PS5 Pro Review From IGN - Luke Reacts

[@Sillysillylittleman]

This should come with a duel sense edge honestly for the price

[@tiednormal02]

Then it would’ve been a $999 console

[@heineslederio8466]

If they added 24 months PlayStation Plus Premium then people would feel better at the $700 price. I know, I know it's a dream 😅

[@reignmans]

@@tiednormal02 which coincidentally will be the price for ps6

[@Dryde85]

nope.

[@RHQ7]

it doesn't even have the disc drive, i think you're asking for the impossible 😂😂

[@piersyfy4148]

I just got a regular used PS5 for $420 from some guy right before the PS5 Pro launch. I think I made the right decision.

[@dipsetny9291]

Just having a PlayStation 5 is the right decision.

[@SK_Falchion]

You paid too much. They are on Ebay used for $300

[@Anedime]

If it's a disc version you are okay, if it's the digital version you overpaid by about a hundred dollars.

[@Crashed131963]

They are $450 new with a warranty . I thought they sell for $300 used .

[@Crashed131963]

@@Anedime I think I would pay a extra $70 for a new disc version Ps5 with a warranty .

[@pixels_per_minute]

I just don't think it's worth the asking price. Especially here in Australia, where it's about $1,200 just for the console and 1 controller. If you need an extra controller, that's another $120. A plastic stand? $50. Disc drive? $160. Some games? $60, $70, $80, $110 each, depending on how broke you wanna feel afterwards. Can't forget about online services! That will be $21 per month, thank you! You're gonna need a mortgage for this thing.

[@thedarkemissary]

Your phone costs $800 and didn't even come with a charger. What are we really complaining about? Don't think it's worth $700, don't buy it. All your games still run on PS5.

[@pixels_per_minute]

@thedarkemissary Did you even read my comment? It's not $700 here. It's $1,200, and I'm not some idiot who goes out and buys overpriced phones. I got my Samsung A23 for $300 aud, which, mind you, cames with a charger and cable. I also only bought the thing because my old phone's battery died after 6 years and I couldn't replace it. Also, also. I don't even own a PS5, which means if I did get either one of them, I'd still be draining my bank account just to get them set with some games and accessories anyway. Especially the PS5 pro

[@LaughingLiftingGaming]

@@thedarkemissaryYou’re right, dont buy new phones lol that’s also dumb. But if all you have in defense for this obvious display of anti consumer business practice is “phones are overpriced too” and “then dont buy it”, you’re missing the point.

[@valentinvas6454]

On a hardware level the PS5 pro is just one extra TB storage and a 60 compute unit GPU instead of 36. The digital PS5 is 450 USD but the pro is somehow 700? 1TB high end SSDs are around 60-70 USD so the bigger GPU absolutely doesn't justify a further 270 USD. Especially when it's 4 years old RDNA 2 architecture.

[@fezzdogga4332]

I’m getting one from EBgames for around $600 because I’m trading in my current PS5. So for me I think it’s worth it. Getting the frame rate boost for half price seems good to me

[@chuc.dxq3809]

The social status thing is real. I swear.

[@proggz39]

Are people going out with PlayStation Pros strapped to them as part of their wardrobe, or using it as a vehicle around town to show off? Otherwise I don’t see the logic in your argument

[@chuc.dxq3809]

@proggz39 they have social media to show off. You don't use social media?

[@t0zu]

Flexing a 700 Dollar item for social status ist wild. It's Not expensive or rare enough to impress anyone while being too expensive to showcase your smart choices.

[@SundTFörnuft]

There is no such thing as social status regarding a simple tv game console. It's not a Lamborghini or Porsche

[@THETWUAN-r3u]

Guys it's the whole Keeping Up with the Joneses thing. How do you not get it?

[@imulan]

3 years later, PS6.

[@garymccormack7504]

@@imulan prob 4 years still a long time

[@Dryde85]

incorrect

[@garymccormack7504]

@Dryde85 its already been confirmed minimum 3 + years most likely 2028

[@proggz39]

4 years minimum. Same as ps4 pro. If you look closely you can see it in the name MID gen refresh

[@garymccormack7504]

@proggz39 some people think a couple of years ps6 will come out they be in for a shock def agree good 4 years yet

[@dontbejay]

Sony just getting high off their own farts like the one ep in South Park.

[@Dryde85]

and it's working.

[@proggz39]

I bet you wish you could sell a $700 console that tens of millions of people will buy

[@ewanfraser]

@@Dryde85is it?

[@CarolinaSportz]

Smug Alert. S10 E2

[@mrX666-s9p]

Keep coping

[@brucepreston3927]

The PS5 Pro should have come with the Dualsense Edge controller and a disc drive for the price they are asking

[@dpv007]

And 50 pounds of gold and a free bl0wj0b too... and even then, it would still feel disappointing

[@Dryde85]

incorrect. it would then be $999

[@Tekuwastaken]

And the stand.

[@stevencuellarart9495]

Well they added a bigger GPU and 2 terabytes of storage plus an extra 2gb of memory ram. That alone is a lo t of money. Let’s say you have a PC and want to upgrade it, that alone will cost you a few hundreds. So in reality the PS5 PRO is a decent price.

