Protestant Two Kingdom Theology

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[@torcoffee2747]

Makes more sense to me to think of different spheres of government- family, church, state. Christ is Lord over them all

[@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast]

That makes sense, but it’s not the same issue. 2K is a division between temporal and eternal while spheral authority is a division between the hierarchies administering temporal authority.

[@torcoffee2747]

@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast the two kingdoms I see in Scripture is that of the world and that of God. Good vs evil. But these theologians seem to be saying something quite different

[@TheFlyingDutchman85]

@@torcoffee2747 Well, what do you mean by the world against God? Do you mean that Scripture teaches that church members should take up the sword against non church members? Or do you mean that Scripture teaches that the spiritual forces of the world (aka, not the Kingdom of God) are against the spiritual forces of God? To me, Scripture teaches the latter, and interviewees wouldn't disagree. So the division of invisible and visible makes sense for the two kingdoms. The war going on in the invisible realm is really one for souls. It's Satan warring against God. And this surely impacts the visible realm, but in the visible it's not quite the same. It IS good vs evil, to be sure, but not on soul level, if you will. The visible realm is to uphold justice, to punish lawlessness, and to maintain order in society. It's much more temporally focused.

[@micahlantz905]

Man I tell you what... eschatology is becoming so very important! The position you hold of eschatology will affect all this so much

[@opiekins6961]

Very thought provoking and for me, looking seriously into so I can understand better. Thank you.

[@johnw1743]

The Nigerian Anglican woman argument made me think of Prov 27:10 'Better is a neighbour near than a brother far away.' There is a purely practical aspect to be considered when it comes to proximity.

[@Bob-be2pj]

Clear as mud. As articulated here, this two kingdom theology offers no practical guidance to the issues of our day (or perhaps any day).

[@mikeashleigh777]

I found this conversation very convoluted. When you hear John MacArthur discussed these issues and watch him actually live out the reality of being in the kingdom of Christ as we simultaneously live in this world, it seems very clear how it is that we ought to view these things. It also seems very clear that we have responsibilities in both realities and they do Necessarily intersect and overlap to a certain degree and it is abundantly clear where our foremost and ultimate allegiance must be to live and die in the kingdom of Christ.

[@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast]

Over the years MacArthur has publicly said the church shouldn’t be involved in politics, that the only thing he wants the government to do is make sure he doesn’t get shot at on the way to church on a Sunday, that the moral majority is wrong, that the church should reject the Democratic Party, that the church should shut down when the government says to via Rom 13, that the government can’t tell the church what to do, that it doesn’t matter who’s in the white house, and that he supports Trump. Love John MacArthur but baffled a little by the comment.

[@ThomasCranmer1959]

Mac is 2k

[@ThomasCranmer1959]

@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast Mac is 2k

[@mikeashleigh777]

@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast Baffled in what regard? We obey the civil magistrates to the extent we are able and humbly descent when it encroaches on our fidelity and allegiance to God. He is for Trump to the degree Trump is not advocating for unrestrained unrighteousness in the way the opposition does. He goes with the lesser evil as you and I have done. The Christian is not a political beast. Vote your conscience as far as it is held captive by the truth of the gospel. Pray for your nation and its leaders. Pray that the Fathers will is being done and that His kingdom comes and His will be done.

[@GerardPerry]

@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast If you go back and listen to John Macarthur's first sermon at Grace Community Church, he's been pretty consistent from the beginning. The kingdom of God and this world are perpetually at odds, and cannot be reconciled. We need to be a light unto the world and will antagonize it if we adhere to scripture.

[@micahlantz905]

Every square inch does indeed belong to our Lord! ALL authority in heaven AND EARTH has been given to Jesus.

