PSA: The War Within Timewalking Is Absurdly Good

[@BellularGaming]

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[@xpCarlo36]

GUILD BANKS ARE *STILL* BROKEN guild-bank-missing-items-what-happened ON THE US FORUMS OVER 2K REPLIES AND NO BLUE POST -- IT HAS BEEN *SIX WEEKS* NOW

[@ryvyr]

The non-adsense was just a bit too far into video for mood to set in so I skipped, otherwise gladly watch through them when very early in/at very back

[@espen116]

if you want timewalking to go even faster , " Feast of the Midnight Masquerade " currently gives 200 bonus stats when well fed in BT , that is twice the amount of what you have when you get scaled down. Yes it is OP , yes it might get fixed , no you wont be banned and for sure your BT runs will be 20 min if everyone eats it . Enjoy and have fun.

[@dss-homemadestuff8580]

Blizzard THREAT DETECTED: : : "Enjoy and have fun". Solution: Call the Fun police, NERF NERF NERF: : :

[@Sttreg]

For some reasons I haven't had the same experience. In all my time walking dungeons, the tank was walking without stopping and was almost one shooting everything. It was to the point I couldn't never attack because I could never reach him, as he was never stopping. He was basically soloing the dungeon and not dying

[@MultiKoliber]

XDDD

[@DrPluton]

I'm just bummed about level 80s getting 554 gear that can't be upgraded from the dungeons.

[@G82Jesse]

Yeah it's completely useless. You can full-gear any level 80 with green BOEs from the action house. All 558s baseline for 300-400g per item slot.

[@itsallgoodies2501]

Yup only collect them to disenchant em

[@swcrusader]

@@itsallgoodies2501 I did, and they disenchant to Burning Crusade enchanting items, not TWW. I was irked.

[@Grromasz]

@@itsallgoodies2501 don't disenchant them, they disenchant into tbc mats, you are better off vendoring them.

[@backgroundsoundmusic3078]

Gear is that easy to get this expac, certainly nothing to be upset about

[@JoshuaTindel]

Most tanks don’t know about the funky scaling and then instantly pull all of Ramparts as soon as they zone in. 🙄

[@NexxusLIVE]

Had a Druid get one shot by the wolf pets. Just one.

[@yournamethere123]

“Can’t make a big pull without the healer watching the tanks health” I fucking hope he’s watching his health that’s his whole damn job.

[@glenneric1]

and a fun job it is 🙄

[@s.armitage3963]

Nope, they complained that tanks didn't need them enough, got the tanks nerfed, and now they ignore the whole party and try to dps so the party can wipe every other pull.

[@xDjembex]

​@@s.armitage3963 sure "they" do. That's why no one completes dungeons or beats raid bosses anymore. WoW is finished.

[@flecht]

​@@s.armitage3963 The problem with current scaling is that as a healer you have nothing to do until you suddenly have to react, so your reaction is too slow and you end up overwhelmed. It wouldn't happen to me on my pally or shammy, but I can easily imagine it on any other healer I am not accustomed to. As I see it, the game currently does really bad job in case of teaching you the ropes of tank or healer when you are a freshman. You either end with too easy or too difficult. IMO Classic is much better in that regard.

[@sbowesuk981]

Every timewalking dungeon I've healed so far has involved tanks sprinting off around corners and out of range, while pulling half the dungeon. Then the broken scaling suddenly bites and their health goes from 100% to 10% in a blink. There are clear issues there, but healers aren't one of them.

[@joshm.2954]

Someone asked me if i wanted a mace. I said yes, then got kicked mid run. Stupidest shit ever.

[@brelshar4968]

Never talk in WoW pugs :)

[@seraclass2237]

You went for the hammer, but ended up being nailed. ... I'm sorry, I'll see myself out.

[@Visher]

I always lead people on. If they ask me if I need something, I'll ignore it for a few minutes, or tell em to hold on/give it to them after the last boss. I give them hope then just leave when the dungeon is completed.

