Pt.2 Finding out my massive battery won't pass inspection!

[@boot2165]

Hilarious. Wife sitting in judgement, old car shell sitting on the back patio, various piles of detritus strewn in the backyard in case you ever need anything, mad scientist projects going on everywhere. I like this guy.

[@HBPowerwall]

Thats going to be our electric mini!

[@JohnHoskins42]

"Rules are rules" wears anarchy t-shirt...

[@HBPowerwall]

THAT was not intended got the tee off ebay thought it looked cool at the time

[@payton1284]

Still though.. I love the irony

[@DuncanAitken]

@@payton1284 No, it had heaps of creases in it. I'll see myself out. :D

[@JohnRussellViral]

@@droopy_eyes saying anarchy is childish is quite the statement as you would not be living an easy life right now if not for anarchy

[@Chris-vx5kp]

There are so many governments trying to be nanny-states. If someone wants to live off grid, let them.

[@contessa.adella]

Now I can see why there is a world shortage of Lithium cells…..You’ve got them all 😳

[@HBPowerwall]

this pile is like only 20% of my stash lol

[@arguescreamholler]

You can get a lot from the junkyards but you'll need to clean and test each one. Save a little cash.

[@user2C47]

@@arguescreamholler What mythical junkyards do you speak of? The ones around me only accept scrap steel and don't allow people to pick through them.

[@hondaguy9153]

@@arguescreamholler a wrecked Tesla with these cells will run you $40,000.

[@jollyrajer]

Right between the vape industry and this guy

[@Ulbre]

I bloody love this. I am tuning in because I have arrived at that time in my life where I am investigating solar....and more importantly investigating DIY solar!!!! But I am an Aussie who has lived OS since 1998 and I absolutely am loving the Aussie banter especially with the missus. Made my day. OI OI OI

[@HBPowerwall]

She is no longer.. OI OI OI...

[@danielphillips2855]

Love your work mate, learning so much from you. Your vids are fun, stylish and hugely knowledgable. Your editing style is quick and efficient viewing too which is very nice! Much cheers and looking forward to future projects :)

[@HBPowerwall]

Glad you like them!

[@SabejiThePirate]

"Rules are rules lets follow them by the book" while wearing an Anarchy shirt had me, not gonna lie.

[@HBPowerwall]

Turns out it was a cleaver yt algorithm hack :)

[@nilspeters3486]

This just prove Everything can be done by hard Work and ideas. Moving the Shelter i Would know enough ppl who never thought this could be done by Hand. Great job

[@HBPowerwall]

Anything is possible - your wife just has to let you 😆

[@dcmanuel7232]

I greatly appreciate the time lapse of your dog helping you dig a small trench beside your work....good boy!

[@HBPowerwall]

She is great at creating useless holes i have to mow around!

[@JonesCrimson]

Reminds me of about a decade ago I helped my father move a whole addition which became a shed. We would leverage it up with poles, put some cut lumber under it, and then push it to roll the lumber and move the shed inches at a time. Actually went pretty well.

[@HBPowerwall]

It's only gota work with what you have

[@leec2106]

I moved a box similar to your box by my self, I bought 20 PVC pipes that were a foot longer than my box was wide. Laying them on the ground under the box, I was able to slide it back. Yes, I would uncover a pipe and move back behind. I had 2 sand bags to stop it from rolling too far. One in the back, one in front, move the bag to keep it from rolling back. Move the bag in back, drop in a pipe and keep going. Hardest part was getting all the pipes out from under. A floor jack did the job.

[@HBPowerwall]

Nice

[@jimginnyohio]

Great job Pete! I can see you’re not afraid of some really hard work. Looking forward to seeing that beasty battery on the wall of that nice new container!

[@HBPowerwall]

Ooh i hate hard work.. but people sure like watching someone else do it lol

[@1bigsyd]

Lol to be honest it’s been over 2 years since I last watched one of your videos... I was with you from the very early days... and must congratulate you on how much you have progressed and how polished the videos are now

[@HBPowerwall]

Thanks buddy, not all polished as it take SOO much extra time i really don't have.

[@mkj161996]

Hey mate, noticed your car in the background and recognised it, live just around the corner from you, what are the odds. Where do you get all of your 18650s from? Have a good one.

[@HBPowerwall]

I got all these ones from a local school via. a recycle center..

[@brandonkish5816]

You're not a big enough youtuber to be so stand-offish about a neighbor saying hi.

[@Millsie18]

@@brandonkish5816 says you though, aye? The first time he posts yard video and he gets comments like these

[@TrillShatner]

​@@Millsie18 If he was dead set on priggish anonymity he wouldn't have put his company car in a shot at 7:46

[@HBPowerwall]

Mini is the company car, take 12 seconds to find me on google lol red one not mine.

[@111sicko]

Hey Man over here in NZ seems a bit hard to source 18650s, any main place you suggest i can find some or buy at a price with out loosing a arm and a leg. Thanks

[@HBPowerwall]

It's harder to find them here also - I got these from a local school via a recycler

[@111sicko]

@@HBPowerwall Cheers Love your vids can wait to see ya next one on ya 25kw setup

[@AndrewDanne]

So was there a reason why you cut down a 20ft shipping container and not use a 10ft explosives container? or even a 10ft hi-top or 10ft standard container? as I build with 40ft, 20ft, 10ft and other more exotic configurations. Cutting, welding, painting costs is all.

