Words of Hanno The Navigator - Ancient Explorer // 5th century BC // Primary Source

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@Stripedbottom
@Stripedbottom 5 жыл бұрын
We have 65 ships and 30,000 people. *damn, some guys are throwing stones at us, we can't disembark here*
@gostavoadolfos2023
@gostavoadolfos2023 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly how I thought
@JEELEN2
@JEELEN2 5 жыл бұрын
Ancient numbers are generally best taken with a grain of salt (as in divide by 10). Also, you made up 'some guys'. Most likely warriors, which is kind of inconvenient if you want to take in water and all your crew are sailors.
@Stripedbottom
@Stripedbottom 5 жыл бұрын
@@JEELEN2 You just made up 'warriors' yourself...
@JEELEN2
@JEELEN2 5 жыл бұрын
@@Stripedbottom Oh, I'm sorry, I meant to say 'little kids throwing rocks'. Of course they were warriors, they scared off sailors. Use your brain.
@alexp.2897
@alexp.2897 5 жыл бұрын
@@JEELEN2 If you knew anything about the Carthaginians, then you would not be surprised that they could field a fleet of 65 ships and 30 thousand settlers. Given that Carthage came to be out of settling expeditions, and the city alone was half a million inhabitants in its prime.
@louisgentilucci1188
@louisgentilucci1188 5 жыл бұрын
What a fascinating read. When the world was larger, and everything unwritten.
@robolo4228
@robolo4228 5 жыл бұрын
The world around us is still large, all you have to do is to look up.
@louisgentilucci1188
@louisgentilucci1188 5 жыл бұрын
@@robolo4228 That's true, but there is still a sense of the unknown, where the map of the world could have been very different, and a sense of history, where the nations of the world could have been very different. Imagine a world where Carthage turned the western end of north Africa into a trading center tied to the Mediterranean, or vast trading centers that connected to the Americas hundreds of years earlier.
@MrPokerblot
@MrPokerblot 5 жыл бұрын
@@caiawlodarski5339 but at the same time. The exploitation of the earth is the exploration of the universe. Sorry to be pedantic.
@dzonikg
@dzonikg 5 жыл бұрын
@@caiawlodarski5339 drop your phone and start exporing..when i am in new town or area i dont use my phone or gps ..its so much more fun..and when i get lost i actually like it and then ask real people for advice
@michaelney2732
@michaelney2732 4 жыл бұрын
@@dzonikg yeah i often do that in my town. Electronic maps are shit, it guides me thru narrow alleyways. Ask people however, is much reliable
@Pyro-Moloch
@Pyro-Moloch 5 жыл бұрын
Just to make sure nobody gets confused: When he mentions ethiopians, he means black people. It has nothing to do with the modern country of Ethiopia.
@MooPotPie
@MooPotPie 5 жыл бұрын
Correct. "Ethiopians" was used in this sense into the early 20th century.
@mannyman1012
@mannyman1012 5 жыл бұрын
Why do you say this? When modern day Ethiopians trace back to 1000 bc? When you say black what do you mean, My DNA has no connection to Ethiopia neither do any of my family.
@Pyro-Moloch
@Pyro-Moloch 5 жыл бұрын
@@mannyman1012 what?
@mannyman1012
@mannyman1012 5 жыл бұрын
@@Pyro-Moloch what do you mean by black people? As in those who were the majority of the slave trade? Or as a general description of anyone with a melanin content higher then that of the Caucasians.
@Pyro-Moloch
@Pyro-Moloch 5 жыл бұрын
@@mannyman1012 I mean, what greeks meant by "burnt face". That's what the greek word "aethiopian" originally meant, and it was used to describe people with high melanin content. Btw I'm a native of Caucasus and if you're gonna nitpick about my usage of terminology, I will start nitpicking about your use of the word "Caucasian". Pretty sure you don't mean peoples of Caucasus by it, because we tend to range in melanin from pale-white to dark-brown.
@miguelsuarez-solis5027
@miguelsuarez-solis5027 4 жыл бұрын
Exploring as an ancient explorer must have been like traveling to alien worlds
@nathan_408
@nathan_408 4 жыл бұрын
it's weirder than us going to mars nowadays
@andres6868
@andres6868 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathan_408 absolutely, we know far more about Mars or any other planet of the solar system for that matter than they knew about Africa.
@ahmedawedni2362
@ahmedawedni2362 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathan_408 hahaha true
@KS-nm6rt
@KS-nm6rt 3 жыл бұрын
Similar to South London
@krono5el
@krono5el 3 жыл бұрын
not really because civilization was already around thousands of years all over the planet, it was just new for europeans
@dodec8449
@dodec8449 5 жыл бұрын
I love how the journey gets darker and darker, this would be a great movie or Netflix series.
@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506
@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 5 жыл бұрын
Apocalypse now
@forgetfulfunctor1
@forgetfulfunctor1 5 жыл бұрын
Heart Of darkness
@jannatalis4697
@jannatalis4697 5 жыл бұрын
To be honest, anything that netflix touches turns to shit.
@taroman7100
@taroman7100 5 жыл бұрын
truly but all these people can produce is crap!
@timvanrijn8239
@timvanrijn8239 5 жыл бұрын
It might have a bad impresion for a story to get more dark the further you get into africa. Maybe if you do it well and film the natives as monsters to the chakters but normal to the viewer.
@kewlboi5420
@kewlboi5420 5 жыл бұрын
I did my middle school project in Hanno and I can't tell you how joyful and cathartic I feel now. Love this channel!