[@ryangallmeier6647]

But Preterists/Postmillennialists fail to see that while Jesus Reigns on His THRONE in heaven (cf. Rev. 12:5), the Antichrist has a THRONE, too: "...to it (the Sea Beast/Antichrist) the dragon gave his power and his THRONE and great authority." (Rev. 13:2). And, we know that the Antichrist will sit its THRONE until the 2nd Coming of Christ: "...whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of HIS COMING," (2 Thes. 2:8). Yes, God's Prophetic Word MATTERS! Preterism is in tremendous error, and is an abandonment of the Reformation. Futurism is in tremendous error, and is an abandonment of the Reformation as well. Historicism was the Protestant Reformation view of Bible prophecy, until Futurism and Preterism (Jesuit constructs) infected otherwise Bible-believing churches with their nonsense. Questions? Let me know. *Soli Deo Gloria*

[@micahlantz905]

@@ryangallmeier6647 all authority has been given to Me in heaven AND on earth! You cannot miss this!

[@ryangallmeier6647]

@@micahlantz905 Notice how you didn't answer my response? You have apparently missed the SCRIPTURES I cited. And in what 2 Ways does Jesus posses authority "in heaven" AND "on earth"? 1). Redemption of His people; and, 2). Judgement of the 'not my people'. Has the Glorification of the Saints happened yet? Has the Final Judgement of Satan's children happened yet? Proper Systematic Theology (esp. Eschatology) is important, here. Questions? Let me know. *Soli Deo Gloria*

[@craigchambers4183]

As a pastor I consider it my work to go to the Word of God and exegete it to speak to the members of the body of Christ on the way we are to follow our Lord in this life. Often there are teachings from Him that clarify things from both sides of an issue, whether by His actions during His earthly ministry or His revelation of spiritual truths, and both reveal the mind and heart of God on all matters that pertain to life, both physical and spiritual because we consist of both by creation. So, God has revealed everything we need for all of life, both material and immaterial. The Word of God, His authority expressed to us and to all, is sufficient for all things. It speaks to our salvation from before creation to the events of this created order that brings about reconciliation, our salvation that was consummated (Romans 8) beginning with regeneration and continuing through this life when it will be fulfilled in our resurrection, our glorification. Jesus said His kingdom was not of this world. He separated this world’s wicked system that envelops all nations and governments in this temporal, this temporary order from His righteous, holy kingdom that exists both in this world now and will continue on as it is an eternal kingdom. This world system is in rebellion, but His rule remains and cannot be prevailed against. This world system will pass away, be destroyed, and all that will remain will be the righteous kingdom that is of God. Remembering that the eternal kingdom is both physical and spiritual, we are waiting for His return to fulfill everything in regard to the judgment He will execute over this present opposition. How we live in this present system is in the truth of His kingdom already ruling within our regenerate being with its demands over our personal life in the here and now. We have not been instructed to be belligerents toward the people of this world, making war to physically fight the good fight of this temporal realm, but engaging ourselves in the fight we find in us (Galatians 5) which is the holy spirit we have in our nature, being also inhabited by the Holy Spirit of God, against our flesh, the remaining unregenerate body we live in now. Generally, there are two commands of God that stand out as first and second. The first to love God, and the second to love our neighbor, and in that priority so that we live as God’s people in the midst of a perverted world where we are engaged in doing what is right for all. This brings wrath against us by the world, to be sure. Yet, we live for Christ and we proclaim the righteousness of God and also know that His law is good and to actually love our neighbor, our community, our nation is to promote His law through peaceful means. Cries of “Christian nationalism” is a straw man argument against the idea of fighting by conflating the mode of it being force with that of reasoning. The theocracy of this world is the ‘god’ of this world; our theocracy is the rule of Christ now in our hearts and then in future rule first over this world system and then the new world without any reference to the decay of sin. I would hope all millennial views make the distinction between the use of deadly force weapons for the good of this world and that of using our own life’s reflection of the law of God that offers peace among neighbors when they embrace it, for it is written in their own hearts. Can this be reduced to a bumper sticker? “For peace, obey your Creator.” Eh, maybe. But to the point of this discussion of two kingdom theology, “Our King now and forever” might do, at least for those who know what is being talked about.

[@joes973]

Fire codes violate the scope of the magistrate. Magistrates are not authorized to punish for exceeding a given risk tolerance *prior* to injury. The fire code analogy is strong because no one wants to see images of burn victims, but the principle behind them will 100% lead you to forced masking, and your cries of, "but that's a wisdom issue and the magistrate isn't being wise" will get you nothing.

[@doctrinalwatchdogactive6454]

How about a verse or passage with a simple definition? Otherwise this just may be another issue to divide over.

