Using Apple's Pro Desktop... From 21 Years Ago!

[@psivewri]

Download Opera for free: opr.as/psivewri-Opera-Tech-configuration

[@Qwerty-uiop]

Okay

[@FindecanorNotGmail]

Hearing that something has "AI features" has become an instant turn-off for me by now.

[@andrive]

Helo

[@nikolasg4210]

i use opera gx not opera

[@MrGoatsy]

Opera shares user details with its Chinese shareholders.

[@Kaneosaurus]

Such a great early millenium design. Still looks like the future to me.

[@protocetid]

I think some 2000s design language can be successfully incorporated into the devices of today, recently learned about the Ironside Y2K PC case and it doesn’t look outdated to me.

[@stekarenhd6911]

Oh god I hope the future doesnt hold yellowed transparent plastics

[@brixoric]

I agree

[@TiggerLyOne]

Come on, the metal jacket that followed this one is truly timeless and still futuristic by today's standards. But this is so 90s blobby phase😂

[@protocetid]

@@TiggerLyOneThe Mac Pro that directly followed this computer is not futuristic if it hails from the late 2000s, computers have changed so little since then. Minimalism in gray scale colors is the new beige, even if it's not hideous like beige. Makes me miss the more colorful and adventurous designs of the earlier 2000s and the decades that lead up to them. I'd like for designers to channel that spirit again and leave the parts that were ugly behind.

[@the_iancu]

thats not a "pykeyecell", it's " oh, my pkcell" 😂😂😂 (dankpods reference) edit: Guys TYSM for all of these likes! I didn't expect this to boom!

[@casper3882]

Thanks for the dank pods reference now I can sleep

[@pearelectronics3083]

That annoyed me as well, he’d better say pkcell next time

[@gavinitka5759]

Lolololollll

[@Gadgetman1989]

I hear PoCkCeLl

[@GermanElias-hd6lc]

That's true! (I have schizophrenia)

[@nickwort123]

You really nailed “early 2000s American advertiser” voice in that segment

[@bryans8656]

That old Pro design is timeless.

[@SilverSpoon_]

true, the G5 was also sexy, too bad I'm a PC kind of guy, if ever i find one that's damaged, I'd upgrade it with a Ryzen and a Gigabyte mobo. Friendship ended with Asus.

[@SWOhioSpeedtesting]

Are we not going to applaud his music skills on the keyboard and promo video for the G4? That was incredible!

[@MK_2023.]

A little bit of Rammstein will always make any computer video better!

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

It’s kind of crazy how fast designs have evolved between the 2000s to the 2010s compared to 2010s to the 2020s. The form factor is iconic after all these years, even if Apple kind of made its own Mac Pro irrelevant in 2023

[@MelvinAstrahan-b3f]

The M2 Mac Pro 2023 is NOT irrelevant, its perfect for those of us that want and need the speed and "tidyness" of internal PCIe card expansion. You obviously are not interested or aware of the many uses of PCIe expansion. Hence you are not a true "PRO" and the Mac Pro is simply not for you, The Mac Studio exists to save $$ for "prosumers".

[@nathanw7114]

@@MelvinAstrahan-b3f in addition to this there are also some hints for new hardware which is likely to come later (extra compute modules)

[@obineg5752]

@@MelvinAstrahan-b3f you are obviously not aware of the fact that many PCIe cards will not work in the mac pro M2. and that you can easily hook up PCIe expansion chassis to a mac studio, where all cards *will* work. plus it will still be 1000 dollars cheaper.

[@misham6547]

@@MelvinAstrahan-b3fwell it can’t use GPU’s and the compatibility list is quite short, so I fail to see why the 2x premium is worth it

[@jimiwexler1260]

My dad still uses this computer! Barely but it’s his tax filing and printing workstation, has a ton of upgrades that have kept it running over the years. Probably hasn’t been cleaned once

[@mustasheolll2020]

I’m amazing it’s still used in all honesty, that’s impressive!

[@otter-pro]

These powermacs look so much better in person. The reflection of mirrored surface and the shiny translucent plastic (in good condition) looks just amazing when you see it in person instead.

[@protocetid]

Apple should try something like it again with modern sensibilities instead of making computers that have hardly changed since the late 2000s.

[@mustasheolll2020]

⁠@@protocetidThey just redid the iMac a few years ago…

[@flotowncomputerguy6243]

SorbetLeopard runs much better on these machines than regular Leopard. Tiger and Panther are where it will shine, however. If you want any reasonable attempt at modern web browsing / KZbin playback, SorbetLeopard is your best bet. I've been able to play video at 240p from KZbin on a similar setup

[@theshadowman1398]

My main Apple retro computer. Still use it from time to time. Upgraded it as much as possible. Have a new PSU in it, dual 1.25 GHZ G4's and several other expansions ( also a much stronger GPU ).

