PS5 DualSense VS XBox Series Controller - Which Is Better For Fighting Games?

[@dishaant1413]

This is exactly what I want when seeking for reviews, not fancy lighting and camera angles, just the product up close and thoughts of a human and not a sponsorship- filled script from corporate higher-ups, THANK YOU. Keep this philosophy for your future reviews.

[@HamsterXFiles]

No, wassup Youtub it's yo BOI!

[@rhythmandblues_alibi]

I love how you pointed out how the controller shape affects your wrist alignment. I have wrist and hand issues due to RSI so this was really awesome to hear, thank you.

[@FrameCounting]

Glad to hear. Ergonomics is often ignored in reviews unfortunately...

[@jadenkyler5832]

One of the best reviews I have seen out of countless others on KZbin. So in depth. You earned a sub!

[@FrameCounting]

Thank you my friend! =)

[@14bqdonk]

The most deep, detailed, solid comparison I ever saw.

[@FrameCounting]

Thank you my friend!

[@kevinsims5791]

That was probably the best controller comparison I have seen so far

[@FrameCounting]

Thanks for kind words! 👍

[@Ziyoblader]

I'll just say right away Xbox has this down as it's based off of the Sega Genesis controller which many arcade Street fighter fans use I get that Sony was going for a more cleaner look with a spread out d-pad but not having that up and down left diagonal option really makes it hard to do combos unless you have big thumbs

[@penatio]

Actually, Sony implemented this type of a dpad to avoid paying royalties to Nintendo (who held a patent for a plus style dpad at the time).

[@banjokazuya2913]

Yo I clicked the video looking for simply a controller comparison yet I'm experiencing the most elaborate controller ASMR ever. Great vid, I think I'll go with the Xbox controller because the analog sticks and the overall ergonomy is superior to the PS5 pad.

[@FrameCounting]

Lol, if you need more controller ASMR fix watch my other vids.

[@verrat3219]

the word you are looking for is "mushy" to describe ps5 buttons.

[@notusingthis600]

watch the entire video before commenting

[@Shadowsmoke11]

The Dualsense controller is just complete trash for me personally. The D-pad especially is a big downgrade for playing fighting games in my opinion. The old Dualshock 3 were awesome and Dualshock 4 D-pad was decent, but the DualSense is no good for me. I am getting a Xbox series X controller alongside an wireless adapter for lowest input lag. Mirosoft really outdid themselves when it comes to the D-pad so far. Your videos are great by the way!

[@FrameCounting]

Completely agreed!

[@mrxcs]

No hype or hate, just information, nice to see.

[@RmnGnzlz]

I never thought I was ever going to find something I like more for fighting games on a small controller (sticks and hit boxes not included) than the neo geo pocket clicky joystick but the one x controller won me over, this dpad is good. I've only used to for SF IV and Samurai Shodown but I'm sold on it being better than the dualsense and 8bitdo ones.

[@casedistorted]

I had a Neo Geo Pocket Color as well. I miss that weird thumb stick it came with. I lost all my games though but still own a camo blue one

[@benjamindavid6873]

This is the go to review and comparison. Great job.

[@FrameCounting]

Thank you my friend!

[@rafecd4935]

@@FrameCounting we need kong

[@damianalexander]

The position of the dpad analog stick is purely preference. I mainly play fighting games and I personally think the position of the dpad on the xbox controller is way more natural than the ds5. I really dislike the position of the ds5 dpad as well as the whole dpad in general. The only thing I like about the ds5 is that it’s a lot more quiet. I got used to the ds5 but I feel like if sony simply created a dpad with 4 individual buttons, rather than one solid piece, then it would be much better.

[@jovan.fitilj8491]

I played a lot of Mortal Kombat on my PS5 controller and it always felt like a struggle inputing directional inputs on the d-pad. Unfortunately the d-pad broke for me, probably has something to do with the rubber peace on the inside. I am outright considering just getting an xbox controller

[@doink2609]

nice was looking for a honest review ty for the time and patients you put into this video it helped alote

[@kgeo2686]

I like the dpad position of the on the Xbox control more. Following your "wrist alignment" comment , because of controller shape, the position of the pad actually causes my thumb to be in an opened up position, opposed to being contracted towards my hand using the ps5 controller. As far as thumb pain, just get that guitar finger callus! Also the click in the pad has literarily helped me get through some really hard combos. It’s amazing

[@FrameCounting]

Great point! I’m starting to lean towards your opinion too.

