Punic-Sicilian Wars - Hannibal's Revenge (410 BC) DOCUMENTARY

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@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 2 жыл бұрын
What wars of antiquity should be cover next? Part 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2atiJSNeptrg7c
@Reformedhillbilly369
@Reformedhillbilly369 2 жыл бұрын
The Mauryan conquest of India or Persian wars against the Scythians would be pretty cool. I would also love to see a video on the society and military of the Philistines. They are often written off as “those guys the Israelites fought” and not much more.
@joniscraft
@joniscraft 2 жыл бұрын
The Pyrrhic war or an updated version on the Punic wars perhaps, although the originals are well-detailed.
@darnellgrape-drinker4916
@darnellgrape-drinker4916 2 жыл бұрын
March of the 10,000.
@eddiepolo6047
@eddiepolo6047 2 жыл бұрын
Battle of the Hydaspes (326 BC).
@secario2135
@secario2135 2 жыл бұрын
persian Egyptian war
@abdallahmontassar6717
@abdallahmontassar6717 2 жыл бұрын
you should mention the difference between Hannibal Mago and Hannibal Barca the legendary one , most people will get confused.
@Quinefan
@Quinefan 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, thanks for this.
@samidib10
@samidib10 2 жыл бұрын
Fax I was pretty confused until I did a simple google search
@mszalans4817
@mszalans4817 2 жыл бұрын
Yeeeah I was like "Hannibal died in Siccily? Wait..."
@daviioyamat1723
@daviioyamat1723 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying this, that this hannibal is a mago not a barca
@stevee8678
@stevee8678 2 жыл бұрын
Barca died in Persia I believe
@McPeror
@McPeror 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Impressive. Let's see Paul Allen's revenge.
@DiaperGranny11
@DiaperGranny11 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@davidcervantes9336
@davidcervantes9336 2 жыл бұрын
LOL
@turtleguy2121
@turtleguy2121 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@TetsuShima
@TetsuShima 2 жыл бұрын
*Meanwhile, in Rome* Senator 1#: "Did you hear about that Carthaginian general who is now terrorizing the Greeks?" Senator 2#: "You mean Hannibal, right?" Senator 1#: "That man really does justice to that scary name of his, don't you think?" Senator 2#: "Yeah. Glad we're not the ones having to fight someone with that name!" *both men laugh*
@ajmiyessine3837
@ajmiyessine3837 2 жыл бұрын
To be continued......
@somestormcloakwithanarrowo4671
@somestormcloakwithanarrowo4671 2 жыл бұрын
Scipio: "Heh, I'll do it"
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 2 жыл бұрын
*Laughs in ambush*
@wxj5640
@wxj5640 2 жыл бұрын
meanwhile after 10 generations, 194 years later...
@razorsharpview9090
@razorsharpview9090 2 жыл бұрын
200 years Laaterrr...
@magellantv
@magellantv 2 жыл бұрын
We honestly just learned so much 👏
@Callmecel
@Callmecel 2 жыл бұрын
🤛 There are actual centuries of history here that never get discussed! We've got many more episodes coming ;)
@OnlyInMelsele
@OnlyInMelsele 2 жыл бұрын
This great series about an underrated topic continues! I thank the invicta team.
@MoritzvonSchweinitz
@MoritzvonSchweinitz 2 жыл бұрын
Just to clarify: this was "Hannibal Mago", about 200 years before the famous "Hannibal " (Barca)
@Strider91
@Strider91 2 жыл бұрын
Well, both were famous. . . .
@nisarbo3781
@nisarbo3781 2 жыл бұрын
You left out a crucial part of why Carthage actually was so successful in this campaign: It wasnt only strategy but they were first to utilize advanced siege engineering in the Mediterranean such as siege towers & tortoises (roofed battering rams covered with iron plates for fire resistance). These were engines that were unknown to the greek world yet in 410 BC and thus they didnt know how to actually defend against this since siege warfare between greek city states was different at the time & only consisted of cutting the besieged city from supply lines & starving out the opponent. That's also a reason why Syracuse under Dionysius copied & deployed them 10 years later for his campaign vs Carthage. From Syracuse then they reached mainland greece & were then later commonly used in the hellenic empires under Alexander the Great & the following Diadochi Empires. This kind of advanced siege warfare was a legacy of Carthage that spread across the entire Mediterranean in the centuries to come.
