PS2, GameCube, and Wii in your Pocket! - Retroid Pocket 4 Pro First Look

[@TakiUdon]

Long time, no see. If there's something you'd like me to cover in the full review, leave a suggestion.

[@ZAPOMAGO]

tweak out the bejesus our of it for switch. mostly indie switch games that are also on PC.

[@Bugside]

So genshin impact, please Also, what snapdragon device is this chip comparable to?

[@OxysLokiMoros]

Saturn Games!

[@PACKTdotSPACE]

I'd like to see the screen color "corrected" with software as you mentioned in the video. I'm okay losing out on some contrast and brightness if it helps to somewhat correct the white balance of the panel. Was very interested in the device until seeing how bad the panel looked.

[@dragoryxion]

First of all great video Taki! Multiplayer support, HDMI output with BT gamepad support would be terrific!

[@YourWishes]

Considering how terrible Borderlands 2 ran on a vita natively, I'd call that stellar emulation

[@canadianturtle7240]

Can't believe that game was even a thing on Vita. Should've never been released

[@JEMA333]

@@canadianturtle7240to be honeest it was a quite good game one of the best games on the console. it takes some jank to get used to but definitely there is a good game there! i had a modded ps vita at the time but i remember being in love with it and how surprisingly smooth it ran when OVERCLOCKED. not many people go that far but when it works- Trust me it works! i remember playing the thing for about a year straight lol. before i sold it for some weed like a dumb ass.

[@JEMA333]

@@canadianturtle7240when on default settings the game is near unplayable if your not a very big borderlands fan.

[@covids12345]

@@canadianturtle7240im happy it did lmao, now it can be emulated

[@The_MEMEphis]

​@@covids12345 There's not really a reason to emulate the game though and it's already on PC probably shouldn't get this device if you want to play borderlands 2

[@lorentzen.montoya]

That screen evaluation in the end was amazing

[@phinyo2066]

I don't get how he didn't know that Retroid knows about the screen color issue and it's only on the review units and will be fixed for retail. Retro Handhelds and Russ and them knew about this and mentioned it.

[@TheBdog113]

​@phinyo2066 Sounds like a whole lot of copium. That screen shouldn't have left the factory let alone go to one of the biggest reviewers of their products. There's a good reason Taki hasn't reviewed any of their devices in some time.

[@jakeliujakeliu]

If you think the preproduction product is okay for review, you know how they treat final product.

[@akamemurasame4527]

@@TheBdog113 I mean even in the video when he did the comparison. The leftmost was a review RP3 and the middle left was a retail RP3. How is it coping to expect the same thing to happen for RP4?

[@ConcasicoWoodworks]

9:37 now this is something I'm interested in since I would mostly want this to play retro shooter, and hearing about that dead zone on the triggers worries me

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

The dead zone is something that can be adjusted with updates so hopefully a none issue in the long-run

[@remiilatte]

Thanks for the video. I believe goretroid is aware of the screen color balance and have said the production screens wont have the green tint and they are working on an OTA update for the engineering samples.

[@Daniel-fi7jp]

Your shot the shoulder buttons and triggers does a great job of showing the textured feel! Insane to see how the industry is evolving and refining tbe smaller design components

[@green929392]

I love the way you review products, it's alot more interesting and engaging then others.

[@TakiUdon]

I appreciate that!

[@kohakkanuva3224]

I think the RP2s was the testing ground for most of what retroid wanted to do on the RP4. They use a lot of similar components and generally seems like a product that was meant to take more of the risk for the RP4

[@willitine]

Great review video on the RP4 Pro. Glad you tested FFX! Runs smoothly! Awesomeness!!

[@SireSalty]

Thank you for your focus on grip with the triggers. That could easily trigger carpal tunnel after only a minute or 2, so i appreciate the information.

[@YRGHY2010]

I won’t lie - that green tint is so intense. Especially as a guy with tons of displays, it’ll stick out like a sore thumb. Looks like I’ll skip until they fix this issue.

[@suhtangwong]

Greens my favorite color, this will suit my green rp4 pro as well 👍

[@iannoah2195]

A Retroid Pocket 3S with rp4pro specs would be killer.

[@Roosader]

Do you mean 2S? Cause I agree that'd be pretty cool.

[@iannoah2195]

@@Roosader Yeah! 4:3 with these specs.

[@chikipichi5280]

How did the screen being green get past every quality control for review units 😭

[@mattdavis9601]

Bob the screen tester is colorblind...