@Insectoid_
@Insectoid_ 5 жыл бұрын
Kewl Boi listen to the song Al Stewart wrote
@kewlboi5420
@kewlboi5420 5 жыл бұрын
@@Insectoid_ it's both annoying and satisfying but the cover art boat is very cool
@michiganstatearchaeologyte800
@michiganstatearchaeologyte800 3 жыл бұрын
Hanno was a black guy. A raw ethiopian when they ruled this glohe. EGYPTIANS will tell you that. King Tuts dna was ethiopian E1B1A. God bless you guys!
@justin_5631
@justin_5631 3 жыл бұрын
don't you mean cathargic?
@kewlboi5420
@kewlboi5420 3 жыл бұрын
@@justin_5631 u are the best
@MatthewMcVeagh
@MatthewMcVeagh 3 жыл бұрын
I'll never cease to be gobsmacked by that reference to gorillas as if they were 'savage' humans. Other explorers meet other human groups who they see as beasts or inhuman; Hanno meets members of another species and includes them in humanity.
@AceSoprano18
@AceSoprano18 Жыл бұрын
And then kills and flays them.
@MatthewMcVeagh
@MatthewMcVeagh Жыл бұрын
@@AceSoprano18 Did he? I didn't know that.
@AceSoprano18
@AceSoprano18 Жыл бұрын
@@MatthewMcVeagh Yeah, it's in this very video.
@emoney85123
@emoney85123 Жыл бұрын
right?! “never met anyone like her, let me hang her on my wall”
@AG-ig8uf
@AG-ig8uf Жыл бұрын
@@AceSoprano18 Well they refused their advances and even bit them.. I am more fascinated that he called them "hairy women" lol, so hairy was the only part abnormal to him
@firstnlastnamethe3rd771
@firstnlastnamethe3rd771 4 жыл бұрын
*And the hairy women had a King,* who's name was "Kong"
@nathan_408
@nathan_408 4 жыл бұрын
racist
@firstnlastnamethe3rd771
@firstnlastnamethe3rd771 4 жыл бұрын
Against, Hairy Women? Or, Giant Apes? ☝️😐 I don't want either one, in _my_ Neighborhood! 🖐️😡
@mirzaahmed6589
@mirzaahmed6589 4 жыл бұрын
Who was a donkey?
@LuizAlexPhoenix
@LuizAlexPhoenix 3 жыл бұрын
Universal Studios wants to know your location to send a DMCA
@firstnlastnamethe3rd771
@firstnlastnamethe3rd771 3 жыл бұрын
@@LuizAlexPhoenix I'm kinda surprised I've never got one before?
@GreenMorningDragonProductions
@GreenMorningDragonProductions 5 жыл бұрын
I've known about Hanno since I was a teenager and picked up a wonderful old book called 'Great Navigators and Discoverers' in my local library.
@Mality
@Mality 4 жыл бұрын
I also read that book! Was always interested in the discoverers of ancient times...
@michaelbalfour3170
@michaelbalfour3170 5 жыл бұрын
This channel might be the first I become a patreon for. Just amazing.
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 5 жыл бұрын
Woops I should set that up! Thank for the kind words!
@michaelbalfour3170
@michaelbalfour3170 5 жыл бұрын
@@VoicesofthePast please do, would love to support!
@swatsaw6
@swatsaw6 5 жыл бұрын
they refused to be kidnapped so we flayed them ... damn
@genericalfishtycoon3853
@genericalfishtycoon3853 4 жыл бұрын
*Based.
@Hashishin13
@Hashishin13 4 жыл бұрын
You get a gorilla bite and you would probably feel like flaying too.
@YOURTECHFRIEND
@YOURTECHFRIEND 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing they could/would even catch them!? I'd be super happy to see them Gorillas run off :-D
@NoRockinMansLand
@NoRockinMansLand Жыл бұрын
@@genericalfishtycoon3853 cringe
@strategossable1366
@strategossable1366 5 жыл бұрын
I am so glad that I found this channel, the way that you describe things makes history seem so much more interesting/real/magical. Only thing I have to suggest is that you make the locations a little clearer for these explorers, as at points I was unsure where exactly they were meant to be.
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 5 жыл бұрын
The tricky part is that nobody is completely sure
@Yallan
@Yallan 5 жыл бұрын
Good question with an equally good answer ^^
@ethank.6602
@ethank.6602 5 жыл бұрын
The true age of discovery, being an adventurer at this time wouldve been amazing
@beninwarrior4579
@beninwarrior4579 5 жыл бұрын
Besides ths scurvy, and disentary.
@Arjunarjunskiy
@Arjunarjunskiy 4 жыл бұрын
Benin Warrior Twice the fun
@Navigator87110
@Navigator87110 4 жыл бұрын
And very fatal, very fast.
@scottyj6226
@scottyj6226 4 жыл бұрын
@@beninwarrior4579 empty bowels and limber bones, time to dance.
@BrazilianImperialist
@BrazilianImperialist 2 жыл бұрын
@@beninwarrior4579 Tjat didn't exist back then
@Niiiiith
@Niiiiith 5 жыл бұрын
I love that I’ve found this channel. I’ve checked out so many of your videos in 4 hours. You have a new sub!
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 5 жыл бұрын
Hurrah! Welcome
@Bishka100
@Bishka100 4 жыл бұрын
Hanno make Africa sound like Middle-Earth
@ronjayrose9706
@ronjayrose9706 3 жыл бұрын
Was back then
@cristobalsapiain2709
@cristobalsapiain2709 Жыл бұрын
Was some kinda of but with black people
@johnyricco1220
@johnyricco1220 5 жыл бұрын
If only Hanno knew how much gold there was in west Africa, Carthage might have surpassed Rome
@LuizAlexPhoenix
@LuizAlexPhoenix 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they had gold and even some elite citizen soldiers but they relied on mercenaries and lacked generals. Sending away the best generals, like the one Spartan general that just saved your city from the Romans, is a stupid move.
