Pundits Meltdown After Just ONE Match! | Paddock Podcast

[@FullTimeDevils]

LIKE this comment if it's too soon to judge Amorim yet! 😬

[@Stegibbon]

Lads if you want some ideas for good starting words for wordle. I've only got one and I've already said it.

[@davidwarnes7274]

Theres no way in hell luke shaw is a first team player he has to dit on the bench for long term if amorim plays him every game hes hoing to get injured, once the next international break is over shaws out long term.he wont stay fit for utd he will yes for england just drop him.get a replacement sell him on January.

[@christosjoseph7409]

Of course it’s too soon but that was very bad

[@reduk1999]

Obviously

[@realrecoginizereal8715]

Not for Joe it isn't.😂😂😂

[@eoghan1233]

Has Rashford lost a couple of yards of pace? I’ve noticed a good bit recently that he can’t accelerate away from defenders

[@sgoredraw1455]

Has Rashford lost a couple of yards of pace ? I’ve noticed a good bit recently that he can’t be bothered to accelerate away from defenders ( I fixed your comment for you )

[@eoghan1233]

@ 🤣 I get your point but in the past, even when he wasn’t tracking back or pressing, he would still be able to absolute burst away from a defender in a straight run. He doesn’t even do that now

[@dairefinnie1533]

That would be his gargantuan ego

[@mimikatz]

Yep, definitely not as rapid. Injuries are an issue, especially his back (I’ve had the same issue)

[@AnneB79]

@@sgoredraw1455no he’s just a lazy twat and shite!

[@meelismagi2043]

Hate to say it, but it's been going on for nearly 2 years now. Playing with Rashford, is like playing with 10 men. I don't know what or who (in his personal life) it is, but he has been ruined and not up for it anymore.

[@ashlittle4545]

Second point. Absolutely loved the managers substitutions. First 2 on after 58 minutes just screamed “we are winning this game”. Didn’t work out but he showed the aggression from the sideline we need!

[@judeyy2x]

Kept thinking this too. Don’t mean to shade ETH but his subs were one of his biggest issues for me. Can’t remember if he’s ever put on 2 strikers to go all out to win a game before (at least not as early as Amorim did). Big plus point for me.

[@steverito]

⁠@@judeyy2xten Hag rarely if ever had the luxury to sub on two strikers let alone players that would be ideal for the situation due to injuries and shit recruitment.

[@galazore]

​@@judeyy2xCorrect. Ten Hag's subs and in game management were bafflingly bad.

[@d.w.evans1182]

Just watched Jamie Carrager give a good analysis on MNF showing how the players weren’t doing the right things in the system early on, focusing on Casimeiro and Johnny Evans mainly but showing how they actually got the hang of it later on and did the right things, showing that the system has the potential to work. It just needs time for the players to get used to the system. The negative reaction to just the first game is a bit silly really.

[@alanclarke2510]

A Scouser doubting us ........shock horror , if we'd have won 5-0 he'd have said calm down it's only 1 game , although to be fair Murphy does know what it takes to not win the Premier League, he's got a lot of years experience at that. To be honest if we win,draw or lose we get talked about the most , Liverpool 8pts clear , Spurs beat City away 4-0 and they are still talking about us , sez it all , wait and Amorim will get us back up there , it's a certainty.

[@Jporter196]

they talked about almost every top 6 club on the show 🤣

[@Jporter196]

they’ve definitely discussed city and their situation Liverpool and arsenal more than your club recently

[@WayneJones-fy1cd]

How come all these pundits are not managers 😂

[@KingJaffeJoffer99]

You lot have been concentrating so much on city flopping, you've missed the fact Liverpool are strolling to their 20th. United getting relegated is the only thing worse than Liverpool winning their 20th. Ive been saying it for weeks

[@RogerSmith1984]

Like ok?

[@admontblanc]

Because the whole club is in the shitter and some of you are more worried about whether L'pool wins the title or not.

[@TPH250290]

There's literally nothing we can do to stop Liverpool winning the title, apart from taking 3 points off them at the reverse fixture in January. What on earth is the point in thinking about it?

[@ashlittle4545]

Shaw and Mount back is a real bonus. Both amazing talent when fit.

[@sgoredraw1455]

* until two games later ……….

[@ashlittle4545]

@ 🤣

[@BrettRiverBoat1]

I honestly don't want Shaw back at the club, after the euros debacle h should have been transfer listed

[@jordonsmith1371]

This is one of them comments that will age like milk left out in sun 😂

[@pierrebyname]

Honestly why are so many fans pro Mount, what have you seen from him? Every time he's on the pitch i forget he's playing

[@Ancestrally-Guided]

Yeah, including Ste. Saying 'same old players, same old problems' Brev, he's had two training sessions 😂

[@kallekofot7240]

Ive been saying this for months, Ste has completely lost the plot. He is Gary Neville-level winging, and his so called analysis is really subpar. He should try actually watch some football..