[@HBPowerwall]

All I could find

[@wreckless_-jl6uu]

hell yea man.. quality of your videos are getting more an more awesome cheers from the USA

[@HBPowerwall]

Much appreciated! its a hell of a lot of extra effort but the stats make me smile

[@benm5913]

Electricity is confusing magic to me. It's amazing to see people DIY this kind of stuff.

[@HBPowerwall]

To be fair it's just + & - so far

[@benm5913]

@@HBPowerwall Nope. Watts, Amps and Voltage mean almost nothing to me. Series and Parallel? The context of those +'s and -'s is completely lost on me. Actually, now that I've said it. Would you ever do an electricity for dummies video?

[@HBPowerwall]

That isn't my type of video i like to film my adventures and really try hard not to teach so much

[@benm5913]

@@HBPowerwall Ah. Dont stress it. I understand the liabilities at least. Lol.

[@TheSphongleface]

You're an idiot. 🤷‍♂️

[@markshaz8691]

When you are completely against giving Tesla a dime 😂😂

[@HBPowerwall]

or don't have enough dime to give them!

[@JamesUKE92]

Very interesting project! I do wonder whether the bus bar exit from each pack should be strain relieved somehow, as it looks pretty easy to accidentally tear up the nickel sheet when handling or connecting up.

[@HBPowerwall]

Yes they should design works but lacks in mechanical strength.

[@njfulwider5]

Another Good one!!! Can't wait to see it done!!

[@HBPowerwall]

You and me both! Then i can bet back to working on the mini

[@LithiumSolar]

SHIPPING CONTAINER!! Finally! :D

[@HBPowerwall]

only because you did hehe

[@BenCos2018]

@@HBPowerwall lol

[@BenCos2018]

@DIY Projects lol

[@asdf1x103]

Простите, я не понимаю английский. Но к увиденному у меня возникли вопросы. А вы учли те пару нюансов к аккумуляторным сборкам? 1) Ток идёт по наименьшему пути сопротивления. Какими идеальными небыли бы аккумуляторы, внутреннее сопротивление у них разное. И из-за этого, при зарядке сборки из тысяч аккумуляторов, больше половины аккумуляторов не зарядятся и до половины заряда, в то время как некоторые аккумуляторы уже будут в перезаряженном состоянии (заряд батареи выше нормы ). И в ходе эксплуатации, медленно но верно, один за другим, аккумуляторы будут выходить из строя, по пути наименьшего сопротивления. 2) Заряд аккумулятора и отдача энергии аккумулятором, происходят за счёт химического процесса происходящего внутри аккумулятора. В ходе этого химического процесса выделяется тепло. Аккумуляторы находящиеся в центре этой аккумуляторной сборки будут перегреваться, от перегрева они потекут, лопнут и вызовут короткое замыкание. Так что, первый вопрос - как вы будете контролировать уровень заряда каждого аккумулятора из тысяч аккумуляторов, что бы не допустить заряда аккумулятора выше нормы? Второй вопрос - как вы будете охлаждать аккумуляторы, особенно те которые находятся в центре?

[@AleksandrArtroom]

В похожих сборках для машин Тесла блоки были сборные с одинаковыми хар-ми. К каждому блоку были подведены датчик и зарядник свой. Все блоки омывались трансформаторным маслом. У меня на шуруповерте стоит всего 3 таких аккумулятора и для них есть балансировка и датчик температуры. А ещё я сам паял такие аккумуляторы, после чего некоторые стали греться и умерли. Их нельзя вообще паять, а у автора половина блоков спаяно. В этом железном контейнере аккумуляторы перегреются на солнце и полыхнут аки ясно солнце. К тому же Б\У аккумуляторы такого типа вообще не имеют смысла т.к. по хар-кам они хуже новых свинцовых аккумуляторов, но гораздо требовательнее к балансировке и заряду. Короче, мужик лучше бы поставил деревянный домик и внутри за те же деньги свинцовые аккумуляторы было бы эффективнее, дешевле и больше было бы ёмкости.

[@asdf1x103]

@@AleksandrArtroom HBPowerwall говорит что - " Total max charge/draw is 0.33 amps per cell... issues disappear " - " Общая максимальная зарядка / потребление составляет 0,33 А на ячейку ... проблемы исчезают ". Реально, в сборках Тесла учли эти факторы и как то решили их - kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipW4ooSQeJeXmac . 0.33 А на ячейку при зарядке , от части согласен, перегрев и перезарядка аккумуляторам не страшны с такими токами. А разрядка, чем он контролирует сколько отдает каждая ячейка? При разряде аккумуляторы тоже греются. + С такими токами, сколько дней будет заряжаться эта установка. " У меня на шуруповерте стоит всего 3 таких аккумулятора " - что это за шуруповёрт такой? В съёмном блоке от шуруповёрта там их 9 или 12 таких батарей. Или вы имеете ввиду мелкий шуруповёрт-отвёртку? В общем, что то не вызывает доверия данная установка. Производители ноутбуков в гарантийном талоне указывали, что гарантия на аппарат 1-2 года, а на АКБ гарантия пол года. Даже если не от перегрева или перегруза, то просто от срока годности эти аккумуляторы начнут выходить из строя. Ещё и Б/У аккумуляторы. У мужика реально слишком много свободного времени и денег заниматься такой фигнёй - паять 19000 батареек :)