[@Enlightmentism]

Thanks for your honest comparison

[@AH20XX]

I love my X but the dpad is horrible for fighting games

[@osricen]

Great video! If we talk FIGHTING GAMES only, especially 2D and competitive: XBOX ONE SERIES X controller is the way to go. I had one for 3 years and sold it a couple of weeks ago. It's worth mentioning also that I used the thumb sticks A LOT and ZERO DRIFTING. The only problem I had was changing AA batteries too often and turning off rumble in other games to save some energy (making the controller feel "lifeless" in my hands). That said: the LB and RB buttons are too easy to break and once that happens, you better fix it by changing the whole piece (which is all the top plastic thing that includes LB, RB, and the middle). Now I have the DualSense controller and I can confirm it's way harder to get used to for 2D fighting games and a total risk if you're playing competitively. Tekken (a slower and complex 3D fighter) feels perfect... but MAN, I miss the clicky feedback when playing Guilty Gear! 1 of 10 times I'll miss a back-back, forward-forward or circle motion special moves. The D-Pad is a pain... but I guess it's a matter of practice and you can always use the left thumb stick for those commands. Talking about thumb sticks: they're the same. Only the rubber crowns are different and the DualSense ones feel...cheaper. Not enough time to talk about durability, though, but hopefully it lasts for long. P.S. For other games that support DualSense features... of course there's no comparison. Playing Signalis on Steam with full features is a whole more immersive experience with the DualSense. Also, having a pretty decent built-in battery makes me very happy.

[@rando8831]

Great review, and your voice is very soothing lol

[@FrameCounting]

Thank you my friend!

[@coxxycabee]

In regards to primary input, I think that usage should be taken into consideration. It feels far more comfortable using a stick in the secondary input area (eg Sony) opposed to a d-pad (eg Microsoft). With that in mind I think that Sony produces a better balanced controller which is generally more comfortable to use more people, alas as you pointed out when discussing the d-pad, Sony's d-pad is vastly inferior to Microsoft's. My dream controller is an Xbox controller with a Sony layout. Great in-depth comparison mate. It was very detailed and you covered a lot of points that i'd never seen before such as the wrist angle. It's about time someone discuss this. Loved the video man. A++

[@FrameCounting]

Thanks bud!

[@JordnD]

Same I perfer the d-pad to be in the primary position since it's kinda akward to use it the secondary position. I don't mind the sticks being in the secondary position since they are raised up and easier to reach in the secondary position compaired to the d-pad. I also perfer the shape and pivot of the Series X d-pad

[@Stryfe52]

Yeah, I think the PlayStation controller is overall better(And I’ve been an Xbox fan my entire life lol), but their triggers are bad for FPS games, and I prefer the feel Xbox’s analog sticks(Sony’s positioning is great though). Though, PS5 controller looks like it tried to copy the Nintendo Pro controller(Those very broad sides where your palm would rest) and I just hate that. They should’ve stuck to their guns with the old PlayStation controllers’ comfortability.

[@videogameobsession]

@@Stryfe52 Actually Sony was copying.... themselves. :P Check out the original pre-DualShock PlayStation dual analogy controller. It has the long, broad handles, and inverted thumb pads. It was one of the best for the time, and I'm glad they finally went back to this so many years later.

[@casedistorted]

Yeah I think it is just preference. I like the layout of Xbox controllers more but the quality feels worse than the Sony controllers. I grew up with PS1 with no thumb sticks so I got used to the N64 and PS1 joystick positions first over the Xbox controllers

[@vaultbreak5329]

Finally controller review that actually matters instead of those that focus too much on haptic feedback gimmick bs

[@FrameCounting]

Thanks bud!

[@musicimpact7120]

Except that it's not bullshit. When you try it it'll blow you away.

[@Tony_zr]

@@musicimpact7120 meh it’s nothing special I’ve tried it people will forget about it in a couple of years it lowkey ruins your Gaming experience

[@belphegor_dev]

Haptic feedback is not BS. I always use my dualsense for games that support haptics and adaptive triggers.

[@amalek.92]

Most thorough and honest review I’ve seen on the two controllers. Tremendous.

