friends and family. But after getting over the hype of the graphics and new features it quickly became boring because even after the 2.0 update there's still nothing to bring you back every day especially when the multiplayer is pointless and villagers still suffer from botched lobotomies

[@sodajerk.7479]

It's like I always say: *"Better graphics do not make a better game."* I get that this video's a year old rn, but even with the 2.0 New Horizons update, New Leaf still had way more designs, features, and the overall look/feel of the game was absolute perfection. (I can go on for *ages* pointing out the things and features New Leaf has that New Horizons doesn't have, Like oh I don't know...BADGES? Maybe even...MORE TYPES OF FRUIT?) Granted, you can terraform and place furniture outside (hell, you can even cook now) in New Horizons, but I still get blown away with how creative players can get in New Leaf with their towns, some of those towns I daresay even put some New Horizons towns to shame, despite New Horizons having terraforming and the ability to place furniture outside (more freedom, right?) I can proudly say that I grew up playing the game that had so much love poured into it, that is Animal Crossing: New Leaf

[@froggycolouring]

I honestly like old graphics more than new graphics New graphics just feel plane and sterile whereas old graphics have defined shape and experiment a bit more Plus it lets you fill in the gaps yourself with your own imagination Also I’m pretty sure theres already a mod adding furniture outside to new leaf

[@shinrasboy]

I played New Leaf for about seven years. Some of my best memories was starting at college super early in the morning with a few of my friends every single day going to each others villages and doing cool stuff. There was just so much to do! I really miss it. I still pop in every now and again, but I hold hope that new horizons can get more features.

[@irunonwindows]

The music from New leaf is better. Music was a deal breaker.

[@Terminaut1]

I think one of the bigger issues with the new animal crossing is that there is heavy reliance on online play. And with the heavy reliance on online play, being unable to play online because you have to pay for it this time, text away a lot of the joy of animal crossing. The villagers are collectibles. And the people with any character are online. There needs to be more focused on single player and interesting characters.

[@Tmaster2006YT]

New horizons was incomplete at launch, this is ALWAYS detrimental to games (that I’ve seen) because the new content updates feel patched on and in this case you can see the stitches clear as day. New leaf felt fun because it was a complete package at launch, had charming dialogue and daily progression, while NH takes a week to give you access to all the buildings, hell, you only have access to a small area of your island until 3 real life days of playing! Final thought, there’s content in new leaf that will NEVER be added to new horizons, the club being one of the most notable, which is really disappointing honestly.

[@KUIJEN8659]

I bought new horizons on launch, played it for a few weeks and went back to new leaf. It felt like I've wasted my money especially because I bought new leaf for €30 while having more to offer.

[@katiebelle5405]

I only played New horizons for about 3 months. Just bought the switch in March of this year (2021) couldn't get into it. Loved it at first but it was so void of things to do I was burnt out before I even finished building my island.

[@OntarioBirding7538]

Acnh has a problem with shops. It needs all of the shops back. DJ K.K. Fortune Teller, Dream Suite (Well it kinda is because of the beds) It needs to reset Nook’s Cranny into Nookling Junction, Kicks Shop, Shampoodle (Get Rid Of Hairstyles) Police, Reset Centre, Post Office, Happy Home Academy & Showcase, Museum 2nd Floor, Campground, Original Fish, Creatures, Bugs, Fossils, & Art, Photo Booth, Retail, & That’s about it. Also it needs all the old beautiful features.

[@vomitonastick9197]

The next AC game should combine all of the strengths of previous titles instead of stripping them away like Horizons.

[@Elmina202]

I wish Nintendo didn’t discontinue the 3DS even though I just brought one from the game store it’s not brand new .. I feel as if the 3Ds has better games in general as well as new leaf being a legendary game..

[@quantafreeze]

I agree, it was half baked at launch. I just assumed they would parse out new fun stuff every couple of updates, but they released swimming and that's it.