[@GM-wc9nn]

There are some aspects of the mount I really do like, but I have serious reservations as well. The first is it seems the cells are being used as part of the mechanical structure (i.e. the weight of the pack is resting on the bottom cells). This could be asking for trouble especially when considering this second issue. A battery wall is a stationary object right? Well the unfortunate reality is this statement is only ~99.999% true. During an earthquake or other natural disturbance, I suspect there is a possibility the packs could simply fall out of the mount. Since we have little to no warning of when these types of events occur, this might pose a serious safety risk. I do like the simplicity of the design and how easy it is to swap packs in and out if needed, but the above concerns would force me to look for ways to modify it so they are addressed. Anyone have any ideas on improvements? If the mount was installed in an electrical enclosure, maybe the door could also act as a locking mechanism to prevent the bottom of the pack from kicking out? PS. Great job on using the shipping container...don’t think you’d have to worry too much about burning something down :) BTW, this is my single biggest fear with building a DIY power wall and still thinking through how to overcome it - unfortunately I don’t think my neighbors or wife would appreciate the shear beauty of a shipping container.

[@kiwiscanwifi]

A simple bracket made of clear plastic strip could be attached to the top/bottom which would secure it in place

[@CRBarchager]

I watch your last video on how you assembled the stack of batteries but I failed to figure out why you would have these batteries in the first place. Is it for power outage where you live or something else?

[@HBPowerwall]

To be honest 4 years ago it started as a joke - it got out of hand - it saved money on my powerbill - it made money on youtube - i couldn't stop ..... it's like a love story lol

[@Peter.Sky.Walker]

I too, hope to someday have a wife as helpful as yours.

[@HBPowerwall]

I hope so too! no really that was like blue moon shit right there lol

[@Shire_Sam]

@@HBPowerwall mi bypass

[@LinkMasterYT]

4:45 they are all helpful - but the useless part predominates... sorry for telling the TRUTH ... understand every guy who is gay ... sorry

[@larrydugan1441]

Spectacular... Judge... Love it!

[@HBPowerwall]

Thank-Yoiu

[@ColinRichardson]

"whose voltage is at least 12 volts" Well, there you go.. Reconfigure the battery to be 3s 40000p and you are exempt. Whoop Whoop

[@HBPowerwall]

NO - look again max 1kwh I need clarification sparkie here in a few days

[@ColinRichardson]

@@HBPowerwall Did you notice the word AND, not OR?

[@HBPowerwall]

I didn't

[@ColinRichardson]

@@HBPowerwall Obviously still consult professionals. As Legalese is a mindfield. But Andrew Reddaway who wrote the other article also seems to believe it is an "and" in his "Overview of the new standard" section

[@sky73x]

I would even argue that the system is a UPS - it's effectively the same bloody thing!

[@1scottburns]

Love the time lapse. Most people have No idea what work really is

[@HBPowerwall]

I can usually tell if i worked hard by the two days in bed recovering lol

[@healeydave]

Fast forward 2 years into the future and Pete is trying to fit in another 10,000 cells and he's cursing he cut the container in half 😂

[@BenCos2018]

why is KZbin telling me this comment has 0 likes even though I just liked it xD

[@HBPowerwall]

Wll the plan started with putting all my cells in there so 75kwh of useable storage BUT might have to change that plan to comply

[@healeydave]

@@BenCos2018 It showing up for me Ben 👍

[@healeydave]

@@HBPowerwall I have a 20ft container at the bottom of my garden that's empty the moment and now considering moving it to use for my powerwall 🙂

[@BenCos2018]

@@healeydave Same here now KZbin decided to break for me lmao It even had my username on this comment as I am C for some reason xD

[@jackcorcoran4152]

How much charge does this hold compared to the tesla powerwall 2? So pretty much how many Tesla powerwall 2s of power does your set up hold?

[@HBPowerwall]

About 2

[@HBPowerwall]

Check out the overview here of the new regulations - renew.org.au/renew-magazine/solar-batteries/new-battery-installation-rules/ and you can download a draft copy of those regulations here - www.smartenergy.org.au/sites/default/files/uploaded-content/website-content/dr2_as_nzs_5139_2019_pc.pdf.pdf

[@rw-xf4cb]

Nanny state and securing jobs for the boys again. Soon you will need to a call in an electrician to put bread and pull toast out of a toaster or make a cup of coffee (unless you use gas stove then its a licensed plumber).