[@cathrynm]

I have an eMac 1Ghz G4 and I dual boot to MacOS9 for games. It's not useable for the web anymore, all the browsers seem to have degraded. I can stream music from VLC and just use it as a radio. I got the MacOS9/Leopard dual boot running recently, and MACOS9 seems to have better game options than OSX, though I've just started playing with it.

[@cathrynm]

@noogai2 Are you able to watch youtube on a powerpc?

[@ShankarGanesh]

@theshadowman1398 what do you use this for? just curious.

[@jimiwexler1260]

@@ShankarGaneshmy dad uses a g4 on osx for his taxes and it works well with our old ricoh copier and large format printer. It just chugs along so why get rid of it.

[@rsweb1993]

Time to upgrade to dual 1.42s or a Sonnet card!

[@Ropeng]

Rammstein!! 🤘🏻 from Germany 🇩🇪 to the World, greetings to all Metalheads!

[@evilZardoz]

I still prefer, in some ways, the QuickSilver model as they were slightly less noisy, and they looked a bit more minimalistic design-wise vs. the MDD. I have a few of these in various states of repair. One of my systems has a label on it that suggested that it was maxed out at purchase time - 2GB RAM, ti4200 4x120GB drives and a superdrive. Although none of the original drives, and only some of the original RAM was left, the Ti4200 was still present. The system you have is fortunately the FW400 model which still natively supports Mac OS 9, and is the last and one of the fastest ways to run the old OS.

[@poundlandspeedwagonrequiem]

3:23 me trying to turn my MacBook on at night without waking anyone up

[@lieutenantdan8170]

Used to have an older version of the powermac g4 and that thing was a space heater

[@peterbondmusic]

This makes me very nostalgic... still have my Quicksilver that I bought in August 2001 and it still boots...

[@TheMetalMag]

I have one or three of this, one wasn't working and the troubles was the RAM, but not only I changed the processor and it's working but didn't know that higher processor isn't accepted so the computer shows less G than normally is... great machine .

[@YogurtSnipe]

I like how clear it is.

[@LE_SSERAFIM]

20 Years Ago, Power Mac G4 is Dream Machine for me.

[@miket.220]

I had one of these in 2005, a single 1.0ghz with 512mb ram. Ran 10.3 beautifully. Was my main computer until the Core2Duo Macbook came out.

[@robotomo4249]

There's something so special about late 90s - early 2010s Apple products. Steve Jobs truly knew what a beautiful product was, inside and out. I have never owned an Apple computer in my life so I never got to experience the "old school" Apple lifestyle. I absolutely love the skeuomorphic design of OSX and I hope that one day, I'll be able to use it for myself, although I probably won't be able to do anything at all on nit!

[@petershorrock6128]

Amazing talent true legend never forgot love older tech great review 😀❤

[@badger67]

It's definitely worth displaying in your collection 😊 I had the 1.25 dual running 2Gb of RAM. Stunning machine at the time (still is 😅). I used to call it 'my wife' and stroke it lovingly to my girlfriend's displeasure 😂😂. I married her in the end to stop her complaining 🤣🤣, and yes, we're still married. Thanks for the memories mate 👍

[@shuwenchiang9544]

my Power Macintosh G4 MDD 1.2,5GHz 2GBx2 400MHz DDR Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB AGP 250GB IDE x2 500GB x2 SATA OS tiger 10.4.11 leopard 10.5.8 snow leopard 10.6.8

[@mrm2744]

It's amazing how teams from so many years ago can age so well. They gave me a computer a week ago, an imac from mid-2007, it did not turn on and it was just cleaning it, I would like to update the cpu to do more tests but it is difficult to find them for sale.

[@fridgeman]

I have two of these in my collection at home. Still hard to believe they're 20+ years old and look so modern.

[@kevenrdavenport108]

"Nathan, why do you always bring the eucalyptus oil with you when you go to the bathroom?!" "Leave me alone ma!!"

[@AttilaSVK]

My first Mac was a G4 MDD, a dual 1.25 GHz model. I bought it in 2006 and sold it in 2008 so I could upgrade to an '06 Mac Mini 1.83 GHz Core Duo. I loved that machine to bits. It came with an SCSI controller card, useful for my Yamaha A5000 sampler I owned back then. I added a USB 2.0 card, a second DVD burner (which had LightScribe) and expanded the RAM to 2GB it was a fine machine for the time. Btw, the small fan is cooling the optical drive cage.

