6 Signs It's Betrayal Bonding, Not Love

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Psych2Go

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Love and relationships can be complex, and sometimes, what we think is love might be something entirely different. In this powerful video, we shed light on the concept of betrayal bonding, which often occurs in relationships involving narcissistic abuse, emotional abuse, and trauma.
A betrayal bond, also known as a trauma bond, is a psychological phenomenon that occurs when a person forms a strong emotional attachment to someone who is betraying, abusing, or causing harm to them.
If you've ever questioned the nature of your relationship or felt trapped in an unhealthy emotional cycle, this video is a must-watch.
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References:
Carnes, P., Philips, B. (2021). The Betrayal Bond: Breaking Free of Exploitive Relationships. Simon and Schuster.
Freyd, J. J. (1996). Betrayal trauma: The logic of forgetting childhood abuse. Harvard University Press.
Martin, S. (2016 Apr 8). What Causes Codependency? PsychCentral. psychcentral.com/blog/imperfect/2016/04/what-causes-codependency
Saeed, K. (2020 Mar 2). How Betrayal Bonds Keep You Chained to Narcissistic Abuse. Kim Saeed Therapy Blog. kimsaeed.com/2020/03/01/how-betrayal-bonds-keep-you-chained-to-narcissistic-abuse/

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@cheyannewatkinson
@cheyannewatkinson Жыл бұрын
Hits close to home, I was about to break and go back tonight, but I opened up KZbin to get my mind off of it and saw this. Thank you cause it helped me stay on track and put myself first
@squalley
@squalley Жыл бұрын
The universe is awesome 🖖🏽
@jujuoof174
@jujuoof174 Жыл бұрын
Yes, you did the right choice! Gl!!
@aynilaa
@aynilaa Жыл бұрын
This doesn't just apply to romantic relationships. Dr. Freyd's "betrayal trauma theory" states that it's very traumatic if the person who abuses you and your trust is someone you rely on for safety, survival and resources. This includes family, friends and institutions like schools, workplaces, governments, religious groups...
@alliwrites6739
@alliwrites6739 Жыл бұрын
this is my relationship with my dad, and technically my parents too
@DarklyYours
@DarklyYours Жыл бұрын
Yes, family and social structures do this to you too, not just partners and friends.
@Scarahehe-x6x
@Scarahehe-x6x Жыл бұрын
I opened the comment section to see the summary, but then I realised the vid was posted 1 min ago😂
@jellyfishfingernail
@jellyfishfingernail Жыл бұрын
XD
@Psych2go
@Psych2go Жыл бұрын
You joined us so early! 😂 Now that everyone's posted the summary, what do you think about today's topic on betrayal bonding?
@KingFearless
@KingFearless Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Scarahehe-x6x
@Scarahehe-x6x Жыл бұрын
@@Psych2go It's great!
@Scarahehe-x6x
@Scarahehe-x6x Жыл бұрын
@@Psych2go I always loved your videos, that's why I clicked in as soon as you posted the video! 😁
@camel_of_the_mojave8772
@camel_of_the_mojave8772 Жыл бұрын
I did not know anybody could more accurately describe my relationship with my parents. Just a damn shame that nobody in my entire life has actually cared about me.
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 Жыл бұрын
First time I’ve heard of this and I can already sense this is what leads to trust issues
@nickolaszissimos1189
@nickolaszissimos1189 Жыл бұрын
Any type of trauma bonding can be mistaken for love, it is what narcissists, sociopaths, and psychopaths use to get people to believe they love them or are in love with them. It is also difficult to get out of for human beings.
@Shattered_shards
@Shattered_shards Жыл бұрын
1: past/present abuse 2. Codependency 3: manipulation 4: irrational loyalty 5: repeated cycles Hey there, I know u prob won’t read this but, u r more special than you think. Take a break, drink some water, shower, take a walk. Self love is the most important love, I promise. Have an amazing day…if nobody loves you, I do. You are amazing and special and things will get better.
