A Conversation with Dr. Ben Bikman | Jason Fung

[@Jess_2025]

These two wonderful, intelligent gentlemen have helped me more than I can say. I went from an A1c of 11.5 to 4.9 among many other improvements due to their generosity in sharing their knowledge. Thank you!

[@evanj9097]

Two of the best and brightest minds coming together!!!!!

[@hollyhock3945]

Two of the absolute best docs in breaking things down into every day word pictures everyone can understand!

[@1969spp]

MAHA is very unlikely without having these gentlemen standing at the front of the class. Great talk, but unfortunately I didn't hear anything at all about the dangers with food dyes in breakfast cereal.

[@jeff911rn99]

Nothing at all healthy about breakfast cereal. Avoid the cereal and avoid the dye! :)

[@Hinz2005]

I adore Mr. Bikman. He is steadfast and reliable. He is so thoughtful and deliberate. I listen to everything I can find!

[@AzaleaBee]

"Why We Get Sick" and "How Not to Get Sick" both two good books. The new year is a perfect time to read/reread both.

[@happycamper9421]

Another hour well spent. Thank you doctors Fung and Bikman.

[@anir8023]

Can mister Bikman or dr Fung explain this : If you look at the blood sugar in an animal or person carrying a tumor, their blood sugar generally is at least normal, and even if they don’t eat any sugar, they’ll still keep their blood sugar at about the same level. There have been many attempts to starve a cancer by lowering the blood sugar, but the tumor is sending out signals to provide sugar and protein, amino acids and fatty acids that it needs to grow. And so if you cut off the sugar supply, all it does is send out more stress signals to increase the basically cortisol production to break down your tissues, and it causes tissue wasting, the catexia that is the worst feature of cancer usually. It is produced by the stress hormones which are converting your protein in tissues and fat tissues into food for the cancer to make up for the absence of sugar. One experimenter put in a high concentration of glucose into the artery feeding a tumor in the extremity, and they could get an extremely high concentration of sugar to it, and it killed the tumor without hurting the healthy tissue because the tumor has such an unlimited appetite for anything that it will eat itself to death. In vitro, if you feed unsaturated fats to cancer cells, they’ll eat themselves to death. But in the body, the unsaturated fats are under control. Other tissues will consume them and be injured, and you can’t do anything but stimulate a cancer with the unsaturated fats.”

[@jamesgordon8867]

These are two of the best 😊

[@davidzaharik5408]

That was seriously brilliant. Thank you both.

[@christi3411]

I appreciate both of you so much!

[@markiemark911]

My father-in-law was diagnosed with Type-2 diabetes approximately 8 months ago. His youngest brother suffered and died from Type-2 diabetes issues at the age of 56 a year ago. He had amputation of the toes and foot and finally heart failure. My father-in-law finally took my advice to dump added sugar, reduced carbs, seed oils, processed food and fast food-restaurants. I told him to stick to homemade food cooked in butter or olive oils. He basically went low carb, high in meat-chicken-fish-egg-vegetables and a little bit of fruit. After 8 months of eating this way, he’s no longer diabetic. I am not a doctor but a retired cop with a lot of free time watching KZbin on subjects like Metabolism, Diet/Lifestyle, Fasting . Thank you to experts like Dr. Jason Fung, Dr. Bikman, Dr. Ford Brewer, Dr. Ken Berry, Eric Westman. Nina Telcholz, Paul Saladino, Sten Elbert, Anthony Chaffee, Shawn Baker, Eric Berg, Mark Hyman, Robert Cher’s , Dr. Boz….

[@ahall6157]

Dr. Robert Lustig also.

[@darkglass3011]

Cross Paul Saladino off the list and it's pretty much perfect.

[@louiea4276]

Add Dr Cywes to that list. He's a little long winded at times but he presents a lot of great info, especially his earlier videos on carb addiction. Maintaining a keto or carnivore lifestyle in this day of carb over-consumption can't be accomplished without understanding how we manage our own triggers to food

[@rudolphodegraaf6437]

pottenger's human is the best for me when it comes to fasting.

[@thatchicktoy]

As far as fruit, did he eat berries mostly?