[@iitzfizz]

Very good break down I've subbed already and the video is only half way through! I just got a DualSense to use on PC to replace my old Series S/X controller. I just wanted to switch it up a bit. I love the way the DualSense looks and feels in the hand and it's more comfortable but I prefer the tactility of the buttons on the Xbox controller, the DualSense buttons (esp. the D-Pad) feel a bit mushy in comparison. Both controllers are great though! I got the Cosmic Red one.

[@c1ownh4rd]

Don't throw away your X pad. Here is why: I might be a little late here, tho I feel like leaving a thought anyways: I started tekken since ps2 and never used xbox controller for fighting games. Here I am now on Series X, and I really don't understand all the hate about the X controller, I main Steve, I dived deeper into it, learned shiro combo on it, flicker cancel ws, korean backdash. I think after a week I thought to myself that it never felt so responsive before. It's just that you learn this dpad differently and when you catch the trick of it you really begin to appreciate it. For example: I'm a thumb player, so due to the fact that dpad is much closer to 1234 I was able to learn doublethumb guttling gun on steve, it was almost impossible on the dualshock Another thing is about korean backdash: I never press down actually, I place my thumb on the edge of Back and press it diagonally, you can't do that on ds pad, same thing for flicker cancel. I figured that my thumb actually moves less like 80% compared to DS controller. Another great thing is the curving of X dpad into the center, so back to forward or viceversa is an instant input for me as I just slide my thumb to slam the oposite side at lightning speed. (common thing on Steve with CC or intoflicker f3 or f4) There are so many tricks to this responsive masterpiece tech, just gotta give it some practice. Overall this comment is for everyone that reads these comments and thinks that X is trash, well it's not guys, give it some time and you'll love it. P.S. I'm not a Tekken god, tho I deffinitely see the advantages.

[@cortes8289]

I agree with everything but the xbox series x d pad is a little too loud for me.

[@FrameCounting]

I wish it was quieter as well. It's the loudest dpad in the history of dpads. Lol

[@Aclipso]

I've had an xbox for a long time and usually thought xbox made better controllers but as soon as I saw the ps5 controller I knew I would like it more

[@VSTanatos]

Great review) I prefer Xbox - mechanical d-pad must be best solution. Also for me, I think, it's more sturdy, when i squeeze pad in hands. I damaged DS4 pretty fast) You can test sticks precision in DOA6 photo mode - when you move just a little stick - good stick will move camera just a little too. Bad stick will have bigger movement step. For example, Logitech F310 has way worse stick compared to DS4.

[@eugene4144]

alexander pierre I know this has nothing to do with controllers I played on PlayStation and it just doesn't feel the same as Xbox for Xbox it's easier to ignore a hate message or a voice message like when someone cusses you out in a party I don't take it seriously and it's a really good user experience where as the PlayStation it's like I feel bothered whenever people send me hate messages and it's just depressing and the user experience is bad and I personally don't like the straight analogue sticks but this is just my opinion if you prefer PlayStation go ahead and play it.

[@VSTanatos]

@@eugene4144 Well, Steam is best in this regard - nobody can send anything to you until he is not your friend.

[@eugene4144]

alexander pierre that's nice hope you have fun (:

[@eugene4144]

Also I think the xbox share feature should allow you to share 1 hour clips if I haven't said that already and they should definitely have a mic button but those are the only complaints I have the rest is perfect

[@fathertaira]

i use my playstation controller for everything BUT fighting games. D-Pad will always be more precise and consistent for your inputs. The D-Pad on the series controller is just infinitely better than the ps controller in basically every way imaginable so there's almost no contest that you should use it for fighting games.

[@AtomLabX]

This is Awesome, and be thing to note. The white color feels more fancy - get the white Xbox controller and you’ll see it’s better feel to touch and quality over the black. It always been like that with Xbox for some reason. For fighting games the Xbox controller is better, the new D PaD it’s so good - it almost feels like cheating because it’s very hard to miss an input - Which is great!

[@truegamer_007]

I guess it's a difference of the dye used to colour the plastics. The white plastic is probably just bleached to be pure white with a little dye thrown in (undyed plastic is usually off white). The black controller's plastic is probably mixed with dye so it changes the feel.