@Psych2go
@Psych2go Жыл бұрын
I read it! Thank you for the encouraging message and for the time stamps. I hope people read it and find encouragement from your words as I also have :)
@A55a551n
@A55a551n Жыл бұрын
I read this
@sava898
@sava898 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Same to you :)
@fiusionmaster3241
@fiusionmaster3241 Жыл бұрын
Read it and all I can say is that I will steal this comment and post it everywhere I can. Have a great day m8
@sxmply_audrey
@sxmply_audrey Жыл бұрын
Really sad that this video didn’t came out early before I knew my best friend was manipulatin me.
@applentee
@applentee Жыл бұрын
I had this on a long distance relationship. It was hard for me for almost a year being with him. It felt one sided, I invested time on someone who kept saying they'll love me back but that never came much to fruition. I'm no longer with them but it really took me a long time to forget about what they've done. Till this day, I sometimes get flashbacks to that time of my life and it brings me down a little.
@NarcoManVideos
@NarcoManVideos Жыл бұрын
Going through that now! It hurts like heck.
@megabyte01
@megabyte01 Жыл бұрын
Long distance relationships are hard. I was in one for three years, with a large break in the middle. It only works if you have strong communication and a plan to be in the same zip code.
@gary_something_else6417
@gary_something_else6417 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I have a friend who's mom screams symptoms of this, her moms boyfriend on several occasions has threatened not only her safety but the safety of her children, if you ask me there are literally no other explanations as to why she wouldn't throw his ass to the streets or just straight up call the cops on him.
@chisaten
@chisaten Жыл бұрын
I feel there was codependency in the relationship which I just left, but it was different than what is described in this video. I was having bad problems with depression and conflict with my parents; he was afraid of being alone after being married for thirty years, then his wife leaving him for a man she had been cheating on him with. We were depending on each other for support and understanding, but he was at the point of wanting me to cut myself off from other people and only focus on the two of us.
@hyliastone286
@hyliastone286 Жыл бұрын
He was absolutely going to abuse you, from the sounds of it.
@Kiannamonroeee
@Kiannamonroeee Жыл бұрын
Girl …..you dodged a billet by the sound of it , anyone trying to isolate you is trying to abuse you …..honestly most men don’t have positive intents when it comes to a woman ….so BEWARE
@Caribbean.Galaxy
@Caribbean.Galaxy Жыл бұрын
@@hyliastone286be specific on your claim, how so?
@ElleS572
@ElleS572 Жыл бұрын
​@@Caribbean.Galaxyisolating a partner is abuse.
@dreams5672
@dreams5672 Жыл бұрын
That’s really sad. I hope he can find comfort and healing in his alone time until he can open up for another relationship. A mistake men do is jumping into relationships without taking time alone to heal and it ends up causing a lot of emotional baggage for the next woman to deal with. It’s not fair to you.
@justsomegirlwithamoustache
@justsomegirlwithamoustache Жыл бұрын
I went through this with someone I used to love, overly depend on, realized and stopped chasing after them, worked on myself became better. I started avoiding them. Randomly, they came back to me apologizing for everything they've done. I was skeptical at first until I realized they were being genuine. They weren't happy with who they are and that they hurted many people in the past. They started improving themselves making amends with those they hurted. We got closer than ever, and our relationship was a two-way street. I didn't feel stupid anymore and we'd advise each other in situations. They're one of the only people I truly feel safe with. Tbh It feels like a dream come true but I can't help but worry if this was a mistake. What if I get hurt again?
