EVO 2K13 SSF4 AE Top 8 Sako (Ibuki/Evil Ryu) vs Xian (Gen) [HD]

EVO 2013 Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition Top 8 Winners Semi Final:
Sako (Ibuki/Evil Ryu) vs Xian (Gen)

[@Conmystro]

why is your watermark on a video you had nothing to do with

[@erickgonzalez3166]

You don't own this video, whats with the watermark?!?!?! Thumbs down....

[@maddog981000]

I have respect for anyone who can main Gen.

[@laughfaster1]

Can't believe a Gen won EVO. Simply amazing.

[@r011ing_thunder6]

It was disgusting. He's a cheap wonky character

[@AdrianCHOY]

@@r011ing_thunder6​​⁠he’s not cheap. It takes great skill to play Gen. That’s why you don’t see many Gen players out there. The toggle control is difficult.

[@marttini7]

Ten years of a masterpiece!

[@noslogg]

That they do! Xian has always mentions in interviews and especially on Crosscounter Asia that he thinks Sako is a fantastic player and a fun person to watch and play against. Sako is just nice to everyone win or lose. 2 of my favorite SF4 players in one match.

[@Fwuuck]

Sako wins EVO in my heart. He plays with style, no matter what situation he's put in. If you're going out, might as well do it with style.

[@Star-gr4fk]

sako looked super weak in this match up (xian is really amazing tho) but he will be forever my favorite fighting game player. period

[@TrueSephiros]

Xian...just simply amazing, he has become one of my top-3 favorite players to watch. That dude is amazing.

[@deepstaria3837]

here in 2020 still gets the blood boiling...

[@Gonryoma]

I don't think it's the tier, but rather the learning curve it takes to play him. He has really strong 50/50, ambiguous setups on wake-up, and a very strong poking tool with low str. hands. His wake up is limited that doesn't kill the char. I feel he's at least mid tier to upper mid, but the learning curve deters people from playing him.

[@funsterkeyven]

Except we are not talking noobs or casuals. If he is secretly extremely powerful pros who has spent 20x the amount of time studying this game would know better than you or me that it is worth it to gain the amount of money and fame that Xian has. With the added advantage that many players just don't have the experience against a great Gen player.

[@june0024]

I agree. It's because everybody's trying to see how Gen fares with other characters but only those who's used Gen in the right hands would know Gen's a very underrated character

[@june0024]

Nah. He's just delirious. Gen's not really an OP character. In fact, he's a low tier character in that his HP/stun rate isn't the best in the game. Include his limited range and you'll have a hard time trying to use Gen. However, given to the right hands and someone who knows how to use him, Gen is a very strong character.

[@ResidentNotEvil5]

another great match wish them all the best whoever wins.

[@Wing0fSilver]

Warms my heart to see Ibuki make top 8 even if it's only one match. She'll always be my baby, even if I'm gonna main cammy forever basically now.

[@Star-gr4fk]

lol imagine not playing the whole roster anyways

[@Yuriofwind]

Ibuki, Evil Ryu, and Xian all in Top 8? That's pretty fucking good. Not to mention Fchamp and ChrisG both lost. Best year in years.

[@kurosaki101000000000]

Opening : smiling and shaking hands is nice manner. They respect each other.

[@deadlysnipe12]

Low tier simply means there frequency of use. gen is far from bad, in fact he's possibly one of the most powerful characters in this game, but he's so difficult to use that no one uses him. but it's not surprising that someone finally learned how to use him to his full potential.

[@WhiteDeviI]

He isn't mid tier. I'm sure if the pros made a new tier list now, after EVO 2013, Gen would be right up there in the top. Tiers are made for a character from their own character potential. If one player blows him up and masters the character to really show their potential, then that can increase their standings in a tier. Tiers are NOT based on what people say about him or the difficulty in using the character. This is what many people wrongly believe that tiers are.

[@thejedioutcast804]

He was high mid tier at best. Most people just didn't know the match up back then, and by most people I mean 99% of people, especially back then when information traveled slowly and netcode sucked. Xian carried the character hard that year, no one worked harder than him in 2013, that's just a fact. He flew to every tournament that year and sweated like a dog, he was my favorite to win that year too, and sure enough he did.

[@bahaanaldo]

Xian playing Gen with super and ultra is absolutely terrifying in my opinion. It's really suspenseful watching footsies with all those gauges full.

[@cpthurme]

I just watched Rose Sagat 14' finals and this is so much more fun to watch.. :D

[@nO_d3N1AL]

Great match. High level and exciting to watch

[@budco29]

2:09-2:18 awesome

[@mamamamfafafaf6827]

Gen is arguably the hardest character in the GAME to play. And he is low tier aswell. NO ONE plays gen, and the few who does are LIGHTYEARS away from Xians Gen. Xain was the one guy who put Gen on the MAP. Get ure facts straight.. wtf man

[@CyberGief]

His argument, at the bare minimum, was that Gen is "OP" and "not rare to find". Him bringing up his friend does nothing to strengthen these statements.

[@GudsSkyfall]

Check the Swedish Ixion for the best Dan. I'm a Swede myself and I have had very good close sets with him. He's considered the best Dan in the world and has beaten Pongkoo.

