A Beginners guide to DPS Rotations | Runescape

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Basic ability update has caused some changes, move up abilities as seen here kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJXKpIKAlJWjfdk

[@MsMiDC]

For everyone: you do not have to be amazing at full manual to do most bosses. If you can revo your basics and do your thresholds and ultimates yourself, that will be good enough for almost anything in game. Just plain practise is all it takes. I was struggling at a flawless zuk a lot when it first came out, now with the same gear and weapons i can do a flawless kill everytime just by practise. Dont be too hard on yourself.

[@Kranon]

This is particularly true for Mobile. I can do bosses pretty easily on Mobile and have the videos to back it up :)

[@sugmanutz]

Thx

[@austinstarling442]

@@Kranon can i see the videos? I am exclusively on mobile unfortunately and am needing help

[@Lariat_V]

@@austinstarling442 don't know if you figured it out yet, but the videos he mentioned are on his channel. Should be able to tap on his profile icon to go to it.

[@siffumetsu271]

This comment here, it's true I ironman so I got lucky and learned bosses in a difficulty order but doing full revo then working on your defensives helps you learn gwd2 good place to practice this, then doing revo but manually inputting your thresholds and ults makes a night and day difference once you get the hang of it

[@Kraylor]

this video came at the perfect time for me... i just got myself a cup of tea, so i sat back, relaxed and enjoyed myself. bedankt man, handig!

[@beardblanket8311]

Time to watch and not change anything about how I play the game #BadHabitsDieHard

[@pooflinger7]

As someone who is almost maxed but still sucks at dps and pvm in general, this did help a lot actually.

[@swingdog]

WOOWOWOWOWOW this video made it possible for me to die almost immediately after entering boss instances! thanks porotox!

[@ProtoxxGaming]

PLEASE READ: - With mutated dazing shot, salt the wound will be a better threshold at 2+ stacks than bombardment - Remember that even with Revolution turned on, manually activating needle strike, fury, conc blast & sonic wave before your thresholds is always a good idea! oh and, The greater sunshine & death's swiftness abilities will be part of the game on the 4th of July. Future proofed myself with that one.

[@Kranon]

I wish we got a Greater Needle Strike that worked for both DW and 2H weapons, oh well, maybe next time. Also, as good as Greater DS/Sunshine sound, keep in mind they'll regain their DOT effect, something you definitely want to be aware of against bosses with reflect mechanics. On the other hand, the DOT will be amazing for Seiryu black crystals.

[@zukodude487987]

Werent those abilities overpowered already???? What about a greater berserk?

[@Tortferngatr]

PvME recommends just putting GConc at the front of your revo basics action bar, followed by Dragon’s Breath, Corruption Blast, Combust, Impact, Tuska’s Wrath, and Wrack. (Heck, they recommend GConc/Sonic Wave at the front of their Revo++ bar.) It definitely makes it require less input to do GConc->threshold/Igneous Omnipower/Guthix Staff EoF->basic if it wasn’t channeled->repeat rotations. This is especially true once you start learning proper Sunshine+adren pot/limitless rotations.

[@Tortferngatr]

@@zukodude487987 The Greater versions seem to basically just make the Planted Feet effect a passive for that ability, but also keeps the slight damage over time from non-Planted Feet Sunshine/DS. It’s a slight buff, but with more quality of life benefits than anything else. Berserk is getting the Vestments of Havoc’s 3-piece set bonus.

[@filo2246]

Whoever uses revolution id recommend turning on queue-ing so you can manually press abils and system wont ignore it

[@ultimatedra]

As someone who is somewhat new to this game this has been EXTREMELY helpful!

[@ProtoxxGaming]

best of luck clapping some bosses man :)

[@jecal2855]

Something alot of people don't realize is gconc doesn't carry over to 2h. So if u gconc and swap to a staff for anything u lose the gronc buff

[@kristianvillagomeza7024]

Wow no wonder I suck dps lol

[@benjiboy1337]

I don't usually bookmark KZbin videos - in fact, aside from a couple of cooking recipes, I don't think I've done so in about 5 years. This is a video I'm probably going to bookmark, because I don't "actually" play EoC Runescape - I just slap on a wiki bar and rely on raw stats. A breakdown of "use these spells and this is why" is kind of exactly what I need to start actually killing bosses higher up the totem pole than Vindicta.