[@zaidizakaria8272]

Awesome Dr 👍👍

[@him-hk7ii]

THIS IS THE GOAT CONVERSATION. B Bikman vs. J Fung. Yall hush so I can listen to them

[@philindeblanc]

Right! AND for bonus Dr Bikman can star in Deadpool next movie!

[@CynCopeland-TheAnswerIsMeat]

a small correction ... it's not a 'vs' conversation, it's a 'AND' conversation! They're on the same page and working together for all of us! ❤

[@him-hk7ii]

@@CynCopeland-TheAnswerIsMeat oh baby girl I am well versed on Metabolic Pathophysiology and the paradigm shift the PhD and MD bring to Obesity and Hormonal Dysregulation. I was referring to anecdotal fine points. By the way I went to Medical and Law school and know what versus mean

[@CynCopeland-TheAnswerIsMeat]

@@him-hk7ii ♥️

[@briangrady5381]

@@him-hk7ii Dr Robert Lustic also went to medical, as well as law school. He’s amazing like these two

[@richevans3643]

Thanks!

[@Anneliese-cl6hk]

I raised 75k and Grace Christina Elizabeth is to be thanked. I got my self my dream car 🚗 just last weekend, My journey with her started after my best friend came back from New York and saw me suffering in dept then told me about her and how to change my life through her. Grace Christina Elizabeth is the kind of person one needs in his or her life! I got a home, a good wife, and a beautiful daughter. Note!:: this is not a promotion but me trying to make a point that no matter what happens, always have faith and keep living!!

[@GabrielRobles-lu4jt]

I've always wanted to trade Crypto for a long time but the volatility in the price has been very confusing to me although I have watched a lot of KZbin videos about it but I still find it hard to understand.

[@LisaBarbara-r4x]

😱Sounds familiar, I have heard her names on several occasions.. And both her success stories on wall street journey!

[@GraceElizabeth-j4q]

Hello from the Texas. I'm not in awe to find positive reviews about Mrs Grace cristiana Elizabeth.. I retired 2 years ago and got his referral from my kid who works in Finance. It's been a smooth ride since then.

[@Wisdom-Icon-p1g]

Finding yourself a good broker is as same as finding a good wife, which you go less stress, you get just enough with so much little effort at things

[@MargaretLovett]

Yeah, 100k from Ms Grace, looking up to acquire a new House, blessings.

[@Ethiopis7]

We love you best together ❤️ 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@EliseManning-xk4dr]

So GREAT to see these TWO Together😂🎉🎉❤❤

[@darkglass3011]

This was a crossover that was long overdue. Ben Bikman has always mentioned about Jason Fung by name and now we get to see them interact with one another.

[@Nanaurbiznaz]

I wish someone would address what the Emmerichs preach about there being a protein called ASP that can help store fat without the presence of insulin. Please doctors...clarify this.

[@kathleen.d.1231]

What a great pair!!!!!

[@larryjhon1482]

Great doctor

[@jc10907Sealy]

GOATS 🐐 🐐 ❤🎉

[@nothanks1673]

I'm glad I stumbled across Dr. Fung. I started searching about fasting wondering what was physically possible and with some of No Lab Coat Required's ideas on salt & electrolyte importance and intake (and wondering how a local Church pastor claimed to fast for seven days). What an eye opener this journey has been especially in regards to how/when/why a body stores and uses fat. I've always assumed the only way to lose weight was simply energy out greater than energy in (i.e. working out more with eating less but more often). Knowledge to when and why a body starts to use fat energy has be an awakening. I'm no longer as worried about old age (quickly approaching for me). I'm trying mightily to change habits now while I have a strong will and good health so when the future arrives, I'll be prepared.

[@Florida_Mollie]

I have all the opposite problems that don’t make any sense. I have an A1C-5.6 , triglycerides 194, LDL 138 and insulin is 3.8. I went low carb because A1C was 6.2(insulin was 6 at that time) I lost 15# and am now at 105(5’4” and no fatty liver or Fat on the inside) do you think I may have something going on with my pancreas? With these problems I would think insulin would be higher. The triglycerides are what I am mostly concerned about. Oh BTW I am a Dr Fung fan for many years. I have been IF for 10+ yrs. Mostly around 19:5 but lately OMAD.