[@Skource1]

Why if I don’t need items I’ll always offer it mid dung

[@LuckyPed10]

Unfortunately, nothing can be done sometimes to problems like this xD it's just people being assholes lol yesterday I tried joining a heroic pug raid, I am already 610 ilvl average and not hard to get into groups, but this group i signed up for, whispered me to ask if i needed any tier set from the raid, I said yeah, and he rejected me xD

[@korn7809]

I still need the transmogs from Illadin on my DH.

[@keikoZB]

I noticed the auto damage on my blood dk too. I was wondering why are these mobs hitting like a truck. Turns out, I wasn't imagining it

[@AlmostMeantToBe]

yee war does alright bc of block but if u turn ur back on anything u melt lol

[@lavalampex]

Let me guess, have fun while it lasts, before blizzard detects it.

[@88luda88]

Timewalking feels very undertuned and easy. I love it

[@TaliesinMyrddin]

Damn it, wish I knew about that raid bosses counting toward the weekly thing. Would much rather one BT run than five TW dungeons.

[@nasa-bohica8516]

What add on is that for the vendor showing huge pages like that @ 3:05

[@ImbizzBronko]

Krowi's Extended Vendor UI

[@The86Ripper]

Whispering people if they dont need something sometimes yields results but you gotta understand its not always cut and dry whether you actually need something seemingly worse than what you have. Unless you have pre-simmed your character on all possible loot or seen this particular piece of loot before, there is no possible way in hell you would know whether that item would possibly be an upgrade under specific circumstances. I wont even go into trasmogs. So yeah, be respectful.

[@halcyon3600]

okay but most of the time the small stat changes dont really matter whatsoever and most people don't care, they just want better stats. only a minority of the playerbase minmax, and that is minmaxing right there. i've never seen someone be disrespectful when asking for loot, but i mean hey if you wanna become disrespectful when i ask then i'm more than down to throw out choice words

[@wowkiarani]

Yeh I was healing and I was just "WTF how did you die" then I switch to my tank and I did realize how hard the auto attacks hits holly shit my poor monk was always on red stagger

[@Noobalator]

I had a tank who couldn't hold aggro the entire dungeon that I was with them. One of the pulls the healer died, then asked to be res'd after the fight was over. The tank attempted to vote to kick for the healer "being afk", After that failed, he attempted to vote to kick for "not healing" which also failed. I called out the tank on it, and not even 20 seconds later I got kicked.

[@kholio4377]

PUG Situation normal. LFG i think has been mostly unhealthy for the mental state of the game.

[@123denaro]

There are so many systems that as a fresh 80 i was so lost. No idea how I even managed to get to 574. I wish there was a step by step, as I am sure I did so many things in efficiently

[@notforkliftcertified7884]

Honestly, if you want bang for your buck, do tier 8+delves and time walking stuff. At the moment the casual player really doesn't need anything else

[@adams-n8w]

Bountiful delves ! Not just t8. Regular isn’t guaranteed gear . Need a coffer key

[@sevensixxtwo-l2r]

bright side is now you know pretty much what to expect for the next expansion. I also did stuff in my opinion inefficiently but I like the systems in place they're complex that they're rewarding if you're experienced. sadly i am just a nub

[@nighteyeswolf]

this was soooo OP for me, I was down to just my gloves and belt being stuck at 580 explorer gear with no luck from all the T8 delves and normal raid, and I ended up getting gloves from one of the bosses, and a heroic belt from the raid quest reward cache.

[@JT-mt6ku]

I got a shitty 610 stamina trinket on my mage 😭

[@Shadowxjen]

And thats why the minmaxxing before bc timewalking was totally a waste of time.

[@Faiythe]

For the badges, it's not a new thing to be able to trade them to alts, you could do it before. All that's changed is they have now put it on the warband transfer feature where as before you had to buy BoA tokens and send them across.

[@raspor]

only thing that could make this better is to place an npc next to the vendor that you could turn in the quests from the dungeons

[@jakemartins949]

I'm feeling for all the other tanks doing these timewalking dungeons. As a brewmaster, I'm able to deal with the crazy auto attacks, but I've seen 2nd tanks just get deleted randomly.