@sologemeni
@sologemeni 2 жыл бұрын
Same, I'd also love a source for this. Fascinating. EDIT: Did some research and although I couldn't easily find any mention of the Carthaginians pioneering siege warfare, it does indeed appear that siege towers, at the very least, started entering the Hellenic world after about 350 BC on average.
@cpp3221
@cpp3221 2 жыл бұрын
Source please
@omayah
@omayah 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to add that advanced siege warfare likely came from Assyria to Carthage. The Assyrians invented most siege engines used in the ancient world/classical world. Source: wikipedia 🤷🏽‍♂️
@nisarbo3781
@nisarbo3781 2 жыл бұрын
@@omayah nobody claimed that Carthage invented them but phoenicians from the Levante brought the know-how from the Assyrians, who invented the first known siege engines, to Carthage which then they developped them even further and were then first to utilize them in the mediterranean on the battlefields
@nisarbo3781
@nisarbo3781 2 жыл бұрын
i was trying to post sources but it wouldnt let me post links here so I just quote it directly: "The first Mediterranean people to use advanced siege machinery were the Carthaginians, who used siege towers and battering rams against the Greek colonies of Sicily. These engines influenced the ruler of Syracuse, Dionysius I, who developed a catapult in 399 BC." "The Catapult: A History", Tracy Rihall, 2007 The primary source is Diodorus Siculus in his work "Library of History" Book 13 Chapter 54 & 55: [...]"after he had invested the city and put his siege-engines in position, he began the assaults with all speed. [7] He set up six towers of exceptional size and advanced an equal number of battering-rams plated with iron against the walls; furthermore, by employing his archers and slingers in great numbers he beat back the fighters on the battlements. The Selinuntians, who had for a long time been without experience in sieges and had been the only Sicilian Greeks to fight on the side of the Carthaginians in the war against Gelon,1 had never conceived that they would be brought to such a state of fear by the people whom they had befriended. [2] But when they saw the great size of the engines of war and the hosts of the enemy, they were filled with dread and dismayed at the magnitude of the danger threatening them."
@Pancake_Nix
@Pancake_Nix 2 жыл бұрын
It gets a bit confusing with so many notable Carthaginians having the same names, but I think it should be pointed out that the Hamilcar I (Mago) and Hannibal (Mago) mentioned in these wars are *not the same generals* as the famous Hannibal (Barca) who marched to Rome and his father Hamilcar (Barca). I know most of you Invicta fans already know this, but I still felt like this needed to be said, because it still confuses me as well sometimes.
@aether3697
@aether3697 Жыл бұрын
Same with Hanno. Besides the Hanno politicians, there is also "Hanno the Navigator"
@Pancake_Nix
@Pancake_Nix Жыл бұрын
@@aether3697Honestly, I have no idea how these people got their mail to arrive to the right people xD
@markredacted8547
@markredacted8547 2 жыл бұрын
You and your team bring the ancient world alive through amazing retellings, or walking through ancient cities. I cannot emphasise how much I enjoy what you and your team do, may the gods give you plenty this campaigning season 😊
@parsman9914
@parsman9914 2 жыл бұрын
Punic-Sicilian Wars are underrated. No less important than Punic Wars, in my opinion.
@mk9650
@mk9650 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you continue the series and cover the greatest Chad to ever live, Timoleon the Corinthian who diposed all Sicilian tyrants and saved the Greeks of Sicily from inevitable anihilation in the hands of Carthage.
@nisarbo3781
@nisarbo3781 2 жыл бұрын
Besides one victory in an ambush while carthages army crossed a river he achieved not much while Hannibal Mago & Himilco literally Blitzkrieged the entire island with destroying half a dozen greek cities and a few battle victories vs greek armies lol these were the real chads
@mk9650
@mk9650 2 жыл бұрын
@@nisarbo3781 He won a decisive engagement against an army 7 times larger than his that guaranteed Greek presence on the island that lasts to this day, while Carthagenian influence has been long been extinguished.
