EVO 2013 Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition Top 8 Winners Semi Final: Sako (Ibuki/Evil Ryu) vs Xian (Gen)
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@Conmystro10 жыл бұрын
why is your watermark on a video you had nothing to do with
@erickgonzalez31669 жыл бұрын
You don't own this video, whats with the watermark?!?!?! Thumbs down....
@maddog98100010 жыл бұрын
I have respect for anyone who can main Gen.
@laughfaster111 жыл бұрын
Can't believe a Gen won EVO. Simply amazing.
@r011ing_thunder6 Жыл бұрын
It was disgusting. He's a cheap wonky character
@AdrianCHOY6 ай бұрын
@@r011ing_thunder6he’s not cheap. It takes great skill to play Gen. That’s why you don’t see many Gen players out there. The toggle control is difficult.
@marttini7 Жыл бұрын
Ten years of a masterpiece!
@noslogg11 жыл бұрын
That they do! Xian has always mentions in interviews and especially on Crosscounter Asia that he thinks Sako is a fantastic player and a fun person to watch and play against. Sako is just nice to everyone win or lose. 2 of my favorite SF4 players in one match.
@Fwuuck11 жыл бұрын
Sako wins EVO in my heart. He plays with style, no matter what situation he's put in. If you're going out, might as well do it with style.
@Star-gr4fk Жыл бұрын
sako looked super weak in this match up (xian is really amazing tho) but he will be forever my favorite fighting game player. period
@TrueSephiros11 жыл бұрын
Xian...just simply amazing, he has become one of my top-3 favorite players to watch. That dude is amazing.
@deepstaria38374 жыл бұрын
here in 2020 still gets the blood boiling...
@Gonryoma11 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's the tier, but rather the learning curve it takes to play him. He has really strong 50/50, ambiguous setups on wake-up, and a very strong poking tool with low str. hands. His wake up is limited that doesn't kill the char. I feel he's at least mid tier to upper mid, but the learning curve deters people from playing him.
@funsterkeyven4 ай бұрын
Except we are not talking noobs or casuals. If he is secretly extremely powerful pros who has spent 20x the amount of time studying this game would know better than you or me that it is worth it to gain the amount of money and fame that Xian has. With the added advantage that many players just don't have the experience against a great Gen player.
@june002411 жыл бұрын
I agree. It's because everybody's trying to see how Gen fares with other characters but only those who's used Gen in the right hands would know Gen's a very underrated character
@june002411 жыл бұрын
Nah. He's just delirious. Gen's not really an OP character. In fact, he's a low tier character in that his HP/stun rate isn't the best in the game. Include his limited range and you'll have a hard time trying to use Gen. However, given to the right hands and someone who knows how to use him, Gen is a very strong character.
@ResidentNotEvil511 жыл бұрын
another great match wish them all the best whoever wins.
@Wing0fSilver11 жыл бұрын
Warms my heart to see Ibuki make top 8 even if it's only one match. She'll always be my baby, even if I'm gonna main cammy forever basically now.
@Star-gr4fk Жыл бұрын
lol imagine not playing the whole roster anyways
@Yuriofwind11 жыл бұрын
Ibuki, Evil Ryu, and Xian all in Top 8? That's pretty fucking good. Not to mention Fchamp and ChrisG both lost. Best year in years.
@kurosaki10100000000011 жыл бұрын
Opening : smiling and shaking hands is nice manner. They respect each other.
@deadlysnipe1211 жыл бұрын
Low tier simply means there frequency of use. gen is far from bad, in fact he's possibly one of the most powerful characters in this game, but he's so difficult to use that no one uses him. but it's not surprising that someone finally learned how to use him to his full potential.
@WhiteDeviI11 жыл бұрын
He isn't mid tier. I'm sure if the pros made a new tier list now, after EVO 2013, Gen would be right up there in the top. Tiers are made for a character from their own character potential. If one player blows him up and masters the character to really show their potential, then that can increase their standings in a tier. Tiers are NOT based on what people say about him or the difficulty in using the character. This is what many people wrongly believe that tiers are.
@thejedioutcast8047 ай бұрын
He was high mid tier at best. Most people just didn't know the match up back then, and by most people I mean 99% of people, especially back then when information traveled slowly and netcode sucked. Xian carried the character hard that year, no one worked harder than him in 2013, that's just a fact. He flew to every tournament that year and sweated like a dog, he was my favorite to win that year too, and sure enough he did.