[@AlmostMeantToBe]

war does okay as well bc 100% uptime on block negates a lot of auto damage but you have always stay facing the mobs or instantly die

[@TwinTalos]

I feel guilty fighting Illidan as my Demon Hunter. Just feels wrong.

[@GylleneGott]

If i get a piece i dont need, i always ask the group if someone else does need it

[@BlackRoseThornEtna]

did timewalking dungeons on monk and it felt really quick.

[@Tijuanabill]

People ask me for gear all the time and I don't mind handing it over, if I'm not going to use it. Don't be shy, folks.

[@CosmicCleric]

I always have terrible luck with this. People usually like to vendor the gear or give it to an alt to disenchant. :/

[@JoshuaTindel]

Got a few good laughs watching DPS drop in the blink of an eye to mobs. But seriously, I was having to spam healing surge before and during each pool just to prevent the tank from getting 2-shot. Then I went to the forums and saw nobody talking about it. 😢

[@janeokeson-harlow4125]

OH THANK GOODNESS. My ilvl 605 Prot Pally was getting slaughtered in BT TW on Wed. I thought the either my mitigation was off or the healers were asleep.

[@skeliskull]

I feel like the timewalking dungeons are super bugged right now. The mobs die fast but they also obliterate dps if they pull any aggro. Tanks are dropping left and right as well because they actually need to use their defensives too. The damage seems weirdly high

[@matt2d2007]

i'll just wait for lich king time walking.

[@Whatever-qs3rx]

Got hero gloves I needed, a bis ring from the weekly chest and ashes of alar from the tw quest. 10/10 would run again.

[@bradenlundrigan6640]

how did you get the vendor window wider at 4:30? I NEED that addon

[@Nirvashvos]

As monk main not getting any rolls in BT is so sad

[@ericromero5438]

I got one shotted on lady shazzra with white damage with overkill double my health

[@Maria_Erias]

Blood Furnace is stupid. My group actually made it through, but there were some mobs that were two-shotting a decently-geared tank with full buffs up, Fort, and PW:S up. The only thing that made it do-able was that DPS was high enough that we could swack the mobs before they could swack all of us.

[@RealBullbear]

@@Maria_Eriasdh/monk/lock aoe stuns work great!

[@Maria_Erias]

@@RealBullbear I was healing (Disc priest), and we had a rogue and a ret pally, with a prot pally tanking (and a mage). Between the rogue and two paladins, we were able to rotate stuns pretty well and just mob down the mobs, but there were a few pulls where the tank just flat-out got deleted in between once GCD and the next.

[@antala-wm4mu]

bellular excited with loot box game

[@Moonshaft]

Does anyone know the addon being used to expand the NPC's inventory like that?

[@Aureora]

Im also wondering

[@TheFierburn]

@@Aureora i googled it and found it very easily, its a good life lesson to try and solve it instead of hoping someone does it for you

[@apocaelypze]

The dialogue option? It's DialogueUI

[@Valiadgr]

Krowi's Extended Vendor UI

[@pshearduk]

Stoopid question as a casual. Where or how do I pickup the BT timewalking?

[@DraphEnjoyer]

Classic Andy: “Leveling must be slow MUH journey RETAIL BAD” Retail Ricky: “leveling should be fast SLOW” The fact we have multiple versions of this game and theres still this much arguing is getting old

[@vladimirbosinceanu5778]

Great vid! Thank you

[@SaarimaaSauli]

I have not seen anyone get more than one piece of dropped loot from Black Temple as its personal loot, ofc you may trade from other people.

[@TheDethsight]

i can confirm that it's not the most fun tanking in TW. had an Arcane mage pulling since it's the OP flavor of the patch. it wasn't accidental. mage was just pulling what they wanted since i was not "pulling enough", even though i was on deaths door the second i pulled a medium sized mob group lol.

[@merox2266]

Timewalking dmg scaling is absurd you pull small pack and they one shot you

[@Sean-ez7rt]

I'm probably in the major minority here but when I get a piece of gear I don't need I actively look around at other people who might need it and just try to give it to the guy who would benefit most. Ok, Ok, unless its a sick mog. XD

[@F3nryl]

Have i been lucky getting Ashes of Alar from the chest or did many others too?

