PS5 WiFi 6 Speed Tests - Better that LAN or WiFi 5?

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MASSIVE DISCLAIMER - Hey Guys! I mention it in the intro, but in case you miss it, this test is done with a PS5 over WiFi 6, WiFi 5 and Wired RJ45 Ethernet. However, my ISP router+modem that interfaces with my incoming Intenet connection are a standard 1Gbe LAN enabled (few ISP routers are WiFi 6 or 2.5Gbe and above). Likewise, few WiFi 6 routers in the UK from 3rd Parties (Asus, Netgear, TP-Link, etc) have a cable interface for your Internet connection (favouring JUST standard WAN, which is the same interface as RJ45). The result is that you MUST see this test as an 'IN-HOUSE' experiment to show the performance benefits of WiFi 6 vs 5 vs Wired, but with the main modem being an ISP bottleneck of 109MB/s (1Gbe RJ45) between the ISP modem and the Asus RT-AX92U WiFi 6 Router. Make sure to keep that in mind when looking at the results and considering the Mbps, MB/s or mbps performance ratings.
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[@nascompares]

MASSIVE DISCLAIMER - Hey Guys! I mention it in the intro, but in case you miss it, this test is done with a PS5 over WiFi 6, WiFi 5 and Wired RJ45 Ethernet. However, my ISP router+modem that interfaces with my incoming Intenet connection are a standard 1Gbe LAN enabled (few ISP routers are WiFi 6 or 2.5Gbe and above). Likewise, few WiFi 6 routers in the UK from 3rd Parties (Asus, Netgear, TP-Link, etc) have a cable interface for your Internet connection (favouring JUST standard WAN, which is the same interface as RJ45). The result is that you MUST see this test as an 'IN-HOUSE' experiment to show the performance benefits of WiFi 6 vs 5 vs Wired, but with the main modem being an ISP bottleneck of 109MB/s (1Gbe RJ45) between the ISP modem and the Asus RT-AX92U WiFi 6 Router. Make sure to keep that in mind when looking at the results and considering the Mbps, MB/s or mbps performance ratings. You can find my full review of the Asus RT-AX92U WiFi 6 Router here on NASCompares - nascompares.com/2020/01/28/asus-rt-ax92u-wifi-6-mesh-review/ Alternatively, this is a 3 Part Review here on my KZbin Channel - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4ezp2Wdnd97hck

[@cameronlockard5935]

Great tip for getting to a 'browser'! Please correct me if I'm wrong (I may not be understanding the explanation), but the 1Gbe RJ45 connection betwen the ISP modem and the WiFi 6 router isn't actually presenting a bottleneck at all. That is, the tests are getting no where near 1000 Mbps. The bottleneck appears to be your Virgin service itself - which you said you thought was 50 Mbps.

[@rinkumultani6515]

dam this router is super expansive u showing in the video. and i was looking for something like this cheep i just wanted to know if it have good range Huawei WiFi AX3 DC WS7100-20 do know anything about it? thanks

[@TheDaleDalek]

Thanks for putting this video together, it's exactly what I was looking for

[@retrosimon9843]

For fiber you could also try a media converter. Little box that converts fiber signal into ethernet. But like in my case you may need to figure out and setup the VLANS in the router for internet and possibly voip and iptv. It's not hard but you need the correct information.

[@freakgib]

i would be more interested to know how low is the latency when for example using the Wifi 6 and direct connection to a future PSVR2 who maybe get an option for Wifi 6 would that be fast enough ? would it be possible for the PS5 to be connected to Lan to the internet and in the same time use the Wifi6 to make a direct connection to the PSVR2 As now it looks like the PSVR2 will use 1 cable using the USB port on the front of the PS5 but looks to me that an option for an upgrade box connected on the PSVR2 with Wifi6 would be possible.

[@ljonathan991]

How stable is the connection. I’m not too fussed about the speed side obviously being wired will cut down the stability issues but I’ve always wondered how that was on wifi6

[@steam_punk8279]

Can I use my frontier Wii fii 5 model nvg468mq, with a Linksys E7350? Trying to prove that frontier interent is capable with Wi-Fi 6 through the nvg468mq modem. After being on the phone they told me that they do not have a Wi-Fi 6 modem. Only wii fii 5 . Should I change my internet service?