[@zhanna5827]

OMG! This IS happening ! Two of my absolute favorites ❤

[@RedPilled100]

Yep enjoying from Fiji 🇫🇯

[@Catajbr]

Very good information.

[@dagneytaggart407]

These 2 are gladiators

[@normanappleton3627]

Gentlemen, I have recently heard that CT & CAT Scans can also have an effect on Obesogens thus disabling us to lose weight. What do you guys think. This is a genuine enquiry from a Type 2 diabetic. I am subscribed to both of you following Jason with intermittent fasting and Ketovore rather than Insulin or other diabetes drugs, Ben, I have tried Allulose but found my weight started going back up. I had a Melanoma removed 2 years ago and have undergone 4 of those tests at 6 month intervals since then with no metastasis found, thankfully

[@pinkylinao2107]

What a wonderful combination to hear you both discussing IR. I’m overwhelmed with truthful knowledge and deep understanding about the subject matter!!!

[@ปอเต๊อะมอย]

❤❤❤

[@karenohanlon4183]

Torture the Data . Get into bed with that kinda money. Follow the money. These two men are incredibly honest. They are on the same page. I think keto and fasting is the single most important thing to do to get healthy and stay healthy. Love this kind of discussion.❤

[@donna9256]

❤

[@taraaswad4714]

❤️👍

[@robyroby1902]

I can't fast.. yesterday I had my last meal at around 2.30 p.m. and tonight I woke up in the middle of the night starving..... I had a piece of butter and then a glass of hot milk otherwise I couldn't sleep. How can you do?

[@GamingNormaly]

Gotta start easy with a keto diet to get you to run out of glykogen. I'd say 3-4 days without any carbs should do it. Being in a calorie deficit will also help and speed it up.

[@robyroby1902]

@GamingNormaly I did it.... Only keto for 8 days... Maximum 30 gr of carbs a day. I couldn't sleep because I probably had too many proteins and went pee every hour.. but I'm not on a diet, I don't need to lose weight so I have to eat something and if I get rid of carbs I have more fats and proteins and then I can't sleep because my kidneys are too busy and stressed 😥 I'm a fan of keto and fasting because I like to believe they can be beneficial for my longevity and health but I feel great in a low carb.... And maximum doing a 8/16, sometimes 6/18 i.f. no longer

[@PrasantaDatta-f3g]

Autoimmune diseases are on the rise. Is there any relationship between hyperinsulinemia and autoimmune diseases?

[@ChrisEmm87]

Yes my 20 year old neuropathy went away by 90% when i quit carbs. The official diagnosis was shingles virus firing up nerves in the head

[@Jacquie_Kirk_111]

Two dynamos. Thank you!

[@ScienceAppliedForGood]

This was a good interview it summarizes well that contemporary medicine and nutrition science are based on false hypotheses, such as: 1) saturated fat causes heart disease (CVD); 2) insulin is a treatment for Type 2 Diabetes; 3) Energy Balance Model is enough to lose weight; 4) cholesterol is clogging arteries (CVD).

[@jamesgordon8867]

What about mitochondrial function in high blood pressure?

[@ChrisEmm87]

Do type 1 have high a1c?

[@ld9044]

Two of my very favorite Health Warriors at once ❤❤❤ Rock on.

[@Kangoo9]

Can you please share your content in apple podcast

[@askyourselfwhatdoyoureally3542]

Awesome

[@lunzie01]

My mind is blown!! Awesome interview!!

[@mtc-j9i]

36:15 oh my goodness. This has been me!!!!! Hot, stressed out heartbeat, can’t sleep, mind racing…I’ve been having blood sugar highs and lows - I’ve been off my diet. Oh my goodness!!! I thought I was having anxiety attacks. I’ve been thinking I was causing it with my thinking or with my coffee in the morning!!! Please, what is the solution to this!!!????

[@GamingNormaly]

Don't eat so late?

[@LauroFlore]

Great content, as always! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?

[@TonganJedi]

Loved Dr. Bikman's book! Great conversation.