@accountretired9479
@accountretired9479 3 жыл бұрын
Contrary to popular belief getting into the heart of Africa back then was a whole lot harder than people think, especially before the invention of gun powder and guns. People just didn't return from journeys inland if their intentions were ill.
@johnad101
@johnad101 3 жыл бұрын
Or provided rome with more wealth when they sacked carthage
@iiTzoreo1
@iiTzoreo1 3 жыл бұрын
Carthage wouldn’t be able to conquer the local peoples. Their mercenaries wouldn’t put up with the Ivory Coast conditions for long
@BrazilianImperialist
@BrazilianImperialist 2 жыл бұрын
Rome was humanly superior to carthaginians due to their italic blood, they were bond to greatness
@n0denz
@n0denz 5 жыл бұрын
So Hanno was playing Civ but IRL.
@einzelfeuer_2855
@einzelfeuer_2855 4 жыл бұрын
We all are. We just don't notice cause we're the NPC guys making the hammers, apples, gold and test tubes for the others...
@The_Crimson_Fucker
@The_Crimson_Fucker 4 жыл бұрын
I don't remember the "kill and flay captives" option, if anything it would make for an interesting way to declare war.
@mattmexor2882
@mattmexor2882 4 жыл бұрын
@@The_Crimson_Fucker You can't declare war on animals...
@nocs298
@nocs298 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the coolest research channels I've subbed to in a long time. Thank you so much.
@MaryAnnNytowl
@MaryAnnNytowl 2 жыл бұрын
This is a really interesting and intriguing series on the history of the African peoples and places! I've already got them all queued up to watch, one after the other, and am looking forward to them all! I love learning about the deep, rich history of places I will never get to visit, so this has been, is, and I expect will be such a perfect series of videos on just that thing! ❤ Thank all of you for coming together and doing this!
@dustygrrrl
@dustygrrrl 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a gorilla and getting skinned by some randomers cause you couldn't climb as fast. 😢
@lokitus
@lokitus 5 жыл бұрын
Natural selection for better climbers.
@KonEl-BlackZero
@KonEl-BlackZero 5 жыл бұрын
Dicks out
@sjappiyah4071
@sjappiyah4071 5 жыл бұрын
Dusty Grrl Even worse, they weren’t actual gorillas they were humans, they just called them gorillas because they were hurry and dark 😢 just shows that nothing has changed
@celtofcanaanesurix2245
@celtofcanaanesurix2245 5 жыл бұрын
Samuel Appiah No I’m pretty sure they just had never seen apes before so they thought that they were humans
@Scottirulez
@Scottirulez 5 жыл бұрын
RIP ancient Harambe
@TRAINAlytics
@TRAINAlytics 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if he had brought enough provisions to circumnavigate Africa...he already got 1/4 of the way there, his fleet was perfectly capable of it.
@iksarguards
@iksarguards 5 жыл бұрын
4:23 this passage is very reminiscent of HP Lovecraft’s Call of Cthulhu. Maybe even an inspiration for it.
@iksarguards
@iksarguards 5 жыл бұрын
John Benko That’s debatable, I don’t think Lovecraft ever flayed anyone.
@timvanrijn8239
@timvanrijn8239 5 жыл бұрын
@John Benko i mean the fucker was afraid of airco and non visible light.
@timvanrijn8239
@timvanrijn8239 5 жыл бұрын
@@iksarguards i think its implies exual gorrilas not a human
@tommeakin1732
@tommeakin1732 5 жыл бұрын
@John Benko Hahahaa I literally opened this comment thread of only four comments because I fucking knew there'd be a comment saying something about "racism" 😂 Never has a man been tarred with that like him from what I can tell. Literally every time I see someone say something about the man, someone follows up with that. I've listened to the vast majority of Lovecraft's work and I've not noticed any particularly rampant racism at all. There's use of language that is politically incorrect and out of date for today, which isn't at all surprising, and there is an attitude that is very "of it's time", but he doesn't strike me as a viciously xenophobic person. I'd have thought that someone who was like that either wouldn't include "others" in his works at all, or would consistently and systematically have "others" represented in terrible ways, like always have them as the bad guys - and he really doesn't do that disproportionately
@steppedon
@steppedon 2 жыл бұрын
@@tommeakin1732 Lovecraft was a hardcore racist and hater of Cape Verdeans.
@Mirokuofnite
@Mirokuofnite 5 жыл бұрын
You should do the Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks. The Sultan letter and the reply.
@captinobvious4705
@captinobvious4705 5 жыл бұрын
The historicity of that is shaky at best.
@turcoslav9942
@turcoslav9942 5 жыл бұрын
Sadly they got removed by ottomans after it.
@d4n4nable
@d4n4nable 5 жыл бұрын
@Joe Blow Yes.
@n0denz
@n0denz 5 жыл бұрын
@@captinobvious4705 I thought it was all but verified.
@podlodialgilap3490
@podlodialgilap3490 5 жыл бұрын
KZbin doesn't like that
@DATA-qt3nb
@DATA-qt3nb 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool that this record even survived! I had no idea prior to this the carthaginians made it that far down west Africa
@sjappiyah4071
@sjappiyah4071 5 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite History collab series thus far ! And definitely due for such an under-discussed continent
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@Nedyah74
@Nedyah74 4 жыл бұрын
Hearing those noises coming from the forest in the dark would have creeped me the hell out. Heck, it sounds spooky hearing about it today.
