Neseret Bemient | Why This Psychiatric Nurse Left After 17 Years | Psychology Is Podcast 67

[@lindsaygraham9115]

Im 100% north western European descent and have had severe side effects from EVERY psych med I’ve ever taken. This is my 5th time trying to taper Valium prescribed for PTSD. I’ve been on multiple psych meds over the past 15 years that only made me worse!! I also developed medication induced Lupus from Lamotrigine. You said it right with chemical lobotomy. Thanks for coming on this channel and speaking out!

[@NeseretBemient]

You're most welcome. I am so sorry for what you went through. It sounds like an absolute nightmare. Lamotrigine almost killed me on the lowest dose (12.5mg). Within a couple of weeks I developed a rare adverse reaction called Steven Johnson's syndrome. I was covered in rash and felt like my skin was on fire, along with awful flue like symptoms. I cringe when I look back. How are you doing these days?

[@lindsaygraham9115]

@ Thanks for your reply! I was so afraid of getting SJS as well and am so sorry you went through that. My Dr.’s were mainly using Lamotrigine to mask my symptoms of akathisia and multiple others from being CT’d from 3mg/tid Xanax back in 2012 prescribed for PTSD. It did make me feel better in some ways, but I kept having strange side effects that were ignored every time I brought them up. They raised my dose to 300mg and a few months in I noticed major changes in my eye sight, delayed physical reactions(pickleball), rash, and then severe pain in every joint of my body. My ANA and C-reactive protein were through the roof. I was taken off immediately which is a mental crash that I don’t wish on anyone!! My vision wasn’t great before, but is now much worse. I still don’t feel like I’m 100% after this reaction(it’s been almost 2 years) and I still have an elevated ANA, but no one knows why. 🤷‍♀️ I’m now off all anti-depressants and mood stabilizers that I had been on for years. I’m down from 30mg diazepam to 24mg and also take propanol 40mg bid and hydroxyzine prn for sleep. I still have akathisia, panic attacks, agoraphobia, anhedonia, movement disorders, and depression. I have a great Dr. who diagnosed me with FND, but we both know it’s from the meds!! On meds I can appear very normal, but I’m definitely severely damaged from these meds. I went from working with disabled children to being disabled myself. I can’t work at this time and am praying that my brain will heal so I can get my life back. Praying that you will have a complete recovery. God Bless! 🙏🏻❤️

[@NeseretBemient]

@@lindsaygraham9115 My heart goes out to you. What you've been through and continue to endure sounds so terrifying and painful. Recovery on its own would be a full time job. But having the opportunity to engage in your livelihood stolen from you is just an awful cost of reckless prescribing. People lose their sense of identity, jobs, relationships, money - all because of the ignorance of prescribers. I do believe the human brain and body are incredibly resilient. The fact that you're still here after all that has transpired also shows your strength and fortitude. Not to say that it's easy. You're still having to live with the aftermath of the effects of those drugs which sound unbearable. What avenues of healing have you explored beside the traditional route? If you have the desire to heal and get your life back, then that to me is a sign that it is possible for you. There are no hopeless people or situations.

[@NeseretBemient]

@@lindsaygraham9115 I'm so sorry that you're going through all of this. It sounds like you've done a pretty great job advocating for yourself but you're also greatly impacted by everything that has happened. I believe our brains and bodies are incredibly resilient and have the capacity for healing. Keep going.

[@lindsaygraham9115]

@@NeseretBemient Thanks for the encouragement!! I’ve been watching your podcast and really enjoy it. Keep up the good work!! ❤️

[@VallaMusic]

I can confirm everything in this video. I've been a patient in a psych ward. I've been a patient in intensive out-patient therapy. To stay on those meds will make you permanently disabled. To identify with the illness one is labelled with will make you see yourself as forever defective as a person. I got off the meds. Started a new career. Got my life back. Doing great. See myself as a strong, healthy person again.

[@NeseretBemient]

Amazing! I'm so glad you found your way out the psychiatric labyrinth. Health is the greatest wealth and you have it! Enjoy.

[@shawnleong3605]

not sure if i could be like you too.