[@realskull9033]

one thing to add to ranged if two handing a bow is salt the wound threshold is significantly better than bombardment. At 2 stacks of puncture (comes from using greater dazing shot) the damage exceeds that of bombardment. With 10 (up to 13 with splintering arrows) the damage exceeds that of snapshot doing a 73.6%-368% (with 13 doing 84.4%-422%) only problem being you will probably hit the damage cap vs snapshot hitting twice allowing for a potential higher damage delt. Otherwise fantastic video! Edit: I know you mention it but it really should just be there instead of bombardment because bombardment is just sad for damage :(

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Oops, correct! Will add it to the pinned comment.

[@ohno7582]

greater bombardment when jagex omfg

[@zuko7642]

Tuska's Wrath is definitely a top priority, especially if you like slayer. Awesome DPS guide. I'm sure this will help a lot of players increase their DPS.

[@jecal2855]

Greater chain tuskas go BANG

[@Imdyinginsideplzhelpme]

For bossing the ability isn't really ideal though, so other than slayer it shouldn't really ever be on the ability bar

[@ProtoxxGaming]

@@Imdyinginsideplzhelpme It isn't as good off-slayer task but it should be on your bar because it deals better damage than weaker basics (like chain and wrack)

[@itadakimasu1535]

For mage, if you have gconc unlocked, it should be first on your bar, not corruption blast. Same goes for needle strike and decimate/cleave. These basic have pretty good dmg and are on short cd and needle strike/gconc can buff your next ablities. You want to use these basics asap

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Unless you're full manual (or revo + actively using basics) you'll risk using Gconc/needle etc and then corruption shot or blast, effectively wasting the buff effect. Corruption is a bleed you want to have active (up time) as much as possible. The cooldown is long enough to where u'll be using needle strike/gconc as often as you can anyway.

[@itadakimasu1535]

@@ProtoxxGaming this may be true for range until you unlock grico but for mage i would have to completely disagree. You generally would use dbreath after gconc then go into corruption. Also, you should use hard hitting abilities with shorter cooldown first. This is why it's advised to use wild mage and aspyx before you omni in a sunshine. Near the end of you sunshine you'll have another chance to use both abilities. This won't be possible if you use omni power first since its on a longer cooldown.

[@vwjanonomous]

​@@itadakimasu1535wheres your video at????😂

[@wilfredosanchez8906]

Finally I’m watching this at work lol thank you

[@Piraja27]

melee tip that isn't utilized a whole lot: if enemy can be stunned or bound, USE punish ability from strength. Enemies you can bind with barge pretty much gives you two additional decimate/cleaves barge - punish - decimate/cleave - punish - sever as example.

[@ricardocontreras3700]

this was awesome i really liked the combat in game but it was a lot of abilities and unlike other mmos i didnt know if i needed to use all of them

[@samer22252]

My Dps seemed to have gown down with this guide

[@RuneHansen4300]

isn't needle strike good to have before grico? to buff it up a bit? and why would you use tuskas wraith insteaed of piercing shot? :) just wondering

[@richarddegise6396]

Thanks, this helped me a lot with Melee, now onto range and magic.

[@generalzodthegod2067]

Instructions unclear I ended up in deaths office pay for my death please

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Ahh the painful reality of RS :(

[@alvaromontoya3764]

oooh will you make a follow up to cover more topics?

[@oscarmorel4495]

Every decision I've made has led me to this moment. Thanks man

[@nevrynkinori3627]

cool guide but it still is confusing with what order I place abilities. should I just copy that long melee action bar? Things are a bit different looking on a phone for ability hotbars.

[@AtomicNuclei]

@protoxx where can i fit in Magma Temptest (Targeted)?

[@BossArchosRS]

When you added grico to the beginning of the bar compared to regular ricochet being further up, would you do the same with gchain compared to regular chain? Would it be better to gchain into thresholds or gchain into corruption blast?

[@Neodeleux]

Gchain into Gconc into Thresholds/Ultimates like Omni w/ Zuk Cape. There's a bug that makes Gconc not procc the Gchain effect but still give crit chance for the ability that comes after.