@bigmonkedong
@bigmonkedong 2 жыл бұрын
@@mk9650 extinguished by the Romans, not the Greeks
@qwasyx0
@qwasyx0 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigmonkedong roman loved greek culture and hated carthage, later roman empire was basically greek and identified as such
@bigmonkedong
@bigmonkedong 2 жыл бұрын
@@qwasyx0 Still, Rome destroyed Carthage and not the greeks :) Rome conquered Carthage and they conquered Greece. What you're talking about ( the greek identity ) came with Byzantium later on. But yes, the Roman copied the greek culture at first, but they also had greeks as slaves.
@freeloader510
@freeloader510 2 жыл бұрын
Good video as always! This part of Carthaginian history is not well known and only one source (Diodorus) paints a rather detailed picture of the period. But as far as Carthaginian history was concerned sources were always against them one way or another. This campaign is the height of the Carthaginian power in Sicily. But throughout the history of the Sicilian Wars Carthage never meant to capture and rule over all the Sicily they sacked and razed cities but never populated them with their own or allied citizens. Most Carthaginian campaigns aimed the prevent greeks cities from becoming too solid or over-aggressive.
@dtice69
@dtice69 2 жыл бұрын
"Most Carthaginian campaigns aimed the prevent greeks cities from becoming too solid or over-aggressive." This is what most campaigns, throughout history, are done for. Whether you conquer them, depopulate a city, enslave them etc. If you win, you set your enemy back, in the hopes of keeping them from becoming more powerful. Greece, Rome, China, Mongolia etc are no different in this aspect.
@DesertAres
@DesertAres 2 жыл бұрын
Rome unlike Carthage encouraged it's settlers to move into conquered areas. The citizen population of Carthage was never that large and they, (I think) thought like some other later empires that it was only necessary to send out administrative and military rule.
@ivandicivan4189
@ivandicivan4189 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zeerich-yx9po Carthage had bigger population that Rome (500 000 vs 350 000) during Punic wars, if we go back in history difference would be much bigger. Thing is that Romans gave Roman citizenship to some conquered or allied cities, practice uncommon in ancient world, especially uncommon among Greeks and Punics.
@danieleriksson5587
@danieleriksson5587 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zeerich-yx9po it is pretty well established that they did sacrifice children
@benjamindover2601
@benjamindover2601 2 жыл бұрын
There is always a Hannibal when you need him most.
@MFC343
@MFC343 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! it means alot. nobody covers this at all.
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 2 жыл бұрын
Rome later: * I’m in danger!*
@wankawanka3053
@wankawanka3053 Жыл бұрын
Scipio africanus joins the chat
@sankarchaya
@sankarchaya 2 жыл бұрын
A lesson from history - if there's a guy named Hamilcar who has a descendant named Hannibal, it's worse for you in the long run to defeat them
@kerosam763
@kerosam763 2 жыл бұрын
16:34 a siege within a siege Caesar: write that down write that down!
@cybair9341
@cybair9341 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see that there was some form of diplomacy near the end. Also, allowing the citizens to escape the siege was a great humane move.
@dayros2023
@dayros2023 2 жыл бұрын
To storm the city would have been almost impossible otherwise.
@Strider91
@Strider91 2 жыл бұрын
It has nothing to do with humanitarianism. It was a 100 percent tactical choice
@alejandrosakai1744
@alejandrosakai1744 2 жыл бұрын
In your video "Growing up as a Carthaginian", we had two persons, a numb Punic Soldier, and a Greek-Sicilian Child, both victims of the Punic-Sicilian war!
@kp-legacy-5477
@kp-legacy-5477 2 жыл бұрын
This video is about Hannibal Mago . Not Hannibal Barca . For those people that are confused
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 2 жыл бұрын
Mental this happened so long ago. You had continent spanning empires of technical marvels, meanwhile my family in England was probably living in huts catching fish.
@VojislavMoranic
@VojislavMoranic 2 жыл бұрын
And my family in the forests of Eastern Europe trying to hide from the marijuana smoking, human skin saddle riding Scythians. Thank God i live in a time with no steppe nomads.