@bigtroll8915
@bigtroll8915 5 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite accounts. Though I must admit, I'm curious as to how his ships managed to cross cape bojador, considering it not only was a massive reef, but nigh impossible to cross going South to North. It was not until massive ocean going vessels built in the later centuries, that avoiding the cape became a possible option.
@CivilizedWasteland
@CivilizedWasteland 4 жыл бұрын
Almost 1000 years it's possible the reef didn't even exist at the time
@BrazilianImperialist
@BrazilianImperialist 2 жыл бұрын
Nah
@JL-tm3rc
@JL-tm3rc Жыл бұрын
it is on the wrong location the straight of heracles is actually located in the gulf of gabes not gibaltar as described by aristotle ARISTOTLE: De Mundo - 393.a.16 to 393b.4 “Firstly then it is said that the Pillars of Heracles are found embraced on the right as one navigates inwards, to the two types of the so called Syrtes (plural of Syrti), of which the one they call great, whereas the other small; and oppositely on exiting the bay not in the same way (as when entering), are formed (in the region outside the bay) three pelages (seas), the Sardinian and that which is named Galatikon (Gallic) or Adrian and following on from them dissecting them sideways vertically is the Sicilian, after this is the Cretan, and following from this, on the one (side) the Egyptian, the Pamfilian and the Syrian, and on the other the Aegean and the Myrtoan” clearly if it is not the straight of gibaltar because it would be too far off from the three pelages which is still named the same today. the syrtes are located in the gulf of gabes plato used the word atlantic pelagos if he meant the atlantic ocean he would have said atlantic okeanos which was also used by other greek writers at that time. Plato also said nessos which means a peninsula or island (example peloponessian war means war in the peninsula of pelopos) Richat is located on a peninsula because back then when the sahara was a forest there is an inner sea (atlantic pelagos ) in the sahara that exits on the gulf of gabes. after the disaster in atlantis the path to atlantis was blocked by a shoal of mud making it unnavigable on the gulf of gabes meaning it was isolated from the Mediterranean. the remnants of this inner sea is the lake tritonis which eventually dried up. the elevation is also not a problem because to be able to reach an elevation of 400 m you will only need 400 km of navigable waterway. where the gradient of the waterway is 1m is to 1km or 1mm to 10m. Azores is not blocked by a shoal of mud and it is located in an okeanos not a pelagos. the rest of the descriptions of plato perfectly fits in addition as stated in the video libya is located after the pillars of heracles which does not match gibaltar but will match gabes. the only possible large lake that is being described is lake tritonis near gabes For a more detailed discussion you could check george sarantitis (plato project) his interpretation fits everything plato has said
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 5 жыл бұрын
love the smooth transition and nice emotive narration
@aresjerry
@aresjerry 5 жыл бұрын
Please Always Continue This Series! If this makes you happy please share that happiness with us. I am thankful to have found your channel ☝🏻
@Supersonic...
@Supersonic... 4 жыл бұрын
What a great channel 👏 I've know idea how this never recommended to me,this the type of channel I follow & watch at least 70%..KZbin should be recommending this a hell of a lot more!....got notifications on🌏⛰
@latrodectusmactans7592
@latrodectusmactans7592 4 жыл бұрын
Oh... Wow. That got dark. It’s interesting how the “gorillas” could have easily instead been chimpanzees, bonobos, or even humans (which would make killing and skinning them even more disturbing). The word “gorilla” comes from Hanno’s account, so we can only rely on the description for clues.
@einzelfeuer_2855
@einzelfeuer_2855 4 жыл бұрын
Considering he was pretty far south of the sahara and described them as extremely hairy and "rude" (meaning crudely, roughly, seemingly human from the context) I've always been certain they were not simply native africans. They were likely not gorrillas but were also likely not actual homo sapiens either. I've always thought because of the biting and tree climbing/rock throwing mentioned that they were most likely chimpanzees. Especially as only a few males and many females were found. The interpreters were africans themselves from further north and gave him the word "gorrilla" for the beings in question. I think of all the things they could have been modern african human and gorrilla are the least likely two of all.
@nathan_408
@nathan_408 4 жыл бұрын
they couldn't be humans, because West Africans don't have their bodies covered by hair
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 4 жыл бұрын
No, you're utterly wrong. At 5:28 *the native translators* called them gorillas, not the Carthaginians.
@latrodectusmactans7592
@latrodectusmactans7592 4 жыл бұрын
@@RonJohn63 My question was what the translators were calling gorillas. I think chimpanzees/bonobos makes the most sense assuming the descriptions are not embellished.
@mahalo675
@mahalo675 2 жыл бұрын
They were not human they weren’t that stupid
@budakbaongsiah
@budakbaongsiah 5 жыл бұрын
Whoa, was this inspired GRRM when he made stories of Targaryen journey through Sothoryos?
@budakbaongsiah
@budakbaongsiah 5 жыл бұрын
@N e g r i t o [tenfold] wat
@budakbaongsiah
@budakbaongsiah 5 жыл бұрын
@N e g r i t o [tenfold] You should've introduce yourself to Medieval history. Then again, you wouldn't like it.
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb 5 жыл бұрын
N e g r i t o [tenfold] alright buddy clearly can’t separate fantasy from reality. Medieval history is fucked welcome to the real world
@kpimkpim349
@kpimkpim349 4 жыл бұрын
@N e g r i t o [tenfold] lol i worked in a pedo-ward when i was in college. They all looked, dressed and talk like GRRM or Jared Fogel. Or somewhere in that spectrum. When something comes out in the next few years, anyone that's surprised is a psycho.