[@INeedHerPomPomJuice]

don't forget that training stage is the only stage that does not have external objects moving which can be a distraction to the players ^^

[@WhiteDeviI]

And a few days late, but: Ladies and gentlemen, a person who doesn't know the meaning of tiers! A round of applause for this brave soul to willingly step up on to the stage as an example to what I was just talking about!

[@june0024]

There was an adage that ignorance makes a man unaware of the danger until it gets to him

[@Novaprospectt]

it bed nice to watch this and not have commentators stating the obvious....loudly...

[@ZettaSonsOfDigits]

They are doing such, so people on the stream can understand the gameplay.

[@brnmbrns]

I don't play SF, but I love watching high level gameplay, so I appreciate them commentating on things I may not understand.

[@WhenWordsCollapse]

I understand that, but just because someone doesn't know the character fully doesn't justify them saying the character actually is low tier.

[@TtopMusic]

Xian's eyebrows tho...

[@bio0link]

THE EYEBROWS OF A MASTA, RESPECT THE BROW.... RESPECT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Btw thats sako not xian :P

[@StumblingBlock1]

BioLink Sako is the one with the headphones.

[@lvdjn]

Sako = Jackie Chan

[@darrent365]

lol

[@Klips005]

Love that Gen and wonder why he didn't use his roll under attacks against the hado...

[@James-pb8xu]

tier list are ranking potential of the characters at the highest level of play. yea, alot of people dont know exactly whhat it is.

[@ShadowErocos]

Man that is a great fight!

[@SDSOverfiend]

Nice Ibuki vs Gen Match up. something different for a change.

[@yubbone]

Difficulty of operation does play a role in tier placement, just not in some games. When there is a character that is extremely good but must be played in particular play styles with a higher level of perfection demanded than other characters to succeed, that character will likely not be in most people's top. Ranking isn't so black and white; hence why you'll find debates on the topic for virtually every fighting game. The only person convinced of your holier-than-thou-attitude's merit is you.

[@SuperCosmicSpaceMagnet]

Makes for such a nice change seeing these characters in high level games. If anyone else knows any great games involving Ibuki/Dan/Gen can you please PM me with them?

[@MrGhostly12321]

The fact that Xian even fought Daigo is worth commendation, after all Daigo just isn't human xD

[@charlatanbaby]

Notice many of the top players are gimmicky: makoto, gen, seth, hakan and so people don't have much match-up experience with them and that's why they win.

[@GudsSkyfall]

Indeed. Tokido played made some very dubious stuff in the finals, though; unsafe air fireballs all day long. It was as if he was just goofing around.

[@june0024]

That's because Justin knows Gen. But to the eyes of people who never witnessed Gen, he's really someone they would think as a weak character.

[@kobe24lebron23jordan]

theyre not playing online... its to have no background distractions and focus completely on gameplay

[@glen2003]

i was hoping for sako at least too coz of his ibuki...

[@Imae08I]

awesome technical match

[@MrRASSBA]

I guess Xian's patience breaks Akuma players in half :D

[@AdrianCHOY]

I wanna see Gen introduced soon in SF6

[@racbirsingh7005]

WHERE HAS TEAM BATTLE GONE, IT USED TO BE AWESOME. :)

[@murphboys]

Yeah i think hes medium low, but winning the biggest tournament of the year without a high tier character is super impressive. if you want really low, T hawk

[@TrueSephiros]

Gen is not going to be near the top of the crop, Xian just makes him look that way, remember that. Evil Ryu looks top-tier in the hands of Sako but we also know that isn't true either. Gen I would say is around high-tier, their are countless other characters whom are stronger overall then he is, albeit not by drastic numbers, simply due to the fact that AE:2012 is that balanced.

[@HittokiriBattousai17]

Ommmm yes...you need to master him, yeah.

[@Darkmage1293]

8:10 - Oh Gen. You and all your options.

[@MrSneakmind]

it was a bet that xian didn't have knowledge of the character and it didn't pay off. Gen players, and especially Xian, have a ton of knowledge on every character so it didn't really matter

[@contro2ny]

Yeah it's a rule from Evo because the Ps3 Version of the game is know to have frame drops like all Capcom Ports

[@bmore4nigga]

I don't think Gen is necessarily low-tier. He has some good tools but people not knowing the match up does give Xian an edge in the matches. He's not OP but he's not low-tier either.

[@june0024]

Ah! A fellow Filipino! Anyhow... I guess he doesn't know how hard both are, especially for Gen. Gen's zoning capabilities aren't the best in the game. And his poking ability maybe his best asset but it's one asset that's hard to do. So yeah. He's just that frustrated versus Gen.

[@BigHern58]

What fight stick does sako use?

[@CyberGief]

Love you too.

[@nazeres1]

can someone tell me why they always play training stage?

[@Stalloid]

What does "MCZ" stand for? I've seen it a couple of times.

[@reversecowboy]

I believe it’s their fightstick sponsor Madcatz

[@WarlikeSRK]

Except Gen is technically very hard and is first and foremost a footsie character. His oga gimmicks are just gimmicks, and the burden is on the opponent to learn the MU not the Gen player.