[@stevekaylor5606]

For starters - if boys are distracted and girls are sad, help them improve on 1 or 2 lifestyle problems, while have them sing in a chorus after school every day. Combine happiness + effort together - to transform subconscious minds and build human potential !

[@NeseretBemient]

@@stevekaylor5606 Kids do need belonging and community. That's lacking in our world today. Online is not the same as having human contact.

[@1grandmam5babies]

What an extremely educational, thoughtful, compassionate, and necessary conversation. Thank you both.

[@NeseretBemient]

You're most welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[@stevekaylor5606]

@@NeseretBemient "Neurotoxic drugs wouldn't work, if they were not neurotoxic!" - Peter Breggin

[@psychologyis]

Thank you!

[@Art-By-Aly]

1:01 this right here is what I’m currently going through . I’m going to give one more place a try , then I’m done with western psychiatric medicine, psychiatric medicine. This last time the meds they put me on while checked myself into the hospital, have caused excessive edema in my limbs and caused rapid heart beat and it was hard to catch my breath . I did visit the ER because of the severe side effect two of the medication had caused . I did stop the medication against medical advise . The swelling / water weight is coming off slowly . Definitely a very scary situation!

[@The_critical_psychiatric_nurse]

Great podcast. 🙌👍 As a UK Psychiatric nurse I feel we need to move away from over labelling and over medicating often normal life struggles. It’s so often one’s environment that’s the cause rather than the individual. We have so much to learn and improve. Simple validation and acceptance is important.

[@NeseretBemient]

Thank you, Laura! Environment is so huge, it’s like the soil we’re planted on. And of course, the water and sunlight and nurture we receive or lack there of. It makes all the difference. Human beings thrive with encouragement, and support. We need acceptance, compassion, and love as much as we need air and water.

[@stevekaylor5606]

@@NeseretBemient You are a human potential coach - like Howard Glasser. His 1st book was Igniting Greatness!

[@NeseretBemient]

@@stevekaylor5606 Thanks! I will have to check that book. I'm a bookworm:)

[@stevekaylor5606]

@@NeseretBemient Thomas Szasz had been writing books since 1961 - about what Psychiatry is effectively doing to human potential!

[@stevekaylor5606]

Until the 1950s, Psychiatrist Harry Stack Sullivan had been given the run of Queen's Hospital. So he would sit down with a patient, have intense conversations with him, arrange some life style changes - while having him join happy clapping + stomping classes, wherein happiness & physiological effort would transform his subconscious!

[@Art-By-Aly]

You said it all!

[@NeseretBemient]

Yes. Hard to get it all in an hour 😅I share more on my channel:)

[@incognito595]

"Thank you for exposing these medical criminals. The Damage they cause is Unfathomable." So very, very, True. *THEY* *ALL* KNOW. THEY HAVE "KNOWN" FOR 65 YEARS. ALL OF IT.

[@NeseretBemient]

It's difficult to quantify a life unlived due to manufactured needless suffering.

[@Art-By-Aly]

Omg , this is exactly what’s going on with me rn!! 😮

[@NeseretBemient]

I hope you have and get proper treatment and support!

[@Art-By-Aly]

@@NeseretBemientworking on it . But the holidays have made it drag out longer than to be expected .

[@NeseretBemient]

@@Art-By-Aly Wishing you a Happy New Year! and speedy recovery:)

[@TheParadoxDestroyer]

Thank you so much for this discussion. As a practicing cooccurring disorders therapist, I am frustrated at the current approach of psychiatry to simply medicate symptoms. Often times this interferes with eventual healing as the effects of drugs interfere with the ability to address root causes for client distress. I, too, am considering leaving the profession out of frustration.

[@NeseretBemient]

Yes. It's incredibly frustrating and creates so much ethical and moral dilemma. I experienced that throughout my career and the last place I worked out was an inpatient adolescence concurrent disorder treatment center and I noticed similar things you're describing. It was the straw that broke the camel's back. It became untenable overtime just to advocate for my clients and their families.

[@TheParadoxDestroyer]

I am glad you are finding holistic ways to continue to be a helper. Your passion and purpose remain. Blessings and success in your current endeavors.