[@NatashaBurton]

I think Maz will play left wing back and I’d love to see Mount and Amad as the no 10s

[@NatashaBurton]

My uncle owned a pub under the arches in Deansgate .. back in the 2000s. Good times 😊

[@bobvickers9387]

You deserve stick jay you constantly defend Rashford irrespective of how he plays

[@alexmaggs3461]

Andre Onana in current form is one of the best, if not the best, keeper in the world

[@simonjames9186]

Hot take, although Bruno and Garnacho are 2 of my favourite players I'm not sure if either suit what Amorin is trying to do. Wouldn't be suprised if they are both sold within the next 18 months to fund a rebuild. Especially as we should still be able to get decent money for them.

[@davidwarnes7274]

Rashford, shaw, garnacho, anthony,sancho, casimero, if no improvement, mcguire, lindelof, eriksonn going anyway.

[@simonsparks7540]

I think with regards with media work Amorim is doing I’m in agreement with him. This is where the likes of Dan ashworth and Jason Wilcox needs to step up and take some of that burden off him and any head coach.

[@MrSoccerninja08]

I don’t want rashford to just get goals, or garna to just get goal to show they are good for the system.. I want to see full progression in many aspects of their play that help the team play better. Which goes back to the team ethos that Amorim is trying to build.. I’m tired of players only doing the singular job which gives them the pass to stay in the team. Look I understand that scoring goals is the most difficult thing to do in the game.. but if you don’t provide another tangible benefit to the team, then you simply have no place here. It’s a team and to be a team we have to be good at everything together!

[@MrSoccerninja08]

And another thing for me is that you cannot have your highest earner (rashford) coming off at 60 minutes every game! That is ludicrous! Like earn the right to play the full game or leave the club. Cause 300-350k for 60-120minutes per week is awful!

[@jeffsw1-3466]

He has spent more time talking to the press than his players, the press are questioning him about things he wants to do, he should say "You should ask the head coach, I seem to be the Head of PR"

[@Parky_1712]

Jay's rant about Southampton might be one of the best things in the channel's history

[@reduk1999]

Rashford should be taking these games by the scruff of the neck regardless of being one of the premier league’s top earners, he’s had his chance since getting his new mega contract, get him gone already

[@Gazzeroo]

I just hope this manager is honest with himself & his squad. By that i mean, "salaries mean nothing!" .. You want to play, you put in a shift in training and show the manager how much you care in matches. They are all more than capable players, the pace and commitment is what's missing. Throw in some fresh pacey legs from the reserves/18s, and just tell them to run to show their elders what is expected.

[@gouravghosh588]

Utd board needs to do everything within their power to protect Amorim from the media, player power, and fans as well. I saw some fans already getting on his back, just like the media.

[@jgm292]

Someone should make a compilation of Jay saying this is the season Rashford needs to prove himself 😂

[@nickmail7604]

If yesterday was "a new manager bounce performance" then we are fucked. Jay alluded to signing a new forward, why? That would just be another forward to be starved of crosses and meaningful balls.

[@grahamwilde8605]

Dara O'Shea is statistically one of the fastest players in the Premier League.

[@CoolStu24]

I find it funny that the youth that play in the first team play better than the actual first team because they are hungrier. Mainoo, Amad, Collyer to an extent, Garnacho ( with a bit more growing up to do, especially in decision making )Amass, all playing with heart, soul and balls.

[@Tom-dj6vv]

Jay killed me with his... "fuckin'ell knowledge!"

[@steverito]

This group of players can give about 20 minutes of concentrated effort. They are so off the pace physically and mentally, it will take Amorim at least 18 months of on pitch work and recruitment to get things going.

[@steerj07]

All of Brentford's midfielders followed by the Jamie Redknapp 'what's wrong with him' 😂 - Ronaldo on it this ep.

[@VolTheProducer]

One for the list of players that are basically the same: Papiss Cisse & Dembe Ba

[@dodgysmum8340]

Amad is wicked. Bright spark of the season. Such a teeny tiny man, yet a little bruiser. 🔥

[@Cold_Logic]

Garnacho has played so many minutes at his age...yet he still has ZERO understanding of the game. Sell him now while we can still profit big of his 'potential'. There's a real chance he never progresses much beyond his current level (& all the vaping isn't gonna help as he ages)

[@detroutspinners9933]

And if he becomes a world beater?

[@Cold_Logic]

@ "If". Again it's that "if" that allows Utd to sell for the biggest fee NOW. Rashford is only worth a fraction of his value from 4 years ago because we paid 300k a week to find out he's not that guy. Replace Garnacho with a more intelligent player or treat him as his ability dictates: 2 seasons on loan or an impact sub. Very few players are Lamine Yamal yet we expect Yamal quality from all our U21 first-teamers.