@kpimkpim349
@kpimkpim349 4 жыл бұрын
@N e g r i t o [tenfold] lol, he has a novel from the 70s about a black guy that has super powers but he has to keep having sex to keep them. lol sick is the word.
@barbarianjk2355
@barbarianjk2355 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my! That was fascinating. Should talk about the Inca Tupac Yupanqui's expedition across the Pacific at some point!
@podlodialgilap3490
@podlodialgilap3490 5 жыл бұрын
There's no evidence for that expedition ever took place , it's most likely a legend
@calska140
@calska140 4 жыл бұрын
They chased gorillas? I wouldn't do that today with modern Firearms at hand. Primate strength is very deceitful. Chimps and gorillas may match some humans in size but those humans would literally get torn limb from limb in a physical fight.
@draco_1876
@draco_1876 3 жыл бұрын
Chimps and gorillas are overrated
@guairefernandezamil4084
@guairefernandezamil4084 3 жыл бұрын
They probably didnt chase actual gorrillas, just chimpanzees or other great apes, since the word gorilla originates from this account we dont know what they are actually referencing
@keeshans5768
@keeshans5768 2 жыл бұрын
1 on 1 they wouldn’t stand a chance, but atleast 3 dudes with a spear and some skill with said spear and the gorrilla is done for.
@1770-h2f
@1770-h2f 5 жыл бұрын
I love this channel !!!!!!
@Gjoufi
@Gjoufi 5 жыл бұрын
Never understood the whole alternative/conspiracy history thing the history channel had going on. Looking at the comments; "Oh I guess that there is a huge marked for it then..."
@kpimkpim349
@kpimkpim349 4 жыл бұрын
"How much can I get for this toaster. It's from the 40s"
@vinrusso821
@vinrusso821 4 жыл бұрын
In ancient times Greeks and others called Africa "Libya" and Black Africans "Ethiopians". The term Africa started during the Roman empire named by General Africanus.
@27rasler
@27rasler 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you I really like this channel with very informative history
@watchoutforyourself7710
@watchoutforyourself7710 5 жыл бұрын
Well done. I hope you will do more like this.
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 5 жыл бұрын
Will do! Thanks
@Pseudoluky
@Pseudoluky 5 жыл бұрын
Fucking great channel you have man. I think i binged like half your channel in a week. Really cant critic anything other than keep improving the backround video to the narration.
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MichaelThomasDev
@MichaelThomasDev 5 жыл бұрын
This is all very interesting but I think they are missing a modern interpretation. I can’t understand most of the videos I’ve listened to, but did find some explanations in the comments. Good stuff tho!
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! (I think)
@annemievrints1891
@annemievrints1891 5 жыл бұрын
But not enough explanations,. The mountain of the gods, what it’s name?
@MegaMayday16
@MegaMayday16 Жыл бұрын
Yey they became friends and chilled with people at the lyxos river in south Morocco. I am proud my ancestors were considered cool by the Karthago travelers
@kunatix7033
@kunatix7033 4 ай бұрын
We ichl7ayn are always based😎
@keatonsmith5669
@keatonsmith5669 4 жыл бұрын
Their concept of the world was so mystifying.
@faraonlatino
@faraonlatino 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear exploration accounts from Cushite/Ethiopian/Nubian/Egipcian explorers. At the time of Hano, they would have been competitors of Carthage that were just as advanced if not more. Anyway, thanks for this awesome delivery of history documentation.
@deanfirnatine7814
@deanfirnatine7814 4 жыл бұрын
The Cushite, Ethiopians and Nubians in no way were more advanced than Carthage, that is just re-writing history for PC purposes
@calm123
@calm123 Жыл бұрын
​@@deanfirnatine7814they most definetely were, even before Carthage existed
@cristobalsapiain2709
@cristobalsapiain2709 Жыл бұрын
​@@calm123Ethiopians were advanced at some point of the history but not at the same time as Carthage, they were a typical civilization
@eho6380
@eho6380 11 ай бұрын
Most Axumite and Nubian works were destroyed due to war and political instability, the latter was replaced by later Arab migrants.
@brolickscholar3083
@brolickscholar3083 10 ай бұрын
@@deanfirnatine7814They actually used to sail together… Cushites/Nubians and Phoenicians… It’s very true…. They were all contemporaries. 👍🏽 I can actually show you some very very compelling evidence of them both in Maya/Olmec territory about 500 b.c.
@Insectoid_
@Insectoid_ 5 жыл бұрын
Listen to Hanno the Navigator by Al Stewart
@Puragus
@Puragus 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please do the Qianlong Emperor's letter to George III?
@HistoryandHeadlines
@HistoryandHeadlines 5 жыл бұрын
What if Cathage made it to the Americas?
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 5 жыл бұрын
IMO, if Carthage would have won the Punic Wars (unlikely but at least ponderable), America would have been reached a thousand years earlier. Romans were the most uncurious people one can imagine and also rather mediocre sailors. Almost anyone would have made great discoveries but the Romans and their conservative aristocratic mentality.
@HistoryandHeadlines
@HistoryandHeadlines 5 жыл бұрын
@@LuisAldamiz I wonder how either the Carthaginians and/or Romans would have fared/interacted with the Native Americans?
@adomalyon1
@adomalyon1 5 жыл бұрын
Carthaginians were good traders and sailors but also greedy and decadent. Dunno how long they would have lasted before collapse.
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 5 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryandHeadlines - Carthage? I'd expect them to establish trade posts rather than going all conquistador. As for Romans, you already know it because that's exactly what Castile and Portugal are: direct descendants from Romanity in all but name.
