Proto Glow vs Eclipse vs Seasonal Glo! 40 Disc Comparison & Analysis!

[@pekkamatikainen3200]

Outstanding!! This may have been your best video so far. And super good pronunciation with Niklas Anttila, we Finns salute you!

[@SixSidedDiscs]

Much appreciated!

[@sleepytimegorillamuseum5220]

I'm glad you mentioned having to play night rounds because of daylight savings, as it's not something I've considered. I live in Phoenix, AZ, so we play night rounds for the opposite reason. During the summer, it's one hundred and hell out during the day, so night golf is the way to go. Regardless, keep doing what you do, Greg. You are the absolute best channel on KZbin when it comes to this type of content. Thank you for all you do, my friend.

[@clintsawyer7702]

Except he's got it backwards. It gets a dark earlier on standard time, daylight savings is light later.

[@bakerby]

Yeah, Kastaplast’s glow has experienced some setbacks. I noticed this around the same time they joined House of Discs. Which is interesting because after that amalgamation, Trilogy released Moonshine 2.0. I bought a SSD stamped Trespass recently and wondered if it was 1.0 or 2.0. When playing at the local glow leagues most people throw MVP and associated discs. Last night was the first time I watched someone w a Gecko. Finally, if anyone that reads this has access to a Moonshine Warship, I’d gladly take it off of your hands. Great content.

[@rogerjones332]

I have 2022 glow Falk that glows great under a white led light. Kastaplast uses different phosphorescent chemicals, the glow doesn't last for 18 hours, like MVP's.

[@benharrison5816]

The cursing while searching for your orange disc in the leaves is an all-too-familiar sound as well. Your videos always go above-and-beyond the typical disc comparison videos. I highly recommend one of those big UV flashlights! They even light up many non-glow discs if they're yellow, orange, or some other bright color. I've returned many discs to their owners, and found some free gems with no name/number. Pays for itself.

[@cyle46]

MVP glow is wild. I have a prototype glow envy that got muddy when I was travelling for a tournament. Cleaned it and let it dry in the hotel bathroom overnight and ended up getting up in the night to use the bathroom and it was still glowing 4 hours later.

[@raidonbay]

Yup, the duration that they still emit light is outstanding. Sometimes the best way to find one buried in some leaves, is shine a good UV in a sweeping motion. And turn off all lights.

[@evanstanek5838]

Yeah, had my discs soaking in the daylight for a round, threw them in my trunk. many many hours later opened up the trunk to put in groceries, the mvp was stillllll glowing

[@shawnwhite1645]

Incredible video. You guys really outdid yourselves this time! Extremely thorough in my opinion. Thank you so much. I actually was excited to hear about your sponsor TryDiscs as well. Seems like a great resource, and I went straight to it to see where I could get my hands on a Trail, since there aren't any in my local disc golf stores and orders have been backed up from MVP for quite a while.

[@TKDiscGolf]

From the data we collected in our glow test, MVP is the leader in glow brightness and longevity, with Innova’s new proto glow coming in at a solid second place. Everyone else is below those two. We have been using a lux meter in our comparisons for three years now.

[@cosmolean]

Living in the Phoenix AZ area, our glow season is summertime as it's often too hot and/or UV intensive to play in the day except very early in the morning or at night.

[@ogdiscgolfer]

wow, I really appreciate all the work you put into this video! Phenomenal job. Thanks.

[@bakerby]

@@ogdiscgolfer it’s very interesting that you dropped a glow video on the same day. Both were informative and interesting.

[@ogdiscgolfer]

@@bakerby what’s funny is I had seen your comment in the comments on this video and almost shouted out to you over here :-) and let’s face it we Contant creators are always trying to figure out what the heck we can do our next video on so daylight savings…hey let’s talk about glow :-) I just finished taking a buddy out for his very first go round ever tonight. So tis the season.

