Prove That God Exists!

[@Pangburn]

Full discussion here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4PCppiOqqecrdksi=4GU6YOdojewNPeZK

[@stephenlassiter7066]

Finally! I think "Date Recorded" should be required on all posted videos.

[@davidrhodes5245]

This obsession some people have with “what is the purpose of life”…..There is no purpose. We are born, we live, we die, and we just try to live life the best we can, at least most of us do. 500 years from now 99% of the 8 billion people alive right now won’t even be remembered by the ones who follow. They just lived, and are long gone, there was no special purpose for being here. There does not have to be a reason WHY we were here, we just were.

[@mrhdbnger]

I always just answer entropy. It is the correct answer because it is true for why anything exists or happens in the universe. The universe is working hard to zero out the energy potential, and life is entropy on steroids. That is our purpose. That is why the universe did this. I can't speak for anyone else but I am rocking this shit. I am turning sunlight into poop at a staggering rate. When I finally croak I will have wasted so much of the universe's energy and given so little back that it will owe me a thank you note.

[@asynchronicity]

Apparently a lot of people believe we are here mainly to stroke the egos of invisible and silent superbeings.

[@BradyHansen81]

Unless you’re a Mormon, those people track every life they can 😜

[@gloriouspurpose_]

We all have our own purpose, it's just silly and somewhat narcissistic to think there's a supernatural being that has our true purpose in mind (and really hates it when we're gay)

[@thedonofm-town1856]

You say there is no purpose while describing a purpose 😅

[@LittleLou-vk9fm]

"I start with the fact that I'm a conman and grifter, and convicted felon..." - Dinesh D'Souza

[@user-gk9lg5sp4y]

You win the comments for being 10000% correct in your assertion

[@olliedylan1381]

“Judge Berman previously denied D’SOUZA’s pretrial motion to dismiss the indictment for selective prosecution, ruling that there was “no evidence” to support D’SOUZA’s allegation.” ~ FBI Seems like the guy has struggled with the burden of evidence for a while…

[@joshuaburns4242]

This debate ended at 5:08 when he said, “I’m not saying I have proof of god”.

[@krølle-1]

i was thinking the same. and why do you believe it then?

[@faladodososomeme6739]

@@krølle-1do u have proof that other people have feelings? No, so why do u believe it? Btw I’m not believing in God but yeah. Horrible questioning

[@Captain-Cosmo]

If I was made in the image of God, why am I not invisible like him?

[@sparrowprince3432]

🥁 💥

[@stephenkaake7016]

to 99.9999999 of the universe you are

[@Captain-Cosmo]

@@stephenkaake7016 Which 0.0000001% part of the universe is God visible to?

[@stephenkaake7016]

@@Captain-Cosmo people on psilocybin

[@Citingpick]

This is why humans cant understand God🤦‍♂️

[@asynchronicity]

The believers always bring huge garbage bags of word salad to spew and strew about.

[@electricmanist]

So maybe we should start with the power which exists in every atom, every molecule, every particle of matter, -throughout the universe. No word salad here, just stating the obvious. So maybe you should also consider the power which is released when an atomic bomb is exploded.. No fancy words, just enormous power. And this enormous power is in all that is. Get it ?

[@joeshmoe7967]

@@electricmanist And that relates how? If what you say is true, it doesn't prove the origin. Certainly some will point and say only 'god' could make it, that doesn't make that true

[@gandalainsley6467]

@@electricmanist That is considered word salad by people here. Science is word salad. If you don't say exactly what they want to hear everything is word salad.

[@asynchronicity]

@@gandalainsley6467 Your straw man argumention is so compelling!

[@Vhlathanosh]

​@@gandalainsley6467 it is word salad because it doesn't make sense

[@OwnerOfTheCosmos]

The video, just like every word of this Dinesh D'Souza guy, is just A HUGE WASTE OF TIME. That dude is taking 20 full minutes to not-quite-but-almost worm himself to the point he is APPARENTLY (I can only guess. Like I said, huge waste of time.) trying to make: "You don't know everything with absolute certainty, hence you can believe wild claims without any evidence whatsoever, because we want answers, so we just make them up."

[@geoffallen2835]

Defining D'Souza: The years pass a waste of breath, a waste of breath the years to come.

[@asynchronicity]

Apparently a lot of people believe we are here mainly to stroke the egos of invisible and silent superbeings. 🤷‍♂️

[@D.MarcelloRadice]

we should not call anymore and do not let them make this nosense war of religions, atheism will disappear and none will miss it...

[@asynchronicity]

@D.MarcelloRadice Neat!

[@joeshmoe7967]

@D.MarcelloRadice It is the other way around. Religion is waning.

[@Uouttooo]

@@joeshmoe7967 Islam called and would love to say hello.

[@Vhlathanosh]

​@D.MarcelloRadicewhat?

[@mojowit]

I’ll save you a click: He can’t prove God exists. You’ll want your 20 minutes back afterward.

[@Ego_Katana]

I wish I would have read your comment first. I want my 20 minutes back. Dinesh does not understand basic epistemology.

[@bartfeather6176]

Dinesh is the lamest apologist out there. They say most apologists are preaching to the choir, trying to keep the flack whole. I’m not sure Dinesh could keep a questioning Christian in the flock.

[@benhoogstraten6243]

I love watching Dinesh talk nonsense so these were 20 fulfilling minutes

[@cbrjs]

Agreed…. Never even really get into it cause the host is too busy trying to redirect.

[@danmallery9142]

It's funny that the only thing Dsouza made a good argument for is divorce.

[@WalderFrey]

Dinesh, fresh from having his ass handed to him by Alex O'connor. Still hopeless here.

[@mikedonoghues4018]

Who keeps booking him?

[@AgnosticThinker]

​@mikedonoghues4018 very popular among thiest, he sells

[@r0ky_M]

Dinesh logic says he should believe in the legend of Bigfoot.

[@gandalainsley6467]

Well it is like a monkey so why not? Does a huge hairy monkey type of creature that might have existed at one point seems that unrealistic to you? He might exist. I won't go the full idiot route and say that bigfoot is impossible because he isn't impossible.

[@Vhlathanosh]

​@@gandalainsley6467 "it is like a monkey" Wait, you've seen it?

[@quackenbush723]

​@@gandalainsley6467not impossible but increasingly unlikely. The number of game cams that have been put out, drone surveillance by enthusiastic searchers, and multiple shows built around looking for Bigfoot. Nobody has found anything, I won't say it's impossible that they exist but it is increasingly unlikely.