@zoto4064
@zoto4064 Жыл бұрын
whether u get hurt again, u wont know till u find out. But its good that u toke care of yourself and gave the that person a chance after they realized that they also needed to change for the better, the best advice i can give u is: communicate those fears but at the same time be willing despite ur fear, to trust and love, therefore risk getting hurt("I didn't feel stupid anymore and we'd advise each other in situations. They're one of the only people I truly feel safe with" that u described ur feelings also with those words shows u the relationship really feels different from before and not just the same, again its understandable that u are afraid of getting hurt again). If u get hurt to much again try to talk but if its something u cant forgive also communicate that but then decide what's best for u. hope this was a lil helpful for u, have a good time
@justsomegirlwithamoustache
@justsomegirlwithamoustache Жыл бұрын
@@zoto4064 yeah your right, thank you for telling me this. I'm trying my best to forget the past and move on. Sometimes it's hard but I'll get there! He's honestly so sweet and I'm really lucky to have him
@PsycheQuotient
@PsycheQuotient Жыл бұрын
You explained it very well👌
@tgonfluffyg8395
@tgonfluffyg8395 Жыл бұрын
These videos keep making me more aware that I’ve been messed up bad. At least I took some power back by hardly ever talking to my parents. And I’m glad I broke up with my first gf the way I did just wished it didn’t took 6months but I was a teen 😅
@s7449
@s7449 Жыл бұрын
I have never heard of this, but it is so relatable in my life. I believe most of my relationships are like this.😢
@vv-kq4qo
@vv-kq4qo Жыл бұрын
Had this with a girl I went on a few dates with :/ we bonded over similar family backgrounds, had dinner with her for a 3rd time and only found out the reason she kept me around is she wanted my validation and by that time only then I found out she was seeing someone at the same time and I got gaslighted when she kept saying she was too busy to see me before then. The pain was really too much and only then multiple friends told me to cut her off and I could see nothing wrong with all the manipulation she did. Better 6 months of pain rather than 2 to 10 years of a wasted and ruined life. Jeez that was purely horrifying.
@JadeLight69
@JadeLight69 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I had a friend who had me experience what betrayal bonding was like, even though I told them I was aroace, they didn't listen to me and kept pushing me to be in a relationship, not only that they made it look like they were the ones betrayed in front of my friends when I rejected them, if anyone is going through something similar or has had problems, you're no alone, there will be people who will bring you down every once in a while, and even though it may can be hard to let go sometimes, it will really help you feel safe and happy with yourself
@BXD99_
@BXD99_ Жыл бұрын
The time but stamped 1: past/present abuse 0:41 2: codependency 1:26 3: manipulation 1:58 4: power imbalance 2:37 5: irrational loyalty 3:04 6: repeated cycles 3:24
@Psych2go
@Psych2go Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the time stamps!
@thetraveler7368
@thetraveler7368 Жыл бұрын
Betrayal bonding also sounds a lot like the cycle of DV.
@pointysidedown
@pointysidedown Жыл бұрын
It is the same cycle as dv. It used to be called trauma bond but I guess betrayal bond is the new phrase
@yukio_saito
@yukio_saito Жыл бұрын
And also don't hesitate to leave from them 🚶‍♀💨💨
@squalley
@squalley Жыл бұрын
Didn't know how much I needed this right meow 🖖
@nazeehaislam138
@nazeehaislam138 Жыл бұрын
Hey Psych2go, I was thinking you could make a video about night depression and It's coping strategies? Anyways Thank You Psych2go ❤
@TheTopNotchOne
@TheTopNotchOne Жыл бұрын
You can ask Jesus to help you defeat you're Night depression.
@Mochi-re8cv
@Mochi-re8cv Жыл бұрын
@@TheTopNotchOne ask god Jesus is a messenger
@TheTopNotchOne
@TheTopNotchOne Жыл бұрын
@@Mochi-re8cv But Jesus is God.
@jackhhun2698
@jackhhun2698 Жыл бұрын
This happened to me with my aunt and it happened to my aunt with someone she loved so she ended up doing it to me and its been heartbeaking watching how she changed and did so much to harm me
@AshendrisSilvermist
@AshendrisSilvermist Жыл бұрын
This has been my life for almost 19 years now... and I feel so trapped in the repeating cycle. I should have left when I was young and able bodied but now I'm disabled with chronic health problems and no where to go
@cutecharacterpower
@cutecharacterpower Жыл бұрын
Wow, that 1st one is me and my parents !
@aynilaa
@aynilaa Жыл бұрын
Same here. Betrayal trauma impacts you most when people close to you abuse your trust. But it can also happen in institutions like school. I couldn't trust my teachers either.
@Mochi-re8cv
@Mochi-re8cv Жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing me how unstable my relationships might get in the future no but FR great video
@jujuoof174
@jujuoof174 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for helping us identify those kinds of things! Ya'll saved so many people!