[@AppleBman]

I've got a Quicksilver 2002 @ 800MHz that still works well enough. In 2009 I ordered a Sonnet Allegro USB-2 PCI card that gave me multiple USB-2 ports. Recommended!

[@Spoolingturbo6]

overclock it !

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

I have a quicksilver 2001 867mhz. It’s pretty nice. I upgraded the GPU to a Radeon 9000 pro 128mb to replace the 32mb GeForce 2 MX. The GeForce is faster in UI acceleration l, but the Radeon is noticeably faster in games. I’ve also added a USB 2.0 card. I plan to add a wifi card at some point. And possibly a SATA controller to boot sorbet leopard faster.

[@roi1719]

omg the footage of the camera looks hist like the 90´s. so nice whatßs still possible keep it up

[@zUltra3D]

Nooo it's not "pekay cell" it's "PKCELL"

[@jamesmccartermail]

Super timing of the video, just been given one free! Super retro mac! 👌 🍏 Great content as always. 👍

[@thosepixelstho]

he used a pkcell, ole mate Dankie will love that xd

[@Piipperi800]

Because these suck power like crazy, my dad would often shut the MMD G4 down after being done with it. So very regularly I'd hear the boot chime, and in a small apartment, especially as a kid, it was a real jump scare. It was, and will always be, so unexpectedly loud.

[@andrupka8749]

OHH MY PKCELL

[@walpoleandworcester]

Great job cleaning that Powermac G4 up. I was also surprised updates to the OS could still be downloaded on it as well.

[@Davids_Hobbies]

9:14 OH MY PKCELL...wait...wrong channel...

[@johnadams6249]

ram seating is always the issue, when I was changing cpu and ram in my pc it stopped booting and I was worried I had bricked it. Nope, just needed to reseat ram

[@jorgem50]

Great design no doubt.

[@macschomo]

I have the same Mac and Display. It still works. But it's loud as hell. I can use it only in my silent case.

[@HowlinAndyDE]

I still have my Quicksilver. It's so painfully slow with Leopard... But Tiger runs so smooth on this machine.

[@insaneiaq]

I've got a couple of these still. A last gen dual 1.42GHz and a dual 1.25. The power supplies are flaky, but they're really cool. My 1.42 still gets simi-regular use as my DVD ripping rig. Mac The Ripper is still free for PowerPC machines and 4x 400GB internal HDDs make for plenty of space. Obviously newer and faster dual Superdrives make ripping a piece of cake.

[@JosephMBoyer]

Wow! good job at rammstein, you really are an imac man LOL

[@BluePikmin10422]

9:48 BONG!!!🎉

[@babyjayASMR]

Second best Mac design next to the iMac G4, I have the 17 inch G4 and still use it all the time. Doing a review video in ASMR style soon if anyones interested in that

[@MRHOTCAKE]

I have an old PowerMac G5 2x2Ghz and tried to maxed out, the most difficult was to find a 6800 ultra due its a AGP

[@BadKarma714]

I think you put the perfect amount of thermal paste better than Tronics fix 😂 good video. there’s no form of like retro bright that you can do on that. What does that only work on computers that have paint on it? Hey that look like a cool little commercial I like the part where you stuck your tongue out in the mirror 😂 also I gave it that old 90s look

[@paulzx]

No one often drops a desktop computer...

[@CharlesBluTheXPicturesInc]

😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😝😝😝😝😝😝 KZbin Requires A Mac With Intel CPU!!!!!!!

[@Spoolingturbo6]

fun fact, you can over clock it by resistors on the daughter card. and motherboard. Turning a 133MHz CPU card into a 167MHz CPU card is just a matter of removing the R22 resistor. If your CPU card was a dual 1.0GHz, it will be a dual 1.25GHz after the bus change! And will run Sorbet Leaopard very well.

[@DummiBoiii]

Man you guys have no idea how much I miss, miss, MISS THIS ERA!!!!😭😩🙏 such a nice, fun design fr😔

[@douglasjacobs3803]

thats to cool.wished I could get my imac runnin ive formatted it and tryed installing elcapatain but wont boot from usb no mater what

[@DistrosProjects]

You’re lucky your loud fan spin problem was RAM related. That issue is usually power supply or CPU card related but could honestly be nearly anything and is almost impossible to debug. Mine’s issue was probably the CPU card, but I am planning on converting it to a sleeper PC.