[@r0ky_M]

@gandalainsley6467 LoL. What do you mean once existed?. .folks still claim to see Bigfoot, just like idiots still claim to see Jesus or Mary appear.

[@gandalainsley6467]

@@r0ky_M Maybe it does. I don't know. Pretty sure scientists would call you an idiot because you are dismissing something that is completely possible. People used to think like you do about bigfoot about hippos. As you know (I hope) hippos are very real but at one point they were seen as mythical creatures. As for Jesus and Mary we don't even know how they look like . So people assume things like you do so why is it okay for you to do that but not for others huh?

[@realLsf]

Another magical mystery tour with Ganesh D’Souza. That man’s talent for avoiding answering questions is unparalleled. I don’t know why the sceptics give him the time of day

[@HuxtableK]

Cool, so Dinesh's entire argument is a God of the Gaps. The three questions he talks about, which he says "we have no answer to"...okay, yeah, no shit. And not having answers to those questions doesn't mean a god exists. It's simply that you WANT there to be a god, for emotional comfort.

[@Uouttooo]

It also does not mean a god does not exist.

[@HuxtableK]

@Uouttooo Sure. But if a god did exist you wouldn't need to use such shit arguments.

[@Uouttooo]

@@HuxtableK What shit argument? I merely pointed out that it is inconclusive either way. Stick to the facts or logic please! No need to resort to any vulgarity as if your argument could not stand on its own merits.

[@markoshun]

@@Uouttooo Very true, I’m just always surprised how many are satisfied with ‘not impossible’. Because something fits nicely into a gap, doesn’t mean it warrants belief. An all powerful god would fit any and all gaps, so many of us need something more than ‘possibility’. 🤷‍♂️

[@minaguta4147]

Pardon me if I dismiss anything the director of the conspiratorial film "2000 Mules" has to say about evidence. Dinesh D’Souza should not be welcomed to this type of an event.

[@user-gk9lg5sp4y]

That was film was nothing but propaganda from a man who was convicted of election fraud

[@stephenkaake7016]

I missed the 16 million extra votes this year

[@ruirodtube]

19:30 what reasonable people don’t do is to believe in invisible dogs that created dog universe and when dogs die they meet their dog gods in an invisible heaven (because all dogs are good dogs, of couse!).

[@mc.richter]

This “debate” was a continual stream of D’Souza making up barely relevant, long-winded analogies in which he repeatedly misrepresented Dillahunty’s position-it’s exhausting. Then as the analogies get sliced and diced by Dillahunty, he interrupts and talks over, trying to obscure the response.

[@missinterpretation4984]

They try so hard to repackage “we have no other explanation.”

[@daviddeaves]

Plus they don't even have an explanation. They just say magic. If you cannot make predictions then you have not explained anything.

[@fozzsr]

Does everybody understand how bad a question this is? We all know that the ONLY one that could possibly prove God's existence to EVERYONE is God himself. If he's there he's hiding and doesn't want us to know him or him us. That's all I need to be convinced that the God of the Bible does not exist. The simple, honest, inevitable conclusion for any honest and unbiased thinker. 😇

[@johndoe3632]

If god is omniscient then he knows if I can be convinced of him and also what evidence will convince me.. since he is omnipotent he can do whatever it takes to convince me.. ultimately his will be done... He chooses who he wants to convince... So until that happens I can remain in my natural skeptic state..

[@Citingpick]

​@@johndoe3632God has already shown himself but nobody wants to listen they want life easy. God cant show himself every year just becouse some people dont believe in him.

[@JohnRowe-gd5jt]

@@johndoe3632and Christians always say that god has a plan for all of us and we just need to be patient. Why would god not want a relationship with me RIGHT NOW, especially when my eternal life depends on it

[@Azameanie]

The most surprising part of this is that Dinesh opens the discussion by basically saying, “I’m about to make an obvious argument from ignorance” and Matt just lets him walk.

[@michaelfera5515]

Dinesh is one of the most obnoxious apologists in this space. Intellectually dishonest, arrogant, condescending and flat-out ignorant.

[@mryorkshire3623]

GOD - The '' Hide n seek '' world champion.

[@Ronaldo-vs3uh]

If you ask me, god could probably just be an alien. Alot of the "powers" such as healing illness can just be advanced knowledge of biology. Think about how much we have advanced in medicine in just 200 yrs or so. Now imagine a civilization with millions of years of tech. The universe has countless galaxies, with countless stars, all of which contain planets. So an advanced alien god is more probably than some hide and seek champ who designed all that and made earth...special

[@blackholesun5682]

We are here because we are. Our purpose is to enjoy this opportunity we have to live. And once we die, life ceases to exhist, blackness. So the morale is, enjoy your life, because you get only one, and it is short. 😊

[@BradyHansen81]

Does it cease to exist? Why do you we think our end is anything at all? The matter that makes up our body will go on to give rise to other forms. Usually feed bugs or mushrooms that are then eaten by animals. Does that make us be reborn as an animal? 🤔

[@D.MarcelloRadice]

we should not call anymore and do not let them make this nosense war of religions, atheism will disappear and none will miss it......

[@gandalainsley6467]

So you have zero morality. Because if you do have one its a contradiction of what you just said.

[@ImmaPatato-l5o]

@@gandalainsley6467 Are you trying to tie morality with religion? They are not related.

[@ImmaPatato-l5o]

@D.MarcelloRadice And you think fairy tale religions are going to be the future? Perhaps in 2000 years some clowns will be trying to defend a version of Scientology, like believers try to defend the outrageous ideas of religions today. Religious nonsense has been a brake on humankind since their inception we are better off without it.

[@trav1325]

It’s all death fear

[@kacethegreat4560]

literally and i wish this was brought up more

[@mikecavell8283]

I love the way the guy talks in circles, I don’t know how Matt doesn’t laugh at him!

[@freddan6fly]

Matt Dillahunty discussed, defined words, provided evidence and reasoning, while D'Souza plays word games.

[@darrennew8211]

9:00 - The "divine accounting" is assumed to be Christian? Why not Viking religion where killing the most enemies get you into heaven?

[@joeshmoe7967]

That is one I could get behind! Plus I have long hair and reddish beard! Count me in!

[@elem-sike4161]

This whole debate was Matt teaching Dinesh how reasoning and evidence works. And Dinesh trying hard to poison the well.

[@stephenkaake7016]

how did he poison the well

[@daviddeaves]

​@@stephenkaake7016his bullshit about divorce, why even plan, trying to suggest that faith with no evidence is somehow equivalent to trusting your partner

[@daviddeaves]

​@@stephenkaake7016his bullshit about divorce, and making plans. Trying to suggest that faith with no evidence, is equivalent to having a level of confidence but with imperfect evidence.