@gamingturkey57
@gamingturkey57 Жыл бұрын
So, I'm aroace, so I don't think I've romantically loved before, but can these points also relate in friendships? I've got a manipulative friend and their behaviour resonates with most of these points
@renstrism
@renstrism Жыл бұрын
Not AroAce, but I am questioning the same thing right now. I assume it would be the case in some way. I don't know, I'm just worried..
@gamingturkey57
@gamingturkey57 Жыл бұрын
@@renstrism yeah, I suppose it could and you can tell me about anything worrying you : )
@rpggames7314
@rpggames7314 Жыл бұрын
wasnt love but an unstoppable friendship, a brotherly bond until turned out they were an asshole all along, turned my back against friends who kept exposing him (he gaslit me into believing they lied), talked shit behind my back and now that schools back they act like nothing happened between us and he keeps insulting my pals who exposed his ass
@aztn19
@aztn19 Жыл бұрын
When we confused “we’ve been through so much together” with “he/she’s put me through so much” - it’s a hard lesson learned. I even tried marrying mine, but she tried pinning a baby on me that she made with someone else to me to finally realize how much of a user she was.
@johndoe5432
@johndoe5432 2 ай бұрын
Holy crap I'm literally doing this right now. I need to get the hell out of this relationship.
@extraordinarynt4317
@extraordinarynt4317 Жыл бұрын
I just realised i did this, a lot. And now i feel bad. I have only 1 friend ive known lile 7 years now. I vented to her daily about how im having a bad day, how pathetic i really am, and all of that stuff just to get an "i cared for you" kind of text because that is what i was craving all these years. I yearn for love and attention so badly id do anything. i feel terrible, i literally manipulate her into staying with me even though she doesnt want to. I hate that i can be such a horrible person without even knowing it. I hate this god awful feeling so fucking much
@MegaCyberleader
@MegaCyberleader Жыл бұрын
I positively Love these, and have been inspired.
@CenteredCircles
@CenteredCircles Жыл бұрын
7. Your videos has helped me alot. Thank you.🙏🏻
@rezracer6986
@rezracer6986 Жыл бұрын
Son of a biscuit eating bulldog, my biological father forced a betrayal bond with me as a child after my parents divorced
@peachnecctar1658
@peachnecctar1658 Жыл бұрын
unfortunately every single one of these i was able to tick off.. im constantly surpised with new horrible things that hes done but at this point ive become so numb to it. He ends up claiming he has "bad memory" and just cant remember why he did those things but i know its just his way of getting out of it. I love him but i think maybe i am just stuck in the cycle. I have no friends left cause he ruined my relationships with all of them in different ways so without him id see my mom and thats it for the rest of the year, so staying in a way feels safer and more comfortable.
@DanteDMCry34
@DanteDMCry34 Жыл бұрын
ouch, guessing this is what happened with my ex
@saira510
@saira510 Жыл бұрын
It's a coincidence that I may be (accidentally) forming a betrayal bond with my crush
@rustthelion8270
@rustthelion8270 Жыл бұрын
This perfectly describes my ex when i was in a relationship with her. My mom is a legend for heloing me break up with her.
@thztan7492
@thztan7492 Жыл бұрын
I do think this is happend a bit to someone i know
@marcusverschollen9634
@marcusverschollen9634 Жыл бұрын
Please make a video about Misanthropy.
@lookingdeep900
@lookingdeep900 Жыл бұрын
This is why I have trust issues with everyone 🙃
@MemeLord-it4mj
@MemeLord-it4mj Жыл бұрын
Can you please make a video about signs of mental illness? I think something's up with me.. :(
@beeralwaysallthetime9271
@beeralwaysallthetime9271 Жыл бұрын
So that is what I am doing.
@haydenpearson9545
@haydenpearson9545 Жыл бұрын
Why do we experience everything else but love
@buggus0034
@buggus0034 Жыл бұрын
Because love has never been unconditional.