[@theenthusiast4218]

during the retro handheld livestream they already confirmed that the screen contract issues will be fixed with a firmware update. seems all the pre-release devices have this issue.

[@dtape]

Taki points out though at 33:08 that software fixes to correct screens comes at the cost of overall screen performance. It's a compromise, not a "free" fix.

[@joshualennie4976]

Apparently, I'm the only person who doesn't mind the select/start placement on the rp3/+. After playing it for about a day, I had no problem with the location. In fact, going back to play on my PSP, I find myself reaching for the TOP to locate those buttons. I would have MUCH rather seen that space used for front-facing speakers. Speaker placement is my biggest complaint about the device, as I frequently rest the handheld on my fingers and end up blocking the speaker ports. I'm not likely to jump on the RP4 as my 3+ is mostly a PSP handheld, and it excels at that.

[@dtape]

Yeah I got accustomed to the start/select buttons on top quickly too. It was a relatively minor design choice compared to the vocal backlash. I did the Konami code in Life Force no problem first try today on my RP3+. Good point that front firing speakers would have been a better and more meaningful update on the RP4.

[@colinmartin9797]

Looks like this is going to be the device that I was hoping it would be. Price was never really a concern, I wanted a form factor like this that had basicslly full ps2 performance. I was kinda torn on the idea of a 16:9 device or waiting for a 4:3 one, but I think I want the 16:9 since it can handle wide-screen hacks and I'm more interested in the psp/vita library, and after not falling in love with the anbernic 405m. I'll be grabbing one of these on Friday and the rg405m will be going up for sale. Also per Retro game corps, the screen issue is fixed now

[@CRISISYoutube]

big balla

[@DeadAmericanBestAmerican]

Hopefully they fix the analog triggers with an update. Make it linear instead of exponential

[@KawikaLee408]

Maaan. Great review as always. I've had my flip for literally 2 months today. I definitely love my clamshell but there's no denying this is a better, more exciting experience. I knew there would be some fomo buying a device right before going in to the new year. There's always something new in the world of emulation these days.

[@villanelleprotectionagency5772]

to see examples of crash bandicoot games for ps2 would be awesome! great vid cant wait for more :)

[@MrTurtlebird]

I'm glad you called out the whole catalog percentage thing that some reviewers do. Much love to Russ but it drives me insane when he says stuff like "Roughly half should be playable" PS2 emulation is hardly a given even on current PCSX2 builds and high end PCs, it's damn sure not gonna be that simple on a dead emulator running on mobile chipsets

[@jimmythumbtack]

Yayyy, Mommy and Daddy finally stopped fighting!! Now that you two are good can you please tell Mom to shove all of this into a Flip 2.0 with lots of pretty transparent case choices?

[@christianr.5868]

I'd love a flip 2 so much tbh

[@petrik_petrik]

That r2 buttons the perfect immersion for pulling up a gun ngl😂

[@yagami999913]

They fixed the green screen calibration on the retail version

[@Schatten.mensch]

It certainly looks like a promising device ... this in a clamshell format like the RP Flip and with a decent screen would be very difficult to resist. I'm excited for the full review and your ideas for quantifying PS2 compatibility.

[@J4sonkempson]

Pretty thorough for a first look, you got a subscriber and i don't even do mobile emulation.

[@organicio]

Great video Taki! I'd love to see emulation tests for Need For Speed Underground 2 or Hot Pursuit 2

[@angelll1884]

I wanna know how it run dragonball z bt2 and 3

[@unnamedtechchannel]

Great video. Cannot wait to receive mine. Your channel is one reason I decided to start my own.

[@BigBon03]

Maybe you will add the settings of all emulators to the video? It would help a lot.

[@oliwek70]

Ah, cool to see your opinion about this one 👍 I'm curious to hear if the Dimensity SOCs are as well supported as snapdragon are, for emulation....

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

They're not

[@What7YiYue]

It's not, but dimensity chip is cheaper so there you go.

[@smileandlaughs]

Man the clear look so great!.. I hope the blue one is just as good.

[@Honethite]

I am so GLAD you tested the battery and charging performance, my big worry was the battery going empty faster than it can charge while playing over hdmi.