[@TheDaleDalek]

Would love to hear more about Ethernet performance on PS5. I'm toying whether to go down the wired route or consider purchasing a wi-fi 6 modem. Any advice?

[@jacobbillups4715]

At least from my experience ~8 months with the PS5, the ethernet works great! I had so many problems both wired and wireless with my PS4/PS4 Pro that I was convinced that my ISP was throttling the connection. However, the PS5 has hit the advertised down and up speeds wired no issue. I just got a wifi 6 router straight from my isp and while I'm admittedly still trying to understand if its utilizing it correctly I've also had comparable wifi speeds to ethernet when fairly close to the router (other side of the room)

[@TheDaleDalek]

@@jacobbillups4715 amazing thanks for that info

[@TurboSpeedWiFi]

Ethernet is better because it is more stable and reduces your ping slightly.

[@cedarrose9309]

The bigger gain with the ethernet was the ping, 10ms faster is a big difference for gaming which is a load of small packets constant back and forth.

[@TurboSpeedWiFi]

The whole point is using ethernet for gaming is to reduce ping. Sony only recommends 5 Mbps of bandwidth. Anything more does not improve gaming performance. It is all about the ping and jitter.

[@JCourts2k23]

I tried a new PS5 Slim, and my house doesnt have any ethernet ports, and in my bedroom, i got between 100-171 at the most on a wifi 6 router, but on all my devices like my iPhone 15 Pro Max, Aplle Tv 4k, i got constant 374 mbps. I had constant problems it give me issues loading the store, if it did at times, it wouldnt load images, just squares with cracks through the middle. Or when i try to use the search to find a game, it would sorry couldnt find what your looking for. I got a new tv in the living room, thats next to the router, and im thinking of getting another PS4 again soon, and connecting it to a ethernet cable and see the difference.

[@DragoMorke]

It is unusual that the Speed degrades so much with wifi 5 since it should Support speeds much greater than that. Also for games not just the speed but the latency - thus the ping time and its variance (jitter) - is very relevant, specially in fps shooter/egame sports. Try wifi 5 over the router of your ISP or a dedicated wfi 5 router/access point. Those results might be interesting.

[@rsinistic]

Let's be honest, With the bandwidth you have, I don't see a point in you running wifi ax. Unless you sharing and streaming locally from a nas or something. I'm pushing 900Mb on my ax router.

[@TurboSpeedWiFi]

Very true, his internet connection speed is not very good at all.

[@nordskov55]

How was the latency when gaming wifi5 vs 6. Cant see any videos with it to see the difference. Got 1000mbit and wonder if i should upgrade to wifi6

[@chocolatemilk9102]

Whenever I do this speed test on my ps5 it lags and my speeds drop. I have a 1 gig connection

[@yoltsbp]

Why is wifi 5 only 21mbps? I get 480mbps on wifi 5......

[@JRowe95]

Even if wifi 6 was achieving more than 1Gbps makes no difference, that wireless access point is only going to have 1 Gbps uplink

[@mindzoid]

When testing you should confirm both wifi 5 and 6 are connecting via the 5 gigahertz band. My PS5 was set to automatic and chose 2.4 gigahertz on my Nest WiFi router (wifi 5). This band has a lot of interference and dramatically impacted my performance. I had to manually set it to use 5 gigahertz.

[@TurboSpeedWiFi]

That is interesting. Most routers automatically force devices to the 5 Ghz band if possible.

[@helljumper115]

I switched to 5Ghz on my PS5 and the download speed and upload speed is fast but when I play online I get constant lag spikes in games

[@higherho1540]

You’re network is not setup correctly. If you have a 1Gbpe connection and only get 100Mbps over Wi-Fi 6 (Wireless AX) then you need to tweak your settings. For example, to get those fast speeds, you need to ensure your Wi-Fi 5ghz and 6ghz bands are using 160Mhz and nothing lower (80,40,20 will cap you greatly). Then beam forwarding helps as well to include MU-MIMO. Sadly PS5’s wireless card is only 2X2 MU-MIMO and only support 80mhz bandwidth channel (which really sucks, why Sony =/). Because of this, it will be very difficult for the PS5 to reach anywhere near 1Gbe speeds over Wi-Fi. Heck, I get 700Mbps over Wireless AC on the 160mhz bandwidth channel on my laptop. AX has the capacity to go higher.