[@NickCarroll]

@@ogdiscgolfer yep, I have a glow video coming out tomorrow where my friend and I try out new glow discs, and a new glow layout that a local league is playing weekly. So we're giving people a test drive in the new layout as well. I typically make a glow video a year around this time. 😁

[@oddballreactions]

​@@NickCarroll birds of a feather! :D

[@NickCarroll]

@@oddballreactions Let's Glow! (oh wait, Part Time Disc Golf did that already)

[@MikeKrueger-c7k]

MVP for sure

[@wzywgwzywg]

FYI, 365nm UV lights don't work as good with certain plastics. It doesn't glow up my Kastaplast Berg to full brightness. But it works for other plastics, and it's really good at looking for discs because it doesn't emit as much ambient light.

[@Jim3Mix]

Great video. I bought your Luminescent box a year ago, but you just dropped knowledge it would have taken me years to learn on my own. Thank you!

[@dkinderknecht]

Another fantastic video! Thanks for taking the time to make such an informative video! I'm a huge glow disc geek, to the point I transformed one of my old bags into a custom glow box (both the main and putter pockets), powered by two power banks. I can keep 11-13 discs constantly charged for 4-6 hours. But, enough about my geekdom haha. Before I crafted my glow bag - I purchased a flashlight with those 18650 rechargeable batteries, the uvBeast V3 365nm. Not only have I saved a ton of money on batteries (it's paid for itself a few times over) but that thing really is a beast (pun intended). It is significantly more powerful than my MVP Extra Large UV Flashlight I'd been using before. I'd like to see someone test glow discs using a flashlight like that, simply because the light is much more consistent (in my opinion) due to the type of batteries it uses. My MVP flashlight was fine, but I felt like it didn't take long before the brightness became noticeably dimmer as the batteries died down. Out of curiosity, did you have to change the batteries at any point throughout your testing? The geek in me would almost be curious how the Lux of the flashlight changes in relation to time/battery capacity. As always, you guys knocked it out of the park. Hope you all have a terrific weekend!

[@jonathanmackinnon2452]

I tried the glow tape/vinyl, and while I agree it is a cost-effective option, I was severely missing out on actually watching the flight path of the disc after it was thrown

[@dtdoer]

About halfway through and already LOVING this video, dude! I have a few questions/comments on methodology but I’ll save them until the end 🤭

[@ducksharkings]

The large MVP UV-flashlight is a must. Remember to shine it on the underside of the disc if you make contact with the disc. I rubbed-off some of my graphics on the top-side of the disc before I noticed. I play night golf a lot and I have many discs. I find that MVP is far and away the best at glow plastic. In fact, you might lose some night vision if you charge it up too much! My glow glitch will interfere with my night vision if I am not careful. If you've never played at night, you'll find it is a whole different world. Familiar courses will be strangely new again. Fewer people means less waiting and the added benefit of not needing sunscreen!

[@Ben-rs2wp]

timely - wish I had watched this before I bought a bunch of mediocre glow lol! Great video thanks for the effort and science based approach

[@OutriderFIN]

This was great! I recently got some glow discs. All premium plastic from Discmania, Discraft, Innova and Kastalast. I was quite happy with the glow on all other discs but the Discmania Neo Lumen Enigma. That thing fades out so fast. The other discs don't even need to be charged every hole.

[@GoodStarfish]

Maybe my fav video you've ever made. Thank you and bravo for the depth.

[@evanstanek5838]

Fantastic video, Wisconsin we are in full glo season. A few things I'd point out, getting a familiar mold in glo is NOT going to fly like your normal bagged mold of the same name, the other videos on this channel showing plastic types/stabilities is a good guide to predict relative stability for various manufacturers. For instance, I have a glo Envy that rivals a ZONE in it's overstability. So again to your point about the glow tape, yep, that's your best bet to repeat a day disc's flight in glo is to use your same disc and stick glo tape on it. ALSO...I made a glo bag , very fun hunt and it was a chance to experiment with lots of new discs and molds I had been curious about before but never tried. Some of them made my regular every day bag they were so good!

[@raidonbay]

Great review!! More detailed and scientific with your luminous sensor. TK disc golf did a great review during the previous run of Kastaplst and there is a noticeable difference, that was when MVP launched there new color Eclipse. I could tell myself when I bought some of the Kastsplast newer run summer of 2023. I would have like a comparison of MVP'S proto color glow, it seems that I have a few Eclipse that are noticeably blindingly brighter. (Those I take notice and give just a quick couple dots, for curiosity reasons) Excellent work!!