[@alexwithvaz]

Please test Gothic 1 or Gothic 2 on Switch🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@suhtangwong]

Soo glad they moved the select/start to a functional location! But maybe to make it even better, separate them outside the screen like most controllers? 🤔

[@tawawani]

I wish they move the select start to the left as it much easier when pressing retroarch hotkey

[@form4li7y]

8:26 - 10:31 So close and yet so very far away from perfect. Now that these systems are getting into later generations of emulation, analogue triggers and their continued use during gameplay must be sorted out. That much dead zone is inexcusable and cramping during an FPS will end your playtime quick. As much as they want it to be compact, a little extra plastic to help ergonomics may be in order. On a side note incase the company sees this... PLEASE start making these things with back buttons. as small as they are, having back buttons for L3 & R3 would be very helpful.

[@DNAMobileGaming]

The Retroid Pocket 3S is finally in Takis hands!

[@TakiUdon]

XD

[@ardnehsan]

I’d love it if they could come out with an upgrade kit for the RP3+ but I’m not expecting it. Still some nice upgrades on the RP4

[@janelain8439]

I mean, it looks kinda the same, but perry much everything for changed.

[@CraigPeds1]

If this form factor had gen 2 or 3 snap dragon it would be on order already.

[@pspsmallz]

Thanks for the honest review. The screen having such a big downside pretty much convinced me to pass on the rp4/pro for now. A good screen is undeniably important for a handheld and I just cant accept something thats consideref mid range to have a poor one. Its the same reason I passed on the og steam deck and didnt pick one up until the oled released. Once you are paying multiple benjamins for a handheld device, it better damn well have a good screen without the need to wait for software calibration that you might have to do yourself or even wait an entirely new hardware revision.

[@A_Bottle-Of_Orange_Crush]

The screen should be fixed on retail models

[@jimbo1807821]

Tbf no matter the cost you don’t want stuff like the green tint but I look at what I bought 10 yrs ago for emulation at the same cost and I’m blown away by this regardless. Each to their own though my bro has waited for the oled deck for exactly the same reasons

[@suhtangwong]

You should throw away all your cheap whacky 4k tvs and wait for the 12k tvs in couple years.

[@blakeromo]

The screen is only off on review and engineering units. Those units will be fixed with an ota update, and the official units will ship with this problem corrected out of the box.

[@gorgeluis]

@@blakeromo source?

[@PP-cq7zy]

I recommend using on mario galaxy 1 & 2 the riivolution patch that makes the game playable with the classic controller 🙌🏼

[@shirotonbo6315]

ありがとう、タキさん。 相変わらず美味しい貢献です。 Delicious review, thanks man!

[@cofa641]

My RP3+ screen is yellow at least as your RP4 Pro screen is green. I mention it because you don't have a Retroid like that in the video. Luckily there are Android settings to fix the colors, however it's annoying to buy a device without knowing the screen it will come with.

[@VeshSneaks]

During the Retro Handhelds stream, Retroid said they'd be fixing the screens in the firmware before release. All the pre-release models appear to have the same issue.

[@Zaaacharias]

Thanks!

[@carlosdavids777]

Is plug and play? i mean all rooms and emulators are installed?

[@agentmueller]

I wonder if taki, our sovereign king, has developed this himself just like all the other retro devices! God speed taki, thank you for single handedly designing, manufacturing, and shipping these devices for our pleasure.

[@TakiUdon]

herp derp 00:26

[@david_lauw]

Might give this a miss and get an Odin 2. Thanks Taki

[@david_lauw]

@@superfurryjelly Just pulled the trigger on a white pro model. Can't wait 🥳

[@BxB510]

I just really hope I can play Auto Modellista on the go now... 🤞🏽🤞🏽 Waiting for my 16bit color way. Started with the RP2+ and Miyoo Mini+. Love them both but I need a portable GameCube and the RP4P seems to be it

[@TakiUdon]

You can, I tested it.

[@BxB510]

Great to hear! Such a hidden gem of a game, thanks for the great video man. Was waiting for your review specifically

[@Schalari]

7:21 Speaking of the R2/L2 Buttons. This could be easy fixed with software update, isn´t it?

[@kitsinu1]

RP4/RP4Pro is 750x1334 touchscreen versus the 1080x1920 touchscreen for the Odin Lite. CPU-GPU is the same D900 on the RP4 and Odin Lite. RP4Pro is D1100 versus Qualcomm Snapdragon SD845 on the Odin. Price of RP4 4GB/128GB is $149 versus $207 4GB/64GB or $237 6GB/128GB. RP4Pro is $199.

[@MadBrax]

I am super interested in this, such a compact little beast. Might pick this up!

[@KrazzyKlown]

I feel like the shoulder button issue can be fixed in software with a driver update, but half the range being in the last 10% of the physical movement is a problem.