[@Flex200]

I don’t know if it’s good to play Rammstein since some things happened here in Germany

[@Mainyehc]

I recently disassembled two older blue and white G4s, and it’s interesting to see how different the internal side panels look. These later models have lot more perforations, I’m guessing because these heated up a lot more. As a matter of fact, and IIRC, this particular model was nicknamed the “wind tunnel G4” because of the insane fan noise it made.

[@Afonsolelis2]

Better than celeron 2023

[@MechaFenris]

The fact that it's 21 years old now freaks me out. :) I had a Graphite PowerMac G4, which is even older. Sheesh, I am old...

[@psivewri]

The graphite ones feel soooo much older. Somehow the mirrored door G4 looks like it's from the future :)

[@Suhadisgood]

Apple got the worst computers then anyone else the worst warranty you can end up paying for a broken PC in your house forever that will never be repaired ever again when it comes to Apple computers I have 3 Apple computers that are broken and no store can fix them not just did they just break but when they aren’t broken I upgraded my Apple it stopped playing games I paid for you can’t downgrade your iMac Windows is the best way to buy a computer

[@decm8]

I really need to get my hands on one of these, I have a crt 21' studio monitor and its settings can only be adjusted with one of these old macs

[@vladtherussian23462]

you destroyed my heart. installing OSX loepard on PowerPC mac (if its not sobert leopard(fanmade optimized build of leopard)) is worse then living a week in hell

[@vivienm7]

You should run OS 9 on it - this is the last machine that can, and OS 9 is a lot more interesting than Leopard.

[@gbeats1988]

This G4 tower was my primary music production computer up until 2016 when I upgraded to a G5. Some of the music I produced on the G4 ended up on records that went gold!

[@FlakerGamer]

Man I'm trying to buy a g4 or a g5 cuz my computer is not good for music and other macs are expensive

[@gbeats1988]

@@FlakerGamer what are you using currently? honestly there are plenty of good PC options if you use FL Studio, Ableton, etc. I use obscure software that only runs on older Macs

[@FlakerGamer]

@@gbeats1988 the problem is i run a Celeron d 347 and a core 2 duo e7500 and both are horrible to use without a good audio card

[@FlakerGamer]

@@gbeats1988 i will buy a workstation later so o dont want to waste money on my actual computers

[@gbeats1988]

@@FlakerGamer oh yeah. if you have a budget of even $200 you can get a modern windows laptop with an intel i3-1115g4 which will far outperform those dinosaurs

[@vinnie4g63]

I'm not an apple guy, and I agree the g4 is nice looking. BUT the g5 is probably one of the best looking computers ever built. apple or not

[@janklobener435]

I have an empty blue G4 case lying around, still procrastinating the project of retrofitting it with a new pc system 😅

[@euckb]

do it!

[@bluej511]

A PC build in that case would be amazing, total sleeper build :). Btw why does your voice for ur 4:3 clip sound like the dbk buys on yt lol.

[@mackiek8058]

Has Opera not proved to be a Chinese owned data collection company? I'll stick to Brave Browser for now.

[@SMGM7S]

Could you replace the mobo with a modern atx board?

[@TheSpotify95]

Surprised that these things are even still around. And much more repair friendly than the latest M2 powered iMac's!

[@PantusiaGaming]

only macs released after new year 2006 are allowed to run snow leopard!

[@JDX_117]

Wasn't expecting you to play Rammstein 🤝 man of culture

[@aeonjoey3d]

I built these and set several of the build’s factory standards for apple’s Sacramento California, Cork Ireland, and Singapore factories where these were made. This model was called P57 internally and was the subject of several lawsuits involving coworkers. It was many firsts for apple, and I remember everyone putting their fingers in the holes on the bottom asking if they were fan vents or ports, no, they were nothing lol.

[@frown]

I don't care for apple then or now but I'm glad I watched through for Rammstein❤

[@gimmmy90]

finnaly a new one! 8:13 for the foam Noctua add this like 1 years ago just check the size it's look like 60x60 fan so the foam you need is around 70-80 range

[@artistnyc123]

I find this a little bit painful only because I probably spent between five and six grand on these set ups back in the 90s and that's 90s dollars. Imagine pumping that kind of money into Apple stock back then you could retire early today.

[@lornetc]

I recently got one of these for $50 bucks, Dual 1Ghz, the best part is that its the last model that can run OS9 :D

[@LSnium]

Wow I was shocked at how nice it is when it opened up with the handle and acted like a lid and a component board all at once, Apple really puts lots of a engineering and thought into their products, especially back when Steve Jobs was boss.