@davidcervantes9336
@davidcervantes9336 2 жыл бұрын
Civilization started in warm places. It later migrated elsewhere.
@Rndm9
@Rndm9 2 жыл бұрын
Most regular mediterranean people also lived in huts catching fish (and farming). And british tribes definitely had epic stories of their own at this time, it's just that we don't know about them. But I get what you mean.
@kp-legacy-5477
@kp-legacy-5477 2 жыл бұрын
Your family likely wasn't in England at this time. Depends actually If you're Welsh then maybe .but from anywhere else on the British isles you are likely of Saxon/Dane heritage A thousand years of colonisation occured on the UK's shores before the Vikings rocked up
@hugodesrosiers-plaisance3156
@hugodesrosiers-plaisance3156 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Pheonicians. One of my favorite Peoples through History.
@hannibalbarca8411
@hannibalbarca8411 2 жыл бұрын
* u mean carthaginians
@sifis172
@sifis172 2 жыл бұрын
thanks, great art. i'd like to see more of the sicilian wars!
@k98_zock_tv47
@k98_zock_tv47 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent made and interesting presented
@folken1761
@folken1761 2 жыл бұрын
General + Hannibal = A fuckin genius monster no matter the era
@giod6266
@giod6266 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, very nice! Not much is known about these wars. Looking forward for next episode on Sicilian wars.
@mjs24
@mjs24 2 жыл бұрын
The animations are amazing! Great video.
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! These wars are fascinating to study.
@thelostpsychosis
@thelostpsychosis Жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering, no, this is not Hannibal Barca, this is Hannibal Mago, Barca is the one who crossed the alps and wreaked havoc through Italy
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 Жыл бұрын
Anyone interested in reading a historical novel set in Carthage should read Gustave Flaubert's novel "Salammbo" which is set in the period when Carthage's mercenaries revolted following its defeat in the First Punic War.Flaubert deliberately made an anachronism in this novel by having the protagonist enter Carthage despite the siege by climbing up the aqueduct (which was not actually constructed until the Roman period)The highlight of the story is the immolation of the children to Moloch which the Phoenicians allegedly did in times of crisis.
@Antaragni2012
@Antaragni2012 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your work! Well done!
@KimKhan
@KimKhan 2 жыл бұрын
How fortuitous to see a series on this topic when LittleWarsTV is having a Hannibal campaign series.
@juansanchez5001
@juansanchez5001 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your videos and thank you for your hard work
@anthonybraceful1945
@anthonybraceful1945 2 жыл бұрын
You’re right!! I was thinking about Hannibal Barca
@drillxedit
@drillxedit 2 жыл бұрын
2:53 Why did you depict the Carthaginians wearing Greek hoplite armour?
@nisarbo3781
@nisarbo3781 2 жыл бұрын
Most native Carthaginians either fought as a cavalryman or hoplite. Many Carthaginians adopted the greek hoplite warfare due to their interaction with them
@hannibalbarca8411
@hannibalbarca8411 2 жыл бұрын
The war clothes were mostly the same in the Mediterranean civilizations
@rorschach1985ify
@rorschach1985ify Жыл бұрын
@@nisarbo3781 I think it has more to do with us sadly not knowing much on what the Carthaginians looked like thanks to Rome removing most of the evidence. We have like one unique chest plate showing what some of the higher ranked soldiers or generals would have worn but not much else. I would think they used Greek style armor later on in their wars and contacts with the Greeks but maybe would have still used more of their own unique set of armor as well. Taking some inspiration from the Romans as well who themselves used Chain mail armor they took from the Gauls is also something I have heard.
@CitrisJones
@CitrisJones 2 жыл бұрын
I read about this in the book Tyrant by Manfredi the exact same day this video came out. What a crazy coincidence!
@johnsmitty7447
@johnsmitty7447 2 жыл бұрын
i was confused by the dates and it took me a while to figure out there is 2 hannibals
@huantruonginh2946
@huantruonginh2946 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, so it turned out that building fortifications around the enemy who were fortifying their position around your allies' fortress could not stop the fortified enemy from effortlessly taking the fortified allied city which ,as a result, allowed them to fortify their power on the island and prevented you from fortifying relation with your allies!