@bahaanaldo11 жыл бұрын
Xian playing Gen with super and ultra is absolutely terrifying in my opinion. It's really suspenseful watching footsies with all those gauges full.
@cpthurme10 жыл бұрын
I just watched Rose Sagat 14' finals and this is so much more fun to watch.. :D
@nO_d3N1AL11 жыл бұрын
Great match. High level and exciting to watch
@budco2911 жыл бұрын
2:09-2:18 awesome
@mamamamfafafaf682711 жыл бұрын
Gen is arguably the hardest character in the GAME to play. And he is low tier aswell. NO ONE plays gen, and the few who does are LIGHTYEARS away from Xians Gen. Xain was the one guy who put Gen on the MAP. Get ure facts straight.. wtf man
@CyberGief11 жыл бұрын
His argument, at the bare minimum, was that Gen is "OP" and "not rare to find". Him bringing up his friend does nothing to strengthen these statements.
@GudsSkyfall11 жыл бұрын
Check the Swedish Ixion for the best Dan. I'm a Swede myself and I have had very good close sets with him. He's considered the best Dan in the world and has beaten Pongkoo.
@INeedHerPomPomJuice11 жыл бұрын
don't forget that training stage is the only stage that does not have external objects moving which can be a distraction to the players ^^
@WhiteDeviI11 жыл бұрын
And a few days late, but: Ladies and gentlemen, a person who doesn't know the meaning of tiers! A round of applause for this brave soul to willingly step up on to the stage as an example to what I was just talking about!
@june002411 жыл бұрын
There was an adage that ignorance makes a man unaware of the danger until it gets to him
@Novaprospectt10 жыл бұрын
it bed nice to watch this and not have commentators stating the obvious....loudly...
@ZettaSonsOfDigits10 жыл бұрын
They are doing such, so people on the stream can understand the gameplay.
@brnmbrns10 жыл бұрын
I don't play SF, but I love watching high level gameplay, so I appreciate them commentating on things I may not understand.
@WhenWordsCollapse11 жыл бұрын
I understand that, but just because someone doesn't know the character fully doesn't justify them saying the character actually is low tier.
@TtopMusic10 жыл бұрын
Xian's eyebrows tho...
@bio0link10 жыл бұрын
THE EYEBROWS OF A MASTA, RESPECT THE BROW.... RESPECT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Btw thats sako not xian :P
@StumblingBlock19 жыл бұрын
BioLink Sako is the one with the headphones.
@lvdjn10 жыл бұрын
Sako = Jackie Chan
@darrent3658 жыл бұрын
lol
@Klips0054 жыл бұрын
Love that Gen and wonder why he didn't use his roll under attacks against the hado...
@James-pb8xu11 жыл бұрын
tier list are ranking potential of the characters at the highest level of play. yea, alot of people dont know exactly whhat it is.
@ShadowErocos11 жыл бұрын
Man that is a great fight!
@SDSOverfiend11 жыл бұрын
Nice Ibuki vs Gen Match up. something different for a change.
@yubbone11 жыл бұрын
Difficulty of operation does play a role in tier placement, just not in some games. When there is a character that is extremely good but must be played in particular play styles with a higher level of perfection demanded than other characters to succeed, that character will likely not be in most people's top. Ranking isn't so black and white; hence why you'll find debates on the topic for virtually every fighting game. The only person convinced of your holier-than-thou-attitude's merit is you.
@SuperCosmicSpaceMagnet11 жыл бұрын
Makes for such a nice change seeing these characters in high level games. If anyone else knows any great games involving Ibuki/Dan/Gen can you please PM me with them?
@MrGhostly1232111 жыл бұрын
The fact that Xian even fought Daigo is worth commendation, after all Daigo just isn't human xD
@charlatanbaby11 жыл бұрын
Notice many of the top players are gimmicky: makoto, gen, seth, hakan and so people don't have much match-up experience with them and that's why they win.
@GudsSkyfall11 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Tokido played made some very dubious stuff in the finals, though; unsafe air fireballs all day long. It was as if he was just goofing around.
@june002411 жыл бұрын
That's because Justin knows Gen. But to the eyes of people who never witnessed Gen, he's really someone they would think as a weak character.
