PS2 HDD to SSD - Plus silent fan!

[@tylerrose9758]

The editing is good. The voice over is good. The cinematography and shot selection is good. The information is great. Even your logo is fuckin slick. You deserve a million subs my dude.

[@Iristallite]

that clock glitch was hilarious!

[@joaoc_PT]

Yeah, 400 VDC capacitor traces are fun. Discharge by powering it after off from mains should take care of that.

[@cutemimi25]

Only on early fat models have the power supply on the top, later ones like the 50000 model which I have the power supply is on the bottom. You did an amazing job here.

[@zackm9910]

Also I believe he has the 10 screw model which is one of the very first revisions of the ps2

[@BIGwillTHEGAME]

I used FMCB and HDDOSD for my PS2. I transferred the games with a usb to sata adapter. However, I might buy the sd memory card soon. I also use PCSX2 on my portable gaming PC on the go.

[@karldunne6355]

Epic video. Just modded mine with that GELID fan. 12v model but will start at 4.5v so works with or without the Network adapter. Thanks again

[@zackm9910]

It is funny as I'm watching and I see you found an alternative to the Noctua fan as I have one coming in the mail right now. I also had this thought. After watching I'm glad I just paid for the Noctua fan. However, really nice work!

[@MrReese]

3:15 They do now, it's called the Noctua NF-A6x15! And they exist in 12V and 5V.

[@tnaplastic2182]

15:30 INCORRECT! You can mount it through network via NBD and it will be like any other HDD that is in your PC! You can manage it with the OS-Tools as well, like browsing the HDD in the usual filemanagers.

[@NaokisRC]

NBD support isnt something that comes prebuilt into all the OSes and yes you can add it but that looked more hassle than was worth to just use USB. So, yes but really not much better.

[@tnaplastic2182]

@@NaokisRC Yes, it is not built in natively in many OSs. I was just pointing out, that the info at the timestamp was technically incorrect. :)

[@dragac90]

NOBODY asked you anything

[@tnaplastic2182]

@@dragac90 Were you looking into a mirror whilst writing that comment?

[@dragac90]

@@tnaplastic2182 I did. Learn English bro

[@Garoninja]

Another excellent video.

[@BIGwillTHEGAME]

13:21 I never seen that before.

[@yaniayache5132]

excellent video man i instantly subscribed

[@NaokisRC]

Thank you!

[@denzelkrocker1673]

But how much of an improvement was the fan???

[@DhdhHf-o3m]

I mean, are the cinematic scenes cut off if I use STAT or not?

[@NaokisRC]

They always play with either IDE or SATA

[@behindthescenes7896]

​@@NaokisRC I didn't understand what you meant

[@makaveli7586]

What series is that console? Never seen that kinda internals before and i opened and fixed quite few of them

[@NaokisRC]

SCPH-30003 IIRC. Edit: According to PSDev Wiki this is Chassis C

[@makaveli7586]

@@NaokisRC Thanks for reply i was quite surprised when i saw motherboard that small lol It was first time seeing internals like that so i was quite surprised after years of fiddling with PS2 and OG Xbox i though i seen all of them 😅😂

[@wettuga2762]

When I upgraded my HDD I tried exFAT, but for some reason I couldn't make most games work, so I defaulted back to PFS, added all games through HDL Dumb on the PC, and now use LAN to add/remove individual games. It's slow, but at least I don't have to open up the PS2 every time I do it. I believe the HDD temps inside the PS2 might probably shorten the HDD's life. When Francis Preve's music kicked in, I immediately though "another Retro Bird episode watched"!

[@NaokisRC]

HDD temps arent an issue with an SSD mind! Yeah Ive traded off removing the drive (or more accurately the network card and the drive gets stuck inside), for ExFAT just because it means I dont need to keep a Windows machine to hand just to add games 😅

[@volo870]

What software do you use to upload games to HDD via LAN? I never figured it out and had to disassemble WinXP PC to upload each game.

[@wettuga2762]

@@volo870 At first I used hdl_dump.exe with a batch to install all games to the HDD while directly connected to the PC, now I use hdl_dumb.exe which is a GUI for hdl_dump.exe but only installs one game at a time. The version is rev47, should be pretty easy to find.

[@markiceyy2211]

For me I use the HDLGameInstaller elf on the ps2 and the exe on the PC to transfer the games best of luck!