[@pebe4793]

​@@stevencuellarart9495 They did not decrease the price but even increased it for "old hardware". Scummy, remarkable but still kinda scummy. Do not get me started how Europe people gets shafted on the whole price side, reminds me of the good old ps3 era where everyone got a new DS3 controller except Europe, nope our console still got the old one for I believe it was about 2 years later. Price anchorage hey it is just 700 euro. No. It's about 900 with stand and disc drive. The old console should be cheaper by now (just imagine we had a price DECREASE like in the old times). So I believe the price is absolutely unreasonable in any kind of scenario. Ohh and don't forget games like space marines 2 will still get under 30 fps during gameplay, because of "bad programming"/high CPU power need.

[@shariarhossain5673]

New console but no new exclusive games To play

[@boinggerss1560]

Literally the same character models and environments that look the exact same on ps4 just now 60 fps 😂 then games get mad when people don’t like that their games aren’t 60 fps because now there really isn’t a difference

[@OnePintJohnny]

You’re forgetting there is a whole library of remasters which I think is on brand for PlayStation here because PlayStation have now literally remastered the PS5 😂 RemasterStation5 Pro!

[@lutherheggs451]

Nobody but fantards and brain dead Xbots care that there are PC ports of PS5 games...the same brain dead Xbots that don't buy games so MS has to put their games on their literal "competition" consoles to make money. Meanwhile Sony does PC ports to make extra money. Cool story though.....MS has a new Xbox to sell you for $600 with no upgrades, no disc drive and no option to add a disc drive, oh and don't forget to upgrade you WelfarePass or you lose games....OH wait in 4 years MS has released 4 games this gen, especially when you take away them trying to buy up the industry and remove those few third party multplat releases

[@sicariodu9546]

@@boinggerss1560Im sorry but no. Ps5 version of games do look superior than ps4 imo. I know because most game i played on the ps4 pro where the first i played onps5 because they weren’t no games yet really. Its more crisp more fluid ans detailed. Its like going from medium to high. I saw it with cyberpunk, tlou2 and resident evil village. I played re village on ps5 first and i saw a pretty great difference with the ps4. I honestly couldn’t go back on ps4 at that point but if i would have stayed ok ps4 i would probably feel like it could still hang in there too. The only game that are still the exact same are game like rdr2 and god of war 2018 and games with no visual update for ps5.

[@brasso4984]

@@boinggerss1560 it the same with any new hardware, the developers have to update the game to the hardware provided. If the developers haven’t updated the game to support it on a new hardware then it going to look the same as the previous. I think some people think because it a new hardware they’ll see results, it down to the developer to update the games to latest versions.

[@jerfacekilla]

Me spending $1,000 Cdn on this when I already have a PS5 (which has a disk drive and stand) is the definition of insanity.

[@IAmBetterThanIWasYesterday]

Nobody cares of the mental instability of westerners💀 the people love watching it though.

[@SsjHokage]

You could just stop being poor

[@TFAmbience]

I really hope you didn't

[@vintendio]

Dumbass

[@deltazeros]

I hope you didn't, but if you did, get the most of it :) As long as you did not sell your kidney for it, enjoy

[@carpenoctem]

Sony learned from Apple and Nintendo. Restrict supply and demand, remove standard accessories you normally include like the stand, change things up ever so slightly so you have to buy a new set of accessories, remaster/“remake” the same games from generations ago and sell at full price, etc. Glad I move over to PC years ago.

[@0x8badbeef]

I watched Digital Foundry's review. As soon as I heard "... for a console ..." I heard enough.

[@Syldarin]

Lol ok. Yet another tool who cant fathom pc and console audience is two completely different ones…

[@cyphre]

The supply of disc drive add-ons seems entirely intentional. No manner of 'we didn't expect the demand' is going to fly here, because they knew people would still need a disc drive for already owned games.

[@SundTFörnuft]

PS5 OG Black Friday deal with 2 tb internal extra storage and 2 games. $550

[@daveys_gaming_corner]

I used the $800 to upgrade my pc to the AM5 platform and got the 7800X3D Mobo and DDR5 Ram (I just bought a 4070 Super a few months back). In my opinion this was a better purchase than the PS5 Pro.

[@dipsetny9291]

No PlayStation player cares about PC!

[@dagreatberich1070]

Your loss, you could have been playing your ps5 games with 5 more fps lol

[@daveys_gaming_corner]

@@dipsetny9291 well they might wanna start a PS Launcher on PC is imminent. This is why they are dying on the hill with the Steam ports needing to be logged into PS network.

[@daveys_gaming_corner]

@@dagreatberich1070 $800 for a 30% increase in performance should be criminal

[@SuperSteph5]

You already have a PC. Buying a console makes no sense

[@TFAric]

No disk drive no buy. The only reason for me to get a console is to have physical games. I think I will save my money and buy an RTX 40-something

[@Crashed131963]

How does getting a PC help with your disc games ?

[@TFAric]

@Crashed131963 I said the only reason to ger a console is for the physical games. If I have to go digital I have no reason what so ever not to put the money on my PC. How used games don't really work for PC has always been a weakness.

[@AgtX999]

the drives exist, scalpers bought them all up & you can easily buy one at a rip off price or keep an eye out at retailers. You can buy one.

[@KingArthur13th]

@AgtX999 yeah, already see disk drives on ebay going for almost twice the msrp.