[@InbredJed82060]

OMG thank you Greg. Someone FINALLY brought scientific data to these tests. Would love to see data on disc grip levels.

[@lankmeister]

I play a lot of glow and one thing I've noticed is brighter does not necessarily mean better. Some discs, especially mvp, glow so bright they ruin your night vision. How long the glow lasts is really all I care about. Give me 5 minutes of glow that doesn't blast away my night vision and I'll be happy.

[@wzywgwzywg]

^ this. i have a proxy that's way too bright for putting. i hit it with a quick flash of the light from a distance to barely glow it up.

[@lankmeister]

I don't even glow up my putting putter. By the time I pull it out I'm close enough I don't need to see it glow to follow it's flight

[@curtisridenour]

Yes! My eclipse 2.0 Streamline Lift is not only more stable than some of my firebirds, but also brighter than the sun at night.

[@clintsawyer7702]

​@@curtisridenourwell that's not hard... The sun isn't bright at all at night... That's why it's night 😂

[@curtisridenour]

@@clintsawyer7702 does it though?

[@broncoturbox647]

Amazing video. I've only been playing for a few months, and I was extremely disappointed with some of the glow discs I bought recently. One being the new Beetlejuice Buzzz and the Game of Zones Zone you reviewed here. Both amazing looking discs, but virtually no glow. Thanks for all you do!

[@danielbourgeois952]

This is the video we all needed!!! Thank you. Way to go

[@danieltaskey8441]

Wow, love the details and explanations.

[@durtydan420]

I noticed that my gold line plastic from lat 64 has a faint glow. Also the et1 hemp blend i have from trash panda has enough glow in it to play a round with.

[@drewvonawesome8851]

I'm not surprised the proto glow lasted so well in the test, I got the DX Roc and Champion Gorgon they released for Halloween in Proto Glow and they're fantastic in glowing. I've been able to play multiple shots off a single charging.

[@kriztofer3334]

I’ve always wanted to play a glow round. Great video!

[@madsgoldinandersen2306]

About glow Kastaplast - i dont find the Reko to have the same glow as some of their other disc.

[@owenmcdonald5806]

Get yourself some 2021 kastaplast glow and I promise you'll notice a very large difference between it and the 22 and 23 runs, I feel as though they've made strides towards improving the 24 glow, but nothing has really beat that sweet spot of 2021 kasta glow for me

[@adielcerriteno1990]

Westside Ricky Harp is super bright too

[@sasuz8579]

I love the bloopers :D

[@micahteich2089]

Thank you for the informative video. Is the vinal legal in tournaments? I got a couple of the first run Proto Aviars when they dropped. I'll probably get the Valkyrie and Shryke seeing as how well the Aviars perform. It's good to see Innova drop something comparable to the Eclipse plastic.

[@SixSidedDiscs]

The vinyl is not PDGA Legal but it is removable and reusable, you can put it back on the sheet and use it multiple times no problem!

[@FreshMattyJ]

I agree Kasta has gotten worse or just not kept up with the competition at the very least. Still okay-good but Innova Proto and UV Z Glo from discraft are just as good in good condition in my experience.

[@ilikesnow]

The Discraft Halloween Buzzz is crazy bright. It glows for at least 4 hours after a round in my bag. I think it would be in the Top 5.

[@ptomeo]

Nice work!

[@micr6002]

I’m a great fan of science! Love the numbers

[@Shadow00009]

Can't wait to see this!

[@BigJuice77]

Personally I'm a big fan of the new Seasonal Glo. Obviously there are several brands that glow brighter, but I think one comment you made stands out "it just would not stop glowing". The advantage to the not-super-bright glow is it doesn't mess with your night vision, while at the same time lasting for several minutes making it easy to find like MVP or new Innova. My Seasonal Zone that I just picked up rocks. And the grip is very nice. EDIT: Made this comment before I finished the video lol

[@thomasd5248]

definitely play MORE glow in the winter, but that certainly doesn't mean there is none in the summer!