@TheTopNotchOne
@TheTopNotchOne Жыл бұрын
​@@buggus0034Jesus Christ loves all of us unconditional.
@buggus0034
@buggus0034 Жыл бұрын
@@TheTopNotchOne Jesus is better than us.
@TheTopNotchOne
@TheTopNotchOne Жыл бұрын
@@buggus0034 Amen
@lincolnlanier8596
@lincolnlanier8596 Жыл бұрын
Goddamn this all clicked with me
@cookieepasel2406
@cookieepasel2406 Жыл бұрын
Can this happen in platonic friendships too? Because I feel some of these with friends
@jonalyndelacruz2754
@jonalyndelacruz2754 Жыл бұрын
Hi!, is there a possible way you can make a video about a 1 month friendship in roblox that has been broken up?, i would like to know ways on how to get over mine
@nabilsadik
@nabilsadik Жыл бұрын
Please make a video on 'How to overcome the fear of approaching crush'
@mrnice7570
@mrnice7570 Жыл бұрын
Have a wander round a graveyard and remind yourself one day soon you will no longer be here, public opinion, rejection, reputation are as nothing compared to character, instead of looking for the one, focus on becoming the one then they will approach you
@nabilsadik
@nabilsadik Жыл бұрын
@@mrnice7570 I tried that way. But no one approaches. Better tell me how to do that
@mrnice7570
@mrnice7570 Жыл бұрын
@@nabilsadik zanshin , or the art of doing by not doing, stop looking/needing anyone else focus on your own happiness and development outside of ANY form of external validation. When your vibration reaches a certain frequency, woman ( not necessarily the one your thinking of ) will start approaching you I guarantee it! Just remember attachment is unhealthy and happiness truly is something you create for yourself it's not found on any other people. So not make a home for yourself in the hearts of others.
@shawnciantar1953
@shawnciantar1953 Жыл бұрын
betrayal bonding means that your new boyfriend doesn't like you he went for his ex or new girlfriend
@vrfrenzy8451
@vrfrenzy8451 Жыл бұрын
o I've never heard of betrayal bonding, cool
@QBiPs
@QBiPs Жыл бұрын
Wait can betrayal bonding happen between parents and their adult child
@teeade
@teeade Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on family love? I don't believe I love my family (apart from my mum). I don't love my family just because we're blood; it's too strong of a word for me. Is that problematic?
@teegutta4689
@teegutta4689 Жыл бұрын
HEY, GOOD MORNING MY FRIENDS AND SO CALLED FAMILY, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THIS APPLIES TO FAMILY,AS WELL, I'M TRYING TO GET OVER MY MOTHER TELLING ME THAT SHE WISH SHE. NEVER HAD ME, IT'S HARD AS HELL TO BE AROUND HER. PLEASE KEEP ME IN YOUR PRAYERS. WELL I HAVE TO GO BACK TO LAY DOWN SO I CAN GET UP AND GO OUT TO KEEP AWAY FROM THE CERAP IN THE HOUSE INTELL LATER ON MY FRIENDS AND SO CALLED FAMILY. TEE 🙏💯🙏💙💪👻
@teegutta4689
@teegutta4689 Жыл бұрын
hey bor you have to, love your self because your family doesn't.
@wilfred2555
@wilfred2555 Жыл бұрын
Hey my sister just came out as gay and I don’t know how to talk about it with her
@icednightcores
@icednightcores Жыл бұрын
There’s not really anything to talk about, it’s just a fact lmao
@The_Fact4You
@The_Fact4You Жыл бұрын
wow...
@LiberalPointman
@LiberalPointman Жыл бұрын
I legitimately love my s/o, though... Or is it just being exacerbated by betrayal bonding?
@TheNonameHousehold
@TheNonameHousehold Жыл бұрын
So my sibling has an irrational loyalty towards her? that explains their minor defenses of her.
@applentee
@applentee Жыл бұрын
Wait the heck, the first part already called out what I said when I was like little. Well not that s maybe around like 14 ~ 15.