[@LittleLou-vk9fm]

Ask D'Souza if his receiving a pardon, makes him more likely to commit another felony? And can we now call him an "illegal"?

[@sparrowprince3432]

He’ll never commit another felony again. He’s lucky he got a pardon and he knows it. He won’t put himself in that position again.

[@user-gk9lg5sp4y]

@@sparrowprince3432 He'll just grift in ways that aren't technically illegal.

[@Freethinker1958]

All of D'Souza's reasons for a god, and of course a Christian god, is like me adding the numbers 1+2+3 and getting 1,000. Neither his reasons for a god nor my math make any sense.

[@TaskmasterLancaster]

Dinesh hurts my brain. A prime example of "is he lying, or is he just that stupid?"

[@eddieraffs5909]

God exists in the minds of people who need him/her/it to give answers to questions they want to hear.

[@eboss8715]

Man what a mic drop to end the discussion

[@daviddeaves]

I was yelling that at my phone. The difference between science and religion is once you have an idea (there are more stars, but my vision is not good enough) take steps to improve your vision and check again. While religion says, you are not allowed to test god, he will get angry, and give me your money so we can start mining that 10th star.

[@thaimperial97]

Idk, but the fact that people need other humans to prove their particular god exists raises questions instantly. The no evidence thing is just enough to not believe the nonsense period

[@paulmcnutt6358]

I just love it when an honest person argues with an idiot.

[@MyReligionIs2DoGood]

"Nobody has been on the other side of the curtain." Are you sure about that? Pretty sure every living being on this planet has been there - before they were born.

[@dyvel]

There's just as much evidence that somebody had been to the other side and returned, as there is for the existence of a god.

[@danielrussell9416]

How did the Universe come into existence? We have no idea, end of story.

[@scottmoore7588]

"3 of the most important questions we could probably ask, we have no answer to." They probably wouldn't be seen as such important questions if we _did_ have answers to them.

[@daviddeaves]

I don't even see them as important. They have no impact on my daily life. I have much more pressing questions. Do I have enough money saved for retirement, should I sell my car now while it still has warranty, or keep it till it breaks. Will our governments finally take climate change seriously? How can I help.....

[@scottmoore7588]

@@daviddeaves Oh for sure, I don't consider them all that important myself either. My point was just that the guy talking doesn't seem to understand that important questions not having answers isn't a problem, because the reason people like him see them as important is literally _because_ they don't have answers. The purpose of life one is especially dumb, since purpose is subjective, so it would be like asking what the best flavor of ice cream is. I mean, I guess you could take a poll and see what most people say, but you can't get around the fact that "best" is a subjective term, not an objective one. Unfortunately, I don't think theists understand the difference between what is subjective and what is objective.

[@SophiaRamirez-d6s]

The whole universe says it all there’s nothing to prove, meanwhile happy new year to y’all, last year being 2024 brought my household a miracle of $30,000 every month, God has been more faithful to us Now I can afford anything and also support the work of God and church

[@ChristopherRamos-l2b]

Really? Please tell me more about this and how possible this is

[@SophiaRamirez-d6s]

This is what Melissa Jonas Richard does, she has changed my life.

[@SophiaRamirez-d6s]

After raising up to 30k trading with her, I bought a new house and car here in the US and also paid for my son’s (Oscar) surgery. Glory to God.shalom.

[@IsabelPlants]

I know Melissa Jonas Richard, and I have also had success

[@IsabelPlants]

Absolutely I have heard stories of people who started with little or no knowledge but managed to emerge victorious thanks to Melissa Jonas Richard.

[@BrianBattles]

Why would anyone think there's "life" after death?

[@kofidan9128]

Because the soul is real. All it takes to gain proof of that is a little bit of a supernatural experience. I and many others have had such experiences.

[@BrianBattles]

@kofidan9128 Those are called delusions or hallucinations. Not proof of a thing.

[@kofidan9128]

​@@BrianBattles(This piece explains God's fail-safe for dealing with the confusion that can arise between God-sent visions, dreams etc and mere mental experiences like delusions, hallucinations etc.) For centuries there's been much talk about heaven. At age 17 during a church service, God literally drove my spirit into heaven to see him and spend time with him and his angels at his throne. Yes, I saw and experienced this incredible joy! This was in the year 2008. As a result of this experience, "Lord of angels" is how I call upon God during battles with demons in the supernatural world. Because God wanted to make sure that I didn't think I was having delusions, he confirmed the reality of that heaven event by telling my pastor, who in turn told me. This account is similar to that of Paul in the Bible, where God involved a third party, the prophet Ananias, to ensure that Paul didn't think he was deluded after seeing Jesus in a vision on his way to Damascus. God's work among humans continues, but it is only experienced by the "chosen few" Jesus talked about. Keeping an open mind and a reasonably receptive heart is necessary to learning the truth. Without these, no amount of evidence will suffice for you. This was why in Jesus's day, many rejected him although he performed countless miracles to prove his Godship. Getting good evidence of God can be easy. You just have to meet the right kind of person. Someone who's genuinely called of God, someone who's truly willing to help, someone who understands your position fairly well. God is coming back into this world to give proof of his existence through supernatural events, just as he did 2,000 years ago. But it's going to be far more glorious this time. However genuine seekers can get to know God and begin a relationship with him well before that time arrives. For now, the best I can do to help is share this brief evidence with others. (God has used this fail-safe throughout history to ensure clarity for his servants. The Bible contains many examples of it.) [An excerpt from my Evidence of God]

[@kofidan9128]

for the full evidence type "dose of reason why god is imaginary 3" in the search box. make sure the video you tap on has the number 3 in its title. Change the comment settings on the video to Newest and then scroll down gently. The evidence is a statement with at least 11 replies. It's a 30min read roughly

[@BrianBattles]

@@kofidan9128 Baloney

[@asdfghjklkjhvbvcvjhvlyhb9957]

Why does science need to explain things that come solely from the creative part of our brains .

[@stephenkaake7016]

its not the brain its the 'mind'

[@asdfghjklkjhvbvcvjhvlyhb9957]

@@stephenkaake7016 The mind is in the brain.

[@craigmckenzie7668]

There is no Santa, Satan, Easter Bunny.....

[@gandalainsley6467]

Satan means adversary so you believe there is Satan. Unless you will stop looking down on people who don't believe like you and you have zero problems with anyone. No morality, no nothing.