[@craigchambers4183]

"My kingdom is not of this world." The rest is describing what that means.

[@theclawmd]

What I’m hearing is that we should conclude two kingdoms based upon practical/pragmatic reasons rather than Scriptural emphasis. Scripture does continually demonstrate two kingdoms, but not as represented in the podcast: the kingdom of God/heaven vs the kingdom of darkness: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Colossians 1:13-14

[@ThomasCranmer1959]

Romans 13 says there are governmental authorities which are ordained by God. There are other places in Scripture which refer to the earthly kingdom in contrast to the spiritual kingdom.

[@mrleemrleeohmrlee]

I'm not sure how this is different from theonomy, or at least the theonomy espoused by Doug Wilson, Jeff Durbin, James White, Joseph Boot, and Joel Webbon among others. The magistrate should honor the God of Scripture, but this is something that takes a long time--generations or even centuries as the gospel is preached and hearts are transformed. As a result, the laws of that society are conformed to be in line with the Law of God as it's people demand those types of laws/ If this dual kingdom theology is somehow opposed to theonomy, it seems most likely opposed to the strawman theonomy that the pagans and the Gospel Coalition screeches about.

[@craigchambers4183]

"Screeches" is an appropriate description of the voice of TGC against wanting God's law, even that written on the heart, to have any influence in culture/government unless one conflates Marx and Jesus.

[@sierragrey7910]

Great discussion. Glad to see this topic discussed so well.

[@michealferrell1677]

I have read Dr Vandreunens book on the two kingdoms and have also been influenced by the Dr white and Jeff Durbin teachings . I love and respect all who are seeking the correct view for the purpose of ordering life in a god honoring way . I have to say that the two kingdoms approach appears to solve the most problems but I’m still learning and seeking to be humble with regard to what I might some day have strong convictions about . It looks like from my vantage that there are many good Reformers today who could iron this out a good bit for us by their continual debate and discussions .

[@micahlantz905]

The government has NO RIGHT to tell the church we can't meet! Jesus is Lord of the church! This conversation is making me upset 😡

[@c.m.granger6870]

Christ has one kingdom, don't fall into the secular and sacred, inward and outward, spiritual and physical, temporal and eternal distinctions. It's error. Your guest doesn't identify what "absurdity" one kingdom leads to, he only declares it to be absurd. The existence of the temporal and eternal doesn't force one to conclude there are two kingdoms. That's a non sequitur. Two kingdom doctrine is erroneous theologizing. There is a rival power attempting to rule this world, Satan, but that fact doesn't mean there are now two kingdoms.

[@elijahgrajkowski2505]

So would you say that there are two kingdoms, one (Christ’s) being the kingdom of light and the other (Satan’s) being the kingdom of darkness, rebellion and opposition to God)…? I’m continuing to look at verses like Colossians 1:20, Matthew 5:5, 6:10, 28:18 and asking myself what area of life and human existence isn’t under the lordship of Christ. Are there areas of life that Christ has nothing to say about and doesn’t care about?

[@c.m.granger6870]

@@elijahgrajkowski2505 No, there isn't. Christ rules all, including hell. My point is that there was one kingdom before the Fall and a second kingdom wasn't created because of the Fall. But that is what two kingdom theology teaches implicitly.

[@elijahgrajkowski2505]

@@c.m.granger6870 Makes sense. Satan is currently bound (Luke 11:20-23, Rev. 20:1-3) and therefore can only do what Christ allows him to do, like the rabid dog chained to a post. He can do a lot of damage, but Christ is ultimately in control of it (Luke 8:28-33).

[@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast]

What specifically is your objection?

[@c.m.granger6870]

@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast My objection is it creates the theological framework for the church to retreat from secular society and culture. Its one of the reasons we're in the state we're in today -- increasing secularism and weakening influence of the church. Christ only has one kingdom in Scripture which undergoes a historical progression. Two kingdoms theology flattens that historical progression and asserts there must be two kingdoms.