@meeatyuwhole3889
@meeatyuwhole3889 Жыл бұрын
Yo
@jellyfishfingernail
@jellyfishfingernail Жыл бұрын
hi
@justthinkingaboutallofit
@justthinkingaboutallofit Жыл бұрын
Could you maybe split this up not to be focuser on a partner bit more on the family and parents with the examples. The way you started it. Then i can say nothing but justblet someone intelligent who is the cinderella of the family maybe realise something..
@Tired3120
@Tired3120 Жыл бұрын
Hmmmm 😅i kinda get it
@eldokaungpyae2317
@eldokaungpyae2317 Жыл бұрын
Can you tell me that My crush likes me in middle school not high school 13 to 14 years old.
@boo-sd9ci
@boo-sd9ci Жыл бұрын
My crush likes me in middle school not high school 13 to 14 years old
@jackiecastillo2484
@jackiecastillo2484 Жыл бұрын
Betrayal bonding first time i here of this such thing👀 awk and v weird.
@Bawak27
@Bawak27 Жыл бұрын
i am doctor
@Psych2go
@Psych2go Жыл бұрын
hi doctor!
@adimemo2134
@adimemo2134 Жыл бұрын
:)
@marsultortheavenger409
@marsultortheavenger409 Жыл бұрын
Jesus, this perfectly describes women
@BXD99_
@BXD99_ Жыл бұрын
I’m the 8th comment! Just claiming my spot
@yeetedoffabridge6946
@yeetedoffabridge6946 Жыл бұрын
1st
@geemail369
@geemail369 Жыл бұрын
Oof, that sounds scary familiar. 👀
@kindCyclop
@kindCyclop Жыл бұрын
Is there a way i can try to animate in one of your video??? :"))
@Bluebouse-cs7ok
@Bluebouse-cs7ok Жыл бұрын
@CBMOA
@CBMOA Жыл бұрын
Time skips 0:42 Past/Present Abuse 1:25 Codependency 1:58 Manipulation 2:36 Power Imbalance 3:02 Irrational Loyalty 3:23 Repeated Cycles I’m afraid of going into the repeated cycle
@Psych2go
@Psych2go Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the time stamps. Are you currently finding yourself in a repeated cycle?
@yukio_saito
@yukio_saito Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the timestamps ⏲ Yes. The repeated cycle is the worst. Get out of the vicious cycle and don't return to the initial step.
@DodongoManoof
@DodongoManoof Жыл бұрын
I'm afraid of that, too... 😬
@sava898
@sava898 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@CBMOA
@CBMOA Жыл бұрын
@@Psych2go Right now, I just felt… nothing As much as I try to stay positive, things took turn for the worse I get that it’s life, it doesn’t mean it should’ve pushed me down or away but who knows
@joshy2joshy
@joshy2joshy Жыл бұрын
In my case, I had a girlfriend who said she loves me constantly, one day she basically stopped wanting it, she knew she was ruining it and she still ended it. We are still talking daily as if we never broke up. She's so depressed of life and fed up of everything, she said that I will be happier without her, that I will get someone better than her, she didn't feel good enough. So after 1 day of not expressing my love to her and just being her friend and trying to look after her mental health. At night she said "Do you love me?". I said yes and she said she does too. "But I can't be with with you" because "this will just happen again". Where she feels like she wants love but pushes it away.
@ElleS572
@ElleS572 Жыл бұрын
What is her relationship like with her parents?
@surainihashim
@surainihashim Жыл бұрын
Maybe she have trust issues and people she trust especially parents broke that.If you are willing to be with her,try you know.Make her see what she is worth in your eyes.Good luck.
@HenryYair
@HenryYair Жыл бұрын
I think that she wants the unconditional love, that u love her because herself, not because what she did for u. I can see that she is lacking self-worth and think that she can't be able to make u happy or enough for u. Just remain her that u love love her unconditionally, and be patient with her, make her believe that she is enough. Best wishes for your relationship!
@dreams5672
@dreams5672 Жыл бұрын
She def has a side dude lol
@Mochi-re8cv
@Mochi-re8cv Жыл бұрын
I think I’m also like that if a had anyone a friend or smth in my life even family I won’t ever believe that someone can love me for who I am
@tobiastk5391
@tobiastk5391 Жыл бұрын
This is EXACTLY what happened with a person i have now gladly cut out of my life. Every single thing said in this video brings back memories from this person.