[@ivangalx1]

0:45 i need this theme, where downloaded? Have a link please? Thanks

[@NaokisRC]

Its called EmotionEngine and is made by skikes if I recall.

[@cemsengul16]

I wish there was a hdd cover that attaches internally. I hate that bump that protrudes outside of the console chassis. You know how the hard disk is mounted internally without overhang on an Xbox Original?

[@NaokisRC]

It’s technically possible but youd need to put all of the electronics that in the adaptor on the inside and theres 60+ wires for it

[@cemsengul16]

@@NaokisRC Yeah I suppose it could be done. I just have bad OCD haha.

[@Kori-ko]

You could probably slim it down severely by pulling the electronics out of the adapter and 3D printing a slim cover. You'd be limited to SSDs though essentially

[@Kristian-hx9tz]

Hey man! I was wondering if you can make a tutorial on your boot menu. How did you make it so oem?

[@NaokisRC]

Just by modifying the config file a bunch to move things around. FMCBs menu config is pretty configurable, if a little hard to follow at first!

[@АнтонКубасов-ъ9й]

Can you take off the dimensions of your cooler mounting part? I want to do the same, I will change the cooler in my ps 2 fat

[@Slickrick2468]

I keep getting a “200 network adapter not detected” code on mine when ever I enable ETH as Auto. Don’t know if it’s my network adapter access point going bad or what.

[@blakedmc1989DDRHD]

tha stock fat PS2 fan never bothered me because i always played my games through a big sound system

[@NaokisRC]

If only I was able to have such a setup!

[@blakedmc1989DDRHD]

@@NaokisRC well i always had sound systems since my 6th grade year however since my senior year in High School, it's when i got 2 15" woofers and it's been like dat ever since

[@brostenen]

When I bought a Ps2 in 2001, I thought it would be awesomme, because I would be able to watch Space Oddisey 2001 on DVD. Oh boy was I wrong. Yes it never bothers you if you play games, but forget DVD on the early pre-50K models.

[@PhirePhlame]

@@blakedmc1989DDRHD I'm just unbothered by fan sounds generally, the exception of course being a laptop in school. I guess having grown up with older louder computers has me used to it.

[@xGMV]

You may know by now, but there's a fork of uLE with exFAT support you can use.

[@NaokisRC]

You would be correct 😉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnvTqXSFobZ0fNE

[@benlane3439]

I notice you have a love for time crisis. Can you use the light gun with a modern tv? I thought it only worked on CRTs

[@NaokisRC]

The original GunCon 1 and 2 only work with CRTs as they require the scanning beam to know where they are pointing. The GunCon 3 uses IR tracking like the Wii remote but only Time Crisis 4 and above recognises this controller. There are 3rd party solutions for using older games on LCD but Im not sure which one works for the console games.

[@ReadyPlayerWoz]

What OPL theme is that? I'd love to use it 👍

[@NaokisRC]

Emotion Engine is think it was called, or something near enough

[@ReadyPlayerWoz]

@@NaokisRC Awesome! I'll have a search around. Thank you 😊

[@NintenDub]

Using the retro bird theme Nice

[@93vincentvalentine]

I bought the MX4SIO with a free mcboot memory card, I heard that when launching a game you had to change your free mcboot memory card for a normal memory card to save your games. Is there a way to have the games save straight to the free mcboot memory to avoid switching out the memory cards all the time? cheers.

[@zackm9910]

Hello I use helders fmcb memory card with mc2sio and I save games on my memory card. Doesn't really effect anything that I've noticed. Just be careful when erasing save data I guess. Other people may be more experienced than me about this though.

[@EarthboundApocalypse]

How well does PS2 games run from i-Link external hard drives on this fat console model ???

[@NaokisRC]

Theoretically only as fast as 400 megabits which in theory could rival the internal hard drive but then overhead might lower that. Plus you would need to use a firewire hard drive which aren’t nearly as common as IDE and USB

[@Zontar82]

cd games are not recognized at all except two. how come? this is with the opl from march, the one you linked didn't even recognized the ssd

[@Mystic-Voyager]

Noctua now makes a 15mm by 60mm fan!

[@NaokisRC]

Time to re-mod then!