[@GudsSkyfall]

Maybe what? Hey, by the way! Not sure if you remember but you sent me a message some years back about how you agreed with my opinion that people that don't make the effort to type properly are disgusting. Cheers to that!

[@James-pb8xu]

0_o akuma c viper yun feilong SEEEEEETTTHHHHHH. where have you been?

[@brunoyama]

Waterfall kick?? How come? When Gen does this kicks,he is not falling.

[@Akuma31er]

gens crossup is just deadly

[@WhenWordsCollapse]

Gen is not low tier. Justin wong even put him as A+, gen is at least top 15 if not top 8.

[@CyberGief]

Dat logic. "I know someone who uses Gen, so that means everyone uses him."

[@bsukoy]

i would so believe that but with your profile picture and profile name... im getting 2nd thoughts

[@ArepawithCheese]

I think it's because there's no distraction. No hippos or kids around the stage haha.

[@chunchoe]

i donno i think everyone realizing how good gen actually is , i see gens online all the time now after evo

[@Nova_mmk]

MadCatz

[@ChadVarquez]

Well that's how he uses Akuma. It's his style.

[@MULTIGIGAMAX]

terms for tatsu/hadouken esque abilities

[@optiklopzzz]

What's that combo ibuki is using...

[@godzilla014]

Isn't it also one player compared to the however many there actually are playing SF?

[@ShakeITyEA]

in fact his logic is "i know someone who uses gen very well and has a high winrate", as well. so he maybe does have a point, right?

[@manhokim1104]

둘다 정말 잘하네;;

[@TheAlmightyVox]

Hardly. He's mid-tier at best, and the only way to get anywhere with him is to completely master him.

[@ForTrueStory]

LOL "fake cross up, im mean REAL cross up" i was gonna say XD

[@Geofficino]

"psn friends" lmao

[@DesertFox1124]

Nerves probably.

[@ElTiranoGamer]

Ibuki's a monster, Sako should've kept her.

[@DeerBeanMC]

If akuma got nerfed a little more, he would be dan...he keeps getting nerfed yet inifiltration and tokido keep topping? Not sure bout ibuki though. Sako seems to top with her cus well..hes sako. Ever thought these people topped cus they have skill? Not cus of their characters?

[@BanditXVIII]

Um, there is no lag offline from stages. Find me some credible proof of this otherwise.

[@WombatKuek]

But not so good in the second. He switched to evil ryu cuz his offensive strats with ibuki was failing. Notice how his play with evil ryu is way more defensive than his play with ibuki. You know, its that thing where if you cant beat someone with offensive char like zangief or rufus for eg., then you try going defensive by using dhalsim or guile, for eg. that's what I do at times, when my offense cant beat my opponents defense.

[@y2kern]

look at infiltration fights, eg infiltration against ryan hart, for most of the fight its an unfair one, not because infiltration is more skilled than ryan hart, its because akuma is uber cheap and infiltration exploits it to the fullest, look at how much times he does over head fireballs, and when that does not work he starts grabbing like no tomorrow. and people talk about him like he is good, its pitiful to see infiltration resort to grabbing. to win. glad xian won evo this year

[@ultimatesol]

well, Gen is the best character for Ibuki matchups..

[@LoryuoFSE]

no lag from the stage

[@DoubleHenshin88]

is this dlc character?

[@None-of_your.-_-]

RASENGAN!! 2:18

[@ultimatesol]

thats because Gen has so much ridiculously OP attacks and cheap moveset. thats why xian wins.

[@june0024]

Seriously... You have not tried playing Gen one second dude

[@11246251]

ur fuking kidding right? every time I play online I never see a gen, I would never think gen could win evo, that's how low tier he is, yet this guy is so good he still wins with him

[@user-uv4lx9lf2m]

贤5年前比现在精神，可能是发型的原因

[@donnk]

So many cammies in this tourney, sako is far better off using ibuki----hes the world's best ibuki after all

[@MasterJazz09]

Why do ppl always say this game is shit and horrible

[@1a2d09]

You pick up SSTF4AE and play it. Its addicting as fuck and fun to play.

[@PokeBattlerJaze]

Because haters.

[@duckabugfuzzio]

Wait really I never heard that befor I think it is fun as shit till someone brings there fight stick

[@MrSirCarnage]

its not an easy game to play, where other fighters allow you to win from mashing

[@saimonlord2995]

Because they suck shit at it, this is one of the hardest game to execute a combo.

[@tonyduong7711]

It's really funny how the commentators keep calling the Hadouken a fireball...

[@deeznutzinyourmouth2379]

Exactly.

[@silverchicken20]

Why didn't he go with cammy

[@MathiasAblazed]

Raida, actually.

[@y2kern]

have you ever played with dan, its not possible for akuma to get as bad as dan. his trip is dead slow, moves take long to come out, fireball is a joke barely makes it to half screen with ex. akuma needs nerfing because apart from having vortex combo's and to much life, he has frame advantage on to much moves, like even a simple foward standing heavy kick has frame advantage. then he cant be cornered because he has raging demon to get out of situations, he is highly unbalanced.