[@micahlantz905]

Even MacArthur says clearly that we "Christians" lose here on earth. I say that's wrong! The earth will be filled With the knowledge of the glory of the Lord as the waters cover the sea

[@sarahd5341]

Amen! 🙌🏻

[@ThomasCranmer1959]

Finally! TY! The Escondido crowd is radically 2K. I totally disagree with radical 2K. I read Augustine's City of God in high school and never thought of a total separation between secular state and the church.

[@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast]

You get it

[@craigchambers4183]

I was not being well discipled early on. You were reading Augustine...I was reading Tolkien's Lord of the Rings.

[@ThomasCranmer1959]

@@craigchambers4183 I was not discipled either. The book was on the reading rack in my English class. I read The Hobbit, LOTRs trilogy, and C.S. Lewis. Mere Christianity made a good argument for the existence of God based on universal morality. The law of God is written in man's heart at creation. Aka natural law. Everyone read the Bible back then. Graduated high school in 1978.

[@ThomasCranmer1959]

@@craigchambers4183 www.reasonablechristian.blogspot.com

[@craigchambers4183]

@@ThomasCranmer1959 Yes, I was reading the Bible after I came to Christ in 1970 but not before. I probably heard of Augustine but did get that book until many decades later. For that matter, I only read it in part, I think. Maybe all, I'll look again to see.

[@sagnorain3160]

In defense of the "commonality with Nigerian sisters in Christ," I'd like to point out that our current conservative party is open to homosexual couples, porn stars, and trans people. Altho your push back previously and here raises really good points, I can't say that I'd have more in common with an American secular conservative. Even the average Joe 'met them putzing around the garden'' is highly likely to be pro gay marriage, low-key anti-marriage, pro welfare programs, and okay with abortion acceptions for rape/incest/other. I don't mind being co-belligerents with secular cons, just like with libs or anarchists that push back, or others. But our current conservative party is tripping. It's incredible likely I *would* have more values in common with a South American Catholics (despite affirming against the papistry) or Nigerian or Korean siblings, I'd just have different views on how to order those values politically. ((Low-key anti-marriage are the views ranging from "oh, it's just a piece of paper" to "yeah, I'm too old to get married again, but my boyfriend and I are planning to live the rest of our lives together." It's not a rejection of love or monogamy even, but there is a definitive devaluing of marriage.))

[@ThomasCranmer1959]

South American papists are into Liberation theology, aka Marxism. Do you really have more in common with a Christianized Marxism that has no foundation in Scripture?

[@barneycloud9242]

Jon, loves this talk. Can you do some more content on eschatology? Really interested to get your take.

[@c.m.granger6870]

Luther was wrong on this issue, show me in the Scriptures where Christ has two kingdoms.

[@VinnyJustVinny]

This view needs a better name. "Two Kingdoms" introduces confusion from the gitgo. (As evidenced in some of the comments)

[@jamessheffield4173]

James Madison (1751--1836), the principal author of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, explicitly states "now we have the proper distinction between the civil and ecclesiastical spheres." George Vasilca Citizens of Two Kingdoms

[@bama97i]

One kingdom theology does not assert that there is no distinction between the civic and ecclesiastical spheres. This quote is a moot point.

[@jamessheffield4173]

@@bama97i Thanks. Blessings.

[@wishweknew2800]

"Our constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams

[@jamessheffield4173]

@@wishweknew2800 Good point, but I would say the Anti-Federalists had a better solution. Read Brutus on the Supreme court.

[@samuelhaupt3217]

Let's go. Love these guys

[@filmerian4770]

Glad to see these guys are making the rounds and getting the press that they should be getting. Now have Auron MacIntyre on next!

[@howardmakely2169]

I listened to a series on Church history by Iain Murray. I said that when scholarship comes to the ascendant that the downgrade happens. He was so right. What are these guys talking about? Where do they get this garbage? Two kingdom theology? As a Christian I am on the winning side. What religion are these guys?

[@austinrothjr]

It all fell apart at “the government has the right to keep the church from meeting” and “the elders have to decide if they’re going to obey.” If the government has the right then they have the right. If the elders always have the ultimate say then the real power always lies with the elders and the government is subordinate to them. The government has authority in name only.

[@mamainchristjesusofthechri9886]

2 kingdom theology makes room for seven mountain mandate which is not a good thing when you read Revelation. Revelation 17:9 “And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.”