[@titaneum9243]

Playing my 3ds XL after taking a 4 year break, I can’t believe how much I’ve missed new leaf after getting bored of new horizons

[@josesuarez1711]

Restarting a new island by selling mine and staying with all my items cataloged will be so satisfying.

[@guineapig5858]

I played new leaf for quite a few years and did not get bored of it, I loved going off to the island and upgrading the shop to finally get Gracie Grace, do coffee for Brewster, make different furniture, plan times to meet with villagers in my house, dive around, then in New horizons I can't even invite a villager in. New horizons looked epic at the time but now I'm just bored of it, I didn't fully finish designing my island and I don't have the motivation to either where as I did in New leaf. I look in my house in New leaf and think, omg I made it epic! I look in New horizons and my favourite furniture isn't even there. I loved the lion heads that spewed out water and the aurora partition. That one lion head and I could have made a really interesting section.

[@pandabean]

7:24 - Sonic fans: "First time?"

[@chuganoga1908]

This is exactly why you shouldn’t go into any purchase based on pure emotion. This game was praised in ways that made no sense at all, its proped up as “the best animal crossing” but yet lacks in content even population growing on GC could put to shame in comparison. It’s definitely my least favorite of the bunch and only makes me want to go back to new leaf, hell I went all the way back to population growing and found new love and appreciation for that title in ways I took for granted when I was younger.

[@ihrtaida]

when i first got animal crossing, i had bought the welcome amiibo version. i have no clue what nl was like before the update, but the way you said it puts in perspective for me

[@kamakazeyt]

I feel like Nintendo thought the whole island terraforming and design aspect meant they didn’t have to include as many shops, events, items etc. Clearly though this was not true.

[@CorVids1031]

I'm at an odd point where I like designing, but the main point for me is the animals themselves. I designed my heart out in New Horizons, but I didn't do it purely because I wanted to. I did it because I knew that the rest of the game was completely lacking. Went as far as I could. Did 7 player houses. And now I'm starting a new save file in new leaf. This new town is more inviting to me than the island I spent literally thousands of hours designing.

[@ducktail4068]

I'm just glad more and more people are starting to see what a bad game new horizons is in animal crossing standards. It only took me 1 week after launch to start criticizing the game because it only took me 1 week to see how much was missing. People told me to shut up because they were enjoying the hype train, blinded by newcomers and the fact the game was doing so well. While I'm sitting here thinking to myself, but wait a minute.....there's so much gone? Doesn't anyone care? It saddens me it takes everyone a year to finally open their eyes. Better late than never though.

[@Skippyxlxlxl]

I just really miss the 3ds days so much.

[@KiraCuraMusic]

New Leaf > Horizons Hands Down (New Leaf is better)

[@saenschi]

My first AC Game was Wild World and i loved it. Then came New Horizons. I was so excited. In the first place i was hyped but then it bores me so much. Because i'm not the type for terraforming. I like it to talk to my neighbours have a connection with them and have various tasks to do. But in NH this completly didn't work for me. My boyfriend bought me a 3DS with New Leaf and what should i say. I love it! Everything i miss in NH is there. Its such a great game. Sorry for my bad english..

[@shrimpified4413]

Can you imagine a remake of new leaf for switch? I'd like to play it, maybe add freedom of moving things around like in new horizon

[@turtleashes4371]

The big reason is covid. Nintendo would be stupid to not released it when they did. Weather they planned to released dirtying covid is not at least to me known but I think they released it durning that time because they knew that it would sell. Now Nintendo doesn’t care

[@voidoflight2420]

Covid isn't an excuse for why the game itself turned out the way it did. The game was in production before Covid even happened, and they didn't just release it at the start of quarantine just because "People need a game to cope through". It's just that they had a new director, and a new president at Nintendo with a new business strategy. They saw how well Splatoon kept going because of the "free update" model that they had, so they thought that any game with online would work the same. Mario Tennis Aces suffered from having no content at launch, with it being drip fed to the player through the years. New Horizons is no exception. It just sucks that they have the mentality now of "release now, fix later" for their games with online components. Nintendo used to be better than this, but now they've fallen. I don't think the series will be back to the way it originally was anymore, given that New Horizons sold so well. New Horizons is how they'll handle future games in the series, and I hate it..