[@gouravghosh588]

Sell him and put in a buy-back clause.​ But I would honestly keep Garnacho for the time being and sell Rashford.@detroutspinners9933

[@Gazzeroo]

If Garnacho put on just a little more timber, I reckon it would help him. Gets knocked off far too easily. I think he's got ability, also needs to do the right thing for the team, not just for him.

[@Cold_Logic]

@ It's his *understanding* of the game, not his weight 😂

[@gouravghosh588]

In the modern game, the system and principles of play is more important than the formation. These so-called "Pundits" need to get their minds out of the 80s/90s era. City played 3 at the back during their centurion season.

[@MarkAnthonyHawkesSITH]

I understand Ronnie saying “players have to sink or swim” but 1 of the things I think can drown a manager is the pressure at United when they can’t shift players as and when they want to for example and maybe end up being forced to use players they don’t want to who, perhaps aren’t good enough, but you still need to get results etc. The players are definitely the issue though, even the ones that are good enough simply lack work ethic or, the team as a whole does. You could clearly see that the Ipswich lads wanted it far more, putting their bodies on the line, straining to chase everything down and running their socks off! Thats a real issue and one of the worst things we need to weed outta them! That’s a big worry to me that was never a problem in the past.

[@judeyy2x]

Agree completely with your point but pre INEOS. The board structure was fully set in place this summer and they’ve shown no problem in getting rid of players that have been a problem at the club talent wise, the likes of McTominay, AWB etc, despite a large number of fans bemusingly fighting for them to stay. They’ve also shown the door to players like Martial and VDB who never even got on the pitch but no doubt would still be collecting a paycheque under the old regime. Not to mention, managing to get decent fees for younger players and also putting in smart buy back clauses, type of thing that was so normal and yet so unheard of at United, I would start to even question if it was actually a thing. INEOS have clearly shown that Amorim is their guy, shown by bringing him in mid season and paying the release clause for him, I sincerely doubt they won’t back him. IMO, they absolutely have to for the sole fact that it’ll make them look incredibly weak if they don’t, so even just for appearances sake. Don’t think we’ll have an issue with wanting to and being okay with letting even big name players go, likes of Rashford, etc. Think the problem creeps in with A) Finding them a club and B) Commanding a decent fee for them. That’s where they’ll have their work cut out and will have to prove their worth (in a bigger way than this past summer) come the end of the season.

[@RogerSmith1984]

We don’t have any players that could spur that on and excite players. We don’t have any good captains. Rashford called McGuire a t*at or something for a wrong ball, imagine his cringe reaction when McGuire is trying to rally them up lol

[@Funkin_Prink]

Jamie Redknapp is just bitter because his biggest claim to fame is the shanked cross that set up Rene Higuita’s scorpion kick.

[@davidwarnes7274]

Rashford doesn't track back hes not a winger whos good enough to get a spot,he isn't a striker, has to be sold amorim needs money sell him,shaw always injured sell,anthony he gets another chance as does garnacho of they dont improve sell theres the cash.

[@garygreeley1244]

Most of these reactions don’t even warrant discussion. Feels like it’s just a massive void that needs filling with United and the media, when in truth - it was a pretty rudimentary first outing for the team getting to grips with a new system. Personally, I will be reserving judgment for a very long time as I feel, as things progress there will ultimately be some decisions made on big names and lot of uprooting to occur. Always felt there would be a complete revision required to make any sort of headway, just now we have a manager with a singular vision which, for me, is the right outlook to have. Hopefully things click soon and we can be excited by performances soon, but my expectations are well and truly in check for the time being. It is going to take time and I’m willing to be patient provided we’re still facing the right direction. Looking forward to the next few games now to see how things take shape.

[@cheekydan4592]

Garnacho killed our game yesterday

[@RogerSmith1984]

Imagine giving players 300k still. If rash lost his pace and continues with this form, we won’t be able to cash in on him and he will only hold us back

[@excellentpenguin2535]

Joe loves to ask if we have to worry about Amorim. Hes said it on a few now.

[@BlackPhillipShow_]

Amad has to play as a 10. It doesn’t matter if he’s better than other players at RWB. He’s the only forward player who can make things happen.

[@mikemorrow2184]

Whether the system is 3-4-3 or 4-3-3 or whatever. I wouldn't be happy with a midfield two of Eriksen and Case. I think this showed when Ugarte came on. These pundits are shite !!!

[@Patrick-li7yl]

Mainoo and Ugarte is our best midfield but unfortunately Mainoo got injured

[@bengreenbank]

Mainoo and Ugarte isn’t a top midfield either.

[@AnneB79]

@@bengreenbankI think it should be ugarte and Bruno and mainoo sub

[@mikemorrow2184]

@@bengreenbank just out of interest. Genuine question. Have they played together ?