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 5 жыл бұрын
@@adomalyon1 - Carnations? Spellcheck needs to be spellchecked. IMO their empire was solid enough, even if not too innovative in terms military. Otherwise they were not too different from Romans (but much more sea-oriented). A big if is whether a successful Hannibal would have become "emperor" Caesar-style, toppling the "decadent" republic and what effects would it have. Something I'm pretty sure about is that Gaul would have never been conquered by them (what for?) and that would have allowed for a faster Germanic expansion with unpredictable cascading effects.
@tyronechillifoot5573
@tyronechillifoot5573 5 жыл бұрын
The absolute mad lad
@bogdanbogdanoff5164
@bogdanbogdanoff5164 4 жыл бұрын
I told hanno he wouldn't cross the pillars of Hercules. He took the ships and did it, the absolute madman
@darrinmagnus1
@darrinmagnus1 4 жыл бұрын
Long live the Lebanese in our ancestral Levantine homeland, the direct descendants of our Phoenico-Canaanites forebears who founded and peopled the city-state of Carthage.
@genericalfishtycoon3853
@genericalfishtycoon3853 4 жыл бұрын
@@ilyaas01 This is one of those dude who tries to tell you all the real kings and queens of Europe were actually black. Don't even waste your words, these people are touched.
@genericalfishtycoon3853
@genericalfishtycoon3853 4 жыл бұрын
WE WUZ KANGZ N SHEEEE1T DAS RIIIIIIITE
@genericalfishtycoon3853
@genericalfishtycoon3853 4 жыл бұрын
@@ilyaas01 Blacks never did anything but build mudhuts, they certainly didn't sail around the world. lol You're not tell me nothing I don't know my dude.
@genericalfishtycoon3853
@genericalfishtycoon3853 4 жыл бұрын
@jeisa Jeis Das riiiiiiiite!
@nathan_408
@nathan_408 4 жыл бұрын
@@genericalfishtycoon3853 As has already been said, sub-Saharan Africa was away from the civilized world in ancient times(like Europe was for a long time), but everything changed in the Middle Ages, where Africans had contact with Arabs and adopted Islam, forming the great Empire of Mali
@heathenwizard
@heathenwizard 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! When is archaia istoria’s video coming out? I’d love to know more about the Phoenicians in west Africa
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 5 жыл бұрын
Me too! Not sure...
@ArchaiaHistoria
@ArchaiaHistoria 5 жыл бұрын
It’s out now go check it out!
@laminconte1085
@laminconte1085 4 жыл бұрын
WHO LIVED IN THE LAND TODAY CALLED GAMBIA? "But on the last day we came to great wooded mountains ( present day Cape Verde ). The wood of the trees was fragrant, and of various kinds. Sailing around these mountains for two days, we came to an immense opening of the sea, from either side of which there was level ground inland (mouth of modern River Gambia); from which at night we saw fire leaping up on every side at intervals, now greater, now less" (The Periplus of Hanno, 5th Century B.C.) This account shows that people lived here by 400 BC. Both the north and south banks of today's River Gambia were populated. Who were they? Libyans? With stories of sun worshipping in today's Niani, (5000 years) we have to dig deeper than 17 century European explorer accounts. We may find a history never imagined in our wildest dreams. With human footprints on stones, lets close our history books on Bainunka and search for our ANCESTORS. They have been waiting and angry. Bainuk is a recent kingdom and pales in comparison to 400 BC. The Bainunka found people here. I don't know who lived here by 400 B.C. but its worth digging. Our story is likely 5000 years old. SANKOFA
@Eshanas
@Eshanas 4 жыл бұрын
Just Africans. What else would they be? The Bantu came from this area. It's not something peculiar.
@eho6380
@eho6380 11 ай бұрын
Literally a bunch of Bantu people, it ain't special
@lolbenz
@lolbenz 5 жыл бұрын
I always find it hard to follow these journeys on a map
@TRAINAlytics
@TRAINAlytics 3 жыл бұрын
They give the rough locations during the first half of the journey, but after they get to Liberia, the record kind of vanishes.
@EMan-cf8lv
@EMan-cf8lv 4 жыл бұрын
Carthage must’ve been very very wealthy to be able to sail with 30,000 people with provisions and go on adventures and then sail back.
@liam7664
@liam7664 5 жыл бұрын
Would’ve been easier for them if they just used email or fax.
@bramrhodesdouglas5861
@bramrhodesdouglas5861 4 жыл бұрын
Better than history channel
@vishwakat8743
@vishwakat8743 5 жыл бұрын
Nice one. You should do Megasthenes' Indica. There is a treasure trove of ancient description in that book.
@SpencerTaylorOnline
@SpencerTaylorOnline 5 жыл бұрын
I sense a major motion picture coming, replete with the flaying of hairy savages.
@baguazhang2
@baguazhang2 4 жыл бұрын
"Cavement who ran faster than horses". That was shocking to hear.
@soheil527
@soheil527 4 жыл бұрын
several kashmiri and other steppe tribes were reputed to run faster than horses on short sprints upto a few miles
@jurisprudens
@jurisprudens 4 жыл бұрын
There was also something about the Sun moving in the opposite direction, no?
@blackhawk8920
@blackhawk8920 3 жыл бұрын
yes but different Carthage/Egyptian trip.
@spaceslav8954
@spaceslav8954 Жыл бұрын
🎶It's a good day for going to sea, Hanno the navigator said to me🎶
@TheRickfire
@TheRickfire 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@neaion2786
@neaion2786 3 жыл бұрын
This is a question for the students at university on history. How do you manage with such information at your disposal? Are you taking information from these videos or do it the old ways, reading books and all!? I was a student on history in 2006-2008, i quit it after 1 year and i remember being scared for copying other writers because plagiasrism. But today with all this information how you do it?