[@ImmaPatato-l5o]

@@gandalainsley6467 Did you seriously not know what they were talking about when he said "satan". Having belief system based in pure fantasy must be a recipe for disingenuousness. Morality in no way comes from religion. Maybe no one is looking down on anyone, maybe it is a curiosity of why someone would base their life on adult fantasy that has been plagiarized, edited, mistranslated, and falsified. In other words, if you believe in one fictional character why not believe in Santa Claus, Spiderman, Ra, Shiva, Oden or any other fiction character?

[@MarcusKuann]

​@@gandalainsley6467 Ra means sun. So you believe in the god Ra. What is this dumb logic?

[@iemy2949]

Dinesh will spend the rest of his life waiting for the silence of the mules.

[@richardhedd3080]

Nothing new here. Just Ginesh fishing for a got ya moment.

[@D.MarcelloRadice]

we should not call anymore and do not let them make this nosense war of religions, atheism will disappear and none will miss it.....

[@g1lbert68]

​@D.MarcelloRadicerest

[@g1lbert68]

​@D.MarcelloRadice😂

[@g1lbert68]

​@D.MarcelloRadice😂

[@D.MarcelloRadice]

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[@ijansk]

Stop the bullshit talking. Just present the evidence for the existence of your god and that's all.

[@YouSongSoon]

what evidence you want

[@g1lbert68]

​@@YouSongSoondon't you know what evidence 🧾 is

[@joeshmoe7967]

@@YouSongSoon ALL the evidence, would be good. Also answers to the 1000 questions i have. What is up with god inventing childhood leukimia?

[@gandalainsley6467]

@@joeshmoe7967 Why do you have a problem with death? Like from your own beliefs why do people dying is something that bothers you. After all it does not matter. That is what your beliefs say but why does it bother you? Nothing matters. Not you, not child with leukemia so why do you care? Its a delusional reaction by your own beliefs. Just think about it and you will get answer to your question.

[@YouSongSoon]

@@joeshmoe7967 Goto Church to ask

[@gregoryrothenberger4900]

It amazes me how at every time the guy opposite mat. I don't know his name. Just kept coming up swinging and missing trying to pin Matt down into a response that he wanted because that's what everybody else gives him. And yet Matt was very much aware of what he was trying to do and answered every question truthfully and honestly and factually and that's why I love science and data and that's why I'm opposed to religion and the religious.

[@dany_fg]

the only meaning to life is what we give it, and that makes life even more special to us than just being told what to do. religion tells us we are start at a meaningless life and go to a meaningful after life, while reason and science tells us the opposite, which is far better as it lets us fully experience our existence to its fullest.

[@ImmaPatato-l5o]

Not to mention one is based in fact and one is not.

[@ONSLOWO1]

Why do we have to die to see god, why can’t we see him now? Make me a believer god and show yourself now

[@sparrowprince3432]

You know the answer to your question. Because there is nothing. Never has been.

[@duncanbryson1167]

All that ALL religions have are words, whether written or spoken. Words that one can't go behind for validation, unlike other subjects. There could be a creator deity that has never made its presence known to people, that has never had its user manual telepathically written by people. It snapped its fingers, triggered the singularity and everything then happened as we have observed.

[@D.MarcelloRadice]

we should not call anymore and do not let them make this nosense war of religions, atheism will disappear and none will miss it.....

[@duncanbryson1167]

@D.MarcelloRadice Only if any gods prove their existence to EVERYONE. Religions are on the decline with the exception of Islam. That doesn't mean the offspring of today's Muslims will continue in the religion.

[@jefffowler96]

Can science prove nonsense? No. No, it can not.

[@LM-jz9vh]