[@turtleashes4371]

@@voidoflight2420 Actually I agree with you. And your right. I feel like the only way to change this is to not buy there games I guess idk what else

[@turtleashes4371]

@@voidoflight2420 I actually realy agree with this. The only way to stop them is if they stop making money from it. And the only way to do that is to stop buying the games. Which like people are not gonna do that unless somehow the animal crossing community can somehow not buying any new animal crossing games that is the only sloughing I can think off.

[@duckgotdrip]

We Got 2.0! 2months after this video

[@Foxshir0]

Animal Crossing has always been a decorating game, but you used to have a lot more life in the NPCs so you never felt alone.

[@voidoflight2420]

It was always a decorating game, but it had life sim elements as well. There was way more to do in previous games, including new leaf, that expanded upon just decorating, and New Horizons failed to even do them. Things like badges, collecting all the fruit, more shops, shop upgrades, things to sink your bells into, better villager interactions, smaller holidays specific to each region, multiplayer Mini-games, etc. There was never a dull moment, given there were always things to be doing.

[@Foxshir0]

@@voidoflight2420 To be fair, NH does have achievements, fruits, shop upgrades (Although not as much.) and they have been adding a lot of smaller updates for lesser known holidays. The Multiplayer does need a huge boost, but even New Leaf's multiplayer got old super fast. I do miss the villager's dialogue being more expansive though. I love seeing them sit, eat, and do stuff, but I wish they didn't have to sacrifice the dialogue content.

[@voidoflight2420]

@@Foxshir0 The lesser known holidays are just items though, not actual events. New Horizons has fruits, yes, but New Leaf had way more. New Horizons has like one single shop upgrade, as opposed to past games where there were multiple. There's an achievement system, but it's not as good as previous games, as most are the rewards are pointless after a while.

[@BoshiYoshi]

ACNH was my first game in the series. I lasted longer than any of my friends, but even I've finally gotten burned out and stopped playing for the most part. It really makes me sad because I WANT to play, but there's nothing for me to do. Even something as simple as letting players have multiple islands would be enough to get me right back into the game. I have so many ideas for islands I'd love to make, so many villagers I'd love to hunt for. But I'm pretty satisfied with my island and my villagers, so I don't want to demolish what I've spent the past year and a half building and I'm too attached to current villager roster to let them go. With only 3 art pieces left to obtain and only 15 DIYs left that I don't care about, there's no reason for me to play anymore and that really depresses me. My critterpedia is complete, none of my friends play anymore and when they do boot up the game, there's absolutely nothing for us to do together. Bug Off and Fishing Tournaments have never been refreshed with new prizes. I have over 400k Nook Miles with nothing to spend them on, over 12 million bells with nothing to spend them on. I have nothing left to work towards except a handful of incredibly tedious nook mile quests, some of which would take literal years without time traveling. And even if I wanted to redo my island, it feels pointless because there's so little interesting furniture and items to decorate with that it feels like you're basically forced to download a bunch of pretty custom patterns and decorate your island with them if you want to make it look good. And I don't want to fill my island with custom patterns, I'm already suffering from pop-in item loading now. So that just further kills my motivation to do anymore terraforming or changes (not to mention how tedious and frustrating terraforming is). When I look at all the things to do in New Leaf, the hundreds of amazing missing furniture items from that game, the missing NPCs, the minigames and ...don't even get me started on the incredible stuff Pocket Camp gets on a monthly basis.... it just really makes me jealous and makes me pine for so many things I never even knew I was missing out on when I started New Horizons.