[@armorking481]

White gets dirty in no time. So it sucks. Black is much better

[@Korzak86]

I've been playing MK11 on the PS5 and I find that the d-pad buttons get "sticky" when warm. It's harder to do combos like Back/Left or Right by gliding my thumb over it, and eventually my thumb starts to hurt/burn from the rubbing. Whereas on my Elite series 2 controller the d-pad is soft and my thumb just glides over it, making it much easier to pull off some moves. Also doesn't hurt overtime .. I'll be skipping fighting games on my PS5 from now on for sure.

[@FrameCounting]

You nailed it!

[@ayres1009]

I don't see how. I played DragonBall fighterz using the D pad on the Xbox series X and the PS5. I have a lot of missed inputs using the Xbox controller and land the harder and longer combos on the PS5 controller with ease.

[@uppercutgrandma4425]

​@@ayres1009that could have alot to do with the positioning of the dpads. But, the ps5 dpad is great for precision since the buttons are segregated but, soft

[@ayres1009]

@@uppercutgrandma4425 everything you said was right except the buttons are not segregated on the PS5 pad. It’s one solid piece with a pivot point.

[@tvhuynh02]

Thanks for this video! Really appreciate your work

[@gokublacktekken6166]

I ordered an Xbox Series controller. I hope it lasts more than the Xbox One controller. I play Tekken and the Xbox One controller d-pad usually lasts around 4 months.

[@jeje325]

That’s my issue too, most disturbing inputs belongs to the supposedly most frequent ones i use, d/b and d/f :( Going to get the x series one tomorrow

[@LeBaldJames23-]

I have been play tekken7 for like 3 years on the same controller and my dpad is till workin normally

[@Y2Jay99]

PS5 for 2D, fighting games, 3rd person, xbox for shooters and racing games. Both for sports and rpg

[@jonathaningram8157]

Very throughout video. I had the Xbox elite controller and was quite disappointed with the xsx because it's much noisier and don't feel like an improvement at all. On the otherhand Sony like you said feels exciting and I like quiet but what you said about main input control is totally true. The stick in the Xbox are more suited for 3d games. I'm also concerned about reliability on the ps5 controller. My ps4 controller got bad really fast.

[@kevinsims5791]

Yeah people get really trigger happy and press fast or really hard so I see the components in the triggers not lasting long. Also when you set the controller down on its back the weight of the controller rests on its triggers and handles. Over time that constant weight on the triggers could be bad for the triggers as well.

[@blazesapphire58]

Finally! A review/comparison video that Actually feels like a full detail review/comparison! I feel safe knowing upgrading from a Xbox One controller to a Series X controller is really good idea! Specially if the thumb stick are much better! Keep up the great work and thank you!

[@doomjazzer3890]

Really good video, well done. You could have also mentioned the spacing between the buttons on each controller. The PS buttons are further apart than Xbox, which is interesting.

[@FrameCounting]

Good call!

[@Urakarenn]

I want to play fighting game these days, I guess I have to change my tribe from PS user to XBox user. It seems Playstation doesn't really catter fighting gamers, that D-Pad is a no no (that internal component is still the same sh*t since PS1). And I don't really care about haptic feedback.

[@juanpablosilvestre7870]

I think what you said about the PS Joystick being built having 2d games in mind answers the question about which one is better for fighting gaming. But obviously personal preference is a big factor

[@glaucioakira8936]

2d games in mind is different from fighting games in mind. Still the Series S controller is better.

[@ruth4831]

love the way you describe them

[@marmitaa8619]

Only problem i have is that the d pad is under the analog stick. The ps5 looks much more comfortable if you use only the dpad.

[@FrameCounting]

Agreed

[@fastlikeabearfitness5422]

I can't play fighting games on any Sony D-pad outside of the PS Vita. Xbox 360 and Xbox Series have a better D-Pad, like the Sega Saturn

[@aspirant7713]

which controller is the best for The King of Fighter game?

[@SamiPuma]

I agree The ps5 controller's face buttons feels mushy for me for responsiveness, I haven't tried the Series controller but I use my Xbox One S controller for fighting games and it feels much better and clickier. It's not a huge deal, but the Xbox controller's face buttons are bigger and more pronounced, it sticks out further and has a louder click/tap sound compared to the PS5 controller; I have smaller thumbs, it's much easier to cover and press two buttons at once (for light+medium button presses) and feel the responsiveness of the input. But the PS5 controller is also SUPER quiet, even the clacking of your thumbstick is way less quiet than the xbox controller (that thing goes CLACK CLACK) so at night, I always switch to my PS5 controller.