[@Mystic-Voyager]

@@NaokisRC 💪🪛

[@iindium49]

I want to try this, I have one and a half ps2. I want to make something portable, i.e. battery screen system. And I think this system might work for repurposing basic E waste that I got for free. The power consumption is the major factor . This will possibly solve that issue.

[@Frakag]

Whats that for an Model? I never see it Europe. Slim Mainboard, no Radiator, big FLEX cable for DVD Drive, Air Mesh/Filter, 10 Srews outside 😮

[@Kevinwoolford123]

I got a 2tb ssd and had nothing but issues with games freezing and not working at all. swapped to a 2tb hdd and everything worked great. Tried the 2tb sandisk and 1tb evo870 both didnt want to run correct. even formatting them in hddmanager it didnt work right so had to do it pc side 😂 with a 2tb hdd its good as gold tho

[@xelvania1581]

@@Kevinwoolford123 I'm running a samsung 1tb 850 evo and while I haven't tested all 88 games yet, I've loaded a handful now and everything is running fine. It is annoying how compatibility seems to be inconsistent with this mod. For all we know, the 870 specifically doesn't work that well while the 860 and 850 do.

[@ΔιονυσηςΠοταμιανος-π6φ]

Am I hearing the retro bird theme song? 🤣

[@wiwingmargahayu6831]

wow and yeah

[@8bitnation419]

SSD's are overkill for old hardware since the speed will never be utilised, a modern HDD is plenty good for older low bus speed hardware. More storage for less. The Noctua fan or any silent fan is a downgrade since it pushes out less air as a result cooling less than the original blower fan. You want to always replace the fan, the fans are usually made from Nidec and new replacements can still be found that sound quieter than the original but also outperforming the Noctua.

[@NaokisRC]

SSDs actually have better random seek times, are instant on, silent… etc. I said this in the video. As to the fan, A: Im not using a noctua, and B: it kicks out the same amount of air as the original fan did at the same speeds, but is still quieter. I didn’t do these things without doing research before hand

[@da0elay]

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[@brostenen]

SSD are still an HDD. SATA SSD are also IDE. And why on earth use SSD in a Ps2, unless you find it impossible to find a spinning PATA hard drive? You will not get any of the SSD advantages on a Ps2. And all it is, are a thing you can brag about.

[@NaokisRC]

There is no spin up time and no extra hard drive noise, both of which were noticeable to me. Plus it means I only need a laptop sata drive to usb adaptor instead of one that also supplies 12 volts.

[@vanderlinde4you]

Access times will destroy a traditional HDD - as many consoles are constantly streaming due to the smaller hardware it is using. Your going from avg 15ms to 0ms which in hefty scenes or lots of loading can actually benefit. Please test yourself, you'll see that SSD's are far better then HDD's. Even if there's UDMA66, in random access the HDD will actually be slower due to it's head having to seek constant around the platter. An SSD does not have that problem. Replacing a notebook's HDD with a SSD will speed up things greatly.

[@brostenen]

@@vanderlinde4you Streaming? A Playstation2 does not have those features. Those were implemented in 8'th gen consoles, not 6'th gen. Of course mechanical harddrives wear down. But not the way you say they will. What you are talking about, is fragmentation, and it is fully software related. Not hardware related. It happens on stuff like Windows, and the specific filesystem in use. If you just copy ISO games to the harddrive one at a time, the fragmentation is not severe. The Ps2 does not do writing. It only does reading, and that will never cause fragmentation of data. The specific harddrive standards you refer to, have nothing to do with fragmentation at all. It is just a set of commands and a theoretical transfer speed. Set of commands be the ATA commands that are baked into the harddrives controller on it. Back in 2007, I installed a HDD and used the first versions of FMCB, as they were released. I used ESR the same week it were first released. And I used an ATA-100 harddrive with HD-Loader. What I experienced, were data loading too fast in some games, making the cutscenes being terminated before they have been played through. When using HD-Loader. It happened on few games. That is the only downside I saw with FMCB and HD-Loader.

[@vanderlinde4you]

@@brostenen Consoles do stream. Perhaps the way is said different but consoles simply on the fly do load in textures or different rooms, scenes or open world all the time. A HDD is slower due to it's access times. A SSD would simply max out the UDMA66 connection it does have. I dont see any downside of using a SSD inside a PS2.

[@brostenen]

@@vanderlinde4you What exactly are you talking about, when writing streamining?