These kind of videos take a lot of time to put together, great job Vincent.!!
@tkermi3 жыл бұрын
True, many people might not understand how much work it takes. Thanks from me too! 🙂
@mekedestegegn96763 жыл бұрын
Why do I get alt account vibes here
@tkermi3 жыл бұрын
@@mekedestegegn9676 🤔🤷🏻♂️ I'm not a content creator at all. My name is Timo Kerminen, an audio professional from Finland. 🙂
@msp56163 жыл бұрын
No one really cares... because it will probably all change with a firmware update... and I prefer ice cream
@JimNortonsAlcoholism Жыл бұрын
@@msp5616 It didn't
@BjornIn19793 жыл бұрын
"I'm gonna slow things down, or else, it'll be over too soon." - Vincent Teoh 2021
@leogets20063 жыл бұрын
That's what she said
@BestSongsOfTheEars3 жыл бұрын
@@leogets2006 who? your girlfriend?
@leogets20063 жыл бұрын
@@BestSongsOfTheEars yep yep lol
@ThaVillaMan3 жыл бұрын
This is a great comparison, Vincent. Sony made up for their PS4 omission!
@michaelmayers36223 жыл бұрын
@@ElCompaJuice c9 is better than c10
@chasen4323 жыл бұрын
I really like the way you split the screen to do side by side comparisons so it doesn't mess with the camera when trying to capture both TV screens.
@halfvader80153 жыл бұрын
The company that could afford the billion dollar loss on PS3 to be 'forward compatible' was not the same company structure or debt-wise that could do that sort of thing again for PS4. And considering MS's disastrous implementation of UHD blu on the xbox 1, I'd say it was pretty much a wash...
@MasterRend4n3 жыл бұрын
@@halfvader8015 but better that they actually had a uhd bluray player than ps4 that did not. sure the uhd bluray player on xbox one wasnt as good as the best dedicated uhd bluray players on the market, but they were better than many of the cheap options, not to mention it was still miles ahead of ps4s regular bluray performance and not to mention playing the 4k bluray discs still looked way better than the 4k you would get from netflix or other streaming services. the minor differences on the next gen consoles uhd blurays is something that can be corrected via firmware updates, which they are working on. MS have already corrected the blackness levels issues via the latest firmware after vincent showcased the issues.
@halfvader80153 жыл бұрын
@@MasterRend4n Sure, I know, saw that. But there are a bunch of other problems too. And as I've been saying it took years for them to (almost) iron out the ongoing problems on Xbox1. So atm it's hard to see how this will be any different. Forgive me for being glass half empty on this - I'm not happy they 'already' corrected the black levels. After years of stuffing up with the last one I'm incredulous they allowed it out of the gate with black level problems to start with - because blacks were *also* a problem last time around! And if it's true that it's the same UHD drive as before, all I can do is shake my head even more. Not to be combative but I'd even disagree about PS4 and XB1 re UHD performance/quality. PS4 was a great regular blu-ray player, but the XB1s couldn't even manage *regular* blu (never mind UHD) playback without constant skipping and crashes on the 1s for a while there (in addition to all the other UHD/HDR problems). Just an embarrassment. Obviously I'm not an Xbox hater as I own one, but my God MS are appalling way too much of the time. Cheers.
@billymoose5203 жыл бұрын
You have helped me buy both my tvs. LG C8 and LG B9. I still watch all your damn videos! I'm like a semi pro TV salesmen now haha
@LLBlackJ3 жыл бұрын
I personally think the reason that the xbox delivers lower performance and only 10 bit rather than 12 is due to it being the app from the Xbox One X and hasn't been fully upgraded/ optimised for the Series X
@TristanTheVRGamecat3 жыл бұрын
It's like no effort or thought was put into designing a black rectangle, just saying it looks like alot more thought time and money was spent developing the ps5......so why is series x same price 2 years working in a system to use liquid metal effectively wasent cheap , developing the enhancements of the dual sense wasent cheap.......XBOX are seriously ripping people off selling them a basic box with some pc parts dumped inside , they didn't even enhance the interface it's still 1080p isn't it.......what a joke
@cooper232313 жыл бұрын
@@TristanTheVRGamecat the fanboyism never ends... Do you go out once in a while? Crazy how you talk so much about color gamut differences but when it comes to gaming on the console both are neck and neck. I own a p5 and a PC, you don't see me walking around sucking sony's weewee in comment sections not gaining anything from it...
@TristanTheVRGamecat3 жыл бұрын
@@cooper23231 pc player here too dude , it's just Xbox that's trash, I play ps5 , pc , and switch........if ya have a pc then Xbox is the most pointless thing to exist to be honest , never mind their low effort , and focus on gamepass.....ergh , garbage Wanna make it clear Im no fanboy , I just like quality games and that's something Xbox just don't do and ya have to admit it is just a basic black box with some pc parts thrown in they didn't even re design or enhance the interface.......I mean come on did they spend anything in r+d on the damn thing...... :-s
@cooper232313 жыл бұрын
@@TristanTheVRGamecat lol, saying that it's a box with PC parts is pure ignorance imo. Both run on almost the same architecture, the only difference being that xbox is running on full rdna 2. And why would you fix something that isn't broken? They are putting money where the issue was last gen =not having games. Yet people like you walk around on a video about the integrated blue Ray player and complain about having a slithly modded controller and having a slithly different UI (if you'd know anything you'd actually know that both had changed from the last gen). I'd rather have them making efforts to actually have new IPs for us to play than getting us a new controller that already has their joysticks drifting.