@sarcasmo57
@sarcasmo57 Жыл бұрын
History is bloody.
@stevenpatrick9213
@stevenpatrick9213 2 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant
@bigmonkedong
@bigmonkedong 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome content! May Baal and Tanit bless you! Hail Carthage!
@wilkinstokarev5705
@wilkinstokarev5705 2 жыл бұрын
This hannibal is as bold and ambitious as his descendant 200 plus years later
@daotrongkhanh1205
@daotrongkhanh1205 2 жыл бұрын
After this video, I realize there are at least more than 2 Hannibal; Can you list how many Hannibal served as general of Carthage?
@mykomatos5445
@mykomatos5445 2 жыл бұрын
Probably more. This same channel has an episode ("growing up carthaginian") in which it is mentioned that though their naming method offered vast possibilities, families of high standing most often chose from a much shorter list of prestigious names
@thelstanedwardsson4374
@thelstanedwardsson4374 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video
@vangelisskia214
@vangelisskia214 2 жыл бұрын
"GREEK SIGNATURE DNA influence can be seen in Southern Italy and Sicily, where the genetic contribution of Greek chromosomes to the Sicilian gene pool is estimated to be about 37%, and the southern Balkans" Di Gaetano, Cornelia; et al. (2009). European Journal of Human Genetics. 17 (1): 91-99.
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
@-RONNIE
@-RONNIE 2 жыл бұрын
Good video 👍🏻
@rhogerian2295
@rhogerian2295 2 жыл бұрын
Always good to see why Sicily is so hostile
@stanchpandora3658
@stanchpandora3658 2 жыл бұрын
2 different Hannibals fighting 2 different 2nd Punic Wars. What a strange coincidence.
@randomanonymousperson7582
@randomanonymousperson7582 2 жыл бұрын
can you do Xenophon's Anabasis next??
@Terlerst
@Terlerst 2 жыл бұрын
I live with the hope that you one day will do a video on King Sigurd I of Norway and his crusade to jerusalem a.k.a. the Viking Crusade.
@joehoul
@joehoul 2 жыл бұрын
10:28 No wonder they won the siege, they had two Dodge Rams!
@tannerdenny5430
@tannerdenny5430 2 жыл бұрын
I love anything Carthage.
@wankawanka3053
@wankawanka3053 2 жыл бұрын
Child sacrifices
@hannibalbarca8411
@hannibalbarca8411 2 жыл бұрын
@@wankawanka3053 western propaganda
@stjohnsilver9538
@stjohnsilver9538 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@DesertAres
@DesertAres 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a breathless, detailed war between the Greeks and Carthagians over Sicily. I cannot find any source that refers to Hamilcar as King, except as shown in quotation marks.Also because of the limited patrimony or lack of imagination in Carthage, it would probably help to list the family names of Gisco, Mago, Barca to keep the Hasrubal, Hannibal, Hanno etc separated. I guess upon reflection the Punic commanders should have realized that a conglomerate group of Greeks giving them such trouble bodes ill for a war of extinction with those arrogrant, single minded guys further up the Italian peninsula.
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl 2 жыл бұрын
The names repeating is actually really common in astocratic societies. Even rome is guilty of it
@DesertAres
@DesertAres Жыл бұрын
Calling Hamilcar king is what I am saying. The Carthaginians did not have kings at this time.@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
@ibrahimsuleiman8473
@ibrahimsuleiman8473 2 жыл бұрын
Romans are seriously bad ass,to be able to defeat Carthage is no joke.
@wankawanka3053
@wankawanka3053 2 жыл бұрын
Eeehh pyrrhus of epirus had already defeated with pyrrhic victories the romans and he recked the Carthaginians in Sicily
@awesomehpt8938
@awesomehpt8938 2 жыл бұрын
I found the title for this video very confusing at first lol
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 2 жыл бұрын
That tends to happen with Carthaginian history where a ton of leading figures share names
@kp-legacy-5477
@kp-legacy-5477 2 жыл бұрын
@@InvictaHistory hey Invicta Perhaps you guys should add a year count at the top of your videos It may help abit for those that aren't already familiar with the history Great video btw
@archaeaoris900
@archaeaoris900 2 жыл бұрын
2:03-2:25, casual Greeks. Killing each other when they don't have anyone else to fight.