[@jeanschyso]

So yet again neither's going to do it for me. Can't have the Dpad in a comfortable place AND have it be clicky.

[@FrameCounting]

Lol, I know right? Hopefully the new Fighting Commander will be the one (fingers crossed).

[@jeanschyso]

@@FrameCounting You're talking about the Octo correct? I've been looking for a release date almost weekly since 2 months ago. The price itself is very low for a controller with this much hype behind it

[@FrameCounting]

@@jeanschyso Yes, I don't think it'll be out until 2021. But you are right to have tempered expectations for it. I'm hopeful it will be good.

[@MarooTK]

@@FrameCounting Same here. if its bad, I guess I will need to stock on the old Fight Commander for my next gen fighting game needs. It really serves me well in Tekken so far.

[@TakumiBunta86]

To me I always prefer the PlayStation controllers best for fighting games & sports. I prefer the Xbox Box 🎮controllers usually for 1st person shooters like Halo & Call of Duty games. Btw great comparison review, tnx!

[@YouTuberr285]

The PlayStation 4 controller is great. The ps5 controller is absolutely horrible

[@ShivaM-dc4xe]

@@KZbinrr285 which of the ds4 and xbox series x|s is better for fighters ? I have never used an asymetrical controller before (duno is ns4 counts)

[@markusheinel2239]

Fantastic review of both controllers! Very clear

[@hezekiiahtv]

Amazing video brother just may have saved me some money 🤘🏾🔥🔥

[@FrameCounting]

No problem 👍

[@quillanhall4771]

Thanks for doing this I appreciate it

[@chinogambino9375]

I sold my PS5 partly because I hate the Dualsense, the dpad is so bad compared to the DS4. You'd think they are exactly the same but I can reliably land inputs in Tekken 7 on DS4 but they drop on DSense. They did something stupid, the glossy material, the fact the surface is curved because I found no way to get consistent with it. I'm not a stick player but I can adapt when given one, the DSense though is hopeless. It such a slap in the face we can't use DS4 on PS5 games, the solution is right in my hands but eventually I'll be forced to use DSense because Sony is irrationally greedy. So I've dumped Playstation this gen.

[@FrameCounting]

Agreed! Check out my DualSense long term review to see why combos are constantly dropped if you are curious.

[@epicon6]

5:36 i agree that it’s a better placement to have the joystick at the primary location, but i play so many retro games i love PlayStation controllers for that. I play on PC so i mainly play on Series and Elite 2 controllers but would love a modern PlayStation controller for my retro games but sadly i don’t like the design of the PS5 controller, so i’m really hoping the PS6 controller will be the ultimate PS controller and that the d-pad will still be at the primary location then.

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

The best PS5 and Xbox Series X/S controllers are the high-quality PS5 and the Xbox Series X/S arcade stick controllers and the third-party PS5 and Xbox Series X/S fight pad controllers.

[@hayvanejones8791]

Thumbstick tention is the best for me so I like them way more on ps5 but Ergonomic xbox is King for every Hand size out there.

[@FrameCounting]

Agreed!

[@mronex4995]

This is THE BEST review I've ever watched for controllers

[@chuckyluvsu13]

Great video, I personally go with the XboX controller as well

[@rafaelguerra9608]

I have a new born so I had to buy a ps5 control since im playing the hell outa Mortal Kombat 1 on my pc. Makes no noise. Starlight blue looks amazing

[@vibeseazon5449]

Love this video comparison but those who recognize his background music are the real champs 😂😂😂

[@nhlfan1001]

The Xbox controllers buttons are also closer together which I find makes things easier when trying to hit multiple buttons simultaneously

[@scott-88]

Great vid thanks. Looking to get some new Series controllers and upgrade my docking station as well. Currently using the old bluetooth Xbox One controller. I like the old dpad for retro games, it's clicky, but not too stiff. Hoping this new one improves upon it, or is as good. Just from what I've seen, it is really loud... Need to test one before I buy I think.

[@epicon6]

I think the Series controller looks and feels more high end. The basic black one isn’t that nice though. I have 4 different special edition ones and each of them has a different feel and finish on them and they all look and feel really great, and all of them also have the rubberized grips on the back, and some of them have dpads and triggers made of metal too.