[@maia_0613]

it won't be long before console gaming is as expensive as PC gaming lol

[@IAmBetterThanIWasYesterday]

Doubt we see a 1000 dollar console in the next 20 years but I do think consoles are going to be extinct in the 2030s

[@KeluMocy]

@@IAmBetterThanIWasYesterday Nintendo may be the last console standing in 2030s, they will survive because their product cannot be directly replaced by PC.

[@GordonFreeman032]

​@@IAmBetterThanIWasYesterday 1000$ if you buy Ps5 Pro + a disk drive + the controller + the stand sold separately + a bigger SSD... I'm pretty sure we're already there or very close at least

[@IAmBetterThanIWasYesterday]

@@GordonFreeman032 true I meant to say a brand new launch console, it’s 1300 dollars with disc drive and stand in South Africa . I can build a 4080 super PC for 2200 dollars and will be cheaper during this month.

[@IAmBetterThanIWasYesterday]

@@KeluMocy appealing to children in the right way will always be around, Nintendo is a fun system and that’s where all the people who remember what gaming is supposed to be. On the Xbox and PlayStation people are chasing achievements/trophies obsessively, they are on twitter and KZbinr more, they are hiding their trophies/achievements and yapping too much.

[@brabbit6262]

The only thing I've noticed on PS5 pro is the image is little bit more sharper and maybe a little bit smoother than the regular PS5, I don't know if 700$ (accessories excluded) is the right call for it.

[@hiawa23]

I have been playing around with the Pro for a day now, installed the drive, stand, got all my PS4/PS5 games loaded and tested, and I absolutely love the Pro, and the added storage. Money is no object and for me, I say money well spent as I am a console only gamer and needed to replace my launch digital PS5 as back in 2020 could not find a disc PS5, and it allows me to retire my PS4 Pro since many of my PS4 games are physical. It probably is not needed for all gamers but I am fine with it.

[@sir_arsen]

They just slowly preparing to take 1000+ dollars for console, like apple, and companies like NVIDIA don‘t make it easier since they ramp up their prices too

[@Al3ksandrOrlov]

Used PS5s looking like a mighty good deal guys 😅

[@diegofrgc]

I can clearly see difference from 4K to 1440p. However 60fps is way more important.

[@Crashed131963]

I switch YT videos setting from 4k to 1440p and I can't spot the difference . Try it .

[@diegofrgc]

@Crashed131963 I watch YT on a S23 Ultra. I play games on a 65" 4K TV. The difference is jarring, bit its not worth the 30fps.

[@TheOnlyTaps]

Great coverage as always 👊🏿. I mean i dont even know why a mid generation refresh needs reviews. Coz i think it always ends up being the same thing. I always compare it to yearly phone upgrades. Do you absolutely need it? No Are some people gonna buy it? Yes Are some people not gonna buy it? Yes Coz base consoles will always handle every game that comes out in that generation fine. But for those who want that small incremental boost then for them it makes sense. So i reckon we will probably see similar sales numbers to previous pro consoles where usually once the generation ends they only make up about 10-17% of the total sales to signify that customer base that want the newest and latest ala the yearly phone buyers who buy a new phone every year rather than riding out 3+ years with one device. And also theres a percentage of people in that 10-17% who they dont have a base console so for them it makes sense that they would go in on the pro if available. Personally for me i have never needed a mid generation refresh. All my consoles have survived the generation from PS1 up to now on the PS5 (fingers crossed of course coz i may say this now then my console dies lol so i can only say as of me writing this).

[@Crashed131963]

I always skip the Pros. People holding off buying a Ps5 for 4 years to get the Pro. in two years the Ps6 will be out . That's when I move on .

[@TheOnlyTaps]

@Crashed131963 Yep 💯 pro versions are basically just a luxury item that's not essential. So it makes sense for those people that held off on the base model but for any of us who already own the base model we can just comfortably wait till the 6 comes round then make the switch.

[@BaneOfMan]

Who needs a stand for vertical? My original didn’t have the stand for 4 years. It stands vertical fine. I can see the difference between 1440p and 4k. It’s the improvement with HDR that pops. I had both hooked to my tv and switched between games on both and it’s night and day.

[@haruhidaso]

I think resolution thing will be game to game basis. I could immediately tell FF7R performance mode to quality mode. I ended up playing quality mode at 30 fps because I didn’t like the muddy look of the performance mode

[@alexlyster3459]

"They just ribbed it for your pleasure" out of nowhere almost made me spit my drink out 😂

[@Faktor13]

It is like in those spot the differnce images, in normal day gaming I would never notice a difference

[@joseijosei]

Luke, I'm sorry, but I think that buying the Pro to play a single timed exclusive before it comes out on PC is a much worse idea than buying it when you already have a PS5 and you don't play on PC. We are talking about paying $700 to play a single game a year earlier, while having a worse experience, vs. spending $700 to improve your experience with a lot of games, but don't get access to any extra titles. At least if you buy don't buy it to play a single year you could play a year later the platform doesn’t become useless after you finish that game. You can give it an actual good use as your main platform, and I'm not saying that the PS5 Pro is useless or anything, but if your PC is better than it, why would you use it?