[@chrisf6037]

What outfit is that? Cosmetic? Its awesome

[@braxindor4153]

I would suggest moving snipe and the corruption abilities to somewhere one manual casts, as I see so many newer pvmers fail with them auto cast, canceling snipe and using corruption shot on single target when there are multiple targets. Otherwise, I must say great job! I hope this will help motivate people to give pvm a shot

[@Kranon]

I'd agree with you until we get the Enchanted Enhanced Nightmare Gauntlets, once we get them, I'd advise placing Snipe on the Second Ability Slot after Greater Dazing Shot. Now, I'm aware how my comment will come across but hear me out. If you will be using the New T95 Bow, then you'll probably be camping Splintering arrows, so it's always good to let Greater Dazing shot open your rotations so you can begin building Stacks, then, by having Snipe as your Second Ability, if you were to use something like Death Swiftness, you'll benefit from the Hit from Snipe, add the buffs the E.E.N.G's and you can basically kite with snipe, something that's quite hard on revolution. However, the general idea you gave is phenomenal, personally I'd advise using Grico as a Manual Ability rather than letting Revolution use it for you, because that way you can choose when's the best time to cast it. With the new bow, Grico with Caroming 4 will become an insane ability you'll definitely want to time perfectly yourself, so getting into the habit early will pay tenfold in the future .

[@jamieward8009]

Everytime I watch a DPS increasing video, I get more confused. So conflicting to a video I just watched who put the ultimate ability (sunshine) at the front, not at the back and the bleeds at the back, not near the front. From trialing the last bar I kept having to click bleeds which means at the end wasn't the best idea. But I don't see having ultimates at the end as a good idea also. Anybody got any tips who's tried both?

[@authentique9465]

When you're doing ranged, where should the dark bow spec be in the treshold order?

[@uhhoh5174]

Last I believe. It’s a spec to use with extra adrenaline,

[@jjthejetplane4050]

Yeah it depends on what's on cooldown and how much adren you have. If I have spare adren with most thresholds on cooldown but basics up I will throw a dbow spec and rebuild adren with the basics for my next rotation

[@jjthejetplane4050]

With relentless, adren pots and fury of the small (and whatever extra adren building) range is almost never struggling with adren and if you are you can use grico with hydrix bolts to hopefully give you a good boost of adren

[@Kranon]

Usually, it's used whenever you have the Adrenaline to justify using it. That's why people use Hydrix Bakriminel Bolts, the extra adren allows you to spam DB spec from your EOF. IIRC, if you're using it inside a Death Swiftness, then it's usually the second threshold you want to use after Snapshot or Shadow Tendrils.

[@ProtoxxGaming]

What the other people said, thresholds first (snapshot/rapidfire/tendrils) and then use ur remaining adren to dump an EOF spec)

[@gregorybailey3837]

What armour/skin is he wearing in the intro???? Dope af

[@isette]

Thanks a lot for the info. =)

[@bludreams4life]

I feel like this was made for me 🤣 thanks so much bro I'll be watching this on the way to work so after I can grind some bosses after! GL everyone!

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Gl on drops :D

[@dangelo146]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

[@amccarron1015]

what about magma tempest? and if you have greater chain I'd assume it's in the same spot as regular chains? @Protoxx

[@Kranon]

I'd advise reading the PVMe Website Magic DPM section. Keep in mind however, you want Gchain to precede a high hitting ability like Igneous Omnipower (with zuk cape) or Wild Magic. This can be pretty useful for Zuk Challenges, in both NM and HM.

[@amccarron1015]

so I should cast g chain kinda like my thresholds have another keybind then follow it with omni? word ty ty

[@magemanscrub2954]

You can target tempest before a boss spawns for free extra damage

[@coskater1boi]

finally a video made for my ability handicapped self lol

[@JordieLIVE]

What about wrack and ruin for magic? would you put that on your main basics bar? Thanks

[@bool.]

Assuming you're using revolution for your basics: The un-buffed Wrack is the worst basic for Magic, so you either want to move it to the end of your bar or, if you have enough other basics to keep the GCD rolling, keep it off the bar entirely. You want to keybind it so you can activate it when you've got enough stacks for Wrack and Ruin, since then it becomes your most powerful basic. Keeping it off your revolution bar also means you can choose to save Wrack and Ruin for a GCD or two if you're going to have Sunshine available soon, without risking it automatically activating too early. Someone smarter than me can probably figure out how long it's worth holding on to in order to use it under Sunshine and there's probably some nuance to it because you're resetting a 12% damage buff to use it, but I'm not deep enough in the spreadsheets to figure that out.