[@HBPowerwall]

I think they had good intentions - doing stuff safer is a thing - we will see how it plays out. I NEED to talk to a sparkie in person and start talking through my plan and make a solid plan to move foward - fingers crossed I can set the standard and help everyone along the way

[@BenCos2018]

@@HBPowerwall do you have a link to part 1 btw?

[@vaguedirector_7342]

Man these rules are harsh, thankfully all my battery builds so far have been portable and as a result don't suffer from these new rules. Seems the best way to still make your own battery systems will be to make it in a big chest and put wheels on it, although that doesn't help if you want to make a powerwall integrated into a house's mains wiring (then again doing that without an electrician was already illegal). This situation seems similar to the FPV drone hobby. When the rules become so extreme that everyone is breaking at least one of them, it becomes easy to ignore them all together.

[@HBPowerwall]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpbRgYytlpVjeaM

[@charleylc]

"My solution to their problem" - that is classic! Good video.

[@HBPowerwall]

sure as hell isn't my problem lol well it kinda is now but ..........

[@handlemonium]

Would building one myself be any more legal/safe than a Tesla Powerwall?

[@HBPowerwall]

Tesla Powerwall would be 1000000x safer than this just by the nature of new cells with newer chemistry, and millions of dollars in RnD

[@TheGuruStud]

@@HBPowerwall lol, Tesla rnd, that's a good one

[@theldraspneumonoultramicro405]

@@TheGuruStud Tesla rnd is stealing already existing tech and ideas and rebrand it, market it as some kind of new age tech that solves all the worlds problems and sell it and make billions. sound about right?

[@DJ29Joesph]

@@HBPowerwall tesla RND, lmao. Talk about clueless. To be fair, any build will probably be better and cheaper then a tesla wall. I built all of my energy walls out of donated modem and laptop batteries. But we also don't call inspectors, thats what idiots do that want to get their own shit shut down.

[@neilkurzman4907]

@@theldraspneumonoultramicro405 everybody uses existing technology to make things. Did Apple come up with any new technology with the iPod? Or the iPhone?

[@SuperAgentman007]

I got a question how is your battery cooled liquid? Or air?

[@HBPowerwall]

Air, but I built the battery. Built it properly - it will NEVER get hot even under 150 amps of charging current.

[@kiwiscanwifi]

:- ) Thanks for the update

[@HBPowerwall]

You bet!

[@FedericoLucchi]

2:40 "Extra layer of safety".... glad he mentioned safety, didn't see any so far 😂

[@HBPowerwall]

Would the 1000s of cell level fuses be considered safety?

[@cubanman2009]

I hope you have some kind of ventilation for those cells the last thing that you want to do is over heat them they can rupture

[@HBPowerwall]

Yes - naturally

[@w3w3w3]

@@HBPowerwall what do you use all these cells for?

[@AveRage_Joe]

OOOOOO Finally got your shipping container!!!!!!💥🤘

[@HBPowerwall]

Only been talking about it for how many years lol

[@Broxine]

What happens if one battery bursts into flames? Will it start a chain reaction and others will start to burn also? How could that be prevented?

[@HBPowerwall]

One would hope the CID activates , if that doesn't the cell fuse, if that fails the container will contain the fire till it burns itself out

[@mrtechie6810]

Smoke detectors, alarm, power disconnect, heat sensors and automatic extinguishers? Wouldn't you want to protect your investment? How do the pros handle this?🤔

[@josasp]

@@HBPowerwall kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2XUgmR_i5majbM

[@alanhillyard1639]

I’m here to tell you even the pros put their battery packs in a container and if you have a thermal runaway you close the container door and let it burn itself out. Not much will stop a lithium fire

[@Broxine]

Alan Hillyard where does the smoke go? Wont the container explode? Doesnt need a fire oxygen from the outside? If so, this container will be a big ass long lasting enviroment warmer without oxygen and fire burning.

[@redstarsrbija]

I would use stainless steel vs zinc plated fasteners to clamp together the terminal lugs. Also, toss in a conical washer on either side to accommodate for the expansion of the fasteners from heat. Add some Penetrox/Noalox/Oxguard, and you're golden!

[@HBPowerwall]

I did consider that but there is almost zero heat under any normal load - like the idea of Penetrox tho - thank-you

[@sulphur_fpv]

Great videos and content 👍👍, subbed ✌️. I thought about doing something similar when I had a 6kw solar system put in but according to energy Australia I am already using all of it through the day and have no extra to store lol

[@HBPowerwall]

Thanks for the sub! Also if you're in Australia and have the premium feed in tariff you'll loose it! But if your only getting 6-13c it's well worth it

[@mark_osborne]

Dumb question. It has been suggested, over and over, that I put a BMS on my Chevy Volt cells, meaning, each 4.0 V cell, in every pack. Why wouldn't it be equally appropriate to put a BMS on each and every one of your individual cells ? or am I missing something ?

[@HBPowerwall]

Your missing something - I only need one BMS per 191P battery

[@Marty_Destroyer_of_Worlds]

ok fair enough, i'll give you a sub for the hard work ;)

[@HBPowerwall]

I'll take that :)

[@kornface13]

Whats the temperature in your shed? I have been wanting to do solar on mine, but it gets pretty hot in there.