@stupidbot7447
@stupidbot7447 4 жыл бұрын
imagine how much more we would have learned if romans wouldnt have burnt carthage...
@chizpa305
@chizpa305 3 жыл бұрын
Or if the library of Alixandria wasn't burnt either. Or if all the Mayan literature wasn't burnt either, etc, etc,
@mautrindade
@mautrindade 5 жыл бұрын
Please do the Letter of Pêro Vaz de Caminha en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_P%C3%AAro_Vaz_de_Caminha
@another90daystochangethis34
@another90daystochangethis34 4 жыл бұрын
Libyans = Berbers/Amazigh people, it's the term used by the ancients derived from the names the Egyptians called the people to the west of them.
@anitkumarindiansmasterrace1399
@anitkumarindiansmasterrace1399 4 жыл бұрын
Libya means all Africa in ancient times
@sinan1913
@sinan1913 3 жыл бұрын
A small reminder of a coloutful intriguing past . Lebanese and Tunisian history my habibis .
@georget8008
@georget8008 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the romans burnt carthage to the ground and all the knowledge was lost. Carthagenians lived on the west side of the Mediterranean sea. They travelled in the atlantic ocean. I am sure that many of you have heard the theory that Odessey describes journeys in the Atlantic ocean and the Americas and not in The Mediterranean sea. Some argue that these journeys were made by the carthagenians. The greek found the stories and appropriated them in their culture. Nevertheless we will never know for sure as Carthagene was burnt
@alexanderlittle9786
@alexanderlittle9786 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think your timeline makes sense, honestly. Unless the journey was of a pre-carthaginian odeseus whose ancestors would later settle carthage... which would make them greek, anyways... So, it seems to me that no matter how you cut it, the story was based on greeks and carthage wasnt around for very long by the time the odyssey was written... like 60 years of something. Hanno was way later than homer, and hellenism was beginning to flourish slightly before the founding of carthage.
@vazak11
@vazak11 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating!
@pytheas222
@pytheas222 2 жыл бұрын
"Horn of the West" must be referring Dakar in Senegal, being the western most part of africa that jets out.
@qzh00k
@qzh00k 5 жыл бұрын
Real History is much better than that one book implies. Good share.!
@itsjodiewho
@itsjodiewho 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the people dropped off on islands to start new colonies were volunteers or forced into it. Probably a combination of both.
@polmak1507
@polmak1507 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@cadepope4093
@cadepope4093 3 жыл бұрын
A Carthaginian (probably): "Everything is on fire and burning, including that mountain over there." Me in Antmanean demeanor: "what the hell happened here."
@hxyzazolchak
@hxyzazolchak 5 жыл бұрын
coul you please narrate ibn bttuta's story in the mali?
@MegaMayday16
@MegaMayday16 Жыл бұрын
The image of the pillars (straight of Gibraltar) shows Gibraltar on the left side mom the right side we se the now days Moroccan coast and the Spanish city Ceuta. So the view is actually coming from the Atlantic ocean entering the Mediterranean min 00:50
@JL-tm3rc
@JL-tm3rc Жыл бұрын
the straight of heracles is actually located in the gulf of gabes not gibaltar as described by aristotle ARISTOTLE: De Mundo - 393.a.16 to 393b.4 “Firstly then it is said that the Pillars of Heracles are found embraced on the right as one navigates inwards, to the two types of the so called Syrtes (plural of Syrti), of which the one they call great, whereas the other small; and oppositely on exiting the bay not in the same way (as when entering), are formed (in the region outside the bay) three pelages (seas), the Sardinian and that which is named Galatikon (Gallic) or Adrian and following on from them dissecting them sideways vertically is the Sicilian, after this is the Cretan, and following from this, on the one (side) the Egyptian, the Pamfilian and the Syrian, and on the other the Aegean and the Myrtoan” clearly if it is not the straight of gibaltar because it would be too far off from the three pelages which is still named the same today. the syrtes are located in the gulf of gabes plato used the word atlantic pelagos if he meant the atlantic ocean he would have said atlantic okeanos which was also used by other greek writers at that time. Plato also said nessos which means a peninsula or island (example peloponessian war means war in the peninsula of pelopos) Richat is located on a peninsula because back then when the sahara was a forest there is an inner sea (atlantic pelagos ) in the sahara that exits on the gulf of gabes. after the disaster in atlantis the path to atlantis was blocked by a shoal of mud making it unnavigable on the gulf of gabes meaning it was isolated from the Mediterranean. the remnants of this inner sea is the lake tritonis which eventually dried up. the elevation is also not a problem because to be able to reach an elevation of 400 m you will only need 400 km of navigable waterway. where the gradient of the waterway is 1m is to 1km or 1mm to 10m. Azores is not blocked by a shoal of mud and it is located in an okeanos not a pelagos. the rest of the descriptions of plato perfectly fits in addition as stated in the video libya is located after the pillars of heracles which does not match gibaltar but will match gabes. the only possible large lake that is being described is lake tritonis near gabes For a more detailed discussion you could check george sarantitis (plato project) his interpretation fits everything plato has said
@paraguaymike5159
@paraguaymike5159 5 жыл бұрын
So Carthage was not so barbaric after all. History is written by the victors and Rome defeated and destroyed Carthage. It is a shame that so much history has been lost over time.
@LauftFafa
@LauftFafa 5 жыл бұрын
No one believe that Carthage was barbaric , greeks descriptions show might and discipline and an army that have a unified uniform just like greeks or rome . In fact everyone i know believe that carthage was much more advanced than Rome . Romans didn't even know how to build warships , they stole the design from Carthaginian abondoned ships .