[@NeseretBemient]

@ I heard a wise woman say sometimes our purposes chooses us. I feel compelled to share my story to raise awareness and share hope. That we are all capable of finding our paths to healing and self transformation.

[@stevekaylor5606]

@@NeseretBemient DSM labeling, sedative drugs, brain & speech fog, being kept as a cash cow!

[@stevekaylor5606]

@@NeseretBemient "Produce yourself!" - Marianne Williamson

[@TheParadoxDestroyer]

Thanks! A very valuable and relevant discussion.

[@NeseretBemient]

Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it!

[@psychologyis]

Wow, amazing! Thank you!

[@jamesboswell9324]

The side-effects point is so very important and made me think about the stark difference between our societal attitudes towards legal drugs and recreational and/or illegal drugs. This really clarified something for me. Alcoholism, for instance, would never be sidelined as merely "a side-effect", presumably just because it isn't produced by Eli Lilly or Pfizer.

[@NeseretBemient]

Absolutely. Likewise, there also no empathy or compassion around dependency on psych drugs and any support in coming off them. Some people lose their lives in that process. Awful things such as akathesia are not recognized.

[@stevekaylor5606]

Drug companies, like Mental Health - attempt to secure financial solvency!

[@stevekaylor5606]

@@NeseretBemient People caked in fear, dead heads and the obese - are well managed patients for the Mental Health Industry and its solvency!

[@psychologyis]

Very well said.

[@Art-By-Aly]

Thank you so much for this podcast ! 🫶🏻✌🏻🙏🏻

[@NeseretBemient]

You’re most welcome 🙏

[@psychologyis]

Glad you found value in it!

[@indigobunting2431]

I have never been asked about sexual dysfunction from drugs, or trauma, or assault, or social stress, or dire poverty. [I have all.] My reports of brain trauma from infections were not even recorded. Lifelong sleep problems and migraimes were not addressed.

[@NeseretBemient]

That’s just wild to ignore such life altering events and circumstances. I am sorry you went through all of that.

[@cheetahgoldenfire]

Sorry that so many have been harmed by misused psychotropic medications and incompetent psychiatrist.

[@NeseretBemient]

Yes. Millions more will be prescribed including children. It’s extremely sad.

[@cheetahgoldenfire]

@NeseretBemient, the children do not belong on these medications. In years to come, we will be criticized for this barbaric practice in history books.

[@NeseretBemient]

@@cheetahgoldenfire Agreed. Peter Gotszech calls it “a crime against humanity”. That’s an accurate description!

[@indigobunting2431]

The "consult" in the ER is a nurse talking to the doctor by phone.

[@stevekaylor5606]

'Psychiatry is sincerity, fraud, force and financialization!' - Thomas Szasz

[@NeseretBemient]

Thomas Szasz is a legend and a beauty.

[@stevekaylor5606]

@@NeseretBemient Also - Robert Whitaker, Carolyn Leaf, James Davies, Gary Greenberg...

[@NeseretBemient]

@@stevekaylor5606 Agreed 👍

[@stevekaylor5606]

@@NeseretBemient Mental health is the practice of agapeic love, instead of selfishness. This seems to beyond the grasp of mind-healers - probably because they are Freudian empiricists!

[@cebruthius]

​@@stevekaylor5606 Joanna Moncrieff, Peter Gøtzsche, Peter Breggin

[@Art-By-Aly]

Whoa ! I was just told I had hypothyroidism!

[@Art-By-Aly]

This is why also would be happy if we stop labeling

[@NeseretBemient]

Agreed!

[@cheetahgoldenfire]

The statement about family physicians getting zero training in psychiatry is simply not true. The training is short and varies between different medical schools and residencies but primary care physicians and family physicians generally do receive training. The bold statement about psychiatrists not being trained to diagnose and treat mental disorders is very biased and prejudiced. I say this as someone who left his doctoral program to pursue medical school. I agree that there needs to be judicial use of medications to treat patients and that psychopharmacology therapies should be a last resort in most cases and psychotherapy should be a first line because of the safety and less invasive nature and the fact that most likely the causes are more psychosocial than biological for the majority of mental health. I say this as a licensed therapist.

[@cheetahgoldenfire]

The doctoral program.i left in my dissertation phase was clinical psychology prior to leaving California Southern University I had a 3.92 GPA.