[@Kumimono]

I do wonder if the, deadzone? Of the analog shoulders, is a software deal. You'd think the whole range of the potentiometer would be used.

[@Veerorith]

4:22 I just learned a new way to use my digital calipers, thanks lmao

[@SimplestUsername]

That color shift should be fixable by updating the color profile so long as the green tint is consistent between units.

[@phinyo2066]

ago don't get how he didn't know that Retroid knows about the screen color issue and it's only on the review units and will be fixed for retail. Retro handhelds and Russ and them knew about this and mentioned it.

[@tao811]

Damnnn i love watching this kind of vids for like past 3 yrs even though i can't buy this kind of devices

[@takyo18]

Damn that was really in-depth for a first look 🫡

[@amr-OH]

the Pro specs mention it can output 1080p via USB C. is that true, and does that bypass the resolution scaling issue?

[@NiallOSullivan]

Taki, I have been begging reviewers all over the place to show some Monster Hunter 3DS on the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro. I'm so happy to see Monster Hunter 4 running on this handheld. Can't wait til mine arrives. Thank you.

[@othertwishart]

Yeesh, I was SOLD on the RP4 Pro before seeing this video. Now I'm honestly having second thoughts on buying one.

[@samh5886]

Surprised about the screens as i always thought they are the exact same (of course subject to panel manufacturing variance) across the rp3/3+/4 due to the same resolution/size and for economies of scale reason. I don't have any issue with the rp3+ screen, though i sold mine after some months due to the small screen size, small buttons and lack of ergonomics/grip (not interested in an external one).

[@jasonwong6599]

😊

[@garethUK]

I understand your concerns over the sensitivity of those triggers but given you were involed with having the start and select buttons on the top of the RP3 which is just the craziest decision ever, it feels a bit rich. I've ordered one. I already have a bunch of devices including the Odin 2 Max but this really feels like a decent little device for the money.

[@OscarOliu]

So pretty much at this point, by an old Xiaomi Mi 9t Pro and a Razer Controller and just enjoy it lol

[@ThemelisPikos]

What’s the first game in the Android Gaming chapter? It’s at 21:15 or so.

[@John__117]

When is E6 review coming out? Is there a base and pro model of that handheld?

[@TakiUdon]

There's one device on my to-do list before it. There is a pro model, but it doesn't exist yet.

[@John__117]

@@TakiUdon Thanks Taki. Your channel is great, and I'm impressed you interact with the comments as much as you do and still have another job (I am little curious what that job is and why you don't do KZbin full time). As you know, there will always be haters online and in this community.... well they are wrong. Keep up the great work!

[@gregorybolivar5712]

Indeed... Straight up an Odin 2 Mini... Hardware and Software wise... Happy Gaming...👌🤯🧐

[@marshalltucker1159]

But does it play need for speed underground 2?

[@kingchangling]

9:30 feels more like a personal preference vs an issue with the device. like on my switch in handheld mode i still pretty much hold R and ZR together with two fingers as it helps change the hand position to make precise(or as precise as the joycons can be) aiming. issue still stems tho if you did want to use only your pointer finger and thumb only then you would need to swap the position of the ABXY and the stick akin to something like the wii u gamepad or steam controller(technically)

[@PakitoVlogs]

Super Mario Galaxy looks AMAZING 😍❤

[@afiqazman295]

Hope can get giveaways for this 😁

[@Djanthonyd]

So in your opinion. What is better this or the ayn oden 2pro ?

[@elemileTLDR]

Thank you very much! Bummer you were not involved on this one, though. With Yuzu out of the question, I now only want to know if stable Dolphin, Citra and AetherSX2 are possible @2x with base model instead of Pro.

[@viridionwaves]

This "first impression" is the equivalent of many channels' reviews lol

[@MikeN_LA]

If it can run ps2 Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2 perfectly out of the box I’m sold.

[@HannesMrg]

For how long Do These Usually get Software/Security Updates? Should last longer than a phone, so it's Kind of important I think.

[@TakiUdon]

~ 1 year

[@passme300]

@TheRetroTechDad addressed this screen issue yesterday in his video. This was confirmed by Retroid themself. It will be fixed via OTA, hopefully soon when the device gets shipped.

[@A_Bottle-Of_Orange_Crush]

What is OTA?

[@lolight2]

@@A_Bottle-Of_Orange_Crush Over The Air Updates :)

[@passme300]

@@A_Bottle-Of_Orange_Crush Over The Air System Update!