[@AdamZugone]

His talking style often leads me to believe he just isn't capable of having emotions until he adds silly little bits like the G4 promo vid at the end lol I loved it

[@WalterKnox]

Even though I am not a MAC person, the fact that something like this is considered (and actually is I guess) vintage still screws with me. I still use PCs that are around the same age on a daily basis, and don't even consider them to bee that old, but in reality they are and time has just flown by.

[@Normando_lopak1625]

hey dude my iphone xs is rebooting on charge only and if its not on charge theres no signal

[@luckygamer4564]

The fact that he said "Pee-Kay Cell" and not "Pook Cell" honest annoyed me a bit

[@50ShadesOfBeige]

I’ve always preferred the look of its predecessor, the QuickSilver 2002 range, of which I’ve still got my powerhouse with upgraded dual 1.8Ghz CPUs, 1.5GB RAM, and for the day a “massive” 60GB SATA SSD as an OSX Tiger boot drive. With FCP3 and DVDSP I felt unstoppable.

[@tekito307]

honestly, im always entertained watching you restore old tech, but where do you keep you're colelctions? do a vid on it, hahaha

[@mac27collection]

When the case is closed, the small fan on the door (next to the motherboard) snugs up to the optical drives to cool them. This is why there are ventilation holes all over the optical drive cage.

[@nanopone]

interwebppc is newer and faster than tenfourfox

[@MelonRace]

Is PKCell a South Australian only battery?

[@LDrumsOhio]

I had four of these versions, the Dual 1.25 GHZ model and held onto them till 2011. I absolutely loved this model, and it was incredibly powerful and a stunning design. When I worked as a graphic designer, this is all we had in our studio at the time and it was amazing. I ended scoring a few and used them as an XBMC/Kodi Server, a Network Renderer, Fileshare Server, and then one for my home music studio as I had a lot of Firewire interfaces. My second favorite was the PowerMac G5 which was stunningly designed and so compatible with a lot of hardware out there. This is when I loved Apple; when they still innovated and lead with not only beautifully designed machines outside, but also inside.

[@kentlisius7675]

If you were looking for something that would help you with a web browser operating system they are really good but all the slots are taken for starting new businesses so it's not as magical as other macs that still serve special purposes in science!

[@PannyLanny]

Just curious, why not install an ssd instead of that old hdd? You already seemed to replace the old cell, why not replace the hdd with ssd as well?

[@cosminmilitaru9920]

Rammstein was completely unexpected, lol. Awesome!

[@PimpinBassie2]

I've got 2 of the matching 23" displays. One in perfect condition, the other one with a broken "easel". Is there a permanent good solution to fix this. Maybe with a 3D printed part?

[@pasqualedimariano2759]

Rammstein's "Feuer frei" is a killer tune.

[@crisdebug8675]

I remember my dad telling me about how he used to work at the marketing department on a company and all the hoops he had to jump to be able to print flyers and all with a crappy PC, but how it wouldn't be a problem because "the most powerful computer at the time was the Macintosh"

[@aisle9]

PKCELL? Surely you mean a pucksell!

[@OrbvsTomarvm]

o mg he can play a piano ogm i tink he mussed be da genisis

[@VichoXD14]

do you know dankpods? he lives in adelaide

[@PivisHanak]

How did you achieve this blurry effect on close up? I think it is a huge part of early 00s camera aesthetics. Thank you!

[@williama29]

i discovered an intel iMac in the recycling dumpster where i live in 2021 in December then it worked but it was not cleanly wiped the hard drive was not wiped and it was full of dust

[@TomokoAbe_]

I had a Snow Leopard desktop pro--worked perfectly but the operating system was too old that even the browsers did not support it. I remember changing the CPU to its maximum, and the upgrade was minimal. The browsers "worked" for a while until they no longer supported it. THAT is when I threw it in the municipal dumpyard. So even if you got that Power Mac G4 working, you can't really use it.

[@EmergencyChannel]

A handful of modern Linux distros can be installed on PowerPC Macs, which then gives you access to modern browsers and features. Ubuntu supported PowerPC up until 2019 and now there are community made forks for the most recent versions for PPC.

[@TomokoAbe_]

@@EmergencyChannel I'm not a fan of Linux or Ubuntu. Windows based apps such as MS Office, and most games do not support Linux. It does not support Mathematica software.

[@iplyrunescape305]

@@TomokoAbe_ Also that's wrong, a lot of games are supported in Linux now thanks to Steam's Proton layer. The number will only grow.

[@RedditStoryGuy371]

I can't believe that he installed a pkcell into the mac

[@FlintG]

I am still using a mac mini from 2012 which I did recently install Linux mint distro and its actually usable than mac os. I really would love a mac pro desktop though.