[@margaretyoshikawa1234]

I actually think this whole conversation is absurd. Come on guys we’re living in the last days I don’t want this is gonna do it for us.

[@sierragrey7910]

As for culture war, I see it has something that 2KT can address in the sense that as a citizen, I can engage in politics that are shaped by my Christian views. The key is natural law, a shared common ground for all men. But I don’t see it as a war that the Church should engage in as the Church.

[@sierragrey7910]

I should add that even under 2KT, the Church has a prophetic voice and responsibility as we see with Jonah.

[@ThomasCranmer1959]

So why did the apostles take on the religious and Roman authorities? Acts 5:27-29 (NKJV): 27 And when they had brought them, they set them before the council. And the high priest asked them, 28 saying, “Did we not strictly command you not to teach in this name? And look, you have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this Man’s blood on us!” 29 But Peter and the other apostles answered and said: “We ought to obey God rather than men.

[@sierragrey7910]

@@ThomasCranmer1959 Good question. They did not seek to change the culture nor were they seeking to be disobedient. They sought to obey God and his command to preach the good news. That act of obedience to God was a violation of man’s law. And that is also our obligation, today. We disobey only when obedience to the authorities would mean disobedience to God. During the COVID lockdowns, my church decided to obey God’s command to not forsake assembly for worship. Sadly, it meant that we were forced to disobey our local mayor and Governor.

[@johntobey1558]

How would you differentiate this from a sort of corporate gnosticism?

[@jaredwilliams1031]

I know you're getting a lot of flack on this one, and I'd prefer not to add to the choir, so hopefully this will come across as constructive; I apologize if it seems unhelpful. It seems like these gentleman are trying to affirm that while God is Creator of all things and has charge over all of reality, there is room - and actually, necessity - for us to discuss temporal affairs, including human socio-political circumstances, as well as the natural world - physics, animal life, celestial bodies/events etc. We could even speak of practical considerations in things like running businesses or crafts/trades like fishing, woodworking, auto-repair, etc. I want to compliment them and say that what they're doing is actually really important, but this is also a great time to point out: this really draws us back to why the Church ever associated with Aristotelian-Thomistic metaphysics. The whole point of Scholastic Metaphysics is not simply that it's a great apologetic tool (it absolutely is), it also gives us a great way of articulating everything that is admittedly quite vaguely being discussed here, and for helping us with some practical concerns, like even some of the political problems of the kind we're facing now. Because evangelicals very stubbornly reject metaphysics, they are left trying to reinvent the wheel and come up with new systems and new terminologies whenever they inevitably run up against concerns about human governance, or the study of the natural world, or even just explaining theological concepts to skeptics. Since they see metaphysics as a)inextricably linked to a Church they see as opposition b) they often reject natural theology in favor of fideism of varying degrees c) they view it as somehow 'pagan' or too far outside of Scripture to be positive, they try to force into being some ostensibly more Sola-friendly version that they, themselves, confabulated. There are many problems with those three objections, and arguably just getting rid of those assumptions would do wonders, but even so; I just don't think it ever works, really. Even when I try to listen sympathetically, the theorizing on display in this discussion is just so confusing and turgid that I don't see what the point is anymore. And if it did work, it would probably just end up reaffirming what already could have been known within a pre-existing framework. Just my two cents. EDIT: I do see the significance of the discussion, though, because it's an attempt to address TGC apologists who hide behind a very 'spiritualized' language in order to condemn others who are trying to stand against progressive cultural trends.

[@johntobey1558]

The analogy you second guest gave of a husband amd wife is confusing. How does tgat square with how : R.C.Sproul, Rushdooney and Abraham Kuyper deal with the secular magistrate in Romams 13. Very loose exegesis.

[@margaretyoshikawa1234]

I doubt if they’ll be too many conversations like this after America enters into full persecution mode this is this is just unnecessary

[@NedFerguson]

I believe there are two kingdoms; the kingdom of Christ and the kingdom of Satan. The kingdom of light and the kingdom of darkness.