[@JordieLIVE]

@@bool. That makes complete sence. Thanks. Feel like an idiot lol

[@sk8er4lifegh]

when ever i hear grab your cup of tea sit back and relax. i know my youtube alogarthym hit it on point. cheers mate. from a stupid american .

[@kyleshales9400]

yo what are you wearing at the start :O

[@osamaruta4540]

Switching Dragon Breath and Combust give significantly more AADPT and halves the cycle time.

[@MegadethTillDeth]

Wait, you get more dps by canceling out gconc?

[@thelurkerbel0w]

Are drygores better than the arch glacor 85 versions?

[@ProtoxxGaming]

they have slightly more damage & accuracy so are technically better on paper but the t85 weapons allow you to use hurricane with dual wield, very useful.

[@ParallaxVex]

Protoxx what is the best possible ways to farm gold in rs3 without doing Pvm? also love ur videos m8

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Uhh thats hard to say. I don't focus too much on skilling moneymakers Good methods for skilling gp are hets oasis scarab farming, t3 elder troves, zygomite firemaking to name a few. I covered these in videos

[@ParallaxVex]

Much appricated fast reply aswell^^ been looking lately on ur videos alot helps out a bunch in everything even the dps video aswell

[@fattymcfatass5433]

Hey! I just got back into the game after being on and off for 10 years. I was wondering about void knight armor. Back in the days it was the best in slot, but now I see no one Even mention it in any guides on youtube. Can anyone tell me what happened to void, and is it still worth grinding for? Thanks

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Its no longer worth grinding for because of augmentable gear with the invention skill and other armour with set bonuses

[@fattymcfatass5433]

@@ProtoxxGaming thank you for reply!

[@cloud999yt]

i copied your actions bars from this video so far i used the magic one at kerapac, my dps is better than is was before with magic (with tank armor oh and nm kerapac not hm XD) i can consistantly skip the lightning phase, i think maybe later this week i might attemp hm :P but i really want to get good enough to do zuk for that amazing cape and higher enrage arch glacor and start zammy at some point XD i think i just need practice with dps than i'll try harder bosses.

[@Gamerchanger152]

Make a video on all t95 arrows briefly using them not reading posts and can u explain greater ss+ds plz

[@ProtoxxGaming]

For now i've got this for you kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5LNZZWXipJ-gqs (Bik arrows and brief mentions of other ones) I have yet to work on a video covering all t95 arrows, but that's mainly because they are so different that it becomes a spreadsheet thing... :P Greater DS & SS are covered in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zn_Qk4B_j715j8k at 6:34 (skip to it yw)

[@Gamerchanger152]

@@ProtoxxGaming nice as per ur videos can we forward increase the greater ss & ds with plant feet again for 6 seconds more is my question. I will be waiting for all t95 arrows video ty man u work hard.

[@reecewatkins1]

Can you plz update video with greater conc?

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Its in the video man

[@reecewatkins1]

@@ProtoxxGaming Thanks! Not sure how I missed that. I'm not sure how the bar you show is the best dPS though, it shows sunshine at the end? This will mean it will rarely be triggered by rev and instead you'd be firing basics with 100% adrenaline. Maybe I've misunderstood your intent of this video

[@CianaCorto]

I don't like the guide assumes we know the names of all the abilities and where they are (specifically for melee I can't find the arm being chopped off for instance) this makes it extremely confusing for beginners like me.

[@diegodiaz8685]

This is like for Revo?

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Revo for the basics, but thresholds + ultimates should be activated manually.

[@arzog6446]

revolution only on the first 6 ?

[@Kranon]

Yes, that's actually how Revo Basics works. If you use revolution for the entire ability bar and activate Ultimate abilities yourself, that'd be Revo+ and if you let revo do everything for you, that's Revo++ If you want to delve deeper into why, read PVMe Website DPM sections or read a DPS Spreadsheet. Take note of the order of basics in a DPS ability bar, and how much damage they do, then try to follow it yourself. The more you practice, the better uses to it you'll become. I also advise practicing at NM Kerapac so you learn to walk under NPC's and 0 Mechanics Arch Glacor so you polish your DPS rotations in a safe environment.