[@T.O.Wallee]

it's $883 in my country

[@adblockevery1243]

Probably true for most games but GTA6 is not most games

[@dipsetny9291]

No PlayStation player cares about PC. You not even going to have one so how the f**k you going to say what runs good or bad. Stay in your lane!

[@nicolasferreiro4492]

​@@adblockevery1243Is it worth that much though?

[@theLonelyLemnn]

Moved over to PC in 2019 and never looked back.

[@stevencuellarart9495]

I bought a PS5 pro for the sake of just having the best console out there. I like consoles in general, new hardware and design. It could be Nintendo, Xbox, it doesn’t matter which company, I just like to collect the new tech. Do I need it? Not really but to me it’s exciting having to open a box, with a new console that you know it has better hardware/performance. So yes this is a product aiming at a different audience… like myself 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@jordirapper]

And that is fine. No one should have a say on what you do or do not buy and in your comment, you're honest which most fanboys can't claim. So you do you man and hope you enjoy. And this coming from a guy with no intrest in consoles anymore.

[@IAmBetterThanIWasYesterday]

Nobody cares bro, anyone with a credit card and have no will power can buy this plastic box

[@eire323]

I did the same, seems there are a lot of us.

[@grayjedioutcast3550]

Hey i can understand that.

[@frisby7143]

Same, luckily i managed to get the 30th anniversary edition of the ps5 pro and I’m super excited for it

[@INFPeace-]

I’m in the same boat as your wife as I’m not bothered by inferior visuals. I couldn’t care less about graphical upscaling. Since I own the base PS5, skipping the pro model is an easy no brainer for me!

[@omg_RANCORS]

I think it’s not that people can’t tell the difference between the two, it’s that the difference doesn’t matter. Most games look so good anyway all you need is a good framerate.

[@night0merchant]

I was in the PS4 player category, also/because I'm poor. I had been waiting for a $600 PS 5 pro, but instead it's $800 including tax and no disc drive...so I went ahead and bought a used base model PS5 with disc drive for $350 on FB marketplace, saving about $450, which I think is worth not having to use a microscope to spot the graphic "improvements". Another thing Luke didn't mention in the upgrade chart is that...if you don't have a 4k tv (that is large enough), which I don't, you can't take advantage of the graphic or performance improvements anyway

[@RacerDrag]

you need slim instead

[@night0merchant]

@@RacerDrag a no disc slim and a disc base were the same price, I just cared for the disc drive more than i cared for size

[@livibam]

I’d have bought this day one if it had a disc drive and stand included.

[@duckey499]

I'm legally blind so I can't tell the difference anyways but I can tell the difference between 400,500 and 700 in my bank account... but since I have two ps5 ima trade one in and pay the difference.. and I wonder if it being the disc vision will make a confidencing trade to someone with a pro that with extra 150 bucks on top if not ima see what game stop will do

[@InterstellarKev]

I wannt to add a Citation on what you mentioned about not being able to tell the difference between 1440p and 4k. You absolutly can deppending on your viewing distance. It is Much more noticeable on Monitors at maybe 12 - 24 inches from your monitor. Defiently not so much when your 6 - 8 ft away from your tv but its still there . The biggest difference your gonna see is defiently just a softer blur on a tv at a lower res thats not native to the tv/monitor. With that being said. I would defiently sacrfice 4k for 2k to get better frames If I needed to in the past before upgrading to my rig I have now.

[@WSBfds]

I wish i could buy a 5090 at retail, BUT mannnn itll be tough to get one with all these scalper bots. It is rough to get a 4090 founders right now at retail. So if you wont spend an insane amount on ebay, you are looking at waiting prob 2 years or more to get one at a good price. It sucks.

[@travisjacobson682]

The Founders Edition card was a limited production run so Nvidia could say the retail price was $1599. I don't think we know exactly how many they produced, but it's safe to assume the number is relatively small. There were AIB models that sold for $1599 too, but those also dried up quickly. Your best bet for getting a 5090 at launch is probably a Microcenter, if you live near one. If not, I'd suggest you find some sort of inventory tracker and try to order one off of Best Buy's website. There are discords and Twitter users that usually have good info about when and where restocks are going to occur. It took me about 6 weeks of active pursuit to purchase a 4090 at retail in 2022, but by early 2023 they were relatively easy to find in stock (I'm talking about AIBs, not the FE). It may be more difficult this time around due to increased interest in AI applications, but my advice is to be patient and don't pay the scalpers!

[@joeallen3388]

Then just wait and don't be a idiot consumer.

[@zaselimgamingvideos]

You can, i bought my asus tuf gaming rtx4090 OC at retail (1700usd) from bestbuy in February last year around 4 months after launch. You just need patience. I knew i wanted tuf gaming oc or rog strix oc variant and I went into the store and tuf oc was on the shelves among gigabyte and msi variants so i picked it up paid 1699 and came home happy😊. The reason these things sold at black prices because people have no patience and they buy it from scalpers instead of waiting. If people wait instead of buying at the scalping prices then the scalpers wouldn't get any profits and will stop selling these products at high prices. The blame is on people both buyers and scalpers.

[@WSBfds]

@ i have seen them at retail prices, i think you can still get it on amazon. But i wanted the founders because of the size. The variants are HUGE. But you are right about scalpers though. The 5090s will be gone in an instant 😭😭😭

[@zaselimgamingvideos]

@@WSBfds Yeah i have a full tower Chasis "Corsair Graphite 780t" So it went easily in there.