[@theuncanspan]

The fiber wires used by Saudi Telecom (STC) is a 4 core SM fiber wire, is that compatible with WiFi 6 But that really is virtually useless for two main reasons: 1) the ISP offers a maximum of 500 Mbps speed (0.5 Gbps) not even a true Gigabit internet 2) The PlayStation network needs a serious server restructuring because it's not utilizing whatever speed you're subscribed to and that is its weakest link.

[@micha8469]

The only reliable test is: start downloading a game, start timer, stop when downloading ends, divide size in MB/GB and time in seconds, you get MB/s or GB/s. The built-in test is pure shit, it shows way lower values than real downloading (games, patches etc.) usually gets. Can easily say that WiFi 5Ghz speed is capable of >200Mb/s based on games downloading. Haven't tested out again since changed to 500Mb/s but I'll give it a try soon. It's definitely enough to have comfortable delete & redownload approach.

[@micha8469]

I tested it a bit. 1) WiFi 5 ~320Mb/s 2) Ethernet ~440Mb/s Pings are the same. Can't test WiFi 6 for now, PS5 has to many issues with it and almost none speed increase, not worth it to buy WiFi6 router atm

[@TurboSpeedWiFi]

@@micha8469 That is about best case. Sony throttles downloads to speeds less than what WiFi 6 or gigabit ethernet can handle anyways.

[@chrisbullock6477]

I have the ASUS GT-AXE1100 wifi 6 router for my Gigabit internet router. Me and my wife have Google Pixel 6 phones that are able to get on wifi 6 band a well as my PC, but I can't get my PS5 to recognize the wifi 6 band. No one on youtube can seem to give a straight answer as to how to do this only information about alot of stuff people already know.

[@1king_kat908]

Any updates on this? I was considering buying the AXE11000. I would definitely want to take advantage of the wifi 6 on my ps5

[@WarpedTrekker]

Those are pretty slow speeds. Unfortunately both the PS5 and Xbox Series X have poor WiFi chips in them. You may get up to 150Mb-200Mb but that is it. I installed a LAN cable on both, and now get my full rated 600Mb/s download speeds from Fiber internet connection.

[@Sweatedsiren895]

Ethernet is fast and Reliable , stay away with WiFi

[@TurboSpeedWiFi]

It appears that his ISP is limiting him to 100 Mbps.

[@higherho1540]

Your statement is partially false. Yes the wi-if cards are not great (no support for 160mhz channel, no 4X4 MU-MIMO are some key factors). However, your statement about 200Mbps is wrong, this system can get up to 600 easily enough, you just need to ensure that 80mhz channel on wireless AX is not too congested.

[@Chief997]

This just seems like an advertisement against the Asus router. With my wifi5 unifi network I don't lose anywhere near the bandwidth he is losing on wifi5.

[@erikhillebrand99]

Are you really testing wifi 6 with a 100 mbit/s? Wifi 4 could almost reach that. Man… you would need a 1gbit/s speed from your provider to present meaningful results here. My mobile internet is faster.

[@nascompares]

I do highlight this, yes. But plus Gigabit internet speeds are not that common yet. I will be running this test again on a 5G & WiFI 6 mobile router soon (1.5Gb connection and coverage). Stay tuned for that. Also, final point. This is about WiFi 6 connectivity and PS5. If you can WiFi 5 (A/C/N), then regardless of your ISP speed, over WiFi, you'd hit the bottleneck. This is about WiFi 6 Vs 5... And whether it is a suitable alternative to LAN

[@TurboSpeedWiFi]

@@nascompares Gigabit internet speeds are extremely common. It doesn't matter for gaming anyways. Gaming requires no more than 5 Mbps and Sony even throttles downloads in most cases to less than 100 Mbps anyways.