According to the general consensus of scholarship *(even critical Christian scholars),* YHWH was originally incorporated into the Canaanite pantheon as a son of the Canaanite high god El before inheriting the top spot in the pantheon and El's wife Athirat (Asherah) before religious reforms "divorced" them. El's pantheon in Ugarit (modern day Ras Shamra in Syria) is called the *Elohim,* literally the plural of El. Interestingly, the Biblical god is also referred to numerous times as Elohim. If you want to see if El is fictional, just read his mythology in the Ugaritic/Canaanite texts. "The mysterious Ugaritic text Shachar and Shalim tells how (perhaps near the beginning of all things) *El* came to shores of the sea and saw two women who bobbed up and down. *El* was sexually aroused and took the two with him, killed a bird by throwing a staff at it, and roasted it over a fire. He asked the women to tell him when the bird was fully cooked, and to then address him either as husband or as father, for he would thenceforward behave to them as they called him. They saluted him as husband. He then lay with them, and they gave birth to Shachar ("Dawn") and Shalim ("Dusk"). Again *El* lay with his wives and the wives gave birth to "the gracious gods", "cleavers of the sea", "children of the sea". The names of these wives are not explicitly provided, but some confusing rubrics at the beginning of the account mention the goddess *Athirat (Asherah),* who is otherwise *El's* chief wife, and the goddess Raḥmayyu ("the one of the womb"), otherwise unknown." *"First, a god named El predates the arrival of the Israelites into Syria-Palestine.* Biblical usage shows El was not just a generic noun, but often a proper name for Israel’s God (e.g., Gen 33:20: “El, the God of Israel”)." "I should add here that it is very clear from the grammar that the noun nachalah in v. 9 should be translated “inheritance.” *Yahweh receives Israel as his “inheritance” (nachalah), just as the other sons of El received their nations as their inheritance (nachal, v. 8).* With this verb, especially in the Hiphil, the object is always what is being given as an inheritance. Thus, Israel is given to Yahweh as his inheritance. ((Here I’m indebted to Dan McClellan.)) It would make no sense for Elyon to give himself an inheritance. Moreover, as I’ve argued elsewhere, it is not just the Gentile nations that are divided up according to the number of the *sons of El.* It is all of humankind, i.e., “the sons of Adam.” This clearly includes Israel. And the sons of Adam are not divided up according to the number of the *sons of El,* plus one (i.e., plus Elyon). They are divided up, according to the text, *solely* according to the number of the *sons of El.* *Thus, that Yahweh receives Israel as his inheritance makes Yahweh one of the sons of El mentioned in v. 8. Any other construal of the text would constitute its rewriting.* A Sumerian hymn speaks to the goddess: “Nanshe, your divine powers are not matched by any other divine powers.” *Does this mean that Nanshe was the high goddess, that there were no gods above her? No, it does not.* Nanshe was the daughter of Enki, the high god. *In Sumerian mythology, as with Ugaritic, Israelite, Babylonian, and others, in the ancient past, the high god (Enki, in this case) divided up the world and assigned his children certain domains.* Nanshe was given a limited domain (the modern Persian Gulf) and was tasked with maintaining social justice there. *This is exactly what we see in Deuteronomy 32 with Yahweh. Yahweh is given a limited domain (Israel) and is given authority over his people, to punish them, as well as to protect and defend them against foreign enemies.* That Yahweh, like Nanshe, is said to have incomparable divine power *does not* mean that he is not subordinate to the high god who gave him his domain. *It is also of note that Nanshe, like Baal, Yahweh, and so many other deities, evolved over time. Her domain increased, and she was promoted in the pantheon (although she never became the high goddess)."* *"The Most Heiser: Yahweh and Elyon in Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32 - Religion at the Margins"* based on the *majority scholarly consensus.* (Written by Thom Stark who is a Christian) *"Michael Heiser: A Unique Species? - Religion at the Margins"* (A second response to Michael Heiser) *"Excerpt from “Yahweh and the Gods and Goddesses of Canaan” by John Day - Lehi's Library."* *"The Table of Nations: The Geography of the World in Genesis 10"* - TheTorah.com (Excluding the short narrative on Nimrod (vv. 8-12), *which appears to be a later addition,* Genesis 10 contains *70* names of nations or cities, a number that was symbolic of totality. Similarly, the descendants of Jacob were *70* in number (Gen 46:37; Exod 1:5), *as were the sons of the supreme Canaanite god El, with whom YHWH became equated.)* *"Polytheism and Ancient Israel’s Canaanite Heritage. Part V | theyellowdart"* (Of course, much of this [i.e., that Israel worshiped El and Asherah alongside YHWH] is really to be expected given that recent syntheses of the *archaeological, cultural, and literary data* pertaining to the emergence of the nation of Israel in the Levant *show that most of the people who would eventually compose this group were originally Canaanite. As the Hebrew Bible notes, the Hebrew language itself is a Canaanite language, literally the “lip of Canaan” (שְׂפַת כְּנַעַן; Is. **19:18**), and so it cannot often be distinguished by modern scholars from other Canaanite inscriptions on purely linguistic grounds.)* *"Ugarit - New World Encyclopedia"* (Ugaritic religion centered on the chief god, Ilu or El, whose titles included "Father of mankind" and "Creator of the creation." The Court of El was referred to as the (plural) 'lhm or ***Elohim,*** a word ***later used by the biblical writers to describe the Hebrew deity*** and translated into English as "God," in the singular. El, which was ***also the name of the God of Abraham,*** was described as an aged deity with white hair, seated on a throne.) *"Mark Smith: Yahweh as El’s Son & Yahweh’s Ascendency - Lehi's Library"* (Mark Smith is a Catholic) *"God, Gods, and Sons (and Daughters) of God in the Hebrew Bible. Part III | theyellowdart"* *"02 | December | 2009 | Daniel O. McClellan - Psalm 82"* (Daniel McClellan is a Mormon) *"Elohim | Daniel O. McClellan"* (Refer to the article "Angels and Demons (and Michael Heiser)") *"God's Wife Edited Out of the Bible - Almost."* (Pay attention to whose wife Asherah (Athirat) is in the Ugaritic/Canaanite texts and how she became the wife of YHWH/Yahweh) *"Yahweh's Divorce from the Goddess Asherah in the Garden of Eden - Mythology Matters."* *"Asherah, God's Wife in Ancient Israel. Part IV - theyellowdart"* *"The Gates of Ishtar - El, was the original god of the bible."* *"The Gates of Ishtar - Anath in the Elephantine Papyri"* (In addition to Asherah (Athirat) being the consort of Yahweh, it appears some Israelites also viewed the Canaanite goddess Anat(h) as Yahweh's consort) *"Canaanite Religion - New World Encyclopedia"* (Refer to the section "Relationship to Biblical Religion") *"The Syncretization of Yahweh and El : reddit/AcademicBiblical"* (For a good summary of all of the above articles) Watch Professor Christine Hayes who lectures on the Hebrew Bible at Yale University. Watch lecture 2 from 40:40 to 41:50 minutes, lecture 7 from 30:00 minutes onwards, lecture 8 from 12:00 to 17:30 minutes and lecture 12 from 34:30 minutes onwards. Watch *"Pagan Origins of Judaism"* by Sigalius Myricantur and read the description in the video to see the scholarship the video is based on. Watch *"How Monotheism Evolved"* by Sigalius Myricantur and watch up to at least 21:40. Watch *"Atheism - A History of God (The Polytheistic Origins of Christianity and Judaism)"* (By a former theist) Watch *"Who is Yahweh - How a Warrior-Storm God became the God of the Israelites and World"* by Dr Justin Sledge at Esoterica (Dr Justin Sledge is Jewish) Watch *"How did Yahweh Become God? The Origins of Monotheism"* by Dr Justin Sledge at Esoterica

[@LM-jz9vh]