[@HBPowerwall]

Hotest i've seen for longer than an hour is about 50 but we have fan pumping around in there. I can work in there batteries should be fine

[@BeyondWrittenWords]

4:20 "With absolutely no help from my wife"

[@HBPowerwall]

NONE! lol

[@HighestRank]

You perspire, while she leaves and returns only to observe and annotate ‘transpiration’.

[@jasonbroom7147]

So much work, with Li-Ion cells. High density, but so much easier to get the needed AH's with LiFePO4, plus much lower risk of individual cell failures.

[@HBPowerwall]

After the last week of personal experience I couldn't agree more.

[@HexapoDD]

came for the batteries, stayed for the guy moving a shed the entire video.

[@HBPowerwall]

it wasn't in the script lol much rathered installing the bms

[@DustinRogersinMO]

“Rules are rules so let’s follow them to the book”….while wearing an anarchy shirt. 😆 I like your technique of driving a stake into the ground and using it as an anchor point for the winch.

[@HBPowerwall]

Video would have flopped with out all the comments about the shirt - but honestly it was an ebay purchase with out any thought to meaning lol - driving the stake into the ground was the wifes idea.. not sure why heheh

[@RaithUK]

Interesting to see what mayhem your upto mate, can't wait to see what it turns out like.. BTW what has changed in your laws.. just curious!

[@HBPowerwall]

Everything, lol renew.org.au/renew-magazine/solar-batteries/new-battery-installation-rules/

[@offgridwanabe]

@@HBPowerwall Ouch solar just got real expensive.

[@QsTechService1]

Lots of work moving that container ..Got to give you Credit not easy Will be awesome once done ✅ 👍

[@HBPowerwall]

Researching linings for it - DAM fire rated stuff is expensive

[@QsTechService1]

HBPowerwall I bet it’s expensive they make you pay one way or another if you’re not paying for electricity ☹️ ..Can’t wait to see the Build once you’re done ..It should be awesome 👏

[@HBPowerwall]

I'm wondering chicken or the egg... do I start lining the shed or wait for all the parts to lay them out and make sure there is support for them. As well as electrical layout

[@DIYSolarEnergy]

Now your talking about alot of work sir, Whoa! The rules are regulations are crazy...But honestly prolly needed..Good luck sir, keep the videos rolling...

[@HBPowerwall]

You got that right! But gota be done...

[@binkythecat457]

3:30 "Rules are rules" he says while wearing an anarchy shirt. Nah, I'm just kidding, he's a good man. A better man than I. This is very impressive.

[@HBPowerwall]

Didn't even know what it ment at the time.. cheap ebay shirt lol

[@rogeriodasilvaoliveira3939]

Parabéns pelo sistema, muito bom um dos melhores que já vi.

[@bostonreynolds7363]

I'm confused. Did you continue with this project? I cant see any more videos on this shipping container in your channel?

[@HBPowerwall]

Container is now full of mini parts :P but the build is competed and at it new home running some critical gear offgrid

[@DIYwithBatteries]

Just now i got some laptop batteries I got some Samsung's LG's US18650GR i don't know what are these and i also got irritating SANYO's we don't trust these. So that's all in my case! 😊

[@HBPowerwall]

Good old Sanyos lol

[@DIYwithBatteries]

@@HBPowerwall Yeah These are heaters lol And i got 9 of them oh man 🤦‍♂️. 🤷‍♂️

[@aku7598]

Are the battery terminals soldered?

[@HBPowerwall]

They are crimped

[@fgxw8]

Moving that thing was hard! How difficult is it to get a new wife in Australia?

[@HBPowerwall]

Going to say that would be a rewarding task lol even if it took way longer replacing would be easier than fixing HAAHAHA

[@HighestRank]

Tell her it’s a bomb shelter and the russkies will be at the gates in about a week. If that don’t fix nothing then yes, green light’s on for replacement.

[@kennedy6971]

I built my own electric bike battery. One day on my way ro work I heard a guy yell " You have a flat tire". . I remember thinking "im hauling ass, i would know if i had a flat". Right about then i felt heat and watched flames come shooting out of my battery. The man wasnt yelling at me about a flat tire.. He was yelling "Your bikes on fire" ! And he was right! It was on fire. 6yrs of ebike battery building and my first battery failure.. Id rather get my heart rate up riding.. The fire got it up higher i think.. Be safe building these. Match your cells. Use bms system. Wire system with redundancy.. That allows u to catch it before u have a fire👍

[@HBPowerwall]

Batrium BMS on all my batteries, super low draw and charge rates and never run hot. Caution is still a requirement

[@txukoo]

Could you bury the container underground?

[@HBPowerwall]

i guess so bad dam that'd be one hell of a job

[@mrtechie6810]

It would rust out!🤔

[@alpurl]

I'm an American. You mentioned burying cable 600 deep. My first thought was cm. Then I realized that would be 6m which is nearly 20 feet deep. Certainly a safe depth, but unrealistic without heavy equipment. 600 mm, 60 cm, translates to 2 feet, a much more realistic, reasonable, and standard depth, even in the US.