[@aclaylambisabirdman6324]

I bought my disk drive the day their announced the PS5 Pro, it gets here tomorrow

[@Albert_YTC]

Haha I should’ve done the same. I managed to get mine a month ago

[@THEONETRUEOVERLORD]

4:37 for the record Helldivers two does have a physical edition.

[@KhanKhav7]

i think if you have ps5 already just wait for ps6. the pro is too expensive for basically the same console

[@edwardbrennan3963]

My guess is Sony is making a profit off of the pro. It's not like the first edition that needed an install base to buy games so they would sell it at a lose. MOST people buying the pro already have a PS5 so they wouldn't make additional profit on game sales since these people are already in the ecosystem.

[@obits3]

Let’s see… for $700, you could get a Switch, pro controller for around $350 with $350 left for games. You can get Zelda BOTW with DLC for around $80 and Zelda TOTK for $70. For the remaining $200, there’s plenty to choose from. For example, you could get all the Xenoblade Chronicles games or some Pokémon games or Mario games or 10-20 good eshop games which are always on sale. Personally, I only got into Zelda BOTW this past year after playing TOTK and it still holds up.

[@frisby7143]

No thanks

[@Crashed131963]

And play at 720p on a big screen? No thanks . When the last time a new AA or AAA game played on a switch ? Look at the 2025 game line up , not many play on a Switch.

[@ST-mn6nw]

Psn is overpriced too, can always find the same game physical for cheaper

[@Crashed131963]

PS store do have some great sales some times . sometimes 85% off.

[@EnsarKoc-r2d]

And i got lots of free games due to my ps plus subscription. 3 new games every month? That is actually a lot of money worth games

[@JHD6045]

I keep hearing about the disc drives being unavailable everywhere, and while some online locations have them off and on, at just about every Walmart, Target, and Beat Buy I've been into over the past month has had them. At least 5 or more in stock. I know it can be hit and miss in different cities, but I figured they would be few and far between.

[@mr.wilder796]

You probably live in a "red state" rural area like Indiana or Ohio if I had to guess. Where the people are wiser and need to see value in their purchases.

[@JKBlackClover]

I just wish there was more incentive like some exclusive games or something. Paying $700 excluding disc drive and stand just isn’t worth it for the average gamer.

[@jeezycreezy4220]

Disc drives are starting to become more avlible. I saw a bunch on the shelf at Walmart earlier today. I could have grabbed one or 7 with no fuss if I had wanted to.

[@loladean3991]

I am in theory a target for this, I have the home theater to take full advantage of it but I have a primarily disc collection and the disc drive standard PS5 and the Pro just smacks a bit of a rip off, like the increment isn't worth the near 800 US I'd need to get it and a disc drive

[@Phresh-ev8xp]

13:58 just looked like the contrast was raised to me.

[@abrammill9365]

The only time i have noticed resolution differences was in Cyberpunk 2077 with how the lights on the cars would hit the road, but the jittery nature of dropping to 30fps from 60fps made me nauseous.

[@snoopykiller1976]

Very funny Luke. Starts off by commenting on how a 4K game system review should be in 4K. This video is only 1080p. That is one wicked sense of humor you got there Luke. 😂

[@UrSuLeTzU7777]

It makes perfect sense to me to upgrade now. I traded in my old PS5 for half the price of my new PRO(this won't always be the case, better trade it in when it still has a decent value) and I don't need a stand or a disk drive. I have about 15 games I waited to play on the PRO, not to mention the PSVR2 upgrades(that neither you or IGN even mention). The PRO is a solid enthusiast piece of hardware and it makes little sense to wait if you want to play console games at their best, it obviosuly helps to trade in your old PS5 or get the PRO if you don't have one yet. P.S: you actually get 1.1TB of extra storage on the PRO compared to the regular PS5.

[@Odder-Being]

What the hell are you talking about with CNET 1080p review? It's in 4k for me, just checked it.

[@ryans413]

Might not have been in 4K when he did this video the 4k takes some time to process on you tube.

[@artheals8869]

The pro performance mode and pro graphics mode look identical besides the fact that the graphics mode is slightly sharper. Those extra frames might be more important in combat, but in exploration it’s virtually interchangeable.

[@edwardbrennan3963]

The thing about "side by side" tests is people NEED to see it to know the difference as you said. Without that, most people wouldn't notice a difference at all

[@willnatmartin]

Series X 2TB edition is $600 with 0 upgrades and 0 disk drive yet not one complaint about price, or the drive, so what are we doing?

[@PANDASHANKED]

The 2TB version comes with a disc drive, the white all digital only comes with 1TB

[@iandavis8725]

You’re confusing two different Xbox series X models there. The 2TB model does have a disc drive, the 1TB white model does not.

[@SundTFörnuft]

I'm going to vote with my wallet. No Pro console, no more controllers, no more digital store games

[@willnatmartin]

@ I’m speaking with mine too. I’ll be trading in my PS5 and picking up my Pro immediately after work. :)

[@SsjHokage]

@@SundTFörnuftgood thing then I’m picking one up because I’m not poor

[@Boss_Fight_Index_muki]

Get the Pro if you really care about having both quality mode and 60fps. If you're fine with the fidelity of performance mode in the base ps5, go with that instead.