@TristanTheVRGamecat3 жыл бұрын
@@cooper23231 you know Xbox is buying studios to pad out gamepass right that's their only concern and you can bash ps5 in what ever way you want I'm enjoying my quality games and actual new improvements not just playing old games and if Xbox did ever make anything that's decent....which I honestly think will be A LONG time coming then il play on my pc , the Xbox is pointless and gamepass is making everything worse , just because you are a fanboy for xbox doesn't mean I'm a fanboy to playstation I have no loyalty to any type of plastic box , I mostly play pc vr for a start :-s But I can see where thought and effort and money was put in and I can see where little to no effort was made........ And one last thing you think Microsoft investing in studios to make great games.......after seeing halo infinite , bleeding edge , crackdown , gears 5, 😂😂😂😂 funniest shit I heard all day man even Thier best title (gears 5) is so sub par compared to the older games I mean come on how blind and stupid do you have to be too not see Xbox as the bad news it is I mean 3 generations of constant dissapointment if you haven't learned by now more fool you I learned after that kinect was an over priced piece of trash and then trying to kill used games , Xbox was dead too me ever since then and they have done nothing to win me back Once again YOU FUCKING MORON , I don't give a fuck what you say about other platforms I ain't a fanboy , but I know Xbox sucks ( everything else I'm cool with switch , PS4/5, pc , hell I'd take the KFC console for a laugh but not that trash Xbox ) What is funny tho is you say your looking forward to new IP from Microsoft the company that's survived off halo , gears and Forza where every other ip has been a flop Pissing myself laughing when I read that one your one funny dude il give ya that
@brucecarter62053 жыл бұрын
A separate stand-alone player is always the best option, but this is still good info for anyone looking for an all-in-one gaming and 4K movie player.
@bman62852 жыл бұрын
Actually xbox is best way to go ps5 always puts movies in 24 fps even ones that arnt but xbox puts movies in 23.98 for 23.97 And movies that ate 24 fps are 24 fps scream factory movies play in 24fps on xbox for some reason it is problem with studio canal and xbox
@realSandrow2 жыл бұрын
@@bman6285 he said the contrary in the video
@mauriciotunnermann93612 жыл бұрын
@@bman6285 no. You didn’t even watch the video did you?
@dagbman3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing out the Series X frame-skipping issue on 24fps discs. It has been present for years now, dating back to previous generations of Xbox and affects standard blurays mastered in 24fps as well. I've reported the problem to Microsoft to no avail. Any chance you can reach out to the same MS engineer that responded to the "raised black level" issue? I feel like you are my only hope!
@ionlywatch2 жыл бұрын
Sony is a well known expert in image processing, and Microsoft just dont care that much, what an unfortunate disaster for the blu ray watchers.
@aisback19903 жыл бұрын
If only the consoles offered Dolby Vision
@naderzein24353 жыл бұрын
Series X is confirmed to get DV for games at a later date. No word on if the blu-ray app will support it though.
@aisback19903 жыл бұрын
@@naderzein2435 I have a PS5 so I'm probably going to get the Panasonic UB820 for it
@naderzein24353 жыл бұрын
@@aisback1990 Nice, can't go wrong with Panasonic.
@Mr_Battlefield3 жыл бұрын
I hope Sony decides to support Dolby Vision for both Games and Movie's for the PlayStation 5. I'm more concerned with movie's over game's. Sucks because my Google Chromecast with Google TV supports Dolby Vision.
@Miadaskate3 жыл бұрын
They will eventually.
@mgsv52973 жыл бұрын
Multipass! I love The Fifth Element it’s one of my favorite movies of all time.
@tristman84133 жыл бұрын
Bigbadaboom
@shakengandulf3 жыл бұрын
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt
@ThaVillaMan3 жыл бұрын
Super green
@boedillard88073 жыл бұрын
Multipass, That's a nice hat! SCREW YOU!, Negative, I am a meat popsicle, YEESSS!, Champagne for the DIVA, Chicken - GOOD! Big badddaboom!, Ray, the Gun! Corbin my man! You think he's going to be OK? Who taught him to negotiate like that? SOO many great lines!
@anamositykilla21903 жыл бұрын
I have it on disc! Still watch the movie in 2021!
@Tulipo083 жыл бұрын
Disappointing from an xbox owner perspective. Microsoft just dropping the ball. Really hoping a software update can fix these issues and add Dolby Vision support for blu ray playback as well.
@LouSassol69er3 жыл бұрын
There seems to be alot of issues with the Xbox variants of everything right now. Games are optimised worse than PS5, Blu Ray is worse. They need to sort this out.
@Zen0sa3 жыл бұрын
@@LouSassol69er i dont know if you check twitter about that and "lots" of issues is exagerating :D, xboxsx is having better results at the moment with games and will only be better over time. Only blu ray seems off per microframe on 24fps movies.
@liaminwales3 жыл бұрын
@@LouSassol69er well as ever it takes a year or so for both teams to pull the best out of there hardware, we can only hope the film playback will be fixed in an update.
@kghhgkgk63228 ай бұрын
Has any of this changed in the past two years?
@Sammy-340793 ай бұрын
xbox series x has a better blu-ray player dude! better media player it has bing and it can play music cds it has better color then shit ps5!
@kghhgkgk63223 ай бұрын
@@Sammy-34079 for 4k Blu rays, the PS5 displays more accurate colors than the series x.
@Sammy-340793 ай бұрын
@@kghhgkgk6322 no no no no that is fase xbox has better media movie player it can play music cds it can do more stuff that ps5 cant do your just saying ps5 is better cuz u like sony its clear that xbox wins for a movie player
@kghhgkgk63223 ай бұрын
@@Sammy-34079 ...you're an insane person
@Sammy-340792 ай бұрын
@@kghhgkgk6322 nah ps5 is trash lg is better
@malarkey09493 жыл бұрын
And that is why my friends HDTVTest the best in the bizz.
@giggs_42083 жыл бұрын
I didn’t understand half of the info but someone really enjoyed the whole video
@RobertK19933 жыл бұрын
Sony should add Dolby Vision HDR for 4K Ultra HD Blu ray disc player and the streaming apps.
@gb28283 жыл бұрын
Sony's UBP-X800M2 Bluray/4K Ultra Bluray player DOES support Dolby Vision and handles it's beautifully !!
@vincevirtua3 жыл бұрын
@@gb2828 but people already have ps5 though, why needlessly get another box when ps5 could be updated easily.
@shlooky3 жыл бұрын
A console requires a dedicated chip to support Dolby Vision which is lacking on both the PS5 and XBOX Series X. it is possible to add Dolby Vision support via a firmware update to devices with sufficiently powerful processors. I'd rather buy a dedicated player and wait for the PS5 Pro :)
@tchib451303 жыл бұрын
Maybe match with vrr update, 32 to 48gbps, i hope.
@willdejong77633 жыл бұрын
@@shlooky I have to think that both the PS5 and the Xbox Series X must have "sufficiently powerful processors" to playback Dolby Vision. They've got to be more powerful than the chips used in TVs, right?