[@HBPowerwall]

Yep Aussie so 600 mm 😀

[@alpurl]

@@HBPowerwall glad I deduced correctly. Thank you for the clarification.

[@HBPowerwall]

Almost any time

[@I_am_Allan]

The voice volume is mighty low, and the sound effects WAY too loud. HOWEVER, I find it fascinating what you've done so far.

[@HBPowerwall]

Yeh, had a few small complaints about the audio - didn't have another few hours to go through it all over again to fix. The auto level is a horrible tool on PowerDirector

[@SidneyCritic]

Yeah I'm the same, and it's actually painful because of my tinnitus. I have to turn up the voice to hear it, but then the music blows my ears out. Ears are supposed to naturally adjust for volumes, but mine are set to 11 permanently.

[@ChristophPech]

Also the generic KZbin royalty free music is not only terrible it's also in millions of KZbin videos and therefore annoying and it does not add any value to your otherwise great videos.

[@alakani]

@@SidneyCritic Tinnitus by itself shouldn't be painful. Could be clogged earwax, or a brain tumor. Or anxiety disorder (don't worry it's definitely maybe not a tumor)

[@HBPowerwall]

It’s probably a tumour 😆

[@darrenbenson2606]

Glad to see you got your shipping container 👍.

[@HBPowerwall]

Me too! took a while but my hand was pushed ... at least SHE helped lol

[@jackkreacherr9339]

Any electrician who looks at this would facepalm.

[@HBPowerwall]

Why?

[@HBPowerwall]

Fuck me i'm ment to do all that before it's installed?

[@HBPowerwall]

dam I got two feet, that'll add 60 bucks to the project costs... might as well give up now and bin the whole lot..

[@kmuralikrishna1582]

Hey ..I still don't understand how the battery pack is sitting in that rack, since that battery pack is too weight that should of fall down from rack. Second question is ...(cell level fusing) Who can help to send to indian cell level fusing nikel strips plates(Tesla model) Because of its not too much weight so, probably I can get on low shipping charges.. Please comment

[@HBPowerwall]

More info on the mounts - secondlifestorage.com/index.php?threads/hbpowerwall-official.176/post-885

[@offgridwanabe]

Hey now you have more roof space for the new array lol. and the supervisor is always right.

[@HBPowerwall]

You got that right!

[@earthenergyhex]

this is really cool, great work

[@smert_rashistskiy_pederacii]

Looks good. But why 18650 and how do U replace em when they fail? I was going to make one (much much smaller) on 18650 but any calculations says that LiFePO4 is easier to build and cheaper to buy. They also bigger and easier to replace. PS @ recovered from old laptops@ OK so you got them probably cheap. But it is still time consuming process of testing them, right?

[@HBPowerwall]

The build video your way would let’s face it prey average lol 😂

[@herzogsbuick]

3:40 "Rules are rules, right, so let's follow 'em to the book" ...you know what that symbol on your shirt means, right? I shed a single tear when you said that

[@HBPowerwall]

Just one - you're a heartless human!

[@JBFromOZ]

Is there project footage of the mini mate?

[@HBPowerwall]

There is as it turns out - kzbin.info/aero/PLVtgHS9JIte9BN8E4bbpwH2DCE-EbUHRW

[@JBFromOZ]

@@HBPowerwall that is very cool! I have my own EV project, E-Minor, inspired by Bad Obsession Motorsports, and have a lifelong passion working on old British cars like my Austin Healey sprite. The joy of putting all the new (or freshly refurbished) bits back into shape, is awesome!

[@HBPowerwall]

I had a weekend off and binge watched BINKI from start to finish in one day... inspiring stuff they do

[@JBFromOZ]

@@HBPowerwall thats a pretty good effort! I had 2 weeks to try to get ready for a special event, and this is all I got done.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/raHIpoyfm6dkopo

[@dillonmccormick2511]

How hot do your sheds get? Do you use any temp control? Thanks in advance.

[@HBPowerwall]

Where the batteries are now they are just cooled by exhaust fans top and bottom 3" computer fans - controlled by the BMS

[@dillonmccormick2511]

HBPowerwall ok cool! Been thinking about building a small “battery box/shed” to keep my power bank outside but have been wondering about climate control. I thought about temp controlled fans but wasn’t sure it’d be enough. Thanks!

[@HBPowerwall]

In the shipping container it will be the better part of fully sealed so will probably install a cheap reverse cycle air conditioner in there and just set it to 25deg in summer and leave it at that..

[@dillonmccormick2511]

HBPowerwall ok I’ll look in to that cause during the summer here (Midwest US) it can get pretty brutal but never last for that long so I may be able to get away with just the fans, but if I can get a cheap AC I would def go that route for peace of mind.

[@TheNameIsForty]

Smart man, and an enjoyable video. Good explanation of what you are doing and what stage you are at so that there we're no misunderstandings.