[@MagusFyre]

I dont know if its just me, but Burning Crusade feels like it gives the most xp out of all the Time Walking dungeons. Cataclysm and whatever after that just doesn't feel like leveling goes as fast.

[@rjskellz1786]

Is the time walking raid a one time thing or can you repeat it every day for gear?

[@garycabezas]

Lol love the skynet reference hahaha 😂

[@ta18483]

What’s the name of the quest window addon ?

[@iseth7612]

Dialogue UI

[@lukaskekesi1276]

There is no mount for Cata timewalking. Blizz better make one appear in cata timewalking vendor! My badges are ready.

[@blutraven4304]

Can someone please explain to me, why am I getting Onehanded Weapons Gs 606+ / 603+ from the Timewalking Raid/Box and in the Vault as a Fury... I'm Crying

[@8acun]

ooooooooo what's that addon that increases vendor window pane????????

[@TheBenSheeGaming]

i leveled in TW's with a char that was still level 60 and jumped over a whole level multiple times... my char went from 68 to 70 with dungeon completion not even showing "reached level 69" in chat... it's actually nuts... if you need to level, do it NOW!

[@PrematureMalone]

As someone who stopped playing for about 12 years, idk wtf is going on anymore. So many systems.

[@no-budhee6657]

So just like joining any MMO years after it came out?

[@PrematureMalone]

@no-budhee6657 ok sure but idk how that helps me.

[@drnekodr]

Does threat in Black Temple work like Classic era threat or current? The group I was playing with did not want to wait before attacking pulls of mobs and were getting one shot because the tank could not get all the threat before the damage came in, and then pulling threat away was nearly impossible. Anyone know?

[@gregoryshinn9805]

Thanks for the video

[@kronostitan11]

Are the mechanics the same as BT back in the day? I did it originally but never got the main hand glaive, but have the offhand

[@beacon-313]

So you want to rip someone from death to have them give you loot and then kill them again? HOW EVIL!

[@mcchicken9878]

i don't get people who want to get to 80 quick AF just enjoy the dam content

[@frederikjensby9273]

the content starts after 80.

[@sbowesuk981]

@@frederikjensby9273 There's plenty of content before 80. It's just more story oriented than challenge oriented. I like a bit of both, so don't view the level cap as the be-all end-all.

[@OidhcheLanFala]

I've been playing that game since release have multiple characters that are from the end of MoP or older and have done every single zone i don't know how many times. My only goal is to get to max level rn. Let people play the game as they want. If you want to chill, take it slow and enjoy every nook and cranny that's fine.

[@matheusfantinel7970]

Having fun is playing the game wrong. You gotta minmax fast otherwise you’re wasting your time with this so-called “fun”

[@DoomBringerDANTE]

@@matheusfantinel7970 Some people have many alts and have done this all before. That is me. I have leveled in every expansion. There is no new thing to do for leveling my alts.

[@alistairknightsly440]

blizzard has not brought back character restoration for me =/

[@trancer03]

dps queue times are 9 or 10 minutes. so the queue time is longer than the runs. and i just cant figure out what to do those 10 minutes that gives good xp

[@BlackRoseThornEtna]

does blacktemple have any crests?

[@zantsmith4257]

30 up for time walking? I could of sworn I saw a blizzard dev video say it was 10

[@sarkxyson6113]

timewalking has been around for years, i just looked at all my alts, i have 60k worth of badges and i already have all the mounts and toys, currently the only thing i buy is upgrades for heirlooms. im guessing im not alone with badge overload

[@Ecliptor.]

I couldn't queue for tbc dungeon timewalking on my alt, maybe it was because I used the free lvl 70 boost on it? But yeah, it sucked.

[@Im_Not_From_Around_Here]

Couldn't find any raid groups listed at all, either. Didn't want to form one because I'm not a people person. I'm OK with small convos in chat just not leader type lol

[@Ecliptor.]