@feilon243 жыл бұрын
You are an expert! This is a very rigorous comparison between PS5 and XBOX-X in terms of Bluray 4K playback. The details and resolution of this comparison are not petty. They are important. The advantage you show for one machine over another, can make a difference on overall user experience when watching Bluray 4K discs. I find your videos very educational, even to me (and I am not a beginner in AV). Thanks !
@playnvanilla51763 жыл бұрын
I have thought of buying the PS5 just a few hours ago to also have the handy UHD Blu-ray playback. Now you publish this video. Vincent, are you a mind reader?
@sheldonpetrie37063 жыл бұрын
the PS5 was my first 4KUHD bluray player. I only have a very limited number of discs but it has been an enjoyable upgrade from bluray.
@Mike_v_E3 жыл бұрын
Buy a dedicated player instead
@NBGTFO3 жыл бұрын
Please don't buy from a scalper.
@ryankwan19343 жыл бұрын
@@Mike_v_E My man. Panasonic, Oppo, Pioneer or GTFO.
@Mike_v_E3 жыл бұрын
@alak58 there are other Panasonic players
@E_Sunbro3 жыл бұрын
I guess my question is, can Microsoft fix this via a system update?
@azulinno3 жыл бұрын
No
@liaminwales3 жыл бұрын
Sony has done well with the CD,DVD,Blu ray playback over the gens so im not surprised they got it right.
@geiers60133 жыл бұрын
I mean it is not perfect like a premium 4k blu-ray player, but miles ahead of the Xbox like in many other aspects as well.
@loco35143 жыл бұрын
@@geiers6013 will you be able to notice while watching the same movie on the same tv (first the ps5 and then via the panasonic)?
@geiers60133 жыл бұрын
@@loco3514 I dont think so. You would have to change the Tv input to another hdmi port. It would just take like 1 second or so on a good Tv.
@nick16353 жыл бұрын
They don't support Dolby Vision so they didn't really get it right. A standalone player is still better.
@geiers60133 жыл бұрын
@@nick1635 Oh I forgot that. With this in mind I wouldnt recommend the ps5 blu-ray player at all.
@jamesrobinson20863 жыл бұрын
wait... if every 42 seconds the X-Box dropped a frame and ended up 1 frame ahead of the PS5.. how does that effect audio sync.. and does it build to a point where the playback visibly stutters to reset and resync?
@widowmakerx73 жыл бұрын
Probably some AV fingerprinting
@HegoDamaskII3 жыл бұрын
I watched both Star Trek into darkness and the Dark Knight on both my PS5 and Series X on my C9 OLED and the PS5 was noticeably better.
@TwistedSoul20023 жыл бұрын
Cheeky flex
@naderzein24353 жыл бұрын
You are the best in the business Vincent. I have a series X but now I'm glad I decided to also buy a Sony X800M2 as my dedicated Bluray player.
@darkdraconis3 жыл бұрын
Sadly microsoft never had a big focus on its player. Very little marketing and RnD money goes into the player.
@beavis4play3 жыл бұрын
i think you made a good move. i have a ps5 but i never liked using my game console for my blu player. so i've got a blu player for my movies.
@naderzein24353 жыл бұрын
@@darkdraconis Agreed. The lifted black issue and my suspicion that even though it'll get Dolby Vision for games i don't believe it will for blurays made my decision easy. Vincent's video just makes me feel better about the choice now too.
@naderzein24353 жыл бұрын
@@beavis4play Same here, image quality aside I just don't like the UI for blurays on consoles and also I'd have to switch my tv from game mode to the best picture quality mode etc etc.
@beavis4play3 жыл бұрын
@@naderzein2435 👍😉
@Calibr213 жыл бұрын
Does the frame skip result in audio sync issues?
@marcuscole87963 жыл бұрын
Good question...
@dagbman3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Atlas-hu9wk3 жыл бұрын
Maybe but perhaps most of us probably won't notice it.
@hansiangng28083 жыл бұрын
I have the same question. I thought by skipping the frame is dropped. Else imagine the audio delay after 100mins..
@UltraCasualPenguin3 жыл бұрын
@@hansiangng2808 So, you can continue skipping for 100 minutes and there's still movie for you to watch? What are you watching? The Last Jedi?
@tiborhorvath17023 жыл бұрын
I honestly didn't notice a difference 😆 I still prefer movies on the Series X rather than my PS5... preferably because of the interface.. I don't like how when you press play on the PS5 it has that stupid sideways triangle symbolizing play and it takes up the entire middle of the screen.
@thedarksideoftheforce665811 ай бұрын
Sony has been letting Microsoft lease the use of blu rays in their consoles for years. This makes zero sense. Sony owns it.
@thedarksideoftheforce665811 ай бұрын
Microsoft pays Sony a license fee to use it. They have been for years. So if course Microsoft is using the same blu Ray as PlayStation. I don't think this guy knows that.
@55992511 ай бұрын
I had issues with some specific discs on the series x. PS5 read them without any issue. I finally bought a 4k blu ray player tho, because non of the consoles support dolby vision.
@Pyke_3 жыл бұрын
can Xbox bluray playback be improved with software updates right?
@thebossman80s3 жыл бұрын
Did you find out
@pr0jectSkyneT3 жыл бұрын
Excellent work. I don't say this lightly but it continually impresses me how much attention to detail and great the content this channel puts out.
@RSx943 жыл бұрын
The Fifth Element was one of my favorite childhood movies. I played the PS1 game version and one day I remember I saw a trailer for the movie on TV and went completly banans.
@thephilosopher57993 жыл бұрын
Yes great movie.
@4rzaluz Жыл бұрын
We need an update regarding BD capabilities of the consoles in 2023..!
@viktoryenibahar50233 жыл бұрын
Great review as always! Much appreciated. Would you pls consider a comparison between PS5 and Panasonic DP-UB9000 Blu-ray player? I am curious how much of a difference there is and if the price difference is justified, especially given the versatility of the PS5. Thanks!
@dubster823 жыл бұрын
Considering the cost of the 9000 vs the ps5 I'd actually like to see the ps5 compared against a more budget Panasonic effort like the 820. In fact if Vincent did a video comparing something like the 820 vs a 9000 to show what the diferences are on the cash scale of dedicated players that would be cool.