[@melodysoundy7627]

Whilst I am tempted to go back to new leaf because of the small updates new horizons has had I am literally drip feeding myself with new horizons because I don't want to go back to the old games as due to their being no option to customize your skin it feels super super unwelcoming for non white players. At this point a port would make new Leaf fans much happier whilst adding in stuff from new horizons. As I'm a customisation kind of person and love the creativity and expression. I've lost my patience with Nintendo specifically because they've chosen convenience over quality. Harriet was one of my most favourite npcs from new Leaf and I'd rather have that Mystery make over idea you suggested.

[@opensauce04]

You can change your skin colour in NL I believe

[@firesnakex8]

You can change your skin color in New Leaf but its a bit complicated. You can either get a tan at the island or you can use your mii mask which changes the color of your characters skin while wearing the mask

[@fiertheflame4832]

I didn't realize some people can actually have issues when their in game character has a different skin color, legitimately that's something I've never thought about. Very interesting. I guess we're all different, I'm not white either and never really felt anything.

[@guineapig5858]

In nl, make sure you have your 3ds on charge, wear your swimsuit, no hat and no face thing, swim out to the sea on the island, and just leave it, depending on how dark you want your skin to be. If you go to dark, put a cucumber pack on or bandage so you can still see your face and wait till you get to the one you want to be.

[@ducktail4068]

You guys have to remember, new leaf had the island AND club tortimer which was basically ONLINE MULTIPLAYER WITH RANDOM PEOPLE. You didn't have to add anyone, they were complete strangers and you could talk to them in the chat

[@zozoizz]

I almost don’t like that New Horizons has too many options! You can change to much way to easily. New leaf gave us something to work for, even the small stuff like public works projects and buildings! I can get New horizons and in less then two months of daily playing, no time travel, have all fossils, all buildings, and much more then two months in New Leaf! New leaf has α simplicity that New Horizons simply doesn’t have. Edit: of course I LOVE animal crossing and I love New Horizons regardless of the hate. We always want more and Nintendo drip feeding us content makes us thirsty and want more. I honestly think the game is fine how it is BUT it is not the best animal crossing game in my opinion. It has flaws of course and missing simple things that are easy to fix. I just miss the simplicity of making something out of your town out of nothing! And I miss all the activities you can do with friends!

[@bulgogibongs]

One thing is the dialogue. Bruh like deadass the villagers in new leaf are so intresting and weird that I actually enjoy talking to them while in new horizons they all say the same shit if they are the same personality type and they are just so boring and predictable.

[@calamaria9221]

I still can't believe they never put in the ability to at least bulk crafting.

[@crow6977]

My first animal crossing game was new leaf and i got it around the time welcome amiibo brought it popularity again. I was immediately obsessed, and when i couldn't afford a switch i was heartbroken i wouldn't be able to enjoy the next game, but its really sad how this is what ive been missing out on

[@reloadpsi]

Please accept my sincerest apologies but I'm gonna be that guy right now: the title should read Horizons'. You don't need an extra S when you're doing a possessive on a noun that already ends in S. Yes it's stupid, but it is what it is :P Anyway I always liked the fact that a bunch of content was kept out of the early game to discourage people time travelling and posting spoilers. It's a social simulator with seasonal content so I think it made sense. If it were any other game, I'd have despised it for it.

[@justyourbud]

I think doing it with seasonal content is acceptable honestly, because I understand Nintendo might want people to experience the holidays when the time comes instead of spoiling it a whole 6-8 months ahead. BUT leaving out art, the roost, swimming, rock sitting, etc at launch or at all is absurd and clearly a symptom of releasing the game too soon.

[@TheScienceguy77]

The new update still doesn't address the core problems of NH. They're just doing damage control.

[@babs1232]

Like what?

[@abbiepancakeeater52]

exactly. i was never excited for the update and honestly annoyed people were hyping it up so much when i knew itd fall short.

[@avalonianwanderer2876]

The new update is brilliant. What do you think are the "core problems" of New Horizons? (I'm waiting in anticipation for the usual complaints that it isn't like New Leaf).