[@MxrkJJ]

If you truly care about frame rate then dont bother, some benchmarks have shown that in quite a few games it tops 50 fps rather than consistently being on 60, ppl should just buy a pc atp

[@Boss_Fight_Index_muki]

@@MxrkJJ which benchmarks?

[@perfectcelle371]

@@MxrkJJ yep pc is the way to go now please it's a cheaper platform overall to play games

[@Pinsonneaultmotorsports]

@@Boss_Fight_Index_mukilook up a review from digital foundry BGS 3 can barely do 40 FPS going into 33

[@aaronwhitson2345]

they should have put a display port next to the hdmi so players could get 144+ fps. ya know since corny said most players were picking performance mode 2/3 of the time anyway. wouldn't even break that much ground considering component and hdmi were offered on 7th gen systems.

[@BillSkarsgardRuinedMyLife]

Going from 1080 to 4k I barely noticed a difference but after being on my 4k TV for a while now when I see 1080 it's a very clear difference

[@GamingandFrightened]

I got one and damn. I’m impressed. It really improves the frame rate on older gamers and the newer ones that have pro upgrades are freaking fantastic

[@mynameismud-qd9vu]

No way I'm upgrading to a 50 Series card when they drop. I'm betting Nvidia will continue to price gouge, especially with the 5080 and 5090. I may upgrade to a 4080 if the prices drop enough, but if not I'm perfectly fine with my 3080.

[@KaizerSozaye]

You don’t understand!! I need the PS5 Pro for Grand Theft Auto VI and Marvel’s 1943 Rise Of Hydra

[@cheemslord9917]

do you really think it can run good

[@SundTFörnuft]

Just buy it, people need cheaper used PS5 OG and Slim consoles. And if more people buy into the Pro hype, more people wil lsell their "older" PS5 for cheap. Perfect

[@joeallen3388]

Gta won't run any better on the pro open world games are CPU intensive and the pros CPU is the same as in the base ps5.

[@Whreck11]

To play gta6 at 30 fps

[@SundTFörnuft]

@@Whreck11 $1000 to be able to play GTA6 with a locked 30fps and RT. Id rather hit my thumb with a hammer

[@nicknixon275]

I agree about resolution. I wanted a new 1440p monitor, but I have a 3060 and not a lot of cash. So I decided to get 2 1080p high refresh rate monitors instead. I saved money AND got a second monitor. The extra resolution does absolutely nothing for me considering I just play games to relax. I’m not recording videos or doing anything crazy. Most gamers should consider the tradeoffs for their wallets.

[@nicknixon275]

And yes, I spent almost a full day making sure I wasn’t getting random Chinese made monitors. I spent a lot of time in deliberation on which monitor was the best choice for me. It wasn’t like I just bought the cheapest panels on the market.

[@iHelderScrolls]

for me having an high-end pc (and even when I didnt had one). I already go with the mentality of "I'm gonn have a worse experience than on my pc" but I can get over it because most of the time I'm playing exclusives on my PS5.

[@IsaacClarke0]

Apple: $3000 price tag for Vision Pro Sony: Hold my beer

[@VonTylar]

@@IsaacClarke0 Sony: hold my controller with stick drift lol

[@erikkeener5377]

Lol ps5 pro “you can now play blood borne in 4k 30” AHAHAHAHAHA!

[@kato093]

That's not how it works...? The apple stuff costs more than a PS5PRO.

[@prodbybigl]

I don’t see a point in getting the PS5 and Xbox Series consoles. The games coming out aren’t that good and the ones that are good are few and far in between. Plus I think it’s obvious that Sony and Microsoft are pushing for a new digital age which for me is a no go. Think I’ll just buy a modded 360 and play all my old games for years to come

[@OnePunchLion]

Welcome to Micro-transactions, hardware edition! Suprised EA didn't attempt this first.

[@zombiedog1088]

When I pre ordered mine at gamestop I told them I absolutely need a disc drive and of course the girl said they didn't have any. We'll I said forget it then so she called her manager, and tada! They had 1 for me in the back they saved for me.. stand drive and system was 900$. I bought a car less than 20yrs ago for half of that and a Toyota to boot!

[@frankkennedy6388]

12:19 Luke, as an "average gamer", I have never noticed the difference between 30fps vs. 60fps. I just know my games look good and don't lag.

[@ryans7097]

Going to be really interesting to see what PS6 throws at us as a package. I'm sure PS5 pro is an awesome system but just does not seem like a big enough jump if you already have PS5. I think my biggest gripe with PS in general is the lack of titles that are truly next gen feeling and just how long games are taking to make these days. I wonder what steps can be taken to help speed up the process while maintaining high quality. I feel like my biggest example I can think of is SMS saying they made GOW into a two part series (it easily should have been 3) cause they didn't want to spend 15 years making 3 games.

[@noamias4897]

If this allowed me to play a substantial amount of games at 4k 60fps (or upscaled 1440p) on my 4K gaming monitor then I’d buy it. But the only games I’d play on it are Demon Souls and Ragnarok, both of which I’ve played, and one of which is on Steam

[@omega6908]

You can get a disc drive in gamestop or Walmart right now. I see plenty of them.