[@jerrycash5606]

How can scientific integrity be restored?

[@mary-gu6gk]

👍

[@sharvo6]

Doctor Fung, you're going to need to fold in uric acid effects into your talks.

[@planner722]

Wish I could get my primary or cardiologist to watch this. I’m tired of hearing from them about statins

[@victoria256r]

The fact that nobody talks about censored book called The 23 Former Doctor Truths by Lauren Clark really gets to me. Always loved people like Lauren,she opens our eyes

[@Amanda_downunder]

I have Grave's disease ! so will be looking more into auto immune factors.

[@perserverance333]

Please address IF and how or whether it decreases testosterone levels.

[@christinawest8314]

Important lesson for all of us who wants to change our life style to get better health and avoid slow death. Thank you for both of you. I have been following you for years and bought your books . Regards from UK ❤❤❤

[@rebeccapenders5050]

I recommend Doctor Bikman and his writing to everyone! Brilliant conversation. Will share ❤

[@moniadjelassi2680]

Thank you very much for this really interesting conversation. Best wishes from Tunisia

[@yvonne3903]

Wow that was good, understood most but as a non medical I'd really like a definition of insulin resistance.

[@supagoon8]

so interesting... this video is gold ... thank you Dr. Fung and Dr. Bikman

[@WORKOUTSOLUTIONS]

✝ MERRY CHRISTMAS ✝ ❤💪🙏✝ GOD BE WITH US AGAINST EVIL AND TEMPTATIONS ✝🙏⛪🕊

[@spadeisspade8840]

Two of my favourites Dr. Fung Dr Bikman

[@JohnsonNestorFamily]

Oh thank you so much! Such a wealth of information! Sharing!👍😃

[@RedPilled100]

Two of my trusted experts in their fields. Enjoying from Fiji

[@Babs-29]

Two of my favorites together.... amazing

[@zewduwondifraw5923]

Essential information and an excellent way of explanation.

[@franzb69]

dude put time stamps or make a bunch of clips with your podcasts/interviews.

[@anniandersen2766]

In Denmark very few belive this to be true 🥺

[@Jimfrenchde]

Dr Ashley Lucas also discusses visceral fat. I'd love to see a discussion with Ben Bikman and Dr Lucas.

[@joemiller9856]

Jason and Ben. I believe the concept that explains why smart clinicians stick with the calorie model is paradigm paralysis. That is it’s not seeing and evaluating data about insulin but rather their inability to even take it in. It’s more than simple bias from their training… at a subconscious level data that conflicts with their “calorie paradigm”. Reference Thomas Kuhn and Joel Barker’s work.

[@1969spp]

Debt stress, greed and/or Lust for money, wealth and social status also, in addition to paradigm paralysis. Funny how many "good" doctors start seeing the light and speaking up towards the end of their careers.

[@oceania1917]

What if you intermittent fast daily and do clean ketogenic diet and fasting insulin is still high at 12? Is it high cortisol? What causes this. Been ketogenic under 20 total carbs 3 years. Insulin still high.

[@katerandall8122]

If u r T2D try a few extended fasts to lower your insulin. I had an hbA1C of 13 and had to work up my fasting muscle from 24 hr fasts to 120h (5 days) to drop my insulin sufficiently to drop Glucose and start losing weight. Now pre-diabetic with HbA1C of 6.4 and when I stray off keto or carnivore plan I only need a 48 hour fast to drop insulin sufficiently to resume losing weight.

[@oceania1917]

@ my A1C is 5.4 so I am not pre-diabetic. My lowest fasting insulin has been 11 and can’t seem to get to single digits. I’m thinking maybe cortisol is high and keeping my insulin high despite ketogenic diet for years and fasting. Unless it just takes more years to bring it down lower.

[@andreastevanovich]

@oceania1917 are you eating at night?

[@oceania1917]

@ no, I usually stop eating at 5pm. My weight is in healthy range and normal blood pressure. All I am guessing is maybe a cortisol issue but idk 🤷‍♀️

[@planner722]

I would be curious how “brown” fat plays into everything.

[@deanmateychuk7751]

Excellent discussion. Learned a lot!