@bearlycamping3 жыл бұрын
@@dubster82 if you don't need Dolby vision, get the Panasonic ub420. Great price and I'm blown away by the picture. HDR optimizer works the same as the 820.
@wking83 жыл бұрын
I'd also say if you aren't using the XLR outputs in the 9000, just get the 820.
@loco35143 жыл бұрын
@@wking8 what are those xlr outputs?
@wking83 жыл бұрын
@@loco3514 They are the 3 pronged inputs you usually see in passive speakers. The main reason is they produce less noise when having to do long runs, but since most people have their theater equipment relatively close to each other its not usually needed in home Audio. I have the 9000 and love it, but yeah, if you don't care about the build quality or the xlrs, the 820 is pretty close to matching.
@punchline39883 жыл бұрын
Very thorough. I appreciate the time and effort you put into giving your viewers an accurate comparison. Nicely done. Go Sony!
@Sammy-340793 ай бұрын
Very thorough. I appreciate the time and effort you put into giving your viewers an accurate comparison. Nicely done. Go Microsoft!
@punchline39883 ай бұрын
@@Sammy-34079 😂 Touche
@chadalancarroll3 жыл бұрын
The Xbox Blu Ray Player app was just updated, perhaps some of these issues have been resolved?
@friendlyaaron90213 жыл бұрын
I think they fixed the lost frames. It's in the new patch notes: news.xbox.com/en-us/2021/06/03/xbox-insider-release-notes-alpha-2106-210602-0000/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
@Sammy-340793 ай бұрын
xbox has better media movie player it can play music cds it can do more stuff that ps5 cant do your just saying ps5 is better cuz u like sony its clear that xbox wins for a movie player
@granhustle3 жыл бұрын
I watched from beginning to end. This was an AWESOME video. Thank you so much.
@kabes-us3 жыл бұрын
Can you compare external streamers like Apple TV against the built in apps that come with the TVs? For example, Netflix on Apple TV vs Netflix on a Sony A9G/A8H.
@jonathanb38863 жыл бұрын
I'd like this too. I have sony a9g and nvidia shield with ps5.
@R6ex3 жыл бұрын
Guess I should be glad that I'm just a "casual viewer". 😜
@yoltsbp3 жыл бұрын
Why do you have a honda in your picture if you like yamaha so much? XD
@R6ex3 жыл бұрын
@@yoltsbp It's not the Honda that I like, but Mark Marquez. R6 is my favorite road bike but I ride a Triumph Daytona 675 coz it's way cheaper here.
@yoltsbp3 жыл бұрын
@@R6ex damn i feel your pain xD
@R6ex3 жыл бұрын
@@yoltsbp Same "pain" as the "happily" married guy with marriage-remorse every time a PYT walks past. 😅
@yoltsbp3 жыл бұрын
@@R6ex lol
@emmanuelguerrero30713 жыл бұрын
Great content as usual Mr. Vincent. Would you consider the UB820 visually on par with the UB9000? Thanks!
@hdtvtest3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@emmanuelguerrero30713 жыл бұрын
@@hdtvtest I thought it would be, at least visually. You are the best around; thanks for the reply!
@dubster823 жыл бұрын
@@hdtvtest well that half answers an earlier question I posted here. What makes the 9000 better than the 820? GUI and user experience?
@emmanuelguerrero30713 жыл бұрын
@@dubster82 A couple of things warrant the higher price from what I can tell. The build quality for one is much better in the 9000, also the analog sound output is superior if you require or prefer analog. Beyond that with the ub9000 you also get extra smaller features and configurations for those who may need it. Personally I run audio through a nice amp already and so I am not so much in need of the analog sound out from the either of the two Blu-ray players. In this case the ub820 was great for me.
@jeromevet0073 жыл бұрын
Would this problem be something that Microsoft could fix with a software update ?
@flipwarrior3 жыл бұрын
The developers don’t have their tools yet. They should have it soon, by the time PS6 releases.
@geoemm3 жыл бұрын
Don't hold your breath. If it's a windows problem it will never get fixed.
@robertt93423 жыл бұрын
They can fix it, but whether they will, who knows. I do wonder if the OneS/X have the same issues?
@lolerie3 жыл бұрын
It is mandatory to support both of of ftamerates, integer and not.
@alexperez15193 жыл бұрын
Probably not, in comparison xbox one X has the exact same problem till this day.
@nitroxylictv5 ай бұрын
At least I can play CD's at full 48khz on the Series X. The PS5 physically can not read CD's as it doesnt have the hardware and will probably never have that ability in future generations. As a musician the Series X was a better option for me. The issues for BlueRay playback on the X could definitely be fixed by a simple software update, which judging by the age of this video, it probably already happened. (Though I cant check for myself as I do not own DVD's currently).
@Sammy-340793 ай бұрын
xbox series x has a better blu-ray player dude! better media player it has bing and it can play music cds it has better color then shit ps5!
@byronwellburn3 жыл бұрын
In Vincent we trust
@gabeconstanza153 жыл бұрын
If Sony wasn't better at Blu-ray I would be really disappointed
@joesipr3 жыл бұрын
and games and controls and design😂
@SusmahShaat3 жыл бұрын
@@joesipr PS5 design is hideous tho imo
@zombeat73763 жыл бұрын
Me too. I love sony. All my stuff is sony.
@stuartcaffrey29493 жыл бұрын
@@SusmahShaat you'd prefer a black box that looks like an office bin?
@SusmahShaat3 жыл бұрын
@@stuartcaffrey2949 Yes I do.
@eespinosa6410 ай бұрын
Great video, Vincent. Very informative. Now, if I can only get the PS5 to stop choking on my brand new Spiderman: Into the Spider Verse 4K Blu-ray Disc. I've yet to get through that disc without the movie freezing and slowing down. It becomes unwatchable. I haven't seen any solutions online, yet. I only own 2 4K Blu-ray discs, but I refuse to buy any more until this issue is fixed. IF it can be fixed
@LiquidSnake24243 жыл бұрын
It’s nice to see someone that actually tested people’s opinions and didn’t just make a video after drinking a beer and staring at a screen for five minutes to determine that one system is better than the other.
@WhyplayGaming3 жыл бұрын
How does the skip resolve the sound? Does the sound get skipped too
@Blag_Cog3 жыл бұрын
Because the sound is calibrated at a different rate. So when the frame skips it resyncs with the sound.