@@Im_Not_From_Around_Here I'm sure you didn't check the category where it's listed. It's under legacy raids.

[@Im_Not_From_Around_Here]

@@Ecliptor. I'll check it out tonight.

[@rekrn12345]

Has nothing to do with healing. Tanks are literally being 1-2 shot. There is nothing you can do to stop them from dying lol.

[@LennertDeRick]

Anyone got a clue why I can't queue for it? Fresh boost 70 Do I have to do intro Q or smth? Done campaign on my main already

[@OidhcheLanFala]

I'm really hyped for the 20th anniversary event. I couldn't get the Deathwing mount during the 15th anniversary since I had a break so I'm happy it comes back.

[@tlhgamer]

Brother, what TWing dungeons are you doing where they take only 6-8 minutes on average?

[@vspecter3548]

All of them ? 😂

[@v00doozz82]

Uhhh are they not for you? They’re easy as hell

[@elbalanden]

They're taking me like 10-12 minutes, that's with tank taking their time. Just leveled my priest from 70-80 and was doing like 28-35 minutes a level

[@eFrog27]

running straight boss to boss and clearing the full groups is pretty quick even without much aoe

[@Ntwolf1220]

Only shattered halls takes longer imo

[@uoraziel]

Where is the vendor?

[@Scrydragon]

What is the addon you're using for displaying quests? I love it!

[@yiva6579]

40 min waiting on queue to level ...niiice

[@WideEyesGaming]

New player here, where do i find the quest for the dungeon run for 500 badges?

[@justinhammon4750]

Shattrath city in the outlands. There should be a portal there in other orgrimmar or Stormwind portal rooms :)

[@spiddys11]

my que for dps for timewalking was an hour lmao.

[@lexicon7336]

"Just by finishing the Timewalking raid" I spent 10 mins getting systematically rejected by every single pug group. Probably because I'm "only" ilvl 580

[@adamobronzino7315]

I'll does not matter though in timewalking....it scales.

[@MrInsiipid]

@@adamobronzino7315 Yeah, but most people are still going to take a higher ilvl over a lower one. Big number better. Small number worse. It's how WoW works now. If you have a low ilvl you're assumed to be casual or less experienced than a higher one, scaling or not.

[@M82Predator]

554 gear is absolutely garbage, just do R8 delves, I'm 610 and I have basically just done bountiful 8s.

[@zantsmith4257]

No one whispers for loot they all just yell in raid or /yell for the item.

[@Fasertox]

The scaling bug exist in normal tbc dungeon as well

[@_H0P3_]

But... it's so fking boring lvling alta in dungeons I can't doing it I tear my hait or. :(

[@Daventry85]

Where is these quest givers

[@zer00rdie]

What's with the ticky blinking?

[@thatsimonpeter]

Character resorption is still disabled, right?

[@delhobo]

How can I start the raid ? I don’t see it on lfr

[@noggrin1908]

nHC, TW Dungeons = 554 WQ = 561-564 HC Dungeon necessary to Enter = 567 Find the problem TW DungeonLoot sometimes has same Itemlevel as HC (Vendor sells something between nHC-HC), than something between nHC and HC (Vendor sells nHC Itemlevel), or like now it's only nHC (Vendor has Crap)

[@Ny7emare]

I haven't done it yet, how difficult is Timewalking Black Temple?

[@Noobsted]

Ezpz

[@sandy1636]

Not difficult at all

[@LPhooligan]

Very easy don't even need to do mechanics, just very very long

[@EmoDragracer]

Just don’t pull adds into the second boss and you’re fine 😅

[@ridetoruin]

Super easy. Barely an inconvenience

[@resort7556]

hey im new , at what level we can do timewalking dungeons for alts ?

[@StaringAimlessly]

sitting at 120k badges, waiting for new vendors !!

[@salamiman223]

i dont understand the graveyard thing hes talking about. do a dungeon, collect the flask to hand into timewalking vendor, hand it in for 500, transfer it, delete character, restore, run dungeon again. when i ran dungeon after delete, i didnt get another flask to hand in. so whats the strategy?