Nevertheless, the historical reconstruction that El was the chief god of the Israelites is not indebted only to the testimony of the (rather late) biblical witness of P. *Numerous biblical texts attest to the fact that the titles, functions, and the imagery associated with the Canaanite god El, as revealed by the Ugaritic texts and the Canaanite myth of Elkunirša, were assimilated into the profile of the deity YHWH.* According to the Ugaritic texts, El was known for his *wisdom* (e.g., KTU2 1.4.V.65[6]) and *great age* (’ab šnm, *“Father of Years,”* and drd, *“Ageless One,”* in KTU2 1.4.IV.24 and 1.10.III.6, respectively),[7] his *compassionate nature* (lţpn il dp’id, *“Kind El, the Compassionate One,”* e.g., KTU2 1.16.IV.9), his role as *father of the gods and humanity* (’ab ’adm, *“father of humanity,”* KTU2 1.14..III.47, and bny bnwt, *“creator of creatures,”* KTU2 1.17.I.24) and *creator of the cosmos.* [8] El was the *divine King* (e.g., KTU2 1.2.III.5-6) and the *head of the pantheon or divine council* (referred to variously as the dr ’il, *“circle of El/Family of El,”* KTU2 1.15.III.19; mpħrt bn ’il, *“the assembly of the sons of El,”* KTU2 1.65.3; bn ’il, *“the sons of El,”* KTU2 1.40.33, 41; pħr kbbm, *“assembly of the stars,”* KTU2 1.10.I.3-4; ‘dt ’ilm, *“assembly of the gods,”* KTU2 1.15.II.7; cf. KTU2 1.2.I; 1.3V; 1.4 IV-V) which met at the sacred mountain. *His consort was the goddess Athirat who bore him seventy sons* (šb‘m bn ’atrt, *“the seventy sons of Athirat,”* KTU2 1.4.VI.46). El was also known for his *divine patronage and blessing of progeny to humans* (as in the Epic of Kirta; see, for example, KTU2 1.14.III.46-51), for his *appearances to humans in dreams* (e.g., KTU2 1.14.I.35-37), as *being a healer* (KTU2 1.16.V-VI), and for his *dwelling at the sacred mountain* (e.g., KTU2 1.2.III.5-6) at the *sources of the mythical rivers* (KTU2 1.2.III.4; 1.3.V.6; 1.4.IV.20-22; 1.17.V.47-48) in a *tent* (KTU2 1.2.III.5; 1.3.V.8; 1.4.IV.24; 1.17.V.49; c.f. the Canaanite myth Elkunirša which *describes El’s abode as a tent[9]).[10]* *To underscore the fact that terminology and imagery originally used for the god El was adopted by the Israelites in their descriptions of YHWH,* the following brief summary might be placed in comparison to the discussion of El above: YHWH is an *aged, patriarchal deity* (Ps. 102:28; Job 36:26; Is. 40:28; Dan. 7.9-14, 22), *a father* (Deut. 32:6; Is. 63:16; 64:7; Jer. 3:4, 19; 31:9, etc.), *merciful and gracious* (Ex. 34:6; Jon. 4:2; Joel 2:13; Ps. 8615; 103:8; 145:8, etc.), *a divine patron who bestows the blessing of progeny upon Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob,* often manifesting himself in *dreams or visions, a healer* (Gen. 20:17; Num. 12:13; 2 Kgs. 20:5, 8; Ps. 107:20, etc.), who *dwells in a tent* (Ps. 15:1; 27:6; 91:10; 132:3) *amidst the heavenly waters* (Ps. 47:5; 87; Is. 33: 20-22; Ez. 47:1-12, etc.), the *creator of the cosmos,* who is enthroned as *heavenly King* in the *divine council* (1 Kgs. 22:19; Is. 6:1-8; cf. Ps. 29:1-2; 82; 89: 5-8, etc.) on the *sacred mount of assembly* (e.g., Is. 14:13). Additionally, in much Israelite religious practice throughout the monarchic period, *YHWH had a divine consort, the goddess Asherah, the Hebrew equivalent of Ugaritic Athirat.[11]* (Originally the wife of El) *"When Jehovah Was Not the God of the Old Testament. Part II - theyellowdart"* Watch Professor Christine Hayes who lectures on the Hebrew Bible at Yale University. Watch lecture 2 from 40:40 to 41:50 minutes, lecture 7 from 30:00 minutes onwards, lecture 8 from 12:00 to 17:30 minutes and lecture 12 from 34:30 minutes onwards. Watch *"Pagan Origins of Judaism"* by Sigalius Myricantur and read the description in the video to see the scholarship the video is based on. Watch *"How Monotheism Evolved"* by Sigalius Myricantur and watch up to at least 21:40. Watch *"Who is Yahweh - How a Warrior-Storm God became the God of the Israelites and World"* by Dr Justin Sledge at Esoterica (Dr Justin Sledge is Jewish) Watch *"How did Yahweh Become God? The Origins of Monotheism"* by Dr Justin Sledge at Esoterica ------------------------------------------------------------------ In addition, look up the below articles. *"Jews and Arabs Descended from Canaanites - Biblical Archaeology Society."* ("The study in Cell not only establishes that the ancient Israelites were ***descended from the Canaanites,*** but also establishes that the Canaanite people across the separate city-states of the southern Levant, and over a period of 1,500 years, were a genetically cohesive people.") *"The Canaanites weren't annihilated, they just 'moved' to Lebanon - The Times of Israel."* *"Ancient Canaanite religion explained* - everything.explained.today" *"Archeology of the Hebrew Bible - NOVA - PBS"* ("Many scholars now think that *most of the early Israelites were originally Canaanites, displaced Canaanites,* displaced from the lowlands, from the river valleys, displaced geographically and then displaced ideologically.") *"Origins of Judaism explained* - everything.explained.today" ("According to the current academic historical view, the origins of Judaism lie in the Bronze Age amidst polytheistic ancient Semitic religions, ***specifically evolving out of Ancient Canaanite polytheism,*** then co-existing with Babylonian religion, and syncretizing elements of Babylonian belief into the worship of Yahweh as reflected in the early prophetic books of the Hebrew Bible. (The Torah)". *Refer to the bibliography at the bottom of the page)* *"Canaanite languages - Britannica"* ("Group of Northern Central or Northwestern Semitic languages including ***Hebrew,*** Moabite, Phoenician, and Punic.") *"El - New World Encyclopedia"* (Refer to the section "El Outside the Bible" and the fact that *most of the early Israelites were originally indigenous or displaced Canaanites)* *"El (deity) explained* - everything.explained.today" (Refer to section "Ugarit and the Levant" and the fact that *most of the ancient Israelites were originally indigenous or displaced Canaanites* and see how Yahweh, later conflated with El (Yahweh-El(ohim)) is fictional) *"The Gods and Goddesses of Canaan - Essay - The Metropolitan Museum of Art - Heilbrunn Timeline of Art History"* *"Canaanite Phoenician Origin of the God of the Israelites."* *"The Phoenician (Canaanite) God Resheph in the Bible - Is That in the Bible?"* *"How the Jews Invented God and Made Him Great- Archaeology - Haaretz."* *"When the Jews believed in other gods - Archaeology - Haaretz"* *"The Invention of God - Maclean's"* *"How Did the Bible’s Editors Conceal Evidence of Israelite Polytheism - Evolution of God by Robert Wright."* *"A Theologically Revised Text: Deuteronomy 32:8-9 - Ancient Hebrew Poetry."* *"Biblical Contradiction #3: Which God is the Creator of the Heavens and Earth: Yahweh or El?"* - Dr Steven DiMattei *"Biblical Contradiction #27. Are Yahweh and El the Same God or Not?"* - Dr Steven DiMattei *"Biblical Contradiction **#294**, **#295**, **#296**. Which god liberated Israel from Egypt: Yahweh or El?"* - Dr Steven DiMattei *"Quartz Hill School of Theology - B425 Ugarit and the Bible."* *"The Origins of Yahweh and the Revived Kenite Hypothesis - Is That in the Bible?"* *"Yahweh, god of metallurgy - Fewer Lacunae."* *"Polytheistic Roots of Israelite Religion - Fewer Lacunae."* *"Yahweh was just an ancient Canaanite god. We have been deceived! - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"* *"Religious Studies: El, Yahweh and the Development of Monotheism in Ancient Israel."* *"Yhwh, God of Edom - Daniel O. McClellan."*

[@OriginalKarasu]

A wise man once asks people: What is the opposite of death? People answer life. That is incorrect. He answers. The opposite of life is birth. So many people do not see that.