[@pierrebyname]

​@@mikemorrow2184I don't believe they have, hate to say it I think Bruno/Ugarte has the most potential in this system, with Bruno as a box to box and Maino in the 10. This solves a few problems, Bruno has a better engine and we can capitalise on his creativity in the attacking phase. Mainoo is press resistant and can operate in the tight spaces. Pressing my be a bit of an issue but he's no worse than Zirkzee in this respect

[@joetownsend8305]

Ronaldo speaking so much sense again.

[@samdowden2026]

I think it’s do or die with Garnacho unfortunately. Either adapt to a new role of he’ll be sold. Our success levels by that time will define how we feel about it.

[@esp2017]

Kebana > This and That.

[@RogerSmith1984]

If garna wants that Real move, he better buckle up

[@grahamshaw3802]

10 years is not one match

[@anneferguson7514]

I'm sure Erikson could have passed / crossed the ball to Rashy twice and he could've scored.

[@drew_peabawlz]

Rashford is done, he played loads injured when young and has last a yard of pace. I'd look to sell if you can and make some money

[@maldickerson]

Pundits slating united but they won’t mention Citehs run of losses.

[@arthurquinn9897]

Was a boring game but he hasnt had enough sessions with everyone fully fit

[@anthonylewis-dowell]

There’s an expectation from the Top (Sir Jim) to find that new young player thats going to be the next Ronaldo etc. Then they are overplayed to try and force the talent through in a hope they can fill the boots of more expensive experienced players the club does not want to to buy.

[@clough16]

Most expensive assembled team ever that is totally average 😅

[@ryancurry2911]

I still think ten hag is a better tactician than Amorim.

[@qfnoyvoy6353]

Should’ve showed it more in the last 18 months

[@hooksx]

He did, you just missed it because you get your opinions from YT pundits and comment sections. ​@@qfnoyvoy6353

[@hooksx]

Totally agree. I'm not sure if they'll ever learn or admit it, but Utd fans made a huge mistake sending off EtH with £17m of their money. He'll be back in about 24 months with his new club and beat RA again... like he's already done twice!

[@gouravghosh588]

Yeah, right! He was so great that Spurs rejected him. Bayern rejected him even though he had been their B team coach. No big club went anywhere near, offering him a job.

[@dealwithitsloth]

Ronny is such a snide to Jo

[@craigwilson6393]

Rashford is done for. Everyone can see it. He is not happy either with his football or his personal life or both. He needs to leave united to save his career. I think amorim will bin him off asap if he can. If the powers that be will let him that is. Marcus isnt gonna respond to this challenge, he just isnt. And the sooner he leaves the better. For him. But for me as a liverpool fan i hope he stays and continues to be a liability…

[@davefairfull359]

Elon got loads of weed farms too

[@dodgysmum8340]

Some of the players don’t care. U dont feck off to the states for a holiday when u aren’t good enuff to get into ur national squad or - often - the United team. U keep ur head down and work on if u care.

[@AdjatoK941]

Just give him a break. One match. You do that you’ll keep losing managers. These United pundit are like poison chalice. Shut up all of you

[@thezltsniper837]

Can u not say the thing we fear for garnacho is what happened to rashford to many games to young.

[@kilkongarlla]

Ronaldo is arguably the 3rd best player of all time

[@dodgysmum8340]

Being back Eddi cavani.

[@eslugz9482]

yoro turned down madrid???not like madrid didnt want to pay the stupid money?

[@dannyh1298]

We got to think this is ineos plan now it’s going to change players change or they go simple as that Some of them players have let us down for years If they don’t play well or adapt gt rid of them We have had world class players leave and the club was successful if we carry on with some of these passengers we will never improve

[@clough16]

Cheshire joe delusional 😂

[@everydaysame4880]

Moon underwater..joe is such a square..dont listen to him

[@DavyMagowan]

Whos missing a lot of players almost the whole squad was fit yesterday you clowns lol

[@bobvickers9387]

Ronaldo correct re rash sell him for his own good and clubs

[@bobvickers9387]

Jo correct re garnacho

[@grahamshaw3802]

Not a Arsenal fan but there miles ahead of this toxic club. Arteta is doing a job we would only dream of

[@MichaelClayton-dh1jq]

Am glad we didn't loose obviously but now ineos have to back amorim in getting at least 6 new players in and players out to because if we went on a run of wins these blaghards of players would be staying on longer at utd we need 2 new defensive players and two new midfielders and two new strikers right through the spine on the team to get amorims system really working properly

[@hooksx]

This is the awful cycle that's been happening for a decade at Utd. To a "T."

[@gouravghosh588]

You forgot to mention a new LWB.

[@realrecoginizereal8715]

Danny Murphy's comments are reminiscent of another mediocre ex Liverpool player turned pundit. He will be eating his words the clown. I can't wait!🥳😂😂