@kobe24lebron23jordan11 жыл бұрын
theyre not playing online... its to have no background distractions and focus completely on gameplay
@glen200311 жыл бұрын
i was hoping for sako at least too coz of his ibuki...
@Imae08I11 жыл бұрын
awesome technical match
@MrRASSBA11 жыл бұрын
I guess Xian's patience breaks Akuma players in half :D
@AdrianCHOY6 ай бұрын
I wanna see Gen introduced soon in SF6
@racbirsingh700511 жыл бұрын
WHERE HAS TEAM BATTLE GONE, IT USED TO BE AWESOME. :)
@murphboys11 жыл бұрын
Yeah i think hes medium low, but winning the biggest tournament of the year without a high tier character is super impressive. if you want really low, T hawk
@TrueSephiros11 жыл бұрын
Gen is not going to be near the top of the crop, Xian just makes him look that way, remember that. Evil Ryu looks top-tier in the hands of Sako but we also know that isn't true either. Gen I would say is around high-tier, their are countless other characters whom are stronger overall then he is, albeit not by drastic numbers, simply due to the fact that AE:2012 is that balanced.
@HittokiriBattousai1711 жыл бұрын
Ommmm yes...you need to master him, yeah.
@Darkmage129311 жыл бұрын
8:10 - Oh Gen. You and all your options.
@MrSneakmind11 жыл бұрын
it was a bet that xian didn't have knowledge of the character and it didn't pay off. Gen players, and especially Xian, have a ton of knowledge on every character so it didn't really matter
@contro2ny11 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a rule from Evo because the Ps3 Version of the game is know to have frame drops like all Capcom Ports
@bmore4nigga11 жыл бұрын
I don't think Gen is necessarily low-tier. He has some good tools but people not knowing the match up does give Xian an edge in the matches. He's not OP but he's not low-tier either.
@june002411 жыл бұрын
Ah! A fellow Filipino! Anyhow... I guess he doesn't know how hard both are, especially for Gen. Gen's zoning capabilities aren't the best in the game. And his poking ability maybe his best asset but it's one asset that's hard to do. So yeah. He's just that frustrated versus Gen.
@BigHern5811 жыл бұрын
What fight stick does sako use?
@CyberGief11 жыл бұрын
Love you too.
@nazeres111 жыл бұрын
can someone tell me why they always play training stage?
@Stalloid11 жыл бұрын
What does "MCZ" stand for? I've seen it a couple of times.
@reversecowboy4 жыл бұрын
I believe it’s their fightstick sponsor Madcatz
@WarlikeSRK11 жыл бұрын
Except Gen is technically very hard and is first and foremost a footsie character. His oga gimmicks are just gimmicks, and the burden is on the opponent to learn the MU not the Gen player.
@GudsSkyfall11 жыл бұрын
Maybe what? Hey, by the way! Not sure if you remember but you sent me a message some years back about how you agreed with my opinion that people that don't make the effort to type properly are disgusting. Cheers to that!
@James-pb8xu11 жыл бұрын
0_o akuma c viper yun feilong SEEEEEETTTHHHHHH. where have you been?
@brunoyama3 ай бұрын
Waterfall kick?? How come? When Gen does this kicks,he is not falling.
@Akuma31er11 жыл бұрын
gens crossup is just deadly
@WhenWordsCollapse11 жыл бұрын
Gen is not low tier. Justin wong even put him as A+, gen is at least top 15 if not top 8.
@CyberGief11 жыл бұрын
Dat logic. "I know someone who uses Gen, so that means everyone uses him."
@bsukoy11 жыл бұрын
i would so believe that but with your profile picture and profile name... im getting 2nd thoughts
@ArepawithCheese11 жыл бұрын
I think it's because there's no distraction. No hippos or kids around the stage haha.
@chunchoe11 жыл бұрын
i donno i think everyone realizing how good gen actually is , i see gens online all the time now after evo
@Nova_mmk11 жыл бұрын
MadCatz
@ChadVarquez11 жыл бұрын
Well that's how he uses Akuma. It's his style.
@MULTIGIGAMAX11 жыл бұрын
terms for tatsu/hadouken esque abilities
@optiklopzzz10 жыл бұрын
What's that combo ibuki is using...
@godzilla01411 жыл бұрын
Isn't it also one player compared to the however many there actually are playing SF?