[@andyespinozam]

It can also be true that the product actually has a value and they are pricing it accordingly. Oh, and this is probably for a 10% share of the whole PS5 sales, not made for everyone, not made to replace the standard version.

[@Ace56723]

I already have a base model Series X and a base model PS5 and can’t say I even remotely feel the need to buy any upgraded models of either.

[@brianbiswell7591]

I'm in the same boat you are Have a series X and a ps5. Bought storage upgrades for each and that's all I've done.

[@TheMa5cmpb]

And no one asked you to either

[@ricardovazquezbarrios1005]

@@brianbiswell7591 same! I do not see the need for a upgrade 4 years later and prob 2 before the ps6, I prefer to invest in a storage expansion and a better controller or headsets.

[@pilotstiles]

Oh you can tell the difference in 4K and 1080p. I have been a 4K gamer since I bought the 1080ti. Now what made the big difference for me in 4K is the advent of HDR10.

[@S7eventhHeaven]

The problrm with upgrading pc next year to the 5000 series is gta 6 the years biggest game isnt coming to pc for 2 years.

[@kermut]

As a PC player, literally the only reason I would but a console is to play GTA VI day one and by then I could probably get a PS5 PRO used for like $500

[@Mrtwistedblack]

Honestly, this price for me isn’t just Sony being Sony at the moment. It’s going to be that in a small part, but the increase in cost of living is the major part of these increases. Look at Nvidia’s price increases, it’s not just Sony. I think all manufacturers were trying to hold off announcing any prices as they don’t want to be the bad guy! The Pro was rumoured for so long, I think Sony were hoping Nvidia or another company were going to announce upcoming cost increases first. Eventually though they had to rip the band aid off and announce. I think all better buckle up for the next round of increases to all other devices we buy.

[@matthewwebster3143]

The og PS5 has 850G of free space when you get it outta the box, though its advertised at 1 TByte

[@mrturbo84]

Yes because the rest is for the OS.

[@brianbiswell7591]

Actually the og PS5 had 820 gigs with 660 usable

[@editating_2614]

1.89 tb usable on Pro

[@lasthopelost9090]

@@mrturbo84 No not quite its cause how expensive SSD chips were in 2020 and how much demand there was then, they have gone down a quite a bit and now they can put in more in these consoles finally

[@mrturbo84]

@@lasthopelost9090 No that was only the Reason to keep the Playstation 5 cheaper.

[@CNTconnoisseur]

You mentioned "future proofing." The PS5 and PS5 Pro both still have the CMOS battery bomb.

[@ryans413]

PS5 pro has an access panel for the battery to be replaced

[@TheOutdoorBeerReview]

Last console i owned was the PS3 and even my tv needs to be updated, its an old 1080p Sanyo. Im not rich, but I guess I could see getting the Pro since it does come with double the SSD storage, i have zero disk games so i dont really care about the disk drive not being there, but having said all this the only game I can even really think of that I want to play on it is RDR2 and eventually GTA6 but thats a ways away, so I dont really mind waiting for a potential sale on these

[@Subninja2012]

About the PS4 Pro knowing it was an incremental upgrade or games could run at proper 1440 P. I’m buying the PS five pro because it is an incremental upgrade that will allow AI up going to enhance all the previously PS4 games

[@Crashed131963]

It can not do a thing for a Ps4 game that did not get a patch. only about 150 Ps4 games got the free 4k/60fps patch for the Ps5. The developers of Bloodborne and RDR2 will keep those games at 1080p/30fps even if you play it on a Ps8 pro .

[@MountKash1]

The fact of the matter is that most people have gone digital. 80% of all games sold on PS5 are digital. People's music, movies, PC gaming & console gaming are most all digital these days. I think Playstation said somewhere that like 1 out 5 people have used their disc drive. I personally have been digital since PS3/360 generation (that's when i started transitioning over to digital). And everyone i know personally is pretty much all digital now. I think if anyone i know does buy any physical anything. It's more or less about having it as a sorry of collector item.

[@ployth9000]

had no issue buying the disc drive I actually bought that before I got my ps5 pro after what sony did with concord I am buying as much playstation games physical as I can

[@RPGfanatic101]

I would argue that it is yes on if you have a ps5 and no on having no ps5 or having a ps4. Here is my logic. If you already have a ps5 you can trade it in to offset the cost. In fact, during the holiday season, I wouldn't be shocked if there was a trade in bonus. If you don't have a ps5 you can get a used one much easier now and at a lower cost and still play all the same games just with lower, but still impressive, visuals. And if you still have a ps4 well... if you weren't convinced to buy a ps5 then what would convince you to pay more for a pro.

[@Morkail321]

Back in the PS3 and Xbox 360 era i have both and a PC But damn near everything ends up on PC these days and everything just seems so much more expensive these days.

[@j.j.9511]

The advertising for this said it would get rid of the need for choose graphics modes & all I'm hearing are graphics modes for the pro. $700 & still gotta pick a mode.

[@XionSteel]

Just all the nickel and diming is foul while still keeping it at the 700$ price tag. They could have included a plastic stand with the option to buy the metal one for aesthetics, they didn't need to change the clip layout to disallow older plate replacements from working (especially since they STILL are barely offering any up for sale), the disk drive they kind of shot themselves by making it proprietary and based on serial number registration, they could have left that to resellers and not have the EU breathing down their neck about it. They just choose not to since they want their own locked down eco-system and you wonder why people go ape shit when a launcher get added to their games.