[@justinhadley2583]

This sounds Aristotlilean. The split between the spiritual and eternal from temporal is very pietistic and even gnostic in bent. You can see it in now Mr Wolfe says those things of this world are necessary instead of calling them good. Jesus is in his eternal state and is bodied. We look forward to the new heaven and new earth. I can see how the Catholic church reaches it's clerical and sacramental system by the reformation with it's two kingdom and thomistic basis. Only the church institution and it's work/spiritual work became holy. Call me crazy but I still hear it from these two. I would be very interested to see the guests interact more with pietism and gnosticism. They talk about secularism a bit but I don't trust see how they can avoid enabling it at the least. Kuyperian sphere theory does far better. Each kingdom has a king. There is one king and though there are several spheres, Christ is king over all of them.

[@johntobey1558]

The seen and unseen Kingdom parallels what the Westmonster confession says about the invisible church. Right?

[@bromineandtungsten]

As a dispensationalist, I find this interesting because it is sort of a reformed way of getting to the same place consistent dispensationalists get in seeing the church and the state as distinct administrations in God's program designed to accomplish distinct missions: the church on a soteriological mission and the state on a mission to bring order. While I disagree theologically with two kingdom theology, I do appreciate Jon and his guests' desire to think through this and have an answer for the believer's relationship to the state.

[@jeremyrlack]

Admittting you’re a dispensationalist discredits anything else you say about the kingdom.

[@DefinitelyNotAFed4473]

Reformed people fleshed this kind of stuff out in detail in the 1500s dude.... You guys are the one's making a bastardized version of it. Dispensationalism didn't exist even in nacsent form until the 1800s.

[@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast]

I appreciate the comment.

[@bromineandtungsten]

@Jeremy Lack Sorry you think so. I can show using a consistent hermeneutic and thoroughly exegetical approach to Scripture that the Mediatorial Kingdom is future and earthly. I can defend normative dispensationalism using the same methodology. How does a careful, serious, and faithful approach lack credibility then? I hope you would have more humility if we were conversing face to face.

[@ThomasCranmer1959]

Dispensationalism reads dispensations and theology into the text that is not there. Ironically dispensationalism evolved out of Reformed theology but focused on eschatology.

[@jeremyrlack]

Neither of them speak with clarity or conviction.

[@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast]

They’re intellectuals, not preachers. They definitely have conviction but it’s nuanced.

[@chrismachin2166]

@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast Did N T Wright teach them?

[@georgewelsh3683]

These young men sound like a neo- gnostic grouping brain storming. Very little appeal to Scriptures to find answers or defend their position whatever????? It is.

[@johntobey1558]

James Montgomery Boice wrote a very good book on this topic in the early 1990's. He pastured the 10th Presbyterian Church in Philadelphia, Pa.

[@elibennett6168]

Fascinating that the speaker at about 14:50 recognizes that the spiritual kingdom is far more egalitarian and that structures of authority he proposes as normative will be done away with. But the problem is that we are called to view people with eternity in mind. A wife, for example, is to be regarded as co-heir now (1 Peter 3:7). This turned norms of male-female relations on their head. Jesus himself said that we are not to do as the gentiles/pagans do, lording authority over one another. I almost get the sense the 2K theology justifies doing as the gentiles do.

[@johntobey1558]

Covenant theology is not compatible with dispemsationalism.

[@GodlessGubment]

Have you seen what’s going on with Donald Trump and Sidney Powell?

[@tkp5181]

No. What?

[@paulkern8847]

What? Got long TDS?

[@TalkingOutOfSchool]

These gentlemen are attempting to live in the world (flesh) and in the spirit (heaven); no wonder they are confused. *_Jesus said there is ONE kingdom NOW, and it is invisible_* - *_it is within us._* The eternal kingdom will be physical when Jesus returns at the resurrection and conquers all His enemies. We have no power to wield in this world; only the Power of the Holy Spirit working within us. (Luke 17:20) _And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come,_ he answered them and said, *The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:* (Luke 17:21) _Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there!_ for, *behold, the kingdom of God is within you.* (Gal 5:25) * If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.* (Luke 12:29) And *seek not ye what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind.* (Luke 12:30) For all _these things do the nations of the world seek after:_ and *your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things.* (Luke 12:31) But rather *seek ye the kingdom of God;* _and all these things shall be added unto you._