@qiuboujun3 жыл бұрын
you get a weird pop noise when a frame is skipped. It took me a while to figure what went wrong. I legit thought my speaker was at fault. Turns out it was my brain :(
@MrPancrasio0073 жыл бұрын
Great video Vincent as always. I have a few questions. Does this superior chroma resolution in high frequencies have any perceivable effects in real-life content? Would the PS5 12-bit signal's smoother color gradation benefit 8-bit (SDR) content as well? If a player gives you both fps options, 24 and 23.97, would setting the 23.97 option be the best case scenario with non-Studio-Canal catalog? Can 24hz output introduce any anomaly to 23.97hz content?
@sinchman13 жыл бұрын
The Fifth Element wasn't filmed in 4K so it's not native this is just checkerboard rendering upscale.
@Snuffelupikis3 жыл бұрын
4K UHD discs are 10bit 4:2:0 . What advantage is there to the PS5 outputting 12bit 4:4:4 with UHD discs?
@jerchongkong53873 жыл бұрын
being able to brag to others why PS is better than an Xbox
@MLWJ19933 жыл бұрын
I guess that could make people feel better at it not compressing on top of already compressed source material (even if that wouldn't be the case anyway) 🤔
@GamePaddyPat3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was wainting for this. Thanks!
@sinchman13 жыл бұрын
Waiting for what this video is nonsense.
@DayDream_EDITS2 жыл бұрын
@@sinchman1 shut up xbox fanboy
@douubledog40083 жыл бұрын
Vincent Did you reach out to M$ to ask them for an explanation?
@samdenisse27053 жыл бұрын
They're using the same Blue-Ray player found in their cheap Xbox One S in 2016.
@ortonfanwwe57414 ай бұрын
I heard with ps5 you dont need internet just to play blu ray xbox requires internet just to use the app thats 1 ps5 advantage
@Sammy-340793 ай бұрын
xbox series x has a better blu-ray player dude! better media player it has bing and it can play music cds it has better color then shit ps5!
@StabbyMcBlade3 жыл бұрын
So the ps5 beats the world's most powerful console again...again.
@bogdanbatura19703 жыл бұрын
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@StabbyMcBlade3 жыл бұрын
@@bogdanbatura1970 and I'm not even a Sony fan boy, I have the series x...😂
@quicksandbuddy3 жыл бұрын
I usually watch my movies on my Series X, so I guess I’ll start using my PS5 from now on. Thanks!
@thepizzaelf3 жыл бұрын
Your flexing on us who have neither yet lol
@arjanvink93613 жыл бұрын
If you own both of these consoles you must try to watch movies via Amazon Prime. The ps5 is so dark when streaming movies its just bad. The Series X do this so much better. My tv set up :Samsung qe55q9fn.
@shadowfallenable2 жыл бұрын
Yeah m2.
@giogamer48253 жыл бұрын
Dont forget that the Ps5 cannot due Dolby Vision on UHD discs, just a reminder if you do have a tv that support Dolby Vision
@richellebrittain21273 жыл бұрын
Neither does the XSX, though it reportedly supports DV in streaming apps. DV & HDR10+ enthusiasts definitely need standalone UHD players that support them depending on discs & TV.
@giogamer48253 жыл бұрын
@@richellebrittain2127 I agree. But, Microsoft did mention that they will add DV later on for gaming, as Sony Ps5 no mention at all about DV, so be sure that for Sony it will not happen.
@Spook2312 Жыл бұрын
And who's best for HD Blurays? And should the video output be set to 1080P?
@mrmaestrom3 жыл бұрын
Just spent way too much money on a dedicated 4K Blu Ray player, rather than spending a tiny bit more on a console which can do everything. I want to watch 4k discs in the absolute best quality. Thanks for making me feel better about my purchase!
@mn34383 жыл бұрын
Me with ps5 digital edition watching this video. 😂
@levelperfecto3 жыл бұрын
hey, at least we got ps5.
@AgedYouth683 жыл бұрын
You got a real laugh out of me, thanks.
@GoogleUsedToLetThisNameBeLong3 жыл бұрын
My PS5 gets here on the 18th from the February 4th Walmart drop disc version. Finally going to be over if I can get by the last hurdle of "Fed Ex driver steals it" phase.... Lol got a laugh out of me regarding watching this video while staring at your PS5 digital edition. Good times!
@MikeBisonTX3 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo I'm right there with you
@SonsOfLibertyV3 жыл бұрын
Digital = sh*t
@andreasschmidt94173 жыл бұрын
How good is the old Xbox One X BluRay Player compared to this?
@HegoDamaskII3 жыл бұрын
The Xbox Series X uses the exact same model 4k blu ray player as the One X.
@Boyer3163 жыл бұрын
Mine was atrocious, absolutely pot luck whether it would play a 4K disc without freezing.....
@lolerie3 жыл бұрын
@@HegoDamaskII that does not mean anything. Software can be very different.
@Boyer3163 жыл бұрын
@@lolerie From the results Vincent obtained and my own extensive experience with the Xbox One S and X, I feel pretty confident in saying that they've simply ported across the same crappy app they used on the last gen consoles. The first 4K disc I watched on my PS5 was Rogue One, I'd watched it multiple times on my One X and I could see the differences in motion handling, detail, highlights, colouring and HDR immediately.
@souljastation54633 жыл бұрын
I heard that it's bad too, even worse then the Series X
@ledooni3 жыл бұрын
If only the PS5 supported Dolby Vision it would be the perfect player for everyone who is not an absolute color enthusiast...
@Nachossl843 жыл бұрын
Sony, please!! PS5 needs Dolby Vision!!!
@romulofigueroadiaz4803 жыл бұрын
@@Nachossl84 fairly certain they have already confirmed it’s on the way
@EnlightenedSavage3 жыл бұрын
Sony continually updates the capabilities of their consoles when it comes to content. It will probably be the same for the ps5.
@tchib451303 жыл бұрын
Possible via update, maybe march with vrr
@Nachossl843 жыл бұрын
@@tchib45130 VRR is confirmed , but I didn't read that Dolby Vision will be in the update.
@Nob1ej0n3 жыл бұрын
This was very informative. I wonder how much of this can be patched, and whether it even will be.