@herreramissions6283
@herreramissions6283 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question that I've wondered for so long because I'm interested in history. How come when they give several accounts about how large armies were in the past, we never believe them? We don't just say oh they were probably off by a couple thousand, we outright say they were lying about the number by more than half?
@meisterproper8304
@meisterproper8304 2 жыл бұрын
Cause many numbers are just ridiculous. Like Persia having 600 000 troops in a battle against Alexander doesn't make sense at all. The logistics of feeding such an amount of people on the open field in ancient times would be insane
@kp-legacy-5477
@kp-legacy-5477 2 жыл бұрын
@@meisterproper8304 what proof do we have that they are false claims. Many historical texts were once seen as too crazy yet countless times the epic histories have been shown as true
@samdumaquis2033
@samdumaquis2033 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible
@beachboy0505
@beachboy0505 2 жыл бұрын
amazing video 📹 amazing graphics 👌 Once the Carthage were masters
@bryantcrump7018
@bryantcrump7018 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos but I think you should do this over
@mx1985AA
@mx1985AA 2 жыл бұрын
Epic ⚔
@manicli66
@manicli66 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know the name of the music song starting around 7:00?
@sG_Paradise
@sG_Paradise 2 жыл бұрын
Background music name?
@hannibalb8276
@hannibalb8276 2 жыл бұрын
I approve of this video
@falcombr123
@falcombr123 2 жыл бұрын
Damnnn, no mercy for the wicked.
@CallMeMark231
@CallMeMark231 2 жыл бұрын
Might want to purge the bots at the bottom of the comments
@TheWolfmanMachinima
@TheWolfmanMachinima 2 жыл бұрын
Watching ;)
@hihi-nm3uy
@hihi-nm3uy 2 жыл бұрын
Early, but is the title meant to say 410BC?
@capac2
@capac2 2 жыл бұрын
Which Hannibal is this? Whats his nickname or epithet ?
@hannibalbarca8411
@hannibalbarca8411 2 жыл бұрын
Hannibal was a famous name . But this hannibal was " hannibal Mago " not hannibal Barca
@capac2
@capac2 2 жыл бұрын
@@hannibalbarca8411 yup exactly, thats why asked. Wasnt sure, thank you
@RandomNorwegianGuy.
@RandomNorwegianGuy. 2 жыл бұрын
In the end, Carthage reaped what it sowed. The final revenge, coming from Rome only 250ish years later
@anthonybraceful1945
@anthonybraceful1945 2 жыл бұрын
Yes excellent point. I knew Hannibal Barca was not even born during this conflict!
@mouhamedkayis543
@mouhamedkayis543 2 жыл бұрын
Is hannibal mago
@xx_legend5805
@xx_legend5805 2 жыл бұрын
Hi invicta btw can you make history of Indonesia?
@daniel-fs2ux
@daniel-fs2ux 2 жыл бұрын
Units of History: Athens - Infantry, Light Infantry, Skirmishers, Navy, Cavalry, etc.
@pseudomonas03
@pseudomonas03 2 жыл бұрын
Dionysius of Syracuse, Timoleon, Agathocles, Pyrrhus. There are still a lot more to come.
@ktheterkuceder6825
@ktheterkuceder6825 2 жыл бұрын
Nice but I want to see some mercenary war content. Hamilcar is even more underrated than Phillip of Macedon.
@wankawanka3053
@wankawanka3053 2 жыл бұрын
Phillip of Macedon is far better he literally took the most backwards greek state and made it number one
@ktheterkuceder6825
@ktheterkuceder6825 2 жыл бұрын
@@wankawanka3053 And Hamilcar actually made a loyal effective army of his own that would aid his son just like that of Phillip would Alexander.