[@incognito595]

IT'S EASY TO FIGURE OUT. FOLLOW THE MONEY.

[@stevekaylor5606]

Disease like Labeling, neurotoxic drugs, disablement and keeping people as cash cows!

[@myronmancan]

The layoffs have happened. People will be in the ERs by March.

[@NeseretBemient]

Job loss is one of the most stressful thing a person can go through. In this day and age, money is a tool that allows people freedom and options. But also you can't put a price on the meaning derived from meaningful work. It's priceless.

[@cebruthius]

​@@NeseretBemient I lost my job and my best friend, who found life to hard to bear, all within a week. My last day at the office and his funeral service were on two consecutive days. I realize now that psychiatry may have played a role in his early departure.

[@NeseretBemient]

@@cebruthius I'm so sorry to hear about your friend and your job loss.

[@Dobermanmomma]

The prescribers should be tried for crimes against humanity!

[@NeseretBemient]

@@Dobermanmomma There’s very little accountability.

[@cheetahgoldenfire]

Let me state that I don't believe primary care physicians are qualified to diagnose and treat mental health conditions.

[@NeseretBemient]

Completely agree. This is not their area of expertise and they don’t have the time to properly assess or monitor.

[@cheetahgoldenfire]

@NeseretBemient, it takes years to understand psychology and other closely related fields. As a licensed therapist, I took a bachelor's and a master's and then two years of supervision and two licensed exams to be able to diagnose and treat mental disorders where the focus is only on understanding and treating pathology as it relates to mental health.

[@NeseretBemient]

@@cheetahgoldenfireExactly my point! And good for you! That sounds intense and a lot of arduous work.

[@jayshepherd9794]

Course they are Qualified to diagnose and treat mental health conditions!! General Practitioners aren't Stupid!!

[@NeseretBemient]

@@jayshepherd9794 They aren't but they don't have the time to really properly follow up and monitor.

[@cebruthius]

Mental health implies sleep health, for which care is extremely lacking. The field of Sleep medicine is basically stuck in the stone age. There are some mavericks whose research I successfully applied to myself, being forced to treat my own sleep disorders. However, the field refuses to improve diagnostics and treatment. Lots of people are stuck with intense suffering, false negative diagnoses or suboptimal treatment. Chronic sleep quality degradation will cause severe mental health problems, and those who remain undiagnosed can fall prey to psychiatry.

[@NeseretBemient]

Totally agree! Well said!

[@WORNTUXEDO]

💘

[@stevekaylor5606]

Mental Health, like regular Health Care and insurance companies - attempts to secure financial solvency!

[@NeseretBemient]

There's such a huge conflict of interest in all of this. A pill for every ill, a cure for none is a great business model, but has little to do with healing.

[@stevekaylor5606]

@@NeseretBemient Of all people - Psychiatrists + doctors should be aware of subconscious motives, and stop preempting therapists' efforts to build human potential !

[@indigobunting2431]

The driving-while-prescribing shrink is a disgrace.

[@NeseretBemient]

That’s often what they do routinely- prescribe recklessly.

[@incognito595]

@@indigobunting2431 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[@Art-By-Aly]

It’s all just human the experience ✌🏻🫶🏻🙏🏻

[@NeseretBemient]

Very true. We're all on a journey of healing, learning, and growth.

[@Art-By-Aly]

@@NeseretBemientabsolutely

[@Art-By-Aly]

Whoa ! I just got off Effexor er ! That feels like a victory for me!

[@NeseretBemient]

It’s indeed! That’s one of the more challenging drugs to taper!

[@Art-By-Aly]

1:01 this right here is what I’m currently going through . I’m going to give one more place a try , then I’m done with western psychiatric medicine, psychiatric medicine. This last time the meds they put me on while checked myself into the hospital, have caused excessive edema in my limbs and caused rapid heart beat and it was hard to catch my breath . I did visit the ER because of the severe side effect two of the medication had caused . I did stop the medication against medical advise . The swelling / water weight is coming off slowly . Definitely a very scary situation!

[@NeseretBemient]

There are 1000 paths to healing. Your path awaits!