[@arzog6446]

@@Kranon Tnks!

[@nadund]

DPS for intermediates next please 🙏

[@Kranon]

DPS for intermediates would be something like knowing the ability damage of your abilities inside and outside of Zerk/Death's Swiftness/Sunshine. Then tailoring your ability bar accordingly and casting these abilities from highest damage to least damage. Optimization and Tick Perfection would be more on the High End players spectrum.

[@Tortferngatr]

For Mage: Planted Feet/Greater Sunshine, adren pot (immediately, adrenaline renewal is preferred)/limitless (once you’re at 30% adren), then rotate through GConc (ideally at the front of your action bar if doing revo basics)->Wild Magic/Asphyxiate/Igneous Cape-enhanced Omnipower/Blast Diffusion Boots-enhanced Detonate/Deep Impact/Guthix Staff spec->basic->repeat the GConc, big damage ability, etc. prioritizing Wild Magic and Asphyxiate, then Igneous Omnipower, then Detonate, then Deep Impact.

[@archiebracker2181]

u dont use overpower at all? as melee

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Only after u get the zuk cape man

[@javierhuizar4207]

How do I do this for legacy mode?

[@Kranon]

lol, you don't, you just drown in nostalgia while bosses decimate you. Then complain about how pre eoc was the promised land and hate on jagex for adding mtx and yak track... That's the legacy way for the average player.

[@ProtoxxGaming]

In legacy mode I guess all you do is click the boss and occasionally use a special attack

[@javierhuizar4207]

@@Kranon W66 riot! We pay we say! Bring your cannons!

[@thexzor6579]

Woop woop!

[@cyruswright3185]

This message is for protoxx since idk how to send a direct message. I found a bot farm just south of falador and right above rimmington at the mine, mining for gold ore.

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Really? What an odd place. F2p worlds I assume?

[@cyruswright3185]

@@ProtoxxGaming yes i found them on f2p worlds only, since im not a member idk how far it spreads.

[@yokdahaneler.3418]

3:!4 where is thiss place ?

[@ProtoxxGaming]

runescape.wiki/w/Morytania_Slayer_Tower_dungeon here :)

[@yokdahaneler.3418]

@@ProtoxxGaming omg i went to here. i saw different things. thnks.

[@pwnyougoodTTV]

algorithm assistance

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Appreciate it man

[@gregsupaki]

idk, I just don't think it's necessary to sweat in runescape when fighting anything unless you're just absolutely undergeared.. It's never been that type of MMO.

[@thatonetitan8456]

4k% no food telos?

[@luqmanhakim5291]

I dont think you can do arch glacor 2000% with full gear and no switch or shield switch.

[@thatonetitan8456]

@@luqmanhakim5291 It may be possible with crazy luck, but I for sure can't

[@luqmanhakim5291]

@@thatonetitan8456 Tbh i dont even know if luck could even help you

[@user-bl6zn2is1u]

I wish i could give you my login to see my acc and tell me what routes to take 😆im so overwhelmed

[@ProtoxxGaming]

If you join my discord (link in description) I can help you answer questions if you give me some context to them

[@vwjanonomous]

Sword shield must not ve a popular combination 😂

[@Fridge_Fiend]

Ring of vigour? How old is this?

[@ProtoxxGaming]

I mention it being unlockable as a passive at the start. You still need to get it for it to become a passive not everyone has done the quest :)

[@Sceptric]

Before unlocking the passive, it’s great to use actively!! Definitely a worthy tip

[@BigZaddyYumYum]

Thanks tea daddy

[@pulpruns782]

I learned nothing.

[@Kranon]

Anime PFP's are something else i swear. Read the PVMe then where other anime PFP's can school you, now off you go. It's not like this video is the only place you can learn, you muppet.

[@Mareyes2525]

Hi new player returning, is this guide relevant even now? and is this guide assuming we are using revolution or manual? or manual for thresholds and revolution for basics? Thank you

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Yes it's mostly relevant, with one minor change. See the pinned comment It assumes you manual the thresholds/ultis revolution can be used for the basics

[@alexakelso489]

Im curious now with with Necro out 😝 more to come im sure.