[@ShiftNova]

I mighy be a lucky buy when it came to my OG PS5 I never notice any loud sounds coming from it.

[@Tiger-makhulu]

Ppl might want to save up for ps6 because thats gonna be expensive. Probably wont have a disc drive, Probably gonna drop at 7 or 800$ and no stand 🤔

[@Alacrity-reserved]

There is a better place to put your $700 if you are gaming on a 1080p LCD monitor. A 1440p OLED monitor. OLED pixel response time will make any frame rate look 50% faster according to channels that debut monitors, such as Monitors Unboxed, and optimum. Also for those that play RPG's, OLED's black levels cannot be matched by any LCD. Also, they all seem to be 240Hz. That's future proofing.

[@artiss92]

I feel like the ps5 pro is not worth getting

[@shoff29]

I still remember when I bought my first 4k monitor; upgrading from my 1440p monitor. Both were 144hz. And I can clearly remember the first time I booted it up and played Apex Legends, and I was blown away how much of a difference there was. Like I had just gotten laser eye surgery to fix my vision. It was that much clearer. So when people say there isn’t much difference between 1440 and 4k, and you have to really TRY to see the difference, I’m just baffled and can’t believe it.

[@Macronaso]

Yeah I am baffled that Luke says that you can't tell the difference between 1440p and 4K. It is not as clear as going from 1080p to 1440p but damn I can easily see it. However I must say that I play PC games on a big 4K TV. I think playing on a 30 inch monitor, the difference wouldn't be as noticeable. But it it absolutely something you can see with your plain eyes without much examination, and during gameplay too. This just reminds me of the people 10 years ago saying you can't see the difference between 30 and 60 fps. Baffling.

[@BusterDarcy]

Probably has something to do with viewing distance. Which is the same thing as the graphics improvements with the pro. Unless you are close to the screen you may in fact not be able to tell much of a difference, and lots of people are sadly way farther away than even optimal viewing distances let alone up close.

[@travisjacobson682]

I 100% agree with you, but keep in mind it's way easier to see the difference in small detail on a 27-32 inch monitor that's maybe 18-24 inches from your face vs a 55-65 inch TV that's 10+ feet away. You have to be surprisingly close to a 65" TV for it to occupy the same percentage of your field of view as a 27" monitor in a normal desktop setup. Off the top of my head, it's like 5 feet. Very few people are sitting that close to their TVs, so consoles can get away with more upscaling/lower base resolution. I'm not saying it's impossible to tell the difference between 4k and 1440p in a couch gaming setup, but it's not nearly as night and day as it is in a desktop setup.

[@AyaReikoTripleElite]

@@BusterDarcy The viewing distance, and the quality of your TV.

[@IAmBetterThanIWasYesterday]

You play video games you don't go sightseeing

[@Weeeest246]

I used to play cod of a ps3 in 480p because the hdmi port broke and it was insane when I got a ps4 with hdmi

[@HaloProductionsUSA]

GTA 6 is one of the main reasons i ordered one. FF17 Rebirth and Stellar blade for current. GTA 6 is gonna be great on it, It was gonna chug on the original ps5.

[@Crashed131963]

I tried playing GTA 5 twice and just could not get into it .

[@lunarneos]

I just walked into my country ass Walmart in Northern Alabama and bought a disc drive a SSD, and some games. I ain't know that they're that hard to find. I can get some for some people

[@pedrochiswell3629]

18:36 look how washed and blurry this is. "Dude trust us raytracing and fake resolution is the future, it doesnt matter it destroys all detail in the image and looks less crisp in motion than a ps2 game"

[@ayeyuh6920]

Ngl, I'm not a FPS snob or a resolution snob. I'll fr play a game at like 15-20 FPS if the game is good enough. Yeah it's irritating a lot of the time but as long as I'm still able to immerse myself, I stop noticing it for the most part unless I get huge stutters.

[@LeonBarnes85]

Tbh i dont know why im suprised with the PS5 pro when they release a PS portable

[@ryans413]

Portal is actually not bad because it didn’t cost 700 dollars

[@LeonBarnes85]

@ryans413 lol what U say....Please stop ...it's a controller with a Kindle tablet....

[@ryans413]

@@LeonBarnes85 yep and ? The pro is just a PS5 with slightly less blurriness. Should not cost 700 dollars

[@LeonBarnes85]

@ryans413 The Ps5 pro is a laugh ...they could have just released a PS5 slim upgrade... Noone would complain, more memory n yes an elite controller....base on what Luke is saying Sony is no longer selling products at a lost ...new management

[@LeonBarnes85]

I wonder how long will the die hard fans put up with the nickel n dime...

[@VitalVampyr]

There's really no technical reason a game console couldn't use a 3rd party USB Blu-ray drive to read a disc. If console makers are going to offer hardware without the option to have a disc drive included in the box they really should support that.

[@derell6656]

I love how 90% of these companies went completely anti consumer . Nickle and diming is ridiculous

[@BushyBushido]

Personally, I don't think it's about lomiti g consumers to digital purchases so much as it is a problem on the production side. They have a lot of niche products that get restocked sporadically.