@jujuoof174
@jujuoof174 Жыл бұрын
Great job! I am super happy and proud of you for getting out! ^^
@DeletedCharacter
@DeletedCharacter Жыл бұрын
Man, sometimes I forget just how helpful this channel can be sometimes. I have an ex that I've been reflecting on as of late, and this video made me realize that I did infact have a betrayal bond with them. All of the points in this video I related to except for maybe the irrational loyalty, and that's kinda just because I didn't have anyone to turn to at the time except for someone who was also dating them and also had a toxic relationship with them. (the 3 of us were in a polyamorous relationship together) We would constantly have this cycle of them being really kind and caring with me, they would slowly become passive aggressive with me and I would notice something was off, but I would try my best to keep quiet so we could keep the peace, things would start to bubble up until we would either have an argument or I'd have no choice but to confront them about it and they'd get upset at me for it. Then they'd refuse to talk to me the next day or even maybe multiple days after we argued, making me freak out in fear due to my abandonment issues. When I'd finally get them to talk they'd guilt trip me and insult me with things that I still hold onto to this day. I'd force myself to not defend myself at all and instead take all the blame and be the one to apologize for everything just so they wouldn't leave. and after, the cycle would continue. They would always tell me that "of course I'm mean, and lash out a lot, and need a lot of time away from things, I have anger issues." But anger issues doesn't make emotionally abusing me okay.
@Dave-bm9gb
@Dave-bm9gb Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say that it's really brave of you sharing this. I genuinely hope you're in a better place today.
@jujuoof174
@jujuoof174 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this. Please get out of this terrible cycle. I know it's super hard, but you can do it. Even if being alone isn't easy either, it's far better then staying with them. Think about it. All the difficulty in cutting them off forever and blocking and leaving them without warning is nothing compared to all of the pain you've already been trough. You can do this, I believe in you. And I am super proid of you for realising your situation.💖💖
@DeletedCharacter
@DeletedCharacter Жыл бұрын
@@jujuoof174 This is really sweet of you but I'm already out of this relationship and I've cut ties with them. Although I'm still dealing with the emotional baggage of it I'm doing much better now. I've just kinda been realizing just how toxic this relationship was now.
@merilwen
@merilwen Жыл бұрын
This was how my ex kept hold of me - co-dependency and love-bombing, with some gaslighting.
@A55a551n
@A55a551n Жыл бұрын
Timestamps 1). Past/present abuse 0:41 2). Codependency 1:25 3). Manipulation 1:59 4). Power imbalance 2:36 5). Irrational loyalty 3:03 6). Repeated cycles 3:23 Hope this helps you out. Hope you have a nice day. Sorry this is so late. 💙💙💙💙💙💙
@unknown11215
@unknown11215 Жыл бұрын
Cheers
@A55a551n
@A55a551n Жыл бұрын
@@unknown11215 not a problem happy to help
@chrisbsgr.383
@chrisbsgr.383 Жыл бұрын
Okay
@A55a551n
@A55a551n Жыл бұрын
@@chrisbsgr.383 ???????
@sava898
@sava898 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@petra5499
@petra5499 Жыл бұрын
Thx, good explanation also why it is hard to get out such a relationship.❤
@ananyade368
@ananyade368 Жыл бұрын
Most people I have come across don't even know or are too scared to admit to even themselves that they are bring abused. Such people can't be helped. It's sad to watch their condition.
@aynilaa
@aynilaa Жыл бұрын
That's what Dr. Freyd calls "betrayal blindness". If you'd acknowledge the abuse, it'd also mean your relationship should probably end. And to avoid that, you minimise what's happening.
@niasiamack9333
@niasiamack9333 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like my mother she did all this to me she always lies to me now i have trust issues
@aynilaa
@aynilaa Жыл бұрын
Same here. Neither my parents nor my teachers at school were people I could trust.