@geiers60133 жыл бұрын
Sadly I cannot see the frame skipping, but I still 100% believe you Vincent. It is most likely because of youtube, but thanks to the good slow-mo you prooved it in a funny way haha.
@redi64603 жыл бұрын
He even slowed it down and after frame skip X Box was a bit ahead
@geiers60133 жыл бұрын
@@redi6460 Thats why I meant with time lapse whoopsie🤯
@steveb1008 Жыл бұрын
I have both consoles and I can tell you they are BOTH great 4k Blu Ray players. The difference is not noticeable.
@iExcaliburWorld Жыл бұрын
LOL PS5 has much quieter performance on high GB ULTRA HD Blu rays. Series x performs wonky when the disc is at 100GB rate. Therefore ps5 4k player is far superior and I own both consoles as well
@Lauencaffy_2903 ай бұрын
@@iExcaliburWorldNo way you're joking, right? The Xbox has a better media player. It's a lot quieter. The PlayStation is loud as f*** The fan was extremely loud. Also, the Xbox has more apps. Better media player with cds dvd bluray player And it has web browser that the shit 5 doesn't have.
@iExcaliburWorld3 ай бұрын
@@Lauencaffy_290 what ps5 do you have? I have the original ps5. And Xbox series x can’t handle a big GB 4K movie. Get the shining in 4k and play it on series x sometimes it freezes and skips on a specific scenes when I put the 4k disc on my ps5 it plays smoothly and much quieter than the series x. I also noticed ps5 upscales the movies better than the series x…
@Sammy-340793 ай бұрын
@@iExcaliburWorld I Have THaT PS5 WiTh ThE WiErd CuRbS. ItS sTupId AnD LoUD. XBoX iS BeTteR. I JuSt GoT ThE ShInInG 4k DVD, and it WoRkS GrEaT In My XbOx. nO FrEeZiNg Or sKiPpInG. I'M HaPPy WiTh My SeLeCtIoN, bUt ThAnKs FoR ThE AdViCe.
@Sammy-340793 ай бұрын
@@iExcaliburWorld also xbox has a better media player it has more apps and it can play all music cds that the shit 5 cant do so sony loses from xbox
@IrREZistible3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i remember i used my ps3 strictly for watching Blu-ray back when. And my 360 strictly for gaming. This go round I'll get the dedicated 4k Blu-ray player and my series x for gaming. Thanks for the vid.
@thephilosopher57993 жыл бұрын
Smart, what blu ray player are you looking at? Xbox Series blu ray player is pretty decent as my brother has it.
@IrREZistible3 жыл бұрын
@@thephilosopher5799 i got it too
@serjoka773 жыл бұрын
Well, it’s not about noticing it or not, it’s all about taking care of the details that makes the difference, having in mind customer satisfaction with minimum if no compromise at all.
@curtisbme3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Hopefully the msft folks that corrected the black level issue after your last video take action after this one. Frustrating that they have issues out of the gate on this stuff as they should at a minimum be running the Spears & Munsil disc and tweaking until perfect. Spears was a MSFT employee that worked on a lot of their video technology FFS.
@fbenniks3 жыл бұрын
Could you remark on the noice of the drives? My xbox one S makes alot of noice when playing UHD
@romulofigueroadiaz4803 жыл бұрын
The PS5 is virtually completely quiet, it does speed up at times but for 2-3 seconds and it does so maybe twice during a movie
@Braconara19813 жыл бұрын
I have noticed the micro stutter a few months back while watching the 5th Element on series X, as of a month ago I don't anymore, MS must have took care of the issue, can anyone confirm?
@jerryhernandez24943 жыл бұрын
I had a feeling my PS5 was better at playing back 4k blue ray then my series x. That’s why I bought the media remote for it. Thanks for reassuring my gut instinct.
@marcuscole87963 жыл бұрын
Fantastic and well presented analysis ! Thanks ... Now I hope some responsible guys at Microsoft will watch this and get the budget to fix these issues plus adding Standard DV support to the Xbox soon ... Although ... if they do, it might result in a negative effect on new dedicated player releases.
@derechtechazz3 жыл бұрын
Was hoping for this comparison, thanks Vincent you’re the best 😌
@LeonardoMuniz3 жыл бұрын
Sony is much more careful in technical quality and following technical standards as close as they can than Microsoft. For Microsoft, if it works, it's good to go. For Sony, if it works like a dream, than it's good to go.
@krob88232 жыл бұрын
Which is why I prefer Japanese electronics in general.
@Sammy-340793 ай бұрын
xbox has better media movie player it can play music cds it can do more stuff that ps5 cant do your just saying ps5 is better cuz u like sony its clear that xbox wins for a movie player
@mauler773 жыл бұрын
I'm getting audio lag from the Disney + app on my PS5 and can't fix it on my amp. All other streaming apps seem fine. Is this the same for everyone? Also no 4K from Disney which sucks.
@sixdroid3 жыл бұрын
buttery smooth on Xbox and works good including 4k
@redi64603 жыл бұрын
Ask disney
@jctai1003 жыл бұрын
Excellent work Vincent. I too hope a comparison if it's worth it to get a UB9000 vs a PS5 now.
@thephilosopher57993 жыл бұрын
Not a fair comparison but I assume that’s why you want to see it. I’m actually thinking of getting the UB9000.
@Krisgebis3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thorough work with this. Hopefully your video can help push MS and Sony to make their players even better. Especially the Xbox.
@blueflamet293 жыл бұрын
Hey Vincent. Awesome work as always! I was wondering if you were still planning on showing comparison and in-depth footage on the PS5’s forced HDR implementation especially on SDR games? There’s a lot of misinformation out there about it and was hoping an expert such as yourself could shed some light on it. Much appreciated.
@blueflamet293 жыл бұрын
@Multidimensional Entity yeah, I make sure to do that but there’s people who think using HDR Auto with SDR games looks better when it most likely is messing with the picture. It’d also be interesting to see these findings from Vincent.
@blueflamet293 жыл бұрын
@Multidimensional Entity yeah I’ve heard the same about the two console’s different approaches. I wouldn’t say PS5’s implementation is terrible, but going without it on SDR games is generally better looking.
@sherry3562 жыл бұрын
It's almost October 2021 now. Has anything improved on the Series X since this video? (with regards to playing blu-ray content)
@Patrick-tw7nr3 жыл бұрын
I’ll stick with my Sony X800 M2 4K player for movies and my PS5 for games. Both play to their strengths.