@ShakeITyEA11 жыл бұрын
in fact his logic is "i know someone who uses gen very well and has a high winrate", as well. so he maybe does have a point, right?
@manhokim110411 жыл бұрын
둘다 정말 잘하네;;
@TheAlmightyVox11 жыл бұрын
Hardly. He's mid-tier at best, and the only way to get anywhere with him is to completely master him.
@ForTrueStory11 жыл бұрын
LOL "fake cross up, im mean REAL cross up" i was gonna say XD
@Geofficino11 жыл бұрын
"psn friends" lmao
@DesertFox112411 жыл бұрын
Nerves probably.
@ElTiranoGamer11 жыл бұрын
Ibuki's a monster, Sako should've kept her.
@DeerBeanMC11 жыл бұрын
If akuma got nerfed a little more, he would be dan...he keeps getting nerfed yet inifiltration and tokido keep topping? Not sure bout ibuki though. Sako seems to top with her cus well..hes sako. Ever thought these people topped cus they have skill? Not cus of their characters?
@BanditXVIII11 жыл бұрын
Um, there is no lag offline from stages. Find me some credible proof of this otherwise.
@WombatKuek11 жыл бұрын
But not so good in the second. He switched to evil ryu cuz his offensive strats with ibuki was failing. Notice how his play with evil ryu is way more defensive than his play with ibuki. You know, its that thing where if you cant beat someone with offensive char like zangief or rufus for eg., then you try going defensive by using dhalsim or guile, for eg. that's what I do at times, when my offense cant beat my opponents defense.
@y2kern11 жыл бұрын
look at infiltration fights, eg infiltration against ryan hart, for most of the fight its an unfair one, not because infiltration is more skilled than ryan hart, its because akuma is uber cheap and infiltration exploits it to the fullest, look at how much times he does over head fireballs, and when that does not work he starts grabbing like no tomorrow. and people talk about him like he is good, its pitiful to see infiltration resort to grabbing. to win. glad xian won evo this year
@ultimatesol10 жыл бұрын
well, Gen is the best character for Ibuki matchups..
@LoryuoFSE11 жыл бұрын
no lag from the stage
@DoubleHenshin8811 жыл бұрын
is this dlc character?
@None-of_your.-_-11 жыл бұрын
RASENGAN!! 2:18
@ultimatesol11 жыл бұрын
thats because Gen has so much ridiculously OP attacks and cheap moveset. thats why xian wins.
@june002411 жыл бұрын
Seriously... You have not tried playing Gen one second dude
@1124625111 жыл бұрын
ur fuking kidding right? every time I play online I never see a gen, I would never think gen could win evo, that's how low tier he is, yet this guy is so good he still wins with him
@user-uv4lx9lf2m6 жыл бұрын
贤5年前比现在精神,可能是发型的原因
@donnk11 жыл бұрын
So many cammies in this tourney, sako is far better off using ibuki----hes the world's best ibuki after all
@MasterJazz0910 жыл бұрын
Why do ppl always say this game is shit and horrible
@1a2d0910 жыл бұрын
You pick up SSTF4AE and play it. Its addicting as fuck and fun to play.
@PokeBattlerJaze10 жыл бұрын
Because haters.
@duckabugfuzzio10 жыл бұрын
Wait really I never heard that befor I think it is fun as shit till someone brings there fight stick
@MrSirCarnage10 жыл бұрын
its not an easy game to play, where other fighters allow you to win from mashing
@saimonlord299510 жыл бұрын
Because they suck shit at it, this is one of the hardest game to execute a combo.
@tonyduong77119 жыл бұрын
It's really funny how the commentators keep calling the Hadouken a fireball...
@deeznutzinyourmouth23795 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@silverchicken2011 жыл бұрын
Why didn't he go with cammy
@MathiasAblazed11 жыл бұрын
Raida, actually.
@y2kern11 жыл бұрын
have you ever played with dan, its not possible for akuma to get as bad as dan. his trip is dead slow, moves take long to come out, fireball is a joke barely makes it to half screen with ex. akuma needs nerfing because apart from having vortex combo's and to much life, he has frame advantage on to much moves, like even a simple foward standing heavy kick has frame advantage. then he cant be cornered because he has raging demon to get out of situations, he is highly unbalanced.