[@JaguarBST]

Must be hard when your opponent effectively shuts down your argument and you are forced to move onto another only to repeat the same thing 😂

[@TexanLivingInExileInLasVegas]

The "obsession" with the purpose of life exists because there is a purpose to life. Why else would we "just try to live life the best we can"? If there is no purpose, what is best? Why fear death if nothing exists afterwards?

[@Paul-fg6mk]

What was the conscious purpose of life for Neanderthals and those who came before them? I think the idea of a purpose in life goes back to the first sedentary societies. So it's a pretty "modern" concept in human history!

[@hinduismwithpremananddasbhagat]

This is one of my fave stand-up comedy shows. I give credit to Matt for just sitting there and holding back the laughter. I assume he found Dinesh's new career as a comedian lacking in punchlines. I mean, he's trying to be a comedian, right, cause there's nothing here that shows anything really new

[@eddieheron1939]

Per the 7 Star discussion, we fever did massing much importance to ‘what’s up there’ back when we assumed this earth was central to everything, to the point of inventing complex paths to accommodate those moons round Jupiter and Saturn. There were so many Newtonian moments in our past, where ‘childish’ assumptions were later totally overwritten by later discoveries or brilliant conclusions.

[@derekharley7343]

Regarding stars. It says in the bible that the stars will fall to earth. Check it out. This alone proves that this book was written by people who didn’t know what a star was. Any star in the sky would melt the earth before it got close.

[@irithindyr]

My favorite way to ask a religious person is: "Describe god or life without using the words "god, bible, jesus, or anything that humans have created, physical or not" Their brain spins and they cant describe it without just stating existence in its basic form.

[@ch11ew12y]

I've never heard anyone say who gods mother and father are

[@kazax01]

Dinesh keeps loosing every debate he gets into. Why is anyone thinks he is relevant? Just a waist of time

[@johnpanter9714]

Religion "we don't know so it must be god* Science *we don't know so let's find out"

[@jackcleveland1175]

If an all powerful being can't just show up and speak for itself, is it really all powerful? Or real?

[@JohnRowe-gd5jt]

The purpose question sucks because all religious people will just appeal to emotion by saying that having no ultimate purpose is sad and must make life miserable. I’d say im living a pretty happy life ✌️

[@raptormadrid4084]

The universe has been very clear. There is no intrinsic purpose to our lives. Purpose is what you make it, and so far i see no purpose to god, since it can not be proven.

[@marvincudjoe]

Near-death experiences (NDEs) often evoke profound insights into the nature of consciousness and the human experience. These phenomena typically involve individuals reporting vivid sensations, such as feelings of peace, detachment from the body, and encounters with bright lights or deceased loved ones. Such experiences can lead to significant changes in a person's perspective on life and death, The study of NDEs raises intriguing questions about the interplay between the mind and body, as well as the potential for consciousness to exist beyond physical life which can be interpreted as evidence of a higher power.

[@Stashmo]

Not really.

[@zackpetranoff]

Why does it point to a higher power and not an altered brain state? Hallucinogens also do the same thing as what you're describing from NDE. Is LSD evidence for a higher power too?

[@QuestionThingsUseLogic]

NDEs are nothing more than chemical changes within the brain due to oxygen starvation. It's that simple. Nothing on 'the other side'..

[@Palmbeach33486]

What a waste of time to prove a non-verifiable God!😅😂

[@Girlsforever1982]

No one can prove God to anyone but themselves. Stop trying. Just say, "I can't prove it", and move on. Why waste your time with people who won't believe? It's a belief not a fact, there is no proving it. God bless everyone 🙏

[@Theproclaimed]

What a convenient cop out

[@kofidan9128]

​@@Theproclaimedif you want proof of God, read my evidence in the comments

[@Catherine-u8l]

Even after we die and believe we meet God there's no way to know it's " God."

[@kofidan9128]

​@@Catherine-u8lactually there's a way to know, even before we die

[@kofidan9128]

​@@Catherine-u8l(This piece explains God's fail-safe for dealing with the confusion that can arise between God-sent visions, dreams etc and mere mental experiences like delusions, hallucinations etc.) For centuries there's been much talk about heaven. At age 17 during a church service, God literally drove my spirit into heaven to see him and spend time with him and his angels at his throne. Yes, I saw and experienced this incredible joy! This was in the year 2008. As a result of this experience, "Lord of angels" is how I call upon God during battles with demons in the supernatural world. Because God wanted to make sure that I didn't think I was having delusions, he confirmed the reality of that heaven event by telling my pastor, who in turn told me. This account is similar to that of Paul in the Bible, where God involved a third party, the prophet Ananias, to ensure that Paul didn't think he was deluded after seeing Jesus in a vision on his way to Damascus. God's work among humans continues, but it is only experienced by the "chosen few" Jesus talked about. Keeping an open mind and a reasonably receptive heart is necessary to learning the truth. Without these, no amount of evidence will suffice for you. This was why in Jesus's day, many rejected him although he performed countless miracles to prove his Godship. Getting good evidence of God can be easy. You just have to meet the right kind of person. Someone who's genuinely called of God, someone who's truly willing to help, someone who understands your position fairly well. God is coming back into this world to give proof of his existence through supernatural events, just as he did 2,000 years ago. But it's going to be far more glorious this time. However genuine seekers can get to know God and begin a relationship with him well before that time arrives. For now, the best I can do to help is share this brief evidence with others. (God has used this fail-safe throughout history to ensure clarity for his servants. The Bible contains many examples of it.) [An excerpt from my Evidence of God]

[@patcaza6166]

whenever they start with "let me answer that" I'm automatically out of there its a mystery or made up lies, cant be both

[@Pepsolman]

The real meaning of life is very lonely and why so many avoid accepting it. We all die alone.

[@Bugsy0333]

Life after death ? I think the bigger question is who would want to live forever ?

[@jygawali]

I am at the 10:00 minute mark, and I can’t help but notice D’Souza penetrating an inch more into his grave with each unfolding question. The other guy is too smart to not afford him any luxury to the slightest of detail.

[@johnwilson9906]

Prove that God does not exist then.

[@WhosWho-rg7fd]

It's the "look around" argument that atheist cannot stand. It drives them crazy. But it's this scripture that atheists hate the most is the one that's going to condemn them. Romans 1.20 "For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse"

[@Theproclaimed]

atheists don’t give a crap about your scriptures in general. If anything would be “hated” it’s the scriptures condoning genocide and slavery.