@davidlqs3 жыл бұрын
Now if I could just get my hands on a PS5....
@stompkiller63703 жыл бұрын
Dont know how you all didnt find one yet
@itscass91533 жыл бұрын
@@stompkiller6370 Because of scalpers. And most people won't pay $1k+ on a console. I can wait lol
@kc-me6wl3 жыл бұрын
Lucky to having both consoles and having spent some time with both Blu-ray players, I also prefer the Blu-ray UI on the PS5 - looks more polished and easier to navigate
@jamieslater89913 жыл бұрын
Lucky for you. I own both Consoles but my PS5 Disc drive doesn't work when playing 4k blu ray/blu ray & DVDs. Sometimes the picture comes on with the background sounds, but I can't hear the vocals, when the Actors are speaking. Sometimes its the opposite way round, & even better, the Picture comes on with actually no sound at all. So I've been using my Xbox Series X with my LG C9 & it looks good. My PS5 is definitely getting returned when this lockdown in the UK 🇬🇧 is sorted. Its kinda strange, because I can play Game's perfectly on my PS5. They look Awesome. So I don't understand whats going on. 🥺
@alexfirth213 жыл бұрын
@@jamieslater8991 I would call in a repair. But yeah after the pandemic, because PS5 supply is still scarce.
@HegoDamaskII3 жыл бұрын
@@jamieslater8991 Maybe an issue with the disk drive. My PS5 disc drive works perfectly.
@kc-me6wl3 жыл бұрын
@@jamieslater8991 yeh sorry to hear that! Seems like people are having random troubles with their PS5! Tbh I have had a fair few console crashes with my ps5 & i dare not touch ray tracing as heard issues with that! For gaming i prefer the SeriesX- console feels more stable tbh just hope Sony keep releasing meaningful patches!
@robertt93423 жыл бұрын
The Consoles should be viewed as a console first and budget UHD bluray player second, and then you get what you pay for.
@souljastation54633 жыл бұрын
They cost the same though, so you get less for your money with the Xbox
@alexperez15193 жыл бұрын
Also ps5 is outperforming the XSX in most AAA multiplats. So ps5 excels in both categories more than xbox.
@AndreasZetterlund3 жыл бұрын
What do you get on a "not budget UHD BR player" that you don't get on a ps5?
@C--A3 жыл бұрын
@@AndreasZetterlund lot's like analogue rca 7.1 outputs and SACD playback on my £699 Oppo UDP 203 ultra HD player. Plus Dolby Vision for movies which the consoles don't currently have.
@gasface883 жыл бұрын
@@souljastation5463 huh? You get much more power with the Xbox. Games haven't been made to take advantage yet. The consoles just came out, lol
@bearlycamping3 жыл бұрын
The Panasonic ub420 is a cheap no-brainer choice. Huge difference with the color saturation right off the bat, just no Dolby vision which is fine with me
@ToxMod3 жыл бұрын
You are really missing out on dolby vision.
@bearlycamping3 жыл бұрын
@@ToxMod For sure but my Epson 6050UB doesn't have DV but the HDR optimizer on this player is great
@dantasticmania87283 жыл бұрын
@@ToxMod Meh who cares ?To me hdr's biggest issues is it has way too many formats and who know how long it will be until there will just basically be one standard.format to help kill the confusion.The industry's changing rapidly and so is tech along with it In ten yrs Dolby vision might not even be a thing.
@2Drezik3 жыл бұрын
You're just the best tester. HDTVTest > all the others
@MrDarkSephirot3 жыл бұрын
Awesome effort Vincent. This is simply on another level.👏🏼 I wonder what's the reason why it's so hard to get them 100% bit perfect regarding colours. I assume it isn't limited to the Blu-Ray player app and will extend to any output from the HDMI, be it a game, Netflix or something else.
@infinityblablabla3 жыл бұрын
I think 4K apple TV has similar problem with the frame skipping though I'm not sure if it's 23.976Hz or 24Hz.
@The98xander3 жыл бұрын
Ps5 is a surprisingly good 4k blu ray player Now if only they patched in Dolby Vision support
@sixdroid3 жыл бұрын
yes they patch this, vrr and other with ps6 lol. you have all on Xbox right now.
@The98xander3 жыл бұрын
@@sixdroid i like both dude but ps5 has actual games
@MagisterHamid3 жыл бұрын
@@sixdroid fanboy detected
@sixdroid3 жыл бұрын
@@MagisterHamid no but it's true
@sixdroid3 жыл бұрын
@@TarunTechEnvironmentCC not for me and millions users
@franksidders47893 жыл бұрын
Thanks I needed this bc didn’t want to have to buy an extra dedicated blu ray player, my PS5 should do just fine.
@RyanLove063 жыл бұрын
I'm astounded by the depth of this analysis. Fantastic job!
@DonatoBattista2 жыл бұрын
Vincent, what about the loudness of the player when playing uhd bluray? It is acceptable?
@tristman84133 жыл бұрын
Since sony invented bluray...
@David-nd4to3 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t just Sony. Just to clear that misconception up
@David-nd4to3 жыл бұрын
Do your research then come back and apologise :). It was not just Sony who created the format.
@v.e.s28843 жыл бұрын
@@David-nd4to but Sony gats more money in two the companies so yeah it is there they put more into it then the other companies ever did so yeah it’s Sony
@David-nd4to3 жыл бұрын
@@v.e.s2884 just admit you’re wrong buddy
@tristman84133 жыл бұрын
@@David-nd4to I know
@CeePopCee3 жыл бұрын
Great great video. Thank you so much
@i407tv3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much this is just exactly what I was looking for!
@tannab0i3 жыл бұрын
Hi Vincent, when watching 4k HDR disc content through a Playstation 5 or Xbox Series X, whilst using an LG CX would you enable or disable Real cinema on the LG? Thanks
@hdtvtest3 жыл бұрын
Enable, because [Real Cinema] activates 5:5 pulldown.
@tannab0i3 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@Zen0sa3 жыл бұрын
very nice comparison :)
@Rcad763 жыл бұрын
Great video, Microsoft does it again. Seems like they not only struggle with framerates in games but blurays as well. How can a software company like Microsoft struggle on so many fronts? I have the series X and am annoyed.