[@jessedeeds756]

I’m personally not a fan of the Xbox series x D pad. I play mortal kombat x and it is really slow and a hindrance from my experience. Makes run cancels more difficult then they need to be. I can best explain it as the d pad being too clicky. It just doesn’t respond quick enough for fast inputs. But that might just be my hands.

[@FrameCounting]

Best thing to do is try both to see which one works better for you. There still isn't a perfect fightpad yet to this date.

[@Arixade]

Thanks for making a comparison!

[@ledique6945]

I agree with you its unnecessarily large and the new buttons arent as good. Whole controller needs alot of improvement imo

[@FrameCounting]

Hopefully Sony will do a Pro Controller like MS and fix the issues currently on the DualSense.

[@ledique6945]

@@FrameCounting If they do, I dont think it will be anytime soon at all unfortunately. They are currently more occupied with supplying more Ps5s to meet demand.

[@skwadboss]

a quiet controller!? im getting it

[@epicon6]

DualSense d-pad is made of 100 year old door hinges because it creaks and squeeks so hard

[@FrameCounting]

lol

[@unotir7109]

Lol

[@Kaimerah]

Biggest issue with the ps5 controller is the rounded edges. I can ignore it after some play but fuck man I miss the DualShock form factor in terms of PlayStation controllers

[@epicon6]

9:05 it’s not the spacing but the profile is much lower than it’s ever been so your fingers are hitting the surface of the controller making it harder to use the dpad. On every ps5 controller the controller surface is worn and shiny between the directions that wasn’t the case with any previous PS controller

[@heromedley]

playstation dpads are so mushy i cant play with it for too long im gonna lose my mind

[@FrameCounting]

Agreed. It’s hard to have a feel with the PS5 dpad.

[@cloud4an]

What's the song at the beginning? It sounds very familiar, but I can't place it. Is it in FFXIV?

[@FrameCounting]

It does sound like FF doesn't it? It's actually just one of those free music YT provides for videos. I forgot what the name was though.

[@gary6133]

No idea how I got here. Glad I did tho!

[@sonicbatfoxs9376]

Thanks ..what do u think beetter in matter of precision of dpad... Xseries dpad or the old xbone dpad ??...I hit the like button ...I was waiting for this ...good job man

[@awei9849]

If you wanna play fighting games, xbone d pad is the least d pad you'd want

[@slackin8029]

Do you know how you could mod your ps5 controller to have a better dpad?

[@KisaneFR]

Hello, can you make a review on the Flydigi Vader 3 ? It looks just like the x-series controller, but with two extra buttons.

[@trollinggamer6915]

I’m not biased I have both consoles but tbh I’ll admit the ps5 controller looks sexy but the feeling of dual shock 5 just feels too hard in the hands and so big now I don’t like the feeling in my hands the controller been making me play Xbox now

[@FrameCounting]

Agreed!

[@YUQI____]

great vid ty

[@Costinmusca]