[@A_Bottle-Of_Orange_Crush]

Thanks guys.

[@samh5886]

It will be at some cost though like what Taki mentioned at the end as these adjustment, but yea it will still be for the better overall, especially for the typical users.

[@KrazzyKlown]

Taki with the calipers giving the people the specs they want.

[@TheNotoriousFJ]

yooo, one question: if I got my hands in one of those, do I have to manually download and install the emulators/roms? great video, as usual @taki! thank you

[@KikiAelita]

This is what I was looking for a year or two ago; I can't impulse buy it since I have an OG Deck these days so it's not really justifiable anymore. The pocketable size would sure be great though! Maybe something I'd pick up in summer.

[@EhrenLoudermilk]

Yep, sold. Exactly what i was waiting for

[@Raphtor13]

Great intro to RP4 Pro. Would really like to see how it does with Phantasy Star Portable from PSP on your emulation video.

[@TheOldFartGamer]

thankyou for the detail review. you are the most trusted reviewer on handhelds on the internet. none of the other reviewers go through the deep actual use details that you do to pick out issues that other reviews don't do.

[@jong2359]

"Hey guys, this device is rad, you can buy it in blue, white, black and purple. I really think that purple is the best color, and it looks amazing." -- most handheld reviewers

[@phinyo2066]

I think Retro Game Corps goes just as in depth but in different areas. For instance he talks about pocketability and how well it travels

[@nefariou5]

I cant wait for a review after the OTA update, want to see how bad the screen is after the color balancing, hopefully it's not too bad. also I really hope the trigger sensitivity/dead zone can be improved

[@LimeyOtoko]

How well does the RP4 run Android Fortnite?

[@4DoorsENT]

Sooo ps2 runs well?

[@smileandlaughs]

What's the deal with the screen? I thought they were using the same screen on the rp3+. Why is everybody having this problem?

[@mrhow2712]

isn't the ayn Odin 2 a way better option? I mean it will run all this stuff and much better, and yeah this device is "pocketable" but let's be honest how many people are walking around with these in their pockets anyway, also it's not way more pocketable than the ayn or anything just slightly, both are still portable.

[@andreaskozis]

Why people seem to forget price when comparing things? Pocketable, plays most games odin 2 can play, at least 100 dollars cheaper. Depends on your needs really

[@Oz_Darkr1d3r]

I would love to buy one of these nice handhelds but I'm nervous that I'm not going to understand it. I was never a PC gamer only had consoles and when I hear stuff like using certain cores, 2x native, dolphin emulator. That would all confuse me so then I end up not buying any and stick to consoles. 😂

[@Platchums]

I was hoping this was a review of the RP4 per your title but it’s the RP4 Pro. You should update it as it’s a bit misleading when other reviews of the Pro are already out but there are none of the standard

I personally use the daijisho launcher as my launcher on android. Love the review, ty

[@leonardomatheus1888]

Hey taki, can you please let the cpu float with battery current active while you test emulators? I really wanna see its power consumption, in low end and high end emulation.

[@lucasm20]

As much as I'd like a symmetrical layout, I'll stick with my Odin 2 Max. It's nice that there's more competition and variety on the market though.

[@jierenzheng7670]

Man, if only joycons had the same setup symmetrical joysticks and larger buttons would be awesome.

[@BSG1991]

Great review I am getting the odin 2, I hope they bring the dimensity 900 to the 2 form factor though

[@lilalj07]

Thank you for taking the time to do this video. Does the RP4 Pro output to 1080p via USB C?

[@kuroneko8506]

yes

[@McSmeecherson]

What were the dolphin tweaks? Also I'm assuming the trigger sensitivity can be fixed via software updates?

[@TakiUdon]

I'll talk about it in another video. As for the sensitivity, yes it is possible to fix that via an OTA.

[@Jamato-sUn]

Thank goodness they moved Select and Start

[@velvia7880]

I find the analog sticks to be very slippery? Wish they'd have some grippy pattern on the edges, or similar to the ones on GPD Win 4.

[@melvinsin641]

@TakiUdon, between the RP4 (D900, 5000mAh) at $149, the RP4pro (D1100, 5000mAh) at $199, and the Odin base (SD845, 6600mAh) at $199, which do you think is the best value among these 3?

[@augosyx]

I’m considering RP4 but until I get the confirmation that this and the Pro (I think) is the FINAL product and not have a Plus model in the long run then it’ll be in my watchlist.

[@GatCat]

Thank goodness you went over the slight differences of the box it came in :)