[@waalex11]

Didn't bother verifying your settings, but... If you want to optomize your PS5 to the maximum. Assuming your wifi can at least do 1GB, including upload speed, more or less. Changing the wifi 6 bandwidth to 160mhz, or at least 80mhz, ideally at the furthest channel range, with a cat8 ethernet cable connected to the PS5, would potentially reach the maximum speeds that the ps5 can get to, from its 1gb cap.

[@marksapollo]

You do not need a cat 8 cable, a cat 5 cable will hit 1 gb up to a certain length. Cat 8 is designed for 10GB speeds.

[@Zie2279]

81.9mbps for downlod and also 9.1mbps is enough for ps5

[@TurboSpeedWiFi]

It is way more than enough. 5 Mbps upload and download is all that Sony recommends as a minimum. Gaming does not require a lot of bandwidth.

[@jamison74]

lol! WTF is a “rooter”? Are you trying to say router? Like it is spelled R-O-U-T-E-R because it ROUTES not roots 🙄

[@bjunior30]

Why is my ps5 not detecting my 6ghz network?

[@rozi9451]

Same bro, did u find a fix since then?

[@bjunior30]

@@rozi9451 no bro, i think its bacause the ps5 still doesnt support 6ghz networks, hopefully we can get that soon

[@kujinsan26]

Because 6ghz is Wifi6E not Wifi6. Wifi6 uses 5Ghz band

[@rozi9451]

@@kujinsan26 yeah im retarded my bad

[@dianebellot128]

This is a good question for your ISP provider. Sounds like you need a better modem. Companies not investing in good modems these days, but charge a great deal of money for crap.

[@Zvn1c]

My PS5 cannot even pick up the 6g... I'm on 5g. My laptop picks up the 6g but not PS5.

[@angelatorres1290]

I just found out ps5 and new Xbox doesn’t support 6e and they just upgraded my router and haven’t been able to play for days on my ps5 but it works on my ps4 idk

[@mikros2430]

Ps5 supports WIFI 6 ​@@angelatorres1290

[@cleverja]

that ps5 wifi chip is weak, something is wrong

[@Sweatedsiren895]

Doesn’t Matter , stick with ethernet cable

[@TurboSpeedWiFi]

It is fine. The issue is the way Sony throttles downloads from their servers.

[@Real.384]

@@TurboSpeedWiFi I don't think sony throttles

[@TurboSpeedWiFi]

@@Real.384 Of course they do. As do most online services. They do not have the bandwidth to send downloads at max speed all the time. Depending on how many people are downloading at the same time your speeds will vary greatly. Sony, just like anybody else hosting downloads, has to ration their bandwidth based on how many people are using it. This is not unique to Sony.

[@nguyengiaphu8868]

In my opinion, the best connection is LAN. It is fastest

[@nascompares]

Yes, it is....for now. As WiFi 6 and WiFi 6E become ubiquitous, if your PS5 is in close proximity to your router, AX WiFi allows 1.2Gb, higher than 1Gbe LAN... with the potential for higher. Then it is a case for ISPs to start to challenge gigabit internet speeds with more affordability and availability... So yeah, 1Gbe LAN/RJ45 is faster today...but 2-3years from now, the network landscape may be a great deal more evolved

[@retrosimon9843]

@@nascompares what about latency ?

[@asbjrngyring5755]

@@nascompares Well that is assuming, the wifi adapter in the PS5 can use the full range speed, also this is only true for a PS5 as its ethernet port is seemingly only rated for up to 1000BASE-T (1 Gbit). But other devices like a PC wich has 2.5 Gbit (which alot of the mid-to-high end motherboards have now), or even 10 Gbit ethernet will always be objectively faster that Wifi 6. IMO, the main advantage of wifi 6 is really the subchannelling, which finally eliminates channel cross-talk/interference.

[@TurboSpeedWiFi]

@@retrosimon9843 WiFi is nowhere as good when it comes to latency.

[@TurboSpeedWiFi]

@@nascompares WiFi 6 will likely never exceed the speed of 1 Gbe. Best case real world tests for WiFi 6 show about 800 Mbps and even that is pushing it. More common is about 500 Mbps. The speeds stated as max with WiFi are not real world speeds. Ethernet is now available in 2.5 and 10 gig speeds.

[@GrAPeBombZ]

Dont play MW2 on Wi-Fi. Ethernet all the way