@yamchathewolf7714
@yamchathewolf7714 3 жыл бұрын
In this very account it's described how they skinned women alive for fun. They also sacrificed children to their gods by burning them.
@ryanrobinson5638
@ryanrobinson5638 11 ай бұрын
lotttta people commenting here who either didn't listen until the end, or are uncomfortably chill with some atrocities, ngl
@matthewperry5121
@matthewperry5121 5 жыл бұрын
Great video keep up the fire thanks
@CollinBuckman
@CollinBuckman 5 жыл бұрын
> when the Project Africa intro shows Thomas Sankara but none of the videos on the playlist are about him. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 5 жыл бұрын
Probably wasn't gonna pop up in this video though
@CollinBuckman
@CollinBuckman 5 жыл бұрын
@@VoicesofthePast I know just, in general, none of the videos feature him. Didn't know where best to mention it.
@slowmoed
@slowmoed 4 ай бұрын
Golden Trade of the Moors quotation.
@RussonFilms
@RussonFilms 4 жыл бұрын
History!!
@multivitamin425
@multivitamin425 4 жыл бұрын
you would have thought that there were so few people that most of the world was wilderness, but people were fucking everywhere even then
@greathornedowl1783
@greathornedowl1783 Жыл бұрын
Black people were called Ethiopians in antiquity so that means there were black people in southern Morocco in 500BC, interesting!
@ActualLiteralKyle
@ActualLiteralKyle 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone know if they saw actual gorillas? I never knew Gorillas could throw stones or run fast enough to evade humans chasing them. So maybe they were just some super hairy people?
@nathan_408
@nathan_408 4 жыл бұрын
chimpanzees
@lorenr3276
@lorenr3276 3 жыл бұрын
I think gorillas or maybe chimpanzees throw stones.
@ksanbahlyngwa1998
@ksanbahlyngwa1998 23 күн бұрын
Imagine if Carthage made some colonies along the coast?
@adamgoldenstein1179
@adamgoldenstein1179 4 жыл бұрын
That's the avatar font in the thumbnail, isn't it?
@scojo6377
@scojo6377 2 жыл бұрын
Liberal: "he didnt discover anything, people were already there."
@SuperxDfAb
@SuperxDfAb 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do the requirement the spaniards read to the natives?
@mahalo675
@mahalo675 2 жыл бұрын
3:47 they landed in Guinea/Sierra Leone not Cape Verde those trees he is mentioning are very common there. 4:13 isn’t cape palmas that place is round how would you determine the cape ? It is most likely cape three points in Ghana and the lagoon being the Abi lagoon which dose have islands . Also describes a Tom-Tom ,Bells and the flute common to these people.
@steppedon
@steppedon 2 жыл бұрын
Meh. I'm going to disagree with you. Just compare Hanno's description with the layout of the Cape Verde islands. He reaches one filled with salt (Sal), then another with trees filled with mountains (Boa Vista). He hits an open ocean and eventually it's the mountain of fire (Fogo, which likely drew them there). Just look at most maps from the 1500s or those that predate the Portuguese discovery. Cape Verde is noted as Cerna, Hespirides, Gorgada, and in some interpretations of the timeline, the Fortunate Islands. With the currents as strong as they are...anyone who thinks Hanno went further South than Cape Verde is a fool.
@sonoftheway3528
@sonoftheway3528 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what to think if the women he captured were human or not. African people don't tend to be hairy, which inclines me to think he was referring to chimps or gorillas. Then again, I can't imagine humans actually CATCHING any chimps or gorillas on foot.
@jessejojojohnson
@jessejojojohnson 4 жыл бұрын
0:20 Carthage ordered their king?
@sahloull1
@sahloull1 4 жыл бұрын
Read about carthage and democracy
@forestsoceansmusic
@forestsoceansmusic 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea, and very good narration, but what spoiled it for me were all those generic landscape scenes. Much better if you could have got detailed older maps (older the better, but don't have to be from Hanno's time) and only shown those. That would be much more interesting and informative. From your video I have no idea of far South they got.
@Eshanas
@Eshanas 4 жыл бұрын
But we don't know how far south he got. Sone say Morocco, some say Senegal, some Liberia, some Cameroon.
@pakshirajan8585
@pakshirajan8585 5 жыл бұрын
Please do account of Megasthanes on India
@egyptwasblack2
@egyptwasblack2 6 ай бұрын
2:48 he reached the Richat structure... The city of Atlantis
@spacecasebase
@spacecasebase 2 жыл бұрын
They thought gorillas were people?
@toomanyaccounts
@toomanyaccounts 10 ай бұрын
one of the African names for Gorillas translates as 'People who beat themselves viciously'
@Landrew0
@Landrew0 4 жыл бұрын
Confusing account of "Ethiopians" and sailing east along the coast of Western Africa.
@ogundimu400
@ogundimu400 4 жыл бұрын
Ethiopia was originally a word for black people or the darker peoples south of the Sahara. While north africa was called Libya
@flagearvideo
@flagearvideo 4 жыл бұрын
Charriot of the Gods=Mt. Cameroon
@patrickblanchette4337
@patrickblanchette4337 5 жыл бұрын
5:57 So they got as far as modern day Liberia?
@TomLuTon
@TomLuTon 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly where is up to debate. Some say he never got farther than southern Morocco, others say he made it all the way to Cameroon. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanno_the_Navigator
@emilnarud5955
@emilnarud5955 3 жыл бұрын
What is the normal spelling for the guides he refers to, Lyksites?
@guyranting
@guyranting 4 жыл бұрын
Man, shit really escalated at the end didnt it
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