[@HBPowerwall]

In progresss

[@blackhawk7r221]

Question: On conventional dry cell batteries, jumper strips are spot-welded to the caps and base to prevent soldering heat from damaging the batteries. Does this not apply to lithium cells? I see clumps of solder. How do you prevent both battery damage from heat, yet prevent a bad cold solder joint? Truly curious, not bustin’ your chops.

[@HBPowerwall]

The heat I inject would be causing extra damage no doubt - how much I have no idea and given when they were in the laptop there is a very good chance the got much hotter for much longer. At the end of the day its a byproduct of recycling.

[@andrewwhite1793]

Why no fuses? In a separate building is an excellent idea to avoid burning the house down if it goes wrong. How do you stop the Australian sunshine melting the batteries? If the brackets engaged on the plastic spacers the weight would be spread out nicely.

[@HBPowerwall]

over 5000 fuses, next three videos (hint shipping container) Aussie heat, yeh - that's a thing I guess - Brackets hold up well (so far) and look NEAT!

[@noelstgelven1994]

I have a stupid question. What is the purpose of those cells walls? Do you use this energy? What for? Can you use that power for the entire home? I am very interested because of the technic level needed to make those walls. Excuse my poor english...

[@HBPowerwall]

I've used this type of storage solution for the past 4 years 24/7

[@MarkJohnson-me3xr]

Came for the batteries stayed for the dog.

[@HBPowerwall]

Had to edit out that dog taking a dump on camera right where i was working... lol

[@cougarmain]

Aussies are the best cool work mate keep the good vids rolling.

[@HBPowerwall]

Yes they are 👍I can't disagree lol and will try, quite time poor these days with family/work balance

[@pascalhemerik1007]

Ur a hero moving that container on your own👊

[@HBPowerwall]

to be fair wasn't that hard, just time and pain killers for the back pain lol

[@MrPoojanModi]

How much storage in kWh those 4 year old batteries have now? Is it still 30 kWh?

[@HBPowerwall]

about 25 still...

[@angusbrown849]

love seeing people doing what they love

[@HBPowerwall]

It's a fun and rewarding hobby..

[@angusbrown849]

@@HBPowerwall I'm in my third year studying Electrical Engineering, and this kind of stuff is really inspiring :)

[@Diy.Production.Solaire]

Hello, thanks for the second video, ok I have understand why you had chosen cells HS in blue, ok the big container for the enormous battery ! More space for your project ! Good job man !

[@HBPowerwall]

Thanks for watching!

[@MakatiSuites]

Love your Aussie understatement, "it was a little bit of a challenge", looked like a nightmare to me, anyway thanks so much for this, so helpful!

[@HBPowerwall]

it was hell, but this is youtube, gota make it look easy hehe

[@3lat3guitarh3ro]

Using the steel post in the ground for the block anchor was ingenious, I would have pulled the fence down.

[@HBPowerwall]

I did consider the fence as an option lol

[@MrConspark]

OMG! That is awesome! Well done

[@HBPowerwall]

Thank you so much 😀

[@Dultron_the_Destroyer]

"rules are rules. lets follow them to the book," as he's wearing an anarchy shirt. I love it.

[@HBPowerwall]

I don't think this video would have go half the comments it has with out it lol

[@afterburner3999]

Love to see How it Explodes with that many.

[@HBPowerwall]

Wouldn't it vent not explode?

[@asdf1x103]

Sorry, I don’t understand English. But to what I saw, I had questions. Have you considered those a couple of nuances for battery assemblies? 1) The current goes along the smallest resistance path. No matter how ideal the batteries would be, their internal resistance is different. And because of this, when charging an assembly of thousands of batteries, more than half of the batteries will not charge up to half the charge, while some batteries will already be in a recharged state (the battery charge is above normal ) And during operation, slowly but surely, one by one, the batteries will fail, along the path of least resistance. 2) The charge of the battery and the release of energy by the battery occur due to the chemical process occurring inside the battery. During this chemical process, heat is generated. Batteries located in the center of this battery assembly will overheat, from overheating they will leak, burst and cause a short circuit. So, the first question - how will you control the charge level of each battery from thousands of batteries, so as not to allow the battery to charge above normal? The second question is how will you cool the batteries, especially those in the center?

[@HBPowerwall]

Total max charge/draw is 0.33 amps per cell... issues disappear

[@asdf1x103]

@@HBPowerwall By "per cell ..." you mean each battery separately, or battery assembly 0:05. If you mean the battery assembly, then I agree - with such currents it is not afraid of overcharging and overheating, only I'm afraid to imagine how much it will charge. But if you mean each battery separately, then you will not control it. Because of this, modern laptops get rid of such batteries, since they charge differently because of different resistance and varying degrees of wear.

[@hiasi2323]

interessting project. but i do have a questions: how do those old laptop batteries compare to new ones in terms of "health" / lifespan / capacity?

[@HBPowerwall]

All great questions - Health - HEAVILY tested - LIFESPAN current rig is at 4 years old still going - CAPACITY lost about 10% in that 4 years -- kzbin.info/aero/PLVtgHS9JIte_tT8JVGvoK3OBy7sYm3Xwj

[@SomeDudeInBaltimore]

@@HBPowerwall My 18650 vape cells don't even last 3 months. But I assume that's because they're heavily abused in that environment and have to deal with sudden, heavy current draw all the time. I assume the cells in your setup have a somewhat easier life.