[@jeremyesser797]

Timewalking reminds me of WoD gameplay don’t understand how people enjoy this outside of some cosmetics

[@ClipPointCam]

The scaling is wonky. Mobs seem to melt people

[@smf3196]

Whispering might of worked before, now ppl are needing everything to then offer for sale. Im seeing it a lot. So stupid.

[@FrakkD]

sadly the only thing worth from TW (besides the fast leveling) is the raid. Max drops from dungeons are less than what you can buy for cheap from AH.

[@jessicahampton4581]

Question how many seasons do you think the tww will have

[@chasedogman2032]

The scaling is absurdly scuffed

[@S1kTh66]

I'm sad that the WORLD of Warcraft is just getting skipped by stuff like this. I get that most players saw the content, but a lot of people didn't experience the expansion stories and those zones are now empty and forgotten.

[@TaliesinMyrddin]

Me with 128k badges across my account

[@s.armitage3963]

Offer to buy the loot they were just gonna vendor. Your 500-1000 beats the pants off the 100 or so the vendor is offering.

[@Dudewithhat9531]

I stopped caring about OP in games where u can buy whatever you want with cash. I can also buy all the best gear, so why be mad that it can be earned in game easily. “ i want to spend 30 hours a week for a piece of gear”

[@GRAIVE_]

Unrelated, but what is that quest frame from at 00:26?

[@MysteryMan159]

I believe it’s called dialogue UI and it’s an addon. I use it and it’s excellent! He talks about it in a different video

[@GRAIVE_]

@@MysteryMan159 Appreciate it, I'll check it out!

[@Spirosbotos]

Can we get warglaives

[@TheBeastLukester]

So (dumb question) is Black Temple LFR or is just normal? I’ve never done a time walking raid before so just wondering.

[@cleversonsutil4495]

It's kind of LFR: the Raid Leader needs to talk to the NPC Quest Giver to transport the group to there

[@hobosnake1]

I'd say in difficulty, it's like a normal raid but maybe 10% easier. Which is to say it is very easy and everyone should be comfortable to step into it.

[@Archimo]

A shame that blizzard just decided to sabotage all the fun people had with timewalking, upcomming change for PTR where they are gonna make is so the mobs and bosses scale up to our level instead of us scaling down, AKA old gear farmed and used for TW is no longer gonna be useable because the mobs will scale to max level and it's also more likely that you having worse gear against them will make it a pain due to horrible scaling in a bad way. Rip all the nice trinkets of the past and legendaries. Also Blizzard already implemented that heart of azeroth no longer works in TW despite working entire DF and before for no apparent reason literally removing every timewalkers fun.

[@paddycakes6244]

Aww rip that's lame af.

[@Kenny77557]

This. Really sucks...

[@frostmagemarii]

Blizzard for a long time has been too obsessed with "systems". They think implementing a system will reduce their time involved in balancing.. but they they can never get the systems right. They swing wildly one way or another, then they need to compensate and they swing the other way. At the end of the day, it ruins peoples fun and desire to engage with their game mode.

[@BlinksTehShit]

Nah this is good, all that also served as an object of friction/reasons why a player wouldn't want to do timewalking. It was a cool thing to have when the majority of the playerbase was the playerbase that played then, but that isn't the case here anymore for most timewalking and people would feel like they need to go back to get that shit.

[@Archimo]

@@BlinksTehShit If that was a friction for people then this is basically that hard core enforced if you're max lv more so now cause if you have worse gear you won't do as well and it will likely end with locked low lvls like 20 or 30 etc. speed clearring it like with mop remix and lv 70 clearing in warwithin prerelease. if anything this makes it less accessible to everybody because now the gate is a low level twink character that abuses scaling.

[@grishnakh]

The black temple is so good, but only with range player. The melee experience is worse than hell. Lots of skill state " 15xx " or " 18xx " damage but it do 6000 or 8000 damage on a plate DPS while our HP pool is only 3500~3800 It would be nice to just state "Black temple time walking, no melee allowed"