[@avalonianwanderer2876]

@@abbiepancakeeater52 It didn't fall short at all. We now have Brewster, Kapp'n, Harv's Island co-operative, Katrina, cooking, new characters, new items, new DIY recipes, the list goes on. And there's the DLC. What more do you expect? You need to realise that a game doesn't "fall short" just because it hasn't given you everything you wanted. Try appreciating what they have added to the game.

[@abbiepancakeeater52]

@@avalonianwanderer2876 try letting people have differing opinions instead of attacking them for not agreeing with you.

[@jawggy2260]

The main problem with games today is that they just mainly focus on aesthetics. Games like Sims 4 and NH are just so... boring. Every NPC just feels like a robot and after a few days you're already bored. This is why i just stopped playing most newer games in general, they're so lackluster and feel very incomplete. I've had NH since a few hours before it was supposed to be released, and I've already reset my island TRIPLE the times I spent resetting in the past decade I've been playing NL. It's quite sad.

[@GrimGamer9]

“Animal crossing new horizons is dying” Froggy Chair: allow me to introduce myself

[@bexbrown8573]

I stopped playing this game a few months after it came out. I have no interest in resculpting a whole island! I love just placing a few furniture items out there and building up into more of a town etc with actual buildings. The way people would just want to come see my town I felt really deflated because I have no creativity and didn't care about making random ass waterfalls in the middle of a spars land. I thought I was the only one to feel like this until this year more people have been opening up about it! It's more of a sim building game than a sim living game and I hate that

[@HengillDesigns]

He does have a point, although are we being too critical? The game itself is a little more complicated than we think and thus us begging for new content would just slow down production, right?

[@AS-cs9gi]

I don't understand how some people think new horizons is better

[@Twat_Dirt]

Probably new ac players who haven't played the older games

[@fearharambe3321]

New players who never played the other AC games for sure

[@user-ws1dd6sr9i]

I love your ac videos they're so entertaining (I probs watched the one year review 5 times by now lol)

[@dangofluff2193]

Ok i legit thought i was the only weirdo rewatching his reviews and talks like 8 different times for entertainment 😂💙

[@ColinColtrane]

don’t worry. new horizons is a test of patience so we can learn to wait for the next animal crossing game

[@stuffz1757]

So keep in mind that the upstairs to the museum and the slots in the Nook Miles app for things like diving and the holidays were in the game at launch, meaning a lot of the first years updates were potentially removed from the game intentionally.

[@voidoflight2420]

Yep. That was their plan, and that's usually their plan for games that have online activity, unless they're supposed to be singleplayer focused. Animal Crossing is usually considered by the fans to be primarily singleplayer, but to Nintendo it's considered one of their multiplayer games like Kirby Star Allies, Mario Tennis Aces, and Mario Golf.

[@makotonarukami7468]

Looking back...given the amount of sales it got, and many new comers like me at that time...I strongly believe that they were not trying to cater 100% to fans of the previous games, they were more focused on new consumers like me being introduced to the series. When I had a 3DS I over looked it, but was kinda aware of it, but really didn't delve deep into playing it. So when it was 2020, weeks after release, I decided to give it a try. And at the time, I was so focused at work that time flew by, and I wanted playing this game every once and a while. Fast forward to April 2023, I'm going to McDonald's today to re-download it seeing as I suddenly started to be interested in it again due to wanting thr nostalgia feel that I want to recapture, and since I am currently playing new leaf at the moment, I want to the thr switch version due to our much more they updated thr QOL with the added phone, and storage of all things, and moving things inside the house.

[@davidochoa774]

They should have instead released New Leaf remastered on the Switch

[@ramenated7244]

In the aspect of design and decorating, the games amazing, but in terms of an animal crossing game, its really disappointing. Half the villagers talk the exact same way and feel like clones and theres not enough content to keep me satisfied, but im still a die hard fan and i am enjoying NH. Im probably going to make a brand new NL file soon though

[@reese60678]

Every day that does by, I’m getting more and more tempted to buy New Leaf

[@sophie14263]

i honestly just want everything from new leaf but the new horizon graphic

[@JSO-ts9du]

I like new horizons. I had a few month break where I didn’t play because it felt grindy, but i found cool designs people made and how people decorated and made diff themes, and felt inspired to play again.