[@HBPowerwall]

Yep vaping kills even great cells fast!

[@kiwiscanwifi]

If container is on blocks, it makes a great place to store conduit, pv rails, scaffording etc.

[@HBPowerwall]

Good place for the snakes to hide too... Conversation with wifee is that we should concrete it all before anything else happens

[@rw-xf4cb]

@@HBPowerwall Also should put a roof over it as old containers tend to leak overtime plus the gap between the container and the roof you can store your railing then only have to deal with tree snakes.

[@notathome13]

Add roof over top will aid with cooling - double skin effect

[@HBPowerwall]

SOLAR ROOF!!!

[@HBPowerwall]

i got the solar mounts lol

[@lolisaiahlol]

How much can this power? If let’s say the power goes out and you need to use the batteries to power the refrigerator and the lights around the house. How long can the set up last?

[@HBPowerwall]

25kwh so 1kw for 25 hours 500watts for 50 hours 100watts for a bloody long time..

[@BetterBiomedChannel]

I admire your commitment to this project.

[@HBPowerwall]

Thank-You..

[@e.garshad4307]

you may done that container transferring in place more easy way by use your car and chain to pull it in place through your wooden wall by removing one pile of wood as i can sea there is road behind your yard or even push it by use of some spacer between your car bumper and container with help of that roller rail.but i don't know is there any access for this around and back of those woods but its looks that was possible

[@HBPowerwall]

My car I isn’t going to be doing that lol not a chance in hell it Kyle happen.

[@e.garshad4307]

@@HBPowerwall sure

[@jgarmer]

How long would pack of old laptop batteries last as far as years of use before they would need replaced? I thought that these ion cell last about ten years or so. Do you match up the internal resistance ?

[@HBPowerwall]

IR IS with in 20 or so, my current battery is 4 years of full time use and still going strong (with maintance)

[@ProDigit80]

Best is to take the plastic casings off, and dump them in a liquid for cooling purposes. So many batteries in a pack can heat up quickly, and what will you do if a set will expand, or if one start catching fire?

[@HBPowerwall]

If you have batteries that are heating up it's time you built a stronger safer battery. This battery was built for a environment, location & load...

[@ProDigit80]

@@HBPowerwallmore cells, is more risk

[@HBPowerwall]

More cars, toasters, lighter fluid, mowers, wives - More risk?

[@Broxine]

What did the container cost?

[@HBPowerwall]

$2750 delivered

[@pierreqiu8147]

Love those batteries, i wish i got that many battery. But I only got 16 recycle old laptop battery, so I build a 4s 4p battery pack for my laptop, I got a 4s BMS build in and I want to supply CC and CV to charge the battery, I only supply 16.4v and ??? of amp. Please help

[@mareck6946]

0.5-1c should be safe depending on the cells.

[@swolath]

I like your new battery box. One thing I would like to see is one box just for battery's and electronics somewhere else. So if there was any accident you would only loose second hand batteries Not everything. Even separated your batteries in half. Starting to get scared of dendrites. Being the cause of a fire on old batteries.

[@HBPowerwall]

I agree but the budget is completely wiped out for at least a good few months

[@swolath]

I’m still very jealous of you and your amazing system

[@HBPowerwall]

Thank-you

[@gordonw9208]

Wife said, "It goes up against the fence." Husband looks like he is dying inside.

[@garywheeler7039]

Depending on the sheetrock thickness, 25mm length screws is not much. Typically whenever used for structural purposes, screws should go into lumber 3/4" and garage drysall (gypsum board) is typically 5/8" thick so 38 or 40 mm is a better length assuming you are hitting wood studs. Hopefully the holes in the bracket line up standard stud spacing in your area. Here it is about 16" on center or 40.5 cm. USA

[@HBPowerwall]

It has worked well as it is..edit - I really need to rewatch some of these to see what I've said :P

[@garywheeler7039]

@@HBPowerwall : sorry, you mounted it on a steel wall in a overseas container, not a garage wall. I was jumping to conclusions, sorry.

[@HBPowerwall]

All good buddy

[@garywheeler7039]

@@HBPowerwall : Great use of the sun's rays. You are a true inspiration. I wish I and others could be more like you, seriously.

[@mysterytechknowledge3664]

I know that this is quite late, and I hate to break it to you, but it may help someone else. instead of using "skates", you can use cheap laundry liquid directly on the wood. There may be some scraping/damage to the wood, but when it starts to move you will get a "surge" of movement that if you can keep up with it you can keep going for a bit. This method is effective on a lot of smoother surfaces, such as boards or debarked logs. The bigger the object is, the more runners and soap you'll need. Cheers!

[@HBPowerwall]

Thanks for the tip... border line useless for me but will help others for sure.

[@MaximGhost]

3:29 Says "rules are rules ... let's follow them to the book" while wearing a T-shirt with an anarchy logo. Like a boss.

[@HBPowerwall]

BOOM, thats how I do ebay tees