[@josephsutton8817]

On the last point, the dog analogy, in addition to what Matt said because, as Dinesh said, there are dogs that we have experienced, that we know exist combined with other indicators that dogs must exist in other countries. Dinesh’s corresponding analogy that just because we have no evidence we can’t state that god doesn’t exist falls short in one very important way. We have already established that dogs exist because there is evidence, therefore we can infer that other dogs exist from that evidence. The analogy doesn’t apply because the believer doesn’t have the evidence that god exists in the first place. I know dogs exist because one is sleeping right next to me. There is no such evidence for god.

[@Shayzare]

Lazarus came back from the dead. So, no one asked and document what he experienced? The Bible seems to be a Comic Book to me

[@curtisbressler]

Ever notice how childish the theist argument is, not to mention how completely detached their arguments are from being analogous to the god claim? Instead of talking about their lack of evidence for any god, they bring up dogs and visible stars and "does your girlfriend really love you" arguments.

[@GormKjeldsen]

"It's a mistake to think that science is about how the world *is*. Science is about what we can say about the world." For example, what er can say about life after death, is that we don't have any credible evidence that there is one.

[@jonnyroy2008]

Why does Dinesh endlessly go into some metaphorical situation exercise....instead of stating his position or response directly?

[@AmericanHarleyRider]

He must have watched a lot of Jordan Peterson.

[@kofidan9128]

The hallmark of a true intellectual is the willingness to view evidence aka open-mindedness. Also, skimming isn't reading. Read my evidence and learn about our maker. In the comments, I explain how to find said evidence.

[@HansZarkovPhD]

Which god? Why the judeo christian one?

[@titantim]

10:26 "That is a tedious and predictable response" - The guy who only gives tedious and predictable non-answers. Sorry Dinesh, an answer which is simple but still rips apart what you were saying may be predictable, but it doesn't make it any less potent.

[@HereToSuffer247]

For all the intelligent people who sees this comment, at what point do we just give up debating religious people? Like if people cant grow up and concede their god is not real at what point do intelligent people just say f this?

[@RobertWorkman-y5u]

The purpose is to be WOKE at all times and explore beyond the edges of the flat Earth. To go where no man has gone before.

[@jaredmast2335]

Complicated way to argue god of the gaps and pascal's wager.

[@DDanV]

I love that most theists are like _"what's the meaning of life? we have to have a meaning, so god",_ but in the same breath say their only _raison d'être_ (reason to exist) is to worship one being... how pathetic is that?! It's infinitely better to say there's no objective meaning to the Universe and to life and live our lives for the sake of it than to just worship one being that apparently used to love to have fathers sacrificing their children for absolutely the dumbest things, was petty and would destroy entire civilizations (they wish, but never happened) because they didn't worship it, lets kids suffer and die by the thousands, that judges people by how much they kiss its naked behind and not by their worth as a person regardless of conviction or faith... so yeah, even if god was to come down to Earth and present itself I still wouldn't worship that sod excuse of a "creator".

[@BabyQuasarX]

Life isn't obligated to provide purpose in your life. Religion supporting the idea of immortality. After death, you shall be rewarded for your punishments and sins. Just some reasons why religion is broken and outdated.

[@thedukeofnorton]

Arrogance isn’t a replacement for intelligence.

[@graemerose1616]

"we have no understanding" so let's use God of the gaps to explain it.

[@tongleekwan1324]

Whenever a believer said proof of god, then you know it is a waste of time listening to him/ her

[@BenjaminIMeszaros]

He overstepped with the divorce data argument here. The data suggests that 50%+ of marriage end in divorce in our society at this stage in our culture, but that doesn’t mean that people are happier and more fulfilled as a result. I’m a straight up agnostic and even I can see that this is flimsy logic. I wish rationally people would do a better job only asserting rational opinions with people like Dinesh, because poor arguments like this sour the rest of the conversation.

[@tawhv]

On the question: What happens after death? We know it, and the Bible knows it too. We are made of stardust and decay back into stardust. Not only that, but we are eaten by bacteria and worms and continue to live as such. »Until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are, and to dust you shall return.« Genesis 3:19

[@Theproclaimed]

We don’t become “dust” and we weren’t “dust” before. The Bible is wrong about this just like it’s wrong about a bunch of other things

[@tawhv]

@@Theproclaimed This part of the Bible is more than 2500 years old and is based on even older creation myths. Considering the knowledge of nature that people had back then, this part of the Bible is amazingly close to today's science.

[@michaelcole506]

The more and more I see an atheistic ‘movement’, the more I am concerned that it is becoming an actual religion. As an “atheist”, I don’t care if people want to believe in something supernatural, and therefore I don’t even make religion a topic of conversation. Believing in magic doesn’t hurt anyone until they try to use it.

[@ElMeroPrincipeX]

Well, you’re still wrong. It is not a religion in anyway. Not believing in something is not a religion. And there is no doctrine or any dogma’s.

[@michaelcole506]

@ Doesn’t matter what the belief/disbelief is, that’s not the point. So called “atheists” are literally holding congregations and spreading the ‘good word’ like every other religion or cult. I’m not making an effort to force people what not to believe, not until they try to use or force it upon me. I can see having discussions about why a belief shouldn’t be used in a specific situation, but they aren’t doing that here. They are literally trying to convince each other of their belief/disbelief. Literally the most useless conversation anyone could have, and is why I don’t ask people about their religion. If you like Santa Clause, great. Like him and leave me the hell alone.

[@wedzistar1]

There is no divine accounting for anything in private unless the whoever is doing the judging has made it known first. The current 'Sins' are man made rules that they can only enforce using fear of the unknown.

[@robertschriek1353]

We dont know. We can speculate, but we just dont know.

[@Mr.business7777]

With a god like that? who would want a god like that to exist?

[@pjreyes91]

Dinesh should not even be given a platform. Was he asked about the lies in his movie 2000 mules?

[@kofidan9128]

The hallmark of a true intellectual is the willingness to view evidence aka open-mindedness. Also, skimming isn't reading. Read my evidence of God in the comments for proof of God. Thanks!

[@ejflor1313]

“Let me try to answer that”. Always a preamble

[@guywilletts2804]

Sfter the total humiliation DSouza got at the hands of Alex O'Connor, he's got some cheek trying his luck with Dilahunty.

[@russellbelfast]

"I don't want to debate the detail here, I just want to look at the macro picture." - Dinesh D'Souza And there you have it folks, proof that no matter how succinct or compelling your argument is, you'll never win against charlatans like Dinesh.