@subjectivereviews3 жыл бұрын
True bro agreed but u still get fanboys denying this.
@alexfirth213 жыл бұрын
Because the blu-ray player isn’t priority. But in any case, PS5 isn’t that great either. My Panasonic is better than both. I also have both. True cinephiles will have a dedicated player for 4K blu-ray. Besides these are things that can be fixed. And Xbox handles Xbox not Microsoft directly.
@youuuuuuuuuuutube5 ай бұрын
Damn fantastic work that you did here!
@valoric47673 жыл бұрын
Why is it so hard to make a bluray player that just supports everything well? We didn't worry about this stuff with DVD players, did we?
@bryanmiller4763 жыл бұрын
Cuz dvds were just either 4.7gb or 8gb and ran at 8x speed but Blu-ray’s have 25gb or more and therefore has a lot of compressed data and runs at only 2x speed and really depends on processing of the device as well Think of it like this, dvds are like a book that’s got 4.7-8k pages, then you go to Blu-ray’s 25k pages but now not only is the story much longer but the words are way smaller and compacted per page so takes much longer to read it all and is much harder to do in the first place
@AchtungEnglander3 жыл бұрын
Shame as I was in the market for XSX. I knew they patched it up recently to fix true black, looks like another patch is now needed.
@jackreeves73 жыл бұрын
Not sure why anyone would get an xbox but that's just me
@sithhunter9653 жыл бұрын
JackGamer7 I know right, they got no games.
@lolerie3 жыл бұрын
Apple 4K also has the same issue.
@Kyt20243 жыл бұрын
@@jackreeves7 It's really very simple. Because it's a really good console, good value and not everyone enjoys playing games on their PC.
@jackreeves73 жыл бұрын
@@Kyt2024 which is why you do the smart thing and get ps5
@chihanlee5123 жыл бұрын
If you need numbers to tell you the difference then it’s not much of a difference.
@Dr.WhetFarts3 жыл бұрын
xbox owner detected
@xcrack63643 жыл бұрын
Why? 4k is 4k. It really boils down to how your tv displays the image and the settings it supports. The systems will output the image the same.
@hdtvtest3 жыл бұрын
Your statement is false without any scientific evidence to back it up. We have reproduced our findings on multiple high-end 2020 televisions, and used a capture device to analyse the HDMI outputs of both consoles, before arriving at the conclusion that the PS5 is simply better than the Xbox Series X for watching 4K Blu-rays.
@TheGreatMrBill3 жыл бұрын
Forget the color test. Why don't you please do a skipping or stability test and you will find what I have found. The PS5 is terrible at skipping with certain standard Blu-rays always in the same spot for some reason. Nothing physically wrong with the disc. I play them on the new Xbox or the old PS3 and they work flawlessly. So you tell me what's wrong with the new junkie PS5 player? Because I'm at a loss.
@YusufPiskin3 жыл бұрын
Sony is a film company, Sony is a music company, Sony is a software company. Why can't I combine game console and media console, I can't understand. No Cd / Sacd support. HDR is always on in applications (netflix, apple tv, amazon etc.). We cannot play games in their own audio format. This is very funny.
@SotNist3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean with the audio format for games? Genuine question. I'd like to know more.
@YusufPiskin3 жыл бұрын
@@SotNist Hi from Turkey... First of all I apologize for my English. There is pcm, dolbyx dts output in ps5 / ps4 settings. If one of these is selected, this is the whole sound output. For example, Uncharted 4 / Spider-Man doesn't have its own sound codec? I use Sony Amplifier. It's funny that all games have the same sound output. It's ridiculous that they don't have Dolby Atmos, but if it's Blu-ray and 4k Blu-ray. It's ridiculous not to get Dolby Atmos through apps (Netflix, Amazon, Apple tv + etc ..) for example: There is the Dolby Logo behind Pes 2019. I won't get Dolby sound when my settings are Dts or Pcm. When the sound and image are made 'upscale' or 'downscale', its originality deteriorates.
@SotNist3 жыл бұрын
@@YusufPiskin I understand. You can't select an audio preference without it overriding all audio formats. I noticed myself that audio won't perfectly sync with the speaker controller in Astro's Playroom unless I set the PS5 to PCM. Which takes away a lot of the spatial audio for my simple set up. I ended up just buying a headset that works on both Series X and PS5, so I don't have to keep checking audio format on the system, the TV, and then the speakers etc. So I kinda know what you mean.
@mimimimeow3 жыл бұрын
@@YusufPiskin it is for convenience. I know it is not optimal for enthusiasts but in the end 90% gamers just wanted things to work. Sony knows most HDR TV owners have terrible or mismatched SDR settings so in order to make SDR content closer to director's intention, they encapsulate all SDR content into HDR10. This does mean the peak brightness will always be around 300 nits, not very suitable for dark viewing, and colors will be skewed if the TV does not properly follow HDR PQ.
@richellebrittain21273 жыл бұрын
Different audio settings flow from different technical requirements for movies (both disc & streaming) vs. games. For Blu-ray, most new discs use lossless bitstreaming to save space on the disc and meet Dolby & DTS preferred specs; it's a requirement for immersive audio (Atmos or DTS:X) from discs. Streaming movies have even stricter bandwidth constraints, so they typically use lossy bitstreaming (DD, DD+ or DD+ Atmos; DTS generally doesn't do streaming). Games, OTOH, must generate sound in real-time; to avoid lagging they generally must output either uncompressed PCM or a lossy bitstream. (Except for maybe a streaming box or two, I don't know of ANY consumer hardware that can encode a lossless bitstream in real-time.) That's why Dolby created MAT/PCM Atmos originally for the Xbone X/S; it allows games to produce metadata for immersive audio elements while using uncompressed PCM for the elements themselves.
@MrJimmyjamesh3 жыл бұрын
What about no dolby atmos on ps5?
@hdtvtest3 жыл бұрын
The PS5 can pass Dolby Atmos via bitstream, as we've explained in an earlier video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZXWqXaqd8-Uick
@memphus Жыл бұрын
No DV on blurays on the Xbox pisses me off, especially because we get it for games and apps.
@nitroxide173 жыл бұрын
As an xbox fan... get your shit together MS. Hopefully these problems can be solved in software