I wouldn't ever be able to decide for one over the other, there's always going to be flaws in each of them that I cannot get over and then there's the layout digital/analog primary movement method (D-Pad/L-Analog) which simply makes them both useful in different scenarios.. If I want to emulate some old games, I'll take the PS style (D-Pad for main movement input) otherwise, I'll take the XB style (L-Analog for main movement) and that's not negotiable.. Other than that I absolutely hate and will always hate every single D-Pad iteration XBOX ever had.. the stupid metal domes that they're using and/or (depending on implementation) the way their D-Pads are pivoting on the central nub is.. well, it has nothing to do with a directional input thought out design.. it's simply there to navigate menus and that's it.. (it is obvious to me that the D-Pads on the XB platform are only there as navigational inputs and weapon selection in games) My "perfect" controller would likely be a mix between the two and with the interchangeable D-Pad L-Analog (like on some old Saitek Cyborg gamepads) It would have the XB overall shape, maybe even more close to the XB360 size wise at least, a PS style D-Pad, absolutely no stupid clicky metal dome switches and would have 2 back paddles instead of L3/R3 LS/RS (of course the analog sticks will no longer have that functionality - just like on the old GameCube Controllers.. reason being that clicking in on a flimsy designed stick while applying directional input at the same time is practically asking for the thing to break.. which, of course it does - also it is stupidly unwieldy and cramp inducing, just a retarded design idea) For the rumble I'll also take a mix of regular "Dual-Shock" rumble (2 motors - 1 heavy / 1 small) and the adaptive triggers from the DualSense (the haptic feedback in the DualSense is stupid to no end and a proper implementation would take too much weight and battery drainage / the impulse triggers on the XB1 are also mighty stupid and give the user no practical feedback) Oh maybe I'd take some heavy mouse switches (~150g green dot I believe) for the bumpers.. and while on the subject, I'd probably take the XB360 bumpers and the XB wireless speed wheel triggers shape and placement. Well and if I'm allowed to dream further, I'd like to finally see that Right Analog Stick GONE! Once and for all eternity! GONE! Just put a fucking trackball instead.. FFS!.. I know about all the stupid abortions that were sad implementations in the past, but that's all they were, sad fucking implementation, poorly designed.. There can be a proper trackball implementation on a controller.. it's not that hard.. it almost has been done by indie amateurs.. Nvidia, I know that patent that you've snug under your domain.. just make it happen already.. Ah, nearly forgot.. how could I.. DOMED Analog Sticks.. CONVEX, NOT CONCAVE.. it's a pivoting design, not a sliding design like on some portable consoles.. the stupid sticks are pivoting.. and one's thumb would "roll" on top of them.. (not hold it by the edge) pff.. I swear some people simply won't take bio-mechanics and ergonomics or optimization for anything but buzz words.. just because we're adaptable like that and "well, we've got used like this, or.. I can still do it like this very effectively".. (oh, mother of facepalms.. )

[@FrameCounting]

I’d totally buy your controller! =)

[@RitzyBusiness]

The 8bitdo controller has the same focus, and same rubber domes design as the dualsense but does it 1000x better. The 8bitdo controller is extremely tactile. The analog stick is, ok, but not noticeably worst than the dual sense. And their latest revision beats the dualsense in features that matter. The dualsense is only awesome if you own a ps5. I think the ds4 is a more comfortable controller and better for playing games. I really like the dualsense rumble, even in switch and pc games. Its nuanced, it feels good. But I get a controller for good inputs, not immersion.

[@FrameCounting]

Which 8bitdo controller are you referring to? I’d love to get a hold of one.

[@RitzyBusiness]

@@FrameCounting I have the pro+ but they just released the pro 2 which even has buttons on the back of the controller while retaining the same everything else. I got the gameboy color cause the texture on the dpad is nicer. I play a lot of platformers, I usually use a keyboard for fighters but I found it easier to be consistent with the 8bitdo pad, dual sense is too mushy and xbox is too exact if that makes any sense.

[@FrameCounting]

Nice! Just placed an order for the pro 2.

[@2bussy]

8bitdo controllers are trash, they have a shitload of input lag. this has been tested before and the results can be found on the MiSTer input lag pdf.

[@helloguy8934]

@@2bussy Use it while wired. Frame control has no problem with that.

[@ayres1009]

I like both controllers but the D pad for fighting games is absolutely terrible on the Xbox controller. It's very easy to have missed inputs.

[@FrameCounting]

I've had the opposite experience with the DualSense and Xbox Series controllers. The PS4 controller however worked very well for me.

[@ayres1009]

@@FrameCounting I bought the same fighting games for both systems to test them side by side and the dualaense D pad is a lot better in my opinion. The Xbox controller drops too many combos for me.

[@Kareemisag]

People who use analog are freaks. But fr I've always prefer the playstation controller when it comes to fighting games. I remember struggling to play sf with the Xbox 360 controller, I know they were trying to get an analog feel with the dpad but it didn't work for me. The Xbox one controller was also a pain for me. I wasn't efficient with the dpad and the razor sharp edges hurt my thumbs overtime. But this time I have hope for the new Xbox controller, the new dpad looks like it was made for me.

[@sundragonbro2080]

u should do asmr fr

[@FrameCounting]

ASMR about controllers sounds like a perfect match! Lol

[@blanketmobbypants]

I remember having a debate with a guy years back about the PS4 and Xbox controller. I was right cause you literally said what I said. The Xbox has clicks like a keyboard. I was in defense mode for Sony but right.

[@xenosuki]

I'm having trouble with qcf motions on xbox pad but I like the tactileness. Hope I can get better with it cuz pads seem the best option for my wrist health.