@RissieW
@RissieW Жыл бұрын
Is there one for trauma bonding vs love as well?? Or is this pretty much the same thing????
@squalley
@squalley Жыл бұрын
I tried explaining this to my my wife. But I “aparairantly” need to see a better therapist 😳😒😔
@Cherrylime_Studios
@Cherrylime_Studios Жыл бұрын
The fact that some of these signs describe nearly all of my friendships is… worrying…
@F_NerdShark
@F_NerdShark Жыл бұрын
Anyone else with autism suddenly realise that this was the reason behind literally all your past relationships
@TheTopNotchOne
@TheTopNotchOne Жыл бұрын
If you're life is falling apart, turn to Jesus Christ. He can help you.
@maryannewelch804
@maryannewelch804 Жыл бұрын
I did not realize there was such a thing(betrayal bonding) That explains alot
@johnbright5735
@johnbright5735 Жыл бұрын
hello how are you doing today?
@maryannewelch804
@maryannewelch804 Жыл бұрын
@@johnbright5735 good mostly😊
@johnbright5735
@johnbright5735 Жыл бұрын
@@maryannewelch804 ok nice,so where are you chatting from?
@christophergraves6725
@christophergraves6725 Жыл бұрын
Co-dependency is misdefined in this video. Being Co-dependent is when one person, say, is addicted to drugs and the person who cares deeply for him/her facilitates the addict's drug usage thereby worsening the addiction and creating other problems as well. Then we say that both are "co-dependent" on the illicit drug. Co-dependency is not being extremely intimate emotionally with only one person. Being close to one person or having a small circle of intimates reflects natural differences in temperament. Some people are more passionate than others and some people simply are more comfortable with few intimate bonds that are more intense. Now, it is possible to feel love or attachment to another person that is out of balance. That has more to do with the ordering of one's loves. Augustine discussed a properly ordered love life--first love for God, then love for one's family then close friends and on down the line with others whom you are not so close with but still have some rapport with.
@CPorter
@CPorter Жыл бұрын
Why can people be horrible
@TheReddDevil666
@TheReddDevil666 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm new. Um, I have a question: What do you do when your mom is doing all that, but you're way too young to leave?
@ginsakata6119
@ginsakata6119 Жыл бұрын
Wtf why you upload it at perfect moment
@ariban
@ariban Жыл бұрын
Listen! Just today I had to delete this guy who is trying this nonsense on me 😅. I recognized something was off with him and just knew that it felt like he was being manipulative. But this! 👏 this is it!
@pointysidedown
@pointysidedown Жыл бұрын
Is betrayal bond the new term for trauma bond?
@aynilaa
@aynilaa Жыл бұрын
Dr. Freyd's concept is called "betrayal trauma". It describes how abuse is even more traumatic if the abuser is a person/ institution close to you and someone you rely on.
@pointysidedown
@pointysidedown Жыл бұрын
@@aynilaa like a trauma bond?
@aynilaa
@aynilaa Жыл бұрын
@@pointysidedown While 'betrayal trauma' describes the trauma itself, 'trauma bond' is the relationship between the abuser and their victim. It's a mix of abuse and positive experiences in between, so many people get stuck in it.
@MapleSyrup6996
@MapleSyrup6996 Жыл бұрын
OMG NEW VID
@alliwrites6739
@alliwrites6739 Жыл бұрын
you just described my parents relationship
@aaishasingh3565
@aaishasingh3565 Жыл бұрын
It's very important to stay far away from these people. They just keep doing it over and over. They can't help it and don't care to fix it even if they say they do. ☠️
@johnbright5735
@johnbright5735 Жыл бұрын
hello how are you doing today?
@MrCurlz
@MrCurlz Жыл бұрын
Freyd was right
@Magical9081
@Magical9081 Жыл бұрын
Gurll keep going!!! You saved my life and you really inspired me! Please I'm a big fan post more videos!! I lope youu
@ScarletFrost-fu6tj
@ScarletFrost-fu6tj Жыл бұрын
Looks like someone did a good research
@aashycoconut
@aashycoconut Жыл бұрын
Ok but imagine if the thumbnail was Denji and Makima
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