@wankawanka3053
@wankawanka3053 Жыл бұрын
​@@ktheterkuceder6825 yeah but did they take a backwater state and make it the most powerful one in the known world like phillip did?
@ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣΚΙΤΣΟΣ-φ1μ
@ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣΚΙΤΣΟΣ-φ1μ 2 жыл бұрын
The mighty Carthage being challenged by two cities that fight amongst themselves while having one of the strongest empires of the age
@nisarbo3781
@nisarbo3781 2 жыл бұрын
Carthage was literally "one city" too. All their other colonies & towns were smaller residents than a greek city state on average except Carthage itself which was more populous & larger. Definitely more than 2 cities syracuse for instance used as much mercenaries as Carthage did. Recorded by Diodorus they hired Iberian & Italian soldiers as well such as Oscans, Bruttians, Samnites, Etruscans, Senones (Celts of Northern Italy) & Campanians. Under Dionysius Syracuse almost controlled the entirety of southern Italy up until Tarentum & eastern Sicily and also received help from mainland greece occassionally too such as from Corinth or Sparta hence why he was able to assemble an army of 83,000 men for example
@wankawanka3053
@wankawanka3053 2 жыл бұрын
@@nisarbo3781 geographically speaking Carthage had an advantage
@rorschach1985ify
@rorschach1985ify Жыл бұрын
@@wankawanka3053 No they did not. They had more lands and money to draw mercenaries from but the Geography favored the Greeks who lived in most of Sicily.
@gaiusmanus7959
@gaiusmanus7959 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny how both Hannibals come to the areas their at war with completely dominate and then just leave
@TheMan-je5xq
@TheMan-je5xq 2 жыл бұрын
13:03 wasn’t Hamilcar his father?
@kp-legacy-5477
@kp-legacy-5477 2 жыл бұрын
This Mago Not Barca
@TheMan-je5xq
@TheMan-je5xq 2 жыл бұрын
@@kp-legacy-5477 oh silly me I didn’t notice the year was 410 B.C. 😂
@TheSm1thers
@TheSm1thers 2 жыл бұрын
Idk why Hannibal didn't stay in Sicily. Carthage never seemed to press the advantage very well, allowing their opponents to recover and making their wars long and bloody. Seems to be one of the reasons they lost to the Romans despite them suffering heavy losses from natural causes.
@wankawanka3053
@wankawanka3053 2 жыл бұрын
They were dumb and deserved what came to them
@rorschach1985ify
@rorschach1985ify Жыл бұрын
It's because Carthage did not fight to expand their lands, more their trade networks and protectorates. Where as Greeks and especially Romans would send colonists of their people to inhabit the lands their conquered, the Carthaginians were more concerned with keeping their enemies in check and allowing their trade routes to flourish and keep their allies well off. It definitely started to bite them in the ass against the Greeks and later Romans but for a time it made sense with their strategy of focusing more on trade and not over expanding themselves when they could not afford to hold over such a vast amount of land.
@gr33ny24
@gr33ny24 Жыл бұрын
You also have to remember that Carthaginian army composed of mercenaries, which probably required a fortune to keep and supply from a long term perspective
@z54964380
@z54964380 2 жыл бұрын
Bois have I been transported to another parallel universe because I swear I watched an invicta video on the siege of the city of Carthage before, now I can't find shit on youtube about it
@kp-legacy-5477
@kp-legacy-5477 2 жыл бұрын
May have been kings and generals
@schoolofgrowthhacking
@schoolofgrowthhacking 2 жыл бұрын
We're super confused. Hannibal? 410 BC? If it's a different Hannibal you ought to make it clear in the title bcs we're all thinking of the wrong person :P Or the dude is just a vampire who lived for 300 years...
@kp-legacy-5477
@kp-legacy-5477 2 жыл бұрын
Many Hannibals were generals of Carthage and this is indeed the Hannibal Mago and not Barca
@Lion718
@Lion718 2 жыл бұрын
This would be Hannibal Mago, not Barca.