[@ristuksenvittu]

I love playing games that "require" you to play on dpad for the best results, that is why i think the ps controller is better, but if i played shooters on a console and not on pc, i'd go with the xbox.

[@nurannahadiislam7940]

Can I use the joysticks to play fighting games? I feel like the circular motions would be much easier

[@FrameCounting]

I do that for full circles.

[@user-eu5ol7mx8y]

Is the dish-shaped D-pad on the Xbox Seriex X controller better than the one from Xbox One?

[@FrameCounting]

I prefer the Series controllers because it's lighter to press and more tactile.

[@musicimpact7120]

That analog stick logic is pretty dumb honestly. So you're saying that fps games don't priorities the thumbsticks because they are at the bottom? Of course not. The right thumb stick stays at the bottom because it allows for more free control of the thumbsticks for finer aiming. It's less comfortable but more presise. Which is why the left thumbstick on the PS5 controller will feel like you have better control.

[@Dirt33breaks]

You should do ASMR videos! Had tingles listening to this review lol! Great Comparison!

[@FrameCounting]

I've been told that before. Lol. If you need your ASMR fix check out my other videos. =)

[@casedistorted]

Good review, but feels one sided in preference to Xbox controllers.

[@Medess_stuick]

What a great Video. 😊

[@scottwhibley8392]

If only we could combine the ergonomic of the Xbox and the features of the PlayStation

[@FrameCounting]

I’m so down for that!

[@TheA732]

I thought it was just me going crazy trying to consistently do down back inputs on the ps5 d-pad, that space inbetween is so awkward for me

[@knowtruth847]

Any marvel players know if the Xbox d pad is good?

[@FrameCounting]

In my opinion, the xbox series dpad is one of the best on any controllers I've owned. And I've owned a lot.

[@TERRORBOGARD77]

For fighting games: ds5 d pad winner

[@zigzagphx4535]

I disagree, I have both systems and the xbox dpad is simply designed better. You'll encounter more input errors on the ps5 dpad.

[@BamiCodm]

lol ps4 has the same dpad layout as ps5

[@zigzagphx4535]

@@BamiCodm I never owned a ps4 so I wouldn't know. But, I know for experience that xbox's dpad is better in my opinion.

[@TheBlackBossalini305]

@@zigzagphx4535 PS4 dpad is trash, clunky and not durable. I’m going to try the Xbox controller on PC though.

[@nadimmahmud5064]

I am new to the gaming world and i cant play tekken or like mortal combat x with my keyboard . I dont know about controllers that much .. your video was so informative . But i have a question . I want to play tekken 7 or that type of games with controller , like only dual fight games . Can you suggest me which one would be better for only that type ???

[@FrameCounting]

Both are good. But I prefer the Xbox Series controllers due to the tactile feel and ergonomics.

[@nadimmahmud5064]

@@FrameCounting thank you man .. ❤

[@martosraynierideljesus7454]

I love Xbox Controller. Could you please make more videos about Xbox?

[@angelogiovanni1590]

are the dpads mechanical or tactile?

[@FrameCounting]

This is addressed in the video.

[@kiingizzyy]

The only problem I have with the dual sense controller is the joysticks they just aren’t good if they took the Xbox joysticks I would definitely love the controller more

[@jr1364]

My right thumb is shorter than my left thumb. I can fit the ps5 controller in my hands. Will the xbox controller be too large for my hands or no? Are the controllers roughly the same size? Nice video💚.

[@FrameCounting]

Xbox controller is smaller than the DualSense.

[@jr1364]

@@FrameCounting okay thank 🤗

[@isaacgomez2982]

Yeah but only the serios x but the one s the duelsence controller have the same size as the one s controller

[@isaacgomez2982]

Different is dpad

[@isaacgomez2982]

And analog

[@RovexHD]

The Dualsense is really big for my skinny small hands. The DualShock 4 was better in that sense.

[@benbrady2636]

Anyone else drop inputs with the PS4 controller while playing mk11 I don't have any issues with Xbox x controller.

[@jinnaboy]

dude you should consider going ASMR, thats a compliment

[@FrameCounting]

Lol, thanks bud. This was one of my earlier videos so I was nervous and didn’t want other people to hear me recording a KZbin video. So I whispered the entire thing.