[@ejakaegypt]

I feel if new horizons gave us the entire game(instead of making them updates) it would’ve been more enjoyable to play

[@ZeroSable]

You have a wonderful smile, Eddie.

[@ejakaegypt]

@@ZeroSable that’s a nice thing to say. I appreciate it 😃

[@FeTetra]

I thought that new horizons was moderate for an ac game honestly. I felt as that it was far too focused on people trying to be creative with the game. Which is cool and all, but it didn't really have that much to offer. It was like your mother handing you a box of chalk and saying go outside and use your imagination. I liked the older games like new leaf and wild world because of the more story/objective-based game play. But now new horizons has gotten a good bit better from the time of this videos release, so that's cool ig.

[@ayaya3182]

personally not being able to collect the items I need to decorate my island is the reason I stopped playing new horizon. I was so frustrated playing every day and getting almost nothing out of the game. then seeing people on youtube sharing their amazing island I felt disappointed in myself and stopped playing the game completely. in previous animal crossing games, this was not a problem for me as I always managed to get cool items with time and hard work. but with new horizon no matter how much I try I always find the same items and nothing new or cool for me to place on my island... I know one day ill pick the switch up again and give the game another try but for now, I would keep my distance T v T

[@iamjohnporter67]

This is something that new players who played New Horizons still don't seem understand. Its really bothering me how they still defend this game.

[@olivebot257]

nintendo gave us new skin colors and decided that was enough

[@comphethime4966]

😂💀

[@EricasTouch]

I picked up New Leaf and Wild World over the last few months for my various DS systems. I am disappointed in the fact that out of all 3, New Leaf is now my new favorite of all 3 main games. It has so much to do every day compared to New Horizons. The fact that I can convert the Meow Coupons to Bells when I need to makes it much better. The tasks completed to get the coupons are much simpler also. I just won the Fishing Tournament today in New Leaf with a 230 inch oar fish. I don’t know if I would have been able to do this in New Horizons. I can’t wait for many other big and fish tournaments in this game.

[@pineapplepearjuice6717]

One Big problem i found in NH is The holidays. AC holidays have always been super fun but for some reason, they decided to change every holiday. Now this IS not all bad since in theory It can make them refreshing experiences but for some reason new horizons has to have The blandest most boring holidays in The story of ac, maybe just avobe Wild worlds, investigating wich Toys villagers want during december, gessing what villagers are scared of to get Candy out of em... Even The bug catching and fishing tournaments have been severely toned down, they arent even a competition now! Each holiday had some fun way to interact with villagers really highlighting how important they were to The core Gameplay of animal crossing.

[@plaguster]

I still play animal crossing new leaf. Trying to do everything I can to both complete it and make it look nice.

[@chiimumango3979]

Now that New Horizons is dead beyond repair, I guess it's time to call it quits and it's also time to unleash my true colors

[@Lxzbs]

Im buyin a 3ds JUST to play new leaf (i never had a 3ds as a kid) and im very sure of it that if i start playin new leaf i will probably never return to new horizon and I’ll gladly do so

[@Goopy731]

New Leaf is p banger broskie. Tools like the golden axe never break and the homebrew scene for wumiibo that lets u emulate amiibos and at max pop let's you kick out villagers and put in your own roster. My favs across saves and games are finally a reality all in one town. All technically possible too but not giving nintendo a dime, granted, I use my new leaf cartridge to save space. Sure some features are lacking such as paths, things to place down in the main town other than making roads and gardens to connect the neighbhorhood, but overall very solid, place to grind bells like the island catching beetles and sharks. New Leaf for me really is the perfect balance of just enough control, but not an over encompassing god-like one. Then plenty of things to find yourself doing, creating and making it you and your villager's town while also a connection to your villagers. The list goes on for me in what I can do, other than the original gamecube animal crossing, new leaf is my go to choice for any AC fans.