[@davetuggey591]

Haha ok just finish the video, saw that you guys tecommended it😂

[@IamTBUCK]

Would love to see a comparison with ONLY color glow. For eg. the new Orange Gorgon, the White/Teal/Blue/Purple MVP, Doomsday has a couple of colored glow (Red and Purple), Discmania, Kastaplast, etc. I find the color glow easier on the eyes most of the time compared to the Green glow and try to get them over standard Green glow whenever I can. New MVP is almost too bright when you first light them up.

[@augustbjeilkjr737]

You have to include supersonic if you test glow! Hands down the brightest glow out there. Hope you check it out and maybe make a dedicated video to that when you didn’t include it here🤞🏻

[@durtydan420]

I fully made my bag glow discs. The only ones that dont glow bright enough and longe enough are the radioactive glow blackout from doomsday and the esp glo zone i have.

[@McSlobo]

Kastaplast is hyperior according to my experience. Oh, and you can buy really good glow tape for years for a few euros / bucks. Just buy the stuff that's used to mark exit routes in buildings.

[@dkpauls3139]

Versions of Lights? MVP Disc Golf Flat LED Tri-lite Disc Golf Lights

[@MichaelPruden-vg8nm]

The glow vinyl is great unless you live in place that glow might also mean snow… the vinyl is not a permanent sticker and will start to fall off when the discs get cold. Not a problem in warm conditions…

[@dennisbright6684]

I would say All-Season Glo….. 🙌 10:09

[@derekmeier2803]

OR you could do what we do for 7months in Alaska…. Use lights. U you can use any disc you want. And if you have any ambient light ( bright full moon, street lights, etc…) glow discs become very difficult to find, especially under snow. And there’s snow. Glow discs are very difficult to find under a few inches of snow. Here in Alaska we usually play with 1-3 ft on the ground and if you hyzer in steeply…. you’re gonna piss off your card mates looking for 10 minutes. Another advantage to lights is that it’s easier to track your disc when it ricochets off that tree hiding in the darkness. Just use a tri light or bobber light. Use super 88 3M electrical tape applied warm for max adhesion.

[@benoitsouligny863]

Great video would of loved too see birdies glow also

[@clintsawyer7702]

Your result on the Goliath Discs Pillar is not consistent with tests I've done. I don't know if there was a different run, but I tested an MVP Eclipse 2.0, an Axiom Total Eclipse, from Goliath Discs I tested the Pillar, Ambush, and Jireh in Gloasis and the Waymaker in Glo-T, a Mint Discs, Innova, Prodigy, and Gateway. MVP Axiom had the brightest initial glow and longest duration, but Goliath was a very close 2nd, being brighter after 2 minutes than most everything else was initially, and was still glowing strong after 10 minutes. This was purely visual, not with a lux meter, but based on my testing, I find that very hard to believe that it dropped out entirely in less than a minute. I will have to see if I can track down a lux meter somewhere.

[@curtisridenour]

so, the 365 is better than 395 as disc golf glow charging light?

[@curtisridenour]

Also i think the word is phosphorescent not fluorescent. My armchair googling says Phosphorescent materials glow after the charging light is extinguished while the Fluorescent ones do not glow without the light actively on them.

[@konstakovanen6816]

Is innova halo star glow any good?

[@mattrandall7836]

Do you watch Project Farm? Also please start including Gateway, they get the shaft unnecessarily. Their molds have gotten more modern lately.

[@SixSidedDiscs]

I do not, what's that? I certainly don't exclude Gateway intentionally, we just haven't carried their stuff in awhile, probably due to place a small order soon.

[@mattrandall7836]

@SixSidedDiscs project farm, he does reviews of various things from your home, and your method reminded me of him in a way with this video. It's not just you when it come to Gateway sorry I wasn't trying to single you out.

[@SixSidedDiscs]

@@mattrandall7836 Oh interesting. I don't watch too much stuff like that, sounds interesting though. No worries re: Gateway, you aren't the only one asking so I think that's a fair consideration.

[@robertcothern7504]

I play glow all year in Florida and I have at least 15 different mvp discs to choose from. It’s the only brand that my horrible night vision can see while flying over 250’ away.