@MBP1918
@MBP1918 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@josephphoenix1376
@josephphoenix1376 2 жыл бұрын
Glory to the Barcids💫✨🎉🎊
@jasonashley4579
@jasonashley4579 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in an Italian neighborhood in Kansas City, my grandparents immigrated from Castlevetrano Sicily, I hope to see it someday.
@johndoe5432
@johndoe5432 2 жыл бұрын
Wow the Carthaginians were brutal when sacking cities, surely this will not eventually bite them in the ass. 🤔
@nvmtt
@nvmtt 2 жыл бұрын
4:45. wait.........Segesta is in sicily and not north of Rome? My whole life has been a lie.
@thehawk7064
@thehawk7064 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Hannibal was Hamilcar’s son.. not grandson? And it was Hamilcar that was the Carthaginian General of Sicily.. Hannibal was only 9 by the time the 1st Punic war ended.
@kp-legacy-5477
@kp-legacy-5477 2 жыл бұрын
This is about Hannibal Mago Not the famous barca Their was many Hannibal generals
@kentjensen4939
@kentjensen4939 Жыл бұрын
Oops, wrong Hannibal.
@mito88
@mito88 2 жыл бұрын
wasn't hamilcar hannibal's father?
@tinashesibenge912
@tinashesibenge912 2 жыл бұрын
He was
@kp-legacy-5477
@kp-legacy-5477 2 жыл бұрын
This is about Mago You are thinking of Barca
@kanenasithaki4669
@kanenasithaki4669 2 жыл бұрын
easy to see why the Greeks backed up Rome in their Punic wars
@nisarbo3781
@nisarbo3781 2 жыл бұрын
Not true the hellenic world was divided during the punic wars some backed Rome and some backed Carthage, Carthage's army especially during the 1st punic war had large contingents of greek troops from mainland greece & sicily recruited as mercenaries fighting for them. One of these greek mercs even became famous as he led a Punic army to victory in North Africa. A Spartan named Xanthippos. Also during the 2nd punic war after Cannae, entire sicily including Syracuse and former greek city-states such as Tarentum, Croton & most of Southern Italy which were by then mostly still greek-speaking then allied with Hannibal, as well as Macedon under Phillip V.
@wankawanka3053
@wankawanka3053 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on what greeks you are talking about sonce they had different views on things
@rollandchapin5308
@rollandchapin5308 2 жыл бұрын
Your dates are wrong Hannibal was born 247 BC , His Father Fought in Sicily , Not him - Barca - translates to lion ---the Ancient world referred to the Familiy As the "Lion's Brood" because of how they tamed spain and paid of the Roman War tax . in 1 generation. Almost all of Hamilcar' s Family were very talented. There was Hasdrubal , Mago and a sister that almost , seduce and almost married , Massinisa . King of the Numidian's. How different would the battle of Zama have been with all the Numidians fighting for Hannibal???? all good we both love our history.
@LucasDimoveo
@LucasDimoveo 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy I wasn't born in the Iron Age
@HalaMadridKaka
@HalaMadridKaka 2 жыл бұрын
300 year timeline difference
@alexcavoli6191
@alexcavoli6191 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't 410BCE a little before Hannabils time? You mean 210BCE maybe?
@folken1761
@folken1761 2 жыл бұрын
It's a different Hannibal, this one's family name is Mago
@road-eo6911
@road-eo6911 2 жыл бұрын
This is a different Hannibal. An older one, it's very confusing
@Spiderfisch
@Spiderfisch 2 жыл бұрын
The Carthaginians didnt have many names Everyones either named Hanno Hasdrubal Hamilkar or Hannibal
@alexcavoli6191
@alexcavoli6191 2 жыл бұрын
There's another Hannibal who is the son of another Hamilcar? Wow the Roman's have the same problem, no imagination.
@Callmecel
@Callmecel 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexcavoli6191 yeppp. Hardest part of writing history is that, oftentimes, people just have the same names. We tried to emphasize at the top of the video that this was a different Hannibal...but it's hard when there are a total of 5 or so Carthaginian names 😂🙃
@vangelisskia214
@vangelisskia214 2 жыл бұрын
Typically, Greeks fighting one another...
@kalemerabasileia10
@kalemerabasileia10 2 жыл бұрын
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