[@theLizardof0z]

How is shining a laser pointer down the fairway to the basket less distracting than a UV flash light? That Laser has a MUCH futher travel distance.

[@SixSidedDiscs]

Hmm fair, that's the difference between John's advice and mine apparently LOL, I will say, at our local course, there's seldom anyone else playing glow.

[@dejugulators]

hard to know where to take cover when someone on the next fairway yells "fore!" and they've only put the vinyl stickers on the top of the disc.

[@justinfreeman3473]

Past-tense of glow is glew, right?

[@SixSidedDiscs]

Google says "glowed" but you know, English is a work in progress, we're making it up as we go.

[@1800JimmyG]

One thing is for sure, do not buy a UV Penlight. Get a big UV flashlight.

[@kennethfathauer3310]

I use an old camera strobe for fishing lures. Works great for discs too

[@Disc_golphin]

This video must’ve taken a while to produce. Very interesting tho, an under discussed subject

[@rusticoaf]

The Scavenger is a banger of a thrower. That glow is not great though.

[@robertjones1730]

Glow plastic DOES matter! Westside VIP Moonshine goes forever and is very bright. I scrambled eggs on my Westside Sword this morning after charging the glow last season.

[@wzywgwzywg]

For the love of god, if you have one of those lights that you have to click multiple times to switch between regular light and uv, click it against your shirt or something do you don't blind everybody!

[@CalebKnox]

FYI. If you smack a tree hard (not that I ever have) the glow sticker can fall off.

[@SixSidedDiscs]

Oh, neither have I, but I can see how that would happen. ;)

[@pdmackey798]

Uv beast v3 365n amazon, expensive but worth it. Just don't shine it around the house in the dark, you'll find that your house may not be as clean as you think. And also "not in the eyes" as I tell my kids.

[@attilawiszmeg]

This is all well and good but it *is* only half of the story. How they fly is even more interesting to me compared to it's non glow counterparts.

[@davetuggey591]

How about these, never try that... Hive Firefly Glow Vinyls -

[@leopard3131]

I disagree with your advise to not light the fairways at night. There are fantastic spotlights and "night vision" is over rated. It is more dependent on the lunar cycle. Lightning the fairway is essential with a new moon and unnecessary with a full moon. The other issue is snow and snow depth. Glow fails in deep snow. In snow i highly advise thin rubbons and at night lights. There is a reason the PDGA allows lights in snow. I am not sure about ribbons.

[@bakerby]

I loved the video, but something was bugging me. You were the second video I saw mention it, so I checked. We are currently in Standard Time. Daylight Savings is from March to November.

[@asdfghjkl4278]

In my opinion, discraft has way too many plastic blends that are all so similar.

[@kilcolman]

2024 Discraft 'Seasonal' Glow next...

[@SixSidedDiscs]

Oh its in here!

[@kilcolman]

@@SixSidedDiscs heh that's what happens when I comment before the premiere.

[@clintsawyer7702]

Ugh... Not even 30 seconds in and I've got to stop you an issue a correction... The days are NOT shorter because of daylight savings time... We just LEFT daylight savings time, and we are now in standard time. It blows my mind how many people have this backwards.

[@daveduncan350]

Oh, and I bet you think the Earth is round, too. Don’t you?

[@clintsawyer7702]

@@daveduncan350 I hope you're joking

[@austinthrowsstuff]

Discraft us hilariously bad. I have many glo disc golf discs that won’t hold 15 seconds

[@rogerjones332]

Ha ha, first!

[@jae7349]

👎

[@emmetbuchanan9317]

“Seasonal” is so dumb!!

[@DolphaysDiscGolf]

Hands down the best glow comparison video on the internet. 🥏❤️🌟

[@flippeditude1170]

Fantastic video; loved everything about it. I have a Kastaplast Stal that glows great-nothing like Axiom/MVP, but pretty solid. Side question: Would they (DGPT, whoever) ever do a PRO-GLOW TOURNAMENT? Like are there any silver-series glow-anythings? I guess I'm asking if there are any legit glow-tournaments anywhere, past or future. Thanks again for such great content :)